#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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with 3 pcie

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hm

muted patio
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Still fine

little osprey
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idk about not filling all of the cpu pins

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even though it works

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i just dont want my pc

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to just crash

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actually

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@muted patio yk the psu u linked me

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the phanteks one

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if u connect one pcie cable to the psu

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how much pcie cables are there

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like does it split into two or no

muted patio
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Don't daisy chain them like that

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It does split but not recommended

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Each line is only 200W, if your GPU needs more than that, gotta run a separate line

little osprey
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i see

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the psu i have rn

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only has like 1 pcie cable

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then splits into two

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but my 1650 super only requires 1 so its all good

muted patio
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Yes

strong knoll
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Imagine a gpu with 4 pci-e cables lol

frozen tree
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will this wifi card AC WiFi Card Wireless-AC 9260 Wi-Fi 5 802.11ac Network Adapter M.2 2230 Bluetooth 5.0 Wi-Fi Combo Card Support Miracast for Laptop PC Desktop Windows 10 Linux 9260NGW Internal Wireless Adapter

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work on my asrock b550m steel legend with ryzen 5 300 work ?

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ryzen 5 3600

minor lynx
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get a motherboard with inbuilt wifi card

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asrock b550m AC wifi maybe?

blazing pilot
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ok am having a hard time between picking from these 2 lists

frozen tree
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I already got the asrock b550m steel legend

minor lynx
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it'll be less confusing there

frozen tree
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is this a good one ?

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Intel AX200 WiFi 6 BT5.0 M.2 card module

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it keeps popping up as im shoping for one

frozen tree
minor lynx
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wait 1sec

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yeah I don't know much bout' wifi cards

frozen tree
minor lynx
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don' worry, I am still looking for one

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because I can't rest if I can't help

frozen tree
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haha well thank you

frozen tree
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ok cool thank you im gonna compare it to the intel one

minor lynx
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ight

little osprey
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Need help peepoSadSip

rocky beacon
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red dot on my build

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building it rn first turn on

little osprey
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How can I install hard drive in a trendsonic mirror case 200Sad

rocky beacon
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motherboard z490 pro ad

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ax^

little osprey
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Isn't there supposed to some kind of rack to install the hard drive onto then slides into the case?

elfin jackal
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I think my friend messed up, is it okay to liquid cool 5900x and 3090 with only one 360mm raditor?

clever sierra
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hey guys i have a question what does asus optimal mode do and does it increase my fps

blissful aspen
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Hey guys prices going up mid February apparently

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If you can buy parts buy em now lol

elfin jackal
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Yes

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The radiator is 1.2inch thick

little osprey
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I got it on

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Thanks anyways

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Where do case fans connect too? 😂 😂

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Sys_fan?

tough cedar
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is a 3900x + 2070Super + 40gb ram good for workstation

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i couldn’t get any new parts bc they all outta stock and i don’t have to time to wait for them

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or would it be better to go with intel

blazing aurora
tough cedar
sharp blade
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but black?

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ok

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yeah i have a 360 aio

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thats why

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Im think im getting the be quiet 802

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front 360 aio

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and top maybe 3 140 also but idk

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I love the customisation on the 802

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meshify c has one of my friends too

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he just had a problem with the front aio and graphic card

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The graphic card was too long for rad and fans

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yeah that was his problem

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i never tried an aio but i wanna try it

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and im getting a R9 5900x and do some slight overclock

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Thought about the X73

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but maybe some other

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its a 360 rad

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yeah but i can go for a 420

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but thats overkill for just the cpu

jagged ember
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I mean, linus testing showed a 240 is about the sweet spot

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Anything bigger they were met with diminishing returns

stoic island
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Lol

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@jagged ember from GN testing, going from EK-AIO 240mm to 360mm dropped a solid 3c

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:p

jagged ember
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I trust gn more

stoic island
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Oh and btw, that 3c is the same difference from a NH-D15 to a Nzxt x72

jagged ember
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Oh cool

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God damnit

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I just made another joke

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Speaking of jokes, this segue to our sponsor is a joke

stoic island
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Mousemat restocked, I think

jagged ember
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Yoo

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Time to buy

stoic island
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Oo gn toolkit got restocked too

jagged ember
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Totally already have a mousemat I got for a couple dollars

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Who even needs ifixit kit

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Damn, just doesn't have the same ring to it as 'water bottle, lttstore.com'

stoic island
jagged ember
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Honestly I might

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I've been needing a comprehensive toolkit

stoic island
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Lel

jagged ember
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Instead of a bunch of different tools

stoic island
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Ofc Naed and Forky are the people that have uses for and buy really good like 50$ per tool stuff, but yea

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Wera, knipex, and habor freight icon tools are the ones Naed and forky talk about

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Uh

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Free workout

jagged ember
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But gn toolkit

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Lmao

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Honestly a giant bag of power tools is pretty nice

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You can build a house or something whenever you want

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Two houses!

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That's pretty much the same thing isn't it?

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Just less input from him and more from his brother

stoic island
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Rona shouldn't be that bad for house flipping, other than not having enough customers tho

jagged ember
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Man having an Airbnb sounds cool

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I'm just imagining one of those tiny houses

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Well

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That's kinda part of the deal, huh?

