#building-and-recc-chat

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glad mason
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There will be some X470 boards that support ALL AM4 processors

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B450 does not have that

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Will not have that.

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I expect the same to come from B550 vs X570

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Budget boards, budget support.

foggy hazel
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what a chipset supports is 100% up to 2 things.

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amd design spec. AND manufacturer bios support.

glad mason
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AND whether AMD decides to release a BIOS microcode update for that board to OEMs to even flash it with.

final meadow
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Most B450 will support future 5000 amd processors with just a bios update

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I think I’ll get the B550M for $120 cheaper

foggy hazel
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@final meadow long story short. It does not technically matter for you which of the 2 boards you select.

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both boards have the same problem in regards to future cpus

fiery flicker
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so?

foggy hazel
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being, they are (as far as we know) the last chipsets for DDR4 cpu's

final meadow
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Worst case scenario, I would update Both the mobo and processor if I needed to

foggy hazel
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next cpu series from amd will (most likely) be ddr5

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does that answer your question @final meadow ?

glad mason
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We may get some hybrid boards, but if you're asking whether you should get X570 or B550... if you have to ask, get B550.

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I don't advocate it in my own builds

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Also, if you're not running something like a 5900x or 5950X there's no point.

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Balance is important in picking your parts.

final meadow
glad mason
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DDR5 is coming next year, but it's not for sure.

final meadow
glad mason
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Yeah, then you should absolutely be going B550.

final meadow
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Thanks!

gusty mica
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can a someone help out with a simple question

foggy hazel
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ask, and if someone knows or wants to spend the time, they will answer :)

gusty mica
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well i got 3 rgb fans that came with my case, all fan as both 3 pin and also 4 pin, the 4 pin plug are connected with a splitter, want i iwant to know where do i need to plug that splitter in sys fan1? which is a 12v plug

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it's pretty much the only thing that's stopping me to build my new case. :V

little osprey
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@agile folio i just let it rest for a bit and the problem stopped

idle hawk
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I'm so tempted to open it

hazy rune
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Do it

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I opened mine

idle hawk
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i wanna sell it

hazy rune
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Up to you

idle hawk
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i dont need it lol

gusty mica
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why you scalping bro

hazy rune
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Then why did you buy it lol

idle hawk
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Why you assuming

gusty mica
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because I can

agile folio
idle hawk
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Ok you're dumb for that

hazy rune
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Not at all, if you’re selling it, you’re selling above msrp

gusty mica
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^

hazy rune
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I don’t see anything wrong with that

idle hawk
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Supply and demand

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Not scalping

hazy rune
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As long as you’re not using unfair means to get the cards in first place 😉

idle hawk
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Nope

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Just like everyone else

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Best buy

hazy rune
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All is fair game then

idle hawk
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I managed to get the FE and the ventus

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And buddy opened and used his and overclocked his FE and it went to 3070 territory

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The FE has massive potential

hazy rune
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I have 3070 FE and it rocks

idle hawk
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Noice lol

hazy rune
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It boosts up to 2000mhz no problem

idle hawk
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I got my buddies 3060ti to 2040

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I was also thinking was hanging on the FE and selling my water cooled 2070 super

ancient valley
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I need a 1000$ pc list

vital warren
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over 1k

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under 1k

vagrant olive
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@idle hawk sell me the fe one

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for msrp

bleak cedar
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I'm so damn excited to build this pc

vagrant olive
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not an aorus mobo

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🙄

idle hawk
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lolol no u a shrill

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guys if you have questions ping me here

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dont dm me

misty nest
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Can someone build me a full setup (Pc,2 Monitors,Keyboard&Mouse&Headset) for 5500$?

timid talon
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like parts list or the actual thing? And atm you'd be better waiting with a budget like that so you can actually get good components and they're not out of stock.

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and 5500 is definitely overboard imo

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unless you're using it for work

hazy rune
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@misty nest I suggest you look at microcenter and their custom builds for that kind of budget

timid talon
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^

hazy rune
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They will do custom loops for you

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And put whatever you want in it

little osprey
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5500$ is alot
He is probally doing it for work i guess
or he wants a workstation

timid talon
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yeah that's what I'd think tbh

hazy rune
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Personally imma go with troll, but I’ve been proven wrong before

raw mist
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When will the r5 3600 be in stock?

viral ore
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the only reason its out of stock is because its a last gen product

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they arent being made anymore

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wegg still has em tho

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230 is a bit much tho, whereas the 10600k is better for 270

stoic island
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10400 gud

viral ore
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but 10600k good too

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and is 40 dollars better than the 3600 at least

stoic island
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Cooling solution sad tho

viral ore
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tru, gotta pay more for cooling

stoic island
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Still worth, but need to consider Gammaxx 400 cost

raw mist
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so what should i do

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if its never coming back into stock

viral ore
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i mean, they in stock rn

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slight markup because they arent being made anymore

little osprey
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You can wait and probally get it when stock arrives
Or wait for next year

raw mist
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u said that there not being made so how will they come back into stock

viral ore
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because they still exist

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floating around warehouses

stoic island
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@viral ore think 10600k+gammaxx 400 is better value than 10400?

viral ore
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10400 allows you to cheap out on ram and motherboard

raw mist
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what mobo should i get for the 10400 then

viral ore
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10400 great ubercheap option imo, its the kinda thing you pair with a crucial P1 when it goes on sale and the cheapest mATX case you can find

little osprey
viral ore
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the 3600?

