building-and-recc-chat

[eternal meteor]

@verbal quarry even going off the AMD compatibility list i had to buy 3 different ram sets before i found one that gave me 3200mhz, all the others only ran at 2133mhz, and i heard that is common with AMD builds that sometimes ram even when listed on AMD's site wont run as listed, so buy from somewhere that has a good return policy FYI

[verbal quarry]

oh wow thanks for the heads up

also do you know if newegg has a good return policy? 😂

[eternal meteor]

make sure to check your actual ram speed in the bios

I honestly dont know becuase when i built mine 2 months ago all the ram i needed was out of stock on newegg

and make sure you buy ram in a kit, dont buy a 2 2x kits, buy a 4x kit if you want 4 sticks or you will have major issues

[idle finch]

i just built my first computer, but when i went to boot it up i got a black screen and a funny red led on my motherboard (b450 aurus m). anyone know why

[eternal meteor]

its not posting

i would check all your power connections on motherboard

[idle finch]

i have the 24 pin connected

and i think everything else

[eternal meteor]

if that doesnt work check your power supply and make sure if it has a switch on the back its set to correct voltage

[idle finch]

how do i change the voltage

[eternal meteor]

its a little red switch that switches between 220v and 120v if you have it one your psu

[plush mist]

whats going on

[eternal meteor]

9 times out of 10 its a incorrect wire plugged in somewhere fish or a wire missing completely like your 4+4 pin

[idle finch]

4 plus 4 goes into gpy right

gpu

[eternal meteor]

my mobo's all have a 4+4 on them

[idle finch]

ill check if i have that plugged in thxsm

[eternal meteor]

read your mobo instructions and watch a youtube vid on that specific mobo if you can find it is what id do @idle finch

[short ruin]

hey guys

clear cable combs for my cable extensions or black?

@austere condor

[austere condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dry-heave-throw-up-vomit-gross-ew-gif-4726988

not clear

very much not clear

[wicked frigate]

Hey can anyone help me on which gpu I should get on this old system because I am only getting 20-60 frames

I don’t want anything to overspill

Overkill

@wicked frigate me when you can help me out thx

[toxic oar]

I mean koss sort of did that with their old models that were closed back

They created the bias voltage in cup

[fluid raven]

it you

what are the 95x mods needed for bass

[toxic oar]

Yea, jade sucks in basically most categories other than looks. If it had the 95x or sigma driver in it though it would probably be great

Depends on the category and which stax but post mod 95x all around beats most stax I have heard so far

[toxic oar]

It's mostly for sound stage and mid accuracy and detail that I modded them but you can gain some bass extension with the dekoni pads

[fluid raven]

all I needed to know

would it even come close to good planar bass tho

[toxic oar]

But the other mods are much more important

[toxic oar]

Way more accurate and impactful that any planars at the price until you get to the lowest of sub bass frequencies where it rolls off

Not in detail but in amount

[fluid raven]

hmmm

these phantoms have GOOD bass

I'd be curious

[toxic oar]

@fluid raven loud bass isn't the same as detailed or directional

Or impactful even

[fluid raven]

it's impactful

it has the slam without being muddy

[toxic oar]

95x is far from the loudest bass I have heard but because the massive driver it is the second to most impactful bass

I haven't heard the phantom but just looking at how boosted the bass is it is not going to have any directionality and closed backs with that much boost and no room to dissipate the bass lose detail

[fluid raven]

idk what you mean by looking athe bass since it has no graph but

you take the foam out and they just

[still roost]

kuzu | BLM#5709 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[fluid raven]

cannot recommend enough if you're in that price bracket

[toxic oar]

@fluid raven you mean the empire ears phantom?

Also I agree with your name

6xx is pretty lowfi at a mid fi price

[fluid raven]

no the thieaudio phantom over ears

[toxic oar]

Never heard of them

But again doubt they compete with the base esp95x in many ways even because stock no planar I have heard matches it in separation, imaging, especially not detail, and especially not mid accuracy

[fluid raven]

I mean honestly there's only one thing these headphones bother me with, ever

EVER

the hiss on S's

otherwise the sub-bass, yadda yadda, it's fantastic

no sennheiser veil

[toxic oar]

Sennheiser isn't really a good benchmark for what a headphone should sound like though

They have like 2 headphones worth buying for specific uses and a ton of bad headphones

[fluid raven]

why is the veil a thing

like I've literally never heard other headphones that do that

[toxic oar]

@fluid raven because the diaghram stretches

Also looked into them and this is the fr

[fluid raven]

what is the fr

for phantoms?

[toxic oar]

They also apparently don't have the detail of a normal planar or a wide sound stage or good imaging and share a sound signature sort of like a darker he5se so I think you really will be surprised by how good the 95x is

It won't be as loud for 10 to 50hz tones but will be all around better outside of that with more impact so I think you will still like then

[fluid raven]

hmm perhaps

I still think these are a good headphone, just not for $350 normally

I think they should work on their build materials n such, make it cheaper

[toxic oar]

Material cost usually isn't that much for headphones

Even top end ones

If they wanted to lower the cost they could

Like raw materials of an hd800 are probably like $10 at most

[fluid raven]

"triple lacquered black walnut" or whatever, make it plastic

and the grates, make those plastic too

[toxic oar]

That would save them a dollar or 2

[fluid raven]

all that needs to feel solid is the headband, nothin else

either way I got these off of ebay for less and I'm happy

[toxic oar]

No big deal, just saying I think you will be pleasantly impressed by the 95x

[fluid raven]

well, I'll keep an eye out for deals

I really, REALLY, do need the bass slam though

[toxic oar]

