building-and-recc-chat

[eager flower]

I would assume worse but its also ASUS vs zotac

[jagged ember]

But that's the meme

IDK actually

[civic tusk]

3070 is technically better always

[eager flower]

Zotac what

better or worse lol

but its zotac

[civic tusk]

But zotac ain't a good model

[jagged ember]

Is twin edge good model?

[eager flower]

My zotac has a decent die, whereas the asus could be much better

[jagged ember]

Who is resident gpu expert

[eager flower]

Like

somewhat me lol

[still roost]

Hursty#4214 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[civic tusk]

Woops

[eager flower]

I would just assume if I OC'd the 3060ti it would be better

but my Zotac die isn't bad

[civic tusk]

Yeah zotac twin edge has a pretty bad cooler iirc and pretty bad sleeve bearing fans

[eager flower]

Cooler on the 3070 isn't bad at all

It doesn't get above 69 on full load

[civic tusk]

That's why I said iirc

Still uses sleeve bearing fans though

Which isn't preferable

Also what's the noise normalised performance of the twin edge

[eager flower]

No noise

[civic tusk]

I thought it wasn't that impressive but could be wrong

[jagged ember]

69

Nice

I get 65 on a fullscreen native res furmark run

[eager flower]

I personally don't notice any noise from it, but my other fans have a silent hum which might cover over it

[hazy rune]

My 3070 FE hits 77/78

[jagged ember]

But I have 2070s

[civic tusk]

One of the loudest cards in this chart

But 35dba is still pretty quiet

[eager flower]

I don't notice it at all regardless

[hazy rune]

38C at fan stop lol

[eager flower]

I remember reading it as a loud card though

[hazy rune]

My card is so much hotter than that

[eager flower]

and just didn't care

[hollow grail]

z tac

[civic tusk]

Still think the tuf if the best model closest to msrp

When it actually is

[hazy rune]

Yes

[winged tinsel]

Can someone help me figure out why Java isn’t working on my new computer?

[jagged ember]

https://c.tenor.com/b16XxGNxvV4AAAAM/zotac-3080.gif

[hollow grail]

java

[jagged ember]

Reinstall java

[hollow grail]

did u install it properly

[eager flower]

Java is a 🐶

[winged tinsel]

I have reinstalled it like 100 times

[eager flower]

Java never installs properly

[hazy rune]

Are you getting any error

[jagged ember]

True tho

[hollow grail]

java has installed perfectly 100% of the time for me

but i deploy it

[jagged ember]

It's fine for me

[hollow grail]

i dont install like some knuckle dragger

[winged tinsel]

I’ve tried all the different tiles from offline to 32 and 64 bit

[jagged ember]

But seen ppl have many problems

[eager flower]

Type in command prompt java --version

[hazy rune]

@winged tinsel What error are you getting?

[eager flower]

whats the error

[winged tinsel]

No error, it just seems to install fine but then won’t help me install any files at all

[jagged ember]

Wat

[hollow grail]

what are you installing

[winged tinsel]

.jar files

[jagged ember]

So you install java and run your jar files

[winged tinsel]

It doesn’t even show up as a default app to install any files

[eager flower]

Is it a minecraft server by any chance

[jagged ember]

Right?

[hollow grail]

just run as

it doesnt show up as default regardless

[hazy rune]

What lili said

[winged tinsel]

I try

[hollow grail]

i helped someone with this before and its just people doing it wrong

[winged tinsel]

It doesn’t work

[hollow grail]

[jagged ember]

What are you running

[winged tinsel]

It works just fine when installed on my laptop

[hollow grail]

literally double click it and youll get a prompt saying do u want to open this with java

[jagged ember]

Like what they supposed to do

[eager flower]

https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/setting-the-java_home-variable-in-windows-8895.html I had to do this to fix it on my laptop

[hollow grail]

so far im learning that not deploying programs rly sucks

[winged tinsel]

Yeah that’s the problem. It just doesn’t show up anywhere

[jagged ember]

Well okay it seems like you gotta find where the file is first to run it

[winged tinsel]

Like run the Java installation file??

[muted patio]

Did you reboot after installing Java/

[winged tinsel]

I did not

[jagged ember]

Hm

[muted patio]

Reboot after java install

[jagged ember]

You're supposed to

[eager flower]

go to

omg

[jagged ember]

I just assumed you did that

[winged tinsel]

Java shows up in the control panel just nowhere else

[eager flower]

so did I

ok reboot first

[jagged ember]

Gotta restart

[winged tinsel]

So just reboot as in turn my pc off then on?

