building-and-recc-chat

[solid rivet]

250$$ for rgb haha

[strong knoll]

The attic freezer is nice that’s what I’m gonna get if I can’t the the aio

[strong knoll]

Temps as well

[ripe wedge]

z63/z73 doesnt even come with rgb fans

sadly

arctic freezer II is amazing

[hollow grail]

qlc

[ripe wedge]

yeah QLC is oof right?

lol

[solid rivet]

I’m going to stress noctua over aio and take the money saved and do 32 gig ram

[hollow grail]

yeah qlc cring

[ripe wedge]

TLC is way better than QLC?

[hollow grail]

yea

[ripe wedge]

mmm k well good thing I didnt buy it

lol

[hollow grail]

lol

2tb sn750 time

or mp34

or uhh

pilot e

[ripe wedge]

yea mushkin one looks fine

kinda wanted a gen 4 tho but gen 3 is fine

[hollow grail]

i mean gen4 kinda dumb

cause often the random perf is worse

id say p31 gold but

[ripe wedge]

yea rn but I have a gen 4 capable mobo

[hollow grail]

u want 2tb

[ripe wedge]

yeah

[solid rivet]

I wouldn’t scare you away but I would say if you go gen 4 I would think it would age better

[ripe wedge]

2tb sn850/ 980 pro would be too much lol

probably

[hollow grail]

and i mean theres also the corsair 600 or whatever

[ripe wedge]

mp600

ye

[strong knoll]

Nvm the sk Hynix suggestion wasn’t from mr111 it was from Lili lol

[ripe wedge]

big ol thicc heatsinc

[ripe wedge]

think I saw mr1111 talking about that m.2 earlier tho

[hollow grail]

its a banger drive

but im the hdd person mostly

[ripe wedge]

yeah after doing some research it looks fine

[hollow grail]

the p31 gold is the best ssd

rn

for consumer use

[strong knoll]

I looked back in the message and it was lili who suggested it lol

[ripe wedge]

o

[solid rivet]

M.2 guy here

Lol

[hollow grail]

claps a lot of gen4 drives

[solid rivet]

Once you taste champagne you never want beer

[strong knoll]

Saving 10 bucks from it too lmao

[hollow grail]

m.2 cringe asf

[solid rivet]

But like I said gen 3 and gen 4 really are the same

[hollow grail]

not at all

[ripe wedge]

smh newegg what is this.... not the p31 im looking for

[hollow grail]

sequential wise

[solid rivet]

I personally like the freed up space and not having sata cables

[hollow grail]

u.2 masterrace

[solid rivet]

That’s fine hah

[ripe wedge]

usb 2.0 master race

[hollow grail]

[solid rivet]

I know nothing on this

[ripe wedge]

oof

[solid rivet]

You mistyped 750

[ripe wedge]

nah I was looking at the 850

[solid rivet]

If you have it spend it but it’s 500 after tax I’d assume

That price is cringe haha

[ripe wedge]

nah

waste of $

lol

[solid rivet]

Yea I agree

I mean I spent 300 on 2tb but 500 is painful

[ripe wedge]

@hollow grail the mushkins one is the lowest price ive seen it I think

i think imma wait awhile. im sure the prices for gen 3 will drop down a bit soon

[strong knoll]

Welp if my pc list is good than that’s what I’m going with

Thanks @solid rivet @ripe wedge

[ripe wedge]

yeah its not bad

np

[solid rivet]

I like it! My only suggestion is noctua!

[ripe wedge]

i sleep

[solid rivet]

Tech is not cheap these days!

[ripe wedge]

yeah lol

[strong knoll]

Me like 250 AIO lol

[ripe wedge]

me sitting over here with my $850 gpu

lol

and my $300 cooler

[strong knoll]

What about the uni fans, why does everyone want those??

[hollow grail]

me sitting over here with my 40k of enterprise hardware

[strong knoll]

And the LIAN li

[ripe wedge]

lol lili with the biggest flex

[solid rivet]

750$ gpu and 410$ for 2.5 to m.2

[ripe wedge]

pulls out the google server

[hollow grail]

lul

i love my google server

its so cute tbh

[ripe wedge]

it is amazing

[strong knoll]

Got my cyber prebuilt so y’all can’t compete

[ripe wedge]

I shoulda bought the google server on ebay when I saw it

it was hecka cheap

[hollow grail]

and sent it to me

[ripe wedge]

lol

[hollow grail]

dewit

[ripe wedge]

[hollow grail]

ehh not bad not good tbh

how much are the normal r720xds

[ripe wedge]

$17

[hollow grail]

pog

[solid rivet]

Why a server

[hollow grail]

why not

[ripe wedge]

cuz servers are pog

[solid rivet]

I’m uneducated

[hollow grail]

i have several

[solid rivet]

What do they do

[ripe wedge]

found a better one for cheap

[hollow grail]

run some services

[ripe wedge]

but not google so not cool

[hollow grail]

true

i also have a cisco one

looks super rad

[ripe wedge]

o whats it look like

[ripe wedge]

interesting

[hollow grail]

its only an r710 tho

[ripe wedge]

reminds me of the stripes on a sn750

heatsink

[hollow grail]

huge fan of the uhhh

HPE one they did

at least i think its HPE

[ripe wedge]

looks like a air conditioner unit

[ripe wedge]

$19k...

hmm bios locked lol

I feel like this might be a common thing with buying used servers

[strong knoll]

Ok me sleep night

[hollow grail]

just google ones

i just reflashed

[ripe wedge]

ah

guessing you pulled out the cmos battery

or something

[desert gulch]

Jake how late is it over there?

