building-and-recc-chat

[urban trellis]

Lol

[stoic island]

0 ping to server via ethernet

1 ping via wifi

[urban trellis]

I have ethernet to my pc I still get 60 ping

I live in Canada so

Do u live in Pennsylvania cuz that's 0 ping zone

[stoic island]

what

no

[urban trellis]

Lol

[wanton cliff]

depends on where you are trying to ping to

[little osprey]

i5 10400/GTX 980Ti on Cyberpunk 2077 thoughts?

16GB 2*8 2666

[upbeat lodge]

Fire

🔥

[muted patio]

40-50 FPS, 1080p, low settings

[wanton cliff]

literally, your pc will be on fire

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[muted patio]

maybe a mix of low-medium

[little osprey]

That’s... not good

[muted patio]

Well, it's a 980TI

[little osprey]

I’m in Canada

[little osprey]

I would still that that it would be better than that crap

[upbeat lodge]

The game will look like a 🥔

[muted patio]

No

[little osprey]

980Ti was high end

[hollow grail]

lmao gf has 980ti

[wanton cliff]

was

[muted patio]

My RTX2060 at 1440p barely manages 60 FPS on medium

[wanton cliff]

isnt anymore

[muted patio]

It's the new crysis

Ot

[hollow grail]

gets a solid 60 at 1080p low

[little osprey]

980Ti is still capable

[muted patio]

980TI is 5 years old

[wanton cliff]

no lol

[upbeat lodge]

No

[muted patio]

CP2077 is a beasty game, it will suffer

[little osprey]

Well I thought the CPU may carry the team in 1080p

[muted patio]

no

[little osprey]

For games like FN it is

[wanton cliff]

no

[hollow grail]

my normal 980 struggles

depends but indoors ur looking at close to 60

[muted patio]

Fortnight isn't a good comparison

[hollow grail]

outdoors expect closer to 30

[wanton cliff]

why do you pay so much for vps and offsite storage and stuff but then you go and dont get a new graphics card

[little osprey]

Why not

[upbeat lodge]

YeAh we talking about cp2077

[muted patio]

Because it's not nearly as intensive nor graphically taxing as CP2077

[hollow grail]

i have a 2080

my 980 is for a vm

[wanton cliff]

because its a completely different game on a completely different API with completely different graphical demands

[hollow grail]

felt like testing cyberpunk in it

on*

[wanton cliff]

ah

[little osprey]

Would ark be a better comparison

[wanton cliff]

nvm

[upbeat lodge]

Not

Really

[wanton cliff]

no

[muted patio]

Ye, 980TI, 40-50 FPS average on low, maybe med-low settings CP2077

[upbeat lodge]

That’s a 6 year old game

[wanton cliff]

the only games that are a good comparison are Crysis Remastered and MS Flight SIm.

[upbeat lodge]

I love it but I a buggy mess

[wanton cliff]

and even then CYberpunk is much more intensive

[upbeat lodge]

It’s

[hollow grail]

now the 980 is currently being shelf decoration

[wanton cliff]

nice decoration

[little osprey]

Is it partly because of poor game optimization?

[wanton cliff]

partly

[hollow grail]

its a super sexy blower

[muted patio]

No

It's because the 980TI is 5 years old and CP2077 is bleeding edge

[little osprey]

980Ti has 6 gigs of ram

[hollow grail]

and?

[little osprey]

Seems legit

[muted patio]

Means nothing

[wanton cliff]

literally made for next generation hardware

[upbeat lodge]

It’s ram

[little osprey]

VRAM means nothing oh really?

[upbeat lodge]

🐏

[muted patio]

It's also GDDR4

[little osprey]

[hollow grail]

@muted patio it means u can turn the textures up

[muted patio]

It's GDDR4

[hollow grail]

to medium

[muted patio]

Or 3?

[little osprey]

Thought it was 5

[hollow grail]

[upbeat lodge]

[hollow grail]

its gddr5

[muted patio]

OH

Suprising

But still

[hollow grail]

gddr4 was almost never used wtf

[wanton cliff]

point is, Cyberpunk is simply too good for a 980Ti

[hollow grail]

wdym surprising gddr4 is like

[muted patio]

-_-

[hollow grail]

rare

[wanton cliff]

rare

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[muted patio]

I'm not even gonna tell you what my first GPU was

The only one Intel made until current

[upbeat lodge]

What ?

[wanton cliff]

how

[stoic island]

4000

[wanton cliff]

I thought only Linus and a few dumpsters had those

[hollow grail]

@wanton cliff it was, gddr4 was more expensive and 5 came right after it so 90% of cards went from 3 to 5

[wanton cliff]

im talking to the other guy

[little osprey]

What about my other friends 3100 and 1650S on cyberpunk

16GB 3000mhz 2*8

[wanton cliff]

still npo

[upbeat lodge]

No

[hollow grail]

i mean

[muted patio]

1650S might be medium at 1080p

[wanton cliff]

Cyberpunk 2077 brings a 3990x with 3090s in SLI to it's knees. a 1660 super has nothing

[upbeat lodge]

I say 1660super and better

[little osprey]

Well no crap

It’s more expensive

[upbeat lodge]

On low

[hollow grail]

980ti could prolly push 60fps low at like 75-50% render scale

[wanton cliff]

est

[little osprey]

1080p?

