building-and-recc-chat

[cunning sundial]

Bigger is always better 😉

[wanton cliff]

The TUF X570 is actually a really small board

I was surprised when I first unpackaged it

At the very least, it looks small

[cunning sundial]

That's because you have allot of experience with boards. Don't hold them all to that standard. Bet it works just as well or better than some of those big ones 😆

[hollow grail]

owo

[wanton cliff]

Didn’t say it is bad because it is small

[hollow grail]

sara is into boards

[wanton cliff]

Just that it is surprisingly small

Stfu lili

[cunning sundial]

Lmao

[hollow grail]

owo

board me mommy

ugh ive been ripping betaarchive for a full month now

15mb/s on average

[cunning sundial]

Rip. Pun intended...

[wanton cliff]

Slow

“Whoa! That snail is fast”

[little osprey]

Intel guuuuud

[hollow grail]

intel nice

[little osprey]

[hollow grail]

GO FASTERRRR

[wanton cliff]

Oh my

What are you trying to upload???

Also what happened to Cyberpunk on your CDN?

[hollow grail]

ripping betaarchive

oh yeah lmao i deleted it

[wanton cliff]

Couldn’t have sent it to me first?

[hollow grail]

https://www.betaarchive.com/

[cunning sundial]

You put yourself in this situation. Better get a cup of tea and sit back and relax, it's going to be a long one.

[hollow grail]

lol

true but then ill have it all :))))

[verbal quarry]

how good is crucial ssd?

[hollow grail]

meh

[stark bramble]

depends

which one

[hollow grail]

better brands

imo

[stark bramble]

[verbal quarry]

500gb

[stark bramble]

which model

[hollow grail]

not for ssds tbh

[slim escarp]

All I need is the mobo because it got delayed feels bad

[stark bramble]

@hollow grail yes for ssds

[hollow grail]

brand of nand is important

[blazing aurora]

when do the 3060tis restock

[hollow grail]

no for ssds shut up

[stark bramble]

bro

would you trust wd over crucial?

[next kestrel]

wd green :))

[hollow grail]

im saying brand is important

[next kestrel]

yes i would lol

[stark bramble]

not really tbh

[hollow grail]

not that its the most important

yes rly

[stark bramble]

unless u look at some back alley brand

[hollow grail]

i trust crucial nand over wd

if thats what ur asking

and i trust samsung nand over everyone elses

[stoic island]

kioxia

[stark bramble]

lmao

[verbal quarry]

yea i was looking at a samsung ssd

[hollow grail]

yeah toshiba nand is nice

id go samsung tbh

[stark bramble]

hey @stoic island ur here nice would you use gammaxx 400 on a 9700k

[hollow grail]

if you can afford it theres nothing better tbh

[formal cosmos]

does a gt1030 bottle neck a 5 3600

[hollow grail]

yes

[formal cosmos]

hmm

[blazing aurora]

quite hard

[stoic island]

yes

[blazing aurora]

what's your budget for gpus @formal cosmos

[formal cosmos]

i’m thinking of buying a gt1030 and waiting for my birthday to upgrade my gpu

[formal cosmos]

it’s 1100

[hollow grail]

970 evo plus is the ssd to beat rn imo

[formal cosmos]

but there’s no gpus anywhere

[hollow grail]

for price/perf

samsung mlc is god tier

[verbal quarry]

yea but im going cost

[wanton cliff]

What about 970 pro?

[blazing aurora]

1100USD just for the gpu?

[verbal quarry]

im going at most $70

[hollow grail]

i mean the 970/980 pro are better but not for price to perf

[wanton cliff]

Fair

[hollow grail]

if u want cheap just get something from team/a sn750

[formal cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qZMYLP my list

i’m just thinking of keeping a 1030 for awhile

i’m gonna play nothing but val and csgo

[wanton cliff]

1030 is poop even for Val and CS:GO

[hollow grail]

cause the evo plus is 90 for 512gb

[wanton cliff]

Yeah true

[hollow grail]

sn750 is 65

so for cheap id go sn60

[wanton cliff]

I have a Evo plus 1tb that I got for like $140

[hollow grail]

sn750

yeah the evo plus is a s tier ssd

[wanton cliff]

Fast as crap

And cold too

Unlike my SX8100

[hollow grail]

[blazing aurora]

should i get a used 2080 for 350$ or pray for a 3060ti? i'm on intel int. gpu rn and i need a dedicated card

[hollow grail]

ikr ppl who know nothing abt ssds say samsung is overpriced

[wanton cliff]

2080 for 350 ain’t half bad, but if you are OK with waiting I would try and get a 3060Ti

Either way is a good deal IMO

3060 is just a bit more powerful and has faster VRAM

[blazing aurora]

thanks, i'll wait a couple days in that case

[trail axle]

Could someone help me put together a pc list for 1300-1500 with windows license

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

That’s what I certainly have

[wanton cliff]

Windows license you can get for $5 off eBay

[trail axle]

Ok

[wanton cliff]

Is that 1500 Cad or US?

[trail axle]

US

[wanton cliff]

And that’s the build you chose?

[stark bramble]

@trail axle thats not a pcpp list

thats just the link to pcpp

[wanton cliff]

Oh wait that’s my build for the other guy XD

I’m dumb

[trail axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2vPY2V

[stark bramble]

copy the one thats down here @trail axle

[trail axle]

Sorry

🤦‍♂️

[wanton cliff]

Solid build

A windows license, like I said, you can get for real cheap if you look hard enough

Cheaper than your average coffee

[stark bramble]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P3cm7X
this is a llist i have for my friend

how is it

[little osprey]

is he getting that 9700k for that price?

