aero15
#building-and-recc-chat
tiny depot
hollow grail
lol i used to get in games with him all the time
astral swift
his malding is funny
hollow grail
he called me a soap bar
tiny depot
definetly aero15 for that pricwe
astral swift
is there Clevo that delivers in NA
tiny depot
^
hollow grail
xotic does NA
im gonna be honest the only gigabyte laptop ive ever worked on was one that was less than 2 years old
board failure
tiny depot
OOF
hollow grail
literally all my laptops have been clevo machines
tiny depot
my dell g7 has been ensalved for 2.5 yrs and its running like a charm
hollow grail
this legion im using rn is my first non clevo device
see thats alright except
the board is upside down
so good luck repasting
hollow grail
fr i had to do a g7
astral swift
are there 1 or 2 m.2 slots on clevo/tongfang chassis?
tiny depot
and ya, i know its upside down haha
tiny depot
thats why i dont want to repaste
astral swift
damn lol
tiny depot
just gonna give laptop to mother once my pc is built, she just watches netflix and uses Facebook
hollow grail
you can go nuts with clevo
im gonna be honest like
can u spend ummmmm
1.5?
if you care more abt portable power and less so about like
astral swift
i mean if im spending 1.5 id just get a gs66
hollow grail
actual portability
no listen
desktop ryzen
in a laptop
clevo is nuts lol
i was so close to getting a 10900k laptop from them
astral swift
i need one that's lasting me all of uni so i'll likely carry it around
astral swift
and when im in my dorm i'll just have an external monitor
hollow grail
if it were me id get something that could like
astral swift
yeah i dont mind the performance, as long as it suffices
tiny depot
unless u actually do science and engineering
hollow grail
be easily repaired
tiny depot
i absolutely needed my g7 for school
hollow grail
so no razer
and less gigabyte imo
not to say theyre not good machines
its just that there are 0 parts
tiny depot
took ages to run simulations for astrophysics
tiny depot
if u have a monitor, do you have peripherals already?
hollow grail
one of these should suit you well
im an extreme power user and i love mine to death
very picky with laptops
astral swift
im not a sucker for the extruding back grills lol
astral swift
yes
verbal quarry
lol
tiny depot
"better" cooling
astral swift
i'd prefer a laptop that's like below 4.5 pounds if im honest lol, stuff adds up quick in a backpack
hollow grail
lets the screen come closer to you
i feel you im super mobile
just saying i am extremely happy with my legion
tiny depot
dude, just build a normal PC for like $900-$1000 and spend rest on a chromebook
hollow grail
keyboard is excellent as well
astral swift
like if lenovo had pretty smaller form factor and sacrificed thermals id definitely consider it more
hollow grail
yeah gaming laptops are nice but
they dont age the best
i prefer for my laptop to not melt itself lul
astral swift
the only reason why im considering the blade 15 and the gs66 is because of the form factor
upper cobalt
is apevia a trustworthy psu brand?
tiny depot
the heck is that brand lol
astral swift
yeah but im probably not gonna have that much time to game in college tbf so it'll mostly be there for day-to-day work
tiny depot
never heard of them
upper cobalt
they have like 70 dollar 80 plus gold psus
tiny depot
here's an important question @astral swift , are you going into freshman year? and what are you going to school for?
astral swift
going into freshmen year, planning on majoring in either neuroscience or econ
tiny depot
you dont need a gaming laptop bruh
upper cobalt
astral swift
id rather not build one in my dorm for gaming though lol
verbal quarry
never seen a reason for gaming laptops unless you travel alot
tiny depot
like i said previously, the only people tht actually need them, are the ones doing serious swcience and engineering
hollow grail
gaming laptops are nice if you need a lot of power
vagrant olive
neuroscience
hollow grail
its nice pumping out encodes on a laptop
astral swift
i mean neural engineering is always an option lol
tiny depot
dude, a bachelors in that field is nothing
astral swift
most unis these days let you change your major like clothes
tiny depot
get a good pc later if u do that, u dont need it now
hollow grail
if you just want me to point you at a laptop get the aero
since you want a gaming thin and light
astral swift
alr thanks
hollow grail
which are 2 things that dont go together at all
upper cobalt
if your gonna change your major “like clothes” you better have a pretty big trust fund
tiny depot
ya, if u just want a finger point, the aero 15 is best, but i dont think its the best idea for you to get it
vagrant olive
ill sell u my 3 year old alienware gaming laptop with a loud fan and the keycap missing on the right bracket and w key, and the 3, 5, and period key dont work
hollow grail
lmao what cpu/gpu
tiny depot
g7?
hollow grail
ill give u $250 for it 
vagrant olive
3090 or no deal
astral swift
@upper cobalt i mean you can take a lot of the required courses if you switch majors at your local uni
if the credits transfer
vagrant olive
the sad part is i got it when i had a large amount of money saved and was absolutely deadbrained
$1300
hollow grail
laptop? you mean ssh terminal with a battery?
