building-and-recc-chat

[hollow grail]

walmart's tongfang chassis is like 700 and had a 2060

oh price went back up to 1k lol

[arctic jungle]

@frigid zinc

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keyboard/products/keychron-k4-wireless-mechanical-keyboard-version-2?variant=32287332499545

try that

it's an extra 10$ if you want the rgb one

but i really don't recommend

[hollow grail]

is the rgb bad or smth

[wanton cliff]

you can always turn RGB off

usually doable on most RGB software

[hollow grail]

tru

[arctic jungle]

it's not too good

like...

it's-

no

it's pretty ugly

[hollow grail]

do u have a vid or smth lol

[arctic jungle]

if you're solely interested in rgb, buy a kbd from razer- best rgb

[arctic jungle]

I would take one but my dad owns one... he's working rn

if he's not busy tonight i'll try taking oen

[wanton cliff]

lili, how is CP coming along?

[arctic jungle]

he keeps his rgb off though

[wanton cliff]

The good CP, that is

[hollow grail]

gimme like an hour cutie

and

huh

[wanton cliff]

aight lit

[ripe relic]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yaboy2412/saved/2BWZJx someone dm me if this is good parts

[small osprey]

Why dm

Id say 3 fans is overkill

[hollow grail]

bad psu, ssd, and cooler

[little osprey]

Idk about the TT psu

Hyper 212 evo

Get an Arctic 34 esports duo or a gammaxx 400

Seasonic GX 650 was 99usd last week

[delicate herald]

@hollow grail the sad isn't bad

ssd

[hollow grail]

shut

adata is ass

[delicate herald]

how

[hollow grail]

lying to/scamming customers, horrible reliability

[delicate herald]

ok but does it work

[hollow grail]

no

[delicate herald]

so it's fake?

[hollow grail]

its too early for this

[little osprey]

It’s worth paying premium for a better experience

And better performance

[delicate herald]

it's just storage

[little osprey]

No

[delicate herald]

nvme is already fast so why do you need more performance

[hollow grail]

i have never sean a grey name that knew anything abt parts and so far im still looking

dram, nand quality, reliability, rma process are all things to consider

[little osprey]

You need an nvme that will last more than 6 months without write speeds falling off a cliff

[delicate herald]

why

[hollow grail]

or just stopping to work

[little osprey]

And maybe no dram

[hollow grail]

like 60% of the adata drives a friend deployed did

[little osprey]

No drive without dram is worth

[hollow grail]

literal 60 percent failure rate on their best ssds

over 2 years iirc

[small osprey]

Terrible

Honestly samsung is best just overpriced

[hollow grail]

i never say overpriced

i say like

most people wont take advantage of the features

[small osprey]

Expensive?

[little osprey]

How does Kingston rank? Thinking about getting a Kingston drive

[hollow grail]

kingston is gronse

imo like

3 options

[delicate herald]

ok you hate every company we get it

[small osprey]

Wd and samsung best for ssds

[hollow grail]

theres the mp34 for stupid cheap

theres the sn750 for midrange

[small osprey]

Hdds seagate/wd

[hollow grail]

and theres the 970 plus (not evo) for best bang/buck performance/endurance

[little osprey]

Heard seagate is pretty bad

[hollow grail]

seagate is not the best

[delicate herald]

@hollow grail what is then?????

[hollow grail]

every consumer drive over 1tb is smr

[delicate herald]

smr?

[hollow grail]

wd uses cmr/pmr so theyre a lot better imo

[little osprey]

And apparently seagate barracuda doesn’t actually operate at 7200rpm most times

[hollow grail]

wd blues are nice

[delicate herald]

ok use your cool abbreviations bdj irk iah did ughs __+ jai 94!

[little osprey]

I kind of wish I got an evo plus instead of just evo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ this good?

[hollow grail]

u need to copy the other url @little osprey

[little osprey]

Yes good

[delicate herald]

no

[hollow grail]

[delicate herald]

its just a Link to your pcpartpicker account

pk

ok

now

what i came here for

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ykhrwz

name everything wrong with this build

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yVtdJf this

[hollow grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zgdWK3

[little leaf]

Very bad imo

[hollow grail]

ez

[delicate herald]

2060 is usually super expensive (scalp) don't get

[little leaf]

@little osprey 2060 is discontinued the ram over priced 3700x outdated b450 is worse than b550

Wouldnt get 2 sata ssds for that mu FCH

Much

Just get a 2tb m.2

Nzxt cases bad airflow

[little osprey]

3700x still fine in 2020

[still roost]

Pineapple#9326 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Aw

Oops

[hollow grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4X9Lbh

[little osprey]

Well darn*

Ah

Don’t get a 3800x

[little leaf]

@little osprey it is but I wouldnt buy it

[delicate herald]

damn bro you changed so much

[hollow grail]

and this is just fixing the super basic stuff

[little leaf]

Why

[delicate herald]

*2021

[little leaf]

Would u do a 3800x

[little osprey]

I bought one

Under msrp though

[little leaf]

3800x is the most useless waste of money

[next kestrel]

no

3800xt is

[little osprey]

Both are

[next kestrel]

[little osprey]

What’s a good ryzen 7 then if the 3800 is awful

[little leaf]

Wouldnt do b450 or 3800x ram is still over priced 2060 is discounted

Discontinued

[little osprey]

3800x -> buy 10850k ._.

