building-and-recc-chat

[quick shore]

right before the 41, theres an event log, DistributedCOM, and service control managers

[muted patio]

Service control manager. Ignore DCOM

[quick shore]

ight i got two of those

a 7030 7023

[muted patio]

Need the info in the General tab. Should be a stop code and file name.

Like, 0xc000005 file name nVidia.sys or something

[hushed pumice]

Im not sure. It should

[quick shore]

ight i got here a 0x8080000000000000

[muted patio]

That's a DCOM error

Ignore those

[quick shore]

i found that code in the service control manager tho

[little osprey]

test the igpu and see if it does output video

[muted patio]

Driver name?

[hushed pumice]

Ok. How do you test the gpu?

[quick shore]

where would I find the driver name

[little osprey]

connect the hdmi cable fromthe gpu to the mobo

it should output video and make sure to install the drivers for the gpu aswell

[muted patio]

@quick shore Chck this guide for how to filter things. Except, don't check the Warning box. This will narrow it down to relevant events

https://bitfuse.tech/how-to-check-what-caused-blue-screen-bsod-windows/

My PC hasn't BSOD in a long while else I'd post a pic of an event I'm looking for

[quick shore]

where should I be looking at rn

[muted patio]

Hmmmm

NOt much there

Check the Event Log I guess?

[quick shore]

so im looking at the event log that was loged right after the 41

logged*

[muted patio]

Needs to be right before

6008

None

[quick shore]

ight im looking at that one

[muted patio]

Click on it

screen shot it

General tab

[quick shore]

wilco

[muted patio]

pfff

That's useless

Details tab?

[muted patio]

Eh

WHEA-LOGGER

[muted patio]

ayyy

details tab

[muted patio]

CPU, Motherboard and BIOS version?

[quick shore]

ive a ryzen 5 3600, wit a brand new b550m ds3h and its got F2 bios

[sinful hornet]

Hmm yes f2 bios

[quick shore]

and the pc just reset itself

[muted patio]

Highly recommend a BIOS update to F11o

[quick shore]

would that solve the issue

[muted patio]

Potentially, yes

[quick shore]

ight bros lets a go

Spamming delete rn

we updating

[nimble sinew]

Hey bros!

Anyone need any build recommendations?

I have created the ultimate $500 build.

[muted patio]

What are you voluntolding me for?

[nimble sinew]

Oh

uhhhh

Oh gosh.

That was scary.

[muted patio]

It was a joke

I saw that

[nimble sinew]

XD

Btw, you got any suggestions for cheap 850w psus?

[muted patio]

NO such thing

If you ever have a PSU question

Check the pinned messages, there's a great one from HEI with a PSU TIer list

[quick shore]

Ight bros it’s done updating

[muted patio]

I'd pick an A/B tier and go shopping

XMP your ram?

[nimble sinew]

oh dang.

[quick shore]

ye xmp

[muted patio]

k

[nimble sinew]

I still haven't XMPed my RAM.

[muted patio]

but why?

[nimble sinew]

Because I thought I did, but then I forgot I changed sticks a year ago and forgot to do it again until literally today.

I am not a smart man 😦

I can't wait to slap these sticks into a new MOBO though!

Thank you for pointing out the PSU tier list btw.

[muted patio]

YW

Super handy

[ripe wedge]

whats your parts? @nimble sinew

[idle hawk]

@ripe wedge

i got it

it will be coming soon

[ripe wedge]

nice the z73?

[idle hawk]

yes sir

[hushed pumice]

Thank you. I will try this when I get home from work.

[ripe wedge]

I saw it on amazon yesterday for like $280

[idle hawk]

are you using the regular fans or did you change em

i only lost 50$ but i did get it from amazon

[ripe wedge]

using coolermaster rgb fans

[idle hawk]

ok

[ripe wedge]

I might switchback to the nzxt fans tho cuz they cool better I think

[idle hawk]

2k rpm argb fans?

[ripe wedge]

they are MF120R but they arnt extremely great

[idle hawk]

yep we have the same fans i think

mines are 2k rpm

i had to switch back to my old triple rad aio

also cooler master lol

[balmy patio]

joker yk what to do

[idle hawk]

i will

EXECUTE ORDER 66

i got it new on amazon and sacrificed 50$ in total

[balmy patio]

nah the other thing

yk

[idle hawk]

oh ik

[idle hawk]

im just saying

lmaoo

in time

[balmy patio]

that too 😈🤏

[idle hawk]

lmao

i always tell my friends when i put my mind to something i make it happen

i did one of the most sketchiest deals ever

i traded a FE 3060 ti for a evga ftw ultra 3080

from facebooks marketplace

[balmy patio]

lmao facebook marketplace is sooo sketchy yet so handy when trying to find something

[idle hawk]

i met the guy a hour and a half away

at best buy

[junior sky]

@narrow rose i need alternatives for the NH-U12S

[idle hawk]

we brought 2 gold bars into best buy

[narrow rose]

@junior sky too big?

[idle hawk]

a workers jaw dropped when he saw the cards

[junior sky]

no the shipping is terrible

[narrow rose]

from all sites that have it?

amazon?

[junior sky]

lemme check amazon

[balmy patio]

lmaooo imagine some kid seeing yall

[idle hawk]

all shipping will extended past Christmas due to weather and covid

at least in the east coast

[idle hawk]

the worker was the kid

[junior sky]

oh wait

nvm

its like 19th to the 28th

which is reasonable enough

my case on the other hand

[nimble sinew]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2hnM4d

[idle hawk]

he was foaming at the mouth when he saw the 3080 and then he saw the 3060 ti

[nimble sinew]

but my 850w is a backorder

[idle hawk]

also @balmy patio i got another FE 3060 ti coming aswell as my ventus 3060 ti

[balmy patio]

3060ti man has spoken

[idle hawk]

my buddy gave me his after i gave him the 3080

[balmy patio]

niceee

what you gonna do with them?

open ur packages?

