#building-and-recc-chat

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obsidian wigeon
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It might work

viral ore
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5000 series is 4th gen ryzen

obsidian wigeon
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I believe the board has flashback

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afaik

still leaf
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msi bios update pages are confusin

little osprey
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Ayo

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Is this build good

balmy patio
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looks nice

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you can shave off a few bucks by changing the mobo, ram, and ssd

little osprey
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Ok

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Gimme sec

balmy patio
little osprey
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I just wanted to beat this tiktoker ass with this build

balmy patio
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what's his user

little osprey
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I’ll send vid

balmy patio
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lmao

dapper hornet
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Hmm... so... I re-enabled ESD and it happens still, but with it disabled, it seemed stable for a solid 10 mins

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However, with it disable and the "allow the computer to power off USB device to save power" enabled, it also happened. Think it could be both of those setting together clashing?

hybrid aspen
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im a new guy and i need help for a build, if i was on a budget of lets say $1500 CAD what build would you suggest?

hollow grail
dapper hornet
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@earnest olive unfortunately, still happening :c

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I really thought we had it for a while there

earnest olive
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oof

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does it only happen with a specific device plugged in?

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or all devices

dapper hornet
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It happens with no devices plugged in. It just keeps happening

earnest olive
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honestly might be a defective usb controller on the board

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is it in the return window? kinda sucks to return a board cause it means you have to disassemble the whole build

dapper hornet
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Yeah, Asus provide a 3 year warranty with all x570 boardsd

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I really don't want to build this again, it was a literal nightmare -.-

earnest olive
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at least you can leave cables and stuff in place

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although

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i would wait until naed wakes up and see if he has an insight that i don't

summer pasture
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Im gonna try to upgrade my psu, gpu, and monitor before febuary next year, i really wish i could just get a job tho.

vital scaffold
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Core i3 6100U - 4 GB RAM - 500 GB HDD specs of my laptop

dapper hornet
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The only thing I haven't ruled out, is perhaps I've made a short somewhere with bad cable management

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Like it's a mess out the back and honestly, having 8 LL120s connected to a Commander Pro...

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Now, my keyboard is a Corsair K95 so both use iCue

earnest olive
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that isn't really possible unless you've somehow messed it up so badly that a sata power port's contacts are making direct contact with the motherboard

summer pasture
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Is one of your usb ports not working, if so I have the same issue but I havent really tried to fix it

earnest olive
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which should not be possible

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and if you were shorting it there would likely be more problems

vagrant olive
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did u accidentily rip off the insulating pads on the power supply

dapper hornet
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If I plug my keyboard into a USB 3 port, the moment it happens, all fans ramp up to 100% speed and the lighting effects crash for about 6 seconds, and then you get the sound windows makes when you plug a device in after it kicks back in

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But it only does it with the keyboard

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could it be the commander pro?

fleet pagoda
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My pc wont turn on

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Nice

opal zinc
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cop a pc

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scam the guy 2$

hollow grail
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@dapper hornet what issue are u having wtf lmao

opal zinc
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πŸ₯Ά πŸ₯Ά

earnest olive
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@dapper hornet if you unplug all usb devices does it still happen periodically?

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including keyboard and mouse

dapper hornet
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yeah, even with literally nothing plugged in it happens

earnest olive
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interesting

hollow grail
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if it happens on usb plug in it could be the board

dapper hornet
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I've never tried disconnecting the rgb controller though

earnest olive
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could you uninstall icue and see if it still persists with nothing plugged in?

dapper hornet
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it happened even before I had iCue installed so I never really thought of it until now

earnest olive
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oh

hollow grail
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see if uhh

earnest olive
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hmm

hollow grail
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can u go into bios and then plug something in

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see if it crashes there

fleet pagoda
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Can i have some help my pc wont turn on

earnest olive
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hmmmm

summer pasture
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@fleet pagoda j9 did you just build it

fleet pagoda
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Yeah

dapper hornet
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Lets get doms PC booting, mine is at least functionable for now πŸ˜›

hollow grail
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sucks

earnest olive
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open a command prompt and run
sfc /scannow
let that finish then run
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
see if anything changes after those two

hollow grail
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nah soundcrank dom just didnt know how to build their pc, you have an actual ISSUE and its interesting me

summer pasture
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I know this is dumb but psu is on right

fleet pagoda
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Yeag

earnest olive
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those two commands will check for any OS corruption

hollow grail
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yes do what bleach said

summer pasture
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24 pin, eps, and pci are plugged in

fleet pagoda
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Yep

dapper hornet
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I think I done this ffor Anthony at LTT, I'll run it again in case it was something else

hollow grail
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wdym done it for anthony lol

dapper hornet
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I had him trying to help me with this before lol

summer pasture
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Are you 100% sure your ram is compatible

earnest olive
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i've had those two commands fix weird issues i was having after tuning my overclocks

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since one of the crashes caused minor OS corruption

fleet pagoda
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Yea

dapper hornet
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Absolutely, the RAM is listen on the board verified list

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*listed

earnest olive
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you mentioned that your ram now goes to 3600 instead of 3200 on new bios which makes me think there could have been potential instability before

summer pasture
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Front panel?

dapper hornet
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It's all the USB 3 port, both board and front panel

summer pasture
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Do you have power switch plugged in@fleet pagoda

fleet pagoda
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Yes

summer pasture
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Have you tried turning on from the motherboard

earnest olive
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i have heard of some x570 boards' usb controllers having problem with certain VR headsets but never with nothing plugged in

hollow grail
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dom just post a pic of all your cables so we can get this over with

earnest olive
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so it shouldn't be a board problem unless defective

hollow grail
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and did you try shorting the power pins

dapper hornet
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hmm... says I'm not an administrator lol I only have the one windows account though

hollow grail
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that is not a good sign lmao

fleet pagoda
summer pasture
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@fleet pagoda

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My bad

fleet pagoda
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I put a screwdriver over those 2 ping

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I felt electricity

hollow grail
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i am refusing to help you actually lmao your name makes me gag

drifting scaffold
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WHY WAS IT ON

earnest olive
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@dapper hornet could be you just didn't start the command prompt as an admin

