#building-and-recc-chat
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oh ok
@sand falcon I'd go for 3600mhz cl16 instead
@sand falcon Personally don't like ML aios, mobo could be better or cheaper, 3600c16 ram is recommended, and PSU I feel you can get more for the price
more as in better
not just wattage
I think Seasonic focus GM 650w is still hovering 100$
Is it? I didn't see it
Oh cool, wonder why pcpp didn't pick it up
Anyone available to make me a $1,500-2000 pc build for a 3070 ?
@tardy kindle anyways the rest of the differences are small differences in like fan headers and rgb headers, I'm also not talking about VRMs since all of them are good nuff.
@molten cedar can you get your hands on a 3070?
Because 1500$+ is where you can fit a 3080 if you can get one near MSRP
I have the 3070 twin edge graphics card not a 3080 😦 @stoic island
@sand falcon PCPP does pick it up, I look through my pcpp psu list
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/ry3RvK
Main thing with the AIO/ram/mobo is guaranteed RGB compatibility
How much?
Question fellas. My AIO is on top should the fans be in intake or out?
trident is expensive though. i've seen a 2 x 16 kit go for over $100.
uhhhh
yeah no z neos are over 100
2x16 should be over 100$..?
@jagged escarp do you have other intakes
dunno where you're looking for 2x16 under 100$ lol
ok
Yeah
3 in the front
$300 more all in all for 3600
i'm talking specifically about Trident Z.
oh ok i thought i so i followed the manual and it said intake which was akward to see
and are good prices
Theoretically yes, but reports are spotty
@frank isle 2x16gb of any decent ram goes over 100$
Yes trident goes higher than most other ram
Also, ya know, trident looks nice
But for Trident it's usually an ungodly amount.
And these are showcase systems
I spent like 160$ for my 3600c16 2x16gb kit
non-rgb you find 3600c16 2x16gb kits around 150$
I only have 3070 so what cpu and mb / other components do I pair it with
@molten cedar one moment
intel or amd??
you can take this and change the GPU out
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/HhWv3C
We actually were considering going 4x8gb, but decided against it
I saw trident 3600 mhz Cl 16 for 120 cad which is like 100 usd
doubt
10600k /10700k good ?
150cad is the cheapest I can see trident 3600c16 at
Yea they're good
@molten cedar want me to retrofit list?
Sure
Need wifi?
if you plan on buying now, then intel is probably the way to go since amd prices are overpriced lol and also stock
No I have Ethernet cable
Nvm it was Cl 18 not 16
And yeah now ish I guess
You can swap the cooler for smth else, but u12a is great and it's a decent price for a placeholder @molten cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/93T7Gq
oh yea forgot to swap the 3080 in the list for 3070
but yea
isnt that same cooler in black but for a bit more?
u12a black isn't out yet
oh then im thinkin of another noctua cooler
d15 black prob
yeahh
What if I’m building an all white build 👀 lol
damn it
lol
@molten cedar I'll make the list white
aio?
oh you have an aio in the list lol
the corsair h100i is a good one too its white
H100i overpriced
I know it’s expensive lol but honestly I’m not a hardcore gammer so I’d pay extra just to make very pretty 🤩😂
isn't that the same for asus aios though?
i see hes also going for an rog build lol
Strix overpriced imo
I just thought it’d be weird to get a Corsair psu and a rog mb 😂
@molten cedar https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yKvFbh
galahad is in stock at newegg
https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-002Y-00002
Oh yea
lemme look for a white PSU
lol
I think thermaltake may have some
Yeah that’s why I have 850 :/ definitely don’t need it but I couldn’t find others
should i buy Asus TUF VG279QM 27 inch Full HD with 280Hz or Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27” Monitor, 1440P WQHD with 165Hz?
im confused on which is the best
If anyone wants to help https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zHVXJf heres the pc for some reason this ram kit won't boot with the pc. Also with other ram kits the system is very laggy during games and has very frequent lag spikes.