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Sometimes you get nice guests

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Sometimes guests are ass and destroy things

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Ohh

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They have a timeframe for insurance claims?

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Well, kinda smart idiots

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They thought to actually put a rock under there

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Instead of leaving it

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Pretty rude tbh

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If I broke a bed

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I'd tell

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It's totally my fault if that happens

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While I live there

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Wonder when Im gonna get an airbnb

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As soon as I get a house or smth ig

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And I learn how to use power tools

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Either the bits are sad

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Or the wall is too strong

blazing aurora
jagged ember
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Doing the linus to them is definitely not what's causing then to break

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Wait.

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The drill, right?

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Honestly cat would be fine

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They're like feathers

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Always land on their feet

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Oh! Speaking of falling pets, I had a relatives pet fall off a balcony once

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Not because of me, but because it got spooked by lightning

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While it wedged itself under the protective bars that stop humans from falling

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Literally just launched itself off

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Ended up with only a sprain

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And probably ptsd for thunder

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Damn coyotes

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Good thing they can't climb

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Aww noooo

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Poor kitty

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Keep the cats close

little osprey
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So...someone offered their 2060S plus $100 to $150 in cash for my gpu. Fair trade?

muted patio
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For a 5700XT?

quasi snow
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You'll see a small frame dip in some games

little osprey
muted patio
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Lose a bit of performance but seems fair.

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my 2060 non super honestly did OK even at 1440p

little osprey
muted patio
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Oh

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Don't use the 2060 for RTX

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performance is honestly poor

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Sub 60 FPS

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Great 1080p performance though

bold meadow
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Hay so I have a 980 what can I do with that

muted patio
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TI or plain 980?

bold meadow
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Plain is far as I know It’s my friends old pc and it’s Coated in viruses And I told him that I would happily take it because when I have right now is not OK

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I just hope it’s a TI

muted patio
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it should do Ok for 1080p gaming

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TI I know for sure will

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GN just did a review of it not that long ago

bold meadow
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Would is do fine in small game streaming

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And maybe some big games

muted patio
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Mmmmm

bold meadow
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And when I mean big I mead Cold War

muted patio
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Not really

bold meadow
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Oof

muted patio
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non-AAA titles it'll do OK

bold meadow
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Bet Minecraft with extreme gtx 😂

muted patio
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Minecraft would be fine

bold meadow
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Is it all really depends on what other components it has

muted patio
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The 900 series doesn't have the streaming cores like the 10 series does I don't think for NVENC

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So streaming would be CPU based

bold meadow
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That makes sense

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I currently have an HP notebook with an amd A6 processor and four gigs or ram

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I can’t open more then four tabs and I had to delete google

muted patio
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I mean

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I just did an old HP laptop with a dual core Turion with Windows 10 and an SSD and 2 gigs of ram

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It's honestly doing OK

bold meadow
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It has that disk error I’ve literally done everything to fix it yeah I can’t fix it I guess it’s just better to get an SSD right

muted patio
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It'll help for sure

little osprey
# muted patio Oh

I can't afford to go longer than a weekend without a gpu. As such I can't just sell it

muted patio
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I mean

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If you're expecting RTX with a 2060

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Just keep the 5700XT

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better performance

serene zealot
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If I start my computer and use the internet without a graphics card cans I get error messages

muted patio
little osprey
serene zealot
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I do with the i7!

bold meadow
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Well it might have extremely crappy Integrated graphics

serene zealot
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True true I will wait to use it hahah

muted patio
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Yeah, with an I7 it'll work

bold meadow
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Lol

muted patio
little osprey
muted patio
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Not really

little osprey
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I only take home $50 a week not counting food/gas

muted patio
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well

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2070/2080 discontinued so

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gonna be used no matter what

serene zealot
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What are causes of whea uncorrectable errors

bold meadow
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I need a mother person’s opinion on witch case to get I’ll be right back

little osprey
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That's also not counting car insurance, phone bills, and others

muted patio
little osprey
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Even on Newegg/amazon

serene zealot
muted patio
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That's because they're discontinued

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5700XT is honestly a good card

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2060 is a downgrade

little osprey
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Yeah, but I run above 80°C average and once it his 95-97 it crashes

bold meadow
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Or this

muted patio
bold meadow
little osprey
bold meadow
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Just leave the side panel open 😂

muted patio
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Adjusting fan curve?

little osprey
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And with 3 front fans as in, 2 top and 1 rear as exhaust

bold meadow
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Where do you have it sitting

little osprey
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By my desk

muted patio
little osprey
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NOT in the corner

muted patio
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because the cooler isn't doing it's job

little osprey
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Could I replace the fans for something better?

muted patio
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Oh yes for sure!

bold meadow
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How quiet does it run

little osprey
bold meadow
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You might want to measure the clearance

muted patio
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Of course it will fit

bold meadow
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Keep the old trusty measuring tape out

little osprey
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I have a corsair 4000D airflow

muted patio
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Because you remove the old cooler

little osprey
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With a 360mm radiator in the front

muted patio
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Although you need a different model