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also

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if you felt electricity you did something terribly wrong

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LOL

fleet pagoda
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U wont help me because of my name

dapper hornet
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ahh, let me try again

fleet pagoda
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ok

drifting scaffold
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you probably fried something important

earnest olive
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those front panel connectors do not look correct to me

viral ore
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yeah

dapper hornet
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yep, just needed to run as admin lol

hollow grail
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lmaooooooo

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some people are the target audience for prebuilts tbh feelschromosomemanTP

summer pasture
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Nah not really, what mobo

drifting scaffold
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Yeah, let's go off motherboard model

earnest olive
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i've used like 15 different AM4 boards and all of them had the same front panel layout

fleet pagoda
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I moved the ones on the bottom over one

summer pasture
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Yeah ik just checking

fleet pagoda
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B550m

summer pasture
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Did it do anything?

fleet pagoda
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The whole thing is completely un responsive

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What did i break

drifting scaffold
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pull them all out and send pic of the header

summer pasture
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Try turning on from motherboard maybe

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I thinks thats a thing

hollow grail
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literally short every pin on the front panel till it turns on

drifting scaffold
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only in some boards IIRC

hollow grail
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ez

drifting scaffold
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oh god why

fleet pagoda
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I did

hollow grail
fleet pagoda
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Isnt there supposed to he 5 and not 3

summer pasture
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Mine has audio, usb, power and reset sw, power and reset led

dapper hornet
earnest olive
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missing spaces in the dism

dapper hornet
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ahh, 2 moments

earnest olive
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DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

dapper hornet
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swear I am never building a PC again xD

earnest olive
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once you see the markups on high end prebuilts you'll be eating those words

dapper hornet
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Honestly, if paying an extra 300 bucks to avoid this stuff, I'd be over the moon lol

earnest olive
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that's right... a ryzen 9 3900x prebuilt... with no thermal paste... can be yours for only $13,477

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$300 is optimistic

summer pasture
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Lets go gamers

dapper hornet
summer pasture
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Did it do nothing

earnest olive
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that prebuilt costs about as much as my car

dapper hornet
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Yeah nothing happened

earnest olive
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the issue still remained?

dapper hornet
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Yep, just happened right there

hollow grail
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@earnest olive xotic doesnt kill you on the markup tbh

earnest olive
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i'm out of any ideas besides hardware fault

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i would wait to see if naed has anything to say about it

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i'm not sure what timezone he is but he went to bed about 5 hours ago

hollow grail
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ive used them for work several times and personally around 3 or 4 times

earnest olive
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how much is it?

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from personal experience "reasonable prebuilts" are around 30% markup

summer pasture
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We must ascend to levels higher than naed has ever graced

earnest olive
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since i sell custom prebuilts i monitor the competition sometimes lol

dapper hornet
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I really do have an issue that can't be pinned down it seems xD

summer pasture
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What is your markup?

earnest olive
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10%, minimum $75 if it has a transparent panel, minimum $50 if not

dapper hornet
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That's really competitive actually

summer pasture
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Wow reasonable prices πŸ‘

earnest olive
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some other local guys do it for less but i have a more impressive resume

dapper hornet
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I watch the latest LTT secret shopper thing and the iBuyPower PC they got was actually cheaper pre-built than they could source themselves

hollow grail
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thats p good

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xotic is maybe 20-30%

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but they honestly arent like

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desktop builders

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they just also do desktops

earnest olive
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the minimum $50 builds i can just slap all this in a case and it doesn't matter how it looks as long as the cables ain't in the fans

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$50 for 20 minutes of building

summer pasture
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I want a job

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Stupid laws

earnest olive
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@dapper hornet if that's the case it's almost certainly because of the DIY market just being volatile right now

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i saw the same video

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it had a 3700X + 2070 SUPER

hollow grail
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theyre laptop makers first and foremost

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or integrators

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i try to get all my clevos from them

earnest olive
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those have been doable without really cutting corners for like 1200-1250

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when prices are normal

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and prebuilts love cutting corners on ram speed, psu quality, and ssd quality

dapper hornet
hollow grail
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yeah

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xotic does like

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"certified psu and ssd"

earnest olive
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2070 SUPER DIY prices are just stupid right now because they got discontinued and too much demand

summer pasture
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Low psu quality scares me

hollow grail
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where its ssds that arent dramless and meet speed requirements

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and psus that they test to be good enough

earnest olive
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actually even with the inflated prices

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that took me like 45 seconds to part out

hollow grail
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ibuypower just gets killer deals

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cause bulk pricing

earnest olive
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man the 3700X is 329 right now

summer pasture
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I would probably just buy a prebuilt if i was super rich. Building is fun but messing up is srtessful

earnest olive
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i bought one for 267 a few months ago

dapper hornet
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It's so frustrating because the parts I have are all real high quality. The GPU being the weakest component in the PC technically speaking

earnest olive
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i could be given 5 billion dollars tomorrow and still build my own

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building my own is most of the fun for me

hollow grail
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oh true its the most fun for sure

earnest olive
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i like building/talking about pcs more than i like gaming on them

hollow grail
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i use xotic for their laptops

summer pasture
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But you have much skill. I am the same and had tons of fun building my pc its just stressful

hollow grail
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bleach if u ever need a performance laptop

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go xotic they wont let you down lol

earnest olive
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i am currently happy with my 4 year old budget laptop

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it does what i need it to do

hollow grail
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best prices on clevo chassis ive seen

earnest olive
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which is currently nothing actually considering covid

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the only time i power it on now is for exams

summer pasture
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Chromebook gang

earnest olive
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since our exams require webcam and my laptop is the only webcam i have

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nah definitely not a chromebook

summer pasture
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Yeah ik they suck

earnest olive
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eh

summer pasture
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But i have one so its what i use

earnest olive
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chromebooks have a reason to exist

hollow grail
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i love my chromebook to death

