building-and-recc-chat

[worn cedar]

Wait

[prisma rock]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8rtmq can some finish my list using the case I selected

[worn cedar]

@earnest olive my friend has h510 Case and she uses an RTX 3070 and says it runs fine 😭😭

[stoic island]

lol

[prisma rock]

I want a 3070 and a 5600 x in it too

[stoic island]

runs fine

[stoic verge]

@crystal totem I'd recomend to get the motherboard replaced.

[stoic island]

sure

but not optimal

[little osprey]

Good luck

[worn cedar]

I mean she plays mostly R6S

[crystal totem]

How do we know if it's the mobo

[earnest olive]

most likely not running at max potential

[crystal totem]

I... Did buy it Amazon refurbished-

[stoic verge]

No wonder

rfurbrished

[mighty wadi]

Ayo so what exactly is the new razer tomahawk desktop

[stoic island]

@crystal totem reset cmos

[earnest olive]

siege is not exactly a gpu intensive game

[stoic island]

I bought my mobo refurb, couldn't boot until I reset cmos

@earnest olive yes it is >:P

it's intensive for getting 240fps

[stoic verge]

that might work.

[prisma rock]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m8rtmq can someone finish my list

[little osprey]

Seige isn't an intensive game period

[earnest olive]

who knows if she's running at 240

[worn cedar]

@mild venture how well does ur 3070 run in ur h510

[stoic island]

hm?

I have a 144hz panel, I like siege running at 240fps

[crystal totem]

I'm struggling to get the GPU out cause I'm dumb

[earnest olive]

i'd rather see some benchmarks with temp and noise data than "it runs fine in siege"

[little osprey]

I had a 240hz but broke it

[crystal totem]

Ok so wait how do I remove the CMOS battery

I finally got the GPU out

[stoic verge]

Pry the battery out.

with a screwdriver

but gently.

[worn cedar]

Isn’t there a pin

At the side

[stoic verge]

By the ram?

[worn cedar]

No

[stoic verge]

I mean.

some motherboards are different

[worn cedar]

Idk now but I remember older model mobos had a small pin next to the battery

[stoic verge]

he said it's a B450

[worn cedar]

Older models from

2010

[stoic verge]

Idk,

I'll check the B450M manual

@crystal totem

did you clear CMOS?

[crystal totem]

How do I reset the CMOS from those pins

Do I bridge with a screwdriver

[stoic island]

yea

[pale kraken]

Can someone please help me

[crystal totem]

So since I can't see anything I set it on there about 4 times in 5 second intervals

[pale kraken]

I was able to make it go to boot menu earlier and even try installing windows

[stoic island]

Focus G eh

[pale kraken]

Now it's over and over like this

[stoic verge]

seems like a video output.

@pale kraken

[stoic island]

Reset cmos is a good place to start

[worn cedar]

Maybe cable?

[stoic island]

@pale kraken lmao reminds me of my pc

[stoic verge]

possibly.

[pale kraken]

Whats cmos? Sorry first build

[stoic island]

my build is in a focus g

[pale kraken]

So reassemble?

[crystal totem]

My CMOS should be reset. Ive rubbed my screwdriver all over those pins

[stoic island]

and I stared at that no signal on a MSI monitor for so long

applies to both amd and intel
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

battery method

@crystal totem Bridge it for like 5 seconds and see

[worn cedar]

@pale kraken is ur cable working fine?

[stoic island]

forgot exacts on jumper

[crystal totem]

Time to put my gpu back in and boot again into the bios?

[stoic island]

try

[stoic verge]

try to boot into windows

first

[crystal totem]

I mean. Aight

[pale kraken]

Err cable? I think cables are ok? The gpu kinda felt weird inserting it in, think maybe a cable got pied?

[stoic verge]

.

[worn cedar]

Felt weird ?

[stoic verge]

you didn't feel a click?

or hear a click?

[pale kraken]

It clicked

[stoic verge]

Ok,

just felt weird

hm

[stoic island]

anyways either way, reset cmos via battery method

it's gonna be good to do no matter the circumstances

[pale kraken]

How do i do that?

[stoic verge]

reste CMOS?

reset*

@pale kraken ?

[worn cedar]

He didn’t mean that to u lol

[pale kraken]

Ow ok mb

[crystal totem]

Alright I'm about to turn it on

[stoic verge]

Pray

for it.

[worn cedar]

Hmmm

Idrk

The problem is too vague

[crystal totem]

Praying

[stoic verge]

how the bloody hell did the verge Pc guy get to boot while others have problems?

[crystal totem]

Windows crashed during boot

[stoic verge]

so, it semi worked?

[crystal totem]

Nope

Same issue as before

[stoic verge]

ermm..

[crystal totem]

Things can start booting

[stoic verge]

I'll check some videos

[crystal totem]

It's staying alive that's the problem

I've gotten into windows fully a few times before I'd get a bsod or a complete halt

[worn cedar]

Idk

Im still kinda sus on ram but I can’t tell for sure

Bring it to a tech expert

[crystal totem]

I'm gonna take a single stick out and tell you how it goes

Might as well. Since I'm low on options

[stoic island]

@pale kraken tis be reset cmos

[worn cedar]

Ram is easy to pop out lol

[stoic island]

battery method is good

[fleet pagoda]

Makin me happy makin me smiling

[worn cedar]

Eu hats that

WhaTS

What’s

[crystal totem]

I took a stuck out

[worn cedar]

Xylemlol

[fleet pagoda]

Spread sheet for the 3060ti

[crystal totem]

Windows is booting

IT BOOTED

[worn cedar]

Knew it was ram

[fleet pagoda]

Nice

[worn cedar]

Lol

I had a similar problem with an old laptop

[stoic island]

ain't in the clear yet

[worn cedar]

[stoic island]

try to boot into windows

[crystal totem]

Wait a sec

I'm into windows

[worn cedar]

This where I say “nvm”?

