building-and-recc-chat

[spiral grove]

its no better then the regular ssd

[whole harbor]

im toinf to bed yall

Cya

[ripe wedge]

its better than your original ssd u had in your list tho

but not by much

[hollow grail]

dont encourage that

[jagged ember]

I'd rather get something sata 4 at least

[hollow grail]

m.2 sata has no purpose existing

[ripe wedge]

^

[jagged ember]

But, yeah screw m.2 sata

[spiral grove]

I was going to share my nvme but itsd out of stock so meh

[hollow grail]

literally 0 point

[jagged ember]

What happened to mp34 and sn750 recommendations lol

[ripe wedge]

mp34 was recommended earlier

but

[spiral grove]

what are you talking about lili

[ripe wedge]

I think the sn750 and 970 evo are about same price on sale

[jagged ember]

Ooh

[spiral grove]

isnt nvme = m.2

[jagged ember]

Ooooooo

[ripe wedge]

with the mp34

[jagged ember]

Then screw it, get 750 or 970

[ripe wedge]

better dram

[jagged ember]

M.2 is form factor

Nvme is the protocol or something

[spiral grove]

well they always seem to be hand in hand when shopping

[jagged ember]

Usually, yes

Hence m.2 sata being a sin

[ripe wedge]

only way I see sata m.2 being decent at all are in those big m.2 drop in cards

lots of storage in small amount of space and for cheaper

[spiral grove]

i just know I get over 3000 mbps read/write

better then the 500 or so i was getting with sata

anways off to work i go

[warm kindle]

should i use the ssd in this

[ripe wedge]

I mean it will be fine but the samsung 970 evo is basically same price on sale right now

same for WD SN750

[jagged ember]

Might as well get the 970

So you can flex on people or something lol

[ripe wedge]

lol

[warm kindle]

ok

[ripe wedge]

ill try to fix up ur list hold up

[fringe wharf]

Are x570 bios and b550 bios the same or no

I assume no

[ripe wedge]

no

[fringe wharf]

Ok

[ripe wedge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nTwWrr @warm kindle

this is pretty good but unsure about the cpu

because the ryzen cpus are hard to get rn at a decent price

let me see if I can do anything like intel i3 10100

[warm kindle]

😘

[fringe wharf]

This is what I download right?

[ripe wedge]

F11K

[fringe wharf]

Ok. When I went into the bios it said x570 though

Even though I on b550 page

When I downloaded

[ripe wedge]

strange

[fringe wharf]

Ok I think I got it

[ripe wedge]

@warm kindle whats your max budget for this pc?

[fringe wharf]

I tried again and it says b550

[opal stratus]

If I currently have team group mp34 is it worth moving windows to a 970evo?

I already bought it

[ripe wedge]

I mean

it will perform better

[warm kindle]

about 700

[ripe wedge]

ah

[opal stratus]

Noticeably tho?

Bc I heard it isn’t easy to switch

[ripe wedge]

yeah cloning softwares can be funky

[opal stratus]

I suppose I’ll leave it then lol

[ripe wedge]

but maybe noticeably different performance

[fringe wharf]

Bruh this bios update bouta take a year

Well like 10 mins. It’s just going slower then I thought

[ripe wedge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qD4zZZ @warm kindle the case is meh but the i3 10100 comes with a cpu stock cooler but should be fine. I have a Z490 motherboard up there because it gives you an upgrade route if you want it later down the line and allow you to be able to overclock a K series chip if wanted

the hard drive included in the list is optional but decent if u need one

[fringe wharf]

Thas a cheap psu

[warm kindle]

oohh

[ripe wedge]

yeah @fringe wharf but its good

I have a cv450 in my other rig and it runs perfectly fine

[fringe wharf]

Can I put 2 together and get a 1000w lmao

[ripe wedge]

lol not exactly how it works

[fringe wharf]

Rip

Woulda been cheaper

[ripe wedge]

@warm kindle also that 1660 super is out of stock currently but all the other ones are way over priced

[fringe wharf]

Is the 1080 better then 1660 sup or are they ab the same

[ripe wedge]

this one isnt extremely terrible but if u need one now id go with it

I mean the gtx 1080 would probably destroy it in 1440p

but not sure 100%

yeah I think the gtx 1080 would be a lot better

but not sure what it goes for on used market

[fringe wharf]

Ok. Cause I got a 1080 and I was curious how it stacks up. My build is def bottlenecks by gpu though lmao. It’s ok I’ll upgrade eventually

I got mine for 245

[ripe wedge]

whats your cpu?

[fringe wharf]

But they getting more expensive

3800x

[ripe wedge]

and your system prolly isnt bottlenecked by ur gpu

no ur not bottlenecked lol

[fringe wharf]

Oh?

I thought it would have been

[ripe wedge]

you can get the full potential out of your gpu

[fringe wharf]

Ima prob get the new ryzen gpus eventually

[ripe wedge]

like the 6800xt?

that would be a pretty large upgrade

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-AMD-RX-6800-XT/3603vs4089 take this with a grain of salt

[fringe wharf]

Yea. How much is it?

[ripe wedge]

$800 iirc

but they are having stock issues like nvidia rn

[fringe wharf]

Oof almost double if it’s legit

[warm kindle]

why are the intel motherboards so expensive

[ripe wedge]

they usually are a tad more expensive

[fringe wharf]

Idk I got lucky w my used mobo too lmao

[ripe wedge]

but I wouldnt get a lower end mobo like the b460 imo

[opal stratus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/AtnS/saved/#view=QDFQ6h

Could someone please check this

And recommend a psu if you know of one

[ripe wedge]

@opal stratus it looks good all but the ram

[still roost]

Pengu#1204 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[opal stratus]

Oops

[ripe wedge]

ive heard ryzen doesnt like the corsair vengence ram as much

[opal stratus]

Oh really

[ripe wedge]

I would look at getting G.skill 3600mhz ripjaws

[fringe wharf]

I think the ram could speed up but not sure.