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its my most used device

summer pasture
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Yeah cheap laptops for schools

hollow grail
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and @earnest olive but 5950x laptop

summer pasture
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I mean they can do some stuff fine

hollow grail
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i have the pixelbook keeeek

earnest olive
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5950x in a laptop? that's weak

summer pasture
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5950x for my backup laptop

hollow grail
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tfw 1.7k chromebook keeeek

earnest olive
summer pasture
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Now thats a machine

earnest olive
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threadripper 3990x "laptop"

dapper hornet
summer pasture
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Anything under 64 core is pathetic

earnest olive
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with up to 2 tesla v100

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that is indeed 64 cores in a laptop

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but

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using the word laptop very loosely

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because if you put this thing on your lap your legs are going to die from cut off circulation

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or being cooked

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whichever comes first

summer pasture
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Yeah but you can still do itπŸ‘

earnest olive
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it's worth the flex

summer pasture
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I cook meals on my backup 64 core 3090 system

hollow grail
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cheap laptop tbh

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earnest olive
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hold on

dapper hornet
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My PC is actually a thing of beauty too (excluding the bad cable management)

earnest olive
summer pasture
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Specs

wanton cliff
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Oi, whats a good case for a 3970x?

hollow grail
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none

earnest olive
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10900K is a lot of things but efficient isn't one of them

summer pasture
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Oooooooooooh

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Cable managment isnt too bad

dapper hornet
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You haven't seen out the back xD

earnest olive
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i can see a few areas for improvement but i've seen worse

summer pasture
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Oh boy you should see the back of mine

dapper hornet
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It was nice enough that Newegg shared it on their IG and Twitter xD

summer pasture
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Non modular psu

earnest olive
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@hollow grail price is misleading.. i hit customize and immediately it jumped to $3800

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πŸ‘€

hollow grail
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cause that was the config i set up

earnest olive
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ah

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lol they really bundle a t-shirt with their warranty

summer pasture
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@dapper hornet what card is that?

wanton cliff
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Oi, what a good case for a 3970x with a Zenith II (eATX) and an 360mm AIO

DM me with answer pls

hollow grail
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sucks that one of my least fave card makers makes the only nice white cards

dapper hornet
summer pasture
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Guys i just found a 4090 ti on wish.com for $300 ima cop

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@dapper hornet Nice

earnest olive
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this configurator goes pretty high

summer pasture
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Sweet deal

earnest olive
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yeah turns out you can add unlimited memory cards to the order

summer pasture
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99999999 tb of ram

earnest olive
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never mind there is a limit

summer pasture
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Oh no what if someone wants more

earnest olive
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the website is not happy

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it's switching back and forth between ridiculous price and 2k

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it's confused

hollow grail
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lmao stop breaking them

dapper hornet
summer pasture
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Ali express>corsair

dapper hornet
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And it's can got from happening once every half hour to every 10 seconds

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There seems to be no pattern to it

earnest olive
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lol, you can also add unlimited shirts to your order

dry nexus
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I'm allowed to send a PC part picker link right

earnest olive
vagrant olive
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yes

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@dry nexus

dry nexus
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Ok

summer pasture
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Love the merch

dry nexus
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This is what I ordered for my first PC that I am going to build

earnest olive
hollow grail
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when i get my partner a laptop im laser engraving it

earnest olive
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see if this config works for you

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LOL

summer pasture
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@dry nexus should be good for the price

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@earnest olive That Should Also Be Good For The Price

earnest olive
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i wonder if it'll let you check out

summer pasture
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*accidentally buys

earnest olive
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i feel like my bank would just call me and be like "dude what"

summer pasture
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"My guy what are you doing"

earnest olive
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"how did you manage to buy something for almost 1 septillion dollars"

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i clicked add to cart and it is not working

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wait it worked

summer pasture
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My goals are beyond your understanding

earnest olive
dry nexus
summer pasture
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More

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@dry nexus How Much

dry nexus
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388 with tax

earnest olive
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oh the quantity selector barely does anything because it doesn't count the extras

summer pasture
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Thats still a good price

dry nexus
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The processer is marked up from 99

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I got it from newegg for 109.99 so only a bit more

summer pasture
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What do you plan on doing with the pc

hollow grail
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light word processing

dry nexus
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Minecraft and GTA V

jagged ember
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kid's spamming memes in general

summer pasture
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Should be absolutely fine

jagged ember
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so i came here for refuge

earnest olive
vernal pagoda
jagged ember
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lmao sips that's very unfortunate

earnest olive
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thanks honey extension for finding coupons on my 1.7 billion dollar laptop

dry nexus
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Wait windows for only $39?

sinful hornet
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@last blaze what mousepad is that?

dry nexus
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I mean I got it for free thru my college so Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

sinful hornet
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Lmao, windows for only $5

summer pasture
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Nice

earnest olive
summer pasture
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Oh no

earnest olive
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i wonder

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if i had 1.7 billion dollars would they actually let me order this

dapper hornet
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@earnest olive Just want to say, I really appreciate all the time and effort you've went to to help with this issue, if anything, we've put a lot of variable to rest at least

earnest olive
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with 1 million shirts, 1 million memory cards, etc

summer pasture
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Dont do it

earnest olive
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@dapper hornet no problem i hope naed has the answer

karmic trellis
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Hello again.

summer pasture
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This doesnt seem like a good idea man

dapper hornet
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If not, I am cashing in on warranties xD

last blaze
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@sinful hornet it's the razer goliathus extended

sinful hornet
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Ah, ok thanks

earnest olive
dapper hornet
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I can get the entire PC replaced still xD

last blaze
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I got it off the razer website for I think 50$ or so

summer pasture
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I think if you got that the president himself would come knocking on your door

dapper hornet
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what on earth are these prices like? ...

karmic trellis
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Can anyone help me with MSi click bios 5? Its picking up my drives but not booting from them.

dapper hornet
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Is that for real?

earnest olive
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but imagine being the guy preparing the order

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and seeing

earnest olive
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"1 million hats"

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"5 million shirts"

summer pasture
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Imagine loading the trucks

dapper hornet
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oooo it's millions xD

jagged ember
hollow grail
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xotic pc country

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literally was so happy when i stripped out all the ads from ltt

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made it somewhat watchable again

earnest olive
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anyone wanna get 1 million matching xotic shirts

