building-and-recc-chat

[glass dome]

ah ok

Thanks for the help

[ripe wedge]

np

[shrewd charm]

So anyone got good build for work pc that can support 3 plus monitors

[ripe wedge]

probably

[muted patio]

Anything with a GPU

Most modern GPU's have 4 video output

[ripe wedge]

^

unless its some low end gpu like a gt 730 for example

whats your budget? I could throw a list together @shrewd charm

also what would you be using it for primarily?

[shrewd charm]

Lol ok I just don't trust myself looking for complete build for work do statistics want new processor 6+ cores 16 -32 gb ram min 500 storage really need min 3 monitors under 1 k if possible

[clever eagle]

Not at all

[ripe wedge]

oh ok, I can find ya a good prebuilt

[clever eagle]

PrEbUiLt

[hollow grail]

710 5x hdmi

[ripe wedge]

does it really?

[hollow grail]

yes

[ripe wedge]

wow

[clever eagle]

I FOUND THE PSU

[ripe wedge]

bomb

[hollow grail]

video adapter card good at being video adapter

more news at 11

[ripe wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tonight-doom-gif-19873326

[clever eagle]

😶

You must buy the power supply it has lifetime warranty

[ripe wedge]

do they need to be hdmi monitors or can they be displayport?

[shrewd charm]

Doesn't matter still have to buy monitors

[ripe wedge]

ah

[clever eagle]

Display port

[ripe wedge]

well the pc I was going to send has 3 displayports and 1 hdmi

[clever eagle]

That's great

[shrewd charm]

Sounds great

[ripe wedge]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali470/p/N82E16883360055?

[clever eagle]

Get cheep aoc monitor

[ripe wedge]

this one would be decent

I only say decent because it has a cheapo mobo

[shrewd charm]

Looks good

Thanks

[ripe wedge]

im still looking

[shrewd charm]

OK cool

Can I add ram recommendations?

Also is it ez

[ripe wedge]

what ya mean?

[shrewd charm]

32 GB memory would allow me to make better use of cores

[ripe wedge]

I mean what are you going to be doing on it?

[muted patio]

Ram is based on the software you use

Not how many cores you ahve

[ripe wedge]

16gb is more than enough for most people

32gb will become more common in a few more years but 16gb is fine

[muted patio]

UNless you're doing rendering or something

[ripe wedge]

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Revolt-9330-i5-10600K/dp/B08FPT92JD/ this one was kinda cool cuz it has a i5 10600k but doesnt give me enough details about it for me to fully recommend

[shrewd charm]

I do statistics for fisheries stock analysis running models over larger Geospatial and time series data sets in run out w 128gb in past. Obviously can afford that bunch but 32 would be pref

[ripe wedge]

plus weird size case

that sounds pretty intensive

[shrewd charm]

Super weird case but pretty cool no where near enough memory though

[ripe wedge]

yeah memory is cheaper to throw in later tho

but for the price range with a 10600k in it is nice

[shrewd charm]

10600k?

[ripe wedge]

its an overclockable i5

6 core 12 thread

[shrewd charm]

Ok

[ripe wedge]

sorry didnt specify lol

[muted patio]

Hmmmm

Can that software utilize a GPU at all or no?

[shrewd charm]

Lol Im a noob

[ripe wedge]

ibuypower is garbage usually tho

might be worth putting together a pc with a 10700 with 32gb and a gt 710

rather than buying a prebuilt

for the most part you wouldnt be gaming right?

[shrewd charm]

I don't know how to but probably I code in R can use parallel with cpu cores not sure about gpu just need multi monitors because I have code figures writing and console all up

Na i mostly game xbox

[ripe wedge]

ah

well lets change that

[shrewd charm]

Do civ or Rome on pc but that doesn't take much

[ripe wedge]

ill make a list real quick of parts and then see if I can find a work station type prebuilt

[neon condor]

I'm sure they exist.

[shrewd charm]

Cool thanks

[muted patio]

$700 Intel build, 32 GB ram

No GPU so you'll need to find one with 4 video outputs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zJ8Wj2

[ripe wedge]

gt 710 lili said

it has 5 hdmi

[muted patio]

Lemme see if I can do better on the RAM

I didn't see a 710 listed

[ripe wedge]

also why are you giving him just a hdd?

it isnt 2009

[muted patio]

I mean

Not like speed is a thing

[solid dust]

Oh, someone said on my build to get another storage card, just for windows, would that be worth it, or is it just a luxury?

[muted patio]

RAM more valuable than drive

For that application

[ripe wedge]

you can have games and stuff on the OS ssd thats fine

[ripe wedge]

well true but you could get a cheap 500gb m.2 ssd like a 970 evo for like $60

[muted patio]

GT710 only has 2 video outs

[ripe wedge]

oh then lili bad techie

lol

jk ill look around tho

[solid dust]

Oh yeah, and if I need more ram I can always download more right?

[shrewd charm]

Seems like most don't have more than 2 from shopping around must not be super popular

[muted patio]

64 GB of ram

4 video outs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ggJvvf

[ripe wedge]

thats a pricy gtx 1050 ti

[muted patio]

Yup

find one used

[ripe wedge]

also why did u bump that hdd to a 2tb?

[muted patio]

Cuz I could

[ripe wedge]

lol im cringing so hard rn

[muted patio]

$50 for 2 TB

Don't cringe, build to suit needs

[shrewd charm]

These pc builder links are going to work tomorrow right?

[muted patio]

They don't NEED an SSD

[ripe wedge]

yeah its not bad but at least get a 240gb boot ssd 🤨

[muted patio]

They need RAM and video out

[junior crescent]

Is 3200mhz Ram speed good with a 5800x??