[idle hawk]

peel off every capacitor on each of the boards one by one

MUAHAHAHAHA

gpu torture

[balmy patio]

teaching lessons at its finest

if it don't perform how i want it too

it's going into the mining rig

[idle hawk]

you think im made of money

i couldve gotten a 3070 today

[balmy patio]

yes, you are money man

[idle hawk]

give me monies

im the new make a wish

[balmy patio]

hold up

there free nitro

[idle hawk]

lmao

[balmy patio]

you're welcome moni man

[idle hawk]

how long did that take u to draw

[balmy patio]

some questions are not meant to be asked or answered

but i will tell you either way

3 mins

[idle hawk]

thought it was 15 min

lol a masterpiece

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[balmy patio]

ikr

[quick shore]

the pc just reset again 😦

[hasty birch]

Posted this in there wrong chat! Hell there, hoping I can find someone to help with general advice. I know my rebuild sucks and I don't have a lot of money. I'm trying to figure out what RAM I need for my Dell workstation T5400? I'm not a total n00b, but not a computer person and just trying to do an upgrade on a budget so I can stream/edit some video stuff. I remember when I bought it that I think I was told I need a specific type of RAM? I think it's DDR2, but has to be something else too?

[ripe wedge]

lol I have to do this now

[balmy patio]

haha

[little osprey]

how much ram does it have rn?

[hasty birch]

12 GB. I'm hoping it's doable/affordable to bring it up to 32GB.

[boreal valley]

Patriot PVS416G440C9K + mag x570 tomahawk, good match or nah?

[little osprey]

plus that a old desktop
ddr2 still
outdated at this point

[hasty birch]

I know, I can't upgrade much, but was hoping to get something cheap cause it is old and atleast max out what I do have

[little osprey]

you can upgrade to 16gb of ram i guess

[balmy patio]

is this ur system? https://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/products/precn/precision_t5400_au.pdf

[muted patio]

OOF

Those need ECC RAM

Old Xeon systems

[hasty birch]

Yes

[little osprey]

lga771
bigger oof

[hasty birch]

Okay ECC Ram is that like server RAM?

I remember them telling me I could make it 128GB of RAM one day if I wanted so I didn't think 32GB was a big deal?

[muted patio]

I mean

[little osprey]

ECC is a special ram that saves stuff on itself after a shutdown

[muted patio]

Are you using it for it's intended purpose, like CAD?

Or is this just a home PC for doing day to day stuff

[hasty birch]

I'm trying to be some dumb youtube streaming person, lol

[muted patio]

OH

yeah

[hasty birch]

I don't need something insane and what I have is good

but I'm doing this whole upgrade between the PC and a multiroom thing (really not sure these terms)

trying to combine the two with a streaming box and wires all under my floorboards, which are installed and I've got that far and I think it's all going to work, but I need the PC to be stronger because that's what everything runs too

[muted patio]

no, don't spend money on this.

[hasty birch]

so ECC ram? is that like on the product title or will I see it in a description? How do I find that specifically or know it from the non-ECC RAM? and like how much can my PC take? Should I only get like 16GB cards?

[muted patio]

I'm gonna say this right now

[hasty birch]

So far I've spent $30 so I'm not in the hole too much

[muted patio]

A new $500 PC will outperform that thing so much it's not even funny

And if you're looking to do streaming, well, this won't really cut the mustard.

[hasty birch]

Really? But like then the stuff that's not working has to be sitting somewhere for me to buy and use for $20 then?

[muted patio]

have you even used this for streaming yet?

[hasty birch]

I can't stream from my PC to Youtube from OBS studio?

I've done a test and it worked okay?

[abstract haven]

Have a question for a relatively new builder, I have a Asus p8z68-vLX board with an i5, with a Asetek 510lc cooler with a Hybrid GTX 980 ti my question will this fit in a midsize atx case?

[hasty birch]

I mean I don't know fully though

[muted patio]

Are you talking just sitting there with a webcam or gaming and streaming?

[narrow rose]

what os is it running how does it have 12gb????

that thing is a dinosaur

[muted patio]

256 MB SDRAM Quadro card

Like, you fired up OBS and just did a test?

Or an actual stream with a webcam?

and a game?

[quick shore]

aaaaand we got a blue screen

[muted patio]

You know what info to post now

[narrow rose]

are you sure its a Dell workstation T5400?

[quick shore]

I’ll see if I can post it

[narrow rose]

maybe its a T5400 case with something else inside

[quick shore]

that’s even if I can get to my Home Screen without it crashing

[muted patio]

It's gotta be something else inside lol

[quick shore]

could a faulty cpu cause this constant reset

[muted patio]

CPU mark on that thing is less than 2K

[narrow rose]

that thing came in 2 flavors 2gb and 4gb

[muted patio]

Yes, it could

Could also be motherboard

or RAM

[quick shore]

I just got this mobo and ram brand new though

[muted patio]

That means nothing

[quick shore]

Could I even rma this mobo thru amazon without having to send it back

[muted patio]

You can do a Memtest86 on it?

Try that and see what it says

[quick shore]

I tried doin a prime95 test and it reset the pc

[muted patio]

Ok, that's a start

Stock cooler?

[hasty birch]

Here's the setup:

• Internet Modem (direct ethernet feeds PC and Router, does have wireless with 3 security cameras/1 chromebook/2 android phones on the network)
• Wireless Router (direct ethernet feeds the smart TV, PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii - Wifi for router is off)
• PS3/Xbox 360/Wii are all HDMI cables direct to a Sharp Audio 2.1 System with 3 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output
• Sharp Audio Receiver feeds to Stream Box HDMI in and then Stream Box HDMI out to the Smart TV HDMI in
• Stream Box USB 3.0 cable to 30 ft USB 3.0 extension cable direct to PC
• PC receives stream box signal via USB 3.0
• PC uses OBS Studio to stream direct to Re-Stream (Re-Stream streams to Youtube/Twitch/Not sure if anything else yet)

[quick shore]

Yeah

[muted patio]

You have any extra thermal grease or paste?