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it'll be so cute

summer pasture
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Twinsies

sinful hornet
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For the rest of your life

jagged ember
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we can make people think we never wash our shirt

sinful hornet
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A brand new matching shirt every day

jagged ember
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for the rest of our lives

sinful hornet
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Lmao

earnest olive
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bold of you to assume i'm only going to live for 1 million days

hollow grail
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i love people who ask for help and then just dip

summer pasture
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And for our family for generations to come

sinful hornet
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😳

earnest olive
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i am a mcafee install on a prebuilt, i am immortal FOOL

dapper hornet
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1 million shiortts though... that's enough to give one to over 20% of all the people in my entire country

hollow grail
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i do mcafee installs

jagged ember
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sips they usually get uninstalled

hollow grail
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did you know its like

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impossible to remove mcafee endpoint protection

summer pasture
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If you drink i trillion 5 hour energies you become immortal

earnest olive
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that was the joke

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πŸ‘€

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mcafee is immortal

sinful hornet
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1 million shirts would about about 2.9 or 8% of my country

summer pasture
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I million shirts is 1/330 of my country, not doing the conversion to percent

hollow grail
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like

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literally you cannot remove mcafee endpoint

jagged ember
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you must be secure

earnest olive
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it's named endpoint.. because it will be there at your end

hollow grail
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without their special tool

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which they lock behind a paywall

sinful hornet
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Does avast really do anything?

stoic island
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Windows defender

earnest olive
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i'm sure you can remove it by nuking the entire OS if nothing else

jagged ember
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that's probably better than avast

stoic island
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yes

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malwarebytes >:)

jagged ember
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malwarebytes boiii

sinful hornet
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That’s the one I have

earnest olive
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i used to use malwarebytes

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then it shut down my pc without warning during a ranked match

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i was not amused

stoic island
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malwarebytes do be decent

summer pasture
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I think i downloaded a virus trying to get minecraft mods

stoic island
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lol

sinful hornet
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And I can’t figure out how to uninstall avast ;-;

hollow grail
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malwarebytes is so bad

sinful hornet
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Cause it’s literally always on

summer pasture
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I fixed it tho

hollow grail
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at least it was when i tested it

stoic island
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hm?

hollow grail
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first 50 samples broke it

stoic island
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malwarebytes sooo goood thoo

sinful hornet
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Taking maybe 2-10% of everything

hollow grail
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i literally had to talk to their engineers to make sure i was testing it right

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they were like wtf yeah

summer pasture
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I didnt wait for the whole page to load in and just clicked download but it turns out that i clicked an ad

earnest olive
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credit to them for admitting it at least?

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they could have been like

hollow grail
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mbam realtime is so bad lul

earnest olive
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"lol no our software good u are just stupid dum dum"

hollow grail
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i was like well congrats u just lost an enterprise contract

stoic island
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lel

drifting scaffold
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It's good for average users

dapper hornet
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I see nobody has mentioned Norton yet

drifting scaffold
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WE SPEAK NOT OF THAT

hollow grail
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out of all the AV i used, mcafee is actually quite good

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and symantec is excellent

dapper hornet
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πŸ˜„

stoic island
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πŸ—‘οΈ

earnest olive
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the best antivirus is common sense

karmic trellis
# hollow grail wdym

It just goes straight to BIOS, it shows my drives as devices, but I'm unable to select them to boot from.

stoic island
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yea

dapper hornet
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Do what I do, run absolutely zero protection

hollow grail
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i have unlimited vl keys for symantec endpoint protection

summer pasture
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Is anybody here on linux

jagged ember
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Sound you use common sense lol

hollow grail
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they gave me a test key and it was supposed to be a 10 day trial

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but

jagged ember
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And windows defender

hollow grail
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it was a 10 year trial

dapper hornet
earnest olive
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10 year trial

jagged ember
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It's difficult I know

stoic island
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best protection is no wifi

dapper hornet
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I used to run Kasperky, but it's pretty dominatrix like

jagged ember
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But our sponsor honey isn't difficult

hollow grail
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my fave AV is emsisoft though

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it was the only AV i tested that got a clean sheet vs 1tb of samples

earnest olive
#

i don't have wifi on my desktop but i am thinking about adding it just as a backup

summer pasture
#

Free real estate is better than 10 year trial

earnest olive
#

so i can connect to a hotspot if my home network is down

jagged ember
#

You can use your phone hotspot for that

#

If you have android

sinful hornet
#

Does he always improv his segways? Lmao

hollow grail
#

kaspersky is nice if ur into all ur data going to russia

earnest olive
#

oh

jagged ember
dapper hornet
earnest olive
#

you're right i forgot about usb tethering

#

although

#

i was talking more about the free xfinitywifi hotspot because

sinful hornet
#

Huh, thought they’d be more or less scripted

earnest olive
#

i only have 1gb/month of mobile data

#

so i'd be very limited if i was using my mobile hotspot

karmic trellis
#

My drives x_x

sinful hornet
#

1gb/month gang

#

Used to be 300 megs

jagged ember
#

I mean considering how many I do

dapper hornet
#

oof, I get 100 gb a month on mine for Β£17.50 a month

hollow grail
#

youll actually need a vpn for that lol

summer pasture
#

Im leaving now goodbye people

jagged ember
#

They may well be improv

earnest olive
#

i am gonna test if it works right now tho

#

be right back

#

i have now disabled my ethernet adapter

#

oh hey it works

#

that's neat

hollow grail
#

wow i rly like my new cursor

earnest olive
#

oh wait

manic onyx
#

anyone know if there will be enough room in a corsair 4000d airflow to top mount a 240mm arctic freezer ii ?

earnest olive
#

usb tethering works off of the phone wifi

#

that's actually really cool

hollow grail
#

yep

earnest olive
#

i thought it was data only like hotspot

#

alright guess i do not need a wifi card then

#

time to run a speedtest through usb tethering

hollow grail
#

lmao

earnest olive
#

wow that is seriously impressive

hollow grail
#

hnggg this cursor

#

i didnt think id be so impressed with something so simple

#

but its so nice

earnest olive
#

i was expecting it to be significantly more gimped

dapper hornet
earnest olive
#

hmm

#

i am gonna try tethering through the local free hotspot

dapper hornet
#

It's actually faster than my broadband line is anyway, ping isn't so good though

earnest olive
#

nvm i guess it doesn't want to work right now

#

my house is just on the edge of its coverage so it's spotty

prisma urchin
earnest olive
#

@jagged ember thanks for saving me $40 lol

jagged ember
#

Gotchu

dapper hornet
#

Hmm..m

#

My entire PC has now siezed... This has never happened before

#

A new symptom has appeared

#

But it's like 5am I can't deal with this anymore 🀣🀣

earnest olive
#

oof

hollow grail
#

gf is making me a custom logo for my symantec download page

urban pecan
#

im sad

earnest olive
#

get it engraved on her laptop @hollow grail

dapper hornet
#

Jeeze, even holding in the power button won't force shut down 😬

hollow grail
earnest olive
#

looks like Endpant ngl

hollow grail
#

ikr

#

its supposed to be awful

earnest olive
#

why does she want to end pants?