[ripe wedge]

these are just lists of parts, they dont build them for you

[muted patio]

No

5800x needs 3600 C16 or 3800 mhz

[ripe wedge]

^

[muted patio]

yes, that link will work tomorrow

I saved it

[shrewd charm]

Ya but you just like put it together right like legos

[muted patio]

You will also need an OS

that's not included in the price

[ripe wedge]

yeah, its fairly easy to build a pc

there are tons of helpful youtube videos

[shrewd charm]

Been using Debian for a while annoying to share w coworkers but doable

[ripe wedge]

yeah you could run linux on it

instead of getting windows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xtMImcneMQ&ab_channel=NeweggStudios @shrewd charm

[shrewd charm]

Not huge windows guy but everyone wants things in word sigh

[ripe wedge]

this should be about the same stuff you should have to do

google docs

can export as word documents

[junior crescent]

Corsair Vengence RGB Pro 16gb 3600mhz with the 5800x

[celest horizon]

Just use ms office online

[ripe wedge]

oh yeah thats a thing, forgot about that

[shrewd charm]

Ya good point

[celest horizon]

Office 365 I mean

[shrewd charm]

Been doing latex but others can't add or edit as ez

[celest horizon]

And if you need anything else run it through virtualbox

[ripe wedge]

or vmware

with just a non activated windows

[shrewd charm]

Ya that would do

[celest horizon]

So qemu

[shrewd charm]

Qemu?

[ripe wedge]

its a emulator

[shrewd charm]

Ok

[ripe wedge]

https://www.qemu.org/

[shrewd charm]

Interesting

Thanks for your help guys. I'll let you know how it goes

[ripe wedge]

np, id recommend getting at least a small ssd for the boot drive and if you need mass storage get a wd blue hdd

I think that motherboard has an m.2 slot let me check

[shrewd charm]

Ok cool thanks I think I actually know what that means lol

[ripe wedge]

yeah it does, so id recommend something like a sn750 or a samsung 970 evo

an ssd is a solid state drive

it is much faster than a traditional hard drive

an m.2 nvme ssd is way faster

like 5x as fast as a sata ssd

[shrewd charm]

What for which computer r we talking

[ripe wedge]

the computer parts list

that vintage made

[shrewd charm]

Ok the 2nd one

[ripe wedge]

it would be worth learning how to put together a pc, it would save you some money and actually feel proud about the pc you built

[shrewd charm]

I did it when 14 with help but probably doesn't really matter lol

[ripe wedge]

yeah that one but the problem is he didnt include a graphics card in it so I can try and look for something real quick

oh wait

[shrewd charm]

That would be great

[ripe wedge]

he included a gtx 1050 ti but its really over priced

[shrewd charm]

Oh ok

You guys r like really fast with this stuff

I've been browsing for days

[ripe wedge]

lol the biggest computer nerds are here

[shrewd charm]

Good

[ripe wedge]

@hollow grail what model gt 710 has 5 hdmi? err what would be the best one with 3 any combo of hdmi/dp

oh I think its the asus one

but it has 4 hdmi but is also way over priced

[shrewd charm]

Meh they r going to get you somewhere i guess.

[ripe wedge]

I cant really find a gpu other than the gtx 1050 ti he found that is halfway decent... @shrewd charm

theres a gpu crisis rn

[drowsy thorn]

Hey hoping to get some help, because I have tried everything I have found on the web. I keep getting this blue screen after playing a game for a while.

Asus x570 plus wifi
Ryzen 7 3700x
Evga 2080 ftw3 ultra

[ripe wedge]

lol

[ripe wedge]

is it that same code every time?

[drowsy thorn]

I've tried using ddu to Uninstaller all drivers then reinstall them to the most updated one ( released 1.7.2021

Yes

And everything runs great for about 45-hour and a half. Then I get this.

[ripe wedge]

go to the search bar

and type in reliability

its the reliability monitor

[drowsy thorn]

Google search bar or?

[ripe wedge]

it shows all your crashes

windows search

[ripe wedge]

so next you can right click on the windows shut down one

[ripe wedge]

bluescreen 1000007e is the code

[shrewd charm]

Hit it really hard

[ripe wedge]

I honestly think it might just be the windows updates

my pc used to crash a ton because it would be randomly downloading windows updates while im gaming and it would miss something and crash my pc

[drowsy thorn]

Alex I'm about to.

[ripe wedge]

so try pausing your windows updates

[drowsy thorn]

So what should I do to fix that?

[shrewd charm]

Why you think I'm looking for a new computer lol

[ripe wedge]

maybe the old one was garbage?

lol

[drowsy thorn]

I found it.

[ripe wedge]

in settings u can pause updates by hitting pause for 7 days and u can spam it for about a month

[shrewd charm]

Boss didn't get me enough memory for all the cores

[ripe wedge]

I mean the memory has nothing to do with the actual cores

you could run a 32 core cpu with 4 gb of ram and it would run fine

[drowsy thorn]

This is a "new to me" pc. Everything seemed to work great then I switched cases and I've had issues ever since.

[ripe wedge]

yeah it might have been windows updates causing ur crashes.

[shrewd charm]

It does when you are fitting models in parallel doesn't get saved to storage until model is fit

[ripe wedge]

did u switch mobos too?

[drowsy thorn]

I appreciate the help I'll run it tomorrow and see what happens. If it persist is there a way to prevent them from happening?