[ripe wedge]

ryzen also likes faster ram

[opal stratus]

Ok, I think my friend already got the ram, how big of a deal is it?

[fringe wharf]

Seems like big cpu for small gpu. But that can fixed down the line

[ripe wedge]

I mean it will work with it

[opal stratus]

Yeah it def is, the budget increased and we had already gotten the gpu lmao

[ripe wedge]

but ryzen just sometimes doesnt like vengeance ram as much

[opal stratus]

Ah ok

[ripe wedge]

that price is high for the 3700X

[fringe wharf]

Ima upgrade to trident z eventually

[ripe wedge]

the case doesnt look great either @opal stratus

not great airflow

[fringe wharf]

I would say try used cause your getting a cooler anyways

[ripe wedge]

id look at TD500 mesh

cooler master

[fringe wharf]

Does it come w fans?

[ripe wedge]

3

[opal stratus]

F4-3600C16D-16GVKC https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880?Item=N82E16820232880&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-232-880-_-11302020

[ripe wedge]

argb fans

[opal stratus]

This a better deal?

[ripe wedge]

yeah those are good

g.skill hasnt let me down and their warrantee is amazing

if ur ram dies at all they will replace lol

[fringe wharf]

Ooo. Cause I got the p400a digital cause of gamers nexus and the 3 fans lol

[opal stratus]

Ok cool ty

So case is scuffed but I already have it lmao

[ripe wedge]

also for PSU id look at something like a corsair RM650x or maybe like rm850x just depends on how much u wanna upgrade in the future

[fringe wharf]

Drill some holes lmao

[opal stratus]

Ok will do and I thought just putting pc in a window would solve it?

[ripe wedge]

in a window?

[fringe wharf]

Out the window;)

Rain = water cooled

[ripe wedge]

lol

[opal stratus]

Wait wtffff why is rm850x so much

[ripe wedge]

probably third party

[opal stratus]

I wanna get one for myself too cuz 6800 or 6800xt sometime

[ripe wedge]

whats the price of the rm850x

850 is the wattage btw

[opal stratus]

Like 170-280

[ripe wedge]

oof

[fringe wharf]

I got a Phanteks amp for ab 110

[opal stratus]

Isn’t that enough power tho?

[ripe wedge]

I bought mine in oct for $140

[fringe wharf]

750 though

[ripe wedge]

its more than enough

[opal stratus]

For a 6800xt I mean

[ripe wedge]

but for upgrade room for new cards that are power hungry its good

but lets look for something else

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

this is a good list for power supplies

[fringe wharf]

Is 750 good for me?

[ripe wedge]

what gpu

cpu

[idle hawk]

The real jake from state farm?

[ripe wedge]

yes

im wearing khakis and I live here in my freetime

[idle hawk]

Where's my joker discount

[ripe wedge]

non existant

[idle hawk]

Damm

[fringe wharf]

3800x and 1080 gunna upgrade to 6800

[idle hawk]

I needed a discount for 3080 at least

[ripe wedge]

lol

@fringe wharf then yea id recommend 750W or even 850W for more headroom

the gpus seem to keep climbing in power usage lol

[foggy hazel]

6800 (non XT) is perfectly fine with a 650w

[idle hawk]

Xfx card hit a max of 238w at 2.6ghz core clock speeds according to jayz2cents

[ripe wedge]

oh yeah I misread

what naed said @fringe wharf

[idle hawk]

Naed will murder if recommended more then 650w psu lmao

[fringe wharf]

Wb xt

[ripe wedge]

1600W platinum required for GT 710 gpu

[idle hawk]

Yes lol

[ripe wedge]

probably 750W or 850W

[idle hawk]

Jake, naed will stab you

[ripe wedge]

yes

[idle hawk]

My opinion is different

I prefer a higher wattage psu

Just for that extra cushion

I'm running a 1300w

[ripe wedge]

I have a 850W

[fringe wharf]

Lmao. Well I have a 750 so

[ripe wedge]

I thought i would be able to get a 3080 sooner

[idle hawk]

I have the gigabyte aorus master rtx 3080

[ripe wedge]

must be nice

[idle hawk]

And it black screen on me doing port royal

Not blue screen

Black screened and system power cycled

And yes I love my baby

Her name is big chungus

I can speak for my 3080 and say she's power hungry

[ripe wedge]

f

[fringe wharf]

Lmao

[idle hawk]

Again I'm going to get stabbed by naed if I recommend a higher wattage psu

Put the knife down @foggy hazel lol jk

[marsh gorge]

just wanna say thanks for everybody's help, ordered all the parts last night

[warm kindle]

when is it coming

[marsh gorge]

tomorrow

[warm kindle]

nice

[opal stratus]

Congrats 🎊

[marsh gorge]

ty 😊

[opal stratus]

Y’all think rdna 2 prices will come down anytime soon?