[hollow grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JFJXht

[hollow grail]

yeah just fixed a littl bit

[little leaf]

Ok first

Why are we not using thr new parts

[hollow grail]

3800x is still cringe but whatever

everything else should be fine

[little osprey]

What should I get instead of 3800

[little leaf]

3080

[little osprey]

3800x -> buy 5800x or switch to intel

[little leaf]

Can I ask the purpose of the build pine apple

[little osprey]

Gaming

[little leaf]

And budget

Oh lmao

[little osprey]

$1700

[hollow grail]

just swap cpu/gpu with whatever fits in budget and ur good to go glue

[little osprey]

Easy 3080 build for 1700

To 2k

Totally doable

[hollow grail]

ez 3080 then

[little osprey]

Ok sounds good

Thank you

Imma have a fun time trying to find a 3080

[little leaf]

This list is bad then

I have like data

No

I have no data so switch b450 with b550 and use 5600x and 3080

[hollow grail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxrsvf

ez

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTWLbh

[little leaf]

@little osprey your list would be fine if it wasnt 1900

[little osprey]

^thats like 2.1k lol

[little leaf]

@hollow grail no need for cooler

Could get faster ram and only needs 16gbs

[hollow grail]

o tru it has stock

yeah i went with him wanting 32gb

and thats one of the best cheap 32gb kits

[little leaf]

Tbh I really doubt he needs x570

[hollow grail]

true but i like that board

[cursive wharf]

Ftw3 is kinda ew

[hollow grail]

just placeholder

[cursive wharf]

PCB like to fail

[little leaf]

Doesnt evga have like 3 year warranty

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jBPdJf

10700 non k

[cursive wharf]

Yeah, but just get a PCB that doesn't fail so you don't wait 3+ weeks without a GPU

[little leaf]

At that point just get a 10600k

[cursive wharf]

At that point get Zen3

Intel pretty sucky against Zen3

[little leaf]

Ye but if u dont wanna wait

[sand falcon]

Is 10600k in stock?

[little leaf]

I thought it was

[cursive wharf]

is 3080 in stock

You're already waiting

[little leaf]

Ye I guess

[sand falcon]

I'm not seeing any for less than 280

[little leaf]

Well I guess my ftw3 3070 is gonna die

[little osprey]

Don’t play halo 2

On the ftw

[sand falcon]

Shouldn't it be more like 230?

[little osprey]

https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3150118&p=1

[cursive wharf]

3070 has low enough PL that I'd assume it wouldn't kill itself. Idk tho. It's the transient loads that kill it

Super high power spikes

Doubt it's limited to just halo2 tho

[rich void]

Does the EVGA XC3 have similar issues or is it just the ftw3? Also is it just the 3080s and above or possibly 3070s too? I realize this questions may not have answers right now, but appreciate any insight

[little osprey]

Probably not but halo is a solid example

[little leaf]

If it killed the board would they pay for the board?

[little osprey]

Think so

[cursive wharf]

XC3 is usually fine because PL is fairly low compared to ftw3

[little osprey]

Had a friend whose 3090 exploded and the pcie slot lit on fire from halo 2

[little leaf]

Ive only ever rmaed a cpu and mobo

[little osprey]

Evga said they would replace the board

But somehow it still works perfectly

So no need

[finite lark]

Is there anything in my bios I need to change to allow my network adapter to woek

[little leaf]

Usb or pcie

[cursive wharf]

Integrated?

[little osprey]

EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC Gaming or EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti FTW3 ULTRA

[rich void]

Thanks!

[little osprey]

Which one ^

[little leaf]

What ever u can get

Get a 3080

[cursive wharf]

Pick whatever 3060Ti is fairly cheap

[little leaf]

@little osprey we made a list for u

[little osprey]

Neither your budget is 2000 dollars

[little leaf]

Ur budget is 1700

[finite lark]

M.2

[little osprey]

He said 1.7-2k

1700-2000

[cursive wharf]

Also, isnt ftw3 3060Ti $10 cheaper then 3070?

[little leaf]

I belive so

[cursive wharf]

Pointless card then

[little leaf]

My 3070 ftw is only 100 less than 3080 after tax but i dont really care

[little osprey]

3070fe at msrp is unfindable

[little leaf]

Since my 9900k was 75 dollars

[little osprey]

More like 560-570

[arctic jungle]

@deft crane here

[arctic jungle]

WAT

WHERE

GIVE

NOW

NO

I NEED YOU TO TELL ME NOWW

[cursive wharf]

Used probs

[arctic jungle]

I HAVE A FRIEND WHO'S AT MICROCENETER RIGHT NOW ABOUT TO BUY ONE for 300

[little leaf]

Its was someone who thought their pc was broken

[arctic jungle]

oh

[little osprey]

Local deal

[little leaf]

Well thr pc was broken

[arctic jungle]

never mind

[ripe relic]

@hollow grail someone said something about the motherboard, is there any problem with it? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yaboy2412/saved/

[finite lark]

@little leaf it's an m.2 wifi adapter

[deft crane]

Hi guys. I recently purchased several items, up to almost 2k in value, from newegg. I put the components together to build my pc, and I even paid a techie to do it with me. I'm crashing 3x a day and did the windows memory diagostic that said i had hardware errors. I was sent here by Newegg chat rep from live chat. My pc is crashing 3x a day with severe issues.

[arctic jungle]

I thought you meant new lo l

[cursive wharf]

Yeah, broken stuff is fun. Got a broken 1080Ti and RMAed it for decently cheap

[little osprey]

How do you rma a product you didn’t buy

Do companies let you do that

[arctic jungle]

[cursive wharf]

Some companies allow transferable warranties. Some don't ask for invoice so doesn't matter

[arctic jungle]

how do you own a product you didn't buy....