[hollow grail]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

720p more like

[little osprey]

No, 4K

[upbeat lodge]

No

[hollow grail]

@wanton cliff its not a potato card tbh

[little osprey]

^^^

[wanton cliff]

wasnt a potato

[hollow grail]

still gets stuff done at 1080p

[little osprey]

^^

it should do 60 fps med tho
looking at specs and all

[wanton cliff]

but you have to remember that its cyberpunk

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah not 4K tho

[little osprey]

The 4K was a joke

[upbeat lodge]

Better be

[little osprey]

What about my 3900XT and RX6800

How would it fair

[hollow grail]

https://youtu.be/JdL3AB3W0tI

[muted patio]

-_-

[hollow grail]

looks not bad

like mid 50s

on high

[upbeat lodge]

🥔

[little osprey]

i3 8100

[wanton cliff]

not XT? medium settings on 1080p maybe

[little osprey]

[little osprey]

I said XT

3900XT

[wanton cliff]

you didnt but ok

[little osprey]

thats still a dual core with HT tho

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[wanton cliff]

im talking about the GPU

[little osprey]

That’s GOTTA be cap

I’m not getting that game then

That’s ABSURD

[wanton cliff]

yeah ik

[muted patio]

wat

[upbeat lodge]

It’s a hard game to run

[hollow grail]

idk where ur getting that from

[muted patio]

RX800 would crush CP2077@1440p

[hollow grail]

1080p will be fine with 6800

[little osprey]

He says my PC would only run 1080p med

[muted patio]

OH hellz no

[hollow grail]

even 1440p

[muted patio]

1440p high to ultra

[wanton cliff]

not really

[muted patio]

Yeah really

[hollow grail]

high to ultra easy

[little osprey]

Now THAT is more like it

[stoic island]

rx800

rx6800?

[muted patio]

Ye

Typo

[hollow grail]

i run it maxed and hit around 50-90 on a 2080

[stoic island]

I mean

lemme check testing data

[hollow grail]

closer to 40-60 with rt on psycho

[little osprey]

BRB

[wanton cliff]

if thats true, nevermind then

[hollow grail]

and theyre a girl btw

[wanton cliff]

true

ty

not the point tho

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

it appears I overestimated Cyberpunk a little bit

[upbeat lodge]

Same

[wanton cliff]

only a little

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[stoic island]

1440p high, not ultra, 80fps average on rx6800 @muted patio

[little osprey]

though cyberpunk is eh
i would wait for optimization patches & bug fixes before playing it lol

[stoic island]

dunno about crushing

but it's good

[muted patio]

Better than my RTX2060

[hollow grail]

have played the hell out of it

its great

[muted patio]

So for 1080p, it'll be fine

[hollow grail]

missing some stuff but i feel like it isnt rly an open world game like gta

its more like uhhhh

[stoic island]

for 1080p GN did benchmark too one sec

[hollow grail]

outer worlds

where the world is open but its not openworld if that makes sense

[stoic island]

1080p ultra, 100fps avg

[wanton cliff]

or like Watch Dogs (the original one)

[upbeat lodge]

I like that game

[wanton cliff]

same

its alright

[upbeat lodge]

It’s fun

[wanton cliff]

fun to screw around with with friends

I found my house in that game

pretty cool

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[hollow grail]

original watch dogs is super fun

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah fun with friends

[hollow grail]

just in general

[little osprey]

i am still waiting for my pc to test cp2077 tho

[stoic island]

Watch dogs 1 was fun single player

[upbeat lodge]

It’s multiplayer to

[wanton cliff]

Wasn't overall very graphically impressive; didn't need to be

[hollow grail]

https://youtu.be/Kk2G6zc5pKo?t=904

this timestamp was how i played

was hella fun

[little osprey]

I heard you can change your pp size

[wanton cliff]

in cyberpunk yeah

[little osprey]

[wanton cliff]

or give youself cooch

[hollow grail]

biggest boober they have is c cup tho

[little osprey]

the pp customization is really silly imo

[stoic island]

that reputation tho

[wanton cliff]

medium is premium

[hollow grail]

gf was upset

[wanton cliff]

lol

Flat is Justice, Medium is Premium, Oppai is Truth

CP2077 doesnt have Oppai

but thats ok

[hollow grail]

so weird how theres fat ppl in cyberpunk

like u can mod ur body however

[little osprey]

Wdym

[hollow grail]

why would u stay fat

[wanton cliff]

not everyone can afford good augmentations

[little osprey]

The fatter the better

[hollow grail]

but some of the chars that have chrome like

are still fat

[coarse coral]

wrong chat for this

[hollow grail]

o tru

[still roost]

F*ck it, trans time#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow grail]

didnt even check channel

back to hoping someone messages in #storage-devices uwu

[wanton cliff]

datawhore

[hollow grail]

tru

[little osprey]

rename #storage-devices to #lili-cave

[hollow grail]

true

[little osprey]

btw, my keyboard getting dusty after one month and 3 weeks whiout usage

i might get a hub and use it to play skies of deception with kb+mouse

[terse condor]

In case yall were having trouble deciding between the rtx 3090 and 6900xt here's the specs. You're welcome

[glass crane]

Amazing comparison

[upbeat lodge]

Umm

🤔

[hollow grail]

true

i hope amd does something alright next gen

[blazing aurora]

which is better, r5 2600 or i3 10100

[muted patio]

Roughly speaking, the 10100

[blazing aurora]

okay

[little osprey]

though 10400 is like 50$ bucks more

and it's 6c/12t

[muted patio]

10100

Ah

Well, if you want to get technical

The intel is better single core performance, IE day to day use. AMD is better multi-core performance

Really can't go wrong with either one

[blazing aurora]

gotcha

I might get the 10400 in the long run

[little osprey]

yeah, go 10400 or 10400f
whatever is the cheapest rn

because amd cpu prices went brrrrrr

[dapper hornet]

@earnest olive hey just so you know, remember my issues regarding a cluster of BSOD, USB 3 and ctd issues? I've given up. Contacted the board supplier today, hopefully I can get a replacement board without having to send this one back first

[little osprey]

nice

[muted patio]

My wife had an odd issue with that. Turns out Adobe Lightroom pitched a fit with her phone plugged in with the application open

Very odd and documented

[blazing aurora]

whats a good gpu to pair with the 10400

[arctic jungle]

@blazing aurora rx 570, rx 580

gtx 1060

1060 6 gb

[little osprey]

1060 ti doesn't exist

tf

[arctic jungle]

i mean the 6 gb flavor

my b

@little osprey

[dapper hornet]

is that in response to my issues?

