building-and-recc-chat

[ebon matrix]

ok

[left shore]

Bruhhh

[wanton cliff]

what message are you referring to?

[left shore]

So why would I go with a part that's unavailable

[clever jetty]

how long it takes ?

[wanton cliff]

nothing is available right now lol

[left shore]

The i3 10100 is

[clever jetty]

to update bios

[wanton cliff]

bad cpu and upgrade path

[left shore]

Upgrade path yes

But the CPU itself is pretty good

[wanton cliff]

not in comparison

[left shore]

Well

[wanton cliff]

i dont even think it has an iGPU

[left shore]

It's available

[muted patio]

10100?

[wanton cliff]

just wait a minute

[muted patio]

it has onboard

[wanton cliff]

you will be able to find one

[wanton cliff]

I thought only CPUs with F moniker have them?

10100F for example

[muted patio]

F doesn't have them IIRC

[wanton cliff]

also you can OC 3100

all Ryzen CPUs are unlocked IIRC

not 10100 tho

[muted patio]

Yup

[wanton cliff]

plus Ryzen boost clock is great

[muted patio]

All ryzen unlocked

[left shore]

The 10100 is good enough

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/98BTt8

[wanton cliff]

good enough is a horrible state of mind in this business

[left shore]

Well he only has a 75 hz monitor

[wanton cliff]

still

better upgrade path

[left shore]

If he buys a better GPU he'll be good

[wanton cliff]

not how math works

a 10100 with, say, a 2070 will be bottlenecked by the 10100

[left shore]

Well you said GPU is a big factor

[wanton cliff]

so is CPU

[wanton cliff]

or worse, a 3060Ti

[left shore]

Will it be able to run Fortnite at like 120 FPS?

[wanton cliff]

possibly

but in the future, Ryzen will be better

LGA1200 isnt compatible with most other intel CPUs IIRC

but I am far from an expert on Intel

who knows, AMD might pull a quick one and make AM5 backwards compatible and it will be amazing

[muted patio]

AM5 won't be backwards compatible

I mean, AM4 is old enough LOL

[wanton cliff]

yeah ik

wishful thinking

and AM4 lasted a damn long time

[muted patio]

The amazing things they've done with AM4, time to move on

[left shore]

Then what should I buy

Right now

I need something you can buy

[muted patio]

need something RIGHT NOW

Intel

10300/10400 if you can

[wanton cliff]

or find a used 3100

[left shore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/98BTt8

So this

[wanton cliff]

like I said, better upgrade path

[left shore]

Used 3100 is more

Way more

[wanton cliff]

worth it imo

[muted patio]

That will work

Yeah, Intel's upgrade path kinda sucks but

They're stuff also isn't bad

[left shore]

@wanton cliff but it’s not within the budget

[wanton cliff]

worth the extra $50

[left shore]

No lol

[still roost]

METR0B00MING#9608 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[left shore]

Oops

@wanton cliff Ok ok I can do it but without the cooler tho

Ryzen 3 3100 should come with a cooler anyways

[wanton cliff]

thats fair

Ryzen stock coolers have been great for nearly half a decade now

[muted patio]

Some are great. IMO, the 3600/5600 should have come with the Prism instead of regular SPire/Wraith

[wanton cliff]

agreed

great for light work though, and easy to install

I know from experience

[left shore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/44Ngqp

[wanton cliff]

putting a 3rd party cooler on an AM4 motherboard can be annoying

[left shore]

So this is ok?

[wanton cliff]

ram at 3200 C16 should be both better and cheaper

[left shore]

Cheaper?

[muted patio]

NOt really lol

Probs same price

For some reason, DDR 3000 is just as expensive as the rest

[left shore]

How much will is be?

[wanton cliff]

3000mhz RAm is weird

[wanton cliff]

like he said, probs the same

[muted patio]

Ye

[left shore]

Where would I buy it for that price?

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164188?Description=3200 c16 ram&cm_re=3200_c16 ram-_-20-164-188-_-Product&quicklink=true

[wanton cliff]

what does the s in sDRAM mean

[muted patio]

Synchronous

[wanton cliff]

got it

[left shore]

Bet

[wanton cliff]

what does the D mean?

and ram is obviously Random Access Memory

[muted patio]

SDRAM

Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory

[wanton cliff]

makes sense

[muted patio]

TY Google

LMAO

[wanton cliff]

big words mean simple things most of the time

also why do we say 3600 megahertz and not 3.6 gigahertz?

[muted patio]

Because even megahertz isn't right

It should be M/T

mega transfers

[wanton cliff]

ah

[muted patio]

data rate, not frequency

[wanton cliff]

I was just thinking about that terminology actually

[clever jetty]

the red light is not longer flashing but there’s a white light , is it safe to turn off power ??

[wanton cliff]

considering a hertz is more like an equation

what does the white light mean

[clever jetty]

idk

[wanton cliff]

take a picture closer to the light please

a lot closer

[muted patio]

what board please

[wanton cliff]

closer

[muted patio]

Need to check manual

[wanton cliff]

not necessarily

[clever jetty]

msi b550 a pro

[muted patio]

nm got it

[wanton cliff]

just need a closer picture

[wanton cliff]

does it say DRAM?

if so try reseating it

does it say DRAM?

