#building-and-recc-chat

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rapid orbit
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yeah I was about to say im surprised you got one

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looks good though

slow nimbus
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yeh

rapid orbit
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I was looking at going for the 9900k

slow nimbus
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thanks

rapid orbit
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what do you think?

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it's on sale now that's why

slow nimbus
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i got the i7 with the mobo in a combo from new egg

rapid orbit
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ah

slow nimbus
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saved 70$

rapid orbit
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very nice

slow nimbus
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yeah and it was the KA model too

rapid orbit
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oh cool

foggy hazel
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@sonic pasture please grab a mp34 ssd instead

slow nimbus
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with the phillips monitor i got lucky

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i woke up pretty early and was the first thing i picked up

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couple hours later it was sold out

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same with the master cooler td500 mesh

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grabbed it for 78$ on amazon

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couple hours later it was sold out

rapid orbit
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good thing you were up early then

slow nimbus
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yup, hope i have the same luck with the 3070

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I hate scalpers

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literally the worst

rapid orbit
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yeah they are the worst

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I think I may have to end up getting a 20 series just because of no 30 series stock

hollow grail
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scalpers are awful lol

rapid orbit
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oops yeah lol

slow nimbus
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You can always use

rapid orbit
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oh that's useful thanks

slow nimbus
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helped me with the smash version switch

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got my hands on one from amazon

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really rare, most of them went to scalpers

jade dock
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oop

sinful hornet
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1050ti garbo now

jade dock
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ikr

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what a bad price

odd basalt
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hi i need some help so, i bought a new motherboard yesterday it's coming on monday do i have to reinstall windows or? would it be fine?

jade dock
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even ebay sell them cheaper

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are u on the pc rn

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if so no

odd basalt
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yeah it comes on monday

jade dock
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do u have windows on ur hdd/ssd

rapid orbit
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yeah if you have a drive with windows you should be able to just put it in and be fine

odd basalt
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ssd

jade dock
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ok so do u have windows in ur ssd

odd basalt
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yeah

jade dock
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it should worl

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work

odd basalt
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so i don't need to install a fresh windows copy?

jade dock
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no

odd basalt
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omgg thx : )

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that's gonna be soo much easier

jade dock
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but keep windows on a drive just in case it dont work

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have fun playing!

odd basalt
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yeah i got an usb stick with windows on it if something wrong happenes

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thc

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thx*

jade dock
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ok

light wagon
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how much is the i7 7700k worth if im selling my pc

jade dock
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260

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is this a good build

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also does the i3 10100 come unlocked

daring jetty
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I dont know if my aio is working or not

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Where would i plug it into on my motherboard?

jade dock
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idk

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go on a youtube vid

little leaf
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@foggy hazel not exactly the routers wasnt new

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It was from a family member and they lost the box

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I looked up the manuel and it was about 40 pages

foggy hazel
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hmm

tame siren
still roostBOT
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dulvn#1815 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

whole harbor
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Ill fix it

tame siren
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thx

whole harbor
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Get it checked by a techie

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Also get windows $5 off ebay

tame siren
livid fiber
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so i need help

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i bought an m.2 ssd and i made that my boot drive

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but my HDD that i use for gaming got split

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i can't create a new volume what so ever

potent prairie
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Bleep

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I think the gpu is dead

uneven mist
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guys

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whats the difference

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i need to know which one to get lol

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reee im ordering parts rn an i needa know

fossil halo
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what

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get the cheaper one

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theyre both so good

uneven mist
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lol

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but they have different ports?

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does htrat make a diff

fossil halo
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wait

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are you talking about the psus?

uneven mist
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yes

fossil halo
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psus dont have ports

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they come with all the cables u need

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j get the cheaper one

uneven mist
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u sure?

fossil halo
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yea

uneven mist
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alright cool sounds good lol

fossil halo
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mhm

grim raptor
little leaf
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Spend less on the cpu unless your doing video editing

grim raptor
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yes

little leaf
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If you are

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You might need more ram

grim raptor
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32?

little leaf
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Thats generally the target when doing video editing

grim raptor
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what about gpu?

little leaf
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I assume you are mainly video editing right

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Ik

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Im just saying

uneven mist
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wait @fossil halo i might have to go with the more expensivee one bec the cheaper one wont arrive till next year

little leaf
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Also if you can wait there are better options

grim raptor
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i play games

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too

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i will be fine with 2070 ?

little leaf
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No

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Wait

grim raptor
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what why

little leaf
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Ryzen 5000 and rtx3000/rx 6000 is out

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Supply in limited

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But if you can wait they will be more widely in stock

grim raptor
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when?

little leaf
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They are much better and you can get more for the price

grim raptor
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every 3070 is out of stock or over 600

little leaf
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Probably around early next year

grim raptor
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ohh

little leaf
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But no one can be sure

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As we are not nivida

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There are also many bots that track if they are in stock and can help you find when they go instock

grim raptor
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thats nice

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so i propably have to wait till next year

stark scroll
little leaf
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No point in getting a 1660

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1660super is better

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Dont get a 3100 at 180

little osprey
stark scroll
little osprey
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Decent.