[crystal totem]

Now let's see if it doesn't freeze

[stoic island]

let's hope it doesn't bsod

[crystal totem]

It's gotten this far a few times

[stoic verge]

def Ram

[stoic island]

let's see

[worn cedar]

Well if it booted then we know it’s something to do with ram

Oh

[crystal totem]

Lemme load up a video I took 2 days ago

[stoic island]

be careful

[stoic verge]

so,

[stoic island]

make sure it's not a corrupted file

[stoic verge]

the ram wasn't fully in?

[worn cedar]

That could be it too

[stoic island]

(don't complicate actions in case something makes it bsod again)

[worn cedar]

Tbh

[crystal totem]

I took this a few days ago

[worn cedar]

Tough

That was so fast wtf😭

[stoic island]

lol

[worn cedar]

It didn’t even let you read

[stoic verge]

Hopefully this won't happen to m.

when I get my parts.

[crystal totem]

.... Bro what the Fuxk windows is still running

[worn cedar]

Try cleaning your ram

[pale kraken]

Uhm whats a jumper

[crystal totem]

I think this workwd

[worn cedar]

And dusting the pins

[crystal totem]

This single stick is working

[stoic verge]

so, ram wasn't fully in

FIXED.

[worn cedar]

Both can be working

[stoic verge]

lmao

[stoic island]

lol

[worn cedar]

I usually clean my ram pins using white eraser

[crystal totem]

No no the ram was fully in

[stoic island]

@crystal totem oo sounds good

[crystal totem]

I had reseated the ram many times

[stoic verge]

BAM

[crystal totem]

But I never tried without both sticks

[worn cedar]

And dust the motherboard ram socket thingy

[crystal totem]

I'm running with just one now

[stoic island]

wanna stress test CPU and GPU just in case, or do you want to try and reboot with 2 sticks?

[crude lagoon]

how many fans can a sys fan header support?

[stoic verge]

@crystal totem don't put the ram side by side.

[crystal totem]

One sec I'm gonna hook up my HDD now so I can't actually boot an app

[stoic island]

@crude lagoon depends on the fan and the header

[crystal totem]

They ain't side by side

[stoic verge]

dual channel won't work

alright

[stoic island]

some headers are rated 1a/2a/3a

[crystal totem]

Dual channel doesn't work, I have it in slots 1 and 3

[stoic island]

fans can be anywhere from rated for .1a to like .6a

[crystal totem]

I also attempted slots 2 and 4 but no dice

[pale kraken]

Can mine be caused by activating xmp?

[crystal totem]

But slot 1 is working somehow

[stoic verge]

Hm.

[worn cedar]

Also

[stoic island]

anyways

[worn cedar]

Are both rams the same

Or are they different

[pale kraken]

Should i disassemble mine and rebuild

[stoic island]

from this "known good state" we can try stuff

@pale kraken Did you try reset cmos..?

[worn cedar]

@crystal totem are both rams the same or different?

Cuz sometimes different HZ rams can cause crashes

[pale kraken]

@stoic island dunno what jumper is

[worn cedar]

mhz

[stoic island]

@pale kraken I said battery method lol

[crystal totem]

Same ram

Same exact type

[stoic island]

jumper is weird

battery method is a safe bet

[deep skiff]

i just used a screwdriver to jump the pins and it worked fine

[pale kraken]

Om taking out batter @stoic island

[stoic island]

unplug from wall

don't forget

[stoic verge]

imagine if he didn't take the plug out.

[pale kraken]

Why whag will happen

[stoic verge]

uh you die

jk

just take the PSU plug out just in case.

[crystal totem]

I'm booting a second time with my hard drive hooked uo

[stoic island]

reset cmos just doesn't work

the whole point is to power cycle

[crystal totem]

So I can run programs and stuff

[stoic island]

if power is still in there

cmos won't be reset

[crystal totem]

I can't believe it. It's still not crashed

[stoic island]

nice

@crystal totem from this known good state, might be time to add the other stick in :D

[crude lagoon]

the fans are the ones from the cooler Master masterbox lite 3.1 there's 3 RGB and one non RGB, and the motherboard is the gigabyte b450m-ds3h

[crystal totem]

After I clean the stick I assume?

The stick looks clean to me but

[stoic island]

1a header I'm pretty damn sure

[worn cedar]

I usually clean mine using white eraser

Not the whole stick itself

Just the pins

[stoic island]

yea wipe the contacts with cleaning isopropyl alcohol if you can

[crystal totem]

The results don't lie

Q tip and isopropyl?

[stoic island]

am tired rn, iirc like 98% or smth isopropyl is good for cleaning, but pure isn't great

too tired

someone else answer plz

@crude lagoon either way, there's only 1 preinstalled rear fan, what's the others..?

[worn cedar]

I heard using eraser works too

Tried it before

You just go and erase the pins

[stoic island]

I don't have any white eraser around so meh

[worn cedar]

White eraser is the most functional

[pale kraken]

@stoic island still the same for me😫

[stoic island]

did you power cycle

well

[pale kraken]

Dunno whats that either

[stoic island]

did you unplug from wall, and press power button a few times to cycle through the power while the battery is out to make sure there's no power left

[crystal totem]

Is 70% isopropyl good

Cause that's all I got

[pale kraken]

While battery is off?