High end air coolers can be out low end AIOs for cooling if you have the space
I would recommend the 165 Hz because the added resolution makes up for the lack of 280 hz.
The Noctua NH-D15 air cooler vs 5 of the most common AIOs
low end AIOs arent great, they're alright if you have space constraints
but a high end air cooler can beat it for marginally less
Yeah ^
When is the next drop for the best buy 3060ti founders?
Ok thank you :)
we probably won't know til best buy tells us, but usually 1-2 weeks is the wait time between BB drops for most things @verbal quarry
Alright is there a place for me to see when they release it?
falcodrin
constant monitoring
also any server with a stockbot/stockbuddy
like the Nvidia official server
Is there one with the 3060?
@wicked frigate Sure! Just gaming?
Yes
I have a 1300 build rn that I can send to you
only pc yeah
Ok thx
now note
Yah
Sure wait one second ill send it
Ok
Ok
I can swap it back to the 3060 if its to over budget
i got a 1400 pc build, but you should wait to buy the rtx3070 because they are overpriced
That's close to what I was thinking @verbal quarry but maybe if you don't need RGB, you could get 32gb of 3600MHz cl16 memory instead of 3200 so it has lower latency (8.88 ns vs 10 )
Oo could you send me a link to that?
I'm not a huge fan of rgb
@broken umbra are you done
@wicked frigate Unknown_Target had like the optimal build I was thinking for 1400-1500
I spent a week worth of research to make that lol
I didnt know much when I started
Personally I like the more cores with the 3700x but its up to you
its 10$ more and no RGB but its much faster RAM https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC4-28800-3600MHz-Ripjaws-16-19-19-39/dp/B07Z45XB3G
Or you could wait until Newegg does a sale on it again
brought it to like
130 iirc
I mean RGB doesn't effect performance, it can just be more expensive
yo, i recently built my first pc and everything works great except for any of the rgb lights and i have no idea what the cause of this could be and i would really apreciate some help : )
Brig I got rgb 32 3600
Like they sell the kit I just sent WITH RGB and its like 200$
yeah 3600 CL16 is good
thats 8.8 ns real world latency
@forest nexus did you connect it to the rgb header?
Alex when you get the time I would love to see that link
is 32GB really needed? I got no trouble with 16GB of RAM
I sent it in chat :P forgot to ping
@broken umbra so which build
is that the square thing at the back of the case?
https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-PC4-28800-3600MHz-Ripjaws-16-19-19-39/dp/B07Z45XB3G @verbal quarry Its 10$ more and no RGB but its much faster, although it sometimes goes on salefor even less
@forest nexus It would be on your mobo, which mobo do you have?
@broken umbra should o get his build
Oo ripjaws nice
@wicked frigate go with unknown_Target's build if you can spend the extra, the PCPartpicker build is exactly at your price point but it has half the ram and a bit of a slower cpu
Ok
Wait how is it sower
The 5600x is marginally faster than the 5 3600
Ok
I mean either is fine
So is that a good on w
if you dont want to spend the extra its fine
The one with the ripjaws?
Sure!
Yes
Ok one sec
@forest nexus Do you mean case and fans RGB isn't working? The Asrock b450M motherboard has an aRGB header on it which it shoul dconnect to
If you need extra fan headers or whatnot, you may need a hub
@broken umbra friend me
I'm checking, although I've never seen this case before @forest nexus
There should be a case header as well for the mobo
hmm
@young sphinx Thanks for your recommendation!
Can someone find me a gaming pc pre-build Canada. That can run games at atleast 60-70
also what budget
and you're 100% uncomfortable with building a pc?
have you ever watched a pc build video?