[little osprey]

lol

[blazing aurora]

flavor

[arctic jungle]

??

[little osprey]

budget?

[arctic jungle]

don't spend more than 200$ with that cpu

[dapper hornet]

^

[little osprey]

ram
not flavor
it's not a consumable :kekw:

[little osprey]

why not

[arctic jungle]

??

flavor is a term

[dapper hornet]

price to performance ratio

[arctic jungle]

used to describe variance

[little osprey]

wdym

[arctic jungle]

flavors of keyboard switches, flavors of AIBs, flavors of GPU variants @little osprey

it's basic grammar

[dapper hornet]

Your GPU should be about 30% of your build price. That CPU won't require a beefy GPU for it's price

[little osprey]

10400f should handle a 3060 ti just fine

[arctic jungle]

yeah

[little osprey]

thats...not how it's works.

[arctic jungle]

but at that point, get a 5600xt for a hundred less and buy a better cpu

[arctic jungle]

uh

no

[little osprey]

10400 is fine tho
he might not need to upgrade for a few years

[arctic jungle]

get a better cpu

if it's in the budget

[blazing aurora]

on the topic of the 10400, should I spend the extra 50$ and get that for the long run

[little osprey]

yes

[blazing aurora]

right now I haven't built my pc, so the i3-10100 is still laying there

[little osprey]

if you doing a build rn
10400 & 10400f is the best budget cpus rn

[blazing aurora]

ah gotcha

I'll return this 10100 then, thanks for the heads-up @little osprey

[little osprey]

alright

[arctic jungle]

??

if u need budget cpu wait

rocket lake in january

[little osprey]

i said right now lol

[arctic jungle]

will make 10th gen cheaper

[little osprey]

not later

[arctic jungle]

jan is literally 2 weeks away

wait if u need a budget cpu

[blazing aurora]

so I should hold off on buying the 10400?

[little osprey]

some people can't wait tho.

[arctic jungle]

yes

[blazing aurora]

for 11th gen

[arctic jungle]

wait

[little osprey]

up to you really

[blazing aurora]

I don't absolutely need to build now, but I'd like to

I have all my parts ready

[arctic jungle]

don't buy 11th gen, but buy a 9th gen. 11th gen will drive down the prices

[little osprey]

he already got the parts lol

[arctic jungle]

u can probs get 9600k for ~125$ then

[blazing aurora]

amazon has returns up to Jan 15th so I should be good

[next kestrel]

9900k 200$?

[arctic jungle]

probably

rn 9700k is 200

[next kestrel]

yea

[arctic jungle]

wait

how much did u get the 10400 for

[little osprey]

well
if you can grab a 9th gen board & cpu tho
if not you can just go 10400f or 10400

[little osprey]

10400 is like 150$ rn

[arctic jungle]

bruh

that's such a bad deal

[little osprey]

thats not?

[arctic jungle]

it is?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/512485/intel-core-i5-9600k-coffee-lake-37ghz-six-core-lga-1151-boxed-processor

this is much much better @blazing aurora

buy this one

and get a b360 mobo

sry

z370*

[blazing aurora]

b460?

oh ok

thanks @arctic jungle

[arctic jungle]

ofc

10400 is bad

[blazing aurora]

is that much better than the i3?

[arctic jungle]

never do 10400

[blazing aurora]

the 9600k

[arctic jungle]

yesss

and it's overclockable

[blazing aurora]

niiiice

[arctic jungle]

boosts to some 4.8

[blazing aurora]

so 9600k + 580 8gb is a good combo?

[arctic jungle]

and u get an extra 4 threads

[arctic jungle]

yeah

[blazing aurora]

damn only $150

[next kestrel]

Z390 board needed btw

[blazing aurora]

that's a good deal

[arctic jungle]

I mean

3060 is coming soon...

jan

is the announcement

[blazing aurora]

can I use the b460m-a mobo that I already have?

[little osprey]

nope

[blazing aurora]

damnit

[arctic jungle]

different socket

[cerulean trellis]

how do you know if a aio water cooler is broken

?

[arctic jungle]

if ur cpu is hot

[cerulean trellis]

well i open 2 tabs insta 80 degrees

[arctic jungle]

ok

[blazing aurora]

wait it's 1151?

[arctic jungle]

probably broken

[arctic jungle]

yeah

[cerulean trellis]

yeah

[arctic jungle]

9th gen

[blazing aurora]

isn't that compatible with 1200?

[arctic jungle]

no

[little osprey]

@blazing aurora also you gotta buy a cooler aswell for the 9600k

[arctic jungle]

no sockets are cross compatible

[blazing aurora]

I'm pretty sure I looked it up and I saw that 1200 is compat. with 115x

[stoic island]

coolers are

because the size is basically the same

[blazing aurora]

ohh

my bad

[stoic island]

but different sockets are different for a reason

[little osprey]

also intel changes socket every two gen

with 11th begin the EOL for the lga 1200 socket

[blazing aurora]

I guess now was a bad time to make a budget build

[little osprey]

sorta

[arctic jungle]

very bad time

wait

like

4 months

[obsidian temple]

3080 in stock

[little osprey]

gpus aren't too friendly on budget builds rn

[obsidian temple]

msi

[arctic jungle]

not anymroe

[obsidian temple]

right now

[cerulean trellis]

my fans on my aio work but the block does not light up nor work

[next kestrel]

msi bad brand

[arctic jungle]

not anymore

[obsidian temple]

rly?