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is no longer being made

little osprey
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Also 10400 is poggers

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Oh
I though it was the 5600x

viral ore
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no

raw mist
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so shud i wait for the r5 3600 or get a 10400f rn?

viral ore
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3600 is seeing demand spikes due to zen 3 unavailability

stoic island
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3600 MIGHT still be produced in low numbers, but stock will dwindle

viral ore
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3600 is running out of stock everywhere as people buy them

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price go up

little osprey
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Still in stock and at msrp

raw mist
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and what mobo shud i pair it with?

stoic island
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10400 was cheaper than 10400f last I checked so check yourself

viral ore
foggy hazel
storm carbon
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Sorry to bother people, does anyone have a $600 build?

raw mist
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oof everythings out of stock

storm carbon
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Lol i was about to say there are no prices for the cpu/ram

little osprey
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What

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sorry to bother anyone, but would you mind helping me out, i built a pc a few months ago and it fells a bit slow. Would anyone know what's going on?

hazy rune
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Did you spend enough money?

little osprey
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yeah

stoic island
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Feeling slow is very vague

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Any more clarifications?

little osprey
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boot times feel a bit slow

hazy rune
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You have SSD?

little osprey
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nah

hazy rune
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That’s why

little osprey
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ok

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does it matter have much storage is in it?

hazy rune
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For boot times? Not really

little osprey
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ok so i can just get a 125 or 250 gb?

stoic island
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I'd say a good 250gb SSD

foggy hazel
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250 is the sane size for a windows install

hazy rune
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Anything below 500 is bad value imo

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But yes that’s fine

stoic island
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250gb is minimum really

little osprey
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ok what would you guys recommend

foggy hazel
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and yes, 500gig is the one with the sane price to size ratio

stoic island
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What motherboard?

little osprey
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b450m

little osprey
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?

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i pirated windows

stoic island
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Pirating windows doesn't matter

foggy hazel
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@little osprey elaborate on what you are asking please?

hazy rune
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Samsung evo for $60 is still a solid price

little osprey
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ok thanks guys

little osprey
stoic island
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I mean they just want a boot drive so I went for cheapest decent drive I saw

hazy rune
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I mean it works

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I wouldn’t buy it, but it works lol

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Price is decent

stoic island
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I personally wouldn't buy any SSD under 500gb but

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It's just a boot drive

foggy hazel
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the install files are less than 8 gigs. the "unpacked/installed" windows is a "tight" fit on a 120gig drive. IF you have anything else on that drive at all. Does that answer it for you@little osprey ?

little osprey
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Ah alright.

hazy rune
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Yeah 120 is pretty much bare minimum

foggy hazel
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you can easily fit windows (installed) on a 120, but you have very little room for anything else

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also, prices for 120 drives are bonkers vs 500 drives

little osprey
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Mine takes like 90 gigs
With 150 left for games

stoic island
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Log files and temp files on windows can also creep up to the max storage

foggy hazel
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aye aye, but those can be managed easily enough @stoic island

stoic island
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(just saying another reason why you might not want to have windows on a 120gb ssd even if you don't have anything else on it)

foggy hazel
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aye aye :)

stoic island
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Side note, leaks of a Corsair 5000d/airflow's images sounds fun

summer pasture
stoic island
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Sounds good

indigo crescent
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Gpu most def

summer pasture
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Ok 👍

slender owl
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Is 99degrees Fahrenheit 37.2 in Celsius bad for a gpu? 3060ti

deep skiff
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no

slender owl
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What is a high temperature?

little osprey
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dont quote me on this but i believe anywhere above 85/90 is hot

summer pasture
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Yes

grim pagoda
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Does it matter if my gpu isn’t screwed in and is a bit wobbly but is fully connected via the port? As my gpu screw holes don’t function.

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balmy patio
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find a way to get it held in place and making sure it stays that way if you can't fit some screws on the slots

fiery flicker
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3070 or 3060ti?

balmy patio
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use a gpu bracket, cuz if the gpu isn't secured and is a hefty one, it might break the pcie slot

slender owl
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^

rich helm
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@slender owl anything above 80 degrees Celsius is when it starts to be concerning

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Also is that while playing games or just idle

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Cause that’s like pretty good if you are playing games

misty nest
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5500$ is alot
He is probally doing it for work i guess
or he wants a workstation
@little osprey yep i need it to operate as a server also, im going to run test game servers on it and a huge database

tame hazel
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I guess I was able to do the impossible.

📎 asus
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Sorry

misty nest
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Did you find it on msrp price?

tame hazel
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yeah got it at microcenter

misty nest
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😦

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im not from us or canda

tame hazel
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wanted the strix version but this is all they had

misty nest
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evreything here is x2 the msrp

tame hazel
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i know if u dont live in north america ur screwed

misty nest
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at least everything is in stock 😂

glacial umbra
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canada has really bad pricing rn as well

misty nest
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look at this

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2850 usd for rtx 3090

tame hazel
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greedy people

misty nest
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is there any company that ships worldwide workstation/gaming desktops that is not a scam?