Everything’s like $125 above msrp rn 🤢

[warm kindle]

idk

[ripe wedge]

if they can get their stock straight then maybe

[warm kindle]

is this a good deal

[ripe wedge]

send it

[warm kindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xgzFf7/evoo-gaming-eg-lp5-bk-156-1920-x-1080-144-hz-core-i7-9750h-26-ghz-16-gb-memory-512-gb-storage-laptop-eg-lp5-bk

[ripe wedge]

its not terrible but the build quality might be @warm kindle

but if you get that laptop there is limited upgradability

also weaker than desktop

a laptop 1660 ti is way weaker than desktop 1660 ti

the 9750H is good tho

[fringe wharf]

Oh I forgot to say. I was able to update me bios

[ripe wedge]

I have it in my gaming laptop

nice

[fringe wharf]

Mhm thx for the help

[glacial umbra]

would the 3100 be decent for it's price?

like 110 USD

[ripe wedge]

yeah

not bad if u find it at that price

[glacial umbra]

alright

been contemplating saving us for the extra performance and cores with the 3600 but

I don't think I'll really need it

[ripe wedge]

in the future yes but in the future you can always upgrade

[glacial umbra]

yep

thanks for the advice

[little osprey]

what r good white rgb fans?

[shut fiber]

hey guys. Do you think for streaming and gaming a 5600x and a 3080 is a good idea or do i need to splurge for the 5900x

[signal minnow]

I feel like a 5600x will do fine

[ripe wedge]

5600x should be fine but if you edit a ton if go for the 5800x because it would use those extra cores

[fervent quail]

Streaming is more network intensive than cpu. Rendering edited videos is where that high core count will really come in handy if thats what you are doing. People stream on a lot weaker systems than a 5600

Also if you are worried about cpu then maybe look into a stream deck but that will cost more and is only for professionals/enthusiasts with money to blow

[ripe wedge]

Could just get a spare keyboard to use for macros

And use that instead of streamdeck

Cheaper

Like I think some of razors keyboards are completely reprogrammable so you can just make a button go to an app

[blissful thicket]

Is there a huge difference between the i7-10700K vs the i7-10700KF in performance?

[ripe wedge]

I think it is very slight

Like 1 or 2%

[bold rock]

What does the f even mean? I forget

[ripe wedge]

No integrated graphics

[bold rock]

oh yeah

[ripe wedge]

I don’t use the integrated graphics tho

Gets auto disabled when not in use by my bios

I can turn it on tho but I think it stays a tad cooler with it off

[blissful thicket]

Would it be worth to spend $80 less for a i7-10700KF then?

[ripe wedge]

Yeah if u are using a dedicated gpu

[fervent quail]

@ripe wedge some of the higher end stream decks handle the switching and adding in the overlays and all that, reducing stress on the cpu

[ripe wedge]

Ah

[fervent quail]

But those are the expensive ones that aren't for most people

[ripe wedge]

Well I’m not a streamer so don’t know too much about elgato stuff and such

Hence the Intel cpu

Lol

[fervent quail]

I help out live streaming as a tech lol

[ripe wedge]

I mean this can stream fine but amd would be better

[fervent quail]

I used to do twitch on my 7700k with no issued accept my crap internet

[ripe wedge]

My internet is garbage too

2mb up

30 down

[fervent quail]

Mine isn't bad but I live in an old house that hates wifi lol

[ripe wedge]

Lol brick house?

[fervent quail]

Yay hard wood florrs/plaster walls

Yes brick too

[ripe wedge]

Oof

[fervent quail]

And wow I can't type even with autocorrect helping me

Time for bed I believe

[ripe wedge]

Yeah same here

[fervent quail]

Almost 6am

[snow wagon]

6800 XT IN STOCK ON NEWEGG

[fervent quail]

Getting my 3d printer tomorrow hype

[raw mist]

guys what is a better ssd? crucial p1 1tb or the teamgroup mp33 1tb?

[exotic kiln]

crucial for me

nvr heard of teamgroup

[lyric thistle]

MP34 better than both

[arctic jungle]

mp34 is king @exotic kiln

teamgroup is amazing

ram is meh on highend

but ssd is op

mp34 pog?

mp34 pog.

[exotic kiln]

im sry if i sound dumb but i hv nvr seen anyone use teamgroup hardware

but if u say so

mp34 pog

[stoic island]

mp34 pog

dark pro pog

[outer dove]

bruhh

[stoic island]

low end not pog

[outer dove]

I was about to buy my parts today

[exotic kiln]

but?

[outer dove]

and i found out new egg doesnt ship to south africa

[exotic kiln]

rippp

[outer dove]

And most of the parts had free shipping

[exotic kiln]

just get the same parts from local store

or amazon

[outer dove]

Shipping costs alot

no local stores

[stoic island]

hm

[outer dove]

And amazon shipping prices are insane

[stoic island]

rip

[exotic kiln]

trueee

[stoic island]

amazon.de?

[lyric thistle]

aliexpress?

[outer dove]

ew

[lyric thistle]

smh

[outer dove]

I've been saving the whole year

just to find out I cant get the parts today

I waited for cyber monday :(

[exotic kiln]

rip

[little osprey]

Aliexpress is decent if your used market is trash

Also rip

[whole harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-cry-sad-tears-upset-gif-11667710

🗑️

stock is horrible

[arctic jungle]

obviously

only way to get a new radeon card is via prebuilt

[gleaming quartz]

or buying them through a mom and pop computer part store or something

[still bay]

i remember someone telling me amd stock was going to be good :(

liar

[gleaming quartz]

yeah same

thats what they say to get peoples hopes up

[hazy rune]

No one said their stock would be good

We knew it would sell out immediately lol

[warm kindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qD4zZZ

would i be able to swap the 1660 for a gt 710 until it comes back in stock?

[still bay]

if its just a 1660 why dont u just wait

a gt 710 is really really bad iirc

also ur cpu has intel uhd graphics

[little osprey]

710 is a display adapter
You shouldn't use it at all.