[trail axle]

It’s good but I just put the 3700x as a placeholder but would like 5600x

[wanton cliff]

That’s 2 cores gone

Which I don’t like much

But they are fast cores

[trail axle]

If possible would like to stay AMD

[little osprey]

for that price
you can get a 5600x
or a 10700k for a few bucks more

[trail axle]

Okay

[little osprey]

amd is alright but most CPUs that are in stock
are overpriced
and the newer cpus are kinda eh on the price

[crisp karma]

Would you guys say this is a good rig? Idk about the cpu but im trying to switch over to amd and Im wondering if this rig will be alright https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZV49N. ( I already have a hdd just getting an ssd because I boot into windows in 8 minutes)

[wanton cliff]

I would save a bit on RAM, anything above 3200 MHz is wasted on Zen+

[crisp karma]

wdym

I thought 3600 mhz was recommended for amd?

[hollow grail]

a2000 not ideal

[wanton cliff]

I’m pretty sure Zen+ CPUs (Ryzen 2000 series) don’t have a memory controller good enough for more than 3200

[hollow grail]

sn750 $5 more

fix it sara im too lazy

i will pay u in kiss

[little osprey]

you can save few bucks on cpu
going for a 10400/10400f tho

[hollow grail]

also that wifi card is cring

[stoic island]

3600mhz for Zen 2 and Zen 3

[hollow grail]

someone get one that has an intel module

[stoic island]

3200mhz for Zen+

Zen is wacky

[wanton cliff]

Zen is wacky indeed

[cursive wharf]

R5 3600 is also $10 more if in stock

[wanton cliff]

3600x right now is also sometimes cheaper than 3600

Oddly enough

[stoic island]

this thing uses ax200
https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-ax3000-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-00075

[cursive wharf]

Also 3070 only $10 more too

[crisp karma]

But im looking for wifi and bluetooth tho

[hollow grail]

cute

[stoic island]

it is cute

[hollow grail]

thats a nice adapter

[wanton cliff]

🎶 Another ten bucks right here and 5 bucks right there... the Scalpers will fix it anyway so I don’t care 🎶

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

To the tune of “it just works” by The Chalkeaters

[little osprey]

well...10700k went up on the price

[wanton cliff]

Everything is going up in price

[hollow grail]

even me

[wanton cliff]

Also I have a bit of an issue that I am trying to record real quick

[blazing pilot]

name every problem tell me what it needs tell me names of stuff cus my building sucks https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kxMm7X

am take a shower so tell me in the mean time

[hollow grail]

cringe hdd and the 970 plus is better

imagine smr

i cant

[wanton cliff]

Why does this happen when I turn off my left monitor and how do I make it stop

[hollow grail]

monitor disconnects and then everything rearranges itself

pretty normal

[stoic island]

ya

[blazing pilot]

lili

[wanton cliff]

How do I make it stahp

[hollow grail]

u cannot

[stoic island]

don't turn the other monitors off

[blazing pilot]

@hollow grail so do i get 970

[hollow grail]

actually laughed

[wanton cliff]

I have to in order to get more than 45 FPS in Half Life Alyx

[hollow grail]

also cute hand sara

let me hold

[wanton cliff]

Thanks

I shall

[hollow grail]

we in

[wanton cliff]

sips bleach seductively

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

Lmao

Let’s bring this to the DMs, leave the rest of #building-and-recc-chat out of this

[hollow grail]

the 970 is cool

[wanton cliff]

970 is pretty lit

[hollow grail]

but the 970 plus is based as hell

[wanton cliff]

970 plus is even litter

[hollow grail]

and id get a wd blue

over a seagate

cmr vs smr

[wanton cliff]

I like the 970 plus, let’s me load Rust in less than a minute

I hate Seagate

[trail axle]

What would be good Keyboard and mouse for under 200 us

[wanton cliff]

Western Digital all the way

Razer Mamba Wireless and Cynosa Chroma

That’s mouse and keyboard in that order

Oof parents are telling again

[hollow grail]

i dont like razer keebs

[wanton cliff]

Ahh but you see lili

[hollow grail]

for kb and mouse id do uhhhhhhh

keychron seems cute

[hollow grail]

honestly

[trail axle]

G213 KEYBOARD + G305 LIGHTSPEED GAMING MOUSE I was thinking about this

[hollow grail]

🤮

non tkl

[hollow grail]

keeb from keychron, mouse from glorious

ezpz

[cunning sundial]

"seductively drinks bleach" I'm dead 😆😆😆

[stoic island]

K E Y C H R O N

Could be like me and go Keychron K8 + Model O wireless

[hollow grail]

based combo

[stoic island]

great combo

[cunning sundial]

As long as you're happy

[hollow grail]

i kiss my rival 500 on the lips tho

best mouse ive ever used

[cunning sundial]

It shouldn't have lips, you might want to get that checked out...

[trail axle]

What mouse

[hollow grail]

something from glorious

[stoic island]

Model O or Model O wireless

[hollow grail]

[stoic island]

both good

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-model-o-wireless-matte-black

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keyboard/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018253054041

[cunning sundial]

Get one of those keyless ones that projects the letters with a laser

[stoic island]

no

those are crap

[cunning sundial]

It's not great, but that's not the point

[stoic island]

look at any review, they hurt your fingers

[cunning sundial]

It's a joke. Please don't actually get one

Unless it's got argb*

[wanton cliff]

RGB increases computer performance by 50%

That’s simply a fact

[pine kayak]

[nimble sinew]

hi

LL120 fans are good

[severe axle]

for looks yeah

not the best cfm though

[grand orchid]

Thoughts on the H510 for $60 "never out of box"?