[narrow rose]

so it cant be a Dell workstation T5400 since usb 3.0 wasnt invented yet lol

[hasty birch]

Sorry it took me a sec to write it all down. So the PC (Dell Workstation 5400) has 12GB of RAM currently and with a test stream has done okay. I was thinking/wondering if upgrading the RAM would be worthwhile?

[quick shore]

Yessir

Arctic mx-4

[muted patio]

No, don't upgrade anything on that old Dell

Wait

[narrow rose]

so no "T"

[hasty birch]

Should I just sell it or trade it or?

[narrow rose]

that makes sense then so it could be from any year

[hasty birch]

I mean it's still a good PC and when I started trying to edit stuff on it, it was working. I don't need some insane powerhouse.

[muted patio]

@quick shore Have you checked CPU temps?

There's a bit difference between T5400 and 5400 LOL

[hasty birch]

Oh yeah I have no clue I thought I could just somehow get more RAM and be atleast a bit better than I am for like $20 to $30? Just buying some kinda old stock that will work?

[muted patio]

If it already has 12 GB

No, don't buy more

If you're console gaming, there's no need

[proven ocean]

@quick shore what ram speed is your mobo rated at and what is your ram speed trying to run at?

[quick shore]

Yeah i have checked the temps

they’re nothing too concerning

[muted patio]

Define "nothing too concerning"

[quick shore]

i got a b550m ds3h and its rated at i believe 3600

[narrow rose]

@hasty birch what os is on it? (operating system)

[proven ocean]

what speed is your ram

[quick shore]

its 3600 but when I enabled it the pc just crashed

[muted patio]

Enabled it in the BIOS using DOCP or XMP?

[quick shore]

rn the idle temps are like 43

xmp

[proven ocean]

try to tone it down to like 3200 and see what happens

[muted patio]

at idle?

[quick shore]

yeah

39-43

[muted patio]

3600x you said?

[quick shore]

nah just normal 3600

[proven ocean]

bcs i had that problem with my previous mobo, i tried to put my ram up to 3200 and i didnt realise my mobo only supported like 2888 or something

[muted patio]

Have you downloaded Ryzen master by chance? It includes drivers for Windows for Ryzen processors.

[quick shore]

i have not yet

[muted patio]

Oh

[hasty birch]

Does this help at all?

[muted patio]

do so

[narrow rose]

@hasty birch I mean if it can run windows 10 somehow it can have 128gb its a xeon just match the speed and timing of the ram thats in there

[muted patio]

now

Oh, Ok

It is indeed a T5400

wow

CPu tab?

[hasty birch]

I'm on Windows 10

[narrow rose]

click memory tab

[hasty birch]

yep two seconds for that tab sorry I'm not the best with this stuff

[muted patio]

all good

[quick shore]

ryzen master installed

[proven ocean]

try gaming a bit

[muted patio]

Now, WIndows Power Profile

use the Ryzen one

[proven ocean]

see if it bluescreens

[quick shore]

i dont have much games installed

[proven ocean]

anything works

[quick shore]

I was instralling overwatch but the pc crashed

[muted patio]

Windows Power Profile

[narrow rose]

I cant believe it runs windows 10

[proven ocean]

anything else installed?

[quick shore]

how do I do the windows power profile

not atm not installed

[muted patio]

Search bar

Power

[proven ocean]

ok

try out a browser game

[muted patio]

Far right, blue text, click Additional power settings

[hasty birch]

Memory and CPU tabs?

[muted patio]

Choose the AMD High Performance profile

SOB, it really is a T5400

I'm honestly amazed

[hasty birch]

iunno lol

[narrow rose]

holy wow

[hasty birch]

I bought it from some nice guys in Ottawa

and asked not to be screwed over

[proven ocean]

is that rare?

[hasty birch]

lol

[narrow rose]

man thats crazy

[muted patio]

Rare? It's old!

[hasty birch]

they said it was good and would do what I want

[muted patio]

2009 PC running windows 10

[proven ocean]

lmao

[quick shore]

https://gyazo.com/8049707c2f03496a6e91f8fb47b69fb3

do i click the high performance

[muted patio]

No

[proven ocean]

well my father had a pc with a athlon which is from 2005 running windows ten just fine

[muted patio]

You installed AMD Ryzen Master?

[quick shore]

yeah

[muted patio]

reboot

for the profile to show

[narrow rose]

just film you running windows 10 on that and upload it to youtube

[muted patio]

Instant star LOL!

[hasty birch]

I think I paid like $1800 in 2016 for it with some monitors, keyboard, mouse and cables and some whatever speakers?

Lol I'm going to not talk about what I'm going to talk about here, but could someone please help me with a basic RAM upgrade? I know it's kinda crappy/weird

[muted patio]

No

Don't spend any money on that

if it has 12 GB already

There is no need

[hasty birch]

it can't go up to 16GB at all if I found a cheap 4GB something?

[muted patio]

I mean, it's not worth the $20 you'd spend on it

[hasty birch]

I see guys selling stuff for $5 and $10 around me all the time I just don't know if it'll work?

like literally $5

[muted patio]

That processor is so old, it honestly won't help

[proven ocean]

what socket is the t5400 anyways

[muted patio]

LGA771

[hasty birch]

so what do I do? Go to some PC shop nearby and try to trade it al together?