Lol

[ripe wedge]

4 am almost

[desert gulch]

Oof

[ripe wedge]

im going to bed lol. ive been looking at servers

[desert gulch]

Lol pulled an all nighter finals week. Never again

[ripe wedge]

longest ive stayed up was 34 hours

[desert gulch]

Fell asleep during my 2pm class

[ripe wedge]

or something

[desert gulch]

I think I've done 24 ish

[hollow grail]

this is a massive load for this system lol

[little osprey]

Xeon 🤔

I had PC with xeon CPUs it was perfectly stable

[lone trellis]

can i see a good streaming build for under 1k

[hoary warren]

wait so i dont really know a lot about cpu's i know what a core is but whats a thread

[gusty pasture]

a threadi s a virtual core

i think

yep its a virtual core

[pine fulcrum]

"A thread is a virtual version of a CPU core. To create a thread, Intel CPUs uses hyper-threading, and AMD CPUs uses simultaneous multithreading, or SMT for short (they’re the same thing). These are both names for the process of breaking up physical cores into virtual cores (threads) to increase performance."
- Tom's Hardware

[hoary warren]

ah ok thanks

[uncut pelican]

You want me to get you a list?

[pine fulcrum]

Basically, it is a virtual version of a core and a single core contains 2 threads

[uncut pelican]

I would like to rip my threads

but I dont want to spend 3k

[pine fulcrum]

👀

Lmao

I get you

[uncut pelican]

threadripper would do me no good

I dont need all the power

[pine fulcrum]

A 5900x can do more than any jobs for he average editor

Yeah

[uncut pelican]

ya see I dont even edit lol

I cant even stream

[pine fulcrum]

Why

Why not?

You have a 3070 and a 3700x

[uncut pelican]

obs makes no sense

[pine fulcrum]

Yes true

[uncut pelican]

oh yeah hardware wise im fine

[pine fulcrum]

I've tried it, it sucks

[uncut pelican]

but im not a software person

[pine fulcrum]

Same

I am always geeky about software but OBS is too much for me

[uncut pelican]

I could do custom water cooling but i dont understand obs

[pine fulcrum]

I'm overwhelmed by it

[pine fulcrum]

Same lol

[uncut pelican]

what other streaming softwares are there

[pine fulcrum]

Ummm

I'm not sure

But OBS is still the best

[uncut pelican]

another issue is that geforce experience records my second monitor instead of my main monitor

[uncut pelican]

mhm just gotta find out how to use it lol

[pine fulcrum]

You can surely fix it

[uncut pelican]

Ive tried everything ik lol

[pine fulcrum]

Hmm

[uncut pelican]

in os settings and control panel

[pine fulcrum]

Nvidia control panel sucks too

Not too user friendly

[uncut pelican]

they should make it more user friendly

[pine fulcrum]

Yea

[uncut pelican]

it makes enough sense

[pine fulcrum]

Yeah it does

But for someone that just knows that they have a good pc but nothing else, they wouldn't know a thing about what's there to change on the Nvidia control panel

[uncut pelican]

yeah

but with the recording issue, my guess is its a 30 series bug or smth

[pine fulcrum]

Hmm

[uncut pelican]

because i believe others have had the issue with 30 series cards but not others

but its been a while

[pine fulcrum]

I use bandicam to record lol

[uncut pelican]

should be fixed or smth

[pine fulcrum]

Idc what people say

[uncut pelican]

i tried using obs to record

[pine fulcrum]

It works

[uncut pelican]

lmao

ill brb

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican Nvidia experience does have a thing with having to detect the game before it starts recording unless you have the desktop capture turned on

[uncut pelican]

One sec I need to take all this in

aight that may be helpful

tyty

[stoic island]

Like some games that's not in Nvidia experience it just refuses to record

like From the Depths

I have to turn desktop capture on to record

[uncut pelican]

where is the desktop capture?

sorry noob here

[stoic island]

It's in privacy

[uncut pelican]

aight

but the issue is that it records my screen, just not the right one

[patent ocean]

@minor sluice what fans do you got? They look sweet!

[gleaming quartz]

what are your guy's opinions on razer cortex?

i know i should probably asking this in #windows-ios but i also know more people are active in this chat so idk

[earnest ravine]

good?

@stoic island

[gleaming quartz]

what website/software is that?

[earnest ravine]

https://buildredux.com/pages/build-your-pc

[gleaming quartz]

are you getting it built for you?

[earnest ravine]

ye

but im might go with a 3060 ti because its cheaper

[gleaming quartz]

alright

[earnest ravine]

idk tbh

[gleaming quartz]

i would probably just spend an extra 100 for the 3070 though just for the difference in performance alone

[stoic island]

decent

[earnest ravine]

is it future proof?

ik i will have to upgrade the cpu

but other than that is it?

[gleaming quartz]

that looks good ig

but why do you need a wifi antenna?

imo i think its a waste of pcie space

but thats just my opinion obviously

[tight sorrel]

rather save on the PSU. 850W is too much. you can use a 650W

[gleaming quartz]

oh yeah true

[gusty pasture]

ayone konw anyhting about cpu coolers???