How can I check if everything is still there and in good condition?

[severe axle]

you can get better cases for $60

[grand orchid]

Hmm?

2hat suggestions?

[severe axle]

cougar mx410 mesh-g

[grand orchid]

Is it easy to build in?

I have a 360AIO that I want to top/front mount

[severe axle]

hmm in that case

[grand orchid]

I have a busted up panzer s from cougar

So I don't really like em very much

I saw an offer for an h510 near me for $60 and was considering it since I think it fits my needs

[severe axle]

that won't fit the radiator

[grand orchid]

Oh

F

I need a case that supports a 360AIO, is kind of spacious since I have pretty big hands, and fits 2 2.5 and 3 or Hopefully 5 3.5inch HDDs

Some people said the meshify at one point

[severe axle]

yeah that one is a good case

[grand orchid]

Which one?

[severe axle]

td500 mesh is also good

[grand orchid]

The c?

[severe axle]

the meshify

[grand orchid]

Any that top mount AIO?

[severe axle]

yes, td500 mesh

[grand orchid]

From cooler master?

[severe axle]

yep

[brittle wing]

would i need to get a new motherboard if i upgraded my cpu

[severe axle]

depends, what cpu/mobo

[brittle wing]

i have a b360 ds3h

intel mb

idk what cpu i want to get though

just anything better than a if 8400

i5*

[little osprey]

if you want to go over to lga 1200
you need a new mobo

[severe axle]

b360 is lga 1151 it looks like

[little osprey]

yes, it is 1151

[brittle wing]

whats the best cpu i could get for it then\

[little osprey]

you have 3 options for "best cpu"

8700k(6c/12t)
9700k(8c/8t)
9900k(8c/12t)

[rich helm]

@grand orchid meshify c doesn’t support 360 aio

[grand orchid]

Sad face @rich helm

I'm liking the td500

Rn

It seems very promising

Not too expensive either

[rich helm]

Yeah I think it’s only up to 280

[little osprey]

9990k gonna be the ultimate upgrade for 1155, from there you can't really upgrade unless you jump to lga 1200

[severe axle]

@rich helm newegg page for meshify c says up to 360 on front

[rich helm]

Really?

[brittle wing]

im planning on getting a new gpu and was going for a 3060ti when they come back in stock and wanted a good cpu to pair with that, that is also affordable

[rich helm]

Didn’t know that

[little osprey]

you could take a look at the CPUs i told, those CPUs pairs well with a 3060 ti

[rich helm]

Why does it say both 280 and 360 hmm

[grand orchid]

Top is 280

[brittle wing]

alrighty thank you vem

[grand orchid]

I think that's what you meant worst

[severe axle]

no, front is 360/280

top is 240

[grand orchid]

Oh

Tough

[severe axle]

but yeah if you want top mount aio then td500 mesh is good

[grand orchid]

Well I have a h150i pro and it's a big boi

[rich helm]

It is only an atx mid case to be fair

[little osprey]

other options would be 9400f and maybe 8400f(if 6c/6t)

[brittle wing]

alrighty ill take a look

[grand orchid]

Wait

What's the td500

?

Atx- full?

[rich helm]

I think it’s still a mid

[grand orchid]

Same as the meshify c

[severe axle]

mid tower with eatx support

[grand orchid]

Ah

[brittle wing]

@little osprey what a bout i5-9600k

[rich helm]

Maybe just a bit bigger

[brittle wing]

i was looking at it and thought it was a good price and fits the motherboard

[grand orchid]

So not too different from the meshify c

[little osprey]

you can get it but if you have a stock cooler, you gonna need upgrade it
and you can't overclock on your mobo.

[grand orchid]

I just struggle with some parts of the build due to wide hands and watching some youtubers with tiny hands makes me jealous

[rich helm]

Is the td500 the one with the 3 rgb fans

[grand orchid]

I think so

[small osprey]

Yes

[brittle wing]

i just upgraded my cooler to a water cooled one so i should be good

[grand orchid]

Looks perty

Like it

[small osprey]

Its a great case

[rich helm]

Yeah having big hands doesn’t seem like it should be a big problem

[little osprey]

also depends on how much you find a 9600k for

[rich helm]

I have pretty big hands and I have only used microatx cases and it was fine

[brittle wing]

best buy has it for 200

[grand orchid]

Well try building in the cougar panzer s

[little osprey]

200...uh

i don't think thats worth lol

[brittle wing]

ok ill keep looking at your suggestions

[little osprey]

200 is alot for 9600k imo

[grand orchid]

Hey uh @brittle wing thoughts on why my 8700k is holding back my 1080?

It's sitting on a Z370 FTW

With a h150i on top

32gbs 3000 from Corsair

[brittle wing]

i am not a tech guy sorry

[grand orchid]

Hmm

[little osprey]

on what game?

[brittle wing]

ask vem he is helpful

[grand orchid]

Most games. Usage is in the 70+% and gpu is under 15

Playing at 1080p 240hz

[little osprey]

uh...weird

[grand orchid]

1080 sc from evga

[little osprey]

that shouldn't be happening lol

infact the 1080 should be the bottleneck

[grand orchid]

I play competitive settings(mostly low) with either Rtss or g-sync

Not ti

Just a 1080

I'll send screenshots in like 2 days

[rich helm]

If it’s low setting doesn’t that mean the gpu isn’t doing much

[grand orchid]

Yep

That's why it shouldn't do much, but even on max settings my cpu is the one that gives first

Not the 1080

I'll send rainbow six benchmark screenshots at different settings

I'm thinking maybe windows is bloating up again

Might be time for a wipe

I'm saving up rn for a 5900x

[rich helm]

Nice

[severe axle]

r6 isn't very demanding though is it?