[stoic island]

@crystal totem I'm too tired to remember lel

@pale kraken while the battery is out of there

as in, battery taken out

[iron needle]

Help

[vagrant olive]

no

[iron needle]

I have had a pc kinda built for me with a couple of modifications and I would like someone to look at it please if you will

Y no help

[stoic island]

yes

what is it

[vagrant olive]

lol im joking

what is it u need

[iron needle]

K

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tz2TPV

Price range is 1100 down and no streaming

[stoic island]

did you buy it already?

[iron needle]

This is for my cyberpunk 2077

Nope

[stoic island]

Only thing I'd change is mobo/ram

like Aorus elite ax is a much better board afaik for the same price

and 3600c16 ram is cheaper and better so, why not

[iron needle]

I guess

[stoic island]

GPU is a bit weak, but it's what you can get your hands on

[iron needle]

Yeah

I wanted like a 2080 at least but too expensive

I’ll upgrade it later

[stoic island]

2060 is a fair starter gpu

[iron needle]

Yeah

[crystal totem]

I just put the second ram stick back in

Crash

Hung during boot

[stoic island]

rip

[crude lagoon]

@stoic island ok so I found out that the fan header is 2a, and the fans are the masterfans lite rgb (or something like that) but I couldn't find a amp on it

[stoic island]

can you try only the other stick for boot? (That 2nd stick, placed in slot 1)

[crystal totem]

Yeah holdup lemme try that

[stoic island]

the MF120R?

[crude lagoon]

no, the case was actually the masterbox lite 5

my bad

[stoic island]

ah alright

[crystal totem]

The second stick failed to boot

With it being the only one in there

[stoic island]

I guess that second stick is dead, might be time to try and open up a RMA ticket with the manufacturer

[crude lagoon]

also one of my fans would just stop spinning after a bit, that's probably bad right? like when I start up my PC, they'll all spin, but after a little, one will stop

[crystal totem]

I don't think I can do that

[stoic island]

hm?

[crystal totem]

I bought the sick over a year ago and have since lost the packaging

[crude lagoon]

I haven't been able to put the PC under load yet cause I don't have ethernet

[crystal totem]

But it worked flawlessly in my old rig

[stoic island]

huh

@crystal totem just open a support ticket, might be under warranty still

[crystal totem]

I don't have any of the identifying info tho

Pfffft automatic repair just opened

And actualy succeeded this time

[stoic island]

lol

[pale kraken]

@stoic island

[crystal totem]

There's something that makes me tickle inside seeing that on an ultra wide monitor

[iron needle]

Nice monitor

[pale kraken]

Thank you. Uhm i heard theres a place to get cheap product keys?

[iron needle]

Ah I know

There you go

Great cheap ones

[pale kraken]

Thank you

[iron needle]

No

Problem

[hollow grail]

lol wrong store but whatever

[iron needle]

?

[hollow grail]

scdkey is cheaper and proven to not use VL keys but idk about talking abt this stuff here anyways

[iron needle]

Oh ok

Wanna move it to software?

[hollow grail]

no i mean in general prolly not allowed to talk abt gray market in this server

[crude lagoon]

I second this, I've bought from Windows from scdkeys multiple times

[iron needle]

Ohhhh ok

Shhhh secret....

[pale kraken]

No windows in scdkey

[iron needle]

Shhh

Secrets must be held

In confidence

[pale kraken]

But theres none in there?

I tried searching

[iron needle]

Shh

Trust in the secrets

[viral ore]

ebay

if your gonna get a grey market key, at least get the cheapest one

duh

[tall wasp]

aight i filled it out on the part picker site, still no idea for case and cooler. i heard that the nuctua air coolers are better than any liquid coolers

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MaxDenStark/saved/Tr93yc

[hollow grail]

@viral ore those are often vl keys

which get deactivated sometimes

[viral ore]

ok, but it's 2 dollars

[hollow grail]

true

depends whos getting the key i guess

[pseudo forge]

Will a 5500xt run games 100fps low settings 1080p?

[viral ore]

also I've never had any of mine get deactivated

[hollow grail]

yeah its luck of the draw depending on the sellers

[viral ore]

only if you change out major hardware it can happen

[hollow grail]

my win servers are activated with ebay keys

i agree though vl keys are mostly fine

[crude lagoon]

I did smth in command prompt that got rid of the watermark

and it activated my windows

[little osprey]

I bought a win 10 pro key for 9 bucks

[verbal quarry]

anyone know any good cheap places to buy windows? i found a place called computertoday and idk if its trustworthy

[hollow grail]

scdkeys if you want a 100% legitimate key, otherwise ebay

[verbal quarry]

alright thank you

[near garden]

Do you guys think the Corsair cx650x can support a rtx 3060 ti ?

[verbal quarry]

if you could can you send me a link

also use pcpartpick itll help

build your set up with the 3060ti and see if it fits

[near garden]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NB3QGq

[verbal quarry]

yea seems like it works

i see alot of builds with the ryzen 5 and 3060ti

[earnest olive]

replace the team mp33 with the team mp34

also strongly recommend replacing the 3200C16 ram with 3600C16 for $4 more

$70 is absurdly overpriced for 3200C16

[near garden]

Rip already purchased the ram

[verbal quarry]

rip

[earnest olive]

corsair cxm is known to have coil whine

[verbal quarry]

return?

[earnest olive]

is it not returnable

ryzen really likes ram speed

[near garden]

Bought it at bb

So yeah return

[earnest olive]

corsair vengeance ram is also known to be extremely inconsistent for overclocking

[verbal quarry]

ill keep that in mind

[earnest olive]

i just avoid it like the plague

[verbal quarry]

also is g.skill a good ram for ryzen?