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Stand by

bold meadow
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For some reason when I first looked at them I thought it was just fans and no GPU 😂

muted patio
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it's a complete heatsink unit

bold meadow
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Sorry I’m in a whole different having a conversation

muted patio
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With VRAM coolers also

bold meadow
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My part of this conversation is sort of kind of a relevant I thought for some reason halfway through the conversation I switched from hearing the word GPU to CPU

little osprey
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What's the difference between the two

muted patio
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One fits your 5700XT and one doesn't

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The second one fits

little osprey
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They look the same

muted patio
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I know

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Only the second one fits

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Good for 250 watts

little osprey
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That one's not available

oak jay
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my psu is making a ticking sound, is there a way to fix that?

muted patio
little osprey
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Might

muted patio
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You said 4000D?

little osprey
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Was also thinking of modifying to liquid colong. And yes

muted patio
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Ok, with liquid cooling

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You still need a way to cool the VRM and RAM

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Wait, we've already talked about this lol, haven't we?

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Full block and not an AIO

little osprey
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I think, yeah

muted patio
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SO the GPu cooler is 288 MM

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Case will fit a 360mm GPU

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So even with a rad and fans in front, should still have enough room

little osprey
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Ok

muted patio
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Rad is typicall 40mm thick

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fans are 25mm

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So have a few MM to spare

little osprey
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Would it be safer to go with a 2 fan cooler to be safe?

muted patio
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2 fan cooler might not better than what you already have

little osprey
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True

muted patio
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Raijintek makes a good one but it's out of stock everywhere

little osprey
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Would the 3 fans even make a difference especially if it overhangs?

muted patio
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Yes

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Heatpipes

little osprey
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Ok

bold meadow
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 Quick question

muted patio
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Also

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Fans blowing directly down on VRM and VRAm

bold meadow
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Will I be able to play rust

muted patio
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With a 980?

bold meadow
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Yep

little osprey
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Probably

muted patio
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That will be rough

little osprey
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Low graphics maybe

bold meadow
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What if I over clock to it

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I meant what can I do with overclocking

muted patio
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Not much

hollow grail
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980 still ok for 1080p

muted patio
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Kinda

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Sub 60 FPS but playable

earnest olive
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45-50 fps at 1080p max settings

bold meadow
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 on my current PC if I wanna play on Minecraft server I have to lower literally every graphical setting and use an ethernet cable and I get about 10 frames per second

earnest olive
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can probably get 60 fps by dropping to medium/high

muted patio
earnest olive
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ethernet cable has nothing to do with framerate

bold meadow
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It’s an HP laptop with a amd A6 processor

earnest olive
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oof

bold meadow
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And four gigs of RAM with integrated graphics

muted patio
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Oh

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Well

earnest olive
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yeah not surprised it's getting 10 fps in minecraft at lowest settings

muted patio
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Yo can't put a 980 in that lol

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So what PC are you getting?

bold meadow
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It’s all I got

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I know

earnest olive
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980 egpu... the egpu enclosure is worth more than both the gtx 980 and the laptop

muted patio
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Yeah

bold meadow
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My friend is giving me his old PC

earnest olive
muted patio
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Plus no Thunderbolt lol

little osprey
earnest olive
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on the bright side

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you can sell your 5700xt for $550 used nowadays

hollow grail
muted patio
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oof

hollow grail
earnest olive
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ebay?

little osprey
earnest olive
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it's hilarious to me that used 5700xts are selling for way more than their new msrp

muted patio
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I mean, 5700XT still decent, just replace the cooler

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Or buy new GPU and sell old one

little osprey
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Might wait till I get an extended break from school

earnest olive
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5700xt to 3060ti would not be a very big upgrade

little osprey
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Better cooling, rtx

earnest olive
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unless you need nvidia features or play minecraft

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lol

muted patio
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Other than RTX and DLSS, no

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Better cooling, spend the $70 for the cooler

little osprey
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True

earnest olive
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arctic accelero extreme?

little osprey
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Probably

muted patio
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Yeah

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The Raijintek is out of stock everywhere

little osprey
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Isn't the raijintek rgb?

muted patio
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IDK

little osprey
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Mmm, I don't really care for gpu rgb fans, especially since they won't be visible

muted patio
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I mean, it's not RGB as far as I know

hollow grail
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or if u dont want blackscreens every 20 mins

muted patio
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Gotta add your own fans though

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Where the Arctic has fans

little osprey
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Ahhh

pastel barn
stoic island
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uh

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what's it for

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do you own any of it already

earnest olive
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$300 for 9700K O_O

stoic island
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yea

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same price as 9900k at MC a bit ago xD

bold meadow
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I need to monitor with VGAHDMI and display port at least one of each with small borders and I cans find a ok price for one

pastel barn
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I own the case/motherboard. I'll be using it for gaming/streaming and Multi-tasking

stoic island
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rip

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Any chance the mobo can be returned or no

earnest olive
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9900K has gone on sale for that price before

pastel barn
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Yeah, why?

stoic island
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Well actually 9900k is still 320$ at MC if you're near one, decent deal

pastel barn
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Is mobo not good?