[grand orchid]

Since my buddies swear that a 1080 will hold for a minute

[grand orchid]

Yeah. That's why I'm stumped

[severe axle]

if you are getting 240fps though whats the problem

[grand orchid]

I'll be overclocking in a discord call here in Monday so we can try to see if maybe that's the issue

[little osprey]

going to do productivity work?

[grand orchid]

Stutters and inconsistent fram times

[grand orchid]

Si. I have a A7rIV

5K camera

[little osprey]

ah

[grand orchid]

Yep

So the adobe suit

Is my major and life atm

Also thoughts on Rtss? Vs the adaptive sync monitor with the nvidia g-sync from software

[little osprey]

rtss is nice

though idk about those others, i never tried any of them or reseached about

[viral ore]

my 1080 FE pushes 280-400fps in R6S

[grand orchid]

What cpu?

@viral ore

[viral ore]

10920x

[grand orchid]

Hmm

So what are your thoughts on my predicament

[viral ore]

oh lol you changed your username

i was so confused

[hollow grail]

lmao sassy ur pfp

[grand orchid]

Lol

Nice 2-bit sans

[viral ore]

cpu bottleneck

your cpu frametimes are the limiting factor

[grand orchid]

I figured as much

They're often very inconsistent

And dropping settings doesn't affect it

That's why I use rtss

[viral ore]

best single core perf for the money rn, assuming you get it in stock at msrp, is the 5600x

[grand orchid]

What about the 5900x?

[viral ore]

but, 8700k is still a good chip

[rich helm]

If you need the cores

[grand orchid]

For "future proofing"

😘

[viral ore]

you dont need 12/24 for gaming lol

[grand orchid]

Idk man

[viral ore]

trust me

[grand orchid]

Flight sim really out here

Bodying cpus

Just sayin

Xd

[viral ore]

yes, and 6/12 will be enough

[rich helm]

Didn’t you say you were going to use Adobe stuff

[grand orchid]

Creative media industries major

Yes

[viral ore]

the minimal performance games for the 10 games in existence that will use that many cores isnt worth the extra 250 dollars

[grand orchid]

Fair point

What board?

[viral ore]

also, not all "adobe stuff" uses that many cores either

[grand orchid]

I'm a big usb user

[grand orchid]

I would be perfectly fine with a 5600x I understand what it would mean

I was thinking the hero IV

[viral ore]

nah

[grand orchid]

Friend has it and swears it's good

[viral ore]

get a case with a ton of front usb ports

[grand orchid]

Lol

Well the td500 was the best suggestion so far

[viral ore]

that board is also x370

[grand orchid]

This

[viral ore]

not worth buying

lots of cases support 360mm rads

[grand orchid]

Top mount support

[viral ore]

does it have to be mounted at the top?

[grand orchid]

Well ideal airflow no?

[viral ore]

its not that big of a concern, front mounted is fine

[grand orchid]

Hard to really get my head around the airflow concept

[grand orchid]

Gotcha

[viral ore]

top exhaust is the "ideal" but the real temp differences are negligible

[grand orchid]

Then what case has lots of usb ports lol

[grand orchid]

In effect can be defeated by dropping my house temps a bit down

[viral ore]

lmao yeah

[grand orchid]

I'll just have the case turned around lol

That way I can route cables normally

The back io can be the front

Lol

[viral ore]

i have a case that uses a rotated motherboard layout

the rear io is moved to the top of the case

[grand orchid]

Lmao

That sounds lit

[viral ore]

it also has a cover, so to access all your IO, you just remove the magnetic ppanel at the top

[grand orchid]

Yo

Send lik

Where it at?

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/black-segotep-argus/p/2AM-005R-00012

comes with 3 front fans too

i would say a 240mm aio at the rear would be ideal

super easy to install

oh, its also super easy to work in

[grand orchid]

Would I be able to front mount my h150i?

[viral ore]

yeah, ive got my 360mm aio front mounted

[grand orchid]

With the inlets/outlet on top?

Can I see a pic?

😘

Lol

[viral ore]

maybe

[grand orchid]

🥺🥺

[viral ore]

mines routed like this, i would suggest you dont do that though

[grand orchid]

Yeah

Jayz explained

I cringed for a second

[viral ore]

your aio tubes will just go up through the large hole

[grand orchid]

Is the other orientation where the tubes are going through the top?

[viral ore]

they dont

[grand orchid]

Wait so can I have the tubes go downards to the pump/block?

[viral ore]

aio tubes have to be at the bottom, which is actually the preferred way to mount it

[grand orchid]

Omg

You're right

I had it reversed in my head

[viral ore]

i routed my tubes like that and modded the plastic cover lol

[grand orchid]

Silly me

So can I mount like you with the inlets/outlet at the bottom going up towards the cpu?

[viral ore]

yep

[grand orchid]

Sick👍

Thanks for the awesome case

And you said easy to build in

So

[viral ore]

yea, really easy

[grand orchid]

Fits my needs

[viral ore]

its one large open chamber

you can make it a pain to build in like i did to myself, but it doesnt have to be

[grand orchid]

I see

How do I not make pain?

I no like pain

Pls

[viral ore]

mounting aios is always a pain

[grand orchid]

Yes

Paiiin

Spain with the silent s

[viral ore]

remove the 3.5inch hdd bays

[grand orchid]

Can I replace it after mounting?