[muted patio]

Don't do anything yet if you were updating BIOS lol

[clever jetty]

it’s lighting the cpu

it is the cpu light

[muted patio]

"5. Press the Flash BIOS Button to flash BIOS, and the LED starts flashing.
6. The LED will be turned off when the process is completed. "

If you were updating the BIOS, just wait

[left shore]

Will a 500 W PSU be good enough for a RX 570 and Ryzen 3 3100?

[clever jetty]

okk thanks

[stoic island]

ye

[wanton cliff]

yeah you'll be fine

for now

about the upgrade path I was talking about earlier tho: 500w doesnt leave a lot of room for that. Gonna need to upgrade it at some point.

not now though

[left shore]

One last question

RX 580 and Ryzen 5 2600 combo

Actually nvm

[muted patio]

Just fine

[left shore]

It was a little more expensive

Like 190 for each

[buoyant trench]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yHWGnL can someone let me know that all these parts are good and compatible? minus the motherboard, cpu, and the corsair memory stick. im trying to upgrade my parts but also get a new case in the process but i wanna make sure everything is good and correct

[wanton cliff]

if you are able to put them on a list on PcPartPicker it means they are compatible

however

why did you buy 2 kits of RAM from 2 separate companies?

[buoyant trench]

my friend made this list for me and he said either one is good

[wanton cliff]

ah

[buoyant trench]

but im not gonna go with the corsair ram

[wanton cliff]

not completely right

why?

thats the one you should go with lmao

[buoyant trench]

ok then i will do that then

[muted patio]

Yeah, corsair better than Team T

[wanton cliff]

you can get cheaper RAM with RGB btw

[muted patio]

Crucial Ballistix

[wanton cliff]

intel only goes up to... what was it, 2900 MHz?

also that SSD is a bit expensive I think

I dont know the conversion from CAD to US

MP34 is a good alternative

there are better and cheaper 3070s

Founders Edition for example

(I don't much like Gigabyte GPUs)

[buoyant trench]

oh yeah its because im trying to go for an all white pc

[wanton cliff]

oh

[buoyant trench]

so the white one is more expensive

[muted patio]

Yep

[wanton cliff]

I see

[buoyant trench]

and the only one they have

[muted patio]

White is spendy

For whatever reason

[wanton cliff]

white is unreasonably overpriced

its cheaper to manufacture than black too lmao

pennies tbf but still

and a question for you, @buoyant trench : do you need to go intel or do you not care?

because I reccommend AMD

[buoyant trench]

i already have a motherboard and a cpu

and i dont htink i need to upgrade that

[muted sluice]

corsair ram prices just going up

it used to be the same price as the black ram and cheaper

[prisma jungle]

My laptop is finally dying after 12 years of careful maintenance. I want to get an inexpensive barebone mini-computer to replace it. Something that won't have a problem running Linux. Any recommendations?

[wanton cliff]

ooh, Linux

AMD time

havent had someone come in here asking specifically for a Linux PC in months

[prisma jungle]

I have always favored AMD over Intel

[wanton cliff]

@hollow grail

I dont use Linux (yet)

she does though

[prisma jungle]

I wish I could just use the SSD from my laptop with Windows 7 on it but I'm sure there would be more problems than I'd care to try and overcome.

[muted patio]

windows 7

[wanton cliff]

going way back in time

remember 8.1?

lol

[prisma jungle]

When I got the laptop it was pre-installed.

[wanton cliff]

or Vista, dude

[wanton cliff]

I guessed as much

[prisma jungle]

I never wanted to upgrade it.

[wanton cliff]

you can probably get the files out

[prisma jungle]

I can save all my files, no problem. I've never used Linux but I want a divorce from Microsoft.

[wanton cliff]

good

Virtual Machine time

lets see

you said Mini ITX?

[prisma jungle]

I mean, I don't want any Microsoft product on my new machine.

[next kestrel]

windows: the ultimate bloatware

[prisma jungle]

Mini desktop -- I don't know what ITX mens.

[next kestrel]

its a type of form factor

[wanton cliff]

small

never done an ITX build before

lets see what I can do

gimme a few minutes

[prisma jungle]

BRB have to do a small errand

[wanton cliff]

also what's your budget and intended use for this machine?

[lyric crag]

anyone have any leads on the x570 dark hero?

[prisma jungle]

I don't play games online. I just need a good computer for movies, music, web, word processing, photo editing etc. Want to keep the price as low as possible while still having at least a 2ghz processor and 8GB of RAM.

[wanton cliff]

at least 2 ghz

even the cheapest of laptops these days can achieve that

at least you know what you want though

thats good

[prisma jungle]

I don't want another laptop

[wanton cliff]

i know

[prisma jungle]

They are too hard to get into to make repairs.

Just opening the case on this Toshiba Satellite takes half the day.

[wanton cliff]

budget?

[prisma jungle]

cheap! Not much more than $200 not including RAM. I already have a 500GB SSD.

[wanton cliff]

not including RAM? also a case alone will take half your budget

[clever jetty]

how do i take this out without damaging the pins

[lyric crag]

Grab it by the sides

[wanton cliff]

the pins, if held on a surface, will distribute the weight between themselves

but yes, by the sides

[prisma jungle]

There are barebone mini-PC kits in that range.

[wanton cliff]

true but that's barebone

[prisma jungle]

I want barebone

[wanton cliff]

like, never drank milk in their life barebone

[lyric crag]

@prisma jungle that really is not feasible

[prisma jungle]

I want no OS, no HD, no RAM.