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and has the new amd cpus

frozen junco
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Is there a reason I can’t post a pick of my rig in build pics

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It gets deleted Immediately

misty nest
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maybe it fails to upload

frozen junco
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Huh

ember finch
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Is it okay that my pc’s this loud running cyberpunk? I got a 3070, Ryzen 7, good stuff

light halo
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yeah cyberpunk is just a rlly demanding game

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try to check the temps of both your cpu and gpu and make sure they are not too hot

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but you should be fine

ember finch
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Ok I’m sorry for sounding like a total rookie but how do I check them

crude lagoon
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guys i just built my pc and randomly my pc will just shut off when its underload

light halo
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usually you can just download a software like nzxt cam and it will tell you all the temps of you components along with other info

crude lagoon
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my cpu temps idle are kinda high, maybe thats why? around like 60C

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r5 5600x

tepid oyster
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Hi, i'm new here, I'm rocking a Intel i7-8700 and Aorus B360 board, what Graphics Card should i get?

light halo
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are you using the stock cooler for the cpu that came with the 5600x?

light halo
tepid oyster
ember finch
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Ok so my r7 3700x is running about 63C and my 3070 is running 67C do I have anything to worry about

crude lagoon
light halo
tepid oyster
light halo
light halo
ember finch
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Well, if by under load you mean with Cyberpunk 2077, NZXT Cam, discord and chrome running in background then it’s under load

light halo
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ok then yeah those temps are completely normal

ember finch
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So it’s nothing I should worry about?

light halo
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no you should be fine

ember finch
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Alright, whew

light halo
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it would only be something to worry about if the temps of them hit above 85C

light halo
# crude lagoon im using the wraith prism

are you sure your not using a wraith stealth because those are the ones that come with the 5600x and they are not that good. The wraith prism is the one with the rgb and performs much better

crude lagoon
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yea

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has RGB n everything

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but I used some old thermal paste

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I hope it's not psu cause that's gonna be a pain if it is

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I'll try n re apply thermal

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while in bios cpu was 66.5

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c

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@light halo

light halo
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i dont think that the temperature problems should occur from the psu, what kind of case do you use

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@crude lagoon

crude lagoon
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corsair 220t

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the problem is the random shutting off

light halo
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hmmmmmm, ok then it could be your psu

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how old is it?

little osprey
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Heyy

crude lagoon
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brand new

little osprey
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Guys what would you pick between 2x8gb 3200 (60€) or 2x16go 2666 (75€)?

crude lagoon
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EVGA 750GA

light halo
crude lagoon
light halo
# crude lagoon EVGA 750GA

that is definitely a solid psu especially if its brand new, maybe you should just try to do a full shutdown on your computer

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because as long as your cpu or gpu temp does not go above 85c you should not be seeing any shutting off

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but with what you are telling me, it kind of sounds like a psu problem over anything else

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you should have a warranty on it

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if you said its new

stoic island
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@crude lagoon bsod or straight up black screen

vagrant olive
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i7 8750h and gtx 1060 going STRONG for cyberpunk

crude lagoon
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@stoic island blackscreen and it restarts

stoic island
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What HPU

crude lagoon
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@light halo yea 10 year

stoic island
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Gpu

crude lagoon
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3070

stoic island
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Got drivers?

crude lagoon
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yep

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newest

stoic island
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What kind of load does it black screen under

crude lagoon
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like mild loads

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valorant for example

stoic island
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Launching the game or what

crude lagoon
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playing for a lil bit

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I wanted to see my cpu temps and went on cyberpunk

stoic island
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Fun, time to stress test to find what exactly is wrong

crude lagoon
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got a good 20 mins

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and bleh

stoic island
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You got Prime95?

crude lagoon
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I'm reapplying thermal paste rn

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but I can install

stoic island
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Gotta figure out what the problem is before trying to fix it :p

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P95 will stress cpu, furmark will stress gpu

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Might grab occt or memtest86 if neither are conclusive

light halo
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I had a similar problem a couple years ago and for me it turned out to be an issue from my psu. i got a new one, threw it in and then it wasfine after that

stoic island
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Might as well test everything before jumping to buying a new PSU

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Or pay shipping for RMA

light halo
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no ur right @stoic island im just saying from personal experience

fleet horizon
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Does anyone know if your a mobo is compatible with a am4 mounting bracket for a cooler?

stoic island
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?

fleet horizon
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I'm currently working on my build but my wraith prism needs a mounting bracket and it seems like the mobo doesn't have any

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stoic island
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Hm

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Check the Mobo box

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If I had to guess there's another backplate and brackets

cobalt tree
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Do I need a CPU to flash an X570 bios for r9-5900x?

stoic island
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Possibly, if the motherboard doesn't have bios flashback

fleet horizon
cobalt tree
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So if it specifically points out "Bios Flashback" it should work without a CPU? For example, MSI Tomahawk x570?

stoic island
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@cobalt tree different companies call it different names, just look for the button on rear io that says like bios flashback or like q flash plus or something else

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Anyways, either way, good motherboard to look at is a B550 aorus elite ax

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Good VRMs good io and has bios flashback

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@cobalt tree "bios flashback" is somewhat of a broad term, but it means having the capability to flash a bios on using just a usb stick, with no cpu or gpu or ram installed, just power plugged in.

runic wraith
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I need help with unreliable wall power please. What should I do about a wall power that is unstable? What is a good UPS + Surge protector that will protect my computer from under and over spikes/drops??

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I know APC tends to be good

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but I'm not sure which model

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Because it isn't just powerloss

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it is underpowering and fluctuations

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any ideas?

crude lagoon
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so i reapplied the thermal paste and now my temps dropped by 10C

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which is a good start i guess

upper cobalt
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been using this for 9 years for everything

bitter flint
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So my psu only came with one cord that had only one plug so I connected it to the cpu, so I had to use one with two plugs for my graphics card. Is that okay? Do I need to buy another cord that only has one plug?