vagrant olive
for this piece of crap
astral swift
i mean it's lasted 3 years i guess
hollow grail
gaming laptops are great tbh
vagrant olive
kind of
hollow grail
dell makes some alright laptops too
tiny depot
my 8750h is busted bruh, i feel u
vagrant olive
it served me well for like the first
year
but after that it just went ded
i could hardly run anything
hollow grail
my 8750h loves me uwu
astral swift
yeah id buy the new xps 15 if it wasn't 1899 lmao
hollow grail
yeah you need to repaste stuff constantly
vagrant olive
since its a discontinued model
hollow grail
lmao imagine spending $150 to replace a $8 part
tiny depot
dell gave bios update and i cant undervolt anymore so is HOT
hollow grail
hollow grail
what model is it
vagrant olive
die
tiny depot
LUL
verbal quarry
i have a question
hollow grail
tiny depot
wat
tiny depot
no idea lol
verbal quarry
note: the thing was a bit bigger then a half dollar coin
vagrant olive
aliexpress
hollow grail
imagine hating on aliexpress
this is why you ended up spending $150 to fix a $10 part
brazen slate
so is there actually a way to acquire a 3060 ti without buying from a scalper?
hollow grail
no
tiny depot
ya, its called patience
hollow grail
just spend a week staring at a refresh bot
vagrant olive
no
tiny depot
spam refresh button or wait for restock within a few months
vagrant olive
there isnt
hollow grail
time to get the good warranty for my laptop
ive decided im keeping it
so time to get 4 year adp
verbal quarry
ooo
brazen slate
so is there other ways to buy it other than ebay?
hollow grail
i got a 2080 laptop for $1200 kek
tiny depot
yeah, seriously, just wait
tiny depot
no need to rush
hollow grail
literally the best deal ive seen tbh
astral swift
7i?
verbal quarry
really is
tiny depot
OOF
tiny depot
not the best cpu, from my experience
hollow grail
this is literally for when i visit family
plus this one is properly cooled
and the motherboard isnt flipped
astral swift
how long have you had it
hollow grail
takes me 15 mins to repaste
tiny depot
D:
tiny depot
how much paste u use on laptop repaste?
hollow grail
not too much tbh
tiny depot
i might repaste this G7 b4 giving to mother
tiny depot
hold my beer
hollow grail
and ive been working with laptops for years lul
but
not too much
just cover the entire die on the cpu and ur good
tiny depot
u rub it in to cover all? or just a little drop then spread on its own?
tiny depot
ya i know lmao
hollow grail
as well as some other stuff
tiny depot
dirtbags
fossil halo
is there a way to make them so that they automatically stay in the mobo sync mode
tiny depot
ya, i got all i need from the vids i've seen
fossil halo
not always default to the manual mode when i reboot
tiny depot
just need to watch a vid on the process
little osprey
Anyone have a idea why my computer restarts randomly and then once it restarts it loads to the windows loading screen then reboots again and again
hollow grail
reinstall time
fossil halo
lol
tiny depot
^
little osprey
Reinstall windows?
hollow grail
yep
tiny depot
CMOS
hollow grail
hope u have a backup
tiny depot
or reinstall
hollow grail
do cmos first
tiny depot
^
little osprey
I turned the reset off when it has issues
To try and figure out what the problem is
tiny depot
back up everything while u can
fading matrix
you guys think i could salvage a sound card that blew something on the pcb
tiny depot
no idea what that fan even is lul
hollow grail
cheap gamer rgb fans
severe axle
those uphere ones have pretty low airflow
hollow grail
i wanna do a purple build for my next pc
planning to ball the hell out when i get new job
want dual 3090 
dual 3090 epyc build when
agile folio
speaking of fans, any good rbg 120mm fans for a decent price
hollow grail
ruth bader ginsburg is dead
but luckily, rgb fans exist
cooler master makes some alright ones
depends on what kind of rgb you want
agile folio
wym like argb or rgb?
hollow grail
theres ring rgb
wow their site is not having a good time rn
or theres "whole fan rgb" as i like to call it
like this
i rly like these lian li fans tbh, will probably end up with one of these for next build
agile folio
yea probably whole rgb
here
considering i already have corsair fans would it be a pain to mix and match brands?
agile folio
what are you looking for gaming or work
little cradle
is in the middle ok?
agile folio
yea, but also keep in mind pc part prices are insanely high right now
little cradle
fr i checked
agile folio
u might want to wait till January to build/order your parts
little cradle
that was my plan
agile folio
i can try and make something but dont mind the price to much
little cradle
sure
little cradle
no
prime orchid
Can someone take a look at a list I just put together for a first time builder? Want some advice on what could be improved or changed.
agile folio
@prime orchid send ur list
@little cradle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jDskgt
people in here will probably critique to be better
but i think its pretty decent
prime orchid
agile folio
yea youll probably be able to find cheaper 2070 super
little cradle
depends on if my budget changes also
agile folio
@prime orchid budget?