[near garden]

So what type of ram ?

[hollow grail]

im partial to gskill

[verbal quarry]

any recommended ram for similar price?

or better for cheaper?

[earnest olive]

making a list

[verbal quarry]

alright

[hollow grail]

a lot of my ram is hynix tbh

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmMYLP

[verbal quarry]

im getting G.skill 2x16 is it worth going a different brand?

[near garden]

The only ram the bb has is Corsair ;-;

[earnest olive]

be aware that if you're looking to set your fans to white, the fans on the aio you selected are not great at producing accurate white color

why does it have to be from best buy

[near garden]

I’ll just go to microcenter

[earnest olive]

best buy frequently carries overpriced stuff

@verbal quarry product > brand

g.skill makes budget stuff and high end stuff

[near garden]

Yeah true I just like the price match m

[earnest olive]

which specific model

i buy all of my parts online never bought them from a physical store

[verbal quarry]

im doing the tridentZ model

[near garden]

Vengeance rgb pro

[hollow grail]

i buy ssds from microcenter lol

[earnest olive]

3200C16? 3600C16? 3600C15? 3600C14?

i live 400 miles from the nearest microcenter

[verbal quarry]

3200

[earnest olive]

and what cpu do you have

[hollow grail]

lol bleach

same

[verbal quarry]

ryzen 7 3700x

[earnest olive]

hm

[near garden]

3200

[earnest olive]

3200C16 is fine if you're going dual rank

you could go 3600 but it's not guaranteed to run at 3600 in dual rank

and 2x16 3200C16 is going to be comparable performance to 2x8 3600C16

[near garden]

Hmm yeah i think I’ll return the ram should I buy the psu there while I’m there they have it there

[verbal quarry]

i think its a smart call

[earnest olive]

i just don't buy anything from physical stores

prefer getting to see the prices all laid out from different sites

[verbal quarry]

why is that?

[near garden]

Yeah but I’ll look online and if i see micro center has it cheeper I’ll price match

[earnest olive]

well for one

i hate driving

if i don't have to i won't

[near garden]

Understandable lol

[earnest olive]

i also almost never end up buying all the parts for a build from the same source

usually split pretty evenly between amazon and newegg with some B&H/best buy/walmart in the mix sometimes

wherever has it cheapest

[hollow grail]

yeah

[near garden]

When was the 3060ti release date ?

[hollow grail]

although i avoid BH like the plague now

[earnest olive]

why is that?

[fleet pagoda]

It was dec 2nd

[earnest olive]

story time?

[hollow grail]

turns out theyre INCREDIBLY racist

[near garden]

Woah

[earnest olive]

ah

[near garden]

Unexpected

[hollow grail]

https://hyperallergic.com/396180/bh-photo-settles-department-of-labor-lawsuit/

like

[earnest olive]

you know

[near garden]

I’ve never heard of that store

[hollow grail]

extremely so

[earnest olive]

i was expecting you to have a story about a bad shipping or customer support experience

[hollow grail]

like racially segregated bathrooms

[earnest olive]

but not that

LOL

[fleet pagoda]

I dont wanna go to school tmr i wanna finish my build

😩

[hollow grail]

so i never buy from them

[verbal quarry]

pull all nighter

[fleet pagoda]

No way

[near garden]

I do that

[verbal quarry]

but the build

[near garden]

I stay up late most of the time my sleep schedule is messed up

[earnest olive]

but honestly

[fleet pagoda]

I could stay up all night and take some adderol

[earnest olive]

i'm of the opinion that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism and any big company that doesn't have dirt out on them just hasn't been caught yet

[hollow grail]

true

but at the same time

[near garden]

What ever you prefer up to you

[stoic verge]

Alright I got my 600$ budget gaming PC.

anyone want da specs?

[hollow grail]

at least the companies that try to hide it seem better

[fleet pagoda]

What are the specs

[verbal quarry]

sure chupa

[balmy patio]

what are thy specs

[hollow grail]

if they were way cheaper

maybe

[earnest olive]

even after the msi PR disaster i wouldn't explicitly choose a different brand if the msi product made the most sense

[near garden]

The microcenter has a ryzen 5 3600 for $199 :D

[earnest olive]

trying to bribe reviewers is nothing new

[stoic verge]

AMD ryzen 5 1600, GTX 1650 Super, 2x8 16 GB ram 2666 mhz. B450M DS3H

[earnest olive]

not bad

[fleet pagoda]

Decent

[earnest olive]

you could've done worse for 600

[fleet pagoda]

Pretty good id say for 600

[hollow grail]

lol hat makes one of us

i have a few brands i trust and msi is not one of those

that ram is gonna hurt

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/kjBZxr this was my last $600 build

[near garden]

Wait when did the 3060ti release?

[stoic verge]

I mgiht upgrade the CPU later on.

O.

[fleet pagoda]

How was ur windows 10 20cents

[earnest olive]

honestly i'm not convinced that 2666mhz ram would be a significant bottleneck with an r5 1600 and 1650 super

[near garden]

Is the 3060ti worth it tho ?

[fleet pagoda]

Yes

Im getting a 3060ti

[stoic verge]

So, upgrade the ram?

first?