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upper cobalt
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Yeah that should work better actually

bitter flint
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Oh cool! Why does it work better?

fleet horizon
fleet horizon
bitter flint
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Cool cool, thank you!

cobalt tree
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Does anyone know where I can get a pretty good fan/rgb hub? The only good thing I could find was the iCUE Commander Core in the CAPELLIX 360mm rad

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I need at least 4 fan headers and another header for pump

runic wraith
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My apartment building surges randomly (landlord is well aware as many tenants have complained).

cobalt tree
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I saw that there is a sizeable corsair hub but I thought it seemed kinda expensive for what it was.

upper cobalt
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You can watch that if your worried about it

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you should be fine, really

crude lagoon
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@stoic island ok so now when i play val, it doesnt crash and my avg temp is like 64c

little osprey
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i mean its pretty late rn so maybe tomorrow in the morning prices go down

bitter flint
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@upper cobalt thank you! I really appreciate it

stable smelt
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holy crap, that is a lot of markup

frigid zinc
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and for fps steam games

bitter flint
stable smelt
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yeah

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that stuff skyrocketing

little osprey
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you should get 16 gigs of memory

frigid zinc
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ye im getting 16

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u mean ram

little osprey
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yes

frigid zinc
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yea im getting 16

upper cobalt
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you can run roblox on intel hd graphics kekw

frigid zinc
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it dosent let me add 2

little osprey
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that's true

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but for fps games a gpu is recommended

fossil halo
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omg

upper cobalt
fossil halo
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@ cornfile is a scalper

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disgusting

frigid zinc
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price or gig per stick

fossil halo
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and he posts his pics in puild pics too

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disgusting

upper cobalt
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price

frigid zinc
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idk actually

little osprey
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you're buying a ram kit right ?

frigid zinc
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lemme convert to dollars

little osprey
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like 2x8 ?

frigid zinc
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idk

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i dont even know how that works

little osprey
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don't buy 2 seperate 8 gig sticks

frigid zinc
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but i assume yes cause alot of pple told me to buy 2x8

little osprey
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make sure to get 2x8

upper cobalt
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yeah it would be better to get a kit

frigid zinc
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how do i search the specific ktis

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ktis*

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kits

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just the ram i want and kits?

little osprey
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you usually use search filters

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i don't know what site you're using

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but select 2x8 and decent ram speed in filters

frigid zinc
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k

little osprey
frigid zinc
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bruh

little osprey
frigid zinc
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it dosent have the option

little osprey
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but certainly not 2400 mhz

upper cobalt
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I think a 16gb 3600mhz gskill rip jaws kit is like 70 bucks right now

little osprey
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may i ask you where you live ?

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oooh

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alright

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are you buying from the states or on a local site ?

frigid zinc
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wdym from states

little osprey
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USA

upper cobalt
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where are you getting your parts

frigid zinc
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diff places

little osprey
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i mean : sites like amazon, newegg... shipping from the us ?

frigid zinc
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oh

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no

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local

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that'd take like 3 weeks to ship

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or a bit less idk

little osprey
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i'm not familiar with chilean sites hmmm

frigid zinc
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neither i am

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first time building a pc lol

upper cobalt
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i’d just stick with amazon then

frigid zinc
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all these sites are reccomendations from friends i know

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i mean

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im trying to for the cheap at this point

little osprey
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yeah.. as frog said you should order your ram from other sites

frigid zinc
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alr

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ill look into the ram tmrw

little osprey
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just for futureproofing purposes, 3000+ mhz

frigid zinc
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k

little osprey
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maybe one day you won't play roblox but more demanding games

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ideally 3200 mhz

frigid zinc
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so 2x8 ram

little osprey
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yep

frigid zinc
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ok

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alr ty

little osprey
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yw 😄

final meadow
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guys, 1660 Super or RX 5500 XT 8 gb version? they're roughly the same price

upper cobalt
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1660 super

little osprey
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1660 super

upper cobalt
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1660s should be noticeably cheaper than a 5500 xt

final meadow
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thanks, i just hope its still available by friday wuuut

upper cobalt
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how much are the ones you were looking at

final meadow
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if I recall correctly, 220 for 1660super and 250 for 5500 XT

upper cobalt
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wow

final meadow
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also got r5 3600 + b550 mobo for 350

upper cobalt
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really good prices

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buy them asap

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the 1660 s

little osprey
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those are deals WOW

final meadow
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the r5 deal is on microcenter

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there were a couple still available

upper cobalt
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microcenters mobo+cpu deals can be pretty good if you know what to look for

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with 3600 prices right now i’d say that’s a steal

final meadow
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i got lucky tbh

upper cobalt
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yeah

final meadow
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i searched on the right moment

upper cobalt
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don’t wait too long

final meadow
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before trying on a sketchy site like shopblt. com

final meadow
#

I just have to pick it in store

upper cobalt
#

sick

final meadow
#

next weekend when i get to the states hopefully

upper cobalt
#

you live out of state?

final meadow
#

yep, Mexico

upper cobalt
#

i didn’t think of looking for stock from other micro centers.

#

wow!