[viral ore]

you can replace one of them

[grand orchid]

Because I have 2 3.5

Oof

[viral ore]

oof, the hard way it is

[grand orchid]

Is there a bigger model?

🥺

[viral ore]

no, this ones already pretty big

[grand orchid]

Where my hdd goooo

🥺

I had 3

One died because it had no comfy spot

And I'm a 🤡

Ya know

[grand orchid]

Oh

[viral ore]

the aio rests right on top of the hdd cage

[grand orchid]

So its close

Is what I'm hearin

[viral ore]

yeah

[grand orchid]

Tight

Squeegee

[viral ore]

you gotta install your HDDs first

[grand orchid]

Squeeze

Ahh

[turbid cosmos]

Ok so I need some help here. I got all my parts and built the pc. I have the new ryzen 5 5600x and an msi mpg b550i gaming edge wifi mobo. This mobo has a bios flash button. I already went through all the procedures to flash the bios and I did it but the pc still won’t post. I’ve now tried flashing with two different flash drives and still the light on the mobo gets stuck at boot and the pc won’t post. I’m out of ideas plz can someone help

[viral ore]

then set the aio on top

[grand orchid]

Noted

[viral ore]

then, the screws wont line up

[grand orchid]

Waiy

They won't line up?

[viral ore]

yes, so you can only use 6 of the 12

which is plenty

[grand orchid]

Ahh

[viral ore]

but you have to install everything in a specific sequence

[grand orchid]

Which sides should the fans be blowing?

In or out?

Assuming I can get case fans

More

Anywyas

If needed

[viral ore]

so, the front panel comes off really easy, then there are the fan mount points, then you put the fans blowing in, then the rad

[grand orchid]

Gotcha

Saving that in our dns

Dms

[viral ore]

you have to screw in the fans to the rad at all the points at which they wont be screwed into the case

then position the rad

then screw the rad into the case through the fans that dont have screws in them already

its a pain

[grand orchid]

But it works

And that's what matters

Thanks pal

👍

[viral ore]

the rad barely fits

but

it fits

so it might take a bit to work it in there

[grand orchid]

Do it keep that cpu cool do?

Hmm?

If fan blow then why cou lack hot?

Hmm!

[viral ore]

Hmm?!

[grand orchid]

Lol

[viral ore]

yes it do

[grand orchid]

Newegg is cheapest rn?

Or should I peruse

[viral ore]

another thing is that you have to temporarily unscrew the front io panel

and reroute the cables

[grand orchid]

Is it replaceable?

[viral ore]

is what

[grand orchid]

The cables

[viral ore]

no

[grand orchid]

And the front oanel

Can I put it back?

Where does it go?

[viral ore]

oh yeah, youre only unscrewing it

you arent pulling it out

just shifting it a bit to get the aio into position

[grand orchid]

Lots of spain

[viral ore]

yes

its annoying, but doable

and the end result is awesome

[grand orchid]

And the aio lives forecer

Bet

👍

Also how high do you think my 8700k can go under a 360 at max power?

[viral ore]

no idea, depends entirely on the chip

gtg eat

[cyan hedge]

What’s a good reusable air duster? Like the electric compressors you can but? Need a good one at a reasonable price, preferably

[blazing aurora]

how much better is the 3060 ti than the 2080

[lusty gazelle]

i have a question, if i increase the cores on my cpu does it make my cpu hotter?

[viral ore]

no idea, they probably perform pretty similar

used 2080 probably goes for more than a scalped 3060ti tho

[viral ore]

you cant increase the number of cores

you can go into the bios and turn off cores

but thats about it

[lusty gazelle]

o

ok thanks

[wicked frigate]

He guys

If I get amd will I be able to upgrade in the future

[pliant fractal]

Anyone got any suggestions on what to change or add?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/blazethrower320/saved/HL7YNG

Ping me if you have any suggestions or edits you think should be made

[wicked frigate]

@pliant fractal your build is private

We can’t see it

[pliant fractal]

Shoot, Give me 1 moment

[wicked frigate]

K

[pliant fractal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/PJZfrH

That should work

If it dosent, This is what I have
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
**CPU Cooler: ** Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler
**Thermal Paste ** ARCTIC MX-4 - Thermal Compound Paste For Coolers | Heat Sink Paste | Composed of Carbon Micro-particles | Easy to Apply | High Durability - 4 Grams
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
**Memory: **Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Graphics Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ( Or any other 3060 TI)
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

[austere totem]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GoldBeast989/saved/JKCJyc is this a good pc build?

[atomic mantle]

I dunno about the memory, heard mixed things about Team or w/e

but sure

looks alright

[austere totem]

ok

[hollow grail]

get the evo plus

[pliant fractal]

Whats better about it? Just better preformance on it?

[hollow grail]

mlc vs tlc

way better nand

will 1000% last much longer

[pliant fractal]

Ok, its only $10 more. Ill upgrade it

[austere totem]

regular evo is still very good

[hollow grail]

best $10 ur gonna spend

[hollow grail]

im not saying it isnt, but vs the pro not much contest

[grand orchid]

Suggestions on a good x570 board?

[hollow grail]

sorry i meant plus

also @pliant fractal id ditch the seagate hdd for a 4tb wd blue

$20 more 2x the storage and it isnt cmr

smr*

[pliant fractal]

Ok, Ill do somle researcxh on that one. Thanks

[hollow grail]

as someone where like

my entire thing here is storage lol

[pliant fractal]

Lol, My current PC, I have only had 1Tb. So I dont need that much

[hollow grail]

that hdd is ok but any barracuda will be smr over 1tb

[pliant fractal]

Ok

[hollow grail]

to make a long story short: that is bad

[pliant fractal]

Thanks for letting me know

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys

What’s a good storage and ram

He wants 3tb hd

Like what brands

[muted patio]

Toshiba

[wicked frigate]

Wut?