Also yeah your cpu has intregated graphics...also that build have some stuff wrong

[jagged ember]

Just hold onto your 1660

[still bay]

its not like if u spend double or half on ur gpu ur gonna get double or half "fps"

[little osprey]

Like the ram timing and the psu
When

[still bay]

it doesnt work like that

yeah ur ram and psu are messed up

[little osprey]

Oh
Wait also the mobo is wrong lol

[still bay]

i think 3200mhz cl16 would really be better if ur on a budget'

[little osprey]

3200 cl16 would be better

Also a cx/evga br/s12iii would be way better on that build
And Swap to a b series mobo

[still bay]

rmx is good but expensive iirc

[little osprey]

Unless you gonna buy a K chip for later

[little osprey]

Yeah and it is also modular but meh, most people won't really need

The stock is so bad 333 dollars for a r5 3600 in usd

[hazy rune]

I have rmx and I just want to point out it is incredibly quiet

If that’s not important to you you can spend less $

[warm kindle]

what is the rmx

[little osprey]

Psu

Full modular psu in that case.

[warm kindle]

what ram should i use instead

[little osprey]

3200 cl16
Or 3600 cl16

[gentle mica]

Can anyone make a pcpartpicker that is $700 including cyber Monday deals if they have them

[lyric thistle]

There are no deals

[gleaming quartz]

yeah

only pain.

the msi rtx 3070 is $1000 rn

[still bay]

does it matter what kind of fan splitter i get

like brand wise

i see one from silverstone

[sinful hornet]

Fan splitters shouldn’t matter, no

Can even make them yourself I’m pretty sure

[gleaming quartz]

the only thing that matters is if you have enough power going through the splitter to power the fans being provided

[still bay]

but a 3 to 1 is fine

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812162059?Description=fan splitter&cm_re=fan_splitter-_-12-162-059-_-Product

[foggy hazel]

generally yes

[still bay]

i nthe first picture tho it looks like it has 3 pins?

like its missing one

[foggy hazel]

normal

[still bay]

wdym

u mean its just looks like it does or what

[foggy hazel]

its normal that "some" of the connectors on 2+ splitters are only 3 pins

[still bay]

commander pro a worthy investment?

[foggy hazel]

no idea

[still bay]

10 dollars off

im buying it.

[warm kindle]

is this better ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3TGj2

[violet harness]

Swap out the NVME that is overpriced

[warm kindle]

what is it usually

[foggy hazel]

that price is fine for it @warm kindle (the nvme that is)

[warm kindle]

uhh sure

thanks

[hazy rune]

@warm kindle Z490 is probably overkill for 10100

[little osprey]

Ye...unless he gonna buy a K chip later on.

[hazy rune]

However may be good to keep it if you ever want to go unlocked 11th gen

[warm kindle]

i probably wont upgrade it anytime soon

[hazy rune]

Then you could get away with an h410 honestly

[foggy hazel]

its a solid enough price for a intel board

which leaves open the possibility of an upgrade

but as FireTitan is saying, you could shave a bit off the price.

but its a trade-off

[warm kindle]

would it affect gameplay if i used a h410

[hazy rune]

I mean you could buy something cheaper and buy a 10400 instead

Which you will notice more

Motherboards are all about features

[warm kindle]

what about the ram

[hazy rune]

Ram is ram. It’s fine.

[little osprey]

Mobo won't affect perfomance at all

[stoic island]

mobo cap on ram frequency does

but mobo doesn't directly affect performance

[warm kindle]

i changed the motherboard to a h410

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k67tW3

would this work

[violet harness]

Looks fine to me

[warm kindle]

thanks

[zenith bone]

any pc builder experts here? having a small issue related to graphic card

[little osprey]

Well, just say your issue here and someone will asnwer.

[zenith bone]

Installed the new Gigabyte RTX 3070 to my Rog strix z370-e motherboard, but now I hear 1 long beep and 4 short beeps when I turn on my PC which apparently is a sign for an issue with graphics card? pcpartpicker says there should be no compatibility issues. My PSU is an EVGA 740W Gold 80+ fully modular. Any suggestions what could be wrong?

[little osprey]

Seems like a issue on the cpu or cpu fan

[zenith bone]

hmm, I read that as well. But when I put my old graphics card back in I have no issues..?

[little osprey]

Does it output video?
The new graphics card

[zenith bone]

I assume so

[jagged ember]

Have you tried the solutions in that post?

[zenith bone]

CPU Fan looks like it is installed correctly. Had it there for 2 years with no issues

[little osprey]

Have you tried the stuff on the bottom?

Like clear cmos or load the default bios

[zenith bone]

Will try the default boot

[tepid shoal]

Hey Guys, i am trying to finish my build.

I am trying to go with an RX 6800XT or an RX 6900XT
Maybe a full tower and some AIO for the processor. Any Ideas?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fGKgJf

[hazy rune]

@warm kindle Keep in mind you’re buying a mAtx mobo in an atx case. Since you have a glass panel it may look a little small.

Absolutely nothing wrong with it functionally though

@tepid shoal Buy a prebuilt unless you want to wait until next year

[tepid shoal]

@hazy rune how long into next year? I am moving to Germany and want to build it there mid december

[hazy rune]

I’m not sure about stock outside US. I’ve heard it’s hit or miss

6800xt is harder to find than 3080

[little osprey]

Unlikely you will be able to build Mid december due to stock
Unless you stay night and day waiting for restock.

[warm kindle]

when do you think the 1660 super will be back in stock

[little osprey]

In reality nobody knowns
Only people who works inside the industry would be able to give a answer

And those people aren't here.

So the answer is: you gotta wait till it's on stock.

[warm kindle]

yikes

[formal cosmos]

Does this case have good airflow? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBVG3C/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011201-ww

[severe axle]

yes

[atomic tiger]

Yes, I would thinnk so

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/337DDEF3UYZZW?ref_=wl_share

is this a good build?