#

that’s really cool

#

which micro center

final meadow
#

I'm visiting my brother for holidays

final meadow
#

i think it was Dallas or Houston

upper cobalt
#

nice

#

i live near the one in tustin

#

so not super great deals for me right now because they’ve only been focusing on restocking 30 series cards

final meadow
#

I hope I can get a next gen card next year

upper cobalt
#

yup same hoping for a 6800 xt

#

your 1660 should be fine for games right now

#

pretty respectable card

#

but it would be smart to get next gen cards at msrp

final meadow
#

currently I'm getting the following:
Ryzen 5 3600
ASRock B550M Steel Legend
Corsair Veangance RGB 3200 MHz
1tb corsair nvme

upper cobalt
#

how much for the corsair nvme

#

did you pay

final meadow
#

i think its like 86

upper cobalt
#

pretty good

final meadow
#

I dont have it yet

severe axle
#

@final meadow whats the cas latency on ram?

final meadow
crude lagoon
#

why does my cpu get super hot when i try downloading somthing? like 74C

#

r5 5600x

upper cobalt
#

what are your idle temps

crude lagoon
#

around 55c

upper cobalt
crude lagoon
#

is that bad? @upper cobalt

upper cobalt
#

should be 40-50

#

well you should be fine

crude lagoon
#

maybe my therm paste is dog?

upper cobalt
#

what cooler do you have

#

did you follow the verges guide?

crude lagoon
#

i did not follow the verges guide

#

and i have the wraith prism

upper cobalt
#

did you apply your own thermal paste?

crude lagoon
#

yes

upper cobalt
#

pea size?

crude lagoon
#

it was some coolermaster

#

yea

upper cobalt
#

maybe wipe it off and then make sure it’s spread evenly

crude lagoon
#

i already reapplied it lol

#

covered ihs

#

thin layer

upper cobalt
#

does your fan stop spinning at all,

#

?

crude lagoon
#

nope

upper cobalt
#

like when it’s idle or anything

#

huh

#

out of ideas except try reapplying thermal paste again

#

you bought the whole bottle

#

might as well use the whole bottle

crude lagoon
#

it was old

#

so

#

maybe that has affect on it?

upper cobalt
#

huh, don’t know if thermal past expires

#

@crude lagoon

#

how old is it

#

years?

crude lagoon
#

2

#

years

upper cobalt
#

wow that’s funny

#

it says thermal paste has a shelf life of 2 years

crude lagoon
#

...

#

rough

upper cobalt
#

if you stored it in a cool place out of sunlight

crude lagoon
#

nope

upper cobalt
#

i would get new thermal paste

crude lagoon
#

damn

#

im broke af rn LOL

upper cobalt
#

that’s better than buying a new cooler atleast lmao

crude lagoon
#

true

upper cobalt
#

arctic thermal paste is 13 bucks on amazon

crude lagoon
#

should i get mx4?

upper cobalt
#

yup

#

that’s the one i use

#

got it for like 7 bucks

crude lagoon
#

ic ic

#

should i use a tc spreader..?

upper cobalt
#

it comes with one

vocal sluice
crude lagoon
#

@upper cobalt like im playing val and max temp recorded by hwmonitor was 76c ;-;

upper cobalt
#

that seems pretty toasty

crude lagoon
#

lets not even get into cyberpunk... @upper cobalt

upper cobalt
#

i would stop playing if it gets over 85c

crude lagoon
#

yea i gotcha

#

for temp solution i'll just ramp up my fans more

upper cobalt
#

if you brush your teeth then blow into your fan yourself that should fix it for a while

earnest olive
#

@crude lagoon use hwinfo over hwmonitor

#

hwmonitor is bad

#

especially if you have ryzen chip

upper cobalt
#

thoughts?

vagrant olive
#

bit cheap

#

i'd recommend shelling out a few more bucks

#

get the top tier performance

upper cobalt
#

should i go for an epyc chip instead?

icy thunder
#

Anyone have any idea if this will all fit in this case?

earnest olive
#

@icy thunder 318mm gpu, 315mm case clearance

#

answer is no

#

also, you really do not need an X570 board

#

you are using exactly none of its features

icy thunder
#

like what

earnest olive
#

then again looks like you got it cheap enough anyways to not matter

icy thunder
#

yeah

earnest olive
#

you're only using 16 pcie 4 lanes

#

but at that price it's fine

#

sometimes you see people spending $250 on an X570 board for ryzen 5 3600 and 0 pcie 4 drives

#

anyways

#

no, that video card is too long for that case

#

if you have a confirmed order on the video card then you will want to change the case

icy thunder
#

it actually does fit in the case

#

i have everything

earnest olive
#

well

icy thunder
#

but theres no wiggle room whatsoever

earnest olive
#

i'm going off what the spec sheets say

icy thunder
#

yeah

earnest olive
#

it's possible they gave a tiny bit of extra headroom

#

if you can make it fit then good for you

icy thunder
#

i would have to move a fan in order to have it fit

earnest olive
#

oh yeah

#

315mm is with a 25mm fan installed iirc

icy thunder
#

yeah theres a fan right where the gpu goes

#

but it can be moved

#

but now i gotta figure out airflow

earnest olive
#

i suggest you buy a slim 15mm fan

icy thunder
#

i was really hoping to just use the stock ones lol

earnest olive
#

man

#

you have a 5800x and 3080

#

fans are not that expensive

#

you are rich might as well act the part

icy thunder
#

im not rich lol

#

just got no bills to pay

earnest olive
#

anyways

icy thunder
#

16 with a job

earnest olive
#

the included fan is 25mm

#

so you can put a 15mm fan there as intake instead

icy thunder
#

any fan recommendations?