[arctic jungle]

uh no

[obsidian temple]

Msi is good but have bad reputation

[little osprey]

@blazing aurora so what you gonna do tho?
9600k or like...10400

[next kestrel]

no they're just a bad brand in general

[arctic jungle]

9600k is better by far

[arctic jungle]

their products are nice

[blazing aurora]

I already have the b460m-a so I might go with the 10400

[obsidian temple]

Zotac and pny are the only bad imo

[arctic jungle]

ur losing maybe 50% performance there

between the 10400 and the 9600k

[blazing aurora]

50%??

jesus

[arctic jungle]

damn typos

[little osprey]

rx 4xx and 5xx armor vrm go brrrrr

[arctic jungle]

30%

not 50

[blazing aurora]

oh ok

[arctic jungle]

doeesn't scale

but still

[blazing aurora]

still not ideal

[next kestrel]

you havent seen the 1080ti armor

[arctic jungle]

you won't be able to do more than fps games with a 10400

[next kestrel]

lmao

[blazing aurora]

I already bought the parts so you understand my predicament

[next kestrel]

well

[arctic jungle]

if you can return it, do it

[next kestrel]

10400 isnt as bad as he says it is

[little osprey]

yeah

[arctic jungle]

im not saying it's bad

im saying 9600k is better

[little osprey]

10400 gonna last years still

[arctic jungle]

9600k gonna last more years :)

[next kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRL6yxZuYk

[little osprey]

depends

[blazing aurora]

I'm in shambles

lmao

[little osprey]

9th gen is not Hyper threaded

[blazing aurora]

given my current situation would you lads recommend the 10400 or 9600k?

[next kestrel]

10400

return process is difficult

[blazing aurora]

on amazon it's pretty easy

[little osprey]

i would rather go 10400
returning the parts gonna be a hard process and you gonna have a headache s

and 9600k needs a z390 aswell

to OC

[blazing aurora]

? amazon return process is simple

[next kestrel]

i returned 1 mobo and they said they didnt recieve it

so i had to talk to the support for like 4 days

before the person said it was clear

[blazing aurora]

honestly amazon customer service is very generous

okay I appreciate your opinions, I think I'll go with the 10400 because I already have the motherboard

even though that's a sick ass deal @arctic jungle

[little osprey]

yeah

@blazing aurora though if you had some money to spend on your build
you could go like that cpu+z390+better cooling(if needed)

[blazing aurora]

lemme post my build

hold on

[little osprey]

ok

[blazing aurora]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gxzmmk

what parts (besides cpu obviously) should I upgrade when I get the $?

down the line

[little osprey]

that mobo lol

[next kestrel]

gpu

or before that, PSU

[little osprey]

no vrm cooling
no 4 ram slots
also yeah
gpu and psu kinda needs a upgrade later on

[blazing aurora]

for now is the current build (replace the i3 w the 10400) good?

[little osprey]

yep

[blazing aurora]

that's a relief

[next kestrel]

yeah but forget about getting an 11th gen i5 in the future:P

[blazing aurora]

why do you say that meep

mobo?

[little osprey]

that extra 6 threads might come in hand later when games start using more cores or when you decide to do some productivity work

[next kestrel]

yea that mobo has really weak vrms

[little osprey]

yep

@blazing aurora anyway
to upgrade:
psu
mobo
gpu

[blazing aurora]

@little osprey thanks. for now though, the i5-10400 and 580 are solid ?

[muted patio]

Ye

[little osprey]

yep

should run most games for now

2021 games however might struggle on the gpu side.

[strong bolt]

anyone know when the Crucial 16GB Ballistix DDR4 3600 MHz rgb will be back in stock?

[stark bramble]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8LkHz

Ok I've made a friend q budget list, thoughts?

[little osprey]

could have added in a 10400 tho

unless he is a very tight budget

[stark bramble]

Nah its somewhat flexible

Anything else

[little osprey]

that card is also eh...uh

is that build for like this month?

or like is he gonna buy it on next year?

[stark bramble]

I mean hes on a pretty low budget so like, even if it was for next year idk what would change

[little osprey]

alot actually

not so much on other parts
but mostly likely to change cpu and gpu prices

[stark bramble]

I think he'll buy it in like a few months maybe 5-9

[blazing aurora]

you could get a used 1660 super for 170$ or less

[little osprey]

5-9 months? well thats better

because 1650 is a bad card for gaming rn
it's below a 570 & 580

and with new console gen, it's gonna be hard for the old hardware to run new games of 2021 and so on.

old/low end

[stark bramble]

So what should I put in there

[blazing aurora]

try to avoid getting gpus at msrp

[little osprey]

i mean...the build is kinda fine
10400 would be a better option due to it begin 50$ bucks more and gonna last more than the 10100

[stark bramble]

Alr replaced that

[little osprey]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/512484/intel-core-i7-9700k-coffee-lake-36ghz-eight-core-lga-1151-boxed-processor

oh also thats a good cpu aswell

if he lives near a micro center

oh wait nvm
budget build

[idle hawk]

@balmy patio i summon you

[sullen river]

works fine for me

[little osprey]

So my 5800x is arriving soon and I want my mobo to be up to date with drivers, but then I don’t have a graphics card yet so there is no input

[stoic island]

Uh?

[little osprey]

Any way to update a mobo without a monitor?

[stoic island]

You can't download anything without a cpu

Wait, you want bios update or driver update

[little osprey]

Bios

[stoic island]

What motherboard

[balmy patio]

i'm taking a test hold on

[idle hawk]

Guess what came in

Oh ok

[little osprey]

Aorus master

[idle hawk]

Nope founder edition

[severe axle]

why are you buying more gpus

[idle hawk]

Got this in a trade

[arctic jungle]

why wouldn't you buy more gpus

[idle hawk]

Thank you

[arctic jungle]

so far I have bought 7 ampere cards but have not used one

[idle hawk]

2000s or 3000s series cards

[little osprey]

[idle hawk]

Alex Amper cards have been around for 2 or 3 years now?