[hollow grail]

depends if theyre just gaming or using it for more workstation tasks

nah ur prolly fine

[earnest olive]

@fleet pagoda contacts and bulk pricing

[stoic verge]

ight

[hollow grail]

and thats a cute little build bleach

[fleet pagoda]

I need windows on the pc im building and i cant even afford it rn

[hollow grail]

felt that contacts thing

[fleet pagoda]

Bahahah

[earnest olive]

the guy who bought it did not speak a word of english

[near garden]

I want to get into editing and streaming so I guess

[earnest olive]

i literally worked out the specs and details with him using google translate

[balmy patio]

5 bucks on ebay

[earnest olive]

[hollow grail]

@earnest olive when i work with ppl who dont know english i use deepl

[earnest olive]

one of my friends who's learning spanish offered to try translating

[hollow grail]

great at translating stuff naturally

[earnest olive]

so i let her try

he really said "go back to the google translator" 💀

[stoic verge]

lmao

[fleet pagoda]

How would i install it

[hollow grail]

lol

[near garden]

Yeah my friend said sdkeys is bad and a scam lol

[hollow grail]

thats great

ur friend is wrong

[near garden]

Ik lol

[verbal quarry]

lol

[earnest olive]

she tried

[verbal quarry]

its the thought that counts

[hollow grail]

did she pull off some peggy hill level spanish

[earnest olive]

i dunno

i don't speak a word of spanish

[balmy patio]

download windows on a usb drive FROM THE WEBSITE and you'll be rolling with the free windows, then you'll have to buy a key off of ebay for 5 bucks, it comes in your email and boom, you use the key and bam windows

[earnest olive]

it's her eleventh language i'm not gonna be too harsh about it

[hollow grail]

or from my msdn mirror

and ooooh nice

[near garden]

Yeah I already have the usb ready

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[near garden]

I just need to get a key when I’m done with the build

[fleet pagoda]

Ill do it when i finish my build

[earnest olive]

@hollow grail if you upload a picture of the infinity symbol to your server, does that make the entire thing an infinity mirror?

[near garden]

Same

[hollow grail]

yes

[earnest olive]

nzxt salivating

[verbal quarry]

what do you need to set it up on usb/

besides the usb

[hollow grail]

i just mirror all the relevant msdn isos to 1fichier tbh

[fleet pagoda]

I feel like the pc im building isnt gonna work and im terrified

[earnest olive]

let me tell you

when i was doing my first build

i mounted the cooler upside down

so i took it back off to remount it

[stoic verge]

bruh my dad is asking my older brother if he has a AMD cpu laying around.

[earnest olive]

without realizing thermal paste was gonna drip

it got into the ram slots

[fleet pagoda]

I mounted my cooler the wrong way

[hollow grail]

theyve saturated my 10gbps connection before

so i trust them

[earnest olive]

i spent 15 minutes brushing the thermal paste out of my ram slots with electric toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol

and it worked

you're gonna be fine

[fleet pagoda]

I hope so

[verbal quarry]

that was lucky

[near garden]

This is going to be my first build I’m hyped that I hope I’m getting a 3060

[fleet pagoda]

The b550m pro4 is dual channel right

[earnest olive]

all am4 boards are dual channel

[verbal quarry]

sweet

[hollow grail]

i remember for all my builds id use the inland drives tbh

[near garden]

I have a old pre built rn 🤮

[fleet pagoda]

Alr i used slots 1&3

[earnest olive]

hmm

[hollow grail]

cause their sata drives just say SATA SSD in devmgr and their pcie drives say PCIE SSD in devmgr

[earnest olive]

i haven't used the b550m pro4 but i've used the b550 pro4

[verbal quarry]

it should say it on the motherboard doesnt it?

[earnest olive]

and it definitely wanted slots 2 and 4

i would advise you to check your manual

[hollow grail]

so no one could see how much i cheaped out on the fdrives

[verbal quarry]

right next to the ram slots

[fleet pagoda]

Why does it matter?

[earnest olive]

memory topology

[fleet pagoda]

Hm ill check

[earnest olive]

for a simple rundown

[pale kraken]

Guys why cant i load my bios? But it boots windows

[earnest olive]

the vast majority of motherboards right now have traces like this

where slots 1 and 3 are daisy chained to slots 2 and 4

which means slots 1 and 3 consequently have higher latency to access

[fleet pagoda]

So 2&4 is just better

[idle hawk]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-facing-shortages-due-to-silicon-substrate-and-component-supply-issues

[earnest olive]

also the reason why 2x16 generally performs better than 4x8

[idle hawk]

Confirmed

It was due to manufacturing limitations

[fleet pagoda]

Should i move them? Or are they fine will anything bad happen

[earnest olive]

you will want to check your manual.. but every build i've ever done has wanted 2 and 4

i mean.. ram is one of the easiest things to install

why would you leave them in 1 and 3?

[hollow grail]

lol

[fleet pagoda]

I was gonna do 2&4 but my sisters bf said ur supposed to use 1&3 first

[hollow grail]

some gigabyte boards want 1 and 3

[earnest olive]

which ones?

[fleet pagoda]

Then 2&4 when installing more ram later

[hollow grail]

i ust remember a few of their b450 boards wanting it

[fleet pagoda]

Mine is asrock

[near garden]

It also says on the mobo I think

[verbal quarry]

is it worth buying the same brand motherboard as your gpu?

[earnest olive]

i've used gigabyte a320m s2h, gigabyte b450m ds3h, gigabyte b550m ds3h, gigabyte b450 aorus pro AC, gigabyte b550 aorus elite

all wanted slots 2 and 4

my own rig currently using a gigabyte board

[pale kraken]

Guys why cant i load my bios? But it boots windows

[hollow grail]

could have been asrock then

[earnest olive]

@pale kraken what company is your board from?