[severe axle]

I wouldn't get that case

on a budget, doesn't mean you should have low airflow

[atomic tiger]

😐 I know plenty streamers who use it

but okay

[stoic island]

4000d airflow is good

H510 is dumb

If I see anyone with a H510 I can assume they're bad with PCs

[severe axle]

get the nr600 instead

[stoic island]

:p

[atomic tiger]

Ok thx

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Ventilation-Tempered/dp/B07PJ18S78/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=nr600&qid=1606754521&s=electronics&sr=1-2

that?

[warm axle]

I don't think I should build a pc now

correct?

[atomic tiger]

whats the reasoning for not building oone?

[stoic island]

Prices

[atomic tiger]

You can make cheap ass pcs that work pret'y gud

[stoic island]

@atomic tiger prices and stock right now is absolute crap

Try to find a 3600 at 200

Try to get any 3070/3080/3090/6800/xt/6900xt in stock

Any 5600x/5800x/5900x/5950x

Any 1650/super/1660/super at a good price

Gone are the days of 160$ 1650 super, they're all like 200$

[atomic tiger]

u put the $ in the wrong place

[little osprey]

Yeah...it's good to build a pc next year

[stoic island]

I use discord as spoken English

With a hundred and sixty dollars

[little osprey]

You still can build some cheap used pc though

[stoic island]

It's just not a good time compared to others

I'd wait if possible

[little osprey]

Yeah, waiting is better.

[stoic island]

Ofc you can build a good pc now, but il worried more about the relative value to other times

[dense lion]

which one should i get.
ASRock X570 TAICHI ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PRO (tag me)
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-taichi/p/N82E16813157883 or https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-pro/p/N82E16813119353?Description=asus tuf pro&cm_re=asus_tuf pro-_-13-119-353-_-Product&quicklink=true

[warm kindle]

out of those two i would get the first

[stoic island]

I'll respond when I get back to pc and compare em

[stable oxide]

quick question

i have a b550 motherboard

and a pcie 3.0 nvme ssd

[stoic island]

It'll work

Pcie is backwards compatible

[stable oxide]

yeah, but is there any benefit to putting it in the top slot

or should i just stick it in the bottom

so it's easier to upgrade

should i eventually get a 4.0 ssd

[stoic island]

More bandwidth, and it comes earlier in the chain

Dunno what it's called

It gets more bandwidth to the CPU

[stable oxide]

direct access instead of going through a controller i think

so yeah i'll put it top slot

[stoic island]

Yea

It's not using one of the lanes split from chipset

[warm kindle]

i think this build is done right?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k67tW3

[little osprey]

Yep...i guess you gonna wait for 1660 super then?

[warm kindle]

yeah

[little osprey]

I would recommend a used a rx 570.or 580

If you are waiting for 1660 super or the 3070

[warm kindle]

like something to use while i wait for the 1660 or as a replacement

[little osprey]

Ye

570 and 580 can be found around 100$
Or 85$

On ebay

[warm kindle]

?

[little osprey]

Im gonna build my first pc soon :)

[stable oxide]

another question

msi b550 motherboard

i think its an mpg gaming carbon

ez debug led runs down the list, cpu led turns off, then it checks ram, good, then video card, its good, then it stays on boot

i assume the boot led on means that there is no os installed on any drive

not that there are no drives connected

because my m.2 is in

unless it needs to run tests on the drives?

[hazy rune]

Can you get to bios?

If not, OS isn’t the problem

[stable oxide]

ah, i have it all built out of case right now

but i'll hook up a little monitor for testing quick

[still bay]

anyone know if the phanteks p500a has software that can control the fans or is it just a button on the case

same with the ekwb fans

[ebon matrix]

uhhhhh why are prices going up?

[still bay]

stock

low stock + high demand = higher prices

[ebon matrix]

true

thats how society works

[still bay]

and bc of christmas so many ppl are getting pc's

yup

[stable oxide]

got it, into bios, guess i just need to install windows

[still bay]

all u need for windows is a usb and an old pc or laptop

theres other methods i tghink but thats what i do and i think most do

[steep wedge]

just waitin for my parts, waitin for my parts, got 10 more days just to wait for my parts.....

[still bay]

lol ik that feeling

i check my like shipping every 2 seconds as if itll come quicker\

[stable oxide]

yeah, i have several old laptops so I have a windows stick ready

[still bay]

nice

[dull ferry]

ah yes

info

[little osprey]

add a gt 730 to that up there

[fair dove]

what is the best 300 dollar graphics card rn?

[still bay]

lets go baby current running a h510i with NO INTAKE FANS and 2 exhausts!

[little osprey]

a gt 730 totally 🙂

[dull ferry]

yikes

no intakes

and nzxt

[still bay]

yeah so

[dull ferry]

lmao

[still bay]

a few years ago i tried to put an aio in, i didnt have the mounting for am4 so inmstead of buying it i just sold the aio

issue is i ALSO sold (with it) like the front thing where u mount the fans

[little osprey]

Nice, a i5 2400

Better than my 2100

[still bay]

so now i cant mount any fans for intake lmao

[little osprey]

i have a lenovo think center

that i "rigged"

[dull ferry]

sad

[little osprey]

not good for streaming on tho lmao which i do :/

[little osprey]

Oof..get a xeon

If you can replace the cpu

i have 5$ in my wallet

i can aafford everything

Thats bigger oof

[dull ferry]

nice

[little osprey]

Meanwhile i hope.one day to buy a xeon tho

E3 1230 atleast

what a xeon

[dull ferry]

server cpus

[little osprey]

Server cpu

[dull ferry]

theyre good deals

can find decent ones for like 20-30 bucks

[little osprey]

Old xeons that is
Newer xeons are overpriced af

[dull ferry]

^

[little osprey]

once i start making money off of streaming i will try and build a system

Good luck then

[still bay]

idk if i should do the vision g or the MAXIMUS XII APEX

price difference is like 240 dolalrs but

[little osprey]

i need help

with rec

obs keeps skipping freames

frams*

frames**

[dull ferry]

||system too weak||

and possibly network

[little osprey]

i have gigablast

[dull ferry]

gigabit?