hollow grail
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old

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ded socket

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lul

stoic island
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yea, lga1151 locks you to a 9900k at best

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which is a decent chip, but upgradability is out the window

pastel barn
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Oof really?

earnest olive
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tbf 10700K to 11900K is kind of a meme upgrade

stoic island
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I mean, depends on how well they do the ipc gains

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because it could become something similar to 3600->5600x

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Leaks look nice, but leaks are only leaks

earnest olive
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by the time the 10700K is obsolete you'd be better off with a 15600K than a 11900K lol

stoic island
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true

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and ddr4 would've died completely by then

earnest olive
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@pastel barn it's a last gen motherboard selling for a higher price than comparable current gen Z490 boards that locks you into inferior cpu choices

pastel barn
stoic island
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I'll go edit the list to what I'd buy today rq

earnest olive
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if you want bang for the buck on intel

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i7-10700F + MSI Z490-A PRO

random prairie
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i think i broke my pc

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wont turn on

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but motherboard light up

stoic island
pastel barn
stoic island
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I chipped off 160$ from the original list

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adding on a 10700k+z490-a pro

earnest olive
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it's the same price lol

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let's not evade the filter 🙂

stoic island
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only real change other than cheaper parts for the same quality is 1 less fan, since the case comes with 1x140mm rear and 2x140mm front, just need 1 more 140mm to fill up the front, no real need for more.

earnest olive
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if you're going to go for oc idk if that cooler is enough

stoic island
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Eh, there should be enough budget left if you do want to up it to, I dunno, freezer ii 240mm or smth

earnest olive
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think you can save some more on case and psu

stoic island
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I'm leaving the case because they already own it, but if they are willing to return case too, yea, can get cheaper case

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I like d.f. 850w tho, just such a nice price for the quality :P

pastel barn
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Case isn't returnable but, I'll for sure return the motherboard for that z490

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ty

random prairie
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hey

stoic island
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@earnest olive btw, now that amp 650w is back at 100$ on amazon, I'd prob grab amp over core gm

random prairie
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mr1111

stoic island
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hi

random prairie
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dude i think my pc broke

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wont turn on

stoic island
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what happened before

random prairie
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nothing

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like i was playing all day yesterday

earnest olive
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$81 is just a really attractive price point for the core gm

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i used it in a 3070 build yesterday

stoic island
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uhh

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it says 96$ on my end

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90$+6$ shipping

earnest olive
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$15 rebate

random prairie
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then i click shut down then went to bed

muted patio
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rebates

stoic island
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oh I never count MIBs

muted patio
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Who does those lol!

stoic island
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who has time to deal with MIBs :P

muted patio
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That

stoic island
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I found my mail in rebate for my g3 about a year after I bought it

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forgot all about it

muted patio
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Exactly LMAO

stoic island
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@random prairie debug leds?

random prairie
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nothing turning on

stoic island
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is it plugged in..?

random prairie
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only the light

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yea

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i think its the psu

stoic island
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What light

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where

random prairie
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this one

stoic island
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need more info

random prairie
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that light

stoic island
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hm

muted patio
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Just board RGB

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Which means mobo getting 5V power

random prairie
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bruh it broke

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it's probably the psu

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im guessing

full atlas
muted patio
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Mmmm

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not enough CPu for that GPU

random prairie
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vintage

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do you know what to do

muted patio
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unplug from wall, plug back in

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reset PSU

random prairie
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bet

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do i turn psu off

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do i flick switch

muted patio
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Unplug from wall, plug back in, see if PSU resets

random prairie
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k

blazing aurora
muted patio
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10400F would be ideal

blazing aurora
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otherwise you could go with a 1600 and a 2060

muted patio
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or 3600

random prairie
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nope

blazing aurora
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^^

random prairie
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i unplug then plug back in then turn on no work

muted patio
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Coupd be PSU or mb

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Probs PSU though

random prairie
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is a wire loose in the back

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could that be it

muted patio
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WDYm a wire loose in the back

random prairie
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its full modular

muted patio
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Could be

random prairie
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k hold up

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brb

full atlas
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I don’t see why a 1600af wouldn’t be able to handle a 3060ti tho

earnest olive
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only at 4K

muted patio
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You don't have an AF in your list though

full atlas
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Yes I do lol

earnest olive
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it's not that the pc won't turn on or anything it'll just be bottlenecked

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12nm is indeed the AF

muted patio
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I mean,

earnest olive
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but a 1600AF is a cut down 2600

muted patio
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It'll still be a bit bottlenecked

earnest olive
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and a 2600 still wouldn't be enough

muted patio
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I know what the AF is lol

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But

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still not a great match

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Honestly 10400F be better

earnest olive
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saying it for him not you

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I know you know

muted patio
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For minimal price increase

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It's what $150?

earnest olive
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let's keep build chat on topic

viral ore
full atlas
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Do you have a source to back up your claims of a significant botttleneck for a 1600af and 3060ti?

earnest olive
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lol

muted patio
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benchmarks with that CPU vs others. EZ

earnest olive
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if you don't want the answer then don't ask the question

random prairie
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nope

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still no work

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whats this eco switch do

muted patio
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That MB also has no diagnostic LED's or a speaker

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If something goes wrong, no way to tell

random prairie
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hm

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any ideas?

muted patio
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Leave just CPU and MB power connected, see if it powers up

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Otherwise, need spare parts to test.