[drowsy thorn]

No same hardware, just a different case

[ripe wedge]

the updates? just update ur pc like once a month and then pause

unless microsoft issues an emergency patch

then u might wanna update

[shrewd charm]

See if it'll run on linux

[drowsy thorn]

Well, I did change memory from 16 gb vengeance 3000mhz to dominator 32gb 4000mhz. But I have it set in bios to run 3600mhz

[ripe wedge]

oh it will

[ripe wedge]

that shouldnt affect it I dont think

[shrewd charm]

Then you can control updates or not

[ripe wedge]

also why not run it at 4000mhz

yeah

im learning linux rn in college

[drowsy thorn]

Because it's unstable at anything above that

[ripe wedge]

learning redhat linux

[ripe wedge]

strange

[drowsy thorn]

I'd love to. But something isn't letting it. It crashes on boot

[ripe wedge]

maybe its ur mobo

[shrewd charm]

Redhat is hard Pacman makes me think I'm playing a game

[ripe wedge]

lol

[drowsy thorn]

Perhaps. Any suggestions on a mobo that would handle it? I'm partial to asus, but open to suggestions. I am trying to go woth a mostly white build

[ripe wedge]

that mobo should be fine

its a higher end chipset

not sure why its unstable for u

[shrewd charm]

I just got a bit excited

[drowsy thorn]

I assumed it may be the 3700x

[ripe wedge]

seeing his setup?

the 3700x is unlikely but possible

[shrewd charm]

Ya like the pc lights and background very cool

[ripe wedge]

ill send a pic of my pc

[shrewd charm]

Ok

[drowsy thorn]

I appreciate that man. My first build. I'm hooked. I wanna build 1000 more now. And I'm always looking for more parts I can't really afford.lmao

[drowsy thorn]

Haha! My man! Like the green!

[ripe wedge]

thanks lol

[shrewd charm]

Nice

[ripe wedge]

I have a 10700k/ Aorus Master rtx 3080

big chonker 4 slot card

[shrewd charm]

Ur cpu has temp readout that's sweet

[drowsy thorn]

Curious is it possible that with my gpu running 2 8 pin pcie cables and my current PSU has them daisy chained it's causing the issue?

[ripe wedge]

o yeah, its usually not that high. that was while gaming

[drowsy thorn]

Thats the kracken z73

[ripe wedge]

actually quite possible

[drowsy thorn]

If I'm not mistaken

[ripe wedge]

try using separate cables

for each 8 pin

[shrewd charm]

I'd send pic but mine is just normal office computer lol

[ripe wedge]

lol

whats it have in it?

[drowsy thorn]

I have a semi modular. And not enough cables. Next purchase is going to be a 850 gold. Likely the thermal take pf1

[ripe wedge]

no god no

thermaltake makes awful psus

literal bombs

[drowsy thorn]

Really?

[ripe wedge]

same for gigabyte psus

[shrewd charm]

Have to look

[still roost]

billy88bob88#7086 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ripe wedge]

I mean they arnt all bombs but I wouldnt recommend TT

in general

id recommend the corsair RM850x or 750x

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

heres the psu tier list

its not 100% accurate but its pretty good

[shrewd charm]

That stuff

[ripe wedge]

thats perfectly fine

a i7 9700 is a pretty decent cpu

however no hyper threading

[drowsy thorn]

Hell yeah I appreciate the heads up. I know I'm a but crazy on the rgbs but I want that last thing to project light from underneath. I plan to get a white asus strix 3080 when they ever come back. That'll finish it off. We'll aside from a 5900x or 5950x

[ripe wedge]

whats the gpu on that alex

[shrewd charm]

Its going back to office need one for home i teach so split my time

[ripe wedge]

ah

[shrewd charm]

No gpu

[ripe wedge]

oh integrated oof

well that pc can be way more than an office pc I tell ya that

throw in a gpu and its a gaming machine

[shrewd charm]

Ya he built it to my specs jut cheaper out on memory could have gone in an 32 gb

[ripe wedge]

yep

[shrewd charm]

Not mine can't even install software

[ripe wedge]

you probably should get 64gb of ram

[shrewd charm]

Oh I asked

[ripe wedge]

whats the app called u use

I might be able to find recommended specs online

[shrewd charm]

Me R amongst others

[ripe wedge]

but I already know what would be good

[shrewd charm]

Its pretty much a coding language like python but built for stats

[ripe wedge]

yeah ive heard of R before

my friends dad works at microsoft and uses R

[shrewd charm]

Its usefull but want to learn python as well then ill be a guru lol

[ripe wedge]

so there isnt an actual program for it? you just use R to code yourself?

also I did python last semester

it isnt too too hard once you get the hang of it

[shrewd charm]

There is a consol on windows an you use it in terminal on Linux but I like a gui called RStudio

Ya I just need a reason to devote the time to learning it that my boss is cool w

[ripe wedge]

ah cool

I just googled it

[shrewd charm]

Ya its pretty ez to run on anything arcGis is a bit more involved but I try not to use it anyways

[ripe wedge]

did u know that Rstudio is set by default to use 1 core?

thats what I am reading online anyways

[shrewd charm]

Yup you have to change how u code

Tell it to use multiple cores

[ripe wedge]

ah

[shrewd charm]

Only worth the effort if fitting many models

My rig

Lol

See not enough monitors

[drowsy thorn]

I like the double verticals.

[shrewd charm]

Ya less scrolling prevents carpletunnel

[drowsy thorn]

Lmao. Curious what do youbuse the set up for

[shrewd charm]

Grad school so stats writing teaching

[drowsy thorn]

Oh well hell that makes sense.

[shrewd charm]

Yup this time last year all I had was 15 inch laptop that got old fast

[ripe wedge]

well sorry I disappeared for a bit but I think im heading to bed. I have a meeting at noon

@shrewd charm if u have any more questions or concerns just ask here

[shrewd charm]

Alright thanks for your help

Will do I'll make the decisions tomorrow and let you all know

[drowsy thorn]

I can imagine. I'm taking a website development class this semester. Too some psychology classes last year. I was working on a samsung tab so it was a biiiitch. Be much better now.

[drowsy thorn]

I appreciate the help man. Have a good night.

[shrewd charm]

Ya thats super hard never had much luck w tablets

[drowsy thorn]

Yea it sucked. I was looking at 17" laptops before this pc, then I kinda just dove in. It's been an accelerated learning curve to say the least. Lmao

[shrewd charm]

I bet but probably much better off now at least once u fix ur error

Well I've gotta crash as well good luck w ur computer

[drowsy thorn]

Good chatting with ya man. Have a good night

Whats what?