[eager flower]

If it still doesn't work go to this path: C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_271\bin and select javaw.exe

yes just restart

[muted patio]

Also, if this is for Minecraft, a good portion of the .jar files just go into the mods folder and don't need to be run

Windows Icon - Power - Restart

[jagged ember]

If it's a server you need a server wrapper

Like mcss

[hollow grail]

never assume when ur helping people with stuff here

[jagged ember]

Or else you gotta do it all in cmd

[eager flower]

Good point

[jagged ember]

Thanks, lili

Will remember

[eager flower]

The amount of times people plug their hdmi into their mobo instead of their gpu

without an iGPU

[hollow grail]

yeah lmao

[jagged ember]

I mean it's really there

So naturally ppl wanna use it

[small osprey]

kek

[hollow grail]

people just need some extra guidance sometimes

[jagged ember]

I remember what I needed to do

[eager flower]

the mobo would make sense

[jagged ember]

Brb

[eager flower]

but its not

I need to drive to microcener in the snow

and I havent drove for a month or two oopsie

[hollow grail]

i just dont drive

[jagged ember]

Is like riding bike

[jagged ember]

Except it's motorized and weighs a lot

[eager flower]

I need the 3060ti tell me when its opening smh

[hollow grail]

knowing me id prolly hit someone riding a bike

[jagged ember]

Ur danger

[hollow grail]

true

[jagged ember]

Everyone run when lili gets on bike lol

[hollow grail]

i want more food

[eager flower]

bou tta cop

[hollow grail]

do i ask for more food

[jagged ember]

Uhh

Ebegging?

[eager flower]

ebegging?

[hollow grail]

[jagged ember]

[eager flower]

im buying for myself what

lol

[jagged ember]

All is ebegging

[hollow grail]

true

i want a shake

i mean i want 2 shakes

but a shake is also ok

[jagged ember]

Handshake?

That's illegal

[hollow grail]

drink kind

sadly

[jagged ember]

Social distance pls

Lol

[hollow grail]

i havent had physical contact in a WHILE

im gonna ask one of my subs to buy me lunch today i think

[jagged ember]

Ha

It's not ebegging then

It's an edemand

[winged tinsel]

Restarting didn’t work so I began to do this, but Java doesn’t show up in program files

[hollow grail]

actually laughed

[eager flower]

java just isnt installed

[jagged ember]

If a streamer or youtuber asks something

It's not a beg

It's always a demand

[hollow grail]

oh its uh

not that kind of sub

[jagged ember]

The subs must obey

[hollow grail]

[jagged ember]

Ohh

No no youtube subs

But also the other way works too

;)

[winged tinsel]

Java shows up on the windows control panel as installed though, this is why I’m confused

[hollow grail]

[hollow grail]

what are u trying to run

[winged tinsel]

I’m trying to install .jar files

[hollow grail]

and @jagged ember i WANT

[jagged ember]

Yoo

Now I want

That looks goood

[hollow grail]

open cmd run javac -version

checks java compiler version

[wicked frigate]

@wanton cliff

[hollow grail]

java -version checks normal java

[wicked frigate]

That pops up

[muted patio]

What JAR files? maybe they aren't installable? SOme aren't.

[eager flower]

nvm no 3060ti today

[hollow grail]

if this shows up congrats java is working perfectly

[hollow grail]

yep

[jagged ember]

Only jar files I ever run are optifine lol

[hollow grail]

one of my siterippers is java for some reason lul

[winged tinsel]

They are files that I installed just fine with Java on my old pc

[wicked frigate]

Are those good settings

Anyone

[winged tinsel]

How do I do that?

[hollow grail]

why the hell are you running windows 8

[jagged ember]

No clue

Also yeah win 8

[hollow grail]

open cmd

and then type

[wicked frigate]

Because this is an old school c

Pc

[hollow grail]

java -version

and then hit enter

[wise nebula]

Just getting a black sod when booting up my pc

[hollow grail]

and if it looks like my screenshot then java is fine

[jagged ember]

No need run as admin?

[hollow grail]

nope

[jagged ember]

Hm

Cool

[wicked frigate]

@wanton cliff u there

[hollow grail]

just a basic command

[wicked frigate]

Or @hollow grail

Can u help me

[hollow grail]

shes sleeping i think @wicked frigate

[wicked frigate]

K

[jagged ember]

I'd just actually test settings

[wicked frigate]

Can u help me

[jagged ember]

Is how I know nice settings for obs recording

[hollow grail]

what do you need help with?

[wicked frigate]

Why does keep on popping up

The limited

Ethernet

[jagged ember]

That means it's a metered connection right?

Or set as one

[hollow grail]

it just means your network isnt set up

[wicked frigate]

Wut

[jagged ember]

Oh lol

[hollow grail]

properly that is

[jagged ember]

I'm dum

[wicked frigate]

How do I fix it

[hollow grail]

and after dealing with networking problems at work

im not touching anything network related for free

[muted patio]

Processor and motherboard are 20 years old, it's gonna do weird stuff

[hollow grail]

that too

[muted patio]

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-A-Series A6-3650 AD3650WNZ43GX (AD3650WNGXBOX).html

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[muted patio]

FM1 socket

[wicked frigate]

Lol

I am waiting for my parts to come in

[jagged ember]

Yeah IDK much about old old stuff

[wicked frigate]

So I am using this for rn

Lol

[jagged ember]

Can't help at all

[wise nebula]

I'm getting a black screen of death when I turn on my pc

[hollow grail]

sucks

[jagged ember]

Wasn't it after a windows update

[muted patio]

May not even be windows 8 drivers for it

[hollow grail]

just roll back to an earlier version

[hollow grail]

this is the most likely thing

[jagged ember]

Or boot in safe mode and uninstall update

[hollow grail]

and also it shows that you have wifi like

right there

just do that?????