#

i like pants

dapper hornet
#

Not end pants

#

End pant protection

earnest olive
#

if you need to force shut down and power button isn't working

#

hit the power switch on the psu

dapper hornet
#

Yeah I just done that

#

I hope I've not made things worse 😭😭

earnest olive
#

it's sounding to me like you are gonna need to return mobo tbh

dapper hornet
#

Yeah, I think at this stage, I'm going to be "that guy" and cash in on all warranties I can

hollow grail
#

who made the motherboard?

dapper hornet
#

Mobo, GPU, ram, CPU and pay are all still under warranty

#

Asus

hollow grail
#

wow thats surprising

dapper hornet
#

PSU*

#

Oh, also, you can't put HDDs in it, they literally melt instsntly

hollow grail
#

revised

dapper hornet
#

I forgot about that issue

hollow grail
earnest olive
#

i would go ahead and say that psu and gpu could not possibly be the root cause

#

ram and cpu extremely unlikely

#

like, it could be a cpu problem but cpus are extremely rare to be defective

dapper hornet
#

I'll chance my luck, see if I can get shiny new parts xD

earnest olive
#

ram is just not really related to that stuff at all

#

more returning is more work

dapper hornet
#

Well, I do get a bunch of ram related bsods, but only when doing stressful tasks

#

Like rendering animation for example

earnest olive
#

hmm

#

what ram do you have exactly?

#

3600mhz ram with >16gb is not guaranteed to be stable on zen 2

#

even 3600mhz at 16gb is not guaranteed although that's like 99.9%

#

more ram is harder to run at the same speed

dapper hornet
#

I got G.Skill Trident Neo 64gb (4x16) @3600 MHz with 16/16/18 timings

earnest olive
#

yeah it might just be more than your CPU can handle

dapper hornet
#

It's a 3900X though

#

Surely it can handle it

earnest olive
#

i don't think the 3900X has a different memory controller from the lower end zen 2

dapper hornet
#

Hmm...

earnest olive
#

you gotta remember the "guaranteed" speed is 3200MHz

#

and that's 3200C22 JEDEC

#

anything better than 3200C22 is technically overclocking and not guaranteed

dapper hornet
#

I honestly wouldn't know, but it's only been running at that speed since the updated bios tonight, it's been capped at 3200 ever since built

earnest olive
#

were bsods still happening at 3200?

dapper hornet
#

Oh like 30 a day some times

#

My bsod error log is 85 gigs

earnest olive
#

...wow

jagged ember
#

thats a lot of bsod

earnest olive
#

something else is wrong most likely and the usb ports is just a side effect

dapper hornet
#

I've put up with some serious hardships on this thing, hence why I am at my wit's end lol

jagged ember
#

i suspect the ram

earnest olive
#

i support returning it all then

jagged ember
#

a stick may be faulty or something

earnest olive
#

my rig is heavily overclocked and undervolted

#

but i have zero stability issues

jagged ember
#

lol i'm just undervolted

earnest olive
#

stability issues are not normal

jagged ember
#

still good performance tho

dapper hornet
#

I'll start with Mobo, first thought I had was maybe the board isn't good enough to handle this much power delivery

earnest olive
#

nah, ryzen chips are not that demanding

dapper hornet
#

I got two m.2s and 5 SSDs also, there's a lot in the PC

earnest olive
#

you can run a ryzen 9 3900x just fine on a $90 B550M board

dapper hornet
#

Hmm

hollow grail
#

owo why all those ssds

dapper hornet
#

I make video animations a lot for music visuals :)

earnest olive
#

i've got my cpu undervolted by 84mV and my gpu undervolted by 75mV

#

have never gotten a crash outside of tuning overclocks

jagged ember
#

i just uh

dapper hornet
#

So, if I just skip you my PC... 🀣🀣

jagged ember
#

turned down my tdp or something

dapper hornet
#

Ship*

earnest olive
#

shipping pcs is ridiculously expensive

#

$200 to ship from where i am to florida

jagged ember
#

wait no, i lowered my PPL

earnest olive
#

and you sound like you're from across the pond

#

so even more

#

actually

#

if it's 5:50AM for you right now maybe you're in oceania

#

or an expat in SEA?

dapper hornet
#

I'm not rich, but I'd pay an arm or two to get this stuff sorted though... Getting 5 hours into a 6 hour render to hit a bsod has literally lost me clients :(

jagged ember
#

at sea

dapper hornet
#

I've just noticed... My PC clock has the wrong time 🀣

#

It's 4:51

earnest olive
#

yeah i would say if your system is crashing with XMP manually adjusted down to 3200MHz, plus this USB port issue

dapper hornet
#

PC says 5:52

earnest olive
#

something's defective that an average user cannot be expected to diagnose

#

so just mass return

jagged ember
#

this

#

if you tuned it down and it's having issues

dapper hornet
#

Extended warranties, got to love them xD

earnest olive
#

hm

#

i found your league account in europe west

#

UK perhaps

dapper hornet
#

Yeah, UK :)

#

Everything was UK sourced, except the ram. That came from the US Newegg

earnest olive
#

yeah i don't even want to imagine how expensive it would be to ship to and from the UK

#

if it costs me $200 to ship a pc from california to florida

dapper hornet
#

I can ship my PC from UK to Sweden for £25... But if I ship to Holland, which is half the distance, it's £400 🀣