Also incase I didn't mention it here and anyone here is thinking if getting a stax 001mk2 the detail is about on par with s sundara with the sound stage being between a 599 and hd700 with obviously way better imaging than eny of those

[fluid raven]

Imaging<

[toxic oar]

Imaging is like instrument separation and location and scale in the sound stage @fluid raven

Used stax iems are honestly great deals especially if they come with the ces a1

[fluid raven]

I'm saying I don't care about imaging

just tell me this, do the 95x have any s hiss

does it hiss

when he says rhapsody

[toxic oar]

No

They are the most detailed trebbke headphone but also the smoothest trebbke headphone I have ever heard

With no exception

At any price point that I have heard

[fluid raven]

did you actually listen before you said that

cuz man that s hisses on EVERYTHING, no matter what I do

[toxic oar]

95x isn't siblant

[slender sparrow]

Huh

[fluid raven]

hmm

I'll keep my eyes peeled on ebay

although it's unlikely

[winged tinsel]

What’s the cheapest but reliable AIO I could buy?

[fluid raven]

corsair a60?

[stoic island]

@earnest olive might be your time

[earnest olive]

huh

I haven't tried any id-cooling aio

[little osprey]

how bad would it be to match my 2600 with a 3070

[stoic island]

not

it won't blow up or anything

[little osprey]

i mean bottle necking lol

[stoic island]

try it yourself

[little osprey]

ight

[slender sparrow]

Any one know why my pc crashing it’s brand new build built it on Christmas. It crashes and turns everything off except it’s self. Monitors black keyboard and mouse all shut off I have 5700xt and 3800x with 650 bronze psu and B450 tomahawk max

[stoic island]

gpu drivers

[slender sparrow]

I have the download

Should I lower my ram speed

It’s at 3600

Should I lower it to 3200

Do I need to download my mother board drivers?

[devout pewter]

If it BSODs, what’s the code it spits at you?

[slender sparrow]

Nothing

It just black screens

And restarting

[muted patio]

SOunds like thermals

What are the CPU and GPU temps?

[slender sparrow]

50 degree

While play EFT

[muted patio]

Which one is 50?

[slender sparrow]

Gpu

[muted patio]

what about cpu?

[slender sparrow]

How do I check cpu

[muted patio]

HWINFO64

Or Ryzen master

[devout pewter]

Or ryzen master

[muted patio]

Your choice

[devout pewter]

Ryzen master is easier to work with

But hwinfo64 has all the information

If temps aren’t the issue, it could be your PSU

[slender sparrow]

It’s not psu

Because the computer doesn’t turn of

Off

Only the perifals

So it’s gpu or mb

Do I return both and get new one

I got them a week ago

[worthy fable]

I am building my first PC and have everything except a GPU :/

I am really happy though and blessed being able to practice building one!

😄

[slender sparrow]

Don’t

Pc sucks

And have to many issues

[worthy fable]

My motherboard doesn't have on-board graphics..

[slender sparrow]

No mother boards do

[worthy fable]

no mine doesn't have them tho

[slender sparrow]

NONE DO

That’s not a thing

Only cpu have integrated graphics

[worthy fable]

thats what I meant 🤦‍♂️ sorry

lol

my CPU doesnt

R7 2700x

[devout pewter]

@slender sparrow did you check the cpu temp?

Also just cause the computer didn’t shut off, doesn’t mean the psu isn’t potentially at fault

[still roost]

Squid252#4120 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[slender sparrow]

Nope

I lowered ram

Doing a eft raid rn

See if I crahs

[elder loom]

Enjoy your ban

[still roost]

Squid252#4120 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[elder loom]

@twilit orchid looks like you didn't want to be here either, take care

[slender sparrow]

So I I lowered my ram speed

And im@ it crashing every 5 min

[uneven mist]

go into bios and reset the ram speed?

[left shore]

Hello

[uneven mist]

hi!

[left shore]

Can someone make me a 500 dollar build list for a gaming PC

It doesn't have to be super over the line but decent enough to run games at like 60

[slender sparrow]

I’m not

@uneven mist

Is waht I meant sorry

So I think that fixed the problem

[uneven mist]

oh

ok lmao

what ram do u have?

and did u have xmp enabled

[slender sparrow]

Not sure why it did @

Idk

[uneven mist]

are u on an intel or amd cpu?

[slender sparrow]

Aall@amd

And

And

[formal cosmos]

i’m really thinking of getting slower ram for rgb 😪

shiiii

idk

[uneven mist]

but

wat cpu r u going with?

[muted patio]

The 3600 is only $90

[uneven mist]

if its amd go with the 3200 anyways

[formal cosmos]

here’s my list

[devout pewter]

@slender sparrow did you try to OC the ram originally?

[muted patio]

For RGB

not that bad

[formal cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NcPVbh

[uneven mist]

i have crucial ballistix 3200

is fine

[muted patio]

For 3000 series and above, 3600 C16. For 5000 series, you can push 4000

[devout pewter]

For any ram kit at 3600 for 90 is good

Especially ballistix

[muted patio]

Micron Rev E chips

good stuff

[devout pewter]

Yup

[formal cosmos]

the ballistix non rgb 3600 16gb is $75 and the 3200 with rgb is $80

[devout pewter]

@muted patio did the new microcode adjust ryzen 5000 to have a stable 2000 fclk?

AMD kept claiming it would

[muted patio]

Some. It's getting there

[wicked frigate]

Hey can anyone help me on which gpu I should get on this old system because I am only getting 20-60 frames

[muted patio]

AGESA needs a little more work

[devout pewter]

Makes sense

[muted patio]

That's a PCI-E 2.0 motherboard man

[wicked frigate]

Can I get any gpu

??