Oh it's pretty sweet. It's a pc building/parts server. Alot of cool people here to ask questions and get ideas for builds.

Not sure if I'll be able to help, as I am learning myself at this point but shoot.

[earnest olive]

lol facebook marketplace

[little osprey]

lmao

I had this card when I'm teenager lol

[earnest olive]

it's getting worse...

[little osprey]

maybe it's backed up 🤔

[drowsy thorn]

What was your question?

[little osprey]

lol idk theres lots of people xd

[glacial umbra]

im so lucky i got my 1070ti when i did

[still roost]

CH#6955 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glacial umbra]

oops

[little osprey]

I'll be 24 after a week xd

[glacial umbra]

what a poopy time to be in the market for a graphics card

[earnest olive]

i'm 22

how much did you pay for the 1070ti?

[drowsy thorn]

What do you mean it wiped everything?

[glacial umbra]

150 USD

[little osprey]

nice

[little osprey]

its almost free

[earnest olive]

150 usd for a 1070ti?

[glacial umbra]

yeah

[earnest olive]

lol

[little osprey]

free

[earnest olive]

i sold my 1060 for 175 recently

[glacial umbra]

zotac amp extreme card

[earnest olive]

hahahaha

[drowsy thorn]

What is everything? All your programs? You said your were on it no?

[earnest olive]

great price

[glacial umbra]

a top of the line model as well

yeah

dont regret it a bit

[earnest olive]

1070tis are going for like 280 right now

[glacial umbra]

maybe i should resell at a profit and buy a rx570 for used

[little osprey]

yeah I want to buy 1070 ti tho but its around 300 so i dont want to pay that much for old card

[glacial umbra]

yeah thats fair

the market right now has gone to hell

@vocal shoal You sure all you did was restart the laptop?

[little osprey]

no rx 570 is not better than 1070 xd

[earnest olive]

it's amazing seeing old cards selling for above msrp

[glacial umbra]

Did windows sign you in as a temporary user?

[drowsy thorn]

Thats what I'm wondering.

[earnest olive]

rx 570 is close to gtx 1050 ti

[glacial umbra]

Try booting into safe mode and then restarting again, you might be signed in as a temporary user.

Double check to make sure you didn't do something silly like hide a user profile.

Is every file gone completely?

[earnest olive]

1070ti is more than twice as powerful as rx 570

you sure you want to downgrade that much?

:d

[glacial umbra]

i'd be profitting though lol

probably won't downgrade

[earnest olive]

i went from a 1080ti to a 1060 for 5 months

it was painful

[glacial umbra]

sounds painful

[drowsy thorn]

How much are 2080 ultras going for?

[earnest olive]

umm

i think i saw a 2080 sell for $700 on hws recently

[glacial umbra]

this 1070ti is beautiful

i might try and overclock a bit more

[little osprey]

i want to buy 2060 or 3060 but theres non of them xd

[still roost]

billy88bob88#7086 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

1070ti and 2060 are pretty comparable

[glacial umbra]

i got a 200 boost clock and a +400 on the memory

[earnest olive]

similar raster perf, 1070ti has 2gb more vram, 2060 has dlss

[drowsy thorn]

Oh damn thats more than I thought

[earnest olive]

you can probably push the mem higher

my 1060 was able to do +1000 mem but optimal performance was at +700

[glacial umbra]

yeah for sure i had it turned down because it was coil whining earlier though

[little osprey]

yeah but 1070ti prices is high tho

[glacial umbra]

its seemingly disappeared for now though

[drowsy thorn]

Your kinda sus

[earnest olive]

have you checked which type of memory modules your gpu has?

like

hynix or samsung

samsung can usually oc higher

[glacial umbra]

nah ill look into now

[earnest olive]

you can see it in gpu-z

just look at which manufacturer it says in gpu-z

i find that non samsung can usually do +500 or so and samsung can usually do +700 or more but results may vary

also memory oc shouldn't be pushed to the absolute limit

[glacial umbra]

once nvida stops support 10 series drivers with drivers is when i upgrade

its perfect for 1080p high settings 😎

[earnest olive]

usually optimal performance is lower than maximum stable

because vram has error correcting

so you can get to a point where your vram is throwing enough errors to degrade performance but not enough to crash

[glacial umbra]

micron

[earnest olive]

micron isn't bad

i think my 1060 was micron and i was doing +700 on it

[glacial umbra]

nice

gonna try and overclock a bit more

brb

[earnest olive]

i don't remember what my 1080ti was

gddr6x is micron only

[little osprey]

overclock

[earnest olive]

so i know i have micron without needing to check gpu-z

[glacial umbra]

i can get 250 + 600 but with little to no performance boost

so im just gonna drop it a bit

[earnest olive]

+250?

what clock speed is that

my 1060 was only doing +140 but it was hitting almost 2.2ghz off that

[glacial umbra]

around 1940

i believe

[earnest olive]

hm

i feel like your card might just be power throttling before it can boost that high then

most cards won't do +250

in fact from my experience it's rare to even get +100

[glacial umbra]

yeah i dropped it again

im starting to see visual issues so memory is going back down to 600 and boost clock to 200

200 was stable before so im not too worried

[earnest olive]

1070 tis should be hitting 1873mhz or so at stock

so

[glacial umbra]

200 + 600 seems stable enough and its not diminishing returns

so ill probably keep it like that unless i see issues

[earnest olive]

to me it sounds like you'd benefit more from an undervolt than a flat oc

cause you're not actually getting +200

my 3080 clocks higher from undervolt than flat oc

[whole oak]

i just want to make sure my amd 7 3800x 8 core will fit on the b550m steel legend motherboard right ?

[whole oak]

what is cas latency ?

[oak elbow]

@sullen plover what is your case

[whole oak]

my case ?