[wanton cliff]

an ITX or Micro-ATX case alone will be more than half your budget

[lyric crag]

okay so say you cheap out on a case.... 40 bucks you now have 160 for cpu and mobo

...........

[wanton cliff]

and thats ITX and Micro ATX

not feasible

[prisma jungle]

I don't mean build the whole thing! I just mean buy a kit with the case and MB and processor etc. in there already.

[lyric crag]

thats like someone saying i want a 3080 build for 1000

@prisma jungle a power supply is not cheap either

[prisma jungle]

There are tons of them on Amazon etc. for under $300 but which ones will run Linux without issues?

[lyric crag]

sounds like you have a barebones kit in mind

[clever jetty]

@lyric crag i think i put it Ok

[wanton cliff]

if you can find one on amazon for cheap then show us and we will judge

8gb should be more than anough for any linux distro

as far as RAM goes

[muted patio]

I mean, why not get a NUC for linux?

[lyric crag]

I won't judge but I don't think that your price point is feasible

[prisma jungle]

I see plenty of them but in the reviews half the people are saying no problems running Linux and the other half are saying the opposite.

[wanton cliff]

show us what you have in mind

please

[prisma jungle]

A NUC for Linux would be great! But which one?

[muted patio]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4EP1N0?tag=chmod7mediate-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[lyric crag]

here is one for under 200

[prisma jungle]

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-NUC-Mainstream-Kit-NUC8i3BEH/dp/B07GX4X4PW

[wanton cliff]

I saw Pentium 4 and no

[muted patio]

yeah, like that one

or the COre i5

[wanton cliff]

it says RAM: 6gb and then RAM Memory Installed: 32gb

and its DDR4 2400, which is very slow

maybe good for a server but not much else

a light server, that is

[muted patio]

I mean, it's a NUC

not supposed to be a rocket lol

[wanton cliff]

true

[muted patio]

and for $250

I mean

[wanton cliff]

you are also paying for a windows 10 license in there, whether you want to or not

"a visual powerhouse" it says on the marketing

lol

pretty solid looking for the price tho ngl

[prisma jungle]

The RAM I have now in the laptop is way slower than that and still adequate for my needs.

[muted patio]

It's windows 10 ready lol

[wanton cliff]

if you say so

[muted patio]

Doesn't come with 10 despite what it says

[wanton cliff]

thats kinda crappy

for most people that is

bad marketing

[muted patio]

it doesn't come with a drive

[wanton cliff]

they said they have one

it's price is starting to make more sense

[muted patio]

Right

That was my point

It has no drive so can't come with Windows 10 lol

maybe a key but I doubt that, it's just Windows 10 Ready

[prisma jungle]

I'll be back shortly

[wanton cliff]

as if that is even something you need to market anymore

hasnt been for the last half a decade or more lol

i mean, if it looks good for what you want, Suzu, then go ahead

idk how easy it is to open one of those though

speaking of, I'm going to put my new X570 in my PC

and swap the case as well

see y'all later

[clever jetty]

we’re do i find the m.2 screw?

[small osprey]

From your motherboard

Or your case

[clever jetty]

ok

[wanton cliff]

usually motherboard

[gleaming quartz]

its an m.2

it would have to be on the mobo?

[prisma jungle]

Like I said earlier, half the reviewers trying to run Linux on these Intel NUCs say it works fine, the rest say they can't make it work without a lot of technical tweaks that would be beyond me.

[wanton cliff]

if you cant find it, you dont need to hold it down with a screw. Just order some on amazon and use the M.2 without the screw.

Source: used a 970 evo plus without a screw for about a month

no problems

[wanton cliff]

well then dont get it. an actual PC for that much is nigh impossible.

[small osprey]

Only problem could be it falls out of the slot

[wanton cliff]

hasnt happened to me

[prisma jungle]

I've seen a few with Celeron processors going for well under $200

[wanton cliff]

ew celeron

but it works for what you want ig

[prisma jungle]

yeah I know

Actually, it won't work well enough.

[timid holly]

Hi I have a bit is a strange question. I purchased a wifi/bluetooth pci-e card for my PC not realizing the motherboard in this pre-built doesn't have a single USB header on it. I'm looking for an adapter to go from the 9-pin header to USB type A so I can just use one of the USB 2.0 ports on the back of the PC to power the Bluetooth. Does such a thing exist? and how do I go about searching for an adapter like this?

[clever jetty]

i found it

that screw is super small

[muted patio]

They are

I always grab them first during assembly and put them in the standoffs so I dont lose them

@timid holly I'm kind of confused. You have a PCI-E card that you want to adapt to USB, is that right?

PCI-E slots are on your motherboard, I bet you'll have one

[timid holly]

No

I have a pcie slot. The card I bought needs usb power in order for the Bluetooth to work. I do not have a USB header on my motherboard. I need an adapter from 9 pin usb header to usb type a so I can power it

[muted patio]

Ahhh, that makes more sense.

Kind of. The card should get power from the PCI-E slot itself. Do you have a link to the card you bought?

[timid holly]

Only the wifi works without USB power. And no, I don't have a link. No worries, I'll keep lookinjg

[muted patio]

I'm asking because it may be easier to get the 4 pin to USB-A adapter than the 9 pin. If the card has a 4 pin on the other end that connects to the actual card........