[still bay]

honestlyyyy i might get a z73

over the ekwb

[little osprey]

somthing like that but cox calls it gigablast

[dull ferry]

yeah its system

too weak

[little osprey]

it didn't have a problem when using intergrated ghraphics

but i put the gt 730 in and then it started skipping frames

rip

well ill hunt for givaways until i can afford to build a system

[atomic tiger]

U sound like me 🤓

@little osprey u dont have any money at all?

to build one?

[little osprey]

He said that he have 5$

[atomic tiger]

oof

ok

[pulsar crag]

Hello sir, I think Im going with the build you sent but I was going to ask you if I shouldnt worry about any of these notes

[still bay]

unless it says warning then prob not

seems u will be fine

bottom one is always there no matter what

middle one is pretty standard i'd say as long as u dont do 2 m.2's it wont matter

[junior thicket]

Hi, i am planning on building a pc really soon, and i was going to use a gigabyte gpu because i heard from some people that gigabyte is a good brand but recently i heard the opposite. Some peope are saying that their gpus are not that good.

[still bay]

what gpu exactly?

[junior thicket]

I was planning on getting the 3070 eagle oc

[warm kindle]

hey all my friends are telling me to not get an i3 10100 cpu

are they right

[still bay]

@warm kindle send parts list

[warm kindle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k67tW3

[still bay]

ask @stoic island

why intel

[zenith bone]

Update: I disabled CSM in my BIOS which removed the beeping

[warm kindle]

they think i should buy this

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd/6430867.p?skuId=6430867

[little osprey]

Depends
For example on amd you wanna go sapphire.

[little osprey]

nope no money besides 5$

On nvidia side...idk, maybe evga is the best one

[dull ferry]

^

evga great qc and most of their gpus cool well

[little osprey]

Ah

On amd generally red devil and sapphire nitro & pulse are the best cards

[weak field]

not terrible price for parts

definitely skimped on things

psu ram mobo

[buoyant aurora]

@little osprey Sorry for the ping, I like your pfp :D

[dense shale]

I was told I can get help here

[winged cairn]

Whatcha need

[weak field]

mhm

[dense shale]

Can I call?

[little osprey]

@buoyant aurora thanks.

[still bay]

ur friends are stupi dont buy that

[little osprey]

nope no money besides 5$ @atomic tiger

[winged cairn]

Text will be faster @dense shale

[buoyant aurora]

^

[dense shale]

It’s hard to explain

[buoyant aurora]

try your best then

[warm kindle]

what why

[wheat coral]

Then just say it

[dense shale]

But I downloaded Davinci resolve

And I click it

[buoyant aurora]

ok

[dense shale]

It says

[junior thicket]

Cool thanks for all of the input @keli and @dull ferry and @still bay

[wheat coral]

Type faster cmon

[dense shale]

A newer version is already installed

[weak field]

no finger gang

[dense shale]

Please uninstall it

So I check downloads

[buoyant aurora]

thats what you were stressing about?

[still bay]

its a cyber power prebuilt

[dense shale]

Nothing is there not even the thing I’m opening

[wheat coral]

Then uninstall and reinstall or check file integrity

[buoyant aurora]

^

[dense shale]

Bro this took 9 hours

[winged cairn]

Check your task manager

[dense shale]

Omg

[dull ferry]

how does an update stress you out

[wheat coral]

I dont care

[winged cairn]

Find the source file

[dense shale]

None

How am I opening the thing

No idea

[weak field]

[dense shale]

I even searched it

[winged cairn]

Open it to where it gives you the prompt

[wheat coral]

Bbothered

[weak field]

punch the computer

[dense shale]

I have

A lot

[winged cairn]

Select it in task manager

[weak field]

punch it again

[winged cairn]

Open file location

And remove kebab

[dense shale]

What is kebab

[little osprey]

i put windows 32 file in recycle bin now i will erase everything out of the recycle bin

[winged cairn]

Do it

[weak field]

yes

[winged cairn]

And thats just a way of saying delete the file

[dense shale]

Ok

Done

[little osprey]

my pc blue screened

[weak field]

no

[little osprey]

what does that mean

[winged cairn]

Or, try going to the website for a dedicated uninstaller

[weak field]

invert colors

[little osprey]

Ah yes
The darwin approach.

[weak field]

red screened

[dull ferry]

depends on the error code

it threw

[little osprey]

said memory

MATE

[dense shale]

I delete kebab

[little osprey]

Did you really delete system32?

[dull ferry]

HOLY

WHY

[little osprey]

OH MYNGOD

HAHAHA

[dense shale]

?

[little osprey]

HE DELETED WINDOWS 32

[wheat coral]

You cant delete sys32

Dummies

[little osprey]

oh wait you can't?

[wheat coral]

Without several work arounds no

And if this guy is too dumb to find an installer

I doubt he knows them

[dense shale]

Help

[little osprey]

you can you just have to hav ea virus that can delete it

[dense shale]

I delete something

[wheat coral]

All of this over a damn update

[little osprey]

my pc actually bluescreened the other day and said that i ran out of memory

[winged cairn]

Get a Dedicated Uninstaller

[dense shale]

I am so mad

[winged cairn]

Either from the source website

Or through CCleaner

[dense shale]

I’m so done

[wheat coral]

you did this to yourself

[dense shale]

No

False

[wheat coral]

No

True

[dense shale]

Goodbye

[little osprey]

Bruh
This issue can easily be fixed.