[little leaf]

Used

[arctic jungle]

oh ofc

i didn't0

[rotund cipher]

So does anyone know if you can use an i5-9300 and a 1660TI on a 350 watt power supply

[little leaf]

Doubtful

[little osprey]

350 yikes

[cursive wharf]

9300 is i3?

[little leaf]

I think he means 9400

[rotund cipher]

Yea and the 650 watt won’t fit in my current pc case so I can’t use it

[little osprey]

I mean you didn’t buy it from the company you bought it secondhand

[rotund cipher]

And so now I have to get a new motherboard case and power supply

[little leaf]

Try running with one stick or ram

[arctic jungle]

true

[little leaf]

And re test

[arctic jungle]

shut it down first though

before taking it out

somebody thought ram was hot swappable ystrdy

[little osprey]

Just hit it really hard and hope it works

[arctic jungle]

and ruined the mobo

dude

[deft crane]

I also found those in the windows reliabilty section

[arctic jungle]

take out a stick of ram

and see if it runs

then

try the other stick

[deft crane]

Well it is running right now

I am on it

[arctic jungle]

yeah obviously

but take one stick out

[deft crane]

its not having a problem "running" per se, just occasionally flatlining

[arctic jungle]

exactl

see if it'll diagnose a problem with a single stick of ram

then try the other stick

[deft crane]

After i take out the 1 stick what do i do next

[arctic jungle]

run the diagnostic

then try the other stick

use the second slot

[deft crane]

Ok

[arctic jungle]

i actually gtg now

essay due tmrw

[wanton cliff]

Love your status Jensen

[hollow grail]

lmao

[arctic jungle]

ty

i speak only the truth @wanton cliff

[scarlet gazelle]

hey all

if i want to check for driver updates would Windows Updater do that or is it better to check online

[hollow grail]

go to ur board's download page on the manufacturer site

and download the drivers

[upbeat lodge]

I ordered my first build

[scarlet gazelle]

but for updating the drivers I already have installed for my graphics card and processor... I see in the Windows Updater it keeps up with it. but is that the best way? Or should I lookup my processor (e.g. Ryzen 5 3600 driver update)

@upbeat lodge nice. what parts?

your first pc? or first prebuild

[hollow grail]

what other drivers do you need

[upbeat lodge]

Pc I’m building it

[scarlet gazelle]

oh you ordered the parts gotcha

i dont need any drivers. just want to check if there are updates for them. ive had my pc for half a year i just want to make sure I keep up with the updates

[final peak]

Any one out there have a working knowledge of the ASUS AC3100 router? I have an OTA Antenna that I connected a HD Homerun Connect 4 tuner. I need to run an ethernet cable from the tuner to the ASUS AC3100 router. I only see 1 ethernet port on the ac3100. I've used it to connect to my cable modem. Can I use port 1 or 2 as a second ethernet port? Thanks!

[hollow grail]

yes

[scarlet gazelle]

im going to build my own router

[hollow grail]

lmao

as much as id love to see you struggle to figure out pfsense

i think im gonna have to tell you to just get something from unifi

[scarlet gazelle]

https://t.co/KzuJRyNtqo?amp=1

nah

even if i fail ill be a better engineer from it

[little osprey]

What’s the best cases for good airflow

[scarlet gazelle]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3604-best-gaming-pc-cases-for-airflow-in-2020-right-now

Phanteks seems to be a good company across the board

I have the 300a and have no problems with it. I can easily take the side panel off and have the 5 fans cool my 5700xt and ryzen 5 3600 to below 70 while playing something like cyberpunk on max settings no problem

[little osprey]

Why is the H510 getting so much hate?

[stoic island]

why shouldn't it?

all looks no perf

[scarlet gazelle]

is nzxt good for airflow?

[stoic island]

most of their cases no

they had some old decent ones

[scarlet gazelle]

do you know of any cases that you can easily take of the glass panle and back panel

my 300a is such a pain

i have to line up the top and bottom pieces just so

[stoic island]

back panel?

[scarlet gazelle]

yeah the back metal panel

[stoic island]

uhhhhh

what

[scarlet gazelle]

like you have the front glass panel right

[stoic island]

oh the side panel..?

[scarlet gazelle]

opposite to that is the back panel which you can take off

[stoic island]

I seriously hope you don't have a case with glass front panel

[scarlet gazelle]

ah geez let me send pics

front panel

side panel

back panel

front is tempered glass

[stoic island]

bruh

[muted patio]

Glass is side panel lol

[scarlet gazelle]

oh ive been callilng it the front panel lollll

[muted patio]

Front is the removalble in your hand

[scarlet gazelle]

so what is the second picture?

gotcha

what is the third picture then?

[muted patio]

Thebother one is a removable metal side panel

[stoic island]

yea

[scarlet gazelle]

so the two side panels and the front panel

[stoic island]

a real 'rear panel' would be like your IO shield

[scarlet gazelle]

right

[stoic island]

also p300a metal side panel doesn't look hard to take off

just 2 screws

[little osprey]

Agree

[stoic island]

It's like mine

[scarlet gazelle]

its a PITA... you have to line up the three metal notches just so and then slide it in and hold it there until the screws are in

[stoic island]

Mine's only hard because I stuffed a ton of thicc cables in the back and there wasn't much clearance

[scarlet gazelle]

are there cases that have side panels which are as easy to take off as the front panel?

the front panel you just pop on and off

[stoic island]

all of them..?

oh tooless?

hm

Most of them are screwed in

@muted patio p500a is 2 screws on the back for the metal side panel right

[scarlet gazelle]

By the way which way should my top fan be blowing?

i have it blowing out right now

seems like its better to get the air out and work with the other fans rather than blowing out down

[small osprey]

airflow is generally front and bottom in, top and back out

so ur fine

[scarlet gazelle]

whats everyones fav peripheral company

i just think logitech is the most quality company... but Razer has nicer keyboards imo

[stoic island]

no

and no

[hollow grail]

no

[stoic island]

Keychron atm

[scarlet gazelle]

LOLLLL

[hollow grail]

steelseries for their one mouse

[stoic island]

steelseries made mouse?