[tight sorrel]

also, why get such a CPU cooler for 10400? Like buying ultra performance tyres for a tricycle.

[earnest ravine]

i cant change the psu

[tight sorrel]

the 10400 comes with a stock cooler thats just fine

[earnest ravine]

i will prob change that myself

nvm

its aio

[stoic island]

it'll do

[tight sorrel]

The PSU and CPU cooler are my only criticisms of the build. rest is on point

[earnest ravine]

the cpu cooler is an aio

CM MasterLiquid ML240L + MasterFans

[tight sorrel]

yes, but its overkill for that CPU

[earnest ravine]

true

i cant change the cooler

[tight sorrel]

instead of downgrading the GPU to save a few bucks, rather get rid of that

[tight sorrel]

oh damn

[earnest ravine]

yea

[stoic island]

It'll do

not much you can do to get a cheaper decent prebuilt w 3070

[earnest ravine]

idk i still kinda want to get the nzxt starter pro

[stoic island]

no

don't

[earnest ravine]

its not like i will be doing any over clocking

[stoic island]

definitely this over that

[earnest ravine]

its cheaper

[stoic island]

it's a 3070

which is much better than 5700xt in pure raster, rtx, features, etc

[earnest ravine]

1576 in total including shipping

i didn't want to spend that much

but ig

[stoic island]

if you can afford it, I'd do it

[earnest ravine]

alr

i just wanted somthing that could last

like a decent amount of time

but im still going to upgrade the cpu

[little osprey]

Is there a queue for AMD's new CPU's?

like the 5900x

[earnest ravine]

ik the 5600x is instock on amazon

[little osprey]

Yeah

I've been trying to get the 5900x though

[earnest ravine]

its 379 right now

[little osprey]

not the 5990x

[earnest ravine]

the 5600x

idk about the 5900x

[little osprey]

i do

it's out of stock

:\

stupid scalpers

[earnest ravine]

@stoic island they are 155 dollars over msrp for the 3070

[stoic island]

not really

[earnest ravine]

yea scaplers suck

[stoic island]

more like 55 over

since tariffs

[earnest ravine]

the 3070 is 499

fe

[stoic island]

tariffs

I haven't seen a 3070 recently sold at <600$ for restocks

[earnest ravine]

best buy

and ebay

[twilit salmon]

Can someone give me their opinion on this build? I’m going to be adding more storage later on

[stoic island]

most recent restocks for example:

[tight sorrel]

get 3600Mhz RAM. rest is power!

[twilit salmon]

Alright thanks

[earnest ravine]

i was kidding about ebay

[stoic island]

@twilit salmon Use pcpartpicker plz

[earnest ravine]

yea

[twilit salmon]

Alright

Was originally going to get a laptop since I don’t have much room but figured I’d build a desk over my bed or something to use it as I don’t have room anywhere else lol

[earnest ravine]

well on hotstock its showed up as 499

[stoic island]

haven't seen it for 500$ in forever

there's like 620$

[earnest ravine]

never have i

i cant spell

neither have i

[gleaming quartz]

i wish i could have gotten mine for 500

tbh if the oc 3080 was at stock price i would have gotten that right away rather than the 3070 just because of how much i payed for it

[twilit salmon]

With pcpartpicker I don’t see the case I’m getting is it possible to add that in?

[earnest ravine]

yea

all you need is the link and just put custom part

[twilit salmon]

Alright

[stoic island]

could also go for dif case

like nr200p

[gleaming quartz]

maybe it goes by multiple names but only shows one?

that happened with my case

[twilit salmon]

No I searched for the company specifically even and didn’t even see a mini-ITX case listed

[stoic island]

or it could be incompatible

like if your PSU is atx and the case only takes sfx PSUs

[twilit salmon]

I’ll check that then

[stoic island]

un check the "compatible parts" on the top left

[twilit salmon]

I thought I read it said it supported ATX though...

[stoic island]

and check if you can find the case

[twilit salmon]

Alright

[stoic island]

You could also change case, or add custom part

[twilit salmon]

I looked it up without it being there it doesn’t show so I’ll add it as a custom part

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzNcj2
thoughts ?

[twilit salmon]

Just checked anyways the PSU is 40mm too big...

[stoic island]

@little osprey gpu price is gonna go up

I'd change ssd and ram

helix-l or mp34

and 3600c16 ballistix was in stock for 80$ not too long ago

[little osprey]

yea should prob change to 750

[little osprey]

muh micron rev e i can always just oc it

thats what am planning to do anyways

[stoic island]

I mean

[little osprey]

not some hardcore oc so dont need b die

[stoic island]

3600c16 is gonna be better bin

and ballistix 3200c16 has a lower chance of rev e

it can be some other stuff

[little osprey]

thonk

and as for ssd im sure ill be fine with sn550 right ?

[stoic island]

I don't like it

[little osprey]

dont need smth as high end as helix-l pilot e or wtv

[stoic island]

MP34 is just like 3$ more

it's just

so close in terms of price

why not

[little osprey]

mp34 performs faster than sn550 ?

[stoic island]

much faster seq wise

[little osprey]

what abt rando ?

[stoic island]

too lazy to look up testing, most likely

it's e12 with dram against what, 2262 with hmb?

[little osprey]

iirc yea

[stoic island]

I know it's hmb

not sure controller

[little osprey]

is e12 slc or tlc ?