Sabrent 512GB nvme OR WD SN750 NVME?
which sabrent
Do you think white or black would like nicer on this case? https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H510-Elite-Dual-Tempered-Water-Cooling/dp/B07TD9VTVQ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=NZXT%2BH510%2Belite&qid=1608063721&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyM0tGR0Q5WTdKOVk2JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDI4NDAxMzRSSkhQREZTWEVLViZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODIwMDUzWlA2QVZLOVg3OVpDJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
the h510 is such a bad case for airflow
i have a problem with getting a PC right now...
i could get all the parts except for a GPU
but if i wait months before a GPU magically appears
how do i know the parts that i already got work before the wild GPU appears
get a cheap gpu
like a 710 or sum
or if your chip has an igpu, just boot off of that
ryzen 3000x-5000x doesnt, so i would have to get a cheap GPU
that takes away from my budget...
guess ill have to increase my budget
looks at other kidney 👀
Anything I should change in this list https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bk43gt
@little osprey a few things i see
id go with a samsung 970 evo if its on sale where you are
they have a mega sale here
same price as sn750 or cheaper
id also say cpu is a bit expensive rn
@verbal quarry just so you know, that list is in CAD, not USD
Yea I saw that after I said it
yup
But my point still stands
True
Good point
I got a 500gb m.2 that'll run most of everything while games stay on the hdd
And I have issues with storage on the 2tb I have now
again with that build
bruh
this is the 4th link today
Did he change anything to it originally?
i have no ideia but spamming the same link isn't gonna help
True
I don't see anything wrong with that
By the way, you can change the build and still use the same link
@foggy hazel could it be the motherboard?
because I just got a new kit and it seem s to have the same reacuring problem of being unstable during games.
@little leaf it could, its the last part that has not been changed no?
that or the cpu
so a friend asked me to make a budget micro atx build for around 900 bucks canadian and this is what I came up with, thoughts? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Asaad_syed/saved/#view=kg3fvK
@little leaf keep in mind, what you are going through is "normal" troubleshooting, one part at a time, test, test, test, keep on going through ALL the variations
and yes, i am aware it is mindbendingly annoying to experience
have you tested that the cooler is actually mounted with equal pressure @little leaf ?
no but thermals seem fine
thermals are not the problem @little leaf
unequal pressure = cpu acting up
if you tigthen things "just" right, you can cut off things like half the memory channels
Ya
If I’m getting 300 FPS but my monitor is only 60hz is that gonna suck?
so a friend asked me to make a budget micro atx build for around 900 bucks canadian and this is what I came up with, thoughts? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Asaad_syed/saved/#view=kg3fvK
used is a different story- find one for ~400$, which I doubt you will, then it's a good deal
otherwisee your better off with a 3070 or even a 3060 ti
hey everyone so i built my first pc yesterday and i plugged in all the cables right and everything and when i tried to turn it on i had no post
Check your CPU :/
make sure everything is plugged in
if not
cpu is least likely
i did make sure everything is plugged in
should i unplug all the power cables from the psu and just turn it on and see if the psu is dead
cus i think thats what it is
do you have an old PSU you test it with?
did u make sure to brush off the gold pins on the cpu? they may be interfering with the cpu connection
bruh
lol
im not that dumb
dont worry i havent even built my own pc
@foggy hazel no luck still unstable
dk if this would work but have you tried a different mouse?
If I’m getting 300 FPS but my monitor is only 60hz is that gonna suck?
did u make sure to brush off the gold pins on the cpu? they may be interfering with the cpu connection
@sterile canopy you need to wash the pins, use water so it is very clean
I just noticed the verge didnt install all the thumb screws on the aio pump
!rank
theAntiBoortz, that command is disabled in this channel.
Whats the best low profile ram....needs to fit with a NOCTUA DH15 cooler
Would a amd fx-4300 bottle neck a gtx 1060 with 1333mhz ram
Lpx from corsair
Probably not
Not a lot of upgrade space
@mossy citrus appreciate it
👍
yes
it's gonna bottleneck heavily
my friend had a fx 6300 and 1050 ti
fx 6300 was bottlenecking the 1050 ti hard.