#

Sweden has brilliant importing laws

earnest olive
warm swift
#

which is better G.Skill TridentZ Neo RGB 32GB DDR4 3600 Cl16 or Cl18?

earnest olive
#

lower cl is better

warm swift
#

16 it is then

jagged ember
dapper hornet
#

The only reason I know this is because I went on holiday for a month to Sweden and legit shipped my old pc over for the month. It was cheaper than getting travel insurance on my laptop 🀣🀣

earnest olive
#

must be nice not being american

#

you can trust your shipping companies with fragile pc?

warm swift
#

ok another question which is better 2TB Samsung 860 EVO 2TB or Crucial MX500?

earnest olive
#

difference will be negligible buy whichever is cheaper

dapper hornet
#

I know how to pack a PC, and it was a brute of a thing anyway

jagged ember
#

yep

warm swift
#

both are the same price where im from

jagged ember
#

same price? samsung lol

earnest olive
#

flip a coin

dapper hornet
#

Also, I would give anything to have a right to own guns right about now the way things are going

jagged ember
#

or, flip a coin

warm swift
#

are you saying they are both the same?

jagged ember
#

'difference is negligible'

earnest olive
#

@dapper hornet packed properly doesn't matter when they decide to play soccer with your package

#

in case you were wondering, yes, the properly packed case inside was broken

dapper hornet
#

Solid steel case and an Asus TUF tank grade MoBo though xD

jagged ember
#

doesnt matter

#

shipping will more likely than not RUIN your pc

dapper hornet
#

It survived both ways :p

earnest olive
#

military grade means "done by the lowest bidder for as cheaply as possible"

#

it's not a good thing

jagged ember
#

remember when linus shipped the creeper pc?

dapper hornet
#

The Sabertooth R2 was graded for impact from missile so they claimed 🀣

earnest olive
#

i would not trust american shipping companies with my baby

jagged ember
#

the damn thing was so well packed

drifting garnet
jagged ember
#

it still broke on arrival

dapper hornet
#

To be fair though, I never tested that 🀣🀣

gentle harbor
#

Hey I was wondering if anyone knows how to overclock the RAM on a laptop that doesn't have the options in the BIOS to set the frequencies?

earnest olive
#

you can't

jagged ember
#

if bios wont let you i dont think you can yeah

drifting garnet
#

Yeah that is what I was thinking as well

earnest olive
#

laptop ram overclocking is really not a thing

gentle harbor
#

Alright thanks for the reassurance

earnest olive
#

typically the motherboard is only designed to accept up to a certain speed anyways

uncut junco
#

I need help

drifting garnet
#

Overclocking laptops isn't the best thing to do.

earnest olive
#

my laptop takes 2400mhz ram

#

if you put 2666mhz ram in it

#

it will look at you funny and then downclock that ram to 2400mhz

uncut junco
#

@earnest olive

#

let me ss something, i want to overclock my cpu but i cant

earnest olive
#

if you want to overclock your cpu but you don't know how to start, you should probably not be overclocking

jagged ember
#

true

dapper hornet
#

How does one sip bleach seductively though?

earnest olive
uncut junco
#

I know

drifting garnet
#

And I wouldn't overclock a laptop anyway.

uncut junco
#

um

jagged ember
#

i'd do pbo and just be happy with what i have

uncut junco
#

wrong chat

earnest olive
#

@dapper hornet with lots of practice

dapper hornet
#

I fun thee, Cloroxchan

uncut junco
#

im sorry about that...

dapper hornet
#

*dub

earnest olive
dapper hornet
#

Oh... Well... I see I've been beaten to this punch before 🀣

gentle harbor
#

Well the one I wanted to OC has a max RAM capacity of 67gb so I would think that having 4gb of integrated RAM and 16gb of upgradable RAM. The max Frequency that the processor takes is around 1600hz or something like that, but the RAM is only working at a max rate of 933hz. Ive tried it with 2 other RAM sticks and its the same with those.

earnest olive
#

w-what...

#

67gb ram..? 933hz..?

uncut junco
#

THATS ALLOT

gentle harbor
#

sorry meant 64gb

#

Im fixing up this laptop for my mom cause she has a really dated one.

languid nimbus
#

This isn’t the place. I’d suggest deleting.

drifting garnet
jagged ember
#

that entire message is just confusion

drifting garnet
#

Haha yeah

earnest olive
#

my head is spinning

gentle harbor
#

alright you wnt me to sum it up

uncut junco
#

Mine too xD

jagged ember
#

yes

#

less words

drifting garnet
#

933hz

earnest olive
#

does your mom.. need 64gb of ram?

uncut junco
#

Yep

drifting garnet
earnest olive
#

i upgraded my mom's laptop from 8gb to 16gb and she literally did not notice

drifting garnet
#

Most likely

#

Unless she games or somethin

earnest olive
#

her tabs were taking 6 seconds to load from pagefile

#

and went to instant

#

and somehow she didn't notice

#

like each time she switched tabs it would take 6 seconds

languid nimbus
#

Jesus

uncut junco
#

Anybody wants to watch anime?

languid nimbus
#

That’s a pretty significant increase lol

earnest olive
#

i bought her an RGB keyboard for her birthday so she's basically a gamer

languid nimbus
#

6s -> instant

earnest olive
#

she had me cycle all the rgb effects so she could record it and flex it on her boomer friends

uncut junco
#

Your mom will become twitch streamer bro

drifting garnet
#

My laptop is 8gb and is fine for most tasks except having multiple stuff open when gaming. It isn't even close to made for gaming tho.

gentle harbor
#

OK, I have put 3 different RAM sticks in my laptop. 2 being 4gb and 1 16gb. I have tested all of them with CPU-Z and Task Manager and both read the max speed for all of them is 933Mhz (my bad for the miss information).

earnest olive
#

uhh

drifting garnet
#

But web browsing is fine with 8 imo.

earnest olive
#

individual sticks cannot be single or dual channel

drifting garnet
warm swift
#

can i send my pcpartpicker list and someone can tell me what to change?