[hollow grail]

glorious for everything else

and keychron for keebs lol

[hollow grail]

rival 500 is bae

[scarlet gazelle]

steelseries

you cant tell me g915 isnt one of the best keyboards on the market

[hollow grail]

its not

[muted patio]

Yea

[scarlet gazelle]

Logitech has great mice and great headsets

[muted patio]

2 thumbs crews

Slides off

Side is glas panel on a couple pins

Front just pops off

[stoic island]

Sennheiser makes great headphones

[scarlet gazelle]

G502 and Pro X is 10/10

[stoic island]

they have decent mice

[hollow grail]

ill give logitech the mx master

[stoic island]

overpriced, can't call them great

[hollow grail]

everything else ehh

[stoic island]

mx master?

[hollow grail]

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-master-3.910-005620.html

s tier office mouse

[stoic island]

the hell

[scarlet gazelle]

Best mice company?

[stoic island]

alright

dunno

ask dino

[scarlet gazelle]

Yeah Logitech makes great office stuff too

I have that mouse at my desk

[viral ore]

logitech mice really are god tier

[stoic island]

Glorious is good

[scarlet gazelle]

Ty sassy

[stoic island]

Logitech mice is great, just overpriced imo

[scarlet gazelle]

They are

G502 will last you an eternity

[viral ore]

you get what you pay for tho

[hollow grail]

i dont rly like steelseries mice tbh

but

[stoic island]

I had a g403 iirc

[hollow grail]

theyre the only ppl who make anything like the rival 500

[stoic island]

good

[viral ore]

i would use a logi mice if i wasnt stuck with razer crap software

[hollow grail]

so im stuck with em

[stoic island]

lol

I don't like gpw

doubleclicking makes me sad

[scarlet gazelle]

Razer makes great keyboards though

I think

[viral ore]

they aight

[scarlet gazelle]

I have blackwidow elite and love it

[stoic island]

not hotswap = bad :P

[scarlet gazelle]

What does hotswappable mean in terms of keyboard

[stoic island]

@junior sky razer time

[junior sky]

mmm we love razer

[viral ore]

switches can be removed and installed while the keyboard is on

[hollow grail]

razer time

[junior sky]

razer is totally the best brand

[scarlet gazelle]

Right that’s what I thought

They can be

[junior sky]

[scarlet gazelle]

[junior sky]

a switch

[stoic island]

@scarlet gazelle I'm gonna ask you 1 thing.

[junior sky]

is whats under the keycap

[scarlet gazelle]

Not by any means

[stoic island]

take a picture of your switch

[severe axle]

corsair time

[scarlet gazelle]

But they make quality keyboards

[viral ore]

dead switches can be popped out easily without having to be desoldered

[severe axle]

opx switches

[junior sky]

razer<corsair<literally every other non-gaming keyboard brand

[scarlet gazelle]

Oh lolll yeah you’re right idk what I’m thinking. What boards are hot swappable?

[stoic island]

Nachos hates Corsair so he'd prob put razer over Corsair xD

Keychron

[viral ore]

<IBM

[scarlet gazelle]

Also is that really a big deal

Corsair sux

[junior sky]

i mean it's more for when people just want to change the switches

[stoic island]

if you want good switches

[junior sky]

dead switches are rare

[scarlet gazelle]

How often do you swap switches

Let alone when your pc is running

[stoic island]

@scarlet gazelle non-hotswappable boards, you have to solder

no way to take switches off without desoldering

[junior sky]

I still don't see the appeal of IBM keyboards

[stoic island]

hotswap boards, you can just pull em off

[scarlet gazelle]

😳 really

[junior sky]

besides of it's appearence

[stoic island]

IBM boards for the history :P

[viral ore]

they chonky, look cool, last forever

easily moddable

because the community around em is so large

[stoic island]

Razer quality seems spotty too

and I think it's plastic frame?

ofc not lubed switches or stabs

[junior sky]

lol wdym easily moddable

[viral ore]

spare parts are pretty easy to get ahold of, cant say the same for most vintage keebs

[stoic island]

Yea IBM is good for vintage market

[junior sky]

razer quality control is just overall bad

[viral ore]

running a microcontroller in mine with a custom layout

[scarlet gazelle]

What’s so bad about razer

[stoic island]

QC

[scarlet gazelle]

Besides price

[stoic island]

price

features

[junior sky]

just the products

[stoic island]

software

[junior sky]

even if the products came in perfect

[scarlet gazelle]

Qc? On what

[stoic island]

everything

[junior sky]

you still aren't getting a good product

[severe axle]

icue good

[stoic island]

I think they got better on mouse side

but software and QC in general

[junior sky]

The quality of the product alone

just isn't too good

[stoic island]

feature&quality wise

[junior sky]

like they use the cheapest keycaps and costar stablizers

[scarlet gazelle]

Razer synapse or whatever it’s called is pretty useful

[stoic island]

why buy Razer when you can get a keychron board that does the same thing, but more, for the same price or cheaper :P

[viral ore]

razer has one redeeming product on their side: https://www.razer.com/shop/keyboards/gaming-keypads

[junior sky]

Lol razer syapse is terrible

[viral ore]

they are the only ones who make it

[scarlet gazelle]

Why

[stoic island]

mostly because people don't make them lmao

[viral ore]

it crashes all the freaking time i hate it

[junior sky]

its the the best for macros

and the software is basically bloatware

[stoic island]

ick forgot that one remapping software

what's it called again

[junior sky]

QMK

??