It's a yes in my opinion
Nvm
Would a 5800x with a 3070 have any bottlenecks?
nope
questions
answers
is it worth the risk to go with a low profile 1650 with 200W?
or stick with the 1030
1650 would be a considerable upgrade but kinda bad for the price
is your case a sff?(small form factor)
if it's not, i would go with rx 570/580 used.
yeah I'm pretty sure it is
I'd have to ask my friend
no idea what prebuilt he bought yet so
oh
yeah prebuilt troubles
if his psu is a 500w and not a sff case
he can buy a rx 570 for like 100-120
or even less.
though thats gonna depends on the country
"The video card PCI-Express 12-pin power connector adapter is being supplied by two 6+2-pin power connectors. Please ensure that the 6+2-pin power connectors are not daisy-chained and do not share the same power cable." ?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BLPkW3
Need a power supply with 2 PCI-E 8 pin connectors
WHich that PSU has
so should be fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8s7Gq what should i change?
@silent canyon why do u have 2 liquid coolers for your cpu
Is there 2?
Ye
And get ATX motherboard
What’s the best motherboard for the 5900x
X570 anything
K
I thought it was 500
@silent canyon get an X570 motherboard or a B550 ATX and 3600 mhz ram cl 16 and change case to a Corsair 4000D airflow or Corsair icue 220T and get a 80+gold psu or better
Lol
I mean, if you're gonna go full size case, might wanna get an ATX motherboard and give yourself some room
Yes
@muted patio do Lian Li cases have good airflow
Realistically, that 2nd PCI-E slot will never be used. Consideration is RAM slots and SATA ports and NVME slots.
Generally, yes, Lian Li has good airflow
Honestly, the performance difference from a couple hundred MHZ core clock is negligible
SO pick the brand/look you like and go for it
Ok thx
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WRd7Gq how's this
Yea Imma overclock
I don't see any issues there
@silent canyon that looks good
Looks pretty solid
Yeah you can pump that
Should I go over that or is that what I should go to
Most are able to get a huge OC
GZ!
?
I found a really good Canadian retailer that gives you really good prices
The 3600 is really expensive eveywhere while over there is 280 cad
my case fans arent here yet and do you guys think my pc would be fine if i took off the side panel and used it, would it overheat? or be okay?
OH ok
mhm
Yes it will be ok
its a stock intel cooler tho
Ok then your better off just leaving the side panel open and just get all the drivers and other things you want downloaded
What cpu?
Ok
and they have a fan hub
What company fans
that uses molex aaaaand my psu doesnt have molex
rgb
Ok
theyre like 6 pins or something?
Then you should be able to plug them into ur motherboard
i just know its not normal fan connecter
What motherboard do you have
and its already shipped
Oh
PRIME B460M-A
the molex connecter is female
i tried looking for a male sata to a male molex
but i cant find
This is MALE Molex
Or if u can refund get uphere fans they come with a hub you can get 3 fans or 6 3 fans for 25 and 6 for 50 usd and they plug into your RGB 3 pin header on your motherboard
where does the sata plug in?
To a SATA power connector on your power supply
Owait
you need one of these
hang on
but thats female molex
No
Pins inside is MALE molex
This is female molex
SOckets
You need Pins or Sockets?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Stoleyouroreos/saved/RNkC6h Anything I should change ??