[muted patio]

Use it as is

[quick shore]

just reboot pc and the profile still aint there

[muted patio]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

[proven ocean]

so if he were to even upgrade cpu he would need a new mobo too

[quick shore]

i am at the right place tho right

[hasty birch]

but don't upgrade it even if it could cost $5

[proven ocean]

i feel bad

[hasty birch]

okay

[narrow rose]

Kingston Ddr2 Sdram 16gb Dimm 333 Mhz Ecc

something like this would help but its going to be expensive

[muted patio]

it already has 12 GB of ram though

[hasty birch]

Thank you, I am fairly sure I have seen that in piles for as little as $1 from some people around me. Helps. Thanks. My system sucks.

[narrow rose]

@hasty birch ECC is the key

[muted patio]

I doubt you've seen ECC ram

Most likely plain DDR2

[narrow rose]

server ram

[quick shore]

just reboot the pc and the profile aint there

[muted patio]

Yeah

That's....not right

This program, right? https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

[narrow rose]

@hasty birch it is really neat it surprised me and I am glad to have seen it

[quick shore]

yeah

https://gyazo.com/436d241f686fd10fec40bb6cd432ef8b

[muted patio]

All of your motherboard drivers are installed?

[narrow rose]

@hasty birch think we could get a pic of the inside?

[muted patio]

Not just the generic Windows one?

[quick shore]

define motherboard drivers

such as realtek audio drivers?

[muted patio]

It would be worth grabbing these too and making sure they're installed. https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b550

[hasty birch]

Thanks again. I appreciate your direction, diplomacy and kindness. I'll take a pic inside when I open it up in a week and try to get back to you. I have to put more HDD in it too, which I'm sure I'm dumb about to or wrong in some way. Ciao for now and Merry Christmas.

[muted patio]

No, the HDD you can use in another machine

[quick shore]

should i install both raid drivers

[muted patio]

Nah, just chipset

[narrow rose]

I mean that thing technically released in 2006 I cant believe it is running windows 10 i am just in awe

@hasty birch later

[quick shore]

if this solves my issue I owe you my life @muted patio

this pc has been causing me such a headache for so long now

[muted patio]

Fingers crossed

[quick shore]

ight bros we're restarting

[muted patio]

Just odd that the power profile didn't show up after Ryzen master installed

makes me think you're missing a driver or two

[quick shore]

ight bros

its been rebooted

amd high performance is selected

now for the moment of truth

[muted patio]

Ah

it showed up

You were missing chipset drivers

[quick shore]

I shall play roblox and wreck some unsuspecting kids on some fps

they wont even see me coming

[narrow rose]

I saved those cpuz shots so I can blow other peoples minds

[muted patio]

Save the part about a couple seconds to switch CPU-Z tabs too

[zealous edge]

Quick question

My nzxt cam is saying that RGB fusion is trying to commuicate with my device

the x53 cpu cooler

and It says close the program if you are having problems

If its working fine I dont need to do anything right?

[quick shore]

ight bros we shall game cs source real quick

no crash reported

but kinda high ping so time to install ping master

[little osprey]

btw, what gpu you got?

[quick shore]

or this software that did some registry stuff

i forgot

who me?

[little osprey]

yes

[quick shore]

a 1070

it aint much

but it does

[little osprey]

nice.

it's a great card.

[zealous edge]

5700xt

🙂

[quick shore]

ive been waiting for a 3070 but Im convinced they dont exist

[little osprey]

lol

[quick shore]

same with a ryzen 5 5600

[little osprey]

atleast the 1070 should be serve you well for few years

[quick shore]

it should but that 3070 is so attractive tho

[little osprey]

till the next gen comes around the corner

[quick shore]

that price to performance is insane

[little osprey]

it's a great card but hard to get
due to christmas
scalper
corona and supply chain

[quick shore]

the unfortunate truth

[little osprey]

it should be way easier to get it in like
march or april

[quick shore]

when I’m nearing the end of my college semester lol

that’s like finals week I think lmao

But the very idea of a 3070/5600 combo????

[muted patio]

3070/5900 combo. MMMMMMMMMMMMM

[quick shore]

[brave swift]

how about a 6700xt tho

[muted patio]

No thank you

[brave swift]

with the 5600

[quick shore]

here’s hoping they’ll manifest into existence

[brave swift]

honestly rdna 2 cards seem pretty nice

[muted patio]

Oh, the card itself is nice

AMD drivers and software? not so much

[brave swift]

certainly competing with nvidia on value

[little osprey]

rdna 2 is nice
feature wise? meh.

[brave swift]

I had a terrible experience with nvidia drivers so idk

[muted patio]

I have a hard time recommending AMD cards due to their drivers and software.

[quick shore]

im not caught up on amd gpu lore

[muted patio]

Unfortunately it's not lore

Also, their promises on an NVENC competitor fell very far short

[quick shore]

So I don’t really know what they doing over there

I’m more caught up on ryzen

[brave swift]

hmm that's a good point

[muted patio]

here's my rule of thumb

[brave swift]

at the same time if you have an r9 nvenc isn't an issue

[muted patio]

So I'm not a shill

If you aren't going to stream or do anything but game, go AMD

If you're going to stream and do other things like video encode or photos, go nVidia

[little osprey]

amd gpus are uh...alright if you going to game and don't care about dlss and nvidia features

[brave swift]

hmm

[pale dust]

they're both about par really

but amd aib prices

are really jacked

[quick shore]

NOOOOOOO

[pale dust]

like really high

[brave swift]

also, is there any chance of x370 support for zen3?

[pale dust]

nope

[muted patio]

No

[quick shore]

my pc just reset itself

[brave swift]

f

[pale dust]

x470 isnt even happening

[little osprey]

on pair in perfomance? probally.