prime orchid
I have a 5600x coming in luckily lol but for everything else. About $1000
agile folio
maybe to be safe i would get a 750w psu
and yea @little cradle if you can get a rtx 3060 for retail that would be good
agile folio
then yea youll be fine
vagrant olive
yeah it will be
dw
oh yeah if ur not oc'ing then 650 will be great
omg my internet is so bad
agile folio
you can find 750w psu for around the price that is 80+ gold
vagrant olive
just bought the mobo for my build, first actual step made towards my first build
pogging hard rn
aorus pro ac lookin fresh wit dat integrated wifi
muted sluice
So I made fans really quiet and now all I hear is the pump
ripe wedge
one of my fans has a slight rattle sometimes
its not too bad tho
if it does get bad tho ill just replace it 
cheap
muted sluice
I have all of my fans at 500 rpm and there magnetic
muted sluice
Corsair
hollow grail
idk why i just always hated corsair
muted sluice
I have 2 other fans that are Corsair sp fans and there also super quiet
muted sluice
Why?
ripe wedge
corsair makes good psus
hollow grail
i have never bought a single component from them besides their ssd
i love their rgb lol
i just dont know why i hate them
i love their ssds to death tho
muted sluice
There rgb number 1
ripe wedge
riasroc
ripe wedge
75% rn at 2200rpm
muted sluice
Nice
muted sluice
ripe wedge
nice me too
muted sluice
Offset?
ripe wedge
5.1ghz all core at 1.38v
hollow grail
5.1 gang
ripe wedge
I havent played around much with mine
prolly could fine tune it better
just havent felt like it
muted sluice
Nah it’s cause of my avx I think it’s called
It lowers the clock down
Mine will lower to 4.9 under full load
muted sluice
I could do that but I don’t like playing with volts over 1.36
muted sluice
Same
Here’s a fun fact. Electricity actually has weight and that’s why parts in a system die overtime.
ripe wedge
yeah im sure its really good
I was a bigger fan of this mobo tho because of the extra m.2 slot lmao and some other stuff
muted sluice
Nice
ripe wedge
huge chonker heatsinks
ripe wedge
uh I cant remember let me check
muted sluice
Alright
ripe wedge
I cant find out lol
muted sluice
@ripe wedge nvm I looked at the board. I like the look of it
tardy nexus
Hello
ripe wedge
hi
muted sluice
12+1 I think
tardy nexus
How chu
muted sluice
Pretty good
tardy nexus
How u like my pc
tardy nexus
Heh
muted sluice
Nvm
tardy nexus
Tbh i had the mother bord for a year or two so idk
muted sluice
I am actully gonna save tha no 🧢
tardy nexus
@muted sluice i think its an e
muted sluice
We have the same mobo then
tardy nexus
Noice
muted sluice
Nice
ripe wedge
same model ish
muted sluice
With same rgb
ripe wedge
if he said 2 years
muted sluice
Ok it’s like a couple months old
ripe wedge
im going to sleep
tardy nexus
@muted sluice well covid makes it feel longer
muted sluice
Good night
muted sluice
Yea got a 16 gig 3200 kit
tardy nexus
Im planning on upgrade to 4x32
tardy nexus
Yep
tardy nexus
@little osprey
@muted sluice this is my sitem Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7GHz
32GB RAM, 4TB HDD, 1TB SSD
ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080Ti 11GB
inner mortar
3600 or 5600 for budget gaming?
open peak
Would I be fine not screwing in the middle screw on the top of the motherboard, it's an mATX board with a pretty large air cooler, and the standoff is a bit crooked (can't really fix that) so I don't want to try force the screw in.
tardy nexus
@open peak hmmmm if u think that u can get away with it then try it but if u are worryed ask for more options so u have a better idea of what to do
@fast dust
inner mortar
Would I be fine not screwing in the middle screw on the top of the motherboard, ...
hot glue fixes anything ;)
inner mortar
just run the pc laying down xD
open peak
Seems to be all good, barely flexes at all
I'll just keep an eye on it for the next hour to make sure it's all good
Actually on that note, how much flex is to much?
I would say it's only flexing like 3mm max
little osprey
is there a big noticeable difference between the Crucial P1 and MP34?
fallen escarp
fans came in today :)
little osprey
nice!