[wise nebula]

Eugh

[wicked frigate]

Are u talking to me?

[hollow grail]

yes lmao

[jagged ember]

Me no

[hollow grail]

does it work in safe mode

[wise nebula]

What's the hotkey for a gigabyte mobo

[wicked frigate]

Is there a way to fix it ??

[jagged ember]

I'd just boot from windows media image

And enter safe mode that way

[wicked frigate]

How do i do that

[jagged ember]

https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10/

[hollow grail]

fix what?

[muted patio]

It's not W10 lol

It's W8, I think they're different

[wicked frigate]

The problem

[hollow grail]

wait wiseus ur confused

wideus

[jagged ember]

You boot into safe mode and uninstall the update

[hollow grail]

hold on everyone stfu

[jagged ember]

Okay

[hollow grail]

wideus you are helping @wise nebula

with their windows update issue

to clarify for all parties involved lol

i saw vintage also getting confused lmao

[jagged ember]

@wise nebula https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10/

There

[hollow grail]

@wicked frigate there is no problem, use wifi

it shows up as working so use that until the new pc is here

[wicked frigate]

My WiFi isn’t stronge in my room

Strong

[hollow grail]

well youre using an EOL os on EOL hardware

[wicked frigate]

Wut that

[hollow grail]

i dont know what to tell you lmao

[wicked frigate]

So I can’t fix it

??

[hollow grail]

youd need to find the driver for the NIC and install it that way

[wicked frigate]

How do I do that

It even says that on my WiFi

Limited

But I can still use things with internet

On other devices we

@hollow grail

How do I do that

??

What’s this

[muted patio]

Yup, that

[wicked frigate]

What

What do I do

Do I click finish

@muted patio

Should I do this

Or is that useless

[muted patio]

install whatever it asks you to

[wicked frigate]

So should I do the Java thing

I just to break this pc it was working yesterday

Ok I guess cya

[wanton cliff]

This statement was correct

[muted patio]

I said, install everything it tells you to

[hollow grail]

what can i say my brain is fat

[muted patio]

Wrong channel

[little osprey]

huh

[muted patio]

Old troll is old, we have a console channel

[hollow grail]

they seem under 13 idk abt old

inb4 banned for

[wet furnace]

I ordered a motherboard and it was supposed to be here 2 days ago

its been like that since friday morning
and idk if the package is lost

[hollow grail]

just wait

[muted patio]

With how many people are ordering things and the current situation, packages get delayed all the time

Normal

[wet furnace]

its an hour away from me of where the package is located

I could probably pick it up

but idk

[wanton cliff]

I would go do that if you can

[wet furnace]

how late do you think I'll have to wait for it to be delivered

I was trying to build my pc this weekend

but ig its too late

[wanton cliff]

Depends

Could be a day, could be a week, could be a month

[hollow grail]

id just wair

wait

lmao shut up daughter

itll get there in under a week im guessing

at the worst like5 days

[still tundra]

hey @hollow grail it works

this is @wicked frigate

but onh my pc

the Ethernet works

[wanton cliff]

Lit

Speed?

Via speedtest.net?

[still tundra]

ohhhhhhhhhh hiii

i need your help

[wanton cliff]

Course ya do

Do a speedtest first

[still tundra]

wait let me hop on my other accont

[wicked frigate]

@wanton cliff hi

So do you know why this is popping up

See

But idk how it works

[wanton cliff]

No

[wet furnace]

what does package acceptence pending mean

[wicked frigate]

It says limited

[wanton cliff]

Go to speedtest.net

[wicked frigate]

Ok than

[wanton cliff]

And press the big greenish/bluish button

[wicked frigate]

Wait so I change anything from this

[wanton cliff]

Don’t change anything

Just run the test, please

Imma get a warning for duplicated text in a second

[hollow grail]

true

ill laugh at u in a second

[still tundra]

one sec

[wanton cliff]

@still roost please don’t ban me

[wicked frigate]

Idk if this is correct

That lol

Do I change the server

[wanton cliff]

No lol

Is this through that middleman from earlier?

The extender?

[wicked frigate]

Yes

I talked yesterday with u and fish

[wanton cliff]

Yes you did

Can you remove that middle man?

[analog pulsar]

Bruh

[wanton cliff]

The extender?

[wicked frigate]

What name

[analog pulsar]

10 upload

[wanton cliff]

Just go straight from the modem to your PC?