[stoic island]

yea

that's it

qmk should be nice

[scarlet gazelle]

just threw up a bit

just looked at keychron keyboards

[stoic island]

what

[junior sky]

razer fanboy aleart

[scarlet gazelle]

cool for the office i guess

[stoic island]

uhm

what

[scarlet gazelle]

nah nah nah logitech fanboy

whats so good about keychron

[stoic island]

they look so much better than razer keyboards imo

Hotswap switches

[junior sky]

good price

[scarlet gazelle]

yuck

[stoic island]

lubed stabs

[scarlet gazelle]

to each their own

[junior sky]

lubed stabs

clipped stabs

[stoic island]

5 pin mount

[junior sky]

better switches

[stoic island]

good price

[junior sky]

wireless

[stoic island]

gateron browns are so good

[junior sky]

(good sound)

good stock sound

keycaps have a good texture

[stoic island]

Good case for sound

[scarlet gazelle]

good price yes

[stoic island]

I like the keycaps' texture and feel

and yea wireless

[junior sky]

they thin but they still feel good

[stoic island]

rgb for cheap

[scarlet gazelle]

does it have backlight

you want thin?

g915

[junior sky]

I should've recorded my keychron with stock gat reds

[stoic island]

what

[junior sky]

ew thin keyboards are disgusting

[stoic island]

we're not talking about LP

[junior sky]

and logitech is also a terrible value

[stoic island]

keychron does have LP boards tho lemme find the one

[junior sky]

if you want a thin keyboard buy a membrane

[scarlet gazelle]

logitech is top tier

[stoic island]

K1 is lp

[junior sky]

logitech is bottom teir for keyboards

just like every other gaming keyboard brand

[scarlet gazelle]

their mice, keybaords, headsets

all top tier

[junior sky]

Mice have doubleclick issues

[scarlet gazelle]

reliable, quality, customizable

[stoic island]

yea I'm still sad about gpw doubleclick

[junior sky]

keyboards are expensive and low quality

headsets are expensive

[scarlet gazelle]

logitech headsets expensive?

[stoic island]

and they decided to just not deal with it, and release a new product that doesn't have doubleclick

[junior sky]

they are just low quality

[stoic island]

@scarlet gazelle logitech headphones can't really compare with audiophile equipment

[junior sky]

my logitech headset broke in under a year

[stoic island]

forgot what switches it was, but they kept using a switch that had doubleclicking

[scarlet gazelle]

pro x wireless is pretty great

@junior sky what headset?

[junior sky]

g430 or something

[scarlet gazelle]

customizable presets, great sounding microphone

[stoic island]

shall it be sennheiser bandwagon time?

[viral ore]

until you use something like the pc37x, then suddenly the pro x wireless seems hardly impressive...

[stoic island]

Yea

I thought my corsair HS60 sounded decently

[viral ore]

or get a real set of cans and a standalone mic

[finite lark]

I'm setting up a wireless adapter and it wants to import a wireless profile

[junior sky]

I wouldn't pay over 20$ for a g430 lol

[stoic island]

until I heard with pc37x

[junior sky]

literally a cheap peice of plastic

[scarlet gazelle]

pc37x is 150 base... pro x is 129

[stoic island]

EXCUSE ME WHAT

120$ base

90$ on sale

[junior sky]

sound of actual audiophile headphones arent even comparable to gaming headsets

[scarlet gazelle]

tf is the earmuffs

velvet?

[junior sky]

unless you get like pc37 or 38

[scarlet gazelle]

what are the great audio features of the pc37x

[junior sky]

they sound better

[scarlet gazelle]

the mic arm is just not for me... i much rather the wired mic

[viral ore]

its a really good mic arm

[stoic island]

then get good headphones

[viral ore]

sturdy, flip up to mute

[stoic island]

like SHP9500

[scarlet gazelle]

does the pc37x have presets for programs when they launch

[viral ore]

or DT 990

[stoic island]

what

presets for programs

why exactly

[scarlet gazelle]

beautiful...

[hollow grail]

that looks uggy

[viral ore]

too bad the drivers in there arent

[scarlet gazelle]

if you want to switch from one preset to another... if im watching netflix but then load up CSGO i want diff sounds.

[stoic island]

like why

[scarlet gazelle]

does the pc37x do that?

[viral ore]

thats because your headphones are crap, so they need eq profiles

[scarlet gazelle]

FPS sounds are better for FPS than entertainment sounds

LOLLL so the pc37x's have only one preset?

[stoic island]

the PC37x is good enough that it's good for everything without messign with any profiles

You need to hear it to understand why

[scarlet gazelle]

so they are not customizable nice

[viral ore]

they dont need presets, thats why they are so much better

because they work properly

[hollow grail]

presets hide bad overall quality

tbh

[stoic island]

also I'm pretty sure you can customize it if you really wanted to

[junior sky]

bro this was in build chat this whole time

never noticed

[scarlet gazelle]

my pro x's can vibrate on my head if i turn the bass all the way up when im listening to music, then switch to an FPS preset when I launch an FPS game. I can change the surround sound on the fly

but with pc37xs i just have to stick with the same sound for everything... cuase optimization isnt a thing for gaming and entertainment

[stoic island]

(stereo over surround sound btw)

It's accurate for everything, so you don't have to use profiles to make it more accurate towards the source material

[scarlet gazelle]

every professional sound equipment has customizable sound. you will never hear an audiophile tell you their stuff doesnt need it because the sound is so good it can be the same across the board

[severe axle]

I tried using 7.1 setting for gaming, its not very good

[stoic island]

lets see

[severe axle]

sounds like you are in a tunnel

[stoic island]

actually, Naed hasn't been around in a bit

[scarlet gazelle]

forgot to mention the customizable input settings too

[stoic island]

oh ofc there's input settings

that's built into windows lol

[scarlet gazelle]

but not optimizaed for the specific headset youre using

[stoic island]

???

so uh

turning input volume up optimizes it?