[muted patio]

3TB HD

Toshiba

[wicked frigate]

What about sedate

Segate

[muted patio]

Cheap and likely to die

[wicked frigate]

And why about ram

[muted patio]

Ram, G Skill or Crucial

[wicked frigate]

To toshiba is better

Ok

[muted patio]

Yes, Toshiba is better

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Wait

Can u link it or no?

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/toshiba-dt01aca300-3tb/p/N82E16822149408?Description=toshiba 3 TB&cm_re=toshiba_3 TB-_-22-149-408-_-Product&quicklink=true

[wicked frigate]

Why speed ram

[muted patio]

Depends on the CPU and motherboard

[wicked frigate]

5600x

[muted patio]

Ned to know those

[wicked frigate]

Idk mobo

[muted patio]

Hmmmm

B550 or x570 I hope?

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[muted patio]

This is the only stuff in stock that's reasonably priced https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Description=3600 cl 16&cm_re=3600_cl 16-_-20-232-880-_-Product&quicklink=true

Unless you want RGB

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164221?Description=3600 cl 16&cm_re=3600_cl 16-_-20-164-221-_-Product&quicklink=true

[wicked frigate]

Do you have time to make me a hold

Me a build

??

[stoic island]

Also western digital can be good

[wicked frigate]

Wait do you guys have time to make me a build

[stoic island]

Maybe, give budget, country, purpose, and timing

[wicked frigate]

Ok

1500-1600

USA

Gaming

Timing depends when they are in stock

[muted patio]

1500-1600?

[wicked frigate]

Budget

[muted patio]

This is $700 with no GPU leaves you room to add a monitor, hard drive, GPU of your choice https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PzcFYg

[stoic island]

Prob 5600x+3080 build imo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfB9RT

[wicked frigate]

Is 40 series flu coming out or is that a lie

[muted patio]

taht's a long ways off

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[stoic island]

40 series flu?

[wicked frigate]

Wait this is for my cousin amd he doesn’t need 3080

[muted patio]

40 series GPU i think they meant

You know, the rumors flying around on YouTube

[stoic island]

um what

[blazing aurora]

Is a 550w psu good for the 2080?

[stoic island]

they haven't even released the full 30xx series lineup yet lol

[muted patio]

550w for 2080? need a bit more

[stoic island]

40xx is gonna be another year

well depends on CPU, but it'll be tight

[muted patio]

nVidia recommends a minimum of 650W

[severe axle]

for more upgradability

[muted patio]

so 550W would be pushing it

[stoic island]

If it's like 3600+2080, you could get away with 550, but anything more and you'll probably want something more

[blazing aurora]

10400 + 2080

[muted patio]

Also depends on the quality of the PSU

[blazing aurora]

corsair cx

[blazing aurora]

could I get away with a 10400 + 2080?

[wicked frigate]

Is 5600x better than intel for gaming

[stoic island]

yes

[frigid zinc]

how do i know how many fans can my motherboard have

[stoic island]

what mobo

[frigid zinc]

what

[stoic island]

motherboard

what is it

[frigid zinc]

b450m-a

asus prime

[stoic island]

tis be your headers

[frigid zinc]

so 3

cpu

and 2 others

[stoic island]

depends on the fans

for example, NF-A12x25s use ~.15a per fan, so it's reasonable to use splitters to get like 6 NF-A12x25 fans onto a single header

[viral wagon]

so i’ve recently ran into a problem with pc freezing. I was wondering if anyone could spot any problems that could cause this. My PC has a Ryzen 5 2600x, 1660 OC, Asrock b450 pro 4 motherboard, and a corsair 550W PSU. I recently installed a kraken z73 cooler and I have three monitors to go along with it. My first guess was that I didn’t have enough wattage for my PC to consistently work. If anyone can back up my claim or find another issue that could cause it that would be great!

[fringe widget]

Just defrost it

[rich helm]

That seems like it definitely should be enough

[frigid zinc]

wtf is -.15a

[fringe widget]

you can use msi afterburner to check your power consumption. are you playing any games or anything like that when it's freezing. do you get blue screen of death?

[stoic island]

@frigid zinc about 0.15 amp

[frigid zinc]

uh

[stoic island]

that's not a minus by the way

[glass elm]

rx 5600xt, 1660S, or rtx2060 for a ryzen 5 3600?
(assuming reasonable prices and not overpriced)

[sand falcon]

@glass elm Whichever one you can afford

[glass elm]

so they're all roughly equal in terms of perf?

[sand falcon]

No, the 5600xt/2060 are better. All of them will work though, it's just a matter of how much you're willing to spend. I think the 5600xt would probably be the best price to performance, but I would have to check

[glass elm]

oh ok cool

thanks

[finite lark]

I need help

Just built my first computer, and I can't find where to change boot order in the bios

[glacial umbra]

it might be in the save and exit tab

if you haven't looked there yet

what motherboard do you have?

[finite lark]

In that tab all I see is, save and exit, discard and exit, discard, load UEFI Bios Defaults, and Launch EFI She'll

B550m pro4

[glacial umbra]

did you check your manual?

usually they have bios info and help on there

[finite lark]

I'll search for it again

[glacial umbra]

https://www.msi.com/support/technical_details/MB_Boot_Priority

This might help

[robust tide]

Do you need to get a 2nd m.2 stand off if you are planning on having 2 ssds?