[wicked frigate]

That’s going to be hard

[wanton cliff]

Well if you can’t do it then your upload/download speed is going to suffer greatly

[wicked frigate]

Ok

I there any other way

[wanton cliff]

Get a much, much better extender

[wicked frigate]

Like

[hollow grail]

get a better pc

their hardware is 10+ years old

[wanton cliff]

Ah

[hollow grail]

just stop trying to fix it

[wanton cliff]

Did not know

[hollow grail]

like fr

its a waste of your time lmao

[wicked frigate]

Ok but what extender do I recommend

U

[hollow grail]

i recommend not putting any more money into this waste of time

and getting a new pc

if one is on the way then live with wifi till it arrives

[wanton cliff]

What is the hardware exactly?

[wicked frigate]

That

Lol

[wanton cliff]

Ah

Yeah

[wicked frigate]

I am waiting for my parts to come in

So I can build my new car me

[wanton cliff]

Mmmhm

[wicked frigate]

Want to see it

[wanton cliff]

No

[wicked frigate]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZNyt4d

This

Just waiting for the parts

That’s all

[wanton cliff]

Ah

I helped you make this list

What was it, Monday?

Almost a week ago now?

[hollow grail]

sees seagate hdd

[wanton cliff]

I said to do WD blue but whatever

[hollow grail]

oh forgiven

[muted patio]

I said Toshiba but they thought it was a crap drive

[hollow grail]

to be fair

x300 bottoms out at 4tb

and thats their good drive imo

if they have over $100 to spend on rust

x300 all the way

but below that?

wd blue

[still tundra]

no

[wanton cliff]

Just please, for the love of god, don’t do Seagate

[wanton cliff]

Why

[still tundra]

@muted patio i am getting tosiba

ik

[wanton cliff]

Why do you have Seagate on your list then

[still tundra]

i forgot to chnage it

[hollow grail]

why the hell are you using 2 accounts

[wanton cliff]

One is on his pc, one is on his phone

[hollow grail]

that is stupid as all hell

[still tundra]

how

[wanton cliff]

Interesting

Could be that your hard drive is dying, but you said that the BIOS won’t boot correctly either?

Hard drive just means something that you store files on

[old hearth]

how is this i got an ax850 psu, coolermaster aio, 1 tb and 500 gb ssd sn750s, 32 gb cl 16 ram and 3600 speed, a rtx 3080 and 5900x with cooler master td 500

[desert gulch]

It's good

[wanton cliff]

Get better hard drives

Odd

[old hearth]

sn 750s are amazing ssds? @wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

You can get better SSDs

[desert gulch]

Yeah sn 750 is rly good

[old hearth]

espicially for prize yea and pay 200 more

[desert gulch]

Sn 750 is faster than 970 evo in 500gig capacity

Iirc

[wanton cliff]

Are you sure it is screwed down correctly?

[old hearth]

@wanton cliff im paying 100 verse 200 for nearly same performance

[desert gulch]

Yeah

It's good

[wanton cliff]

MP34

[desert gulch]

Mp34 slower

[old hearth]

mp34 aint better lol

[wanton cliff]

Def look under the cover

[wanton cliff]

Better price to performance iirc

[desert gulch]

Sn750 on sale I think

It usually is

[wanton cliff]

Market is, of course, in shambles right now

[desert gulch]

Yea

[wanton cliff]

So I don’t know the price of everything right now

MP34 is usually cheaper

[desert gulch]

I think sn750 is like 62 for a 500

[old hearth]

yea i got both those ssds for 150

[wanton cliff]

I’m that case, go with the SN750

[old hearth]

1tb and 500 gb sn750 for 150 lol

is what i paid

[wanton cliff]

Nice

[old hearth]

and i got an ax850 to run it all

[desert gulch]

Pog

[old hearth]

and tomahawk wifi mag x570 for the 5900x

[wanton cliff]

Ew

Shoulda gone TUF

[old hearth]

i dont like tuf actually

except those sexy smexy 3080s

[wanton cliff]

TUF is better

Better VRMs, PCIe lanes

Etc

And the BIOS is so nice

[old hearth]

hey im knew here and from what i read the tomahwak was good so

my fault but whatever

[wanton cliff]

Get the TUF X570

If you haven’t ordered already

There is a WiFi variant too if you need it

[elfin flame]

Might get crap for this, but do you think I gave my friend too good of a deal on the parts I'm selling her:

-$150 RTX 2060
-$100 MSI Z390 MPG Gaming Edge AC
-$45 16GB DDR4 RAM @ 3200Mhz Corsair
-$45 700W Thermaltake White PSU
-$150 for i7-9700K

I haven't sold the parts yet, but I also like her, so I'm probably giving her too much of a discount on these parts.