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Might be a bad case switch too

random prairie
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k

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nope

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no power with vga unplugged

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i thnk its the case

muted patio
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Remove FP switch connector

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Touch the two pins with a metal screwdriver

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See if start

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If not, PSU or MB then

random prairie
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uhhh ok

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i removed gpu

muted patio
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and

random prairie
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is it one that say power sw

muted patio
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yes

random prairie
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@muted patio

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still no work

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finna just hit up microcenter

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see if they do stuff to it

little osprey
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Does my dust tray go on the inside or the outside of my case

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Outside

strong knoll
random prairie
#

idk

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kinda bummed

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just built it last month

still roostBOT
#
Tanjiro Kamado#2704 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

blazing pilot
#

frick

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i need to make my pc good for editing and gaming

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am send my specs

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tell me if it goof

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good

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foredit

strong knoll
#

Dude I swear if seen u send ur specs like 4 or 5 times already lmao

blazing pilot
#

incorrect

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7th

muted patio
#

Every day, multiple times a day, 3 builds and we vote

blazing pilot
#

this the last one

strong knoll
#

Dude not tryna be a d i c k but just pick one already

blazing pilot
#

ok just check is it okay for gaming and edit

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and u are not a d i c k you are just annoyed

pastel cliff
#

Hello, i am new to PC's and would love some help building or a good pre built for beginners. Wanting to play controller on PC

balmy patio
balmy patio
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2x16

blazing pilot
#

oh ok

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no its 16

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2x8

pastel cliff
#

can anyone help?

quasi snow
#

Also that hdd isn't too good a wd blue 2 tb would be better

strong knoll
blazing pilot
#

yes i made it 32

muted patio
#

If you're editing, seems like you'd have important data to keep

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Ditch the Seagate and get a WD or Toshiba

#

Seagates have a high failure rate

#

Couple here died in 2 months or less

blazing pilot
#

died like humans or the hard drives

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am guess hard drives

muted patio
#

-_-

blazing pilot
#

am wrong

blazing aurora
#

lol

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i only started hearing about the seagate failure rate after i bought a barracuda for my build 🥲

blazing pilot
#

refund it

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its like 2% i think

muted patio
#

more than that

blazing pilot
#

is it

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5

blazing aurora
#

it's a wee bit late for refunds

blazing pilot
#

hmm

blazing aurora
#

i finished my build in december

blazing pilot
#

ehh say it did not work

#

what good hard drive instead of seagate

stoic island
#

WD cmr drives

muted patio
#

Toshiba X300

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XD

blazing aurora
#

i should've gone with WD Blue

muted patio
#

if you want a big drive

#

HDWE160

blazing pilot
#

mr1111 what it called

stoic island
#

and also, seagate drives prob have something like 2% higher AFR over like WD

blazing pilot
#

ehh wd blue thing num

muted patio
#

I also like how Seagate decided to not use MTBF anymore

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To make their numbers better

stoic island
#

lol

muted patio
#

sus

blazing pilot
#

mr111 is this good HDWE160

stoic island
#

what

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x300 is good

blazing pilot
#

what hard drive would u gegt

muted patio
#

it's a 6TB drive

lyric thistle
#

My 2014 barracuda doing nicely

muted patio
#

Yeah

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back when they were decent

lyric thistle
#

ST1000DM003

blazing pilot
muted patio
#

New ones are spoop

stoic island
#

yea x300 for higher than 4tb

blazing aurora
#

what's the estimated failure rate of the seagate barracuda line

blazing pilot
#

i need 2tb

stoic island
#

I mean

blazing pilot
#

should i warn my bro he is getting a bigger hard drive

muted patio
blazing pilot
#

wtf

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thats so ba

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d

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mr1111 said its 2%

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora forewarning, we get Annualized failure rate for data for drive failures, but lemme go grab some

muted patio
#

Right

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Competition is 0.25-0.5%

stoic island
#

Yes, from 0.5% to 2% is 4 times the failure rate

blazing pilot
#

oh

stoic island
muted patio
#

but that's for 4 TB drives

blazing aurora
#

2% isn't that much quite frankly

blazing pilot
#

anyways what 2 tb do ineed to get

muted patio
#

not 2 TB

blazing aurora
#

higher than i'd like, yeah, but nothing to lose sleep over

muted patio
#

If you'd only seen the amount of dead 2 TB barracudas in here

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Just sayin

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That chart doesn't have the 2 TB barracuda in it

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora This isn't about "oh you have seagate go throw it away", it's about "Oh you have better options for better reliability"

carmine dew
stoic island
#

overpriced

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M27q ftw

blazing pilot
#

i sneeze 2tb hard drive

carmine dew
#

whats a cheaper alternative

stoic island
blazing pilot
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i need one]

stoic island
#

@blazing pilot I mean you could still get a x300 4tb, but remember that 2tb wd drive I kept telling you to get :P

carmine dew
#

any g-sync that u would recc

stoic island
#

what

blazing pilot
#

what was it called @stoic island

stoic island
#

@carmine dew all modern freesync panels are g-sync compatible

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it's basically the same tech afterall

carmine dew
#

so i can utilize g-sync on a free sync monitor?