[devout pewter]

Thankfully I’m on x470, so I have to wait until feb anyways

[muted patio]

It's not worth getting a GPU is my point

[wicked frigate]

Ok but what gpu would go with it

[devout pewter]

@wicked frigate FM1 socket is ancient

[wicked frigate]

I only get 10-60 FPS

Ok

[devout pewter]

Look for a board with the AM4 socket

B550 or A520

[muted patio]

Uh

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[muted patio]

That's what he has right now lol

[wicked frigate]

Thx

[devout pewter]

Oh

[muted patio]

AM4 isn'ta GPU bud

[wicked frigate]

Yah sadly

But I am build one

[devout pewter]

Oh ignore me

I saw 3600

Not that old fx chip

Ooooof

[wicked frigate]

Should I get toshiba or western digital

[muted patio]

@formal cosmos performance is worth more than RGB

[formal cosmos]

ye

and i’m thinking of getting 6 of these fans for my pc ARCTIC P12 PWM PST - 120 mm Case Fan with PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, Quiet Motor, Computer, Fan Speed: 200-1800 RPM - White/White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081VPP24C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_fLM9Fb4W5E5C4?psc=1

[muted patio]

For an AIO?

[wicked frigate]

I got Corsair ll series

For my aio

[formal cosmos]

is 3600 speed a big difference from 3200?

[formal cosmos]

no

[muted patio]

It's a performance boost yes

[formal cosmos]

so... a big difference?

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio if I am getting white fans with black case what color aio

[muted patio]

I mean, define big

Yeah, it's worth it over RGB

RGB won't make things run faster. 😉

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio

[muted patio]

In these tests, anywhere from 2-10 FPS

Just for ram

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

[devout pewter]

If timings are the same, 3600 will give around a 5% boost over 3200

Approximately

[muted patio]

And people totally forget that for 3200 ram on Ryzen, it should be C14 to be optimal

[devout pewter]

Yea

3200 CL14 beats 3600 CL16 in most cases

Especially on ryzen

3600 CL16 can be tightened down to 3200 CL14 most of the time if you know what you’re doing

[formal cosmos]

so... should i get 3200 CL14?

[devout pewter]

If it’s cheaper or the same price, go for it

[slender sparrow]

YES

@devout pewter when the ram came it was at 2666\

but its 3600 ram

i put to 3600

know i lowered it to 3200

[devout pewter]

so you had it set to XMP?

[left shore]

Can someone make me a gaming PC parts list for 500 USD used parts acceptable

[slender sparrow]

idk what that means

[left shore]

??

[next kestrel]

then dont respond?

[muted patio]

XMP = "factory" ram settings

[valid dust]

hey guys! Im new here. 🙂 I recently purchased a 2080 rtx xc and was wondering if there were any waterblocks for it at all?

[hollow grail]

check out ekwb

[uneven mist]

2080 ti super or ?

[valid dust]

whats that?

[uneven mist]

they make watercooling gear

[valid dust]

not a super nor a ti 😦

[stoic island]

ek waterblocks

[uneven mist]

ok

https://www.ekwb.com/

[stoic island]

they're the most mainstream custom loop guys afaik

[hollow grail]

yeah

they make good stuff too for the most part

i like their aios

[harsh pollen]

hello
im making a pc for a friend
can someone reccomend parts
he has a EVGA RTX 3070 ULTRA XC3 and he would like to spend less than $1000

[stoic island]

1000$ for everything but the 3070?

[uneven mist]

@valid dust do u have gaming or gaming ultra?

[harsh pollen]

yes

[hollow grail]

wtf they do prebuilts now

[stoic island]

@hollow grail they made some like a year ago

[uneven mist]

@valid dust https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/step1_complist

[hollow grail]

https://www.ekfluidgaming.com/nvidia-gaming-pc

[uneven mist]

huhhhh????

since when

[hollow grail]

i cant tell if theyre awful or not tbh

cause custom loop expensive

[uneven mist]

yeah

there parts are all latest tho

[left shore]

Someone plz help lol

[uneven mist]

like ryzen 5000 series

and nvidia 3000 series

[left shore]

Anyone lol

[uneven mist]

with ?

[valid dust]

i have the gaming

[stoic island]

@harsh pollen smth like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YTLsj2

[uneven mist]

aight

[left shore]

Can someone make me a gaming PC build list for 600 USD

[valid dust]

im just making sure because I do not see any out there that are strickly for the 2080 rtx. I see alot for the super and ti though

[harsh pollen]

ok thanks

[left shore]

Anyone?

Used parts are acceptable

[uneven mist]

@left shore try give it a shot yourself and we can fix it up

[left shore]

Alright

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3VVw8J

Well I tried but ran into a price constraint

@uneven mist

[uneven mist]

ok

[left shore]

Don't even have a GPU there yet

I'm ok with Used parts

[uneven mist]

i would say try add a 1660 super

[muted patio]

It's harder to do used parts than new. used part prices and availability vary wildly. It might be worth see what's available for complete used machines on a marketplace

[uneven mist]

^^

[left shore]

Oh ok

[muted patio]

Graphics cards right now are especially expensive

[left shore]

But can someone change my parts list around and make it around 600 USD

[muted patio]

I mean, my 2 year old graphics card is selling for what I paid for it 2 years ago on Ebay right now

[left shore]

I need 1 TB of storage and RGB if possible

Basically

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QDWVMQL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I just need it to be better than this lmao

[uneven mist]

what is it?

[muted patio]

RTX 2060 lol

I checked Ebay Tuesday

[uneven mist]

if your under budget i wouldnt suggest pushing rgb. most important thing is performance

[left shore]

Ok ok

[muted patio]

I serisouly just found a PC on my local marketplace with an I5 and 1050TI for $250

[uneven mist]

i5 what?