[wheat coral]

Youre making a massive deal out of nothing

[dense shale]

I still have the problem

And I delete kebab

[little osprey]

Kebab?

[severe axle]

yes you did do this to yourself

[winged cairn]

The file

[little osprey]

Ah

[dense shale]

He tricked me

[wanton cliff]

wait

[dense shale]

Deceived me

[wanton cliff]

what happened here

[warm kindle]

lol

[dense shale]

I needed help

[little osprey]

I honestly have no ideia what is happening

[severe axle]

they deleted system32

[wheat coral]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wanton cliff]

how

[severe axle]

from what I saw

[wheat coral]

They cant

Once again

[dull ferry]

same

[dense shale]

Well pc not working

[little osprey]

It was the other guy.

[wanton cliff]

you cant delete system32 without a lot of workarounds

[wheat coral]

Exactly what i said

[dense shale]

It not working

Idk

[wanton cliff]

reinstall windows?

[winged cairn]

Did you try restarting?

[little osprey]

And he said that he put windows 32 on trash bin and all of sudden his computer blue screened

[dense shale]

Am trying

[wanton cliff]

thats not how math works

[deft harbor]

guys so do get a 1660s or ti

[dull ferry]

s

[dense shale]

Listen idk but not working

[deft harbor]

ok

[wanton cliff]

5600XT

[vital warren]

ti is better but 1660s is generally priced better

[winged cairn]

Send a pic of your task manager

[dull ferry]

if you can find ti at same price ti ye

but usually ti is more

[vital warren]

but everything is priced bad right now so i wouldn't hold ur breath

[dense shale]

I will now have to pay someone to fix my computer

Great

[wanton cliff]

no

[deft harbor]

how much should a 5600 xt cost

[wanton cliff]

just reinstall windows lmao

[dense shale]

I’m done this has been nothing but crap

[wheat coral]

Where did you download the game from?

[winged cairn]

If you dont listen to the directions, it'll end badly

[wanton cliff]

A: its your own fault

B: just reinstall windows

[vital warren]

5600xt msrp is 280

[dense shale]

How is it my fault

[vital warren]

can be found cheaper sometimes

[deft harbor]

ok

[dense shale]

Please tell me

[vital warren]

but expensive rn

[wind fjord]

Should i get a Ryzen 5 5600x or Ryzen 7 5800x for my Radeon RX 6800?

[wanton cliff]

cause you are the one that uninstalled windows lmao

[wheat coral]

5600x

[winged cairn]

Whatever you can find

[wind fjord]

Ight

Is there a huge difference between the 2?

[dense shale]

I was tricked

[weak field]

just more cores n threads

[little osprey]

@dense shale eh...go to #windows-ios , explain your issue and people will help you.

[wheat coral]

Where did you download the game from

[dense shale]

Nah I’m done asking for help, ima just ask Bob later

He’s the only one who has helped in any way

[still bay]

no no u were not

[wheat coral]

Where did you download the game from

[still bay]

u definitely were not "tricked"

[little osprey]

I mean...you bringed it on yourself.

[dense shale]

It’s website

[dull ferry]

yes where did you download it

[still roost]

BiggerOof#1716 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wheat coral]

What website dummie

[weak field]

you unistalled windows

[dense shale]

It is Davinci Resolve

[weak field]

YOU

[dense shale]

YOU MADE ME

[wheat coral]

I DIDNT ASK WHAT GAME

[dull ferry]

messed up and forgot to get rid of reply

nice

[wheat coral]

I ASKED FROM WHAT WEBSITE

[dull ferry]

^

[dense shale]

Oh idk

[dull ferry]

bruh

[dense shale]

Black magic something

Who knows

[little osprey]

[wheat coral]

Who knows
@dense shale you clearly

[little osprey]

I found the best fluid for liquid cooled custom loop

[winged cairn]

Congrats. You probably downloaded a Virus

[wanton cliff]

bruh moment when he

[dense shale]

Look up Davinci resolve and the website to download shows up

[dull ferry]

nah he used the blackmagic website i think

[dense shale]

Yes that

[dull ferry]

ok ive used resolve before

all i did was press skip

when the update thing came up

lmao

[dense shale]

It said I need it

[weak field]

[wanton cliff]

I just want to point out real quick that @dense shale is a young'n, if the voice on his youtube channel is anything to go by

[little osprey]

80w-90 motorcycle motor oil is the best for liquid cooling

[weak field]

youngn

[winged cairn]

Ahh

The youths

[dull ferry]

||so thats why they rage so easily||

[still bay]

hahaha his yt channel

[wanton cliff]

1k subscribers with just a few videos tho, thats pretty impressive

[still bay]

84 subs?

[little osprey]

Watch it be just his family and friends

[wanton cliff]

other one, PheroFN

[still bay]

oh PheroGaming is what im looking at

wtf lmao 1.2k subs

bs his first vid got 300k views

[little osprey]

@dull ferry he made a storm.on a cup of water on #general-chat tho

[winged cairn]

Almost as funny as in ye olde days of Club Penguin telling people to press Alt+f4 to access a Secret menu

[stoic island]

wait really?

jk

[dense shale]

They turned my comments off

I hate YouTube

[winged cairn]

O o f

[wheat coral]

Look at the YT linked to his acc

[dense shale]

To “protect me”

[wheat coral]

Not the one in his name

[stoic island]

@dense shale Videos made for kids automatically have comments disabled

so

check those settings

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CzF2rr

So

My general outline

[stoic island]

no

ek-aio

[wanton cliff]

COPPA. isn't really YT's fault

[little osprey]

Except 5th gen ryzen instead of ryzen 9

[stoic island]

uh

that is 5th gen ryzen..?