dapper hornet
#

the channeling is the board slots

earnest olive
#

933 sounds about right, you mentioned it is dated so it's probably ddr3-1866, cpu-z reports real speed rather than the doubled transfer speed of ddr

uncut junco
#

You reply to him?

dapper hornet
#

Honestly, I feel like this is my real identity

uncut junco
#

You don't want to reply to me ?

earnest olive
uncut junco
#

I just wanted to say that.... I love you guys! Even if i don't know who are you!

warm swift
#

i like everything i chose, except im not a fan of the case or cooler, there is a deepcool castle 360 RGB V2 which i heard is really good, but only problem is there is no RF120 Fans available, and idk if it would be a good idea to get corsair ll120 fans instead, and im not a fan of the case aswell so yeah...

earnest olive
#

a laptop with an i7-5700HQ would support DDR3L-1866 which has a real clock speed of 933mhz

gentle harbor
#

Its a Lenovo Ideapad 320-15ABR

drifting garnet
#

Ok I will look at the list

gentle harbor
#

Im just trying to get an idea of why all 3 RAM sticks read a speed of 933Mhz

earnest olive
#

"CPU: AMD A12 9720P"

uncut junco
#

You don't love me?

#

😦 i m sad

earnest olive
#

i'm sorry but i'm going to have to report you for elder abuse for giving your mom an A series APU

dapper hornet
earnest olive
#

jokes aside

gentle harbor
#

omg its the only one I have that no-one uses

earnest olive
#

933MHz is the correct speed for that processor

warm swift
warm swift
dapper hornet
earnest olive
#

the memory controller for that processor supports DDR3-1866 and DDR4-1866 RAM

#

but that 1866 number is with the doubled data rate

gentle harbor
#

So is that the max number that the CPU can take?

earnest olive
#

while CPU-Z reports the real speed without the doubling

#

933 is half of 1866

dapper hornet
#

Yeah, Sips explanation nailed it

earnest olive
#

@warm swift umm..

gentle harbor
#

Ok that makes alot more sense. Im just frustrated on how the limit is that low.

earnest olive
#

$64 for a 250GB SSD? $1350 for an RX 3080?

#

don't worry, the A12 is so weak that it won't matter

#

you can stick 5100MHz RAM in a potato but it's still a potato

warm swift
earnest olive
#

yes... but... $64 for 250gb

#

😐

warm swift
#

wait im sorry is that alot because i dont really understand?

#

im not being sarcastic, but i actually dont understand

dapper hornet
earnest olive
#

disagree

#

3080 with 5900X is a fine pairing

#

however

#

paying $1350 for a 3080 is not fine

jagged ember
#

it is a good paring i say too

#

just price is dumb yep

#

1 grand is an entire damn pc dude

warm swift
#

im not buying it from pcpartpicker tho

dapper hornet
#

True, a good pairing, but is it required is my thinking, with that price point - you could get much bigger M.2s with a 3070 for example

earnest olive
#

cheapest 250gb nvme drive with dram

jagged ember
#

thanks sips

earnest olive
#

not everyone needs that much storage

#

my friend gifted it to me

warm swift
#

@earnest olive i live in egypt, so the stuff i have is pretty limited, i can tell you all the 250gb nvme ssd's that are available, there are like 2 or 3 so yeah 😭

earnest olive
#

i will never need anywhere near this much

#

well

#

it is gonna be hard to pick parts for you if i don't know pricing/availability

warm swift
#

ik the pricing in egypt

dapper hornet
#

Also, listen to sips, certainly knows waaay more than I do about PC parts and building xD

warm swift
#

and im ok with it

#

the price

jagged ember
#

i'm not

#

1 grand for a GPU

#

that's ridiculous!

earnest olive
#

i'd be down to drop 1 grand on a gpu

#

but not a $700 gpu

#

lol

warm swift
#

that is true Wideus

earnest olive
#

if i'm dropping 1k it better be a 6900XT

dapper hornet
#

Yeah that's pretty much double the price of what that GPU should be

earnest olive
#

(lisa please sell me a 6900XT)

#

(please i am begging you)

jagged ember
#

I did not hit her, i did not

warm swift
#

is the 3080 sold out everywhere? is that why its so expensive?

jagged ember
#

oh, hi mark

#

stock stupid

#

bots everywhere

dapper hornet
earnest olive
dapper hornet
#

There is, though a shop 15 miles from me that has one ON SHELF

jagged ember
#

GO

earnest olive
#

how much is it?

dapper hornet
#

Β£950 though :c

earnest olive
#

ah

jagged ember
#

oop

earnest olive
#

so they're scalpers

dapper hornet
#

Still, better than $1350

jagged ember
#

everyone scalps now

dapper hornet
#

actually, not much better lol

earnest olive
dapper hornet
#

I seen it, asked price, gave them abuse then left lol

warm swift
#

ik 3080 is really expensive, but ill have to go with it im sorry

#

i think its supposed to be 800 or something

#

but yeah..

earnest olive
#

700

warm swift
#

700?

#

mad

dapper hornet
#

Do you need it this badly that you are willing to pay double for it though?

earnest olive
#

need more frames in minecraft bro

dapper hornet
#

Give it a month, they'll return to normal

earnest olive
#

a month is optimistic

jagged ember
#

very optimisitc

earnest olive
#

nvidia themselves predict 3-4 more months

dapper hornet
#

Only took 6 weeks for the 20 series to retturn to normal πŸ™‚

jagged ember
#

i'd expect the next year to be terribly priced

dapper hornet
#

oo, didn''t know that bit

earnest olive
#

20 series didn't come out during a global stay-at-home pandemic

dapper hornet
#

Exactly, it came out when people still had jobs and could afford them xD

earnest olive
#

double whammy of impacted logistics and higher demand

jagged ember
#

PSUs at an all time high, along with the 3600 and gpus

earnest olive
#

i'm lucky both of my jobs are still possible

#

however i am still a dependent so i do not qualify for stimulus checks

#

$1200 is a lot of pc money

dapper hornet
#

I wonder what the deal on returning my parts will be... If they can't resupply them, they'll need to refund me the cost, right?