[hollow grail]

prolly 2nd gen

[uneven mist]

mhm

[muted patio]

Doesn't say

[hollow grail]

how fast did u buy it vintage

[muted patio]

Probs 4590 or something

[uneven mist]

lmao

[left shore]

Can you make me a decent 600 USD build that has a 1 TB SSD

[uneven mist]

what games u wanna play if any?

[left shore]

Apex and R6

Mostly just 60 FPS

[hidden ferry]

Anyone have a mobo recommendation for the Ryzen 9 5900X?

[left shore]

I just need it to better than this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QDWVMQL?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

What you think @uneven mist

[uneven mist]

well dont even think about buying that amazon one

[left shore]

It's for my friend

And he bought that for 500

[uneven mist]

u will barely even be able to install apex on that

[left shore]

I told him to return it

[muted patio]

he bought that?

O.o

[uneven mist]

lmao

[left shore]

That's why I'm asking for a parts list to build him one

[uneven mist]

hahaa

[left shore]

Lmaoo yeah he doesn't know much

He bought that for 500

For 500 you think you can do better than that?

[muted patio]

I don't even know where they got the parts for that

[left shore]

Frr

Y'all think y'all can help me out?

[muted patio]

That FX8800 processor?

[left shore]

That's a laptop CPU idk how they got it there

[muted patio]

It's 5 years old

[left shore]

Fax

[muted patio]

Nah, it's a desktop processor

But

[left shore]

No it's not lol

[muted patio]

integrated graphics

yes it is

[left shore]

AMD FX-8800P

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8800P&id=2567

[muted patio]

SIgh, not gonna argue. There's a desktop model too

"FM880PAAY43KAD is an OEM/tray microprocessor for desktop systems"

[left shore]

Well there's not mention online of the desktop version that's why I said that

[muted patio]

Anyway, it has integrated graphics with no GPU

SO I can work with that

[left shore]

I told him to return it

For 500 there are much better things to be build

Built

[hollow grail]

oh gronse those things are no good

and yeha vintage its a laptop cpu that they adapted to desktop because ???????????

[muted patio]

Well

It ain't pretty

[left shore]

For 500 you think we can get a system with a 1 TB SSD and some RGB too?

[muted patio]

Nah, it there's a desktop SKU and a laptop SKU

From AMD

Anyway

It ain't pretty

and will need an OS

but

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtPX3Z

Twice the ram too

Run circles around that thing he bought

Plus enough power to add a graphics card later

[left shore]

What GPU would you recommend?

Cuz he said if it needed to be 600 it could be

[muted patio]

For a $500 budget?

[hollow grail]

no like the architecture is laptop based

[muted patio]

Whatever you can find second hand

[hollow grail]

its like how china is making desktop intel laptop processors

iirc

[muted patio]

Oh yeah, the architecture is but it's a desktop socketed processor

"
FM880PAAY43KA is an OEM/tray microprocessor for notebooks
FM880PAAY43KAD is an OEM/tray microprocessor for desktop systems"

[hollow grail]

yep

its just so weird lol

[muted patio]

Well

What I built will run circles around it

60 FPS in 1080p

Instead of 50 FPS in 720P

[hollow grail]

a pi will run circles around it

[muted patio]

I don't even know where they got those parts TBH

SKETCH

[hollow grail]

Lmaoooo

[muted patio]

Probably a pirated OS too

They don't even MENTION an operating system

bet it doesn't have one

[left shore]

CyberPower GMA3000BST Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 8GB 240GB SSD 2TB HDD RX 580

For 520

[muted patio]

Where'd you find it for $520?

Ebay

?

[left shore]

Offer

Up

Ebay it's 510

Not bad

[slender sparrow]

Wtf it is happening again

Do I return my parts

What do u do

I do

[muted patio]

Did you ever check CPU temps?

[little osprey]

How is this build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sVn6y4

[spare yew]

is there any harm to running my pc without ram just for the rgb (other than collecting a bit of dust)?

[little osprey]

You can’t run windows or any application without ram

Just get prop ram from Corsair or something

[spare yew]

yea, I should've specified I was gonna turn it on just for the RGB looks on the outside and not actually using the system yet

[spare yew]

I have ram ordered from newegg, but Purolator slow asf

[hybrid tree]

Hey guys, I've been looking to splurge on a new computer for a while now. I know half of the parts aren't' available yet. I've spent a lot of time putting this together and I'm hoping to get some feedback on it. Am I making and mistakes? Am I spending too much on a particular item? I'll take any constructive criticism.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XRJnNP

[stoic island]

hm

@hybrid tree Are you building in the US or in Canada

[hybrid tree]

US

[stoic island]

prob want to take the ca. off the link

anyways

160 dollars for a K70 keeb is uh

interesting

[eternal meteor]

@hybrid tree get a 4x ram kit, 2- 2x kits are inviting trouble,

[stoic island]

@hybrid tree drp4 bit overkill for 5600x but if you really want to

@eternal meteor if they're the same kit, don't see anything wrong with it

[urban trellis]

Did anyone know that amd stock coolers can go to 2800 rpm

[stoic island]

my laptop fans can go 5600rpm

:P

[urban trellis]

Holy

I just built my pc yesterday

I got all drivers anything else I should do

[eternal meteor]

@stoic island call corsair or gskill and ask them if it's a good idea

They will tell you not to do it

[urban trellis]

5600 rpm???