👍
@foggy hazel if this next kit of ram is unstable Im gonna assume its the mobo or cpu
Since i just tried a different 3070
so this is my first time building a pc (this is actually for my sister) but im just wondering if everything is compatible or if there are any issues, a lot of this stuff is for the aesthetics of it. Also, how would I go about getting white cables for everything?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xm8BGq
White cables = https://cablemod.com/made-for/cooler-master/
alright, how do i know which ones i will need?
do i just need one of the "full cable kits"?
alright thx
Wow your really nice to your sister
Very nice besides the fact your buying 100 dollar windows
Oh I see
Ok well I think you can improve the list
Whats the main purpose of the list
mainly just the aesthetics of it, that's what it's centered around
ye, all white is kinda spendy
yeah
yeah, we went over them and she chose this one
I belive there is cheaper white rgb ram
ah that would be helpful
@slender flax ok but the fact is that your getting a 3070 in a 2.5k build
It just makes me feel sad even if it’s mainly for looks
First try looking at tge gigabyte vision 3080
This would fit thr build better
alright i convinced her to get the 3080
qlc is gross
Second instead maybe get a mp34
And a larger hdd to save like 50 bucks
The o11 is very pricey
And the smaller one is 100
id get a 2tb rocket instead tbh
okay so what is qlc and mp34?
mp34 is cheap ssd by teamgroup
The build is 2.5k
And has a 3070
if you get a 2tb ssd you arent going too budget anyways
alright i switched it to 3080 now
@slender flax whats the main purpose
im saying if you do spend on 2tb of ssd make sure it isnt trash tier
Video editing?
shes gonna be streaming, gaming, and video editing, with some light programming
also doesnt want to have to upgrade for a good while
Maybe save moneh and do a 5800x but
Idk thats your choice
I would grt cheaper fans
220 on fans is excessive and I also wouldnt get the bigger o11 the regular one is already big
oh is this case a larger version?
Also personally I wanted a really good looking build then when I got it I looked at it for 30 seconds lmao
lol yeah, thing is im just doing whatever she wants since i wouldnt get any of this if it was my build
can you link the non xl? gotta be silver or white though, cant see it on the list
Check this out on @Newegg: LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic White Tempered Glass on the Front and Left Sides, Chassis Body SECC ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case - PC-O11DW
It ha rissen in price though
So if you want just go with thr other one
alright that seems to work, thanks
cant find cheaper ram with rgb though
should i look elsewhere than the pcpartpicker lists?
I guess the one I had in mind is more expensive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dDVG3C/adata-swordfish-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-aswordfish-2t-c
so is this ssd good enough?
I cant really tell since im on molbile rn
i dont really know much about ssds so im just relying on reviews
Stay away from ADATA
Recent class action against them
Swapping components for other than advertised speeds
Ok, no lawsuit yet but caught red handed
Check #storage-devices pins there should be a list
My adata ssd failed. In 2 months
Losing all my data
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8VDH7X
so this is the updated list, changed the SSD and the gpu, can't find any cheaper fans in white with rgb, if anyone has some that'd be cool
Dont buy windows at 100 dollars
@slender flax your ssd is sata and you can get windoes for like 10 bucks
oh okay
honestly
Between NVME and SATA, the loading times for games and OS is almost no difference
i would say the same but that build is really overpriced so...

White is expensive
Plus $900 in monitors
yeah, whole point is to keep it white themed lol
are you going to make it like a budget workstation?
My idea is just a cardboard box and shove a pc into it
good idea
No case needed
Milk crate PC
motherboard box case
microwave pc
Let me cook a pop tart in my pc
okay so what about this ssd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MTFKHx/sabrent-rocket-q-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sb-rktq-2tb
same price but nvme
yeah someone did send this one before
is the better one worth the extra $30 though?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V33D7X
alright, swapped out the fans and ssd, and set windows 10 to $10
yeah, we were planning on painting it white
KK
Leave it alone and roll, although you can save a bit on the AIO with a cooler master model
Up to you
What's $100 in the $3500 number LOL
not much
@slender flax btw, you going use that pc for?
yes it was
ah
^^
Ye
idk why white parts are more expensive but they are by a king shot
Big time
long shoy
it's kinda silly lol
also i can't find this specific pack of cables anywhere to buy, any help?
https://cablemod.com/product/cablemod-cm-series-vs-550650750-modflex-cable-kit-white/
cables are hard to find atm
We're making progress!