[timid holly]

it does

[muted patio]

These are available but you'll need a male to male USB cable. I can't find a USB-A Male to female 4 pin or 9 pin

https://www.amazon.com/TRIPP-Motherboard-Header-6-Inch-U024-06N-IDC/dp/B00QVTVB84/ref=psdc_464394_t3_B07Y166455

[timid holly]

thank you

[muted patio]

YW

I did manage to find what you needed but the only source is Alibaba

[verbal quarry]

whats the difference between WD Blue and WD Purple

[muted patio]

I think Purple is the NAS stuff

@hollow grail

[verbal quarry]

NAS?

[wanton cliff]

dont ping lili, she is high

[muted patio]

LMFAO

K, brb then

[verbal quarry]

lol

whos the ram person?

[muted patio]

Oh surveillance drive

If you want WD

Go red

NAS

[wanton cliff]

probs mr 1111

[verbal quarry]

cost is to much

[muted patio]

What about ram?

[verbal quarry]

who knows all about ram

[muted patio]

I mean, I know a bit

[verbal quarry]

sara said mr 1111

[muted patio]

Well, OK

[blazing aurora]

is 350$ too much to pay for a 2070 super

[muted patio]

MSRP was $400 or more I think

so it's not bad actually

Yeah 399

[blazing aurora]

oh sweet

[muted patio]

So in this market anything under MSRP is good

[verbal quarry]

isnt the 2070 a bit better then the 3060ti in certain areas

[blazing aurora]

it's like $388 all fees included

[muted patio]

3060TI = 2080

[verbal quarry]

oooh ok

[blazing aurora]

2070 super

alright I guess I'll buy it then

or make an offer, at least

[wanton cliff]

2080s actually

[muted patio]

Ye, may as well

[unique rapids]

Hello guys. I have sa 3 pin led case fan. What is the difference between instering it to the 4 pin CHASIS header vs the 4 pin RGB Header on the motherboard?

[muted patio]

3 pin power?

[unique rapids]

sickleflow coolermaaster yes

[muted patio]

Just means you can't control the speed with it

RGB is for colors

[unique rapids]

with the rgb right?

rgb doesnt control speed?

[muted patio]

hang on, lemme look at the fan lol

Ok, here's the difference

4 pin RGB is 12 volt

3 pin aRGB is 5 volt

[unique rapids]

I accidentaly unplgugged my case fan while cleaning the pc. I forgot where I unplugged it.

[muted patio]

Only use the header where it will fit

it goes on the 4 PIN RGB header

I checked 🙂

[unique rapids]

4 pin RGB header. aura it says

[muted patio]

yep!

4 pin CHAS header is for power

not RGB

[wanton cliff]

tedious work is tedious

in this case

changing out your motherboard

oh hey

lili is a techie now

[unique rapids]

@muted patio So should I plug the 3 pin to the 4 pin CHAS right ? pls excuse if I am not following

[wanton cliff]

congrats @hollow grail

[hollow grail]

:))

[muted patio]

Both connectors should be 4 pin for the Sickleflow fan

[junior crescent]

Could someone make a pc list for Gaming (1440p), Streaming and editing for 2100 Australian dollars

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-miss-kobayashi-dragon-maid-meidoragon-gif-7889888

[muted patio]

4 PIN RGB and 4 PIN power

[unique rapids]

@muted patio My cooler master fan only has 3 pin.

[wanton cliff]

theo gib techie role

pls

will pay

[viral ore]

ahh, welcome, what did you bribe forks with?

[muted patio]

Ok, so the fan has a 3 PIN RGB connector but your motherboard only has 4 pin RGB headers?

[next kestrel]

pog new techie

[fast dust]

where

[unique rapids]

@muted patio 3 pin fan. No RGB . Only led fan.

[next kestrel]

lili and bob i think

[fast dust]

oh yeah mhm

[muted patio]

If it's power only, then CHA FAN header yes

[hollow grail]

oh im glad bob got it

he rly deserves it

[unique rapids]

@muted patio Nice. Thanks man.

[wanton cliff]

so...

when do I become a techie?

[viral ore]

when you bribe the mods

we all did at some point

[wanton cliff]

but seriously

[viral ore]

serious

[muted patio]

When you STOP asking for it

Just let it happen

[wanton cliff]

im joke asking

but still

[muted patio]

I know

THe more you ask the more they ignore XD

[viral ore]

its literally totally random

[stoic island]

yes

[hollow grail]

just be super cute

[stoic island]

mike will just one day decide

[hollow grail]

techies are cute gang

[muted patio]

Oh great

who let you in?

[fast dust]

but non techies are cool

[muted patio]

Love u lili

[viral ore]

techies are pog gang

[muted patio]

XD

[stoic island]

tekkies pog

[coarse coral]

where was my bribes

[viral ore]

prolly went to forks

missed out

[stoic island]

send the money to forky and it just happens

[viral ore]

nah, lili would have sent a few 18TB drives his way

[wanton cliff]

Boosters are cool too, probably

where did I put that other M.2 screw...

[hollow grail]

lililabs vps

[wanton cliff]

when lili is eventually a mod I'll be a techie

[viral ore]

tbh, i dont nearly see you around as much as lili

[wanton cliff]

I havent been around as long

[viral ore]

you become techie when you're both consistently active and helping people

[wanton cliff]

but im mostly here in build chat, minding my business

and helping a lot of people

[viral ore]

the only reason kenzie isnt techie is because he is totally clueless, a complete lost cause when it comes to tech

[wanton cliff]

kenzie is a dude?