[muted patio]

It's not inviting trouble lol

[urban trellis]

Nvm

[eternal meteor]

The kits are matched to work together, having made the mistake myself of buying 2-2x kits I know first hand the mess it can be

Well I'll take the word of corsair and gskill and my personal experience of them not working together over someone on discord

I'm sure you know way more then corsair about their ram

[stoic island]

Corsair is interesting

[eternal meteor]

We all bow down to you

[stoic island]

I understand mixing 2x8 corsair kits being troublesome tbh

[eternal meteor]

Nope just 2-2x kits from corsair

Call them and talk to the tech they have been answering the phone despite corona unlike gigabyte and so many other part manufactures

[stoic island]

fr?

I've been told corsair customer support has been dead during corona

like months to respond to emails

[severe axle]

someone on corsair discord mixed 2 vengance rgb kits, they were also different colors(regular and white version)

looked a bit strange

[stoic island]

they need dat rgb

[severe axle]

another person mixed dominators/vengance rgb

[wide sparrow]

[severe axle]

basically, it should be fine

[stoic island]

@hybrid tree anyways, on with the list, x570 tomahawk wifi is a bit of an expensive board, something like a B550 aorus elite ax does most of the things the tomahawk does for ~50$ cheaper

[eternal meteor]

Here is my 2 packs of corsair ram that did not work because it's a matched set that I am stuck with, have exact same part numbers bought from same place that has a huge restocking fee, but hey when I called corsair and they told me I needed a 4x kit what do they know, I should of asked for help on discord and would of been told it's fine

[viral ore]

what motherboard?

and whats the part number

[next kestrel]

does each kit work on its own?

[stoic island]

Next, 1tb 660p at 110$ just isn't great, you can get MP34 at the same price, which gets you TLC, Phison E12 controller, and better read writes

on top of something like a MP34 having like 4x the rated TBW endurance

[hollow grail]

qlc cring

also ive had 660p not even hit rated tbw which is PATHETIC cause its so low already

[eternal meteor]

Then I called gskill because I couldn't find a 4x kit anywhere in stock and asked them if 2 kits would be ok and they also told me no to buy a 4x or they won't gaurantee it to work either

Other ram companies might be different I guess but I am guessing not, they both told me they are matched and tested to work together when you buy kits

[stoic island]

tbh, I don't really know why g.skill rep would say that

because they're good about stuffing the right dram into the same kit

[viral ore]

because theyre reading from a script halfway across the world.

[stoic island]

instead of corsair just stuffing random things into their kits

[viral ore]

duh

[eternal meteor]

Also AMD compatibility list doesn't mean it will work either, for my wife's pc I built the one on left which is on the compatibility list doesn't run at 3000mhz and the one on the right runs at 3200mhz fine

[viral ore]

AMD compatibility list, or motherboard memory QVL?

theres a difference

also, you havent mentioned timings

[eternal meteor]

Both cross referenced of course

[next kestrel]

strange, i havent looked at a QVL list or compatibility once

and all ram ran fine lmao

in my 30+ pcs ive built, as long as it was DDR4

on a system intended for ddr4

[viral ore]

also, XMP is never guarenteed, and really varies by motherboard

[eternal meteor]

Well I have only built 7 so far so I am no expert, but I rely on the companies who sell me the products expertise and that's what I try to go by, they haven't steered me wrong yet

[viral ore]

yikes, well, theres your first problem

trusting the company

[normal osprey]

Finnaly got my hands on a gpu

Can yall make me something that builds around this gpu

I was gonna pair it witha ryzen 5 3600

[hollow grail]

wow u got scammed lol

[severe axle]

that is the big scam

[hollow grail]

got scammed twice imo

first scam was buying an amd card

second scam was paying that much for it

[formal cosmos]

hello again

does it matter what ethernet cable i use if my speeds are 25 mbps

ik

it’s ass

[hollow grail]

no

u can use a bent coat hanger and be fine

[formal cosmos]

LMFAO 😭💀

what’re your speeds?

[hollow grail]

me?

https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/58dd76ad-0cb9-4af5-ab24-54ac04d1fb0c

[formal cosmos]

yeah

DAMN

how much do you pay?

[hollow grail]

too much

[formal cosmos]

so... a cat 5 cable is ight

[hybrid tree]

@stoic island & @eternal meteor I really appreciate the time you took to take a look at my build and to give me feedback!

[hollow grail]

its just a box i have in a datacenter

my home speed is lame

just 1000/50

[formal cosmos]

.

[hollow grail]

yea

[formal cosmos]

i literally pay $10 a month 😭

[hollow grail]

mine is over 500/m

[uneven mist]

haaaaaaa?

500 hundo

[hollow grail]

yeah

[plush mist]

Wth

5600x with a 1660s

[unique kite]

whats the best PSU thats 700W and is 80+ certified?

[hollow grail]

leadex iii

[dry phoenix]

looking at this https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali469/p/N82E16883360054?Item=N82E16883360054
I'm just playing warzone but wanting to get good fps (over 100 on ultra settings etc) - think this is the right one?

wait for gpu / cpu is killing me so thinking just a prebuild

[hollow grail]

xoticpc is much better

[worn crane]

Working on this flip rn

[dry phoenix]

ty ill check them out

any recommendations?

[hollow grail]

generally go for budget and the parts you want and youll be fine

[junior crescent]

what's the best cpu that isn't the 5000s series cpu's for gaming, streaming and editing

[uneven mist]

planning on getting a 3000 series card when theyre in stock

[plush mist]

Ohhhh ok makes sense

[uneven mist]

1660s is just my old card that im using as a filler

[ionic osprey]

Anyone have recommended build $800 for rx 5600 xt? Please sir

[fleet pagoda]

I had 2 doa motherboards my friends said that i could of messed them up but how would i of done that

I was grounded also

I was being careful and extremely cautious

@ me if someone responds ty

[silent canyon]

is there a cpu that is too fast that will bottleneck a 3070

[fleet pagoda]

Doubt

[uneven mist]

not really but your better off evening them out

rather then over spending

just get what ur gpu needs and add more money for like mobo or ram budget idk

unless u really badly need cpu power

[silent canyon]

no i was just curious for when i upgrade

i probably wont go overkill on it but i dont want to bottleneck

[severe trench]

Can someone give me a list my budget is 1500 dollars thank you

[dense brook]

ryzen 2600 and rtx 3060 bottleneck?