wooo
@tired harbor shush
https://www.microcenter.com/product/473453/C-Series_RMi-RMx_Basic_Cable_Kit_-_MC_Edition_-_Black-White
so found this but i dont think this is all the cables i'd need right?
hmm
Yeah, I'm looking too
woooooow
Can't find them in stock anywhere
Might have to wait for those
could switch psu to corsair? looking if they have white one
true
XD
Just checked the Cooler Master Website
The V Gold - v2 offers the high quality user experience you've always wanted. Enjoy an 80 Plus Gold efficiency rating, full-modular cabling, semi-fanless operation, a 135mm FDB fan, 16AWG PCIe high efficiency cables, and a 10 year warranty. Improvements and innovations from the components to the cables deliver a power supply unit fit for any and...
So I'd say you're done
@slender flax
wow didnt know that
Me neither
makes my job and yours a lot easier lol
alright nice, so if we got these parts and build it, they should all be compatible and work right?
ye
Welcome!
Only thing is
Might have to use the BIOS flashback feature to update BIOS before CPU will work
Not a big deal
I don't think I put enough thermal paste on my m.2's
I think I've done it.
I've never installed a heat sink onto an nvme drive before.
It looks so much cleaner now.
Oh my gosh.
This noctua cooler is so massive.
it barely fits in this case.
@nimble sinew are you joking lol
You put paste on you m.2
Well I wouldnt do that t
The sticker on it is a heat spreader
And the thing you put ontop is like a heatsync
I took the sticker off.
Also im pretty sure that voids warranty
So ya whatever
I mean, it's looking very pretty right now.
I just need my case fans and PSU and then I begin assembly.
I wanted the heatsink to cover the ugly green pcb
Which it does very well.
You can't see it anymore 😄
For what though
Oh jntel ssd bad
Is i7 9700f and 3060ti good for builds
intel ssd is garbage
at least consumer
only green pcb ssd id trust is https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DK2FB7G lol
help i cant find the motherboard standoff screws
@clever eagle some cases dont have them just preset ones
if it does it will be with the stuff that came with the case
that's what she said, lmao
Hi guys, so right now I have a HP Pavilion Power 530-180. It's in a pre-built tower 14" x 7" x 14" which is a mini tower size I think. Do you think it will fit into a mid tower?
Mid tower is bigger than mini I would think
The problem is only that oem boards might have different layout
thx its was in the hdd slot
will this work in gaming use
or is it for servers only
it is cl18 3600mhz
16 2x8
that is not for servers at all
note unbuffered and non ECC
will be fine for your use
Hey folks I am new to the server but I literally just bought a new computer and built it, I am getting the blue screen of death either once or multiple times a day, I have checked to make sure my drivers are up to date, reformatted the entire computer (operating system up) and I am still getting it, my guess is there is a faulty memory that is dumping incorrectly. What do you suggest because this is crazy the computer is less than a month old. I can post the parts as neeeded, my roommate and i built almost identical computers and his is not crashing. SO I am guessing I have a faulty part.
list the specs
dm me
@last lance
can the r5 1600af support ram faster than 2667mhz
because that is what the amd site stated
I DM'ed you

@last lance DON"T USE ROSEWILL PSUS
I was wondering...if I wanted to use ray tracing on more than just cyperpunk thru GeForce Now, could I get the PNY 2060S and just swap between that and my 5700XT?
I'd really only use the 2060S for Cyberpunk and Minecraft
thats so dumb wtf
Well I'd get a 6800XT but those are either sold out or overpriced
why not sell the 5700xt and get a 30 series card cause amd gets stomped by nvidia still
And a 2060 is cheaper than a 3060
yes but youre not factoring in your current gpu's cost
And because my monitors are free-sync
nvidia cards do freesync
I thought they were G-sync
What's the difference?
gsync is better because its hardware based
like the display has hw in it
special chip
freesync works alright though and just means the displays have to have panels that are to spec
its all software
since its all software nvidia just patched it in
i hate nvidia but amd isnt viable tbh
theyre a bit less but you get much less
in terms of features
Well if I went 3000, I would get the asus ko 3070, which even if I sold my 5700xt, I still couldn't afford
whas ur budget?