stoic island
#

Yes

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Like how I'm using mine

carmine dew
#

😮

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i didnt know that

stoic island
#

M27q has higher refresh rate if that matters, better color, and iirc better peak color for hdr

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oh and I'm pretty sure better response time from hw unboxed testing

carmine dew
#

so i should get the gigabyte one

stoic island
#

Yes

pastel cliff
#

can someone help

carmine dew
#

this one right?

stoic island
#

Yes

carmine dew
#

okie

#

tysm

upbeat lodge
blazing pilot
#

i cant find the 2tb u told me to get mr1111

lyric thistle
#

Which would that be?

blazing pilot
#

wd blue

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i think

lyric thistle
#

I know I probably shouldn't be dismayed by 5400 rpm

stoic island
#

Yes, you shouldn't

blazing pilot
#

is there a big diffrence

stoic island
#

prob still faster than like the Seagate drive in the end because CMR vs SMR xD

lyric thistle
#

What's cmr?

#

Smr is shingle?

stoic island
#

Yes

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SMR iirc impacts writes by a lot

lyric thistle
#

I'm guessing Seagate uses smr

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That's interesting

stoic island
#

Well, Seagate hasn't came out about which consumer drives use SMR and which don't

#

WD did, so we can be sure

lyric thistle
#

I watched a vid that smr nas drives are dodgy with nas software

stoic island
#

Yes

blazing pilot
#

good

stoic island
#

prob need to swap some things around for SA pricing

#

but yea

lyric thistle
#

You can check the serial numbers for future reference

blazing pilot
#

sa price is the same as use

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ysa

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usa

stoic island
#

No, because amazon US doesn't ship to SA afaik

blazing pilot
#

i had to google afaik

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not sure

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its okay

#

since

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new egg b&h can ship

#

my uncle in usa can buy other parts and ship it

bold glen
#

so I'm installing my mobo into the case but some of the screws arent going in well, they're stopping like half way and not going anymore. did I do something wrong?

blazing pilot
#

hmmmmmm

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hmm

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cut off the rest of the screw

muted patio
#

Probs wrong screws

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Wrong threads

blazing pilot
#

am joking

#

check ur not using the case screws

bold glen
#

I'm following video and he said to use 6-32 flats

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and I have very similar build to the video

blazing pilot
#

did u check the mobo

bold glen
#

WAIT I got it 👍👍

blazing pilot
#

its the same

#

what

#

tell me the answer

bold glen
#

one screw was just not working

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but another did

blazing pilot
#

come on man

bold glen
#

no clue why

#

I like demon slayer too though 👍👍

lyric thistle
#

Sometimes to get a threaded thing to go in right you have to twist it loose one rotation to get it locked in

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Honestly a good habit to make for everything you screw in

muted patio
#

Yes, backthread until you feel it seat

bold glen
#

yeah I think I was screwing in one screw kinda angle so it got stripped a bit

muted patio
#

Then screw in

bold glen
#

yep that's what I figured out

still roostBOT
#
TheRealCat#9999 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

bold glen
#

my bad!

#

how the h*ck am I supposed to screw that in 🤨

muted patio
#

Pro tip

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You don't need ALL the screws

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But I didn't tell you that

bold glen
#

W got it

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magnetic screwdriver is helpful asf rn

lyric thistle
#

Penny pinching screws edition

bold glen
#

yeah this is my first build so I'm just gonna take all the precautions

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I have the time and screws

neat reef
#

hello, im about to put together my new PC, i will be using the same harddrive as my old pc

#

i want it to be as easy as putting together a new PC with a new harddrive so i want to remove windows from my harddrive

#

but any tips or alternatives?

lyric thistle
#

Everything important backed up?

neat reef
#

yeh

lyric thistle
#

Alr

neat reef
#

just the reset this pc on windows 10?

lyric thistle
#

Just go ahead and set the drive aside until you have the new pc set up

neat reef
#

shouldnt i reset it while its in my current pc

lyric thistle
#

Then you can reinstall the drive, it will be recognized and you can reformat it

neat reef
#

oh

lyric thistle
#

You should probably format it in the new one

neat reef
#

so i can just leave it with windows on it?

bold glen
neat reef
#

in one of the tutorials they were saying theres something different you gotta do for harddrives with windows already on it, just was confused by it

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since the mobo and stuff doesn't have windows on it

#

the new parts

lyric thistle
#

It's best to install windows fresh on your new pc

#

On presumably a new ssd

neat reef
#

my ssd is only 238gb is that enough?

#

do you happen to know how much clean windows is?