earnest olive
icy thunder
#

also a case recommendation just in case

earnest olive
icy thunder
#

alright thanks

#

so that case would fit everything better

#

i find that odd how mid tower cases have different clearances

earnest olive
#

meshify c is REALLY small for a mid tower

icy thunder
#

apparently

earnest olive
#

most mid towers will fit 350mm+

#

meshify c is 315mm

#

lancool mesh 384mm

#

mine is 410mm

#

td500 mesh is a chonker though

icy thunder
#

would you suggest just getting the case instead?

earnest olive
#

if you already have the meshify c

#

it's up to you if you want to return it for a different one

#

or just buy a 15mm fan

icy thunder
#

alright

earnest olive
#

considering you spent 0 on rgb or custom cables

#

aesthetics probably not your priority

icy thunder
#

nah

#

just want it to work

earnest olive
#

so having a 15mm fan mismatching 25mm stock fan should be fine

icy thunder
#

right

earnest olive
#

put a 15mm fan next to gpu and move the stock fan up above it

#

then u got double intake too which is nice

icy thunder
#

right

earnest olive
#

also

#

definitely do not expect ram to work at xmp

#

you will have to tune it manually

icy thunder
#

lol yeah it is overkill

earnest olive
#

ryzen cpus not designed to work at 2200mhz fclk

#

you'll probably have to find somewhere 3800-4000 with manual tuning

#

but tighter timings

#

if the kits are rated for 4400C19 then 3800C16 should definitely be doable

icy thunder
#

yeah, im hoping i can find someone here to help me fine tune it when i build it

earnest olive
#

4000C16 might be possible if lucky

icy thunder
#

cause i got no idea how

#

the ram is apparently really good for overclocking

#

what does overclocking ram even do

earnest olive
#

go brr

icy thunder
#

oh of course

#

why didnt i think of that

earnest olive
#

thinking back to the dual core laptop i had when i was 16

icy thunder
#

ay man, it is what it is

#

also, do you know anyone here thats really good at fine tuning stuff?

#

cause ive got no clue how to do it

earnest olive
#

i'm good with cpu and gpu overclocking, not so much at ram

#

ram hardest

icy thunder
#

ive heard

#

alright, i will take your advice good man

earnest olive
#

i just used ryzen dram calculator for mine

#

and it gave me stable 3800C16 so i'm happy enough

#

from $68 3600C16 modules

#

i don't think it supports ryzen 5000 yet though

icy thunder
#

you talking about the automatic thingy?

#

where it does it all for you using benchmarks?

earnest olive
#

no

#

CTR is not good

icy thunder
#

wait, what im talking about is for cpu overclocking

earnest olive
#

it only makes your system "cinebench stable" not actually stable

icy thunder
#

am stupid

earnest olive
#

and you lose single core performance

#

on ryzen cpu is best left on PBO for gaming

#

all-core only good for productivity

icy thunder
#

i see

earnest olive
#

my 3600X on PBO with 360mm rad

#

does 4.45ghz on up to 2 cores while gaming

#

but in prime95 small ffts avx it drops to 4.15ghz @ 1.262V

#

while all core is stable in prime95 small ffts avx at 4.2ghz @ 1.238V

#

so all core can still push slightly higher than auto if you don't game

icy thunder
#

ive got a question

#

what is undervolting and what does it do

earnest olive
#

give cpu less voltage and see if it's still stable

#

you can drop temps/power usage/noise without losing performance

#

or sometimes even gain performance because the cpu uses the extra thermal headroom to boost more

icy thunder
#

imma need to do that for my gpu and cpu

#

hopefully

earnest olive
#

yeah both ryzen and 3080 are great undervolters

#

i tuned mine to -84mV

#

sadly haven't gotten a 3080 yet

icy thunder
#

that sounds good

bleak cedar
#

Are there any bottlenecks on my build: Ryzen 3700x, Asus TUF 3060ti, asus rog strix b550-E wifi, corsair vengeance rgb 3200 mhz, 500gb 970 evo plus nvme, 1tb 860 evo

earnest olive
#

i made it to checkout today and then newegg was like "yo wanna buy some masks"

#

so i lost my chance

icy thunder
#

that is so sad

earnest olive
#

it was the second best looking model (imo) too

#

the vision

icy thunder
bleak cedar
#

poggers

earnest olive
#

corsair ram bad

icy thunder
#

what do you think mr seductively?

#

besides brand

earnest olive
#

no like corsair ram can actually have worse performance

#

lol

#

at XMP is fine

#

but they're known to mix dies even in the same kit

#

which kills overclocking potential

bleak cedar
#

F

earnest olive
#

they're also overpriced as all hell while being an inferior product

bleak cedar
#

whats a bette choice?

icy thunder
#

what about patriot viper steel?

bleak cedar
#

also rgb is pog

earnest olive
#

if you want to stick with rgb

icy thunder
#

crucial good

earnest olive
#

alos has white ver

#

same price

icy thunder
#

what do you think about patriot viper steel?

earnest olive
#

good

icy thunder
#

nice

earnest olive
#

i would also swap the 860 evo for a team mp34 nvme 1tb

#

it's like $6 more

#

but you get another nvme drive instead of sata

#

if you're gaming try to get a 5600X over the 3700X

icy thunder
#

@bleak cedar he talking to you

bleak cedar
#

yeah

#

i got the 860 on a deal

earnest olive
#

if not, 10600K can be a valid consideration if you're gaming at 1080p

#

ah

bleak cedar
#

which is why i went for it

earnest olive
#

ok

bleak cedar
#

also

#

i have all the parts already

earnest olive
#

3700X falls behind 5600X and 10600K in 1080p gaming

bleak cedar
#

so uh

earnest olive
#

if it's 1440p then whatever

#

well

#

ask before you buy not after

#

no point to ask after buying

bleak cedar
#

well for future upgrade purposes

earnest olive
#

it's not bad besides the ram anyways

#

the ram is ok

bleak cedar
#

ty

earnest olive
#

not good

#

not terrible

bleak cedar
#

i appreciate your input

earnest olive
raven swift
#

Hey anyone own a B550 Aorus Master mobo? I got a question.