[little osprey]

sn550 use proprietary act

so proprietary controllers with hmb against e12 with dram

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys just wondering if I buy an aio will I have to replace the liquid

[little osprey]

replace the liquid?

aios are closed looped so you wont be able to alter the liquid inside. (with some exceptions of course)

[wicked frigate]

Wait if I buy an aio what do I have to worry about

Like will the pipes freeze or

[twilit salmon]

What’s a PS2 PSU?

PS2 ATX i mean

[little osprey]

@wicked frigate only really worry abt pump dying/leaking

but if u get a solid pump design u should be fine

[wicked frigate]

Like which one

[little osprey]

whats your budget?

and first of all u should be asking urself if u really need an aio

[wicked frigate]

I mean I think I do

[little osprey]

what cpu ?

[wicked frigate]

5900x

Is that the best for gaming and streaming

[little osprey]

for gaming and streaming u should just save ur money and go 5600x

for the streaming end just use nvenc encoder

[worn wave]

Its not the best really but 5600X is better for saving money.

You don't need the best CPU for gaming.

[wicked frigate]

But I think 5900x is the best

I want an 5900x

I will do 3D things

[worn wave]

You will be doing CAD?

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[worn wave]

Which CAD application

[wicked frigate]

Idk yet

Do I guys know what’s the best for gaming

U*

[worn wave]

Best CPU for gaming would be 5950X but its not worth your money, you are better getting something lower so you can save money for other parts

[wicked frigate]

Yah ok

[worn wave]

Because you really don't need a 5950X

[fossil halo]

bro just get a pentium 3

best gaming cpu

[wicked frigate]

I will get 5900x

What’s that @fossil halo

Show pic

[fossil halo]

pentium 3 is the fastest gaming cpu on the market

[wicked frigate]

Show me a pic

[worn wave]

google

[muted patio]

They're trolling, don't waste your time

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[worn wave]

i am not trolling

[fossil halo]

single core cpu with max clock speed of 1.4 ghz

lmfao ofc the r9 5950x is fastest

[worn wave]

I am just trying to help him save money, when in reality he does not need a 5950X or a 5900X

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[muted patio]

Not you, Pentium 3

[fossil halo]

if u want the fastest of the fastest

tbh wait for 11th gen intel

apparently its like hella good

[worn wave]

If you want to waste your money on a specific part in your system, go ahead.

[wicked frigate]

I like Eysenck

[fossil halo]

ah yes

[wicked frigate]

Ryzen

[fossil halo]

then again

[wicked frigate]

??

[fossil halo]

unless you want to launch a rocket from ur system u dont need more than a 5800x at max

if ur only gonna be gaming why waste money on the cpu

[wicked frigate]

What do I mean launch rocket

[fossil halo]

cpu not too important when gaming

[worn wave]

The best CPU for CAD really depends on the application

[wicked frigate]

Bro it’s not for only gaming

[muted patio]

For 3d modeling a 5900x is fine.

[worn wave]

Depends on the 3d application

[fossil halo]

CAD depends more on gpu?

[worn wave]

no

Again, it all depends on the application

[wicked frigate]

I am getting an 3090

3080

I meant

[fossil halo]

ok bro do u have a budget in mind

[worn wave]

For example Solidworks will run way better on a Intel CPU than AMD because of the better single core scores

[fossil halo]

i dont undrstand didnt u come here a bit back saying u needed an aio

why do u need an aio for a cpu u havent even bought

[little osprey]

@muted patio heyo can i get ur opinion on smth
comparing sn550 (55 usd) to a mp34 (59 usd)
do u think it's worth the extra 4 usd for an mp34?
iirc sn550 uses wd proprietary controllers and is an hmb drive, comapred to the phison e12 dram drive of the mp34
any input ?

[worn wave]

Before building a system make sure you have a budget and know what specific applications you will be using.

[fossil halo]

^^^^^^^

[worn wave]

Especially for CAD since different applications run differently on different CPUs.

[wicked frigate]

Ok I’ll be back later I gtg cya thx

[fossil halo]

bro i dont understand this dude

came in here like a couple weeks back asking what aio to get

[muted patio]

MP 34 is way faster for another $4. Why wouldnt you?

[worn wave]

If you are only gaming there rarely are a huge difference in loading times.

[little osprey]

plus that sweet 512GB
thanks for the input ^^

[little osprey]

DRAM SSD > DRAMLess SSD

[weak glacier]

Ok I'm going to start from square 1 today with the ram:
3200 LPX ram, same model as what is in my PC already.
Install them, set XMP to 3200, boot into windows, and the MHz shown in windows is only 1060

Is that how it's supposed to be?

[muted patio]

Yo mean 1600?

[weak glacier]

1067*

No it's showing as that ^

[muted patio]

That's 2133, means XMP didn't stick

You have 4 sticks total now?

[weak glacier]

Yes

[muted patio]

When's the last time you updated BIOS?

[weak glacier]

Yesterday

[muted patio]

Is it a BETA bios?

[weak glacier]

I got the latest stable update

So I don't believe it to be that

[muted patio]

Back to BIOS and are there 1 or 2 XMP profiles?

And it's the EXACT same model ram?

Same part number?

[weak glacier]

There's 1 for like 2900

And the second, for 3200, which is what I set

[muted patio]

what board?