[muted patio]

Be nice to friends

[wanton cliff]

I mean

Sell them for however much you want

[old hearth]

to late im afriad got tomahawk wifi for christmas just waiting for cpu and gpu

[wanton cliff]

Turn power off (through PSU), take out M.2, put it back in

[hollow grail]

yes

@elfin flame scamming urself for ur crush

send me the 2060 and ill be ur crush

[wanton cliff]

Mom stop simping

[hollow grail]

i wonder how many ppl on this server like me

prolly 0

[autumn wolf]

not true, theres 1 person

you

unless you dont like yourself, then oof

[hollow grail]

i hate myself

[autumn wolf]

rip

[fossil halo]

LOL

wait who do i simp for if i want techie

[hollow grail]

me

[fossil halo]

well then

LMAO

[hollow grail]

i simp for my homies

[fossil halo]

wait other than that one nzxt one the gigabyte garbage one and the asus only asus one

[hollow grail]

plus if i dont simp for @elfin flame who will

[fossil halo]

are there any other aios with displays on them

[hollow grail]

taking one for the team

[fossil halo]

LMAOO

i mean hes already simping for someone

[hollow grail]

but do they simp back

[fossil halo]

giving them the cheap pc parts

i mean

if someone gives u a rtx 2060 and i7 9700k for 300

id simp for sure

[hollow grail]

i hook my friends up

mostly with storage and hosting

[fossil halo]

lmao

wait but like

[fossil halo]

is

[hollow grail]

idfk

#old-cooling maybe

[fossil halo]

lmao

[hollow grail]

rip

what is the issue

i guess my child dipped

[fossil halo]

his pc is in a boot loop

[earnest olive]

i will like you when you give me a lililabs gen 4 1tb ssd

[rocky ocean]

Anyone know of some inexpensive laptops that match the following criteria?

[earnest olive]

you can find used gtx 1060 laptops for like $500

[fossil halo]

new zen 3 rtx laptops

coming out

[muted patio]

VR on a laptop though?

[fossil halo]

wait what game is that

[muted patio]

Steam VR requirements

[fossil halo]

oh

[rocky ocean]

I want a laptop specifically for steam vr

[fossil halo]

i mean if inexpensive

then jsut build a super cheap pc right

[rocky ocean]

Or I could do that

[fossil halo]

i think u can build a really cheap pc with those requirements

especially if u are willing to get used parts

[rocky ocean]

I just want to know how much it would cost about

[fossil halo]

lemme see

with new parts

[earnest olive]

with a used gtx 1060 and otherwise new parts

[rocky ocean]

I guess new parts

[earnest olive]

should be about $550-600 nowadays

i just did a build like that for a customer a few days ago

[rocky ocean]

This thing would only be used for vr

[hollow grail]

reinstall?

lol

[fossil halo]

yea u wanna get a used gpu

rx 570

really really cheap

like ~150

even some listings for 100

[earnest olive]

we live in a world where 150 is really really cheap for an rx 570

[verbal quarry]

How good are Biostar motherboards?

[fossil halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s7Mk8J this is a very bad list

[earnest olive]

mr. bones, i want to get off your wild ride

why pay $130 for a B460 mobo

O_O

[hollow grail]

not

hope i helped

[verbal quarry]

Lol ok

So whats the difference between a Biostar b550 and a Asus b550

[fossil halo]

asus is probably better

[verbal quarry]

It is but I wanna know the reason why

[fossil halo]

because well

i think more compatibility

with other parts

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/9yTCmG

this is the budget 1060 rig i just did

$534.87

[fossil halo]

thats an i3 tho

[muted patio]

Biostar has crappy BIOS, worse board/trace quality and less features typically

[fossil halo]

yea tht

[muted patio]

And worse VRM's

[earnest olive]

nothing is stopping you from increasing it to an i5-10400f for like $50 more

[fossil halo]

well yea

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YjqFxc

mans just dmed me that he has a 1080ti just lying around

[hollow grail]

one is bad and one is less bad

uh @earnest olive what is that ssd

[earnest olive]

is the mx500 bad?

i've only heard good things about it

[hollow grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p7yCt8

id do this

personally

HMB but a good ssd otherwise

mx500 is alright but not when the helix exists imo

$1 more to be able to tell the guy hes running NVME

is worth imo

even at its worst it beats sata

[earnest olive]

i set my filter to dram only

dont know any good hmb options

[stoic island]

@hollow grail smh I'd still get gammaxx 400 when the id cooling thing is 10$ more

[hollow grail]

you know this by now i only fix storage unless i expressly say otherwise

[stoic island]

@earnest olive btw why semi-expensive b460 board?

Oh nvm b460m ds3h went oos

Was about to say that's basically the same thing for like 20$ less

[wanton cliff]

Why did DrearyDepp get kicked/leave?

[stoic island]

Who knows

[wanton cliff]

Odd

He was having drive issues

Pinged me and then left

[hollow grail]

lmfao

rip in peace

[fossil halo]

he said he tried reinstalling the drive and nothing happened

[wanton cliff]

I’m confused as to why he just left tho

[fossil halo]

idk

[earnest olive]

@stoic island yeah i was surprised

why are b460 mobos g o n e

maybe production is slowing/stopping for b560

[blazing aurora]

is 144hz as life changing as people suggest

[wanton cliff]

compared to 60hz

yes

[gusty abyss]

it is a noticeable difference

[silent canyon]

Guys I need help my pc isn't booting right

I'm trying to install windows and it says that the selected disk is of the gpt partition style