[severe trench]

Sure

[silent canyon]

yes depending on the game

[dense brook]

damn

[uneven mist]

u would want at least a 3600 or x for a 3060ti

[severe trench]

Thanks guys

[little osprey]

uh

im hungy

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-know-how-to-cook-vinny-question-what-are-we-going-to-eat-cant-cook-gif-13920134

[verbal quarry]

if i were to build my set up and us an rx 550 for a filler would that work?

im buying a 3700x and a asus tuf x570-plus

[finite light]

Im about to build my first pc what are the best parts to build a gaming pc

i also am getting 2 monitors

[gleaming quartz]

depends

whats your budget, first of all?

[cursive magnet]

Main downside to going with Micro ATX?

[finite light]

umm under 1k

[arctic jungle]

what fans are in the masterbox td500 mesh

[cursive magnet]

Don’t know, but I have that case and they’re quiet

[finite light]

and newegg has good parts right?

[wanton cliff]

yes

it only sells parts and other electronic things

[still bay]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IY6W6YhyjnzSvi8BqEqiK1xykSiTDF2Lt1FO8cNhI6I/edit#gid=585498417 man the people that make these kind of things are awesome

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg/edit#gid=0

[wanton cliff]

what is it exactly?

[still bay]

which one

[wanton cliff]

both

[still bay]

ratings of motherboards

[wanton cliff]

ah

[still bay]

one is for lga 1151 on is for lga 1200

[wanton cliff]

I dont do intel so it dont really matter to me

Im pretty sure Aorus is at the bottom of the list?

[still bay]

no aorus has decent vrms

1 b, 2 a's, 2 S+'s

[wanton cliff]

whats the best?

[still bay]

in terms of this rating aorus master/extreme or one of the maximus', also the unify and ace have S+

g-like weirdly enough has only S

[wanton cliff]

i meant all together

best intel mobo from all intel mobos on LGA1151 and 1200?

[still bay]

oh

well theres more intel platform than that

[wanton cliff]

yeah ik

[still bay]

the lists are made by different people

so the lga 1151 doesnt just have an S+ or B rating

bc the lga 1151 also focuses on like features

[gleaming quartz]

including peripherals?

[finite light]

whats that haha im new

[still bay]

monitor keyboard mouse

[wanton cliff]

keyboard, mouse, monitor

[still bay]

headset

[wanton cliff]

etc

[finite light]

umm no

just parts

[still bay]

okay

ur gonna have to wait a few months btw

[wanton cliff]

3070 is good for a 1k build but scalpers

[still bay]

all prices are stupid high rn

or out of stock

[finite light]

i was looking at clear cases and found a couple but id like more

[finite light]

y

[gleaming quartz]

you could probably get a 3060 ti in this current climate

[still bay]

all prices are stupid high rn
or out of stock

[finite light]

oh ok

[gleaming quartz]

because the market is inflated rn

[still bay]

@wanton cliff idk looking at the asus price changes no

[wanton cliff]

what did Asus do?

[still bay]

all technology prices are gonna take a massive hit

they increased all 30 series cards by like 100-200 dollars

retail

[finite light]

what about amazon

[wanton cliff]

why tf would they do that?

[still bay]

because of the ended trades with china

[finite light]

amazon is ok prises

[wanton cliff]

everywhere

[gleaming quartz]

the tariff laws are also going to impact the gpu market

[still bay]

^

[finite light]

oh

[still bay]

so maybe a 3060ti

[wanton cliff]

best buy, B&H, Amazon, Newegg, and so many more

[finite light]

what about power boxes

[still bay]

power boxes?

[gleaming quartz]

psus?

[finite light]

ye like best power size

[wanton cliff]

power supplies?

[finite light]

yea whatever it is

[wanton cliff]

idk, 750? 650 and 750 are both good for a 1k build

[still bay]

probably 750w for ur price

[finite light]

mf battery😆

[gleaming quartz]

uhhhh so for a 1k build i would think you would want a 650/700w

[wanton cliff]

not a battery

[finite light]

ok i was looking at 700 and 750

[still bay]

anything thats 750w 80+ bronze or above is good

[wanton cliff]

i would go 750

[still bay]

do not get an rgb power supply

[finite light]

im joking

[wanton cliff]

doesnt have to be 80+ gold

[still bay]

i said bronze.

[gleaming quartz]

bruh i have a 1500 build and im running off of 600w

[wanton cliff]

oh i didnt see

[finite light]

whats the difference

[still bay]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006?Description=super flower 750w&cm_re=super_flower 750w-_-9SIAMNPAY44279-_-Product&quicklink=true

[wanton cliff]

i was just saying in general

[still bay]

go for that

[gleaming quartz]

if it works and its cheaper, i would say go for it

[wanton cliff]

im on 650w. Thing is, Ampere power draw spikes often so its best to overpay on PSUs

[gleaming quartz]

makes sense

[finite light]

thats good priced

[still bay]

it is very good priced and it wont explode

[finite light]

hopefully

not

[still bay]

nah its super flower

they are very good

[finite light]

ok but what about cases what are some of the best clear cases

[still bay]

by clear do u mean like the whole thing is see through or side panel?

[wanton cliff]

all clear or just a tempered glass side panel?