CORSAIR iCUE 220T RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case, White (CC-9011191-WW)

[oak elbow]

No

[oak elbow]

Sorry not you

[whole oak]

o ok lol sorry

[oak elbow]

@sullen plover bless call me ok 👍

[sullen plover]

Its the lian-li

[oak elbow]

Hi

@sullen plover what is your case

[sullen plover]

Its „lian-li 011“ or something

[languid nimbus]

[frail prairie]

i have an okay pc but it only had like 300 megabites storage so im getting a new hard drive so it has more space is that the best aproach

[zealous edge]

300MB?!?!

[little osprey]

rip

[wanton cliff]

i hope thats a troll

300 megabytes is literally not enough for anything these days

maybe one or two 1080p videos but thats all

[zealous edge]

Lol fr

[little osprey]

even a 720p video of 10mins takes like 150mb

[stoic island]

windows 10 takes like

40gb fresh install?

[gleaming quartz]

yeah lol

[zealous edge]

Yea around that

Lol

[little osprey]

though he mean't like...300mb of storage left
i guess

[strong knoll]

@proven torrent what wallpaper is that called? is it on wallpaper engine?

[wanton cliff]

what are you referring to?

[strong knoll]

me? if so the pic in build pics

[tepid wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pkWnMv

[muted patio]

SLow ram and bad power supply. "[2] Seasonic S12III, S12II EVO and A12 - OCP (on any rails) not claimed, nor present in supervisor IC, neither does 12V UVP/OVP. No reviews to prove otherwise."

Try for 3600 ram and maybe a Corsair CX or Montech PSU

[tepid wind]

entry level

[muted patio]

Lol, I understand

[tepid wind]

ENTRY LEVEL AMD GAMING

[muted patio]

If you want the PSU to burn up, go ahead

[tepid wind]

is the pc good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m3K7wz

its from the build guides

[muted patio]

I just told you

the power supply is no good

[tepid wind]

ok and?

what do you want me to chnge it to

[muted patio]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[tepid wind]

no

i dont have 900 dollars

[muted patio]

I see, you didn't even look

[tepid wind]

yea the 3600 costs 15 dollars more,

[muted patio]

I didn't say anything about 3600

[tepid wind]

oh wait

no lol

you said rram not cpu

[muted patio]

You also have two different builds

[tepid wind]

huh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hRnsPV

zis better/

hell no this cost 923 dollars

[muted patio]

Honestly, if you're looking at the 3600, go I5 10400 instead. more FPS, less money

[tepid wind]

NOOOO

ANYTHING BUT INTEl

[wanton cliff]

Remember when the 3600 was the best bang-for-buck CPU?

[tepid wind]

NO INTEl

[wanton cliff]

those were the days

[muted patio]

Your loss

[wanton cliff]

why?

literally no reason not to

[tepid wind]

because

[muted patio]

Literally more performance for less money

[tepid wind]

i dont want intel

noooo

nonoonono

[wanton cliff]

care to explain why?

[tepid wind]

you cant change my mind im amd fanboy

[wanton cliff]

thats mighty unfortunate for everyone involved here

the CPU hierarchy changes nearly every generation

[tepid wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/vydnTW/great-amd-gaming-build#compatibility_notes

is this one good

[wanton cliff]

10400 is currently better than 3600, so its your loss

[vapid bay]

lol

[wanton cliff]

not really, no

[tepid wind]

bruh whatever i show therees always a probelm

whats the problem with it now

[wanton cliff]

it expects you to pay $700 for a 5700XT

has a SSD ive never heard of before

mobo im not a fan of

no cooler

and a small PSU

[tepid wind]

tbh i can buy a 1 tb ssd for cheaper

[wanton cliff]

true

M.2 as well

[balmy patio]

for that price you can get a 3600 with a 3070 or 6800

[tepid wind]

and it doesnt need a cooler

[balmy patio]

maybe even cheaper

[tepid wind]

ryzen 5 comes with cooler

[wanton cliff]

there is a difference between need and want

[tepid wind]

THATS WHY ITS MORE EXPENSIVE THEN YOUR INTEL

[wanton cliff]

the 3600 stock cooler is ok, but its not great

[muted patio]

intel has cooler also

[tepid wind]

idc

[muted patio]

🤷

[tepid wind]

oh then f

[balmy patio]

intel's cooler just looks trash smh

[wanton cliff]

performs bad too

if this was a Ryzen 7 build I wouldnt complain about it but the 3600's stock cooler aint great

[muted patio]

Can get aftermarket cooler for still less than AMD XD

[wanton cliff]

even a 212 would be good

[muted patio]

Nah

[balmy patio]

amd fanboys are crying rn

[muted patio]

Gammax 400

$25 and better than 212

[wanton cliff]

and then there is the PSU and Mobo

and SSD

and GPU...

[hollow grail]

lol

[balmy patio]

fricking gpu prices

makes a $600 price range build be 800 bucks smh

[fossil halo]

not if u go used

[left onyx]

I need help. I am getting a 420mm aio for my cpu and I was wondering if I should use the 140mm fans that come with the aio or the 140 mm fans that come with the case? Here’s my build with specs. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dkP2ZZ

[muted patio]

Use the fans that come with the AIO

[balmy patio]

😳

[hollow grail]

dont use that hdd

[left onyx]

Why?

[hollow grail]

or that ssd tbh

[tepid wind]

Would i go for a 1660 super for 600 dollarsr

[left onyx]

Why? Lmao

[hollow grail]

can get p31 gold 1tb for a bit more

outperforms 90% of gen4 drives where it actually matters

[left onyx]

That hdd is really good though

[hollow grail]

and that hdd is awful

[balmy patio]

storage woman has spoken

[little osprey]

hell nouu

[muted patio]

That motherboard also won't work

[hollow grail]

source: hdds are my whole thing

[tepid wind]

ok

[muted patio]

No BIOS flashback for 5000 series

[wanton cliff]

someone offered me $700 for my GPU yesterday. You lie. 5700xt btw.