[viral ore]

even though hes constantly active

yeah

[wanton cliff]

lit

[viral ore]

took me months to figure it out lmao

[wanton cliff]

there is a mod assist role I dont remember seeing before as well now

[next kestrel]

idk all i remember kenzie for

was when they refused to get an ssd

for their boot drive

[hollow grail]

lmao

[viral ore]

the mod assist role used to be the same color as the mod role

[next kestrel]

wait what

never knew that role existed

[viral ore]

and there used to be only one mod assist

[next kestrel]

oh lmao

[viral ore]

shes never active tho

[hollow grail]

[stoic island]

wasn't tomie mod assist

[wanton cliff]

ghosty is mod assist

[deep skiff]

yeah tomie was

[next kestrel]

how do people level up so fast lmao

[wanton cliff]

congrats ghostu and nacho

[stoic island]

nice

[deep skiff]

oh yeah now i have to be in more channels and not just lurk in periphs

[stoic island]

lol

[wanton cliff]

be active lol

[next kestrel]

pretty insane how people are like level 70

[stoic island]

@sullen spoke 132,000

I need to talk more

[wanton cliff]

the fact its only been about a month and a half and im already almost level 25 means im at least somewhat active, if not extremely active

[deep skiff]

hey now i can give myself level roles

[stoic island]

lol

[next kestrel]

damn, i feel like ive been active for a bit

[stoic island]

took me to like level 60 some before I got techie, so activity isn't the only measurement

[hollow grail]

im just cute

[stoic island]

I'm cuter

[hollow grail]

lies

[viral ore]

me n mr1111 joined over a year ago and got techie like a month or two ago

[stoic island]

mhm

[hollow grail]

i speedran techie role

[stoic island]

nah

bekora speedran it

I think Bekora got it like a week in

he was really fast

[hollow grail]

i speedran it but didnt get WR ok

[wanton cliff]

is a wraith better than a 212?

[next kestrel]

no

[wanton cliff]

i think so, right?

[next kestrel]

loud

[wanton cliff]

dont care about acoustics

also RGB is cool

[next kestrel]

wraith coolers have smaller fans so they're louder on average

do you mean wraith prism?

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[hollow grail]

small fan louder

[wanton cliff]

those

that came with 3800x

not spire

[hollow grail]

212 is just cring anyways

[next kestrel]

shouldnt be worth the upgrade

[stoic island]

Prism is basically a 212

[wanton cliff]

well I have one lying around and its easier to put it on the X570 than take the plate off the B450

[stoic island]

in terms of cooling

:P

[next kestrel]

but louder

[viral ore]

bryce got his techie role p fast as well

but he actually bribed forks

[hollow grail]

[muted patio]

It is

[wanton cliff]

with what?

[muted patio]

I've tested side by side

Prism and 212

[hollow grail]

[redacted]

[muted patio]

Prism actrually teeny better

[wanton cliff]

ooh nice

[sullen spoke]

Lol nice mr1

[wanton cliff]

easier to install too

[hollow grail]

sara get a big fat air cooler

like the assassin 3

[stoic island]

fuma 2

[hollow grail]

assassin 3 is FAT tho

[wanton cliff]

i think

i lost the screws for my prism

[stoic island]

le grand macho

[wanton cliff]

for the second time

[hollow grail]

sara pls

[wanton cliff]

what?

[next kestrel]

screws for the prism?

[wanton cliff]

for the standoff type thing

yeah

some sort of bracket

[hollow grail]

u r so silly

[next kestrel]

how lmao

[wanton cliff]

the ones I have fit perfectly but arent long enough

[hollow grail]

are u replacing your cooler rn

[wanton cliff]

whole mobo baybee

swapping out my dad's X570 with my B450

because [EXPLETIVE DELETED] him

[hollow grail]

sara boutta get whacked

[wanton cliff]

eh

I told you about what happened, didnt I?

scroll up in our DMs if you forgot

[hollow grail]

yeah i did lmao

maybe dont steal his motherboard tho

[wanton cliff]

eh

he does word documents with his computer

he doesnt need an X570

ok hold on

[hollow grail]

inb4 he comes home and sees u taking his pc apart and gets the belt out

[wanton cliff]

Which one do I use

Or both of them

[muted patio]

For what cooler?

[wanton cliff]

Prism

[muted patio]

Top one

It clips on

[wanton cliff]

I see

[steep wedge]

wait

what cpu?

[muted patio]

needs a back plate though

[wanton cliff]

What kind of screws tho?

Oh I see

[steep wedge]

bc those look like am4 and intel mounting

[wanton cliff]

I don’t have an Intel CPU in this house, these both came with AM4 mobos

[steep wedge]

oke

top one then

[muted patio]

Screw that's in it, those kind. Screws into the backplate

[next kestrel]

yea 2 of those

[hollow grail]

top one it just clips on

[wanton cliff]

idk where backplate is

[hollow grail]

cring

[next kestrel]

gg

[hollow grail]

imagine no intel

[muted patio]

Oofs, need backplate

[hollow grail]

yeah u need backplate

[next kestrel]

https://www.ebay.com/i/202858126693?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

[wanton cliff]

plus the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] mobo is already screwed into PC

[muted patio]

I mean, amazon has them too

[wanton cliff]

wait

[next kestrel]

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Bracket-Base-socket-Hewlett-Packard/dp/B006JAMUZ8/

[muted patio]

Huh, maybe backplate is already there?