WHAT LMAO
I am watching a vid that compares the 970 evo plus and crucial P1 Loading fortnite time and crucial P1 is faster 💀
quaint jay
Yo whered the build pics channel go
inner mortar
stoic island
@fallen escarp just checking, you know 5v pwm is different from the standard 12v from mobo fan headers right?
hallow bridge
Flight sims are going to be cpu intensive. However you will need a good gpu as well. What flight simulator are you looking at? X-Plane, MS?
ivory beacon
Not sure which one. I'm helping my buddy
stoic island
FS2020?
ivory beacon
My friend just went into a meeting. I'll ask him when he comes out
hallow bridge
There are some good articles out there with some benchmarking in FS2020. You'll likely want to have minimum 16 gb ram, an 8 core processor(min), and a decent graphics card if you want to achieve good frame rates and decent graphics settings.
arctic jungle
mm
hallow bridge
The minimum system requirements are pretty low, however that will just get you flying. I personally like the immersion with higher graphics settings.
hallow bridge
I don't even know if the newest stuff can run FS2020 on 4k with anything left for frames lol
little osprey
ivory beacon
@stoic island fsb2020 he's got controller, pedals and throttle
Fs 2020
Needs a good gpu
tardy nexus
Hi
stoic island
@ivory beacon what's the budget?
tardy nexus
Who likes my pc???
gleaming quartz
it looks nice
gleaming quartz
i like the loop you have set up
tardy nexus
Tbh ill show thw wireing when im home for u
vivid wolf
I am watching a vid that compares the 970 evo plus and crucial P1 Loading fortni...
What?? Fortnite! Thats crazy bro
ivory beacon
@stoic island keeping it under 2k
gleaming quartz
oh wow
gleaming quartz
<@278694081440251905> keeping it under 2k
just for the gpu or in general?
ivory beacon
Total
gleaming quartz
oh ok
vivid wolf
It was probably a minor difference that has nothing to do with the ssd, just luck. Games have a bandwidth cap so any ssd wit like say 700 mbps and above will have the same results (given a minor difference every time)
little osprey
<@456226577798135808> prob just run to run variation
What
tardy nexus
Who is good at makeing the rgb lighting stuff
little osprey
Didnt understand one thing @stoic island
ivory beacon
Rgb controller?@tardy nexus
gleaming quartz
Who is good at makeing the rgb lighting stuff
as in physically with strip rgbs or software-wise?
lol
hes too desperate
ivory beacon
🤕
little osprey
ikr
gleaming quartz
im gonna join just to see what tf it is
vivid wolf
U have 1 member stop
tardy nexus
@ivory beacon dm
gleaming quartz
wish me luck
vivid wolf
Hahah lol lmao hehe rofl
gleaming quartz
he probably deleted it
tardy nexus
@gleaming quartz as in the corsera control pannle
gleaming quartz
ah i see
for me i like just keeping all of my motherboard controlled lights on a static color
ivory beacon
So for the sim I want to go with intel ye?
arctic jungle
for me i like just keeping all of my motherboard controlled lights on a static c...
woooooooooooooooooot
gleaming quartz
yes.
tardy nexus
@gleaming quartz dm
arctic jungle
whyyy
not pog
like
if ur mobo has ugly rgb like asrock non-partner and ur not using razer, then yeah... but static mobo rgb? that just messes up the rest of the system
it's either rgb match, or rgb off
tender fjord
are 2 case fans enough for a 2 fan 3060 ti
example if I'm getting a fractal meshify c case
are the 2 case fans in i t enough for a 2 fan 3060 ti
gleaming quartz
it's either rgb match, or rgb off
for me its literally just my motherboard's lighting that i can change and that everything connected to my mobo gets set to the same lighting
wanton cliff
how do I keep the price of a 3090 + 5950x build below 4k (disregarding storage, which I already have)
this is my build right now
I want to try and keep it below 4k
gleaming quartz
why do you need 2 monitors, for one.
wanton cliff
purchased already
gleaming quartz
ah ok
wanton cliff
so it doesnt matter
gleaming quartz
what do you have already
wanton cliff
everything that says 'purchased'
wanton cliff
whats good for a 3090?
gleaming quartz
i would say around 1100 or 1000w
foggy hazel
850watt is more than enough
wanton cliff
jeez 1k watt psus are a lot cheaper
foggy hazel
3070/3080/3090 = 650/750/850
wanton cliff
I also have a 5950x with this build, which only uses about 105w but still
foggy hazel
@wanton cliff mainly because the ones you are looking at are low quality
gleaming quartz
also why do you need 128gbs of ram @wanton cliff
wanton cliff
Better to have more than you need than not have enough
altho 64gb is probs enough
EVGA G1+?
1k watt and 80+ gold
gleaming quartz
just do 900w
foggy hazel
g1+ is a B tier unit
gleaming quartz
or 850 like naed said
wanton cliff
G3?
foggy hazel
i was just repeating the recommended numbers
wanton cliff
It is good to go above reccommended with Ampere
foggy hazel
not really
wanton cliff
well, better safe than sorry
foggy hazel
better actually understand the "why" vs just mindlessly buying something
wanton cliff
Im not mindlessly buying anything, as shown by the fact that I am putting it up here first
gleaming quartz
yeah theres a difference between 'recommended' and 'minimum' requirements
wanton cliff
oh yeah
wanton cliff
2018 RMx?
foggy hazel
people constantly misunderstand how PSU's actually work
and what it means with actual quality components
see the pins
wanton cliff
like the difference between an RMx vs RM psu from Corsair
tender fjord
are 2 case fans enough for a 2 fan 3060 ti
example if I'm getting a fractal meshify c case
are the 2 case fans in i t enough for a 2 fan 3060 ti
foggy hazel
yes @tender fjord
tender fjord
will I get sub 60 temps
gleaming quartz
that is mostly based on your cpu cooler im pretty sure
foggy hazel
it does not matter if you do or not @tender fjord
the gpu and cpu are both fine at those low temps
they are made to handle way higher temps
tender fjord
no ik it can handle them
but my fans are gonna be really loud
and I hate having loud fans
foggy hazel
just throttle your fans
tender fjord
how is that 1800
foggy hazel
pcpp list link instead @ivory beacon ?