[hollow grail]

and she was gonna sell it for 350 to mando before i intervened

[muted patio]

Really high failure rate and also, don't use that motherboard. It has no flashback to make the 5000 series work

[balmy patio]

take the offer and buy a 3080 smh

[left onyx]

No it’ll work. Just need to update the bios.

[hollow grail]

and smr

[muted patio]

You can't update the BIOS with no CPU LOL

[hollow grail]

youd need another amd cpu to update bios

[muted patio]

Yo uneed a board with BIOS Flashback

[balmy patio]

doesn't amd give out update kits, or do they not do that anymore

[wanton cliff]

im going to, just need to replace thermal pads and paste first.

[left onyx]

Ah gotcha.

[hollow grail]

or dont

fr just sell it

[wanton cliff]

i listed it as seller refurbished, i pretty much have to

[hollow grail]

no u dont

[left onyx]

What board should I use then? Also what hdd should I use?

[hollow grail]

seller refurbished just means u look at it and it works

[wanton cliff]

WD Blue

[wanton cliff]

oh lol

[hollow grail]

source: have sold on ebay forever

[hollow grail]

ssd: hynix p31 gold hdd: 2tb wd blue or 4tb toshiba x300

[wanton cliff]

tfw popping in headphones

[left onyx]

Ok what about mobo

[hollow grail]

idk ask vintage

im just the storage person

[muted patio]

Similar price range with flashback https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TUF-X570-PRO-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B08JWMPVD9

[little osprey]

asus boards 👍

[left onyx]

Had that one in my list but it doesn’t come in white kekw

[little osprey]

or b550 aorus pro

[left onyx]

No

[little osprey]

it also have flashback i think

[left onyx]

B550 yuck

[muted patio]

Gotta be carefull with B550 and 5900

WDYM yuck

[left onyx]

For 5900

[little osprey]

oh for 5900 yeah 😂

[left onyx]

Vintage do you have any ideas about a white mobo that has the flashback? Where do I look to see if it has flashback

[balmy patio]

it doesn't really make a difference what cpu you get with what chipset

[muted patio]

You have no idea how hard that requirement is

I'm looking

[balmy patio]

tbh a 5900x would just run on an a520 chipset if i found one that could

[muted patio]

The chipset itself? no, but the VRM matters for 5900

[little osprey]

lol why white mobo 🤔

[left onyx]

White build kek

Card isn’t white so I’ve gotta make up for it

Aesthetics yk

[wanton cliff]

Sapphire makes good cards in white

AMD cards tho

[balmy patio]

there's the vision d lineup as well

[left onyx]

Bro do you know how hard it is to get cards

[wanton cliff]

yes

[left onyx]

This is the only card I could lock down and it’s being delivered rn

[wanton cliff]

i have been trying to get one since october

[balmy patio]

@left onyx there's this in white and it offers bios flashback, looks nice imo https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y96qqs/asus-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming

[wanton cliff]

I was offering a suggestion for a card. No need to be an ass about it.

[balmy patio]

sorry if your feelings for x570 chipset are still present

[muted patio]

Tier III VRM

NOt recommended

[balmy patio]

frick but it looks nice

[muted patio]

Should be Tier II or higher

[left onyx]

Yeah the whole problem with b550 is that you sacrifice some abilities from what I know

[muted patio]

Nothing more than the second NVME slot is gen 3 instead of 4

That's literally it

[balmy patio]

prob less sata ports as well

@muted patio is there a graph that shows the tiers of vrm's?

[muted patio]

This is a really good B550 board that's white

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-B550-Vision-3xPCIe-Motherboard/dp/B08C9GJ49M

x570 is gonna be $$$

LIke, $400

[little osprey]

I only seen asus x570 pro as white x570 xd

[left onyx]

Will I sacrifice any performance?

[muted patio]

No

[left onyx]

K thanks bro

[fossil halo]

full white mobo u only get nzxt z490

[muted patio]

i mean, unless your're using the third PCI-E slot

no reason to avoid B550

[fossil halo]

and i think the new aorus z590 watercooling thing

but thats like 1800$ iirc 😂

[left onyx]

Top slot is for gen 4 right

[little leaf]

for z490?

or b550

[left onyx]

The mobo link he posted

[balmy patio]

ye

[left onyx]

Aight

We’re set

[muted patio]

M2A_CPU is gen 4

not sure what slot it is

[left onyx]

Yike

[muted patio]

I think it's the top one

[left onyx]

Anyone a fan fiend I can talk to

[muted patio]

because B is gen 3

[left onyx]

I’d think so

[muted patio]

Yeah top slot is gen 4

[left onyx]

Nice

[muted patio]

Motherboard feature and VRM quality list

Quite comprehensive

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

[balmy patio]

thx

[left onyx]

I’m so exited for my build

[balmy patio]

man that board has other cool things to it

i thought it was just white for the aesthetics

[left onyx]

😂

Seems like a monster

[muted patio]

White is honestly a PITA. Have to give up or go around so many things

[balmy patio]

a black build is so much easier smh

[left onyx]

How many gb for ssd?

[left onyx]

Yeah but I think this build is pretty nice. I’m exited

[hollow grail]

i like 1tb ssds for higher end builds

[left onyx]

Gotcha

[hollow grail]

and generally my rule is for every 500gb of ssd you have

you want 2tb of hdd

[muted patio]

The price premium for white is kinda silly tho

[hollow grail]

so id go 1tb p31 gold and 4tb toshiba x300

[still roost]

At1as#2102 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[left onyx]

Oh

I talk like that kek

[hollow grail]

yea no curse here

[left onyx]

Rip

[hollow grail]

[left onyx]

I don’t have that much money

[tepid wind]

idk this better?