[weak glacier]

Yeah, same exact

MSI b450m pro vdh max

[muted patio]

what CPU?

[weak glacier]

Ryzen 5 2600

[muted patio]

So Pinnacle ridge

[weak glacier]

Yeah

[little osprey]

hmb has entered the chat

[weak glacier]

Tempted to just return at this point

[muted patio]

HMB still slows down under sustained writes though

[little osprey]

i feel like its still suitable for average consumer use

[muted patio]

It depends

[fossil halo]

how often should i update bios

[muted patio]

For gamers, it's fine

For someone doing photo/video editing, probs not

due to writes

[little osprey]

mhm

as everything in pc building, it depends

[fossil halo]

vintage sir

[muted patio]

Yes

[weak glacier]

Say theoretically I set it to like 2900 and it worked

[muted patio]

I'm reading

[weak glacier]

That'd be 1450mhz or so

[muted patio]

SOme B450 boards limit ram speed with Pinnacle Rdige

[fossil halo]

wait @weak glacier where are u looking at the memory speed

[weak glacier]

Is that gonna be a good upgrade vs two sticks with 1600 still?

[fossil halo]

in windows

[weak glacier]

HWinfo/cpuinfo wherever I'm feeling spicy at the windows reboot

[muted patio]

XMP isn't sticking

[little osprey]

which kit ?

[fossil halo]

wait that only shows

for one stick

[little osprey]

it could just be a salty bin

[muted patio]

Eh

[weak glacier]

Vengeance LPX 3200

[little osprey]

yep

[muted patio]

I think it's B450 and pinnacle ridge TBH

[little osprey]

the classic vengeance and ryzen

[weak glacier]

Things people don't tell ya when you build PC's

[fossil halo]

it shows as 1600 mhz bc thats for one stick

my ram is running at 3200 mhz

[muted patio]

It shows 1067

2133

[little osprey]

yea its called double data rate for a reason kek

[fossil halo]

oh

[muted patio]

not 1600

[weak glacier]

I get by fine with 16 but 32 would've been neat for my purposes

[fossil halo]

mb

thats rouch

i mean

have u tried the blunt intrument troubleshooting methods

[muted patio]

Set it to 2933 and see if it sticks

[fossil halo]

"reseat ram, clear cmos, turn it off turn it on again type thing"

that is the best troubleshooting method prove me wrong

[muted patio]

Lemme grab a manual

brb

I forget that B450 reduces speed with 4 sticks sometimes

[fossil halo]

woah 4x4 ram?\

or 4x8

[weak glacier]

4x8

[fossil halo]

they should make 4x4

2 dimms looks so cringe

i want all 4 dimms

but im too broke for 32 gb 🤣

[weak glacier]

One day I'll just get two 16 sticks

[muted patio]

OK, that manual is useless

[fossil halo]

LOL

[weak glacier]

But then the other ram would be useless

So once it dies or something lol

[fossil halo]

bro just download ram

[little osprey]

lol

[fossil halo]

i downloaded 1 petabyte of ram

downloadmoreram.com

[little osprey]

careful

u could get in trouble wit the moddos

[weak glacier]

XMP didn't stick with 2933

Oof

[little osprey]

your mobo dont support 1 tb ram lol 😂😂

[little osprey]

lpx moment

[fossil halo]

bro i got b690 am7 motherboard

[weak glacier]

Is it about time to drive back to Best buy?

[fossil halo]

ryzen 14 6900xt+

[fossil halo]

yessir

wow is vengeance actually that bad tho

like my friend also having issues with vengeance

[weak glacier]

Apparently

[fossil halo]

i didnt get vengeance bc it was too expensive

[weak glacier]

My original set has never had a single issue

[fossil halo]

i got some team tforce delta thing

[little osprey]

yea they mess with different dies and usually have problems with xmp on ryzen

[fossil halo]

got it bc of r g b

[weak glacier]

I paid like 62 for the pair when I first built it

[fossil halo]

ram is so expensive now tho

holy cow

[little osprey]

I have hyperx rams ofc no issue

[weak glacier]

Yeah $30 markup yesterday

[fossil halo]

i got my ram for like 80$ now its 90$

[weak glacier]

Paid 90 with tax

[fossil halo]

wow

[little osprey]

there usually good deals on newegg for rams

[fossil halo]

idk i just wanna fill out all 4 dimms

but 32 gb too expensive and dummy rams LMFAO

so yea

[little osprey]

i got crucial Ballistix RGB 16gb 3200 for 65$ on newegg on sale

[fossil halo]

im stuck with

wow

thats pretty good

[little osprey]

yeah

[weak glacier]

Now I need something else to spend my money on

[muted patio]

Try this just for grins and giggles

[weak glacier]

I'll just buy a really overpriced Samsung SSD

[muted patio]

The different kits you bought can you tell the difference?