Under $500
Well I can get the asus rog strix gaming advanced 2060 S for $490
youd literally have to be a total idiot to do that
i say that in the kindest way possible
Or an evga ultra for 437
or
keep eyes peeled
and
The EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 is powered by the NVIDIA Ampere architecture. Built with enhanced RT Cores and Tensor Cores, new streaming multiprocessors, and high-speed G6 memory, it gives you the power you need to rip through the most demanding games at 1440p resolution. Combined with the next generation of design, cooling, and overclocking with EV...
boop
529
evga makes the best cards
Well, I have an msi motherboard so I figured controlling the gpu would be easier
not worth tbh
matching brands doesn’t really serve any benefit besides rgb software, which they are all terrible
evga has better warranty while MSI has slightly better specs
wrong on both @gleaming quartz
well wrong on msi specs
theyre meh
and (imo) build worse
built*
Can some1 help me? I am trying to connect my pc to my monitor and i plugged everything in but it wont connect. Im using a hdmi cable.
MSi is average on performance and support is trash
their Ventus line sucks and I've been 0-2 on them
msi support is so bad that in order to get a laptop warrantied i had to threaten to cancel a corporate contract
jeez
i have never had to call support for my MSI stuff before so thanks for clearing that up
theyre textbook amazing
^
@gleaming quartz my 980 had an issue
my fault
evga sent over a 1080 as a free replacement
DAMN
and let me keep the 980
customer for life
^^^^^^
so yeah i shill them but its for a good reason
yeah i can see why
my friend
his msi 1080 literally
EXPLODED
and caught on fire
msi told him to pound sand
and my friend is a smart guy
electrical engineer
wow.
he had the tools to determine it was 100% the card
and not psu or anything like that
card was just built like trash
what card was it?
their cards are garbage
i forgot but it was one of their higher end 1080s
msi is trash tier imo
gpu wise
i like some of their boards though
their boards are good
some are
EVGA has always been good for like all around being a solid company
evga is an admirable company
I'd probably use it to run like a minecraft server or something lmao
but out of those options I would probably go with a portable vr pc
MSI living up to the dragon on their logo
and their trash cards
Is it worth buying an alienware desktop?
The AMD version.
Or would it be better to build my own pc.
dont buy from big companies
build your own pc
you want prebuilt? get from someone reputable like xoticpc
well of course building is going to be much cheaper and you can make sure that it has reliable parts
its not cheaper anymore tbh
depends on what you're building and what prebuilt company you're buying from tbf
You know what makes me laugh, is I almost had an omen when I applied for dell credit for a prebuilt. The application didn't go through because of dell's side.
So maybe its a good omen
Telling me to go elsewhere
but yeah the price difference is a lot less noticeable now
@zinc marsh id argue its better to get prebuilt nowadays
since you dont get scalped on gpu/cpu
I mean in our current situation yeah
@little osprey https://xoticpc.com/
but once these parts are actually in stock that wont be true
Sounds good lili
Honestly I would get from a builder like xotic then. Because of warranties and stuff
If something goes bad on a custom self built, gotta send individual parts back. From a builder, send em everything and let em fix it
yep
and we might see price change with some gpus going for lower price to compete agaisn't the new rtx 3000 & rx 6000
hopefully we will start seeing rtx 2000 series going for much cheaper within a few months
I mean obviously it's going to stay expensive until parts are actually in stock
RTX 2K is discontinued
Only gonna go up
nViudia quit making them in July or something
You sure? I mean why would people want to buy em if there are better options for cheaper msrp
yep theyre discontinued