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OH WAIT

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@stark scroll don't get armor

stark scroll
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why?

little osprey
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It doesn't have VRM cooling and looking it from outside it seems to be a MK1 armor

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and MK1 is not great though.

little osprey
whole harbor
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@arctic jungle

stark scroll
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so i should go for the i5 instead of i7 and get a better gpu?

little osprey
fossil halo
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wow imine intel

little osprey
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You can also go for 10th gen aswell, it does have HT

stark scroll
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can you explain what OC a k chip?

little osprey
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a K chip is mean't for overclocking.

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Aka 9700k

stark scroll
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oh

little osprey
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Intel's cpu skews are kind of confusing

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Also i don't see a cooler on your list, you known that K series don't come with a cooler, right?

stark scroll
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yeah i know i will add coolers later

little osprey
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Alright.

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@stark scroll ill go on pcpartpicker and see if I can make anything better for cheaper

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Damn, rx 570 and 580 is hella overpriced.

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Eh...

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5600 xt is eh.

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I wouldn't go for it.

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Drivers are still a issue.

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Well its competition is the rtx 2060 and it destroys that

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Though rtx 2060 have more headroom for OC aswell

little osprey
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Bad die

little osprey
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Crucial ballistic 3600mz cl 16 is better

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Jesus christ, 2060 is very overpriced rn

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Everything is overpriced

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I'd just wait until prices normalize to buy pc parts

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Yeah

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Ya why are they so expensive

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And rtx 3070 & 3080 stock to arrive, as rtx 20xx will drop in price.

stark scroll
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ok i got it thanks @little osprey and @little osprey

little osprey
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There are some good black Friday tech deals though

little osprey
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Ya if so i might 2060 or if 306 drops i might get it

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If you need more options to go for

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You can get a 500gb 970 evo for 60 bucks rn

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You wil need a heat spreader

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Yeah those samsung nvme controllers get toasty

weak field
stark scroll
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AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X or intel i7 9700k which one is better?

little osprey
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space heater

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The 9700k is slightly better in games

fallen harbor
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I5 10400f 1650 4gb thoughts?

little osprey
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10th gen

formal vector
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What mother board should I use if I want to have a i7 10700k 16 gig and a 3070

little osprey
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A z490 for sure

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And a higher end one

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4gb of vram is stretching it

formal vector
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Also if someone can help me w a build I would greatly appreciate help me pick parts

little osprey
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Yes

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I'd go with a 9400f and a 1660 super

little osprey
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@formal vector what’s your budget

formal vector
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I think 1500

little osprey
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Usd

formal vector
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Yeah

little osprey
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Ok do you want to do it in dms

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1500 you can easily fit a 3070 in there

formal vector
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Yeahhh

little osprey
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Ok

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Ill help kk

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10400f+3070 can easily fit in a 1500 budget
Or 3600/5600x

still roostBOT
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imagine getting banned#3086 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

stark scroll
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can anyone explain what this means

little osprey
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It doesn’t matter

stark scroll
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thank you

little osprey
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It means

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If you have a nvme or anything that goes in m.2 one Sata port won’t work

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Sata is hard drive and ssd

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Again don't buy rn unless you absolutely have to

stark scroll
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ok thank you

little osprey
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@little osprey

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@stoic island

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Let me take a look on that psu

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Other than that it is pretty okay.

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The psu seems decent.

vital warren
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seems fine but switch to a 2tb hdd

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for like 10 more

little osprey
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Also yeah, switch to WD blue tho

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Ok

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Why

vital warren
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wd blue?

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if you're referencing sn550 do not switch

wraith quiver
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@little osprey what if my pc does a brrrr

vital warren
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sn750 is fine

little osprey
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Sn750 is better then sn550

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No i mean

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The HDD

wraith quiver
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Like

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What if it does

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And then stops

little osprey
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Then idk

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Did it happen

little osprey
wraith quiver
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nyeo

coral wasp
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newbie here... how do you guys like ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO

little osprey
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🤷

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Grab 2tb wd blue

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It is like 10$ more

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They dont have any

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Oh wait nvm, it is a 5400rpm
My bad

vital warren
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just get a $55 7200rpm barracuda

little osprey
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B

little osprey
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Ok.