[fossil halo]

i got my

[little osprey]

check newegg deals there having good deals sometimes

[fossil halo]

i have this thing

[muted patio]

keep the kits side by side so they're in the same channel

[weak glacier]

They're the same model number

[fossil halo]

try only using one

[muted patio]

Despite the same kit

[fossil halo]

to see if its only one ram stick thats bad

[muted patio]

They may have different ram modules in them

[weak glacier]

Yeah tbh I'm just gonna go return em

Will find other ways to do what I need to do

[fossil halo]

lmfao i was considering vengeancebut ima stay away LOL

dude

joe

this chinese brand on amazon

called oloy

[weak glacier]

They're fine if you don't want to run 2 kits together

[muted patio]

It seems like with 4 sticks, B450 boards don't like to go past 2933

and 2600 CPu's

[fossil halo]

oh

so its a motherboard bottleneck

[weak glacier]

Like as I said, the pair I've had since building the PC

[fossil halo]

not the ram just being bad

[next kestrel]

what

[weak glacier]

It's perfectly fine

[muted patio]

It's picky

[fossil halo]

meep can u sell me ur 1080 pls

[uncut pelican]

Sup

[weak glacier]

Ram just in general doesn't work well when combining kits so it's really the fault of several things

[next kestrel]

my 2600x and B450m pro can support 4 stick 3000mhz

[fossil halo]

i can sell u my gt 710 its a very good gpu

[next kestrel]

the XMP for 3200 doesnt work so i had to manual timings for 3000CL15

[fossil halo]

tbh i didnt notice the difference between 2666 and 3200

[next kestrel]

in games like overwatch, pubg, or fortnite

it really helps with 1% lows

and frame drops

[fossil halo]

when ur running a gt 710

the frames dont exist to drop

30 fps csgo 🤟

[muted patio]

Joe wait

You said CPU-Z said 1067?

[weak glacier]

Correct

[muted patio]

What about Task Manager?

It should show the proper speed

Like, mine says 3600

as it should

You might be reading the JEDEC section of CPU-Z?

[solid rivet]

I have oloy I have two 16 gig stix and I’m oc at 3600 ghz

[muted patio]

yeah, OK

NO good

[weak glacier]

Alright

[lone trellis]

guys a 1650 super 4gb i know it needs the 6 pin adaptor but what psu does it need im trying to upgrade my dell optiplex 9020

[muted patio]

400-450W

[solid rivet]

This is two 16 gig oloy sticks. They run great.

[muted patio]

Oloy is fine if you don't want to overclock. Their customer service lacks tho

[lone trellis]

ok thanks

[muted patio]

Another cheap brand is Silicon Power

That also works well

[weak glacier]

My first SSD was for my laptop and was a silicon power

[little osprey]

im royal to hyperx about rams xd

[lone trellis]

ok thank you so much

[solid rivet]

But they are OC and I have never had an issue

[weak glacier]

Works pretty well still

[muted patio]

Not XMP oc

Above XMP

[solid rivet]

Is it a big difference between xmp.

It’s running the oc speed and it holds it

[muted patio]

Right, it's rated XMP is 3600

Or DOCP depending on motherboard

[solid rivet]

DOCP on my asus x570

[ornate solstice]

Which is better?

[stoic island]

top

[solid rivet]

Walmart

[stoic island]

1650 super over rx 560

Just keep in mind walmart pc quality is trash

[ornate solstice]

Can you guys find me a prebuilt price range is $500-600

[solid rivet]

Deja vu

Your honestly only going to get poopoo with that price 😔 if you get good gpu most likely get trash case and or motherboard and vice versa

[stoic island]

walmart is just

hotglued usb connectors kind of bad

[ornate solstice]

This will be friends first pc he just wants one and his parents finally agreed to buying him one

[solid rivet]

My advice. Look for a dell optiplex pre built with a decent cpu and ram

Then search for a 1650 lp

[ornate solstice]

Ok thank you

[stoic island]

1650 stock situation crap tho

[solid rivet]

You can get a decent optiplex for 200 bucks and it’ll come with everything

All gpu is crap

[stoic island]

and also, I suggest grabbing an ssd on top of the optiplex

[solid rivet]

I’m just saying for the price and depending on how bad you want it. Dell optiplex build is great first purchase and easy to upgrade ram kits and gpu if you ever find one

[stoic island]

optiplex build is just harder today with 1650 lp and like 1050ti lp and such being out of stock/high asf price

[lone trellis]

or i might just get a new system

what do you guys think

upgrade or get a new pc

[solid rivet]

Console

[lone trellis]

never tried it and never will get one

[stoic island]

pc ftw

[solid rivet]

If your not willing to drop 1200-1800 on a prebuilt then go console

[stoic island]

ok

[lone trellis]

im trying to get the parts to build myself

[solid rivet]

in that case buy a cheap prebuilt with a good gpu in it then sell the rest of the crap parts and use the gpu and money to build one custom

[little osprey]

LOL

Good luck then

Your not going to find parts right now for GPU's

Even turing is overpriced

unless you get super lucky locally

[solid rivet]

i got my asus duel oc 3070 for 750 on fb market i supported the scalper

[little osprey]

STONKS

[stoic island]

tbh nowadays there are pretty decent prebuilts

[little osprey]

...

Oof

Imagine paying 750 for a 3070

[stoic island]

imagine 750$ being msrp for some 3070s

wait

[little osprey]

^

I got mine before tariffs

Lol

[solid rivet]

your that guy lol

[stoic island]

MSI suprim is just stupid

[little osprey]

LOL

[stoic island]

it's like ~750$ for a new 3070

[little osprey]

MSI suprim is

646 on mine.

Only due to sales tax

This happened earlier

my friend just asked if 3200mhz cl16 and 3600mhz cl16 make a big difference in Gaming for Intel

What do I do?