[finite light]

whole

[still bay]

uh

none

[wanton cliff]

you type faster than me dammit

[gleaming quartz]

like tempered glass cases, right?

[finite light]

damn fr

[still bay]

yeah they all suck

and are allprob on like aliexpress

[wanton cliff]

well

O11

[still bay]

oh fine

o11

[finite light]

clear cases look best on pc builds

[still bay]

not for a 1k budget

[still bay]

eh

[wanton cliff]

yeah but it exists

[finite light]

well itll go up

[wanton cliff]

but thats just about the only one i'd reccommend

[still bay]

look up lian li lancool ii mesh, td500, p500a, 4000d

[finite light]

ok

[wanton cliff]

P300 works well too

[gleaming quartz]

like just open side panels, you mean?

[still bay]

theres other cases too if u dont like those

meshify c

[finite light]

no the whole case clear

[still bay]

bruh

[arctic jungle]

@stoic island crucial p1 vs crucial p2 vs mp34

[still bay]

u just said whole case clear

[finite light]

what

[wanton cliff]

you cant get one of those in your budget

[still bay]

#storage-devices

[arctic jungle]

no

[still bay]

yes

[finite light]

really

[arctic jungle]

don't bug me ty :)

[finite light]

how much are they

[wanton cliff]

tag lili instead lol

not mr 1111

[arctic jungle]

tru

[still bay]

mr1111 is a noob anywys

[wanton cliff]

150-200 average

the O11 mini exists but is hard to build in for first timers

[finite light]

oh

[arctic jungle]

@hollow grail ur storage queen crucial p1 vs crucial p2 vs mp34

[still bay]

sfx psu doesnt go well with a 1k budget

basically bro for ur budget u just gotta get a standard case

with a tempered glass side panel

[wanton cliff]

I was saying its not a good case for this situation anyways

[arctic jungle]

a local shop is giving me any one of those for 65$ bc they're open box

so

yeah

[wanton cliff]

what, SFX PSUs?

[still bay]

why dont u just google the speeds of it

[hollow grail]

i like the mp34

[still bay]

google is free

[wanton cliff]

hey lili

[arctic jungle]

me too but like- the P2 is better, no?

[hollow grail]

p2 is hmb if i recall

[finite light]

if there 150-200 ill pay that for a whole clear case

[wanton cliff]

hold my beer?

[hollow grail]

hey babe

[arctic jungle]

uhoh

ok mp34 is is then

[still bay]

thats a fifth of ur budget for just the case

[wanton cliff]

but it dont fit in your budget. You would get a crap rest of your PC if you get that

[still bay]

i dont know what u mean by whole clear case

can u link an example?

[hollow grail]

what size tho antago

[wanton cliff]

I think he just means the whole thing is tempered glass

[arctic jungle]

1 tb

[finite light]

ok ill just get good parts then after that ill just buy the case

[still bay]

show us what case u want

[finite light]

yea

[wanton cliff]

not how this works

[still bay]

lol

[arctic jungle]

@hollow grail

1tb

[hollow grail]

oh not bad

id look at p1 vs mp34

[wanton cliff]

Just get something with a tempered glass side panel. P400a Digital is a really good case that you might like

[hollow grail]

tbw/speeds

[finite light]

@still bay might just get this looks good https://www.newegg.com/white-montech-x1-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00CN-00012?Description=clear case&cm_re=clear_case-_-9SIAK91BP89584-_-Product&quicklink=true

even tho its side

[wanton cliff]

so just a side panel

like weve been saying

[still bay]

no i think he means the front

[wanton cliff]

Meshify C then

[still bay]

how its open

lancool ii mesh works

p400a

[finite light]

i know but side and the whole glass are the same

[wanton cliff]

no lol

[still bay]

bro what

[finite light]

it dosent really matter to me

[still bay]

okay we know what u mena

[wanton cliff]

look at O11 Dynamic

[still bay]

dw

[finite light]

aslong as its clear and looks good

[wanton cliff]

P400a digital

[arctic jungle]

so wait

[finite light]

those are nice

[wanton cliff]

this reminds me of Linus's Pyramid build

[arctic jungle]

@hollow grail then is P1 better than P2?

[still bay]

bro omg look it up

[arctic jungle]

so which one do i get

[wanton cliff]

specifically the part about how linus hates the person buying it

[finite light]

lol

[arctic jungle]

mp34 or one of the crucials

[hollow grail]

p1 better than p2, but iirc mp34 best

not sure tho

[arctic jungle]

ok

ty

mp34 it is

[finite light]

im talking about a gaming pc even tho its just a difference in the graphic card

[wanton cliff]

the only difference between a gaming pc and a work PC is far from just the GPU

[finite light]

oh ok

[wanton cliff]

there is no 'only one difference'

[finite light]

true

[wanton cliff]

there's CPU, cooling, GPU, case, RAM, RGB, and a ton of other things

[finite light]

i meant like good parts just a lower fps

so better graphic card

[wanton cliff]

idk what you mean

like you want the most out of your GPU?

[finite light]

i need all good parts but i want a better graphic card of all the parts if that makes sence

[wanton cliff]

thing is

its really easy to get a better graphics card than the rest of your parts right now

[finite light]

im going to need better parts for better graphic card

[wanton cliff]

not quite

this generation's GPUs are really good

[finite light]

oh

[verbal quarry]

what is a decent amount of storage for games

stuff like modern warfare

[gleaming quartz]

i dont think the graphics card is dependent on other parts in order for it to have higher fidelity

[wanton cliff]

terabyte

to start

[finite light]

arent more people buying/building pcs at this time in the world?