[hollow grail]

yes

if u dont have one

[finite lark]

I finally got it to work, but now the windows menu is saying that there are no driver's to install

Does that mean it's not detecting my dad?

Ssd?

[hollow grail]

plug into usb 2 port

[finite lark]

Plug what into usb 2 port

[hollow grail]

the install usb

[finite lark]

Is that the one on the case, or the motherboard

[hollow grail]

board

[finite lark]

Should I restart the install because it still doesn't locate anything

[hollow grail]

@fast dust WHY WOULD U PUT UR GPU IN CARPET

thats like begging for it to be killed

[fast dust]

lmao it has the cover on the slot thingy

[finite lark]

Stupid question

[hollow grail]

[fast dust]

and i only put it on the carpet for photo

[finite lark]

If I am only using an m.2 for storage do I need to connect a seta power cable up

[fast dust]

its on da box now

[cursive wharf]

tbf electronics are kinda fine with static stuff. Esp something rather large like an entire GPU pcb. It'd be only mildly concerning with a GPU die (how and why that'd be desolder is idk) or CPU cuz they are small

[quartz loom]

Is it even possible to build a PC for like $600 right now?

That would run like simple games like fortnite and do word lol

It's for my aunt and I'm trying to talk her out of a $800 pre built

[stoic island]

with refurb gpu, you might be able to

[robust birch]

Guys can I pair a b550 with a 2000 series cpu?

[quick steeple]

Yes.

[robust birch]

But?

[quick steeple]

There aren't any catches that I know of.

[robust birch]

Even 470?

[quick steeple]

So far, you can use any b450, b550, x470, and x570 with all series of ryzen.

Though, you might need a bios update to use 5000 series down the line. If you plug the cpu and mobo into PC part picker, it will tell you if you might need a bios update.

[robust birch]

Ah true

It's just I'm upgrading and building a new pc out of used and spare parts

[quick steeple]

But with 2000 series cpu, you shouldn't need bios updates for any board.

[robust birch]

And I had a leftover r7 2700 that Amazon let me kept cuz 1 core was damaged

But I think I can fix it

[hollow grail]

https://www.amd.com/en/chipsets/b550

[finite lark]

An precautions to take when removing a graphics card.

Any*

[hollow grail]

maybe look up what ur saying

before spreading misinformation

[robust birch]

Pull the pin off before pulling the card

It might be tight

[finite lark]

The power cord?

[robust birch]

Also

Everything off and unplug the psu

[hollow grail]

no 2nd or 1st gen on b550

[little osprey]

Heavily doubt lol

you would need another core from a 2700

[robust birch]

Give a couple of seconds for the leftover current to go out

[finite lark]

It's been unplugged for like a minute

[little osprey]

Would involve Delidding

etc

[robust birch]

I can disable it in ryzen master

[finite lark]

It won't pull out

[robust birch]

Carefull, watch a video if ur not secure

[little osprey]

Ah

i thought you meant removing the core and putting another in

[robust birch]

Nono that's extreme

[finite lark]

I have done it, just pulling a little too weak

[robust birch]

[hollow grail]

well no matter

b550 wont work lul

[robust birch]

Aaaah shuck

[hollow grail]

yep

[little osprey]

Dumb b550 doesn't get 2nd gen

[robust birch]

Well 470 it is

[hollow grail]

imo dont ever listen to gray names theyre stupid as hell 90% of the time

[little osprey]

^

[robust birch]

Wym?

[hollow grail]

people who just joined lol

names are gray

[robust birch]

Aah

Well I'm now starting to chat more often

But not so young here

[finite lark]

Why isn't bios detecting my m.2 ssd

I re installed it, and refreshed multiple times

I also tried installing a different ssd

[robust birch]

Weird I'm having the same issue but windows DOES detect it and utilizes the space accordingly

Bios says no m.2 but still boots from it

[finite lark]

Unfortunately I am a negative in both

All I needed on the usb drive was the creation key, and my ssd can be blank right

Time to try another m.2 slot

[river sinew]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QDZP7X just got the 3070 I noticed it said 650W min for PSU looking for recommendations on a good PSU and if any other part I should upgrade.

[hollow grail]

wow someone actually fell for that thermaltake aio

[river sinew]

it was from newegg pc builder

i didnt know anything about building PCs

[hollow grail]

makes sense

[river sinew]

thanks for the helpful comment

[hollow grail]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-750f14hg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00006

im literally helping you lmao

this will be fine

[charred bluff]

Should I get the AW271D or the Dell 27 S2721DGF?

[uneven mist]

i think the alienware is better but

idk

im assuming your using it for gaming

[charred bluff]

What about it makes it better for price to performance?

[harsh galleon]

can someone send a link to a white cable extension that would work with a 3060 ti

[stoic island]

Which 3060ti

@harsh galleon aftermarket or FE?

[harsh galleon]

FE

[finite lark]

Do I need to connect to the internet via ethernet to actually use my wireless wifi card

[stoic island]

Thought cablemod had some, guess not

@finite lark no

That defeats the point of using a wireless adapter

[finite lark]

But then why can't I connect to wifi

[stoic island]

Check connections

[finite lark]

The m.2 card is in, and the antenna thing is screwed in

[livid sierra]

can someone help me build a pc ? need advice

[rich helm]

What advice @livid sierra

[silver halo]

can someone tell me if this is a recommendable PSU? https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-120-gp-1000-x1-1000w/p/N82E16817438134?Item=N82E16817438134 is it a A, B or C tier?

[livid sierra]

build advice ? I have the tower I Just don't know what to put inside lol

[stoic island]

@silver halo B tier on ltt's tier list
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

[silver halo]

thanks!