tender fjord
is that seriously 1800
foggy hazel
because there are a bunch of things that make no sense, price wise in that list
tender fjord
with those parts
cursive magnet
1,000$ for a 2070. Insanity!!!!
tender fjord
send the pcpp link
little osprey
for me its literally just my motherboard's lighting that i can change and that e...
what mobo is that
that u sent in the pic
ivory beacon
App won't let me share link
gleaming quartz
its kind of mediocre but it works i guess so whatever
tender fjord
don't pay 1000 for a 2070
ivory beacon
Yes No Yes? TOTAL : $1,868
Intel Core i5-9600K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 4.6 GHz Turbo unlocked LGA1151 300 Series 95W Coffeelake $ $196
GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS ULTRA (Intel LGA1151/Z390/ATX/3xM.2 Thermal Guard/Onboard AC Wi-Fi/RGB Fusion/Gaming Motherboard) DDR4 $ $248
Gigabyte GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC 8G Graphics Card, 3X Windforce Fans, 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6, Video Card $ $999
G.Skill 32GB DDR4 PC4-28800 3600MHz Ripjaws V for Intel CL16 (16-19-19-39) Dual Channel kit (2x16GB) Black $ $149
Silicon Power 1TB - NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen3x4 2280 TLC SSD (SP001TBP34A60M28) $ $92
Seasonic FOCUS GX-650, 650W 80+ Gold, Full-Modular, Fan Control in Fanless, Silent, and Cooling Mode, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application, SSR-650FX. $ $125
Phanteks Eclipse P300A (PH-EC300ATG_BK01) high airflow full-metal mesh design, compact ATX Mid-tower, 120mm black case fan, Black $ $59
By PC Builder http://bit.ly/2BF4Qi9
foggy hazel
take that app, and throw it as far away as you can
tender fjord
yeah
gleaming quartz
pc builder
tender fjord
don't ever spend 1000 on a 20 series gpu
foggy hazel
https://pcpartpicker.com/ <- just use that directly in a browser
because you actually end up with links that you can share
that make sense to people
gleaming quartz
true true
tender fjord
wth
foggy hazel
and its not that the 1000 for the 2070Super is unheard of, its just reality of old stock and vendors marking up like crazy
ivory beacon
tender fjord
the enthusiast pc is such a good pc for 1300
it's perfect
oh wait price for the ryzen 5 5600x is unavailable
opal stratus
USB or pcie for WiFi?
opal stratus
Anything in particular you’d recommend?
Msi B450 tomahawk max
I got dis
Well my friend does actually lol
fair birch
the Brostrend AC5 has a lot of good ratings on pcpp and its only 16 bucks
no complaints about latency and such
little osprey
mortar max b450
is it good?
gleaming quartz
yeah ig
little osprey
I like the rgb on it
fair birch
np
gleaming quartz
I like the rgb on it
even though you can barely see it normally 
little osprey
even though you can barely see it normally <:LO:748750126138392657>
Is the B550M good?
gleaming quartz
i would assume so
gleaming quartz
that’s supposed to be the mb lighting
fair birch
that’s supposed to be the mb lighting
lol
gleaming quartz
but yeah otherwise its pretty serviceable, it has lots of ports on the back, 4 pcie slots, and 4 ram slots
theres more but i forgot what it is
oh yeah and 4 SATA ports with an m.2 port
heres the link if you're intrested @little osprey
little osprey
aight ty
dawn cosmos
Good morning! I am trying to upgrade from an i3 to an i5 and I was redirected here from the support chat. I can post my specs. I am really trying to upgrade to something that will be compatible with what i've already got built
fair birch
Good morning! I am trying to upgrade from an i3 to an i5 and I was redirected he...
Yeah pls post your specs
Also are you going to change your motherboard
spare crown
Yes No Yes? TOTAL : $1,868
Intel Core i5-9600K Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to...
dont do i5 do i7 atleast also dpnt buy a 2070 get a 3060 ti its 399$ and is bettter than 2080 super
dawn cosmos
Processor:
Intel® Core™ i3-7100 Processor (2x 3.90GHz/3MB L3 Cache)
Motherboard:
MSI B250 PC Mate -- 2x PCIe x16, 2x USB 3.1 Gen2(Type A+Type C), 4x USB 3.1 Gen1, 2x USB 2.0 [Intel Optane Ready]
Memory:
16 GB installed
Video Card:
NVIDIA GEFORCE TUF GAMING 1650 OC 4G
Case Lighting:
iBUYPOWER RGB Lighting - [FREE] 1 RGB Lighting Strip
Power Supply:
600 Watt - 80 PLUS Gold Certified
CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid Cooling System - Standard 120mm Fan
Primary Hard Drive:
1 TB Hard Drive with 1TB 2nd hardrive
iBUYPOWER Gaming Optical Mouse - Multi-Color LED Lighting
Operating System:
Windows 10 Home - (64-bit)
dawn cosmos
Also are you going to change your motherboard
I would like to JUST get the processor if I can get one that is compatible.