[verbal quarry]

well im looking at a 4tb

[wanton cliff]

no, just everything is being scalped

[gleaming quartz]

yeah...? i guess idk

[wanton cliff]

if its in your budget go for it

[wanton cliff]

not necessarily

[finite light]

have you build a pc before

[wanton cliff]

everything is being scalped right now

[finite light]

@wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

a few, yes

why?

[finite light]

whats your favorite

[wanton cliff]

probs my first

[finite light]

type and parts

forget the budget

why the first

[wanton cliff]

Gaming, 5700XT, R5 3600, 16 gigs of 3600mhz c18 RAM, 1tb of M.2 storage, all on a B450-F gaming from Asus

[finite light]

all from asus?

[wanton cliff]

no

[gleaming quartz]

b450 mobos are pretty good for their price

tbh

[wanton cliff]

just the mobos

[finite light]

ok

[wanton cliff]

I got it a year ago, so they were more worth it then

[verbal quarry]

im looking at crucial 2x16 3600 and tridentz 3600. which is better?

[wanton cliff]

whichever is cheaper tbh

[finite light]

lol

[wanton cliff]

both Crucial and G.Skill are great RAM Manufacturers

you win either way

if you prefer good looks though, I would go for TridentZ

[wanton cliff]

any more questions?

[finite light]

not for now thanks for your help

[wanton cliff]

no prob

come back anytime

[finite light]

ok

[wanton cliff]

you are officially a regular now so have fun

[finite light]

lmao what does that mean

[wanton cliff]

check your roles

[finite light]

i just joined a few minutes ago before we started talking

ok

ok haha

[thorny tusk]

Nice

[finite light]

yea

[gleaming quartz]

ive been here for like 4 months and ive never escaped regular+

lol

[wanton cliff]

need to be level 20

[finite light]

dam

[next kestrel]

ive been here for around a year

[wanton cliff]

ive been here like a month and a half and i'm elite

[gleaming quartz]

oh its a leveling based system?

got it

[next kestrel]

but i dont talk unless i really want to

[verbal quarry]

what are some good hdd brands?

[wanton cliff]

go to ranks and levels and do !rank

[thorny tusk]

How to spam

[finite light]

wtf i been here less than an hour

[wanton cliff]

earlier levels are a lot easier

dang Merny is only level 12

RIP merny

[gleaming quartz]

yeah lol

i never talk here

[wanton cliff]

how long have you been here again?

[gleaming quartz]

like 4 months

~=

[wanton cliff]

ah lol

[finite light]

you need to talk to lever up

[gleaming quartz]

yeah ik

[wanton cliff]

thats certainly a name

[finite light]

that was a question

[wanton cliff]

yes

[finite light]

but you yea ya like it haha

[gleaming quartz]

sure

[finite light]

it was supposed to be but yea you like it

[finite light]

thx

[wanton cliff]

I plan on keeping that one build that I mentioned as my main build forever, just swapping various parts out when they become obsolete or when something else is better

[gleaming quartz]

why do people have multiple builds

[wanton cliff]

helps with streaming and recording, among other things

[gleaming quartz]

just stick with one

ig

thats what multiple monitors are for too idk

[wanton cliff]

streaming and recording with a capture card is a lot safer and a lot of times easier than with OBS natively, for example

cause sometimes your video encode (and subsequently the whole recording) gets messed up when your GPU encode gets overtaxed by the rest of the system

[gleaming quartz]

makes sense

[finite light]

true

[wanton cliff]

so its better to use another system that isnt being taxed at all

I use my dad's PC that I just built him for streaming and recording using an Elgato that I had lying around, for example

1660s, 3600x

16gb 3200

[finite light]

you do youtube?

[wanton cliff]

mostly twitch

I find streaming easier

[finite light]

why noediting

[wanton cliff]

editing is dull work

[finite light]

haha

[wanton cliff]

long and tedious

[finite light]

are you big

[wanton cliff]

god no

lol

I wish

[finite light]

one day

[wanton cliff]

I dont even have affiliate yet

[finite light]

but what do you stream

[wanton cliff]

Halo, SCP, some VR games,

mostly whatever I feel like playing

[finite light]

ok just get a bunch of friends to play with

and stream with them like among us cause thats hot

[wanton cliff]

easier said than done

[gleaming quartz]

i see you were playing ftb infinity

[finite light]

make funny stuff

[gleaming quartz]

thats a good modpack tbh

[wanton cliff]

at one point, yeah

[wanton cliff]

I dont play games that are too oversaturated

harder to get views

[finite light]

probably but thats why i want a pc

[wanton cliff]

just for among us?

[finite light]

no

[wanton cliff]

doesnt that game cap out at 30fps anyways?

[gleaming quartz]

yeah the discovery with those types of games is actually garbage

[finite light]

school too and other gaes

games

[wanton cliff]

games like?

[gleaming quartz]

it caps at 60

[finite light]

any games i mostly play ps4

but im gonna build a pc

and on ps4 i played fornite minecraft baseball and a bunch more

[gleaming quartz]

huh

[finite light]

what

[wanton cliff]

you need WiFi or are you going to use ethernet?

[finite light]

i played those on ps4

tf is ethernet

[wanton cliff]

wired internet

better than wifi

[finite light]

oh yea i use that too

[gleaming quartz]

its probably what your ps4 is plugged into

[finite light]

yea i use it

[wanton cliff]

ok

[finite light]

why

[wanton cliff]

then I dont need to get a wifi card for you

[finite light]

isnt it better

[gleaming quartz]

its better in general

yes

[wanton cliff]

Is RGB important to you?

[finite light]

why would you get me a wifi card? generousity

[wanton cliff]

for the build I mean

[finite light]

oh

[wanton cliff]

is RGB important to you

?