[muted patio]

Ampere is 3000 series

[idle hawk]

No

[muted patio]

Yes

2000 series is Turing

[little osprey]

Yeah

Still

[small osprey]

ampere is 3000 series @idle hawk

[little osprey]

Turing is last gen

[idle hawk]

I searched it

Yea

At most I had was 5 ampere cards

And I'm currently using one

[sick heart]

and some quadros are ampere

[stoic island]

@little osprey which board?

[little osprey]

X570 aorus master

[stoic island]

It had bios flashback

[white needle]

Looking for a box to upgrade from my current intel i7 with 128 gb. I want an intel i9 with 256GB of ram with a case and power supply. I can transfer the video card and hard drives

[stoic island]

@little osprey so unplug literally every connector on the motherboard, other than 24pin and eps 8 pin power cables, and use bios flasg back.

X570 aorus master has bios flashback

@white needle uh 256gb of ram..? Do you mean storage..?

[white needle]

No I dont mean storage like a hard drive. My client wants to upgrade to 256MB of ram. The i9-10980XE 18 core will take a max of 256MB ram

[stoic island]

Oh HEDT

That's gonna be... Interesting

[white needle]

We are upgrading an engineering firm to something if it is available.

[stoic island]

I can make a list for you in a moment, any budget constraints?

[little osprey]

So all I have to do is a bios flashback?

Thanks

[stoic island]

@little osprey I think Gigabyte calls it Q flash plus or something, check in the manual, but yea, flash the bios on via usb stick without having a CPU

[little osprey]

I’m also looking for a decent graphics card to play at 1080p until I can get a 3080

Any ideas?

[stoic island]

@white needle any requirements in terms of ports? HEDT usually means some crazy workload that needs a bunch of one thing or another, for example, if you need it to fit 4 GPUs, or like 20 usb drives, etc.

[sick heart]

maybe a cheap 1660ti off ebay @little osprey

[stoic island]

@little osprey looking used or new card

[little osprey]

New would be preferable

[stoic island]

Used you can get away with a rx580

[little osprey]

But something less than $300

[stoic island]

New wise a 1650 super if prices are normal

it SHOULD BE ~170$ or so

1660 super SHOULD BE ~240$ or so

[white needle]

We are not constrained by a budget. This is to get the best of parts for him

[stoic island]

And 5600xt SHOULD BE ~280$ I believe

[little osprey]

And it can play all new recent titles at mid-high settings? Talking about 1660

[stoic island]

Alright

Mid 1080p for sure

Just not cyberpunk

I think we know that part already tho

[little osprey]

Great, not into the cyberpunk craze anyways

[stoic island]

@white needle alright, so 10980xe is set, and what GPUs will be transfered over?

[tender oriole]

Coming along well

[stoic island]

Nice

@white needle And by the way, if this won't immediately be built, it could be worth seeing what AMD has to bring in terms of their next generation Threadripper CPUs.

[white needle]

We already have a working box with an i7 and 128 gb of ram so we will be transfering the video card and hard drive

We cant move to the AMD since there are propietary sofware packages and we must go to the Intel i9 with 256GB of ram with a case and power supply.

[finite lark]

Is the zotac gaming twin fan 1660 super good ?

For a budget build atleast

[white needle]

Based upon this group I assume NewEgg cant accomodate the request for an I9 with 256GB of ram

[lilac rampart]

Here is my possible build. With my mono selection could I use the 580 instead of the 560? Also is my cpu fan to big? Thanks in advance. https://newegg.io/0588b48

[stoic island]

Fair

@lilac rampart I'd personally use https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

@white needle I'm taking a look at the ram prices atm, I was going to just go by QVL for 8x32gb compatibility since it's HEDT and a lot of money is being spent, but those sets of ram looks like it'll set you back 300$ more than a set that's not on the QVL for 8x32gb, what do you think?

[white needle]

We are not at the cost part of this yet. I just need to find the right parts and make sure they are available for shippment in a day or two

[stoic island]

Fair, I'll just slap together what will be compatible then, later adjustments can be made

[white needle]

If there is actual stock and it can accommodate the i9 and 256GB ram has a case and appropriate power supply we can move forward

[little osprey]

yall know of a good but cheap wifi card?

[stoic island]

@white needle Assuming you have GPU and storage already, let's talk about this to start off and see if this fits what you need
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsjcgt

According to ASRock, that board looks like it'll support the CPU out of box.

[viral ore]

x299

[stoic island]

yas

256gb ram is fun

[white needle]

I am ready to start pricing this if you have the parts ready

[stoic island]

By the way, in case there is some miscommunication, I'm just here to help with choosing parts that's available retail, and I am not building this myself for sale.

[viral ore]

yeah, looking back at past messages, what this person wants isnt very clear

[misty needle]

quick question. I noticed my 3700X cpu is not getting to full speed, I have a great AOI cooler, so I think this may be a power issue. I recently got a new PSU (for my 2080 Super) and noticed that I never plugged in 1 of the 4 pin connect on the top of my motherboard. could this be what's causing my CPU to throttle?

[viral ore]

honestly, taking everything into account, i have a feeling this person is thinking he is scamming newegg...

which

he isnt

[stoic island]

@misty needle Standard CPU behavior won't boost to "full" speed until under load

[viral ore]

"Computrs Inc", new to discord, typical scammer lingo,

or maybe you're just not in the right place

[white needle]

Hello Sassy you should stop being this way. I run a successful Managed Service firm. You just happen to be jaded so stop being obnoxious.

[viral ore]

hmm

[misty needle]

@stoic island do you think I need the second connection? I think my 5950x should be comming soon

[stoic island]

For 3700x, definitely not

[white needle]

Is this truly for Newegg sales people. We are ready to issue a PO and make our purchase for the parts if they are correct for our client

[stoic island]

5950x, if you're going to OC, MAYBE you'll want another 4 pin

[viral ore]

well, scammer or not, whatever it is you are trying to accomplish wont work here, all we ever will do is suggest things for people to buy @white needle

[stoic island]

No, this isn't where you go for business contracts, this is for consumers.