[viral ore]

for fps games, yeah

for most other things, you notice it and its really nice

[glass harness]

my chart for fps 30 sucks/ 60 is nice/120 is good / and 144 is optimal honestly anything over 144 is just extra really

[gusty abyss]

I went from 60 to 165 and it was definitely a "whoa" moment

[wanton cliff]

Similarly, 720p sucks/ 1080 is nice/ 1440 is optimal/ anything above 4K is overkill

[silent canyon]

Hey uh.. I still need help haha

[glass harness]

yo i cant remember does b450 support 3rd gen ryzen

[hollow grail]

720 is fine tbh

[glass harness]

(for a laptop)

[wanton cliff]

What exactly is the problem

[glass harness]

or a smaller monitor i guess

[silent canyon]

Windows won't install onto my ssd

[glass harness]

720p on my 24 in looks hella ugly

[hollow grail]

resolution doesnt mean anything

what matters is pixel density

[glass harness]

uhh

true

[silent canyon]

Comes up with this

[hollow grail]

4k on a 5 inch screen looks the exact same as 1080p

[gleaming quartz]

its not formatted correctly

[wanton cliff]

Can you reformat it?

[hollow grail]

delete all partitions

[silent canyon]

How do I do that

[hollow grail]

make it just say unallocated space

[glass harness]

but resolution does mean things but yes pixel density does matter alot

[gleaming quartz]

just do "delete" and then your problem is solved

@silent canyon

assuming you're doing a clean install

[hollow grail]

resolution is useless

[silent canyon]

Tysm

[glass harness]

ehhhh

[silent canyon]

I think it worked

[hollow grail]

i can say 1080p gaming is fine

[glass harness]

i can to

[hollow grail]

but if im playing on a 50 inch tv itll look bad

[stoic island]

24in is great tho

[glass harness]

also true

[hollow grail]

its important to target your display more than you target resolution

[glass harness]

however a 1440p 24in would look sharper than my 1080p 24 in no doubt

[wanton cliff]

I wouldn’t accept anything less than 2k on a 50 inch TV

Even then

[glass harness]

same

if your getting a 50in get 4k lol

[hollow grail]

https://www.designcompaniesranked.com/resources/is-this-retina/

this is all that matters

[glass harness]

truth

[wanton cliff]

At that point it would be hard to find anything NOT 4K. Was kinda talking about computer performance at that point.

[hollow grail]

300ppi is fine

if its less than 300ppi

is is no longer fine

that is literally all that matters

[glass harness]

true

but the bigger you get the more resolution you must ahve

[hollow grail]

yes because the bigger it is

the lower ppi you get

ppi stands for pixels per inch

300 is the golden standard

[glass harness]

also i would like to say that my brother has a macbook pro and its like 18in screen looks really sharp 4k why is that?

[hollow grail]

wdym

[tulip arch]

What are good asus mobos for Intel

For like 10th gen

[glass harness]

like we have laptops with 1080p same size screens and they dont look anything alike

[hollow grail]

because apple invented the concept of retina

and their PPI calculations are perfect every time

[glass harness]

ah so its done well

[hollow grail]

no one does it better

apple displays are best in class

[wanton cliff]

apple screens are pretty good these days ngl

[hollow grail]

apple has always had the best displays

[glass harness]

true

[wanton cliff]

idk about always

[hollow grail]

always

[wanton cliff]

but they are definitely good right now

also, be careful mom, or you are going to start sounding like an apple shill

[hollow grail]

since 1999

[glass harness]

apple has its advantages but i like changing all the stuff inside my pc all the time

[hollow grail]

when the cinema display came out

they have had the best looking consumer displays

[wanton cliff]

cries in everything is soldered to board

[glass harness]

lol

[wanton cliff]

same thing with my X360

[hollow grail]

apple is fantastic if you are the target audience

[wanton cliff]

HP doesnt like modularity apparently

[wanton cliff]

and if you arent?

[glass harness]

hp and dell hate each other to so yea no mix and match there lol

[hollow grail]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-A1083-Cinema-HD-Display-30-Widescreen-DVI-LCD-Monitor-2560-x-1600/193816084869?hash=item2d2056c185:g:caMAAOSwjV9fvXUC

this is still a rly good display

[glass harness]

any way can b450 use 3rd gen ryzen?

[wanton cliff]

sure it can

[glass harness]

the 5k series

[wanton cliff]

5k series isnt 3rd gen but ok

[glass harness]

yes it is

[wanton cliff]

anyways yeah it has an AM5 socke4

[glass harness]

right?

[wanton cliff]

no

[glass harness]

am4...