[pale dust]

so

wait mb

x470 is

[quick shore]

pain

[pale dust]

not x370 though

[brave swift]

either way, 3700x or 5600?

or whatever zen3 r5 is

[pale dust]

depends on what you can get

[brave swift]

I can't keep up with the numbering

[pale dust]

i got the 5600x

[quick shore]

and it just reset again

[pale dust]

its faster for single core

soo

[muted patio]

Memtest time

[quick shore]

pain

[muted patio]

Download it and run it

[pale dust]

and its a little slower in multicore

but im not a professional so that isnt

costing me much

i feel like the 5600x is better for most people but theres a huge asterisk there

because if you need one really bad

5600x is fooked

[muted patio]

I mean, my 3700x is a beast with PBO

[pale dust]

in terms of stoc

3700x is a great cpu still

[quick shore]

bro I can’t even get to my desktop without it crashing

[little osprey]

oof

[pale dust]

@quick shore psu maybe?

[muted patio]

Remove all ram except one stick

[brave swift]

hmm

[muted patio]

try again

[pale dust]

what cpu do you have

[quick shore]

I’m running on one stick 💀

[pale dust]

if its an intel maybe try running it off igpu

[muted patio]

Oh

[quick shore]

I’ve a 3600

[muted patio]

well

[pale dust]

no dice there then

[muted patio]

wait, I thought you said 5600?

[brave swift]

so if I typically heavily multitask, 3700x?

[quick shore]

nah I said I want a 5609

[little osprey]

the psu would just shut down itself out of nowhere if it was the psu

[quick shore]

5600*

[muted patio]

fack

New build though you said yeah?

[quick shore]

why can’t I have a normal pc

[little osprey]

same

[quick shore]

in the near future when a 5600 is out and about

and isn’t a mythical being

[muted patio]

I mean, you could try reseating the CPU and heatsink. Have you paid attention to CPU temps right before crash?

[quick shore]

and when I’m not broke af 💀💀

[pale dust]

if you dont plan to game at all

[muted patio]

wait

[pale dust]

the 5600x is about 5% slower in multicore

but 17 to 20% in single core

so

[quick shore]

I can’t look at them temps bcs pc just resets

[muted patio]

I game the CRAP out of my 3700x and it's a beast

[little osprey]

@quick shore btw does it crash like
BSOD or just dies and reboot?

[brave swift]

hmm

[muted patio]

Found a BSOD related to a processor issue

[pale dust]

nothing wrong with the 3700x, you already have one

[quick shore]

so it crashes and reboots for a bit

[zealous edge]

My nzxt cam is saying that RGB fusion is trying to commuicate with my device
the x53 cpu cooler
and It says close the program if you are having problems
If its working fine I dont need to do anything right?

[quick shore]

and then it bsod after 3 resets

[pale dust]

but if he has a choice then a 5600x may be better

[brave swift]

is 5600 worth getting an x570 though?

I have an x370 atm

[pale dust]

good point

go for a 3700x then

[zealous edge]

I uninstalled rgb fusion

[brave swift]

fair enough

[zealous edge]

Still said the same thing

[brave swift]

thanks

[pale dust]

ye

[zealous edge]

but it seems to be working fine

[muted patio]

Compared to a 5600x, I'd call them even TBH

[zealous edge]

I think its just a warning

[muted patio]

In synthetic benchmarks, the 3700x is a tad faster

[zealous edge]

and not something that I have to change...

[muted patio]

but only a couple hundred points

[pale dust]

5600x single core is quite a bit faster no

[quick shore]

Ight we got them temps pulled up I was able to make it to me Home Screen

[muted patio]

Checking

[little osprey]

is it like...just dies out of nowhere? and boots up after dying? could be a psu related issue aswell for that
for bsod...idk

[muted patio]

No

Yes

Sorry

[clever eagle]

what screws do i need to screw in the motherboard. case is carbide omega spec

[muted patio]

It is faster in single core

But if they are a heavy multitasker, they're dead even

[zealous edge]

Depends...

[pale dust]

what does the bsod say?

any error code?

[quick shore]

yeah it just dies out of nowhere and boots up

[zealous edge]

There are screws that come with the case

[muted patio]

Checked event viewer

[quick shore]

Like I was playing cs and it just died and booted up again

[muted patio]

There's literally nothing

[clever eagle]

which one

8 of some screw and 1 standoff

which 8 screws

mbd

[quick shore]

In event viewer I am getting allot of processor core errors

[little osprey]

@quick shore what is your psu model? i had a psu that would do that aswell

[clever eagle]

?

[muted patio]

OOF

[quick shore]

I believe I’ve a Corsair 550w

[muted patio]

Pull and reseat your processor

[little osprey]

cx 550w?

[muted patio]

maybe it's not in all the way?

[quick shore]

I believe so

[little osprey]

ah alright

[quick shore]

Hmmm that does sound like an idea

Nah it’s a vs550

[muted patio]

At this point

[brave swift]

should say kernel something and something about the last shutdown not being a proper one or smth

[muted patio]

It's either that or RMA the processor

kernel Power doesn't say anything other than it was an unscheduled shut down

[brave swift]

yeah

[muted patio]

Which doesn't help

[brave swift]

is it supposed to show more?

[urban trellis]

@clever eagle the very bottom one is a standoff

[muted patio]

however, there are processor core errors

Kernel Power events are pretty useless

[clever eagle]

what do i use to screw in motherboard, its the mbd screws rihgt?

[brave swift]

hmm

[muted patio]

There's no information other than HEY! I shutdown!

[brave swift]

my event viewer is legit just

[clever eagle]

yes

[little osprey]

[brave swift]

is there something else supposed to be showing in event viewer?