[scarlet gazelle]

you can change how your mic sounds. its not just volume

[little osprey]

hey guys . is msi mpg z390 worth it ? its about 140bucks

or i should go for aorus z390 elite for 160 ? 🤔

[stoic island]

z390-a is decent enough

[scarlet gazelle]

what cpu gpu do you have

[little osprey]

i7 9700k with 1660super

[scarlet gazelle]

quite the diff between the two isnt it

[stoic island]

no need to go further

z390-a good nuff

[little osprey]

thanks yeah i think same . not looking for something fancy )

[stoic island]

eh Ima bother Naed if he is around

[scarlet gazelle]

how much do you think i could sell an 8 mo old 5700xt for? thinking about getting a 3080 soon

[viral ore]

quite a bit nowadays

but you arent guaranteed a 3080 unless you wanna pay an extra 300 for it

[scarlet gazelle]

3080 starts at 699 right

[muted patio]

I figured out what all the low end cards are out of stock also. EVGA at least

[scarlet gazelle]

i can wait a bit

[viral ore]

699+300

[blazing aurora]

Is $350 a good price for a 2070 super

[muted patio]

Totally forgot about the Step Up Program

[scarlet gazelle]

id say so

[viral ore]

um hell yes

thats insane

watch for scams tho

[stoic island]

Eh ima not bother naed

[viral ore]

naed up to something

[stoic island]

yea

[scarlet gazelle]

what did you guys think about the M1 chip apple unveiled?

obv not for gaming or anything but pretty impressive

[stoic island]

He's probably just still doing new year celebrations

[viral ore]

i bet naeds pretty cool at parties

[viral ore]

just another apple chip

imagine the A14 but better, as each revision of apples custom silicon obviously is

[stoic island]

yea

[viral ore]

the perf jump was obviously insane when compared to jumps between other apple chips

[stoic island]

It's just nice

[hollow grail]

i wanna see what the new mac pro is like

[viral ore]

good starting point, its a good thing apple is moving away from intel, apple didnt know how to use intel chips properly

[hollow grail]

please apple just make another xserve

[scarlet gazelle]

do you think anyone is actually getting the threadripper and cpus from the core war like they are with high end macs

i feel like if anyone wanted to do vid editing and things like that they would just get a good mac instead of a 64 core cpu

[stoic island]

server rack mac pro was a good meme tho

[small osprey]

mr1111 can i have a 1.2k list

@stoic island

[hollow grail]

for audio ppl its freat

great

most audio equipment is rackmount

ppl just expected a server for some reason

[scarlet gazelle]

https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20121210-160-mac-minis-one-rack/ tf lol

why

[hollow grail]

aws has macos instances now

[stoic island]

ill make one

@small osprey what usage

[scarlet gazelle]

doesnt aws use azure lol

[hollow grail]

no?

[stoic island]

slightly over bud this could work @small osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VX89RT

[hollow grail]

why would you think that

[scarlet gazelle]

someone told me something like that

[hollow grail]

that someone was an idiot

[scarlet gazelle]

i forget what it was exactly but it was something like aws depends on azure for their servers or something

[hoary cloak]

is it best to upgrade to a 2000 series or 3000 series I have 1660 and 3600

[next kestrel]

3000

[blazing aurora]

if you can find one lol

[hoary cloak]

Yeah that’s what I mean it’s not possible lol

[blazing aurora]

if you find a used 20-- series gpu for a good price i would go for it

[hoary cloak]

Ight

[scarlet gazelle]

i remember now

Google, IBM, Azure, AWS they all just rent server space from each other

and call their services proprietary lol

what is called the cloud is just an architechure that uses the servers to run

[hollow grail]

this is not correct lmao

[grim fern]

anyone know any good keyboards for 150cad?

[scarlet gazelle]

why is it not?

@hollow grail

[hollow grail]

because that is literally not what they do

[scarlet gazelle]

not what who does?

i am referring to all cloud companies listed

[hollow grail]

all of them?

they all use their own servers

[finite lark]

Will the netgear ac1200 wireless adapter allow my computer to connect to the internet wirelessly

[scarlet gazelle]

yes ownership and leasing of the servers overlaps between these cloud companies

sometimes microsoft will own servers that amazon will lease

all of these cloud services are mixed

[icy coyote]

just got a z490 master mb with a 3060ti on a 10th gen i7 with 32 ram. is this a good build? rank?

[lean raptor]

The techsource server is annoying will not answer me so

whats a GOOD gpu?

[stoic island]

depends on budget

[lean raptor]

a good gpu

for mhmm

lets see

a 8gb graphics card

[stoic island]

For 1500$ total, 3080, for 1200$ total, 3070, for 1000$ total, 3060ti, etc.

budget wise

Because 3090 is a good gpu

but it's expensive

[lean raptor]

I want a good graphics card

[stoic island]

How much are you spending total

[lean raptor]

well

100 to 500

pounds

[stoic island]

on just the GPU or the whole pc

[lean raptor]

or will that just get me nowhere?