[pale kraken]

I just wanna see if im dual channel

Msi

[earnest olive]

correct key is DEL

if you are used to pressing F2 for asus that could be why

[hollow grail]

both of those companies are on my soft avoid list so i mix them up sometimes

[pale kraken]

Ok ill try again

[near garden]

Is asrock good I’m getting a b550 pro4

[earnest olive]

for asrock i've used the b450 pro4, b450m steel legend, b450 steel legend, b550 pro4, and a520m/ac

still all wanted slots 2 and 4

[hollow grail]

i dont like asrock personally but they make alright stuff

[earnest olive]

b550 pro4 is a great board from my experience, my only dislike about it was that the sata and usb 3.0 ports were on the side of the board

doesn't look as good for cable management

[pale kraken]

@earnest olive now im not getting any display

[verbal quarry]

nice speaker choice

[pale kraken]

My monitor just blonking blue. Thank you @verbal quarry

[earnest olive]

@near garden those cables are unavoidable on a b550 pro4 if using sata drive and/or front usb 3.0 ports

that's the only thing i disliked

[vagrant olive]

actually i can clearly see your silhouette so its working @pale kraken

[near garden]

Hmm i see nice build bro looks good

[pale kraken]

But nothing showing up😫

[vagrant olive]

oof

[earnest olive]

@pale kraken honestly i'm not sure why your bios is not working, it shouldn't be corrupted if windows is loading fine

[vagrant olive]

the rest of ur build like

lights up

and fans spin

[pale kraken]

See i can load in to windows but no bios

[vagrant olive]

wtf

[verbal quarry]

thats weird

[earnest olive]

try entering bios through this method instead

[vagrant olive]

wtfff

[verbal quarry]

i normally just spam DEL and it works XD

[hollow grail]

or

just hold shift and click restart through the start menu

if u dont wanna follow all that lol

[earnest olive]

huh didn't know that shortcut

neat

[pale kraken]

Ok restarting

[hollow grail]

ikr i love it

[near garden]

So what’s happening to the 3060s ? @idle hawk

[pale kraken]

Ok now im just getting no signal on monit9r

😫

[fleet pagoda]

On the spreadsheet people made im #102

[earnest olive]

what are you using to connect your monitor?

[fleet pagoda]

For the evga thing

[earnest olive]

displayport?

you could try hdmi

[pale kraken]

Hdmi

[earnest olive]

hm

then i don't know chief

[pale kraken]

Thank you tho.

[fleet pagoda]

Isnt a hdmi on capable of running at 60hz

[earnest olive]

well

if all you want to check is if you're in dual channel or not

[hexed dew]

_ _

[earnest olive]

hwinfo summary mode can tell you

[hollow grail]

lol

[pale kraken]

Something i download?

[earnest olive]

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

generally the best monitoring software so good to have anyways

[near garden]

They moved the release date i think

Nvidia recently announced its RTX 30-series graphics cards (GPUs), making the worst time to buy a graphics card right now. The new RTX 30-series GPUs won't be released until September 17 and later, so they're not even an option right now. Still, don't buy or preorder them until you've seen reviews and benchmarks.

[hollow grail]

yeah i love hwinfo

[earnest olive]

imagine using hwmonitor

[fleet pagoda]

I have msi monitor 😩🙏🏿

Pretty cool

[hollow grail]

i actually use hwmonitor for super basic temps

[clever eagle]

how did you guys manage to get a 3080

[fleet pagoda]

Track down scalpers and steal then

Them

[near garden]

I have a acer monitor

[verbal quarry]

im thinkin of going Asus monitors

any suggestions?

[worn cedar]

ViewSonic

[earnest olive]

@hollow grail idk i've seen hwmonitor report some very interesting temperatures

[worn cedar]

As recommended by @median acorn

ViewSonic makes good monitors

[earnest olive]

apparently they are frequently off by up to 10C on ryzen systems

and sometimes report some ludicrous numbers like 2.7 million C

👀

[worn cedar]

Or LG

[hollow grail]

@earnest olive it is so bad for amd

[earnest olive]

i've also seen it go into the millions on intel systems

so nobody is safe

[hollow grail]

that just means u need more fans

[earnest olive]

ah yes

after adding 6 million CORSAIR™️ LL140 RGB fans with COMMANDER PRO™️ controllers the temperature of my Intel™️ Core™️ silicon microprocessor will descend to a cozy 75 degrees celsius

[hollow grail]

yes

[earnest olive]

yes.

[hollow grail]

my cpu only runs 1.5m degrees cause i undervolted

[earnest olive]

❄️

[hollow grail]

ikr

wooo time to set up docker on this remote instance

fun times

still mad i cant use esxi on this box

[stoic verge]

I found a AMD Ryzen 5 1600x for 125$.

buy or no?

[hollow grail]

has anyone here had experience with setting up a malice instance in docker?

[stoic verge]

wot

no

[earnest olive]

$125 is too high for a 1600X

[iron needle]

Alright take a look and judge this one

[earnest olive]

i would offer 90 and refuse to go above 100

[hollow grail]

bleach do u know anything abt docker

[earnest olive]

never heard of it

[iron needle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Yq22V

[hollow grail]

unlucky for me i guess

[earnest olive]

i can barely use up the storage space in my regular desktop

[hollow grail]

just cause the last time i did this on a vm it was a pain in the ass

docker is like vms lite

[wheat needle]

hello i need some help about PC build

[earnest olive]

oh

i've only used vmware

[iron needle]

Price range?

[hollow grail]

basically allowing stuff to run in containers instead of needing a whole vm

[earnest olive]

@iron needle looks fine to me

i see

[iron needle]

And what are you using it for

[earnest olive]

interesting

[hollow grail]

saves a ton of resources

[iron needle]

No improvement to be made?