[misty needle]

@stoic island ok last question, thank you for your help BTW.. are those the same pin layouts as a PCI power cable? can I use one of those?

[toxic widget]

Hello, so I don’t know much about how the ram latency stuff but I was wondering if 16G 3600 16-18-18-36
Is good?

[stoic island]

@misty needle No

@toxic widget Crucial ballistix?

[toxic widget]

No corsair vengeance pro.

[stoic island]

hm

[toxic widget]

The 16-18-18-36 just confuses me

[stoic island]

I dunno if Corsair uses b die at all

for G.skill it'll be low end b die, which could be good

for Crucial it'll be Micron Rev E, which is good

Corsair die wise I dunno what it'll be

anyways @toxic widget if you're not looking for OCing, any 3600mhz cl16 is good

[toxic widget]

Oh ok Thank you!

[stoic island]

16-18-18-36 vs 16-19-19-39 main difference is the possible dies and OCing

[toxic widget]

[cyan stone]

This build look OK?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xqmwYg

[wheat plover]

Yeah

[stoic island]

hm

I don't like it

[cyan stone]

😮

[misty needle]

@stoic island this is what comufed me

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx750m-750w/p/N82E16817139051?Description=CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M&cm_re=CORSAIR_- CX Series Modular CX750M-_-17-139-051-_-Product&quicklink=true

[cyan stone]

Any recommendations then?

[stoic island]

@cyan stone what's with all the extra fans

pretty sure x570 gaming x was also one of the boards with VRM overheating problems

and I'd get like a B550 aorus elite ax either way for bios flashback

I'd change the AIO out for a better one

[cyan stone]

replacing all the fans... Unnecessary expense, I know, but I like those and a buddy is selling them to me for cheap

[stoic island]

ick

I'd get a better aio either way like a Galahad 360mm or EK-AIO 360mm or Freezer ii 360mm

for top mount

[misty needle]

so this mobo has an 8 pin CPU power, plus another 4 pin power?

[cyan stone]

Hmm. I understand it won't be the best performing, but is it still "OK" in it's current configuration?

[cyan stone]

Does the Gaming-X not have Gigabyte's Q-Flash thing?

[stoic island]

I don't think it does

oh yea 3600c18 ram is not optimal either

I don't like a 240mm aio anywhere in a case that fits 360mm aios tbh

[cyan stone]

Performance wise, does CL14 vs 16 vs 18 yield significantly different results?

[cyan stone]

It's on their product page. Is it only in select revisions maybe?

[stoic island]

lemme check

[viral ore]

the additional 4pin is optional

[muted patio]

For an AMD CPU, yes. SOme games it's good for 5-10 FPS

[stoic island]

oh it does

[misty needle]

@viral ore thank you. just don't know what PSU connecter to use for it

[cyan stone]

Ok. Thanks for the input guys 🙂

[viral ore]

its a cpu aux power connector

modern systems use 8 pin EPS connectors

obv, using both connectors allows for the CPU to draw more power, but i dont think there's a single cpu that is constrained by a single 8 pin at stock.

[misty needle]

@viral ore this is my cpu, and the cables are odd, to me LOL been building for years and never saw this before https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx750m-750w/p/N82E16817139051?Description=CORSAIR - CX Series Modular CX750M&cm_re=CORSAIR_- CX Series Modular CX750M-_-17-139-051-_-Product&quicklink=true

[viral ore]

oh, the fact that they're modular?

[misty needle]

almost like it used the same cable for PCI and CPU power

I did not see a cable marked for CPU in the box other then the 8 pin and 24 pin stuff, but the 24 pin is not modulaer

[muted patio]

Yeah, just use the 8 pin

And no, PCI and CPU are keyed differently

They won't interchange unless you force them

Well, on the other end, not the PSU end

[misty needle]

LOL thank you so much for all your help everyone! @stoic island @muted patio @viral ore

[blazing aurora]

is there a reliable site that i can use (besides userbenchmark) to compare cpu/gpu performance?

[languid nimbus]

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2020/2755

This one is pretty good

[pallid basin]

i dont know if this is alot to ask but can someone build a pc in pc part picker for $500 that will handle streaming and good fps on fortnite?

[torpid notch]

do you think it could be $600

[torpid notch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6xGGht 600 buck

[severe axle]

1650 does not have turing nvenc though

[stoic island]

Iirc some versions do

[barren bone]

Anyone know what a good of build would be for under 1000 but I can play good games and has enough storage for war zone and other games

[desert gulch]

@torpid notch bruh I'd at least get an ssd

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fxvn9N $500 is difficult, will need used gpu

[stoic island]

or iGPU

[earnest olive]

ehh

if they want to stream

older used nvidia gpu worth it i think

3400G won't have enough power

to handle the game and x264 very well

[stoic island]

I mean like 10400 w iGPU

[earnest olive]

...to game on?

[stoic island]

yea uhd630 is a step down but

cpu power

[earnest olive]

i don't think 40 fps at 900p low is a good experience in a competitive game

used 1060 is worth it

get a 4c/8t that'll handle the game then use nvenc

pascal nvenc still isn't bad

[mystic needle]

can someone help me understand what the difference is between all the 6800 xt models that are put out by different companies cause i want to buy a 6800xt once it’s out but i have no idea what makes one better over the other

[earnest olive]

basically

all of the 6800xt models are way overpriced compared to reference

and none of them are available

buy a 3080 instead

[stoic island]

lol

tbh 3080 does seem to have better stock than 6800xt

[earnest olive]

i was shocked to see 6800xt AIB models going for 850-900

crazy

[mystic needle]

oh no yeah definitely

[stoic island]

meh, 5700xt aib models were kinda like that, most of them over reference msrp

[earnest olive]

6800XT was supposed to be the cheaper 3080 with less features as a result

yeah but not 250 over reference msrp

[stoic island]

I remember like 600$ 5700xts

[earnest olive]

i bought my 3080 vision for 770 and the cooler is already really good

[stoic island]

yea 3080 aib cards are nice

[earnest olive]

65C with 60% fan speed in fire strike ultra

very quiet

[mystic needle]

so basically the first one that was out would be the better value?