I was sent this one a while back when he said I would need to upgrade at some point. But support said that could be a year from then (October at the time).
foggy hazel
those things are not compatible @dawn cosmos
foggy hazel
not that particular one, but something that supports that cpu
dawn cosmos
How do I know what is compatible?
foggy hazel
you trust tools like pcpartpicker, or you do a bunch of research
fair birch
and go to system builder
foggy hazel
@fair birch just add "/list" to your link :)
dawn cosmos
I did not know that existed
fair birch
yeah its very helpful
lapis flicker
Just did my first build but not able to get it to post asrock pro4-F with ryzen 3800x. The asrock box said it is ryzen 3000 series ready so I don't think it is the bios.
Connected both the DVI and VGA to monitors, nothing shows up there and I don't hear any beeps, and it reboots in about 10 seconds. I don't think the case has a speaker unless it is something that isn't mentioned. It's a carbide 100R.
Only other noteworthy thing is the and fan spins for a second but then stops. RGB is still going. Not sure if the fan stops because it isn't hot at all yet.
fair birch
Just did my first build but not able to get it to post asrock pro4-F with ryzen ...
which asrock
lapis flicker
Any help is appreciated
fair birch
like b450?
lapis flicker
Asrock b450m pro4
foggy hazel
@lapis flicker where exactly is the monitors connected?
fair birch
ok the motherboard is good
lapis flicker
VGA and DVI off the mobo
foggy hazel
that does not work
ivory beacon
foggy hazel
you need a GPU
fair birch
yeah...
lapis flicker
Didn't work when I had my video cards in it either
foggy hazel
you need a gpu installed and powered, and plugged into it
ivory beacon
Ok are the two storage units needed?
lapis flicker
Sorry 1
fair birch
ok
foggy hazel
the mainboard will NOT work at anypoint as a output source with that particular CPU
dawn cosmos
are CPU and processor coolers the same thing?
fair birch
CPU and Processor are the same thing
ivory beacon
@spare crown what do you think?
odd crypt
Hey guys
deep skiff
the cpu and processor are the same, the cooler coolers the cpu/processor
spare crown
@ivory beacon I think its overpriced
dawn cosmos
so on that site you sent me, I cannot find my CPU cooler. Do I just skip that or is that a required part for the system builder?
fair birch
What's a good budget of 600$
like a list under 600?
spare crown
@ivory beacon u could get a 3070 build out of 1800$
ivory beacon
The new list I posted?
foggy hazel
@dawn cosmos just skip for now
spare crown
@ivory beacon 1080 ti switch it for 3070
deep skiff
key word is for now tho if you try to build one without it wont be a fun experience
vital warren
you could get a 3070 build out of 1k
ivory beacon
For fs2020 ?
vital warren
could do 3080 + r5 5600x for 1500
stoic island
@little osprey theres a crap ton of small factors that affect testing
spare crown
@vital warren if u need the best build of 3070 its 1800 @vital warren
stoic island
therefore every run varies
spare crown
unless u going for a cheap one
vital warren
not even close luck
stoic island
because of the tiny variations
vital warren
if you want a 5600x - maybe 1200 for that and a 3070
1800 is too much for a 3070 build
spare crown
@vital warren u need to account for other things
vital warren
unless you have an o11 and want to spend a kidney on fans
ivory beacon
I want to keep it under 2k
fallen escarp
<@279395844669702144> just checking, you know 5v pwm is different from the stand...
no :D
ivory beacon
1800 sounds really good
vital warren
i'll send an example for something at 1k
lapis flicker
I plugged my video cards back in and have it connected to the 8 pins for it (6+2) and nothing gets outputted to the monitor. 1660ti
vital warren
spare crown
also motherboard lol
vital warren
^this works fine
if you want to spend 1800 on a 3070 build, go ahead and burn that money lol
lapis flicker
Fans on the video card do spin
ivory beacon
Well I want to he able to upgrade it in the future
stoic island
if you have any 5v headers, you might be able to use it, but you won't be able to use normal 12v fan headers
vital warren
can still keep it well under 2000 with good upgradability
stoic island
there's a difference between the normal pwm model and the 5v pwm model
ivory beacon
And need it to run fs2020 on high or max graphics
fallen escarp
oh
vital warren
what resolution?