[muted patio]

It can yes

[little osprey]

even 3200 CL16 is good

[muted patio]

Depending on the game

[little osprey]

But yeah it does

Like racer said

[hollow lily]

i agree

[muted patio]

For AMD, yes. For Intel, not so much

[little osprey]

It will not always show marginal benefitw

Benefits*

Guys help!

What do I do

That means you will not notice the difference in Gameplay?

[fossil halo]

ikr these dudes thought i was trolling for some reason

[muted patio]

I helped yesterday. I said to roll back video card drivers

[little osprey]

Why do you have a picture on BSOD?

[little osprey]

Didn’t work

[fossil halo]

for intel no

you will get +0.0069 more frames

[little osprey]

I’ve tried several different methods and it’s still not working

[fossil halo]

intel doesnt really benefit from faster ram the way that ryzen does

[little osprey]

@fossil halo Thanks bro

[little osprey]

Did you DDU the drivers.

[fossil halo]

np

[hollow lily]

ikr what losers if they dont think pentium 3 is the fastest

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009LZ1RM/ref=olp_aod_redir#aod

[little osprey]

Yeah

[hollow lily]

its so expensive also

[muted patio]

What did the BSOD error say?

[fossil halo]

ikrr

[hollow lily]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009LZ1RM/ref=olp_aod_redir#aod

its very expensive

its almost 5k

[fossil halo]

@little osprey zoom in the picture

to see the error message

[little osprey]

System service expection

[hollow lily]

its worth the price though

[fossil halo]

google

google it

[hollow lily]

for a 7ghz cpu

[little osprey]

[little osprey]

Win32kbase

[fossil halo]

google search

google search

google will hold the answers

[little osprey]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware-winpc/bsod-systemserviceexception-win32kbasesys/1de149cd-2c4b-4a98-8af3-0553624e61e4

Corrupt system

also how do you have a picture on BSOd

I’ll just get a new pc

...

sorry but part shortage.

Get a ZOTAC

In my area I can order parts and get them in less than a week

[fossil halo]

yo bro run a r7 3700x and a gt 710 like me

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-gif-18685895

[muted patio]

If this is a new build

Just fresh install Windows

[fossil halo]

bro what area i want to go to this area

[little osprey]

Yeah\

just boot through usb on bios

[little osprey]

Colorado

and open "WINDOWS MEDIA CREATION TOOL"

What parts though

Pascal?

I’ll do a fresh installation of windows

Ampere?

Turing?

[solid rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iC-Qkm186A&list=WL&index=12

[fossil halo]

that actually makes sernse

i think theres a micro center in denver right

[little osprey]

Yep

[fossil halo]

and like thers like 4 people in the whole state of colorado

so thats free stock

wow

[muted patio]

New parts won't help with a corrupt OS lol

[hollow lily]

lol so trash i run a xeon gold cpu with a hd2400

[muted patio]

Just reinstall Windows

[fossil halo]

here we have 40 million people and 1 micro center

[fossil halo]

LOL

[hollow lily]

XD

[solid rivet]

i live in new york state and the olny microceners are in nyc

[fossil halo]

lmfao

thats rough

[little osprey]

^

The parts that I use is an i5-10600k, 1660 ti, msi z490, 16 gb of 3000 MHz ddr4,

[fossil halo]

yea

[little osprey]

Just run a 3700x and a 3070 like me

[fossil halo]

reinstall probably ur best bet

[little osprey]

K

with 3600 C18 ram overclocked to 3773CL18=faster than 3200 CL16

[muted patio]

Yeah, I'd just fresh install then get all the drivers from the motherboard site

[little osprey]

But not faster than 3600C16

[muted patio]

And then nVidia

[hollow lily]

https://www.amazon.com/0FM351-Dell-Radeon-Hd2400-Graphics/dp/B00I3FGM6U

[fossil halo]

imagine actually getting 3070 stock no kizzy

[hollow lily]

its also 10k

[solid rivet]

THIS IS WHY U DONT TAKE SHORT CUTS WHEN BUILDING

[little osprey]

Imagine not having a 3070 in stock at newegg in LA

I’ve been super angry lately cause I saved up money for 3 years just to build a pc with a BSOD error

[solid rivet]

clean install windows and run DDU when installing gpu

[fossil halo]

imagine

[hollow lily]

and hits a 10ghz boost clock and has 200gb of vram

[fossil halo]

dude bro

[hollow lily]

?

[fossil halo]

this is my gpu

rtx 6090

[little osprey]

[fossil halo]

imagine actually getting an rtx 3070 for msrp

[little osprey]

LUL

[fossil halo]

but back to my rtx 6090

[muted patio]

I did

$559

[little osprey]

^

[fossil halo]

it has 420 tb of vram

[muted patio]

XC3 Ultra

[little osprey]

It was ez

before tariffs

[fossil halo]

lmfao

[muted patio]

EZ?