[quick shore]

it is looking like an rma

[brave swift]

other than kernel power

[urban trellis]

@clever eagle yes the MBD screws

[muted patio]

typically, yes

[quick shore]

I think I’ve got a spare ryzen 3 2200g that I can throw in for a temporary pc game

[muted patio]

There's an application error or something else BEFORE the kernel power that caused the shutdown

[quick shore]

Since ima have to take out the CPU anyway to look at the serial no

[muted patio]

There ya go. If the same issues with the 2200G you'll know it's the board

[little osprey]

@quick shore rma or take it to a repair shop to test your pc on another cpu

[muted patio]

If no issues, it's the CPU

[quick shore]

I tried taking it to a repair shop and he only told me it was a mobo/ram issue

and that was before I bought the new mobo

[muted patio]

Yeah

[little osprey]

uh

[muted patio]

If you have a spare CPU

Pop it in and test

[quick shore]

that’s honestly sounding like a problem for tomorrow’s me

It’s late and I’m kinda tired lol

[muted patio]

Take you 5 minutes

XD

[quick shore]

turns out I do not have a spare r3

[urban trellis]

Is there gonna be a update for B450 and X470 so they can support ryzen 5000?

[quick shore]

I shall in the meantime beg the amd Twitter account for a new one 💀💀

if I tell em my story I think I can get one 😤

[zealous edge]

@muted patio

My nzxt cam is saying that RGB fusion is trying to commuicate with my device
the x53 cpu cooler
and It says close the program if you are having problems
If its working fine I dont need to do anything right?

[muted patio]

@urban trellis already has been

I don't know, I have no experience with that software or RGB

[urban trellis]

Oh ok

[zealous edge]

kk

[quick shore]

at least I have this Taco Bell series X to keep my company lol

[muted patio]

Should be a BIOS update for your motherboard

I don't run RGB stuff, sorry

[zealous edge]

dw

[urban trellis]

So ryzen 5000 supports B450 rn?

[brave swift]

what should I see in event viewer in the event of a bsod?

[quick shore]

good question

[muted patio]

Yes, B450 supports Ryzen 5000 right now

[urban trellis]

Oh ok

[quick shore]

I’ve been dealing with that all day @brave swift

[brave swift]

all I'm seeing is kernel power

[urban trellis]

What should I get then B450 or a B550 for 50 dollars more?

[brave swift]

but I've only seen a single kernel power in my event viewer

which has logs for at least 4 days

but I've bluescreened several times

[brave swift]

depends

what are you after?

[quick shore]

what I would do is look at the events that lead up to the bsod and right after

[urban trellis]

Acctually nvm I kinda need B550

[quick shore]

Mainly the critical and error

[urban trellis]

Cuz I need PCIE gen 4

[brave swift]

the only critical I see is kernel power

but I see a single one of those

[quick shore]

That’s what vintage racer told me to do

[brave swift]

for my second most recent bsod

[quick shore]

what do any of the errors say

[brave swift]

out of my 9-10 ish in the past few days

all the errors are the same

well

half

The wuauserv service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

happens exactly every 2 minutes

The server {E60687F7-01A1-40AA-86AC-DB1CBF673334} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout.

also happens every 2 minutes

[urban trellis]

Wait

Where is this happening

[brave swift]

event viewer

[urban trellis]

Idk then

[brave swift]

wait, my mistake

there are 3 kernel power criticals

but I've still bluescreened more than 3 times in the past 4 days

[urban trellis]

Wait what caused this do u know?

[brave swift]

erm

no clue

still trying to figure it out

I just repaired system files a few days ago

[urban trellis]

Oh

[stoic island]

Windows do be weird

[urban trellis]

Facts

Linux is the future

[muted patio]

DCOM errors can be ignored

[brave swift]

oh ok

[quick shore]

It’s times like this where I question my decision to be a pc gamer

[viscid violet]

@glass crane Just saw your PC setup and was wondering where you got your desk? That design would fit my room well.

[shell radish]

im looking to make a budget pc and am not to sure what im doing can i get some pointers

[little osprey]

what's your budget and what do you want to do with it

[shell radish]

sub 1000

i dont want to go over 800 but i will if i have to

[glass crane]

Honestly, I just found it for free on Craigslist.

I'm planning on using money my family will give me on Christmas to buy a new desk.

[viscid violet]

Damn lol. I'm trying to find a solid corner desk. I've got limited space right now.

[glass crane]

This is a very comfortable desk. There are shelves underneath it too with plenty of space to store whatever.

[ripe wedge]

sorry I replied so much later, but that psu in your build is good. I have the normal version of the rm850x. im guessing you are waiting until you can get your hands on a 3080 or something?

[agile folio]

can anyone help me with my my monitor shows no display when plugged into pc

i just built it today

[little osprey]

Now- I made this just to see what pcpp would use when I just clicked Add from filter
This is NOT my build nor will it ever- unless some parts are actually good-

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MtVpz7

Give opinions

[nimble sinew]

Yeah.

It's been a long wait

[little osprey]

Lmao yes almost 200 for rgb fans

😂😂

[eager escarp]

o.o

[warm swift]

@earnest olive there might be a slight problem with the case i chose

[earnest olive]

hm?

[warm swift]

basically someone got the corsair case im getting the 220t, and got the corsair 240mm cooler, and it didnt fit on top, and i was thinking of getting the 280mm...

but i think the one that didnt fit the new one the corsair h100i elite capellix

@earnest olive what if i could get my hands on the cooler master td500 mesh, i should definitely get it?

[earnest olive]

I have a 360mm rad top mounted in mine

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/v9vWGX

I updated it today

[little osprey]

what cases have support for 420mm rads

[warm swift]

i was thinking of, getting that case if i could, then get the 360mm cosair cooler, put it on top, ill give the non rgb fans to my dad, because he said he wants new fans and he doesnt care about that rgb stuff, and ill give them cooler master fans from the td500 mesh, to my brother, since hes also getting a cooler master case the h500 one, and then ill buy rgb fans and its all good right?