spare crown
@vital warren might need a better power supply
fallen escarp
i'll check in with the mobo i chose, thanks @stoic island
stoic island
:)
spare crown
if ur gunna oc
spare crown
the build from dwella @stoic island
ivory beacon
1920 x 1080?? Not sure tbh
stoic island
the card draws like 250w OCed
that's just 30w on top of the estimated tdp
so uh
yea
stoic island
you know 3600 is a 65w rated chip, pretty sure PL is like 87w, 105w is max it could be
too lazy to check
either way
that brings total power usage to less than 500w still
dawn cosmos
I cannot find the specific specs for my hard drive on that system builder? What do I need for it so i know what to look for. I have my GPU, CPU, Memory, and power supply
oh wait
I get it now
i choose from what i have then plug in the parts i want to upgrade to. Right?
dawn cosmos
yeah i got the motherboard. Storage i don't know my exact brand
stoic island
@dawn cosmos can you share your list?
dawn cosmos
The list from sytem builder on pc picker? Or my specs from the PC
little osprey
stoic island
pcpp list
tardy nexus
Hmmm
fallen escarp
@stoic island can you check if this mobo is compatible with 5v pwn fans?
tender fjord
uhhh
fallen escarp
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rzRTz7 Ops?
go for a 2060 super because it's cheaper and better than the 2070 and go for another fan, and you're good to go
tender fjord
I'm so confused
vital warren
fallen escarp
I'm so confused
?
little osprey
go for a 2060 super because it's cheaper and better than the 2070 and go for ano...
2060 super is out the budget tho
tender fjord
i5 10th cpu with a 20th series gpu and it rolled out to 1500 bucks for ruospo
fallen escarp
2060 super is out the budget tho
stay with a 2060 then
dawn cosmos
<@!337671478285697027> wrong link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hcv3mk this one?
I'm sorry. I have never used this site before
little osprey
i5 10th cpu with a 20th series gpu and it rolled out to 1500 bucks for ruospo
something like this? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7hLsnL
stoic island
Alright, so what do you want to upgrade?
dawn cosmos
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569?Description=ryzen 5 3600&cm_re=ryzen_5 3600-_-19-113-569-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-p/p/N82E16813119199?Description=prime X570-p&cm_re=prime_X570-p-_-13-119-199-_-Product&RandomID=792821982549116920201207064650
These two are what the support sent me
via newegg website. Until they redirected me to the discord
stoic island
hm, pretty high prices
fast dust
<@513480752739123230>
Why ping at 1:00 am
dawn cosmos
But on the system builder these two parts are not showing up? I would like to only upgrade the processor unless I REALLY need something else. But compatibility with what i've got now is important.
stoic island
by the way, you can use pcpp Israel
https://il.pcpartpicker.com/list/
So, looking at it now, I'd personally change the ram you currently have to a better kit, because 2x8 of 2133mhz mixed with 2x8 3000mhz is not gonna go well with Ryzen
dawn cosmos
Fml
stoic island
or just only use the 2x8gb 3000mhz kit
Because Ryzen really likes higher ram freq for IF
dawn cosmos
So the two part links i posted. These are what I need to upgrade to?
stoic island
My only compatible concern is PSU
clever jetty
can someone recommend me a ram that looks good i need 2x8 3600 please
stoic island
what exact PSU do you have?
dawn cosmos
But if i do upgrade to that ryzen processor, i need to even out my RAM
I'm sorry, I don't know what that is
languid nimbus
Power supply
stoic island
Mixing ram makes the ram run at the lowest frequency of all the sticks
and running Ryzen with 2133mhz ram is... Inadvisable, it'll work, but doesn't run that well
dawn cosmos
Ah, I have this: 600 Watt - 80 PLUS Gold Certified
odd crypt
@stoic island hey
stoic island
hey
dawn cosmos
uhh i can see. But that would require me taking the entire thing apart. Lemme look one more time
odd crypt
Is there a 625$ budget
stoic island
I'll make one
odd crypt
K
stoic island
@odd crypt
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PkrDkX
odd crypt
Thx
still roostBOT
Megakrush#9653 has been warned
dawn cosmos
I'll make one
So my stuff is hardcore out of date huh, Looks like the 600W could be 1 of 3: A corsair SF600, LEPTON 600W or EVGA 600W. Those 3 all look similar to the what I have now.
spare crown
it should tell u the brand
stoic island
Uh I mean look at the model on the PSU, but well, good nuff, should have standardized connectors
dawn cosmos
The only way i can get to my PSU right now is to shut down my computer and take it apart. It has a big shield between the other parts and the PSU.
stoic island
I just wanted to check for 24pin and eps 8 pin to be standardized
but it should be fine
dawn cosmos
I have 2 separate connectors if that helps. PCI-E 2 of those
stoic island
As long as it's a normal PSU, and not an OEM PSU, it'll have standardized enough connectors to fit the new mobo
so if it's a normal PSU, it'll be fine
dawn cosmos
The only way to check that is to fully inspect?