[little osprey]

lul

[fossil halo]

yea

[muted patio]

Took 1.5 months

of hunting

[little osprey]

For me it took 1 week

[fossil halo]

MF REALLY SAID EZ LOL

[little osprey]

lmao

1 WEEK

I just watched a stock tracker

[fossil halo]

i mean 3070 out of my budget anyway

[little osprey]

[fossil halo]

ima prob go for a 3060 8g or 3050ti

[solid rivet]

i got my 3070 ez scalped for 100$ over msrp

[little osprey]

Lul

[fossil halo]

so i got a fair bit of waiting for a bit

waiting for lower end radeons too

[little osprey]

I should upgrade my ram and start overclocking the 3070

[fossil halo]

6700xt supposed to be some sort of best thing or smth

[little osprey]

The GPU market right now is honestly a mess

[fossil halo]

but then thats what happened with the big navi

[little osprey]

a mf mess

[fossil halo]

which was a bit of a wet fart

[fossil halo]

LOL

[solid rivet]

welcome to the world its not getting better anytime soon

[little osprey]

AMD predicted a too good outcome

Lol

"We will roll out actual stock"

[fossil halo]

someone offered sara like 500 dollars or smth for her 5700xt right @wanton cliff

xD

[little osprey]

I got offered 1500 for my 3070

Lmfao

[wanton cliff]

$700

[fossil halo]

LMAO

[little osprey]

People desperate.

[fossil halo]

wait sara

which 5700xt card do u have

i really want the reference holy cow

why are blower style cards so rare

[little osprey]

POG im getting another GEN4 SSD

[fossil halo]

they look faaar cleaner than the open air ones

blower cards look best thermals done matter

[little osprey]

Prob cause nobody wants them

Or models are discontinued

Cause the cooling on thermals are horrid

have you seen Blower Titan XP?

[fossil halo]

this is a beauty

[little osprey]

Well yeah

but thermals might be meh

[fossil halo]

vertical mounted blowers are the best thing in the world

[little osprey]

That actually might be big brain

Wait

YOUR A GENIUS

JUST STACK TWO BLOWERS

VERTICALLY

blowing into eachother

LOL

[fossil halo]

thats not good?

hot air goes into the second one

[little osprey]

Yeah, so just use the second one as a cooler

/heatsink lol

[fossil halo]

thats just impractical tho

they should make blowers for lower end cards that dont require much cooling

[little osprey]

I mean you might be able to reverse the fan

[fossil halo]

just for the aesthetics

[little osprey]

and then suck it out

[fossil halo]

ig

[little osprey]

and use a 120mm fan to pull it out

[lone trellis]

which prebuilt companies are decent

[fossil halo]

i mean the only real use for blowers is in sff builds right

[fossil halo]

redux

nzxt bld to some extent

or i can build u a pc

LOL

[quasi snow]

isn't cyberpower pretty good

[lone trellis]

i can build one but im trying to get the parts cheap

[fossil halo]

redux is ur best bet thin

then*

[lone trellis]

ok thanks

[fossil halo]

redux has pretty good stock

i think its like buildredux.com

[little osprey]

Bruh I have to help my friend with his customer

They need dual 3080s

for machine learning lmao

[fossil halo]

bc they do parts+75$ build fee

imagine

dual 3080s

[little osprey]

Yeah lol

[fossil halo]

then again i think

[little osprey]

for ML

just do a 3090

and he can add a second later

[fossil halo]

i was reading reviews of the threadripper on amazon to see who would be mad enough to buy that thing

[little osprey]

I was debating that.

[little osprey]

People with unlimited budget

lul

quad 3090s

[fossil halo]

yea

that dude was running like 4 or 5 2080ti's

(pre ampere launch ofc)

[little osprey]

stupid

unpractical

[fossil halo]

lemme see if i can find the review

[little osprey]

4*2000

8000 Dollars just in GPU

and then proceeds to buy a b450 lul

I could honestly see that.

it would be x570 if anything

[little osprey]

b450 wouldn't be fitting 4 2080tis unless they were waterblocked

Well that and amount of PCIE lanes

PCIE lanes/input

[little osprey]

What

[fossil halo]

need a trx4 mobo for threadripper anyway

[little osprey]

Well yeah and also more PCIE slots

I think x570 only has two

[fossil halo]

"I recently finished my latest Workstation build with this processor. I'm 65, a retired Aerospace Engineer and I still like to do a lot of CAD design and Rendering for my hobby now. This processor is INSANE Fast ! I have been using workstations in Aerospace for the last 40 years or so. Mostly high end, very expensive UNIX boxes. But I have never seen a processor the likes of this. Expensive? YES. But if you want the best in the world you pay the price. I can't believe anyone would ever be disappointed with the AMD Threadripper 3990x as the heart of their Workstation. This processor actually has an overclocking algorithm built in called "Precision Boost Overdrive" that lets you extend the boost clock to 4.5GHz. You just set it and forget it. I have never had a crash with PBO +200MHz enabled."

[little osprey]

Nope

[fossil halo]

lfmao

5 star review man

[little osprey]

I mean you're buying 8k in gpu/cpu?

why wouldn't you give a 5 star if it satisfied you

[lone trellis]

could a core i3 10100f run games

[fossil halo]

yea

well

u want at least an i5 tbh

[lone trellis]

ok

[pliant lake]

what GPU? that matters more

[little osprey]

I have an urge to build 3080s and 3000G build

[lone trellis]

2060

[fossil halo]

2060 is good

ull get like

[solid rivet]

if you dont buy an i5 now your going to later

[fossil halo]

800 fps in krunker

[lone trellis]

100fps

[fossil halo]

ull get like

100 fps on ultra in fortnite

[wanton cliff]

btw

I used the money from the 5700xt to get a 3070, which I was able to get yesterday

[balmy patio]

😳

which 3070 did you get?

[fossil halo]

wait so u did sell it?