[wanton cliff]

will a 212 backplate work?

[next kestrel]

the ebay one 100% works, i can confrim

amazon one i havent tested

[wanton cliff]

will a 212 backplate work tho?

[hollow grail]

are you trying with that rn?

[wanton cliff]

im going to try

once i unscrew these mobos

[hollow grail]

this is a lot of effort

[muted patio]

No, 212 backplate won't work

It has threads instead of holes

[wanton cliff]

[MULTIPLE EXPLETIVES DELETED]

where would the prism backplate be?

[muted patio]

Uh

[wanton cliff]

would it have comed with the mobo or CPU?

[muted patio]

mobo

Cuz those brackets come preinstalled

[wanton cliff]

preinstalled?

no they didnt

TUF X570

non wifi

[muted patio]

rly

[wanton cliff]

I built this thing 2 weeks before christmas

I dont remember those

[muted patio]

I'm just saying

[wanton cliff]

odd

ill ckeck the box again

[next kestrel]

wait

so you're taking off the 212

[muted patio]

Check picture

[next kestrel]

and putting on the prism?

[muted patio]

Preinstalled

I've done side by side tests

The Prism for me was actually better

[wanton cliff]

no those came in the box

without a backplate as far as I know

[next kestrel]

i'd just sell the prism for 20$ lmao

[muted patio]

Huh

Mine came preinstalled

TUF WIFI

[next kestrel]

did you buy used?

[hollow grail]

id just get a massive cooler

[next kestrel]

id custom loop

[wanton cliff]

came with CPU

[hollow grail]

and @wanton cliff i dont think they came without one, otherwise how tf would the stock mounting work

[next kestrel]

[next kestrel]

the mobo i mean

[wanton cliff]

no

new off newegg

[hollow grail]

oh yeah do i have to pretend to like buying from newegg now

[next kestrel]

lmfao yea

[earnest olive]

lili techie

[hollow grail]

yea

[muted patio]

No, you don't

[hollow grail]

i have achieved my goal

[next kestrel]

wegg returns :/

[hollow grail]

now i can never talk here again

[next kestrel]

honestly the reason i dont complain about newegg return fee and things is because i can just drive there and return the item

but the fact that ebay has better returns is uhh

[hollow grail]

lmao

yeah it sucks how they went downhill

[earnest olive]

I only return defective items and they don't charge a fee on defective

[wanton cliff]

well might as well put the 212 back on the old board since I dont need the backplate

[muted patio]

I mean

The 212 should have a backplate also

[hollow grail]

sara abt 2 get in trouble if she gets noticed at all

[muted patio]

Don't install without a back plate, might hurt motherboard

Not even sure you can TBH

[next kestrel]

install a cooler without a backplate?

:||

intel stock cooler moment

[muted patio]

XD

we don't talk about those

[wanton cliff]

you specifically said the 212 backplate wouldnt work

[muted patio]

Right, should have it's own backplate

And the AM4 brackets have a different one

[wanton cliff]

well it dont

[next kestrel]

the 212 should work with its own backplate

[hollow grail]

i love how that was a should

[wanton cliff]

ill look and see if its in the box for ye old B450 board

[hollow grail]

and not a will

[muted patio]

Hey there ya go!

[next kestrel]

212 is difficult to install

ive gotten cut twice lmao

sharp fins

[muted patio]

Stock AM4 backplate

[hollow grail]

honestly if you dont lose blood

youre doing it wrong

[next kestrel]

true

really glad i got the tetanus vaccine

[hollow grail]

loser

die to preventable diseases like a TRUE GAMER

[wanton cliff]

found it

[next kestrel]

pog

[wanton cliff]

tfw mom is an antivaxxer

[next kestrel]

u have the screws?

[wanton cliff]

and im not kidding; she is

[hollow grail]

is she an anti masker too

[wanton cliff]

thankfully no

the ironic part is she is a nurse

she thinks vaccines cause autism

but back on topic

[muted patio]

Yeah let's not

[wanton cliff]

ADHD be like:

[kind hemlock]

@wanton cliff I got the thermal paste you recommended I do a couple hours ago and I cleaned off and applied it but my PC still won’t boot any other ideas? :/

[hollow grail]

lmao wdym wont boot

[wanton cliff]

im building a pc, ask them

the newly elected techies

[hollow grail]

lmao i wanna see how sara handles this

[wanton cliff]

i could live stream with phone if you want

[hollow grail]

lul do it

[wanton cliff]

No perms

[earnest olive]

umm

[wanton cliff]

Live-streaming not allowed

[earnest olive]

thermal paste shouldn't have anything to do with booting

👀

[wanton cliff]

I said it could because heat

[hollow grail]

that as well

[wanton cliff]

If applied wrong

[hollow grail]

[earnest olive]

I've done boot tests without thermal paste before

[wanton cliff]

Really?