hasty bobcat
#

Corsair RGB ram bad. their vengance is okay, but honestly, stick with gskill damn it

little osprey
#

out of curiosity

#

what makes it bad ?

hasty bobcat
#

"they're known to mix dies even in the same kit"

read up

#

lmao

little osprey
#

alright

long berry
#

Which is better?
64GB DDR4-4000 CL16 RAM
or
128GB DDR4-4000 CL18 RAM

upper cobalt
#

better for what?

#

i mean id sacrifice a bit less latency for double the ram if for some reason the kits your buying are around the same price

wise swan
#

So I want to build a ps4 streaming pc with upgrade paths, budget before 500 ish, just hit me with what you got

little osprey
upper cobalt
#

Yup, are you gonna oc your cpu?

upper cobalt
fervent quail
#

Anyone tried 3d printing mods for their pc? Looking for some inspiration and also curious what material you used

long berry
upper cobalt
#

good quality, 25 bucks a pound

#

If i was gonna do some pc mods I would do maybe cable combs?

upper cobalt
#

just to clarify

little osprey
upper cobalt
#

why do you need an h100i?

#

for looks?

#

that’s understandable

little osprey
#

its a good cooler?

#

right?

upper cobalt
#

yes very good

#

well i’d recommend taking advantage of the overclocking since it’s a k cpu

little osprey
#

is that PC good for editing too?

#

1080p

little osprey
#

clock

open peak
#

Anyone know of any good linux compatible wireless pcle network adaptors for around 50-60 Australian dollars

upper cobalt
#

Lots of tutorials on it, it’s as simple as going into the bios and testing different settings for a stable clock

#

lots of tutorials and a overclocking channel if you need help

#

and yes your pc should be good for editing

ripe wedge
#

tuning takes a lil while

#

because if it isnt stable it will crash

#

ok i sleep

upper cobalt
#

gn

little osprey
upper cobalt
#

i would put the extra 100 toward a gpu instead

#

the 9600k is fine

little osprey
#

ok

#

idk

#

my budget is 1.1k

#

could u make me a list

upper cobalt
#

sure

#

@little osprey actually, do you have an idea of when your gonna build your pc?

#

are you gonna decide on the build and get your parts immediately?

little osprey
little osprey
#

just deciding what I am getting

upper cobalt
#

I’m sure someone could come up with better than me

#

but that’s an idea

#

wait for 3600 prices to calm down too

#

I just changed your graphics card processor and storage

little osprey
#

is the p2 faster than p1??? @upper cobalt

ripe wedge
#

P2 is garbage, don’t get it @little osprey

#

P1 is decent

little osprey
#

ah ok

upper cobalt
#

p2 is faster

#

do what jake says

swift citrus
#

I got board and made a new build, you guys have any thoughts?

upper cobalt
#

send it

swift citrus
#

My b on that last message that was some a discussion on the pcmr discord lol

little osprey
#

I am confused

#

so whats better

#

P1

#

or

#

P2

upper cobalt
#

p1

#

ig

ripe wedge
#

P2 is dramless

#

Which is awful for a boot drive

#

I’d suggest MP34, SN750, P1, or 970 evo (if on sale)

swift citrus
#

Would recommend

ripe wedge
#

Yeah it’s pretty good

#

I have the SN750 which is pretty good too

swift citrus
ripe wedge
#

Also @swift citrus your Pc build list is pretty good.

upper cobalt
#

i meant the prices my bad

#

it is a good build

swift citrus
ripe wedge
#

Yea list is fine but prices rn wack

swift citrus
#

I’m currently in the middle of an x99 to Zen 5000 transition

#

That’s the build Id be doing if I was building new right now. Unfortunately, that’s way too much hassle

ripe wedge
#

Btw the 3080 is amazing

tender fjord
#

Should I get the 3070 or the 3060 ti

ripe wedge
#

What’s ur current gpu?

upper cobalt
#

yeah we know

ripe wedge
#

@tender fjord which ever you can get ur hands on

upper cobalt
#

yeah whichever

ripe wedge
#

3070 better choice but if u can get a 3060 ti at msrp it’s fine

upper cobalt
#

if you can get either at msrp i’d go for the 3060 ti

ripe wedge
#

I mean

#

It’s $100 difference

tender fjord
#

100 bucks more for 10fps more

ripe wedge
#

10fps might be worth it to some people

swift citrus
upper cobalt
#

private list

swift citrus
#

My b one sec

tender fjord
#

But what if I play the strenuous game that gets me 25fps on the 3060 ti and 35 on the 3070

little osprey
#

should I get a HDD?

tender fjord
#

That's what I'm worried about

upper cobalt
#

like what?