5950x is 5th gen

[little osprey]

No

I meant

[still roost]

Scrips#1192 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Hol up

[stoic island]

bad word

[wanton cliff]

Bitwit just did a video on the cooler, not that great

[little osprey]

I meant I want to get the 5950x

[wanton cliff]

literally yesterday, I think

[stoic island]

I said get EK-AIO smh

[deep skiff]

smh you @stoic island

[still bay]

rthats not how the gens and stuff work

[stoic island]

smh nachos

[dense shale]

I am over the age tho

[stoic island]

don't make me say GMMK is good

[dense shale]

It makes me mad

[stoic island]

@dense shale it doesn't matter about you

[little osprey]

@still bay my brain went dumb

[stoic island]

it matters about the audience

[still bay]

mr1111.... the gmmk is fine

[deep skiff]

or else what

[still bay]

over rpriced yes

[dense shale]

The audience was not English and grown ups

From India

[still bay]

its not good ocmpared to nk65 or others but its fine

[stoic island]

@deep skiff 3 pin mount is superior to 5 pin mount

[dense shale]

Not joking

[still bay]

mr1111 /???????

no it is not

[deep skiff]

@stoic island okay and now ur techie role is revoked for the future

[wanton cliff]

im honestly surprised you can fit so much into a $1500 budget nowadays

[stoic island]

lol

[still bay]

mr1111 dont recommend keyboard srtuff if u dont know what ur talking about

[stoic island]

you made me say it :P

@still bay it's a joke btw

[still bay]

yeah but ppl are gonna beleive u

[stoic island]

lmao

[still bay]

and listen to what u say

[little osprey]

@wanton cliff its more than 1500 sadly

[stoic island]

who is going to know what 3 pin and 5 pin mounts are

and not know which is good

[little osprey]

Doesn't take account for some of the prices

[still bay]

there is no better option

[little osprey]

Like the gpu, power supply

[still bay]

i mean 5 pin in theory is better

[little osprey]

Big stuff :(

[wanton cliff]

ah, didnt see the lack of prices for 3080 and 5950

[stoic island]

@still bay any guy who researches enough to know about 3 pin and 5 pin mounts know 5 pin is better

more switches compatibility at the least

[still bay]

its not that simple

what a re u talking about

3 pin is more compatible...

[stoic island]

5 pin gives more options afaik

[still bay]

what

[wanton cliff]

Mr1111, I think you should stop before your techie role is revoked

[stoic island]

lol nah

[winged cairn]

I still wanna know why people hate on full-size+ keyboards

[stoic island]

I never should've gotten it

[still bay]

mr1111 u do not know what ur talking about like at all

[wanton cliff]

Same

[stoic island]

I know a bit

[still bay]

5 pin just means it has 2 legs

[deep skiff]

you can turn a 5 pin into a 3 pin you cant turn a 3 pin into a 5 pin and you cant really use half plates or plateless with 3 pin

[still bay]

no u clearly do not

[stoic island]

and idc if I'm being dumb

[winged cairn]

I love my 10key

[stoic island]

Yes

[winged cairn]

And my Macro buttons

[still bay]

u just said the gmmk is bad

[little osprey]

@wanton cliff any better thoughts on my list tho? Idk if these case is any good

[stoic island]

You can have more compatibility with 5 pin mount, afaik you can just not use the 2 other pins

[wanton cliff]

even Media buttons with Razer Keyboards

[still bay]

its overpriced maybe compared to others

[stoic island]

hm?

when?

also

[still bay]

3 pin works with 5 pin boards lmaoooo

[stoic island]

3 pin mount

[wanton cliff]

Get a different CPU cooler. Yours sucks. Make sure it is an AIO

[still bay]

"Mr1111 [Read Your Manuals]Today at 1:25 PM
don't make me say GMMK is good"

[stoic island]

THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT LMAO

[still bay]

U CNA CLIP 5 PIN

[stoic island]

@still bay GMMK is only meh, overpriced

[still bay]

IT LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER

i literally said that 10 times

[stoic island]

@still bay stability

[still bay]

it really foesnt change it alot

and depends how ur switches are mounted too

[stoic island]

5 pin mount is better for stability

[still bay]

most switches are 5 pin i believe

[deep skiff]

nerds go to the right channel #peripherals-and-displays

[still bay]

no

[stoic island]

I'm talking about keyboard 5 pin mount

[still bay]

only issue with stability would be the stem

[stoic island]

not talking about 5 pin switches

[still bay]

that isnt affected by the legs

okay i think ur trolling

[stoic island]

afaik the legs do affect stem stability

[still bay]

no not at all

[wanton cliff]

Question: any idea how to get 40gb in photos off of a 10 year old E-Machine without literally breaking the CPU

[deep skiff]

@still bay 3 pins have worse rotational stability

[still bay]

thats not stem stability

[stoic island]

overall stability

[still bay]

stem stability is affected by housing, spring, and stem itself

[stoic island]

unless there's a single way the stem is supposed to be moved?

[wanton cliff]

noone?

[deep skiff]

legs are on the housing ez

[still bay]

mr1111 what are u even saying rn

[little osprey]

@wanton cliff ight, I chose the ROG ryugin, what mobo would pair well?

[still bay]

ok u guys are trolling

the top housing not bottom

[deep skiff]

u didnt say that tho :v

[still bay]

u guys are killing me

[stoic island]

yes I am

[deep skiff]

good

[wanton cliff]

No, Im saying get an NZXT AIO or something, ROG is way overpriced

you are throwing away money

[exotic saddle]

Can someone improve my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7VdKht

[still bay]

@stoic island what do u know about keebs