[earnest olive]

i used vmware to run linux for NASM so

need more than a container

[stoic verge]

90$ offer for the AMd ryzen 5 1600x?

AMD*

[earnest olive]

yeah i would say anything over 100 is overpaying

[hollow grail]

yeah docker is meant more for like

[wheat needle]

its a gaming/computer science PC

[hollow grail]

you have a server and wanna run a mailserver on it

[earnest olive]

you want to counteroffer lower than you expect to pay

[stoic verge]

aight

[obsidian temple]

can someone help me find a good 650w gold psu?

[iron needle]

What do you wanna play on it the rope game

[earnest olive]

@iron needle i mean i'm not a fan of putting micro board in mid tower but if you want to do that that's your call

[hollow grail]

but dont want to deal with the overhead or storage penalty of running an entire debian vm or whatever you use

[iron needle]

I have no choice

It will go over the limit

[earnest olive]

alright i gotta dip though i need to stop getting distracted from writing this paper

[hollow grail]

lol bleach

ily enjoy the paper

[earnest olive]

[wheat needle]

i already checked newegg canada cuz my aunt said that make a list of parts and she`ll see what she can do

she`ll buy it from there cuz shes living there and send it to me here in Philippines(south east asia)

[iron needle]

Cool

[wheat needle]

can you guys check if everything is compatible??

[iron needle]

What’s the most your willing to spend

Sure

[wheat needle]

Heres the list

[stoic verge]

this guy on ebay

I could only offer 110$

for a AMD ryzen 5 1600x

[balmy patio]

i would add a nvme drive to boot up

[wheat needle]

ok

[balmy patio]

a 500 gb is generally 60 bucks usd

lemme check how much canadians have to pay for one

[hollow grail]

whyd you make it a txt lmao

just use pcpp

[balmy patio]

im making one based on that file

hold up

[wheat needle]

sorry

[balmy patio]

it's fine

[wheat needle]

one more thing im afraid about is once she bought everything and send it to me some parts might not work or DOA

[balmy patio]

some troubleshooting should fix that

[hollow grail]

this poor box

1gb ram and 1 core

[balmy patio]

and also tell her to make sure to add foam on the inside and outside of the pc, cuz the gpu likes to sag during shipping

[hollow grail]

it doesnt know whats coming its way

[wheat needle]

or should i just tell her that assemble the pc in canada?

[hollow grail]

depends if she has instant foam

[balmy patio]

ah yes

[hollow grail]

i ship pcs i build without the gpu most of the time

[balmy patio]

that's what it's called

[hollow grail]

put the gpu in its oem box

and just send both

[vagrant olive]

guys i just realized the reason that there hasnt been a remake of the verge pc build tutorial is bc tweezer man cant get his hands on another i7 hexa core cpu (he didn't get one)

[hollow grail]

tweezer man

[vagrant olive]

allen wrench

[balmy patio]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rgnBTJ ight that's the list maX sent

newegg discord server shall do their thing

[wheat needle]

thanks

[vagrant olive]

whats the total budget

about 12-1300?

[keen haven]

My pc is a Ryzen 2600 msi 1660 super 32 gb ram

[vagrant olive]

wtf

ur ram might be the best part of that pc lol

[balmy patio]

that's still a pretty good pc

for 1080p gameing

[vagrant olive]

tru

@wheat needle are you trying to get ur parts now or in a few months

[wheat needle]

i just picked the most cheapest ones

[vagrant olive]

oh

[balmy patio]

and also

do you care about modularity

[vagrant olive]

btw prices are going to be super inflated right now

bc its the holiday season

[keen haven]

ryzen 5 2600 is way cheaper then 3600 and almost as good

[hollow grail]

are you booting off of a wd blue

[vagrant olive]

if you're able to wait a few months until after the holiday seasons over

[hollow grail]

nooooo

[vagrant olive]

you can get way better prices

[balmy patio]

no not rlly

[hollow grail]

also that case is subpar

[balmy patio]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ftCWfP i changed some stuff to it

might also change the psu to sum else but i decided to keep it

[keen haven]

The nzxt h510i is awesome thats what i have

[hollow grail]

really subpar airflow

[vagrant olive]

is the airflow on it better than h510

bc

h510 is absolute

[hollow grail]

on that nzxt

[vagrant olive]

ly bad

[hollow grail]

like wowie

[keen haven]

h510 doesnt have lighting

h510i does tho

[balmy patio]

bruh but how does it breathe

[vagrant olive]

im 99% sure that imma get banned the next time i swear and thats keepin me sweating

[wheat needle]

well we might wait for the rtx 3060ti availability

[hollow grail]

might as well just cover your pc with a blanket

[vagrant olive]

and if ur going for next gen stuff u should also get a 5600x

$300

[keen haven]

rtx 3060 ti is gonna be sold out for months

[vagrant olive]

yeah

[wheat needle]

atleast it will give her time to save up

[vagrant olive]

every high midrange pcs gonna have one of those by mid 2021

[keen haven]

I got the 1660 super like 2 months ago for my new pc so I can't justify replacing it

[vagrant olive]

ik its awful

i feel bad for anyone whos trying to actually buy parts this season

[hollow grail]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qTrQGq

id do this

$10 more for 4tb compared to 2

fr

[keen haven]

that ryzen 5 3600 is SO overpriced

[vagrant olive]

ngl those starter pro things that nzxt does are prolly gonna sell a ton

[wheat needle]

so we have to wait it out until next year?