[earnest olive]

and that's overclocked to 2ghz

[stoic island]

do I hear
FURMARK TIME

[earnest olive]

@mystic needle as someone who jumped on the 6800xt hype train and bought a custom engraved gpu stand with radeon on it

just don't look at the radeon cards lol

[stoic island]

basically the only difference between all the aib cards is the shroud

[earnest olive]

buy a 3080 instead

i wanted a 6800xt nitro+ se

[stoic island]

and heatsink

[earnest olive]

i believed frank azor when he said 6800xt would have better stock than 3080

how naive i was

[mystic needle]

freesync works with nvidia right?

[stoic island]

btw do this generation of Radeon cards have any thermal problems?

[earnest olive]

yes my 3080 running with freesync rn

[stoic island]

I would hope it works if I'm using it >:P

[earnest olive]

even my old 1080ti worked with freesync

and 1060

nvidia has supported freesync for a while

it'll just say the display is not validated

but it'll work regardless

[stoic island]

doesn't really matter, it works.

[mystic needle]

oooh

so which 3080 should i be getting though?

[vital oracle]

can somebody join vc and help me build pc now?

please

[earnest olive]

whichever one you can find unless you're very patient and very concerned about aesthetics

although 3080 stock is much better than 6800xt stock it's still quite hard to get

took me 3 months to buy the specific model i wanted

[mystic needle]

eesh

[earnest olive]

i have a white build so i wanted the vision

[fallen raven]

i wish there was a dark mode

[mystic needle]

is cooling the main difference between all of the different 3080’s

[earnest olive]

dark mode in nvidia control panel?

how much time are you spending in nvidia control panel lol

cooling and looks yeah

[hazy rune]

Hehe graphical settings hehe

[earnest olive]

none of the models are really bad in terms of cooling

i wanted the vision to match my white build

[stoic island]

lol

[mystic needle]

now that’s pretty cool 😮

[fallen raven]

oh wow

[earnest olive]

the only models that i think really look bad are the evga ones

[fallen raven]

basically every pc is sexy

expect for mine ;C

[fallen raven]

LOL!

[earnest olive]

evga decided to give their 3080s clown lips for some reason

[mystic needle]

hansum

[fallen raven]

one hansum gpu

[earnest olive]

his name is billy

[fallen raven]

wich one do u guys prefer Radeon Software or Nivida Software

[earnest olive]

radeon software is actually pretty neat

[fallen raven]

his billy his silly...

[earnest olive]

i literally never use geforce experience

[fallen raven]

😄 i use that one 😄 😄 :D: D: :D: D: D 😄 :D:D : D: D: D:D : D:D

[earnest olive]

but i use msi afterburner for overclocking nvidia cards

[fallen raven]

is overclocking good ur card?

[earnest olive]

i'm doing a build with a 5600XT for a customer either later today or tomorrow

nah 3080s can barely overclock

i undervolted it

[fallen raven]

i got 570

is that good?

[earnest olive]

RX 570?

@wheat coral

i had an RX 570 for a while too

floppa is the god of overclocking RX 570

[fallen raven]

yea i mean Radeon

[fallen raven]

if i overclock will i break my pc?

[earnest olive]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14284641 this was my RX 570

only if you don't know what you're doing

[fallen raven]

what does it do?

[earnest olive]

more performance

[mystic needle]

so basically in terms of performance, the same model should work the same right? disregarding cooling

[earnest olive]

there's a little bit of variance

not significant

[fallen raven]

bye im overclocking i will update u @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

cooling and noise are the biggest differences

[mystic needle]

ooooo

[earnest olive]

i'm happy with mine

it's my favorite in terms of looks

and has very good cooling while remaining quiet

worth the slight price premium

[mystic needle]

which did you get?

[wheat coral]

WEAK

Dw i still love you

4300 gpu score smh

Your mem was ass

The clock could def go higher with some bios level tweak

Also if i had faster ram and cpu 4700 or 4800 is def possible

[desert gulch]

Cringe still

I bet my 5700xt is still faster undervolted smh

[wispy oar]

i dont know much about pc's but i think i have a good pc i have a b450 tomahawk 24 gb of ddr4 ram, a 1660 ti and a amd ryzen 5 2400g but i cant run some games on high fps, whats my problem?

[desert gulch]

What games?

[wispy oar]

i mainly play cod and run it at 60 fps or lower

[desert gulch]

Highest settings?

[wispy oar]

lowest

[desert gulch]

Hmm

[little osprey]

cpu.

[desert gulch]

Update drivers first

[wispy oar]

144 hz monitor

i updated drivers

[little osprey]

2400g is a 4 cores CPUs

[wispy oar]

is that bad?

[desert gulch]

It shouldn't run 60 fps on low

[little osprey]

on today stardands?

yes.

[desert gulch]

Are you running off gpu or integrated gpu?

[wispy oar]

gpu

[desert gulch]

I think he's running off igpu

You sure?

[wispy oar]

i mean im pretty sure i am ive been playing with thic gpu for over a year now i can run higher graphics on games just not at high fps

[little osprey]

the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu i guess

since it's a quad core and zen+

no HT

[wispy oar]

so i should upgrade my cpu next?

[little osprey]

absolutely.