upper cobalt
swift citrus
#

Fixed

little osprey
upper cobalt
#

oh then yes

ripe wedge
#

Ssd is mandatory in 2020 for boot drive

#

Lol

little osprey
#

idk

#

if I need a HDD

#

if I am getting 1TB SSD

ripe wedge
#

Hdd is fine

upper cobalt
#

how much storage do you need

#

well i would recommend one if your gonna be making videos streaming etc

ripe wedge
#

If u have a big library that 1tb will fill fast

upper cobalt
#

you might need a bit more space

little osprey
#

if I get a HDD what should I put it in it

ripe wedge
#

Just games, maybe files

#

Not apps really tbh

#

Depends on what u use ur pc for

swift citrus
ripe wedge
#

Ur anime collections PepeShrug

little osprey
#

no hell no

#

I aint putting games on HDD

tight sorrel
ripe wedge
#

Smaller games like 20gb are fine on hdd

little osprey
#

u get better performance on fn in SSD

ripe wedge
#

Larger than that they aren’t amazing

#

Yeah

#

Of course

little osprey
#

Yeah

ripe wedge
#

You can put your main games on ssd

#

And other games on hdd

little osprey
#

would minecraft be fine on HDD?

ripe wedge
#

Yea

tight sorrel
#

I might need to wait a little longer to load the game... but is it really that much of a difference? especially considering the price difference?

ripe wedge
#

Unless u run 100 mods lmao

upper cobalt
little osprey
#

its not only about faster @tight sorrel

#

and if I am late I need to load fast

swift citrus
# upper cobalt really solid

My x99 build has lasted me a nice long time too, I’m really happy with what I got out of it. 5000 series just seemed like a great time to try team red

tight sorrel
#

oh, ok. I get it. you like pro/smi pro? then I can imagine that an SSD would definitely worth to you

upper cobalt
#

you know where your gonna get a 5900? lol

little osprey
swift citrus
little osprey
#

semi

swift citrus
#

I live right near a microcenter lol

little osprey
#

lucky @swift citrus

upper cobalt
#

nice!

little osprey
#

we dont even have micro center in EU 😭

upper cobalt
#

i live near the tustin micro center

#

literally nothing

tight sorrel
swift citrus
#

There’s a whole community that camps out around it waiting for products on shipment days

upper cobalt
#

yup

#

multiple blocks

little osprey
#

oof africa

tight sorrel
#

what? No NewEgg ? wtf? know the feeling bro

swift citrus
little osprey
#

we have other stores

#

but like it isnt like microcenter

#

its more online tbf

upper cobalt
#

the 3070 and 3080 launches at my micro center had 200+ people

upper cobalt
little osprey
swift citrus
swift citrus
upper cobalt
#

wow that’s really nice of him

#

i’d want a little extra imo for waiting

#

good dude

swift citrus
#

He got his 5950x and just hasn’t installed it and offered me his 5900x

#

And I jumped on it

upper cobalt
#

wow

#

a 5900 to hold him over

swift citrus
#

Lmao right

#

Microcenter be W I L D

#

he camps out no lie

upper cobalt
#

you have everything else ready?

swift citrus
#

Almost

upper cobalt
#

usually people will come a day before launch expecting it to be like 50 people

swift citrus
upper cobalt
#

good luck finding everything!

swift citrus
#

Ram and Motherboard

#

I can wait on the 3080 for now there’s rumors the ti is gonna launch months ahead of time

#

Typically it’s like a year later

#

But the rumors are in late January

upper cobalt
#

yup, estimates are 1300 dollars right now

little osprey
#

There is a 970 evo 1TB for 119

#

thats good right?

upper cobalt
#

gonna be a beast

#

uhh

#

yeah i’ll check

little osprey
#

could someone rank from the worst to the best: SN750, MP34, P1, 970 EVO

sinful hornet
#

sn750 is the best of those im pretty sure

swift citrus
little osprey
#

can u rank them so I can know please @sinful hornet

upper cobalt
upper cobalt
swift citrus
#

Maybe, I run 3440x1440 on a 1080ti

little osprey
#

could someone rank from the worst to the best: SN750, MP34, P1, 970 EVO

swift citrus
swift citrus
little osprey
#

idk how to do that

hollow grail
#

970 evo

#

on top

#

everything else below that

upper cobalt
swift citrus
hollow grail
#

and theyre the same price so why bother looking further than that

little osprey
#

no they aint same price lmfao

hollow grail
#

theyre close enough

swift citrus
little osprey
#

where do I check speeds

hollow grail
#

dw abt it

#

look the mp34 is $106

swift citrus
hollow grail
#

the 970 is 129

#

id rather spend an extra $23 and know im getting samsungs high binned nand with their controller and their warranty

#

thats what i mean when i say theyre around the same

#

a lot of value on samsungs nand

little osprey
#

Good enough?

hollow grail
#

that works yeah

#

tbh my experiences with crucial have been very meh

#

and idk why ur going last gen here

#

why a 9600k and a 2060?

little osprey
#

prices

hollow grail
#

if it were me id spend more to get more

#

but i know that isnt an option sometimes

little osprey
#

why

#

I cant get more

#

my budget is 1.1k

upper cobalt
#

the h100i is really taking up a lot of your budget

little osprey
#

what should I get instead theN?

hollow grail
#

anything else lol

upper cobalt
#

idk like a hyper 212 evo and try to get an 8gb card?

#

just not an h100i

#

your cooler shouldn’t cost as much as your cpu

little osprey
#

ah

hollow grail
#

yeah ur build screams corsair fanboy lmao

#

id drop the watercooler and the fans tbh

little osprey
#

Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition?

upper cobalt
#

yup

hollow grail
#

yea

little osprey