#

how much gb

bold glen
#

I think windows installation is around 8gb? idk that's what I've heard

#

238 should be fine

neat reef
#

google says 15gb

bold glen
#

ok yeah probably

neat reef
#

i guess i should just use that then

#

thanks, just gonna follow a normal tutorial with new hardware

bold glen
#

👍

bold glen
neat reef
#

i cant imagine there would be without having the cable not be in the back

bold glen
#

yeah I'm tryna figure it out

neat reef
#

ill be facing that cords placement here soon too lol

bold glen
#

yep

#

your first time build too?

neat reef
#

yeh my first pc was pre-built in 2012

#

im gonna follow jayztwocents video called "things to do after building ur pc" or something

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the building is pretty simple to me

bold glen
#

ah yeah

#

my current pc is an all in one

#

let's just say it isn't great

neat reef
#

yeh custom built is the way to go

#

prebuilt or not lol, preferably built urself tho

bold glen
neat reef
#

Turned off this PC for the last time peepoSadSip

#

Those are the front panel lights I think

#

Just LEDs

gusty abyss
#

read your motherboard's manual

bold glen
#

true!

neat reef
#

Usually in the bottom right corner of the mobo

#

I hope my ddr3 RAM holds up in this new PC lol

bold glen
#

darn only ddr3

neat reef
#

Yeh, I don’t think it matters that much tho

weak field
#

dang your pfp really do be a WAP

neat reef
#

WhatChamp

#

They should make left handed cases, where the mobo is on the opposite side, for people that use a dual monitor to the right of the main

full atlas
#

How much should I pay for a used b350 tomahawk in decent condition with an I/o shield? And is it good for a 2700x?

neat reef
#

Where does the third RAM stick go? 4th or 2nd soot?

#

Slot

#

Yes

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2 4gb and 1 8gb

lyric thistle
#

What board?

neat reef
#

B550 gaming edge wifi

lyric thistle
#

DDR3??

neat reef
#

Yeh

#

It’s from my old pc, didn’t want to spend to much

balmy patio
#

ram form factors aren't bacwards or forwards compatible 😳

lyric thistle
#

AM4 platform has only ever used DDR4

neat reef
#

Oof

#

Amazon I go

lyric thistle
#

Fun fact, some boards out there have support for DDR2 or 3

balmy patio
#

thank you for your fun fact

lyric thistle
#

Really weird but for some reason a thing

neat reef
#

So yeh I can’t use this PC today due to not having ddr4 RAM?

lyric thistle
#

2x8 or 2x16 if you're up for higher price

neat reef
#

Okee I’ll just get the quick delivery from amazon, hopefully they have good selection

#

Super annoying lol, thought I’d be playing Cyberpunk today,

#

Should have did more research

lyric thistle
#

Could also do 2x4, no shame in 8GB, just gotta help programs manage it better

#

Firefox has plugins to reduce memory footprint, I'm sure other programs do too

neat reef
#

I’ll probably start with 8gb to save money

#

For now

#

Hmm

#

Maybe I should just go to Best Buy lol

lyric thistle
#

I have 12GB in my computer, wouldn't recommend doing it yourself, it's a prebuilt and prebuilts are wack, 1x8 1x4, it's almost plenty for me but I discovered the Firefox plugin after I lost access to my computer so once I install that plugin I should be good

bold glen
neat reef
#

Yeh I really should have did more research

lyric thistle
#

Might be fine 1600 and up

#

Then again I don't imagine the ai being great for mem speed

#

Or memory

#

Or cpu

neat reef
#

I can get a 8gb patriot viper elite

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For not much

#

Looks like I’ll get it today

#

Anything I should be wary of with just 8gb?

#

Other than like not a lot of stuff open

lyric thistle
#

Chrome

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No chrome

#

You can probably do combos of two firefox with that plugin, discord, a game

#

Depending on the game and how modded it is

neat reef
#

Cyberpunk with a 3080

#

Google said something about a “killer GPU” making a difference

lyric thistle
#

With 8gb in my grandma's craptop, I can play minecraft with easily with firefox open, discord too I think

neat reef
#

Yeh and isn’t mc very RAM dependant

lyric thistle
#

Have you played cyberpunk before?

#

No it's not

#

Not until you add the mods, then it is

neat reef
#

Oh

#

Nah

lyric thistle
#

Me neither

neat reef
#

I can always get another stick tomorrow if there’s problems

lyric thistle
#

I wouldn't know its average drag on ram

neat reef
#

Either way I don’t think 8gb will bring up any serious issues

lyric thistle
#

Nah

neat reef
#

I’ll be playing it at 4K, RTX on this so maybe :/

#

That’s mostly GPU load tho, i hardly know how RAM works so idk

lyric thistle
#

If sticking with only 8gb I'd do 2x4, but you'll probably consider an upgrade so you could go for 1x8 for now

#

The vram on the gpu takes care of most of the frame rendering for higher resolutions

crisp ember
neat reef
#

Ok awesome

#

I’ll @ you with the performance later if I remember

#

You want more than 600w for the 30 series

#

3070 at least

crisp ember
#

How much do you think

neat reef
#

3080 is 750w recommended

#

So 700w minimum id think

#

Google will tell you exactly

crisp ember
#

Other than that is the setup good?

balmy patio
#

case is completely my choice, you can change it if you'd like, i just like it cuz it looks fair enough and has three fans

#

changed it cuz the nzxt's h510's airflow is wonkers

#

but the case does look nice

crisp ember
#

I like the case for sure

#

Can you tell me why you made the other changes?