dawn cosmos
Well I selected the parts from IBUYPOWER. But that was 3 years ago. I've still got the order history and such. That's where my specs I posted earlier came from
dawn cosmos
let me check my device manager
stoic island
PSU doesn't communicate with the PC
you can't check anything on the PSU via software
dawn cosmos
Ofc it doesn't lol
It should have it somewhere though if the power is supplying my GPU right?
stoic island
hm?
dawn cosmos
Nvm. I'm not helping.
stoic island
anyways you should be able to take off the side panel and the psu shroud
fallen escarp
can i run my notcua fans with these? can i also mount them on my AIO?
wild cairn
dawn cosmos
anyways you should be able to take off the side panel and the psu shroud
yeah i'm gonna have to so we get the right path. Gimme a few
stoic island
@fallen escarp Basically, the problem right now is there's no 5v header on your mobo that I can see that'll match the pinout for the fan.
Pinout on the 5v fan:
the 5v aRGB header, the only 5v header I see on your motherboard's pinout looks like this
fan :
+5v Signal, RPM Signal, +5v power, GND
Header :
+5v power, dRGB Signal, empty, GND
@fallen escarp So I believe you should try to return the 5v pwm version for the 12v pwm version
ivory beacon
Quick explanation?
gleaming quartz
i think thats basically just if you prioritize work, buy intel, but if you prioritize gaming, buy ryzen is what that means
stoic island
um?
gleaming quartz
since most people who prioritize work wont need a gpu for heavy processing, unlike ryzen where you do need a gpu because of the lack of igpu
dawn cosmos
um?
There is NO way im getting this panel to expose my PSU unless i take the entire outer shell of and dismantle the motherboard.
gleaming quartz
am i wrong?
stoic island
usually the PSU shroud has like 2 screws, and all you need to get those screws off is the side panel off
no need to get the entire mobo off usually
@gleaming quartz well
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion
dawn cosmos
<@!337671478285697027> what kind of weird case are you working in
Its a RAEDEON MAX white shell. I had no idea getting my PSU would require all of this work.
4 screws and 4 smaller screws just to get the thing loss. There are a bunch of extra wires underneath so i can't even budge it free without removing the motherboard from its housing.
stoic island
@dawn cosmos Well, you could look at the connector on the mobo side too, like check if the mobo 24pin is 24pin, and if the EPS 8 pin is a 8 pin connector
usually it's easier to just look at the PSU lol
no idea that your case is just... bad about looking at the PSU
dawn cosmos
<@!337671478285697027> Well, you could look at the connector on the mobo side to...
what does 24 pin mean? Let me try one more thing
dawn cosmos
right side of the motherboard
okay so the other side comes off... the pull tabs were just hiding.... I can get to the PSU now
stoic island
@dawn cosmos Alright, so can you check the model of the PSU now?
what does it say on the PSU?
vestal sable
i think thats basically just if you prioritize work, buy intel, but if you prior...
doesnt the intel cpu's have a little lmore fps in games?
vestal sable
hmmmmm
i seen that 3600x has a l;ittle less pref in gmaes than 10400f
once i was looking forprebuilts, i was checking the preformance
but i ofc build my own
gleaming quartz
intel and ryzen individual cpu benchmarking is inconsistent because sometimes intel is better at ryzen with one cpu and vise versa
vestal sable
alr
next kestrel
no, ryzen does
dont make these generalizations then
gleaming quartz
yeah same
vestal sable
ayy
gleaming quartz
its more personal preference
gleaming quartz
actually that was my first cpu then i upgraded to a r7 3800x
stoic island
I'll be eating lunch so I'll get back to you soon
dawn cosmos
I'll be eating lunch so I'll get back to you soon
No problem. I’ll have to go to work here shortly as well. So won’t be by my PC
fossil halo
wait megakrush
stoic island
Fair
fossil halo
whats ur issue
stoic island
@fossil halo just checking comparability
vestal sable
hey 2700x is a good cpu
dawn cosmos
I’m trying to upgrade
vestal sable
its not grbage
stoic island
So wanted to find psu and it's connectors
fossil halo
oh
dawn cosmos
Will that work for you?
stoic island
Compatibility
dawn cosmos
Can I put it back together?
little osprey
my build is a laptop
stoic island
Looks like it's standard and will work @dawn cosmos
dawn cosmos
Sweet
stoic island
Going off this thing I found
gleaming quartz
its all ketchup and mustard.
stoic island
@dawn cosmos CPU+Mobo is all that needs for it to run, ram will make it work a lot better, if you get a single kit of 3600c16. But if you just use the 3000c16 kit in your list right now, and ditch the 2133c16 kit, it'll still work well
It's the 2133mhz kit that'll cause perf drops
dawn cosmos
Which is hopefully the ones I bought with the Pc not the ones I just purchased
fallen escarp
im planning to switch out fans, can anyone reccommend me some?
ivory beacon
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card
This is the good stuff yeah?
fossil halo
yessir
ivory beacon
Out of stock 😩