[wispy oar]

alright

thank you so much

[little osprey]

so yeah

okay i looked up and yeah
it's a cpu bottleneck it seems

[wispy oar]

any reccomendations? i dont have a ginormous budget anything under 300$ us

[little osprey]

3600/2600x

but...amd cpus prices are really bad rn

unless you got to a micro center and find it on msrp price or below it.

[mortal kraken]

is this where i can post a link to a pcpartpicker thingy so people can see it

[little osprey]

ye

[mortal kraken]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FRAPPIE/saved/cDynt6

probably sucks but im planning on getting this

[sinful hornet]

really cheap case for that system

[mortal kraken]

well i dont think the case has to be great but i could probably get something better

[sinful hornet]

p360a for the rgb

or the p400a digital

or meshify c for a really nice case

[mortal kraken]

well

[next kestrel]

no fans?

no airflow

[mortal kraken]

any recommended cases under like 80$

[next kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qq848d/cooler-master-masterbox-lite-5-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcw-l5s3-kgnn-05

[sinful hornet]

what

no

[next kestrel]

5$ diff from what he originally had

[dapper jasper]

lancool 215

[sinful hornet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3RJmP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_bk

ok, but no airflow

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZJcRsY/phanteks-eclipse-p360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk

[muted patio]

Leave the front cover off

https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-4000d-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139154

[severe axle]

or just get the airflow variant?

https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139156?Description=4000d airflow&cm_re=4000d_airflow-_-11-139-156-_-Product same price

[muted patio]

OH yeah

Didn't know about that one

[severe axle]

good case 👍

[mortal kraken]

oh

that looks nice

[mossy plaza]

yo does anyone have a 400 dollar pc build?

I'm tryna check one out with my friend since he's tryna get a pc

[blazing aurora]

$400 is a reeeally tight budget

[mossy plaza]

yea ik :/

[blazing aurora]

if you're willing to spend maybe $50-100 more you can get an infinitely better pc

is it 400USD tight?

[mossy plaza]

yea he might be able to do that

we were looking at this budget build

https://techguided.com/best-gaming-pc-under-400-dollars/#:~:text=Conclusion%3A %24400 Will Get You,Level PC for 1080P Gaming&text=This build is capable of,medium or higher settings%2C too.

is that good or should we look a somethin else?

[blazing aurora]

hm

yeah that's alright

maybe try searching for a used prebuilt and swapping out the parts

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/J4V323/entry-level-intel-gaming-build

I also found that

I might have him try and buy that

since prebuilts usually cost a lot even when their used

and I dont want to get him a broken pc

[muted patio]

That's not a bad build

[mossy plaza]

yea

I'm still wondering if he should get that or not tho

since its heavily close to 600 bucks

damn

he just said said that the highest he can go is 450 - 500 bucks

I'm lookin at this now

https://techguided.com/gaming-pc-under-500/

but I'm still a bit confused if that'd actually be good because of the Core - i3

[reef lynx]

i3 10th gen is really good

[muted patio]

I mean

[reef lynx]

You’ll be surprised if you look at benchmarks of it

[muted patio]

Budget is $500 so

can't be picky at that price point

[reef lynx]

It’s a 99$ cpu, and gets the job done

[mossy plaza]

hm

ok

[muted patio]

It'll be fine

[mossy plaza]

so should i go with that build?

[reef lynx]

check i3 10100 benchmarks if you want to see the performance of the chip

[reef lynx]

hold on I’m checking the list

[mossy plaza]

ok

[reef lynx]

Yep that seems solid for your friends needs, although this assumes he has a monitor and peripherals already, and you just need the tower

[mossy plaza]

damn

yea he doesn't have that I think xd

lemme see tho

[reef lynx]

So if you have all the peripherals and a monitor, go for it

because you’ll essentially add those peripherals and monitor to the price point if he doesn’t have any already

[mossy plaza]

hm gotcha

mhm

if he doesn't have them I mean the most I can give him is my double clicking razer mouse xd

[reef lynx]

lmao

gamer gear

[mossy plaza]

I dont have a spare keyboard which sucks

I bought the mouse around a year ago when I was still workin with a laptop

the keyboard and monitor still work like a charm B)

I just switched out my mouse for a wireless one

it was supposed to be quiet but nope

its louder then my old one

[reef lynx]

oof

so does your friend have a monitor? because if not you might have to spend 700$ total for monitor, peripherals, and a pc

[mossy plaza]

YES

he said he has a mouse

and his neighbor is gettin him a keyboard

meaning I just need to find a hella cheap monitor

[reef lynx]

oh nice

you can look for any 60hz 1080p one, although shipping may suck depending on where you are

alternatively you can buy it from a physical store if you have that near you

[mossy plaza]

mhm

bestbuy is expensive tho

I bought my monitor there for 150 bucks

I'm gonna try to get him it least a 100 dollar monitor

even if its old and ugly xd

since as long as he can see thats all that counts

yooo

hes gonna see everything on this

https://www.newegg.com/p/0JC-00AW-001U4

dang

I had to down grade a bit

thats the build I'm workin on for him

I might switch the gpu

yea lemme try that

[little osprey]

dont buy windows full price

you can get a key off of ebay for like 5 dollars

[analog pulsar]

hey

[abstract quest]

Anyone know if I should buy an intel or amd cpu?

[waxen swallow]

needing help with new ram

[steep wedge]

depends

[analog pulsar]

depends what you are doing'

[analog pulsar]

yes

[fast dust]

@mossy plaza why

[steep wedge]

what do you want to do on ur pc?

[mossy plaza]

?

[steep wedge]

for gaming I would say both are good

[fast dust]

Your list

[steep wedge]

but you get best bang for buck with AMD

[abstract quest]

For gaming only and I’ll be using it for uni with some softwares for engineering but it won’t be editing or content curation

[mossy plaza]

yes?

[fast dust]

It’s uh

[abstract quest]

Creation*

[mossy plaza]

he's on a budget..