#

Not doubting you I just don’t know much

civic tusk
#

why a 3600?

#

and why mp34?

stoic island
#

why not mp34

#

oh wait it's 512gb I take that back

civic tusk
#

He never gonna use that speed

stoic island
#

ye, helix-l time

civic tusk
#

Price ain't too bad though

stoic island
#

But I like MP34 1tb

civic tusk
#

for the price difference there mp34 aint a bad choice

#

i would have said go sn550

#

But it only $4 less

stoic island
#

actually, 59$ for mp34 512gb isn't bad right now

#

read it as 69$ lmao

civic tusk
#

3600 aint a good choice though imo

crisp ember
#

So 3200?

balmy patio
#

the mobo i changed it because it's on the b550 chipset, allowing you to upgrade to future stuff if you'd like, the ram you choose is overpriced for what it delivers, idk crap about storage i just went with what they recommend, case i already explained, and the psu is tier b and cheap asf

stoic island
#

Ram wise, ddr4 market is just wack

civic tusk
#

you can upgrade to 11th gen if you went b460 and intel i5 10400f which is a better value choice

stoic island
#

but 3200c16 prices are settling down a bit, ~65$ now

#

@civic tusk tbh I really want to see b560 so we can slap on 10400/10100 on it with unlocked ram

civic tusk
#

i agree

#

b560 looking nice

stoic island
#

But I don't know if they will even do backwards compatibility, and when it'll be out, and stock situation

balmy patio
#

that would be awesome tbh

crisp ember
#

So what’s the difference between b450 and 550

stoic island
#

PCIe 4.0, guaranteed Zen 3 support, and SAM

civic tusk
#

i just don't think you should go amd at all tbh

#

3600 is just not worth the price

stoic island
#

Imo, there's an argument to be made if they see themselves buying a zen 3 chip within the next year or so

civic tusk
#

yeah i guess so

little osprey
civic tusk
#

i would pick a better mobo though tbh

balmy patio
stoic island
#

Yes, on the unlocked ram bit

crisp ember
#

How high does b450 upgrade to?

stoic island
#

Depends on the board

#

some have beta bioses for Zen 3, some don't

civic tusk
#

ryzen 5000 if you have the right board

#

msi for example does

stoic island
#

I haven't been watching the beta bioses, but I believe MSI is doing it for all boards

#

Asrock had a bunch of their boards leaked to have beta bioses, but dunno how it is now

bold glen
#

I can't find the usbc connecter on my mobo but it has a usbc slot on the pannel

stoic island
#

USB 3.1/3.2 internal header

crisp ember
#

So the b450 tomahawk is good or bad?

stoic island
#

no

#

For more reasons just being b450

civic tusk
#

not good value anymore

stoic island
#

it's a single m.2

#

way overhyped

#

not worth

balmy patio
#

dang people got so revolved around tomahawk good

crisp ember
#

Any recommendations on another?

civic tusk
#

nah it was okay at best

#

had okay vrm's

#

but was limited in areas

stoic island
#

All it had was reasonably good VRMs

bold glen
#

I cannot find this usbc connecter on my mobo

stoic island
#

and then reddit hopped on that bandwagon

#

@bold glen Wait, rear io or are you finding the connector for front panel usb-c?

#

@crisp ember just go b550

bold glen
#

rear io has usbc

stoic island
#

Okay, so you found it..?

bold glen
#

cannot find the usbc thing to connect on my Mobo to case

balmy patio
#

so the header is what you cannot find?

stoic island
#

Just plug it into USB 3.1/3.2 header on the mobo, what board?

bold glen
#

yeah

#

b450 tomahawk max

crisp ember
#

Was the AsRock one that was recommended good?

stoic island
#

it might not have any...

bold glen
#

it has a usbc on the rear io?

crisp ember
#

Or should I go for an msi mobo

balmy patio
#

but it prob doesn't have a header to connect to the front panel io

bold glen
#

ok

stoic island
#

I mean, b550m pro4 decent, 115$ seems a bit steep tho

bold glen
#

so the usbc probably won't work then?

stoic island
#

it was 100$ not too long ago

balmy patio
#

it goes down to 90 bucks sometimes

crisp ember
#

Am I looking for 2 m.2 slot or just 1

stoic island
#

2 ofc

#

1 m.2 slot is only really bad boards lel

#

@crisp ember b550m pro4 works fine, maybe b550m pro-vdh wifi if you need wifi, gets you bios flashback too

crisp ember
#

Which one should I get

#

Because I’m going to use Ethernet cable

#

So I’m guessing the pro4

balmy patio
#

both have ethernet

crisp ember
#

I know but I’m not going to need the WiFi part

#

Is that better

stoic island
#

ew on the storage and psu

#

why'd you change them

#

they were so good before

#

and just

crisp ember
#

I thought I needed for wattage

stoic island
#

...

#

anything but CXm

balmy patio
#

600w is enough for up to a 3070

stoic island
#

just get a decent unit

#

like SG-G, in the previous list

crisp ember
#

I changed the psu back

#

What’s wrong with the storage

stoic island
#

ssd wise

#

it's just