[earnest olive]

sure

[warm swift]

you dont like the idea?

[earnest olive]

I mean it works

[warm swift]

but?

[earnest olive]

but nothing

it works

[warm swift]

alright

btw does that 360mm cooler come in contact with the rams, or is it perfect?

or what

[earnest olive]

44mm ram clearance

my ram is like 42mm I think

[warm swift]

how do i know what mm is my rams/

[warm swift]

btw i changed the ssd's, can i tell you what i changed them to?

[earnest olive]

just google ram clearance

[warm swift]

i will but can i tell you about the new ssd i picked?

[earnest olive]

sure

[warm swift]

basically i changed the samsung 860 evo 2tb sata and the samsung 970 evo plus 250gb nvme to samsung 970 evo plus 2tb nvme, ill use that 2tb, to have all my games and programs and windows, and i currently have a 2tb harddrive that ill reuse to put like videos/photos, ik 2tb harddrive is overkill for videos and photos, but i dont wanna throw it away so yeah

[earnest olive]

sounds fine

[warm swift]

is it better?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[warm swift]

so how did you find out about the ram clearance, because i searched it and cant find anything

[earnest olive]

mine says 42mm

[warm swift]

where?

[earnest olive]

I just googled it and it said 42mm

[warm swift]

what did you type

[stiff patio]

Join call for help

[tight sorrel]

Thermaltake Core X9 can support 3 420mm rads

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147323?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-TechPowerUp&AFFID=3647627&AFFNAME=TechPowerUp&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpowerup.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=3647627&ranSiteID=KolujHFK2dc-_1NGyE7Tyk0Oda3eW_FgRA#

also, this

[clever eagle]

any tips for cable managing my pc

[hollow grail]

manage them

[green wren]

Reusable zip ties.

[little osprey]

i have a problem so i built my pc and when it was time to start it none of the fans turned on only the motherboard light turned on i need help

[urban trellis]

@little osprey do you have RGB fans

[little osprey]

i have a rbg power supply

[urban trellis]

Oh none of the fans on the psu and the cpu fans didn't turn on?

[little osprey]

no

no fans turned on

just the motherboard light

[urban trellis]

The motherboard light didn't turn on

[little osprey]

it did

that’s the only thing that gets power

[urban trellis]

So what is t turning on

Isnt

@little osprey what isn't getting power

Or turning on

[little osprey]

the fans

the power supply

basically everything

[urban trellis]

So the motherboard light turns on but the psu doesnt

[little osprey]

yea

[urban trellis]

Then the psu is on

The fan probably doesn work

[glass crane]

Is everything plugged in?

[still roost]

fleshlight911#1742 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[urban trellis]

Double check if everything is

[little osprey]

yea

[urban trellis]

Then try booting your pc up and check in the bios what is plugged in

[hollow grail]

inb4 thermaltake psu

[spice comet]

Just got my 3060ti

[balmy patio]

looks nice

[hollow grail]

stomp on it

[little osprey]

crush it

[wanton cliff]

detroit smash it

[blazing aurora]

should i buy a mobo with wifi and bluetooth included, or buy the wifi adapter and bluetooth adapter separately

[wanton cliff]

depends

[hollow grail]

u should not use wifi or bluetooth

[wanton cliff]

wires

wires good

[little osprey]

just get a card with both lol

[blazing aurora]

you mean a mobo? @little osprey

[wanton cliff]

if you need wifi or bluetooth, get a PCIe card for both

[little osprey]

no no

[blazing aurora]

oh ok

[little osprey]

pcie card

[hollow grail]

get a pcie card with an intel module on it

[blazing aurora]

where can i find one

[hollow grail]

amazon.com

[wanton cliff]

le interwebs

[little osprey]

on a virtual store or physical

[blazing aurora]

i should clarify

[wanton cliff]

just look up 'Bluetooth card' on amazon or something

[blazing aurora]

what's a good one i should buy

[wanton cliff]

im pretty sure all of us use ethernet so we dont know

[hollow grail]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y2MYK4N/

any one with an intel chipset

lol

[little osprey]

[balmy patio]

just buy a long snakey boi smh

[wanton cliff]

cheaper and more stable

and faster usually

unless you want to use virtual desktop with the quest 2 or something without wires

cause you need WiFi 6 for that

[blazing aurora]

hm

i already have a bluetooth usb adapter

[wanton cliff]

should work well enough

a PCIe card will always be faster tho

why do you need bluetooth? There might be better alternatives

[hollow grail]

also @wanton cliff hi babe hyd

[wanton cliff]

saaaaaah, @hollow grail

[blazing aurora]

i have bluetooth earbuds

[hollow grail]

owo

audio latency go brrrr

[blazing aurora]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EDOG8NC/ref= <-- used like new for 16.99

^wifi adapter

[wanton cliff]

Razer Hammerheads are pretty good on latency

[hollow grail]

1/3 the speed and usb

good luck getting any reliable signal off of that

[blazing aurora]

so should i return my usb bluetooth adapter and get the pcie thing you posted

[hollow grail]

or one like it

i just grabbed a quice one off amazon

[blazing aurora]

where does it go in the pc

[hollow grail]

pcie slot

[blazing aurora]

gotcha

would it be cheaper/better to buy a reeeeeeally long ethernet cord

[hollow grail]

better yes

cheaper, depends on how youre running it

[blazing aurora]

wym?

[stoic island]

long wire expensive

route it nicely and wired doesn't need to be as long

[blazing aurora]

@stoic island thanks, are there any specific attributes I should look out for

like speed or cable type

[stoic island]

wheee dif cat protocols

[wanton cliff]

cat 5e minimum should be good, no?

I dont know much about networking

[blazing aurora]

I just saw that cat6 is optimal

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WD017GQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_CVm3Fb1XCKQFY

Is that good?