[stoic island]

500gbp for just the GPU, or 500gbp for the entire pc

[lean raptor]

just a gpu

[stoic island]

RTX 3070

or 3060ti to save a bit

[lean raptor]

are those good?

[stoic island]

RTX 3070 is great

470 gbp msrp

3060ti is 370 gbp msrp

[lean raptor]

you know when you see graphics card for the first time its hard

to know

[sand falcon]

3060ti goes neck and neck with the 2080

[lean raptor]

im watching this

[stoic island]

use this for rough comparison of dif GPUs' performance
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php

[sand falcon]

Basically right now it's whatever new generation card you can find that's in your budget

[stoic island]

Easiest way to go about the GPU is the best one you can afford in the current generation lineup

[sand falcon]

They're all good

[lean raptor]

im gonna move soon so

[sand falcon]

The AMD cards aren't great at ray tracing, but as far as normal rendering goes any of them will be able to handle pretty much any game you throw at it

[lean raptor]

Im planning for a next house build

Thanks too

This server has people that actually care

techsource

did nothing

ignored me

said you can't get anything

[sand falcon]

It's very hard to

[stoic island]

hard but not impossible

[sand falcon]

If it's going to be in a month or so, it should be much easier

[stoic island]

Yea, it's only really impossible if you need something NOW

if you have like a week or two, you can prob find one

[sand falcon]

A month or more, almost definitely

I had the chance to snag a 3070 earlier

[stoic island]

who is tech source tho

[hoary lichen]

Is this a good aio? https://www.newegg.com/id-cooling-auraflow-x-240/p/13C-0013-00068

@stoic island

[stoic island]

@earnest olive prob knows

[blazing aurora]

is the 3060ti worth it for regular 1080p

[stoic island]

yes

if you can get it, for aaa games

[blazing aurora]

the issue is finding one

i might just get a used 20-- series because intel integrated graphics is not very pleasant

[lean raptor]

the gaming setup i want to make

[little osprey]

wait till 30xx become more avaiable and in stock
20xx used might drop in price aswell

[little osprey]

nice

[blazing aurora]

when will that be tho

[little osprey]

probally in like 3-4 months

[blazing aurora]

man

that's quite a bit of time

[earnest olive]

@stoic island @hoary lichen yeah ID-COOLING makes pretty good AIOs too

not biased

[little osprey]

don't you have a 570?

[blazing aurora]

i originally ordered a 580, but fedex is taking a VERY long time to deliver. i got a big boost in my pc budget so i decided to splurge on the gpu.

[little osprey]

lol

[fringe widget]

when that stimulus check hits

[blazing aurora]

you already know

but now there's no gpus available for a reasonable price

[little osprey]

yep, you either try to grab a rtx 30xx or rx 60xx when it's on stock and ok price
or wait few months

[blazing aurora]

you want me to use an igpu for "a few months" kek

[stoic island]

kekek

[little osprey]

ain't bad tho

thats a uhd 630

way better than my hd 2000

[stoic island]

not for gaming but yea

[blazing aurora]

gonna get a crispy 2 fps @ 360p

[stoic island]

c r i s p

[blazing aurora]

i might pull the trigger on a used 2070 super/2080

[little osprey]

yeah, not for gaming but still you can play lot of games on it
aslong you sacrifise resolution(720p) and quality

[blazing aurora]

yea i guess

still not ideal

[little osprey]

you can play cod mw1, mw2, mw3
crysis
half life 2

let me see...

[fringe widget]

I could still play halo 3 on my laptop with an igpu

[little osprey]

PS2x
gamecube emulator

[little osprey]

never tested halo 3 on my hd 2000

but maybe should run

[blazing aurora]

i might buy half life actually

since it's on sale

[little osprey]

half life 1 or 2? or the bundle?

[blazing aurora]

1

didn't know there was a bundle

[little osprey]

eh, the first half life 1 graphics didn't age well
since it's a relative old game tho

i would give a try on half life 2
if you find it for sale

[blazing aurora]

thanks i'll check it out

i wanted to play fallout new vegas but i refuse to play on an igpu

[little osprey]

F:NV gonna run pretty well on it

[blazing aurora]

i figured that too, since it's ten years old

[little osprey]

i played it on my potato and it ran pretty well
also don't be afraid to play on a igpu, been playing on a hd 2000 for 8 years now and awlays found something to play on it

[blazing aurora]

noted

geforce now is a viable option too

[little osprey]

yep

though whiout paying the FE menbership, you might have a hard time to find a rig

[blazing aurora]

yeah the waitlists can be annoying

[royal musk]

I need the help from my students

i have roughly 1300 limit to upgrade my current pc

i need new cpu, gpu, motherboard, power supply

anything else i dont need put it towards something else

[little osprey]

What’s your current build mr sins?

[rich helm]

@royal musk intel or amd

You could just do a 3070, 5600x, some b550 board with flashback and a decent power supply

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qMWv2V
i feel like lowering the cost a bit what should i change?

[little leaf]

No cooler

[little osprey]

ok

[dense jasper]

does anyone have a good 2x 8 adapter for the Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
that they could recomend to me

[uneven mist]

whats more worth getting

corsair ml120

or ll120

ik ml is maglev

and ll is lightloop

but whats better

[fleet pagoda]

Is this rlly overpriced?

[severe axle]

looks like it

@uneven mist ml for better fan performance, ll for better looks

[weary galleon]

extremely

[uneven mist]

but ml still got good lighting right?

[severe axle]

4 leds in the middle iirc

if you get the rgb version

[uneven mist]

aight

but if i was to get ll120 it stil wouldnt be that bad performance right?