[finite lark]

Could this potentially be what is stopping my m.2 wifi card from working

[viral ore]

no

in that scenario the sata ports are what will stop working

but your wifi card isnt even in the m.2 slot that the warning is referring to

so

[tender fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sNk3W3 should I be concerned about the warnings

if so then what should I switch out with what

[sand falcon]

Do you have a 3000 CPU currently?

[red sage]

just bought a 5600x from a scalper not proud

[hollow grail]

virgin

[tender fjord]

nope

[hollow grail]

jk ily

[sand falcon]

@tender fjord As long as it comes with bios version F10 or newer you'll be good

[tender fjord]

what does that mean

[stoic island]

prob want a board with bios flashback

[sand falcon]

It supports the 5600x, but may or may not need updating out of the box

[tender fjord]

so I just update it

[sand falcon]

To update you will need a 3000 series CPU or a board with bios flashback

[tender fjord]

oh no

[round yarrow]

Nothing to worry about, just go to your motherboard manufacture website and get the latest bios.

[stoic island]

B550m pro vdh wifi looks to be the cheapest b550 board with flashback atm

[tender fjord]

is there another motherboard I can use as a replacement

[sand falcon]

Agreed, pro vdh

[round yarrow]

Pro vdh is aight

Go with that :3

[sand falcon]

@round yarrow Doesn't help getting the latest bios if the board can't be updated

[tender fjord]

alright

[still bay]

officially confirmed my 4tb wd black hdd is dead.

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

[still bay]

doa

[round yarrow]

Yes im aware lol

[stoic island]

rip

[still bay]

i mean i have a 1tb samsung 970 evo in rn so

[round yarrow]

I’m saying usually if u get a warning about bios updates. It’s not a big issue

[hollow grail]

whatd u do to it

[still bay]

im jsut gonna buy like a 2 tb samsung 970 evo when i return this 4tb hdd

it was doa

[round yarrow]

O.

Thats not good

[hollow grail]

newegg shipped it?

[still bay]

yeah

[hollow grail]

newegg kills drives

[still bay]

?

[hollow grail]

garbage tier shipping

[still bay]

it is fast tho

[sand falcon]

Unless you don't have an old CPU, it requires a pretty recent bios version, and the board needs the CPU to flash. Then it's a problem

[hollow grail]

all my friends who have gotten drives from newegg got them damaged

from shipping

[sand falcon]

Mine have been fine

2 4TB barracudas and a 660p

[still bay]

this is my first ever doa component after 10 builds.

so sad.

[hollow grail]

eww smr

[still bay]

@sand falcon thats bc its solid state lol

u could drop it and it would be fine (dont actually do that)

[hollow grail]

and yeah talking abt mech drives

[still bay]

yeah solid state is like alpha when it comes to this kinda thing

[hollow grail]

these are the friends who get 3 drives a month tho lol

[sand falcon]

smr is fine for bulk storage

[hollow grail]

until u need to rebuild the array lul

[still bay]

lol

[sand falcon]

I don't have an array in my PC

[still bay]

whats a solid 3tb nvme ssd? doesnt need to be insane speeds but solid

considering just a 970 evo rn

[viral ore]

no one makes 3tb ssds

[hollow grail]

none

[sand falcon]

bet

[stoic island]

4tb yes

[hollow grail]

[still bay]

then a 2tb im not picky

[stoic island]

2tb yes

[viral ore]

you can get a 2tb one

[hollow grail]

1,2,4,8

[viral ore]

consumer ssds

lets leave it at that lmao

[still bay]

then i will go for 2tb ig

3tb of nvme storage, i might make it to 2021

wait

2022

[hollow grail]

but muh random accelerator from 2011

[sand falcon]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-dc-p4600-3-2tb/p/1B4-008A-000X1?Description=3TB SSD&cm_re=3TB_SSD-_-1B4-008A-000X1-_-Product&quicklink=true

[viral ore]

i know theres like a 2.84TB something or other

[sand falcon]

3.2 intel

[hollow grail]

sas

nvm

[viral ore]

thats me

[hollow grail]

pcie

[still bay]

u guys think a 2tb sn750 is a good choice?

[viral ore]

if its on sale

[still bay]

its gonna be for like games and stuff

idc about the money

[sand falcon]

@hollow grail https://pcpartpicker.com/product/27X2FT/intel-internal-hard-drive-ssdpecme032t401
pcie

[viral ore]

mp34 cheaper

[hollow grail]

if u dont care get a 970 plus

[sand falcon]

Does mp34 have a 2TB?

[viral ore]

nope

[still bay]

we're talking m.2 drives tho

[viral ore]

just checked lol

[hollow grail]

i know i glanced at the connector and am baked

[still bay]

i could raid o 2 1tb samsung evos lol

[viral ore]

theres a reason he didnt mention you

goof

[still bay]

damn

[hollow grail]

gotem

[still bay]

like ok but u know what i mean

[viral ore]

[hollow grail]

970 plus isnt crazy expensive

[viral ore]

they look at you in disappointment

[still bay]

if my boot drive is a 970 evo do u think imma get a 970 plus

[sand falcon]

How about a B+M key nvme drive?

[still bay]

see this is what i hate, i look up "2tb nvme ssd" and it shows me literally just laptops, ALL by evoc

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=2tb+m.2+nvme+SSD

its just all laptops

[sand falcon]

One sec

[hollow grail]

bigger bro

[sand falcon]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693 600038497 601193224

[viral ore]

crucial p5 is decent iirc

[still bay]

ty