[stoic island]

prob

[arctic jungle]

buy from home depot

[blazing aurora]

why

[arctic jungle]

home depot best for ethernet cables

[blazing aurora]

oh okay

[arctic jungle]

good quality

[blazing aurora]

thanks for the heads up

[arctic jungle]

for less price

[blazing aurora]

cat6 right?

[normal osprey]

Anyone tryna help ya boy build a pc

[arctic jungle]

better then the generic one I bought for the same price from amazon

[arctic jungle]

sure

[normal osprey]

Dms?

[arctic jungle]

nah

#building-and-recc-chat

this place

[normal osprey]

Ight i need something with wifi built in

Price range 1000-1500

[arctic jungle]

mm

open a pcpp

[normal osprey]

Runnin 144hz at max

[arctic jungle]

do 5600x + 3070

[normal osprey]

Budget build forsure

[arctic jungle]

...

it's 1000-1500

that's not budget

usd righ

[normal osprey]

Yeah

[arctic jungle]

that's not budget

[normal osprey]

I thought do

[arctic jungle]

budget is under 800 ish

[normal osprey]

So*

[arctic jungle]

open a pcpartpicker list

[normal osprey]

How

[arctic jungle]

do a 3070 and 5600x

go to pcpartpicker

.com

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/DvDv3C

:D

[arctic jungle]

grr

lol

i'll fix

[stoic island]

It's already perfect thooo
jk

[arctic jungle]

xD

case could be better

modular psu

[normal osprey]

I like that

Think i want some rgb in there

[stoic island]

td500 mesh as case then

[arctic jungle]

i'm editing it dw

[normal osprey]

Atleast 1tb of storage right

Think itll be able to run all the latest new titles like cyberpunk?

[arctic jungle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/64dCZZ

defo

at 1080p

[stoic island]

I don't like that aio

@arctic jungle galahad had stock when I checked yesterday

[arctic jungle]

it's not on sale rn

but it regularly goes down to 100

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-002Y-00003

no like performance wise

[arctic jungle]

oh pog

[stoic island]

it falls behind standard asetech designs

the msi mag liquid

[arctic jungle]

yeah

[stoic island]

and the galahad/ek-aio/freezer ii goes beyond asetech designs

[arctic jungle]

mhm

gallahad isn't my thing tho

I like the just normal ek aio

and no stock rn

[stoic island]

I just see galahad as another ek-aio

good perf, has rgb

[normal osprey]

That has wifi included @arctic jungle ?

[arctic jungle]

yeah

wifi 6

[hollow grail]

wifi is gross

[normal osprey]

Yeah 1080 p and morely concerned about getting better frames I’ll eventually buy a 244hz monitor

Is windows a must have when building a pc?

[stoic island]

an OS is necessary

You don't have to pay for a full 100$ for a windows license

5$ ebay windows 10 key works

[wanton cliff]

or just dont activate it

thats an option

[stoic island]

mhm

I hate watermark personally tho

[wanton cliff]

you can remove it for free

[stoic island]

yea

[wanton cliff]

little workaround

[stoic island]

but I'm too lazy to do regedit

might as well spend the 5$ for laziness

[wanton cliff]

https://youtu.be/wepVs720CnU?t=528

I hate that he is using Opera tho

over privacy concerns

[stoic island]

lol

[wanton cliff]

how good of an API is Vulkan?

compared to DX?

[stoic island]

Depends on the game

and the card

[wanton cliff]

Rainbow 6, for example, on a 5700XT?

[stoic island]

Better iirc

I've been told Vulkan is better for RTX 20xx and RTX 30xx, on top of RDNA and RDNA2

but I don't see any improvements on Vulkan over dx12 on Siege for me on my 2070

[wanton cliff]

interesting

thanks

[frosty ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGjXVc

any compatibility issues pcpartpicker might not have picked up?

[wanton cliff]

nope

thats a great build

[frosty ore]

perfect thank you!"

[wanton cliff]

just me though: I would pay the extra couple bucks to get a Scythe Mugen or something

[frosty ore]

just for optics or another reason?

[terse condor]

Anyone think the $2000 evga 3090 king pin worth it compared to a basic $1500 3090 if they're ever in stock Its supposed have the highest stock oc speed 1930 mhz. Could one reach those speeds on a founders edition for example with the right cooling??

[frosty ore]

have been told that the stock cpu cooler would be good enough

[urban trellis]

@frosty ore you mean stock cpu cooler

[blazing aurora]

rx 580 8gb or 1650 super

[frosty ore]

yes cooler**+

[urban trellis]

Intel stock coolers are bad amd ones are good if you don't overclock

[frosty ore]

yeah im not planning on overclocking and its a ryzen5 3600

[urban trellis]

Ok then stock is fine

@blazing aurora 1650 super is better

[blazing aurora]

okay

[urban trellis]

On userbench mark 1650 super is better by 10%

[blazing aurora]

I found a 2060 for around $200, is that a good deal

[urban trellis]

Usd

[blazing aurora]

user benchmark isn't reliable btw

and yeah usd

[urban trellis]

Yea it's good

Deal

[frosty ore]

Gigabyte B550M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
or
ASRock B550M-HDV ?

[stoic island]

ds3h has 4 ram slots

hdv has 2

and if you're gonna go ds3h, B550m pro4 is usually around the same price at around 90-95$

[urban trellis]

@stoic island how did u type that fast lol

[stoic island]

lemme check tho

what

am not that fast

[frosty ore]

xD

[frosty ore]

yeah theyre priced the same here

[urban trellis]

No when u said ds3h has 4 ram slots

That was legit right when he asked

[frosty ore]

true

[stoic island]

lol fast wifi

[urban trellis]

Or maybe it's my internet

10 mbps😭

[stoic island]

My internet is 0 ping >:D

well

[urban trellis]

Mine is 60