[left onyx]

That’ll be pushing my budget hard

[balmy patio]

rip

[tepid wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B3X9Xb

[left onyx]

I think 500 gb ssd and 2tb hdd will do me ok. I can always upgrade later.

[balmy patio]

what's the budget you're aiming for?

[tepid wind]

uh 1200

probably

[balmy patio]

ight

[tepid wind]

or 800

[balmy patio]

with 1200 you can get much better stuff

[tepid wind]

show me

[hollow grail]

512gb p31 gold and 2tb wd blue then

[balmy patio]

bet

[tepid wind]

just dont change cpu

[hollow grail]

and cloning is a pain

so

[left onyx]

Gotcha

[hollow grail]

idk i just tell people to get good storage from the beginning

[left onyx]

Yeah thanks

[left onyx]

Better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqMGt8

[hollow grail]

yea babey

[left onyx]

Litttyyyyy

[hollow grail]

fr id consider getting 1tb and 4tb though

its like $100 more in total

[left onyx]

I’ll see

[tepid wind]

100 is alot

of money

[left onyx]

Yeah

[hollow grail]

so is that entire build

so

no reason to bottleneck it with not enough storage

[left onyx]

Yes entire build pog

Gotcha

[tepid wind]

this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/qzLrxr/modest-amd-gaming-build

[left onyx]

I barely filled half of my 1tb hdd and completely filled my 500gb ssd in my current build so I’ll do ok

This builds gonna be sexy I’m so excited bro

[balmy patio]

with 1200 bucks, this is what i'll get, you can cheap out on ram and get 3200cl16 and with storage, you can just get a 500gb nvme drive as your sole drive, for the case, i don't care, i would honestly go intel but you insisted on amd so there you go

and with the psu, you'd be fine with sum like a 600w br

[tepid wind]

can you edit it to your thing, but without intel?

[balmy patio]

i did do it without intel

i'll do one with intel now

[tepid wind]

did you send me part list?

[balmy patio]

oh frick

i forgot

[wanton cliff]

I dont much like the quality of br

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jmz8y4

there

[tepid wind]

thanks

[wanton cliff]

much better off with an RMx or Focus Gold

or AMP

[tepid wind]

ehhh

i need a wifi motherboard

550

[balmy patio]

same, but if saving money were the case, then i'd slap on the br and hope for the best

[wanton cliff]

no you dont

just get a PCIe wifi thing

[balmy patio]

get a wifi card or sum

[tepid wind]

nah

[balmy patio]

why not?

[wanton cliff]

uhhhh why

it literally installs just like a graphics card, and is much faster and usually cheaper than a wifi mobo

and easier to find

not eternally sold out or price gouged

[balmy patio]

if you're set on a wifi mobo, get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi , but i wouldn't buy a motherboard just because it has wifi

[wanton cliff]

Stephan Entienne

"we picked this motherboard because it has wifi and bluetooth built in"

[balmy patio]

lmao

[wanton cliff]

I love how infamous that video has become

"How my engrish better den his?"

-Lyle

[balmy patio]

man that video where he was looking at the verge's pc build guide

my favorite video of all time

[wanton cliff]

same

"My famery in China cry at how he handle product"

"Dat not a little thermal paste, dat thermal paste bukakke"

Stephan: And we posted!

Lyle: Dat de biggest suprise in dis whole video!

[balmy patio]

"he's not fighting static, he's fighting cancer"

istg i always come back to that video every few weeks

boy i can't wait to use some tweezers to tight up some wires in my build

[gleaming quartz]

whats the video lol

[wanton cliff]

Bitwit reacts to verge pc build

[gleaming quartz]

ah ok

[balmy patio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmQOO4WLI4

[gleaming quartz]

its too good

[little osprey]

lmao

ive seen that vid

[wanton cliff]

its good

[little osprey]

lmao its thermal paste, not cake frosting

idk why he gotta spread it around like it

[still roost]

Komm, süßer Tod#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton cliff]

oop that word is banned lol

[little osprey]

lmao

[small osprey]

hmmmmm

[cyan stone]

What word?

[wanton cliff]

obviously I can't say

[balmy patio]

smh

[deft leaf]

My 3080 vision white seems to stay below 10% usage in most games I’ve benched (Cod, red dead, gta) And while I don’t have much experience with gaming PCs, I think I’m getting an oddly low frame rate and occasional screen tear. Any ideas on why this may be? It isn’t crashing or stuttering for the most part and does well under lighter loads. It’s paired with a 5900x.

[muted patio]

Using Task manager?

Don't, it doesn't work right for GPU's

Use GPU-Z or something

To see GPU load

Or HWINFO64

[deft leaf]

Oh, alright. I never knew. Thanks for the relevant info.

[muted patio]

YW

Task manager says my 3070 is 0% in Cyberpunk lol

[deft leaf]

I’ll test it with GPU-Z, have the file on my desktop.

[wanton cliff]

cyberpunk broke your 3070

[muted patio]

XD

Nah, just task manger

[shrewd charm]

Hey so bout to pull the trigger on that PC build you guys recommended yesterday. Changed the case here is the list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MZKJqp

[wanton cliff]

who recommended this to you?

also no, that is the worst possible case you can buy

[shrewd charm]

Vintage but he recommended a different case. What is wrong w that case

[wanton cliff]

amazingly bad airflow

also no SSD?

this is going to be used for gaming im guessing?