[wanton cliff]

yeah my bad

been thinking about AM5

anyways

[glass harness]

5k series is on 3rd gen architecture

[hollow grail]

but yeah apple displays are best in class on consumer devices and have been for quite a while

[glass harness]

true

[hollow grail]

still needs a bios update

[wanton cliff]

Zen3 CPUs (AKA 5th generation Ryzen) works on any AM4 socket, assuming the BIOS has been updated

[wanton cliff]

no it isnt lol

[glass harness]

yes ZEN 3

AHHHH

[wanton cliff]

which is the 4th generation of Zen architecture

[glass harness]

so confusing

tehre isent one

[wanton cliff]

the order is Zen (1000 series), Zen+ (2000 series), Zen2 (3000 and 4000 series), and Zen3 (5000 series)

[glass harness]

5k series hasent hit newegg yet other than special packs

[wanton cliff]

it has

just sold out every second of the day

[glass harness]

so its 5k series zen3 4th gen damn thats fking stupid

[wanton cliff]

yeah

yeah, it is

Ryzen 4000 was all laptop CPUs by the way

[glass harness]

ye ik

thats why they skipped it

it doesent look like the 5k series is stand alone on newegg yet

[wanton cliff]

it is

but

like I said

it is sold out every second of the day

[glass harness]

where i cant find its sold out tab

[wanton cliff]

I sent you the link to a monitoring bot

if you want a Vermeer CPU, watch that bot

they usually come in around 7:30 PM EST

[glass harness]

now i have 2 discord restock bots

oh ok there it is

found it

its not part of the cpu section its the Ryzen 5000 section

[pliant lake]

For the mobile 5000 chips some are Zen 2, and some Zen 3

[wanton cliff]

We aren’t talking about the mobile chips

[glass harness]

why doesent the 5800x ever get paired with a mobo

it only has psu packs

[wanton cliff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow grail]

the answer is that margin on boards is low

and psu margin is higher

[earnest olive]

imagine trying to power a pc with an absurd amount of AA batteries

[muted patio]

Could be done

AA is 3.9 watt hours roughly

at 1.5 volts

So to run for an hour you'd need an absolute ton of them but it could be done

[earnest olive]

you'd need to hook up 8 in series just to hit 12 volts

[muted patio]

Yes

Would need to be a series-parallel configuration to get the watt hours and voltage you'd need

[stoic island]

Smh just don't use VRMs and just give 1.5v to everything

[celest horizon]

I want to see a tech tuber power the 12v rail from a car battery

[wanton cliff]

I watched someone play Doom with a PC powered only by potatoes

2016 i think

cant recall

it was BasicallyHomeless

[hollow grail]

diy UPS

[jagged spire]

Random question

Dis good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7VBGHz

[severe axle]

psu is not good

get the cx650 instead

[jagged spire]

How much more?

[gusty abyss]

if you can get 3600 ram that'd be a little better but not a huge deal

[severe axle]

$5

[jagged spire]

Ok

[hollow grail]

ssd bad too

mp34 $5 more

[jagged spire]

What’s the difference

?

[pliant lake]

$140 for 16GB RAM is bad

[hollow grail]

its $90?

did list update or smth

[jagged spire]

I mean he’s not wrong

[pliant lake]

i cant follow lines

[jagged spire]

No I didn’t

[gusty abyss]

lolol

[hollow grail]

@jagged spire fix ur ssd

team mp34

[jagged spire]

@hollow grail what’s the difference

[hollow grail]

faster, better quality, higher endurance rating

[jagged spire]

Ok

[hollow grail]

pushes an extra gb/second read and writ

e

[jagged spire]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bzrk8J

Better

?

I used all suggestions

(2)

[hollow grail]

yea

imo that case is bad

but its preference

id go with that one cooler master case

[jagged spire]

Ok

Ty all

[hollow grail]

its mesh and honestly looks amazing

i love the like

geometric patterns on mesh fronts

looks god tier every time

[desert gulch]

@hollow grail you talking abt the td500?

[hollow grail]

hehe yea

[obsidian steeple]

Hey. I was told a Kraken X63 would only fit at the front if my Corsair Carbine 275R

Doesn't this pick tell me that it will fit at the top?

Sorry I'm new to this

[muted patio]

2x140mm fans

It'll fit in the front

top 2 slots

[obsidian steeple]

Damn I wanted to put it at the top

Does the 53 work as good?

[muted patio]

Yes, it'll be fine

Arctic Freezer II is better though as is the EK 240mm

[obsidian steeple]

Nice I'll check it

Thanks man

[muted patio]

YW

[gusty abyss]

it'll fit at the top depending on your ram

[obsidian steeple]

My ram?

[gusty abyss]

I have a 275r airflow and tried to put one in the top, I have dumb wide/tall ram sticks that bumped into the fans

[obsidian steeple]

I have the normal one

Not the airflow

[gusty abyss]

shouldn't they be basically the same on the inside?

[obsidian steeple]

Hey, could I change the fans for some corsair rgb ones I have at home?

[obsidian steeple]

idk

The kraken fans, I meant

[gusty abyss]

yeah you could

[obsidian steeple]

It would wok?

work

Nice, I'll buy the RGB-less version

Thanks

[gusty abyss]

assuming the fans are the right size and you have an rgb hub for the corsair fans, yeah

[obsidian steeple]

Yes

Of course

Thanks man!