earnest olive
#

probably

#

last gen parts aren't as bad for stock though

fleet pagoda
#

My motherboard was defective

dapper hornet
#

If I can get money back for my 2070 Super, I'd fuggin lo

fleet pagoda
#

When it arrived i opened it and the inside of that little bad thingy was wet

jagged ember
#

rma time

#

also send them a strongly worded letter about keeping water out of boxes

earnest olive
#

i wish i had a gpu as decent as the 2070 super to coast on

#

i have been stuck on my temporary gpu for 5 months

jagged ember
#

rip sips

earnest olive
#

30 fps gaming catJAM

fleet pagoda
#

Idek how to return it

jagged ember
#

the sad life continues

fleet pagoda
earnest olive
#

it's okay

fleet pagoda
#

This was nice to see

earnest olive
#

the little gtx 1060 tries her hardest

dapper hornet
#

Here, at least your USB ports work xD

fleet pagoda
#

After it not turning on for 2 hours

earnest olive
#

i can't blame her

#

actually

jagged ember
#

was it still wet

earnest olive
#

one of my front usb ports stopped working after return window

fleet pagoda
#

No

jagged ember
#

ok nice

earnest olive
#

but i still have like 11 good usb ports so i could not care less

fleet pagoda
#

God i hope not

dapper hornet
#

I got a spare GPU I can give you xD

jagged ember
#

that would have been very unforunate dom

drifting garnet
earnest olive
#

the shipping cost will cost more than the gpu is worth probably

jagged ember
#

contact your seller for an rma

earnest olive
#

team gx2 is bad

#

dramless

drifting garnet
#

Oh

#

I didn't know that

earnest olive
#

any ssd at that price is suspicious

dapper hornet
#

🀣🀣

jagged ember
#

was his budget 3000 bucks

fleet pagoda
#

I bought off newegg

earnest olive
#

mm yummy 650ti

#

i'm sure that will drive my 1440p165hz monitor perfectly

#

time to play AC valhalla on it

fleet pagoda
#

What should i write for β€œplease describe reason for return”

jagged ember
#

arrived wet

fleet pagoda
#

Just that it was wet

#

Ok

jagged ember
#

or something like that yeah

dapper hornet
#

Hot rod it xD

jagged ember
#

just tell them basically

earnest olive
#

gonna shunt mod that 650ti and liquid cool it

#

overclock it to 3ghz

dapper hornet
#

"arrived water damaged"

jagged ember
#

arrived soaked to the bone

warm swift
#

@drifting garnet no worries, yeah um the samsung ones i put are the only ones available... 😐

earnest olive
#

increase fps from 4 to 6

dapper hornet
#

thats 33%

#

good returns

warm swift
#

i mean @earnest olive like without thinking about the pricing, is everything i choose good?

earnest olive
#

hard to say without knowing the choices..

#

that case looks terrible for airflow

#

otherwise looks fine if pricing is ignored

warm swift
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ik 😦

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even the psu?

fleet pagoda
drifting garnet
earnest olive
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yeah psu looks fine

jagged ember
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i think so dom

warm swift
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let me look for other cases

jagged ember
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not sure

warm swift
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which are the best brands?

fleet pagoda
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Ok

earnest olive
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x570 aorus master is a complete waste of money for your use case

jagged ember
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either way, send it back asap lol

warm swift
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oh and lian li isnt available

earnest olive
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so i would go for a cheaper board

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brand doesn't matter just look at individual products

jagged ember
dapper hornet
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Right folks, I'm going to watch some DBZ like the sad loser I am, peace out πŸ™‚

earnest olive
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have fun

drifting garnet
earnest olive
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liking things doesn't make you a loser

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my girl thinks me being a nerd is adorable

jagged ember
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having absolutely no interests is probably worse

earnest olive
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just gotta find the right people

dapper hornet
jagged ember
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being a flat cardboard cutout is not good for you

dapper hornet
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keep her

drifting garnet
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Oh yeah, change it to B550 forgot about that.

earnest olive
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she plays league with me

fleet pagoda
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Do u guys think?

warm swift
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@earnest olive can i send you the boards that are available and you tell me which i should go for?

fleet pagoda
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Bc i dont think

earnest olive
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knew she was a keeper when she flashed over the wall to use lulu ult on me

jagged ember
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thinking yes

fleet pagoda
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My mind is completely blank

jagged ember
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it happens

warm swift
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i mean i heard that that aorus master is like the best one or something

fleet pagoda
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It does happen

dapper hornet
jagged ember
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not always

earnest olive
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happens

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go next gf

fleet pagoda
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Sometimes

earnest olive
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@warm swift go for it

jagged ember
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i want gf peepoSadSip

manic onyx
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if i link my build can you guys tell me if I'm going to have a ram clearance issue? i've been trying to figure this out and no one seems to know for sure

drifting garnet
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What are the best sata ssds

earnest olive
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aorus master is a good board sure but you don't need the features it offers

fleet pagoda
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Gf would be awesome

dapper hornet
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I'm all good, more interested in fixing my PC than finding a woman, I got a cat... That's more than enough xDD

earnest olive
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best ssd at what capacity

drifting garnet
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Like 1tb

earnest olive
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idk my cat is needier than my girl

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πŸ™„

jagged ember
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cats be like dat

dapper hornet
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My cat sleeps on my chest xD

vagrant olive
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ok shane dawson

jagged ember
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wow

dapper hornet
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I don''t know the reference, but I am sure you roasted me

jagged ember
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a samsung is actually good value

earnest olive
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the best price/performance 1tb sata ssd is samsung

warm swift
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ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING
ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING
GIGABYTE X570 AORUS MASTER

earnest olive
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right? imagine samsung being good value

vagrant olive
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b550 aorus elite goes hard

dapper jasper
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870 qvo is bad

earnest olive
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@warm swift are there any b550 available?

dapper jasper
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lol

drifting garnet
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Yeah, I saw that and I was like why is it so cheap??

earnest olive
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bad for what reason?

drifting garnet
dapper hornet
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Because it's a QVO drive, that's why

earnest olive
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it's not like you can get very good from a sata ssd

drifting garnet
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What does that even mean

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Qvo

dapper hornet
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Has half life expectancy then the other ones