[hollow grail]

pc would still post even no cooler

[earnest olive]

worked fine

[muted patio]

Ye, they'll boot

[wanton cliff]

Huh

[muted patio]

just don't load OS, BIOS only

[earnest olive]

was at 55C in bios with no thermal paste

[hollow grail]

i mean its not good

but

[earnest olive]

completely safe

[hollow grail]

you can boot without a cooler

[earnest olive]

I was trying to diagnose a faulty part and had to do a lot of switching parts around

so didn't want to waste several tubes of paste

just mounted the cooler with no paste and it was perfectly fine

for a quick boot test

[hollow grail]

imagine mounting cooler

[muted patio]

We all know you use scotch tape

[earnest olive]

it was a clip style cooler

takes seconds to mount

[muted patio]

I was talking to lili lol

[earnest olive]

so was i

[muted patio]

She uses scotch tape to hold down M.2's

until the tape melts in half

[earnest olive]

oh no

[wanton cliff]

that was me lol

[muted patio]

OH

Well

I wouldn't be surprised if lili did it too

[hollow grail]

you are NOT seeing my rig rn

i may have lost the screw

[wanton cliff]

mom is making me stop to do homework

guess im coming back later

[hollow grail]

and it may be just scotch tape

[wanton cliff]

wtf lili

[earnest olive]

does the drive work if you try to use it without holding it down at all

[wanton cliff]

dont be like me

[earnest olive]

I've never tried

[wanton cliff]

yes

the scotch tape came off

[earnest olive]

this is making me uncomfortable

[hollow grail]

yes but it can fall out of the slot

[earnest olive]

I don't like this

[hollow grail]

its so bad

[clever jetty]

is the io shield necessary ?

[hollow grail]

but im too lazy to get mounting screws

[earnest olive]

no

[hollow grail]

no but make every effort to use t

it

[eager flower]

io shield isn't necessary, its nice though

[clever jetty]

okkk

[earnest olive]

you'll have a big gaping hole in the back of your case for lots of dust to settle in

but it'll work

[wanton cliff]

ehh

dust schmust

oh wait actua

lly

now that I unscrewed mobo

i can put I/O shield in

[hollow grail]

based

[wanton cliff]

which I forgot to do the first time

[hollow grail]

omg sara pls

[wanton cliff]

this is probably why im not a techie

lol

[earnest olive]

is sara fighting for kenzie's title or what

[wanton cliff]

nonono

[earnest olive]

most scuffed pc

[hollow grail]

they r the same person at this point

[eager flower]

Kenzie will be the queen

[wanton cliff]

kenzie doesnt know how to make a PC at all

ive built a few

[earnest olive]

just bend one of your ram sticks 15 degrees real quick

[wanton cliff]

NO

[hollow grail]

just buy lililabs vps

[wanton cliff]

MY PRECIOUS DIMMS

[wanton cliff]

im going to do that eventually

[hollow grail]

oh pog

[wanton cliff]

also kenzie probably doesnt know the difference between a DIMM slot and a PCIe 16x slot

so im at least better in that way

[eager flower]

does she really not

[earnest olive]

pcie x16 is where you put the cpu right

I tried to cram my 5950x in there but it bent some of the pins

is it still ok?

[wanton cliff]

oh no lol

[wanton cliff]

probably not, idk

[eager flower]

jesus

[wanton cliff]

PCIe slots are annoying

especially when you have 2 GPUs in there

which I tried today before realising you cant use a 1660s to encode video and a 5700xt to actually play games

[hollow grail]

i have like 6 expansion cards

u can

[wanton cliff]

well, you can

but the drivers dont like each other

[kind hemlock]

So maybe my CPUs dead? :/

[wanton cliff]

its possible

[kind hemlock]

Shoot

It’s only a 3600 so it’s not devastating but I really hope it isn’t lol

[wanton cliff]

test the CPU in another board?

[kind hemlock]

I don’t have another one rip lol

This is my first build

I had a prebuilt before but that was an intel board

[eager flower]

Whats not working?

[kind hemlock]

So basically I got 2 more sticks of ram to match my current set and get 32GB total but my cooler was on backwards blocking the first ram slot so I had to take it off and flip it

But after I did that my computer won’t post

[eager flower]

You might've damaged the CPU then, try running with the original RAM config

[kind hemlock]

I went to Best Buy and got some thermal paste and cleaned off the old stuff and applied the new paste

[wanton cliff]

already asked about 2 different kits, he said he did that already

[muted patio]

Oh

Reset CMOS

[kind hemlock]

Yeah I did, I tried every variation of ram

[muted patio]

One stick at a time?

[kind hemlock]

Did that already too

Yup

[muted patio]

Ok, when you removed the cooler, was it tough to get off?

[kind hemlock]

All 4 sticks

[muted patio]

Did you remove the CPU and check it?

[eager flower]

CPU might be dead then, did you move the CPU at all when removing

[hollow grail]

imagine not running a hypervisor and having 2 separate vms with passthrough

[kind hemlock]

I didn’t remove the CPU no

[eager flower]

reseat the CPU, make sure you didn't disconnect anything either

[kind hemlock]

Ight I’ll do that

[muted patio]

Yeah, I'd double check the CPU

[wanton cliff]

Im just waiting for you to flex that you are an Arch user at this point

[kind hemlock]

So make sure there’s no bent pins obviously, Anything else to look out for?