[frozen axle]

for ryzen cpus quick question they are installed sideways right like i get triangle to triangle but the reading is always like 90 degrees rotated right

idk felt weird installing it not rightside up

[muted patio]

Triangle to Triangle

That's all that matters

[frozen axle]

does that look alright

oof not the best picture but

[muted patio]

Tirangle to Triangle

It'll only drop in one way

So if it dropped in, send it

[fossil halo]

yea

it is sideways

it was for mine too

[muted patio]

It's actually in line with the socket lol

Socket is sideways 😉

[left glacier]

when getting a budget pc for 1k and looking for a 1660 super graphics card. which 1660? geforce, asus, nvidia, msi?

[fossil halo]

doesnt matter

which ever ones cheaper

avoid pny

[green chasm]

Hey y’all I have a 3070 but idk if I should get a 5600x or 10700k any suggestions?

[left glacier]

@fossil halo kk thxs

[wanton cliff]

5600x

[fossil halo]

5600x is far more powerful

if you want a worse pc for your money, get the 10700k

[wanton cliff]

Don’t exaggerate

[fossil halo]

i mean

the 5600x and 10700k dont even compare

[wanton cliff]

They kinda do tho

[fossil halo]

are you sure about that?

[wanton cliff]

Yes

[fossil halo]

u s e r b e n c h m a r k

🤮

[wanton cliff]

Useful for comparing products

[fossil halo]

tru ig

wait wth

[wanton cliff]

Either way is good

[fossil halo]

yea

ig

[wanton cliff]

I would go with 10700k for those 2 extra cores

Although 5600x has better clocks

[fossil halo]

i mean i think 5600x better for gaming tho right

but yea more cores tru

idk i have r7 3700x which is like worse than the 10700k

right

i think the 3700x compares to the 9700k right

[little osprey]

9700k is still game killer

its trick . 8 solid cores xd

[earnest olive]

3700x loses to the 9700k in games unless it's one of the few games that uses more than 8 physical cores

3700x will probably age better though

[little osprey]

amd usually is just number trick

[earnest olive]

especially since 9700k can only upgrade to 9900k while 3700x can upgrade to 5950x

@wanton cliff also use passmark if you want a quick comparison, it's better than userbenchmark but does roughly the same thing

[mental steeple]

9700k frametimes can suck in some titles that benefit from hyperthreading

[little osprey]

i agree with that intel changing chipset quickly

[mental steeple]

processors and gpu's are boring

can we talk about something interesting

like ssd controllers

[little osprey]

ssd is just ssd for me 😂

[mental steeple]

you are

[earnest olive]

this is build chat a lot of people coming here are beginners

you might get better discussion on that in #storage-devices

[mental steeple]

probably

[left glacier]

https://secure.newegg.ca/wishlist/sd/XcSYk3yINvvfTXYAKFBCUg== what kind of case should this build have?

[earnest olive]

most people asking questions here are first time builders

who are probably going to know nothing about ssd controllers

[little osprey]

low psu

[earnest olive]

and just buy what is recommended to them

skimping too hard on the ssd and the psu there

also paying $308 for a gtx 1660 super is not a great idea look for a used gtx 1080 at that price

and $304 ryzen 5 3600... lol

just buy an i5-10400f

oh

[little osprey]

@left glacier go better psu and this 1660 is so overpriced

[earnest olive]

wait this is canadian

anyways still go i5-10400f

$304 cad is still overpriced for a 3600

[left glacier]

ye canada T^T

[little osprey]

10400 killing 3600 on games

[earnest olive]

that psu is going to go boom

[little osprey]

even with lower speed rams

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-works-tod-todd-howard-тоддговард-fallout-skyrim-gif-14803660

AM4 just works

[earnest olive]

nah they have similar gaming perf if 10400f is locked to 2666mhz ram

3600 is a little better

but it will be 0 difference with a 1660 super

[little osprey]

ofc

[wanton cliff]

How does a 1650Ti compare to a 1080?

[little osprey]

10400 is cheaper and it's worth to get it

[fossil halo]

1080 may be better?

[little osprey]

1650 ti ?

[fossil halo]

idk

[earnest olive]

1660ti you mean?

1650ti only exists in laptops

[fossil halo]

1650 super

[wanton cliff]

I know

I’m asking for the sake of my laptop

Which has a 1650Ti

[fossil halo]

wow

idk

[left glacier]

wait wats compatable to the i5-10400f

[little osprey]

laptops

[fossil halo]

any lga1200 mobo

[wanton cliff]

Laptops do be kinda funky tho

[little osprey]

@left glacier b460 h410 h470 z490

[wanton cliff]

In other words

AM4 is good

[little osprey]

that right tho xd

[wanton cliff]

LGA is bad

[little osprey]

amd

[fossil halo]

^^^^

amd is good

intel is bruh

more like

bob swan is bruh

[earnest olive]

gtx 1080 is like 15-20% better than gtx 1660 ti

[fossil halo]

pat gelsinger knows where its at

[wanton cliff]

AMD sockets are a lot less confusing at the very least

[fossil halo]

fr

wait how does a intel cpu work tho

[left glacier]

lol

[fossil halo]

like