[restive nebula]

y so much ram

get cheeper not as overpriced ram

and spend on ssd

the money is just so misspent on this build

[wanton cliff]

now hold on

you dont know what he is doing with this build

[restive nebula]

h510 has bad airflow

[wanton cliff]

he could be doing massive amounts of modeling or editing hours of 4k footage

[wanton cliff]

I said that already

[shrewd charm]

Yes statistical modeling no gamming

[wanton cliff]

thats what I guessed

[restive nebula]

1050ti

y trident z royal

[wanton cliff]

statistical modeling doesnt utilize a GPU

[restive nebula]

acc 1050ti is price

at that point

but y trident z royal

u can use that money on an ssd

[shrewd charm]

Memory is more important to me than storage when fitting models

[restive nebula]

yes

but u got over priced memory

u could get better memory for cheeper

royal is just overpriced

[wanton cliff]

its actually pretty well priced

[restive nebula]

i dont think so

[shrewd charm]

Case Recommendation would like type-c? idk how to know also not necessary just preference

[wanton cliff]

32 gigs for 120 is damn good IMO

[wanton cliff]

P300, or P400a

TD500 is good too

[shrewd charm]

?

[wanton cliff]

Meshify C

[muted patio]

This guy needs RAM for GEO rendering

They've used 128 GB before

Thi sis why I didn't use an SSD to maximize RAM qty

[wanton cliff]

ah

makes sense

I would still get an SSD just for windows boot even if its only 200gb

but if it isnt going to be utilized much I could understand why it's left out

[restive nebula]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zZmfRT

this the build i own

except i got 3070 for msrp

[shrewd charm]

Think i have ssd too

[muted patio]

No just an HDD

I had a different case last night

MB311 or something?

Yeah this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ggJvvf

You could get an SSD but that puts you a tad over $900

[shrewd charm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XfBgK3

[muted patio]

That works

[uncut pelican]

Sup

[shrewd charm]

Changed case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xjVdt8

Deepcool CL500 ATX Mid Tower Case

[uncut pelican]

Wait if you get a b460 doesn't it only support 2666mhz ram

[shrewd charm]

? IDK no warnings poped up

[wanton cliff]

thats fine i think

[wanton cliff]

doesnt matter what it supports, it still benefits

10600 only supports 3000mhz iirc

[muted patio]

That mobo out of stock now anyway

[uncut pelican]

Fair wnougb

*enough

[severe axle]

@uncut pelican why did you choose a dramless ssd

[uncut pelican]

Because it was on sale and it goes brr

Its a very good ssd

[severe axle]

how much did you buy it for

[muted patio]

UNless they made changes it's better than an HDD but not great https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crucial-p2-m-2-nvme-ssd/2

[severe axle]

mp34 for like $10 more

[shrewd charm]

Well just made the buy anyways the monitor I wanted kept going out of stock but did get the motherboard

[uncut pelican]

80

Its an amazing ssd

[severe axle]

meh, still faster than sata

has no dram though

its fine for budget nvme

[shrewd charm]

I think i'm happy with it

[hollow grail]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

[shrewd charm]

lol

The CPU comes wit a thermal beddng compound right? Do I need any special tools for assemble

[ripe wedge]

the cooler should

@shrewd charm all u need is a phillips screwdriver

p2 bad

[hollow grail]

p2 GRONSE

[ripe wedge]

agreed

[hollow grail]

literal grose ssd

[shrewd charm]

Cool

[ripe wedge]

kinda sad tho that you will be using a k chip with a locked mobo

[shrewd charm]

Prob not going to over clock nething anyways want stuff to last longer

[calm dove]

@shrewd charm how much is the i5 10400f ?

i think there is no big difference

[uncut pelican]

Doubt me all you want

[pliant lake]

$165

[calm dove]

gtx 1050 ti not worth it

[hollow grail]

i am literally the storage person so i think i will

its all i do here

[uncut pelican]

. . .

[ripe wedge]

the 1050ti is because he needs enough ports for 3 monitors and thats the only halfway decent card that is cheaper

[uncut pelican]

When did you join this server @hollow grail

[hollow grail]

idk few months ago

[uncut pelican]

samsies

[hollow grail]

p2 garbage tier drive tho

[shrewd charm]

lol you all trying to make me have buyers remorse>

?

[calm dove]

rx 570 8gb/old gtx 980 ti ?

[uncut pelican]

Dang the toxicity has gone up a ton

[severe axle]

no its simply just a bad drive

[hollow grail]

nah i just tell people not to buy bad hardware

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-helix-l-1tb/p/N82E16820226899

this kills the p2 for around same price

[uncut pelican]

Please don't jusge my money decisions :)

[hollow grail]

i just did and will continue to do so

[shrewd charm]

Lol I'm happy w it as long as I don't brick it in assembly

[uncut pelican]

It ain't your job tho

[hollow grail]

i dont care about what goes into your build, its your money

but its not a good drive

and I dont want other people here buying it instead of actually viable options

[uncut pelican]

I just went off of research idk what to tell you

[hollow grail]

you did your research wrong then

idk what to tell you

i mean the drive works and all

i just dont advise anyone to buy one

[uncut pelican]

Omg just stop I spent months saving for this build I don't want to hear it

[hollow grail]

ok?

im not trashing your build

[uncut pelican]

Ok sorry for the attitude

I did just buy a wd 500gb

Those bad?

[hollow grail]

is it the blue?

sata or nvme?

[uncut pelican]

Blue nvme

[hollow grail]

its okay yeah

[uncut pelican]

I was gonna go with a samsung evo

[hollow grail]

that would have been the better choice

or a sn750

[calm dove]

i have an hdd

+60.000 hours

hhhhhh

[hollow grail]

but the blue is serviceable

itll be faster than your p1

[uncut pelican]

Ok I changed it to a samsung

[hollow grail]

p2*

970 evo correct?

just making sure

[uncut pelican]

Yuppers

[hollow grail]

yeah thats a solid drive

up there with sn750 and p31 gold

[uncut pelican]

Alr nice

Where is my read your manuals guy

Huh must have left

[hollow grail]

nah hes here

[uncut pelican]

:O

[hollow grail]

@stoic island ha nerd

[uncut pelican]

: D

[hollow grail]

:)))))

hes a nice person lol

[uncut pelican]

Wonder what level hes at now lol