[hollow grail]

arch is gronse

[muted patio]

bent pins mostly

or broken pins

WHen you removed the cooler you may have pulled it out of the socket a bit

Next time get it warm before you remove the cooler

[kind hemlock]

Oh yeah that’s true

[muted patio]

Makes the paste soft

[kind hemlock]

The paste was kinda sticky almost

Gotcha thanks

[muted patio]

Run Cinebench or something for a while

Get er toasty 🙂

[kind hemlock]

Haha k

Would I need to re apply thermal paste?

[hollow grail]

tfw pc no post and u get told to bench it

[kind hemlock]

I put new thermal paste on about an hour or two ago

[eager flower]

reapply yeah

[kind hemlock]

Kk

[hollow grail]

every time u mess with the cooler u need new paste

[kind hemlock]

Gotcha

Alright I’ll do that right now

[wanton cliff]

its more of a recommended thing, right?

not necessary, but not a bad thing to do?

[eager flower]

You typically don't want to because its still been used and heated

and probably isnt too wet anymore

[wanton cliff]

what if its only a week after first use?

[hollow grail]

still

[wanton cliff]

huh

alright

[eager flower]

Still

a week is way too long

[wanton cliff]

noted

learning so much today

all on my quest to become a mod on this server and newegg employee

just for benefits on this server

any newegg job centers near chicago?

[eager flower]

Only time I would not reapply thermal paste is if you just applied it and you had to readjust the cooler without running

wait you from chicago?

[wanton cliff]

around there

why?

[eager flower]

So am I

[wanton cliff]

lit

[eager flower]

You can probably get a job at ABT or microcenter

but ABT is hard

what county?

[wanton cliff]

wdym what country

[eager flower]

county

[wanton cliff]

theres only one chicago

[eager flower]

lake, cook, kane

[wanton cliff]

oh county

not close enough to chicago for me to want to say

[muted patio]

@hollow grail that was before it wouldn't post silly

[eager flower]

Gotcha

[muted patio]

before he removed the cooler and put in new ram

[eager flower]

Chicago has a few microcenters you can apply to work at

https://www.abt.com/ also apply here its in cook county

if you're near that

[wanton cliff]

obviously im going to apply to one of those

but im joking about how it would be better to apply to a newegg because of the perks on this server and the perks on this server alone

[muted patio]

Just be sure to sell some Intel stuff too

[eager flower]

Newegg has no openings near chicago iirc

[wanton cliff]

lol ok

[hollow grail]

i know i just laughed

[muted patio]

LMAO

[hollow grail]

"my pc wont boot" "have u tried benchmarking it"

[muted patio]

XD

I know

[eager flower]

Best Techie right here

great start lmao

[muted patio]

Pff, lili is the storage queen for sure

[wanton cliff]

I want that message to be pinned lol

[muted patio]

I ain't got squat on that

[wanton cliff]

this one #building-and-recc-chat message

[eager flower]

storage queen sure

[muted patio]

context

[eager flower]

troubleshooting, dunno about that one

[wanton cliff]

dang I feel week here

[muted patio]

Eh

[wanton cliff]

surrounded by techies and basically junior mods

[muted patio]

It's just a label

[wanton cliff]

all I am is a booster at level 24

[muted patio]

We all still people you know

[wanton cliff]

well, level 25 now

[eager flower]

Hey I am VIP

[wanton cliff]

yeah you too

over level 30

[eager flower]

That just means I talked a lot

[muted patio]

Been here since 2019 though

[eager flower]

Damn

[wanton cliff]

long time

[muted patio]

Ye

Took a vacation for a time

[wanton cliff]

why tf am I here, I need to do japanese homework 畜生

[earnest olive]

I probably joined in december 2019

[eager flower]

Thats cool

I joined may 2020

[earnest olive]

since that's when I started becoming interested in computers

[muted patio]

LTT giveaway?

By chance?

[earnest olive]

my first build was around that time

I'm not sure

[muted patio]

12/5/2019 is an infamous day here XD

[hollow grail]

im not a person

i am a fool

[earnest olive]

I remember doing my first build in late december of 2019

[wanton cliff]

how much stuff did LTT give away?

[muted patio]

Nice

I don't remember

I never win anything

[wanton cliff]

my first build was a christmas present

[eager flower]

I joined cause of a giveaway lmao

and then needed troubleshooting help

[muted patio]

LTT?

[earnest olive]

yeah I made it a present to myself

[eager flower]

and then became active 5 months later, not LTT actually

twitter I think

[muted patio]

Myself, Hei, and quite a few others are here because of that giveaway

[eager flower]

I didn't watch LTT until recently

[wanton cliff]

The PC Master Race will rule supreme forever, and all are welcome to join in the glory of modding support, unlocked framerates, modern technology, and resolutions the human eye can't even see beyond!

[hollow grail]

i went here cause floppa was like

check this out

[earnest olive]

it might've been that but I don't remember for sure

[hollow grail]

[muted patio]

floppa?

I spank

[eager flower]

Now you surpassed him lmao

[hollow grail]

ikr

[earnest olive]

smurfing

[eager flower]

My friend is here too

he never talks

[gleaming quartz]

same here

[eager flower]

Nvm he left lmaoo

[gleaming quartz]

he just joined because i told him there were cool pc pics and tips here lol

[wanton cliff]

my friend here too, @fierce vortex

not a very high rank

he could probs be a techie tho

[wanton cliff]

tech tips perhaps?

[gleaming quartz]

yeah i guess

[hollow grail]

i could be a techie

[earnest olive]

no you can't