[severe axle]

ll is still good

[uneven mist]

aight

[little osprey]

eh...more or less
but a 1050 ti on 2021 gonna struggle on AAA titles

[night frigate]

I have the Lian Li lancool 215 and the argb works on the fans but I can not change the argb colors on my fans and there is a button on a case to do that. The argb fans are connected to a fan hub that was included with the case. I read and you can change the argb with the button on the case even if it’s connected to the fan hub that comes with the case, but for me it does not work. Can anyone help? Thanks.

[uneven mist]

uhm so i had some extra 2018 wd gold 2tb hdds lyign around. ik they are liek server/nas drives bc they are from my dads old nas. is it fine if i put them in my pc or do they only work in a nas/server situation

[wanton cliff]

@hollow grail

That’s a question for her

She is the storage expert

[little osprey]

#storage-devices is also her cave

[uneven mist]

oh yeh probs shouldve asked in there

my bad

[mortal void]

slight problem, doing research my 3600 CL16 G.Skill Ram isn't listed on my MOBO Memory QVL or G.Skills website

[wanton cliff]

Ok?

Is it ripjaws or TridentZ

[mortal void]

Ripjaws 5

[wanton cliff]

Alright

What mobo?

[mortal void]

I don't wanna get 3600 CL16 if it won't run at full speeds

ASRock b550m Pro4

[wanton cliff]

Oh you’ll be fine

I run 3600 c16 on a B450

As long as your CPU is Zen2 or Zen3 you can run it

[mortal void]

well my first build will probably be R5 3600

[little osprey]

Hi

[wanton cliff]

Which is Zen2

Hi there PAAT

[formal plover]

Hello

[hollow grail]

theyre just enterprise drives

[wanton cliff]

Hello there [INSERT CHARACTERS I CANT TYPE]

[hollow grail]

as long as theyre sata and not sas ur good

[little osprey]

Im choosing between ryzen 3500x or 2600x

[wanton cliff]

Ok

[formal plover]

3500x?

[wanton cliff]

Keep going

[hollow grail]

youd know if they were sas lol

[uneven mist]

i can send u a pic of the connector thingos

[formal plover]

Are they the same price?

[hollow grail]

yea go 4 it

[little osprey]

And what mobo should i use

[wanton cliff]

Not as common as 3600, but it does exist

[little osprey]

2600x is a little expensive

[formal plover]

I know. Usually those things are over msrp

[wanton cliff]

2600x is about the same as R5 3600, but 3500 supports higher memory speeds

[formal plover]

Depends on cpu choice

[wanton cliff]

As for mobo, any B450 or better mobo should work

Preferably B550

[jagged ember]

B450 is outdated at this point

[uneven mist]

@hollow grail

[wanton cliff]

Kinda

[jagged ember]

But good if you're on a budget

[wanton cliff]

Still works tho

[formal plover]

B450 for 2600 b550 for 3500x

[little osprey]

3500x is a 3600 whiout HT and eh...don't seems like a good deal
unless you find it for very cheap

[formal plover]

Maybe a520 for 3500x if you dont plan on overclocking

[hollow grail]

ur good

[jagged ember]

Lol quak that's every hard drive ever tho

[uneven mist]

aight

lo

l

[wanton cliff]

I run my rig on a Strix B450-F and the thing runs just fine (R7 3800X, 5700XT, 32gb 3600 c16)

[hollow grail]

just making sure it wasnt sas

[jagged ember]

Aahh ic ic

[hollow grail]

golds are enterprise drives so like maybe lol

[little osprey]

How bout this

[uneven mist]

will they perform good?

[uneven mist]

or they just kinda average

[wanton cliff]

Idk that currency

What’s that in USD?

[uneven mist]

lol

[jagged ember]

That currency is

Massive

Imagine that in USD lmao

[little osprey]

thats alot of money

[hollow grail]

what kind of monopoly money currency is that garbage

[wanton cliff]

Lmao

Something akin to Yen probably

[little osprey]

Its $290

[wanton cliff]

Oh

That’s a good deal imo

[hollow grail]

not bad

[wanton cliff]

Any second opinions?

[little osprey]

??

[wanton cliff]

What is the name of your currency

[little osprey]

Philippine peso lol

[wanton cliff]

Ah

[formal plover]

Has the bios been updated to support zen 2 processors?

[hollow grail]

thats the p.c. way to say it yeah

[wanton cliff]

Most likely at this point

If it is shipping with a 3500

[formal plover]

Is that aliexpress?

[wanton cliff]

If it is, it’s because they are in the Philippines

[formal plover]

Ok

Aliexpress can be iffy for pc hardware

[little osprey]

i don't recall aliexpress selling 3500x combos with mobo

[little osprey]

Idkk Its not in the description

[little osprey]

Nahh other app

[formal plover]

It might be exclusive to the Philippines

Oh

[mortal void]

is a NH-U12S chromax.black overkill for a 3600? lmao

[wanton cliff]

It says on the box that it is Zen2 ready

If you look close enough

Bottom left

[formal plover]

Are you overclocking?

[wanton cliff]

A bit.

But better to overpay on cooling

In most cases

[mortal void]

I might consider OCing but don't know how I feel about trying to

[little osprey]

aliexpress doesn't have exclusivity to countries lol

[formal plover]

It's really easy and safe with amd ryzen master overclocking utility

[mortal void]

currently have a 212 Black for $55

on my build

[formal plover]

If you're not overclocking just use the stock cooler

[little osprey]

Its not ali

[formal plover]

Of if you have a 212 there's no need to upgrade