[vagrant olive]

if you want good prices

yeah

[keen haven]

also get the asus rog strix B-450-F gaming

[hollow grail]

i literally just fixed the storage and the case

left everything else how it was

[obsidian wigeon]

gigakek

[hollow grail]

lol

[vagrant olive]

i have no idea whats going on but for some reason psu stock/prices are going insane

theyre spiking up and down hourly

[keen haven]

change the motherboard

[hollow grail]

you wanna fix it up more foxy?

[obsidian wigeon]

why is hyper 212 so overrated

nah

im havin fun

[hollow grail]

idc about the board or anything lol

[vagrant olive]

amd stock cooler based

[hollow grail]

same foxy

finally setting up my malice instance

tired of giving google all my malware samples

[keen haven]

get the asus rog strix B-450F gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

pog

[little osprey]

poggers

[hollow grail]

micah would you shut up

i fixed the storage

and the case

[obsidian wigeon]

if you wanna do smth about it

fix it yoself

[hollow grail]

the link is right there if you want to change the build list

[obsidian wigeon]

clicks away

[hollow grail]

im busy and fixed the two biggest issues with the build

[vagrant olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCwfht

epic build

😎

[keen haven]

ok not my prob if ur board sucks

[obsidian wigeon]

why not fix it lool

[hollow grail]

its not even my build you idiot

lmao

[keen haven]

lol

[hollow grail]

nah idc enough to fight abt it

micah he was booting off of a ssd

[obsidian wigeon]

k imma try fixin

[hollow grail]

fixed that

[obsidian wigeon]

i hate the hyper 212 being overrated

[hollow grail]

hdd*

could have gotten 4tb instead of 2 for another $10

fixed that

case was bad

fixed that

[keen haven]

oh dang just saw that the board I recommended jumped by 35 dollars lol

[hollow grail]

board suboptimal and the cpu is nuts price wise

but whatever

[keen haven]

it was the same price as the one you had

not anymore tho

[hollow grail]

i didnt pick the board lol

[keen haven]

my bad

[hollow grail]

u can tell i didnt pick it cause its a gigabyte board

[keen haven]

I got the asus rog strix one like 2 months ago and it was 129,99

it was a great board for the price

now its 164.99 tho

[hollow grail]

oof lol

[obsidian wigeon]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Gwkrmk

i did this

[wheat needle]

@hollow grail can you post your build again?? im talking to her right now

[hollow grail]

also why would i go from 550 to 450

let me fix it real quick i just tweaked some stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

kek

[hollow grail]

@wheat needle https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/w9tF4d

there

[vagrant olive]

someone should make a bot that auto replies to pcpartpicker links with bullying

[obsidian wigeon]

pog

lili did choose a good board

[vagrant olive]

example messages:
dude ur build is so overpriced i could get something better for 400 dollars less
why are u doing an intel build thats awful
that part is so bad

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

then pcpartpicker bot would be amd shill

[vagrant olive]

im not very creative

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

[vagrant olive]

:truetrue:

detects if its amd or intel and chooses the right message

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[hollow grail]

the bot would just be like

i hope you stub your toe on that case

[wheat needle]

thanks for the suggestions guys

[hollow grail]

it has to be minor spite

"i hope that fan rattles"

"hope ur paste is watery"

"lmao hope u get coil whine loser"

[vagrant olive]

yees

[keen haven]

ok im back heres a list a threw together just now

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/theflash05/saved/#view=d7DBjX

[obsidian wigeon]

665p

ew

and stock cooler works fine already lol

[keen haven]

I don't have the 665p on there dude and the stock cooler stinks

I used it for a while and had to replace it

[jagged ember]

no stock cooler is fine

also, samsung ssd

expenso

[keen haven]

nah my cpu got too hot with it

[cloud oasis]

turn fan curve up

[keen haven]

samsung ssds are the best

[jagged ember]

sure, but not at their price point

[cloud oasis]

remember

[jagged ember]

you have SN750 and MP34 as good contenders

with the 750 being the cheaper of the bunch

[wheat needle]

ahhh do i have to worry about rams compatibility?

[upper cobalt]

wdym

[wheat needle]

like if its not in the QVL

[jagged ember]

as long as they're the same sticks they will be fine

i'm assuming your mobo and ram are DDR4

[latent condor]

@south ermine first techsoure then r/battlestations now newegg

Good job

people need to see that

[south ermine]

yep

gotta make sure everyone see its

lel

[latent condor]

deff

[south ermine]

are you tracking me 👀

[latent condor]

its amazing btw

[south ermine]

lol, i was happy with the product

[latent condor]

no im just watching alot about pcs

[wheat needle]

they are ddr4

[south ermine]

hopefully will make it on rfp

soon

[latent condor]

yup

[jagged ember]

its fine max

[latent condor]

message me it when the episode comes out

i wanna see it

[jagged ember]

just get the same sticks

[latent condor]

ok good night ima go to bed

[obsidian wigeon]

i saw 665p in there once

[vagrant olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxKcCJ/crucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8

big god tier ssd

[obsidian wigeon]

samsung ssds are overpriced

also lol

p1 is like 660p

qlc

[vagrant olive]

big words

[latent condor]

idk but isnt that #storage-devices idk

[hollow grail]

p1 is alr

[obsidian wigeon]

qlc tho

it's slow too

[vagrant olive]

like

hdd slow?

[obsidian wigeon]

no, but slower than a2000

[vagrant olive]

idk man $10 more for the p2 version

[hollow grail]

and a2000 isnt the speediest lol

p2 is dramless

[obsidian wigeon]

p2 is trash

dramless qlc