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Also ye that works

formal cape
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how much do you need to worry about part compatibility? like if it all fits in the motherboard is it typically fine?

little osprey
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Unless its red

vital warren
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it's fine pcpp tends to get it wrong sometimes

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not a perfect site but it's still good

little osprey
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Ye

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Yes.

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Ok

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Anything that could be better

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Maybe this ram instead?

stoic island
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@little osprey one thing tho, what's with white ram with black mobo in a white case?

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@little osprey why

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why go down in freq

little osprey
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Oh 3200 lol

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I though it was 3600

stoic island
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@little osprey make sure to get lancool ii mesh

little osprey
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Ok

stoic island
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not the regular lancool ii

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regular is just a meh case

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lancool ii mesh is great

proud acorn
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Is it appropriate to ask a tech question about my PC in here, or is there another channel?

stoic island
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Sure, this works.

little osprey
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You are fine with that build.

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=[]=‘

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Oops

proud acorn
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I got a 5800x and an ASUS TUF x570 Plus. When attempting to post, i've been seeing the DRAM light on, meaning there is an issue with the ram. I have tried every slot, and both configurations for dual channel according to the manual, no success. I have also used other ram, both of which are on the MOBO's compatibility list from ASUS.com. I was just wondering if this is an RMA issue, or if it could be related to my x570 mobo not having the bios update to support the new Ryzen CPUs.

stoic island
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I would place my bet on bios update at the moment, it's fairly likely that's an issue.

proud acorn
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Trying to decide if I RMA it, or spend time finding another AMD processor. Unfortunately I don't have one, haha

daring jetty
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I have an issue with my aio. I don’t know if I plugged it in wrong or it dosent work. Where do you guys usually plug an aio in?

little osprey
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I believe there is a program from amd that you can request a cpu to update your bios

proud acorn
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@little osprey There is. I have heard some horror stories tho. I am mostly worried that if it really is the DIMMs then I waste my available refund time, haha.

barren reef
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@proud acorn Sounds like an RMA assuming you've tried beta bios too. I have the same issue with my STRIX B550f every other boot, will be replacing my RAM

daring jetty
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I don’t know if the pump is running or not

little osprey
daring jetty
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Where would you usually plug an aio in?

blazing aurora
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is there only one version of the gtx 1070 sc ?

stoic island
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@barren reef I don't think it's an option for them to be able to update it

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@daring jetty CPU_Fan for the fans, and there's usually a dedicated pump header for the pump

daring jetty
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Oh

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Thank you

stoic island
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@blazing aurora you know that "sc" is the name of a type of model of EVGA GPUs right

proud acorn
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Thanks for the help everyone. The whole BIOS and CPU thing just threw me through a loop. It's an extra step making things weird, haha

blazing aurora
stoic island
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I mean

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1070 only has 8gb afaik

blazing aurora
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ohh okay

stoic island
blazing aurora
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i found one that was $100, is that a good deal

little osprey
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1070 for 100$? Absolutely.

blazing aurora
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oh nice

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thanks @little osprey

stoic island
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As long as you can guarantee quality (not broken)

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It's pretty good

little osprey
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Usually rx 570 and 580 sits on 100$ price tag
Used that is.

blazing aurora
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yeah

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i've been trying to get my hands on a 580 but all the sellers i've contacted don't respond

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and they're well priced too, i've found some in original packaging for ~85$

little osprey
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Thats nice tho
Also check with the seller if that 1070 isn't broken or something

stoic island
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mhm some listings are broken gpu for parts

blazing aurora
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according to the seller it's in great quality

stoic island
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just make sure it's in good condition, ask for proof if possible

blazing aurora
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gotcha

pseudo forge
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If I wanna get extra ram does the ram I buy have to be the exact same as the ram that’s already in my pc?

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I have black Corsair RGB ram 2x18 could I get a pair of white or would that not work?

severe axle
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I wouldn't try it

stoic island
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Just make sure it's the same frequency and timing and size when buying another pair

little osprey
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Hello how is this intel build

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I would switch for noctua tho

pseudo forge
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I just wanna get the exact same ram but in white @stoic island

little osprey
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They seems to have better coolers

stoic island
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I mean

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U12s is a horrible place

little osprey
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Is it good

stoic island
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Noctua isn't a great choice for mid end coolers

little osprey
stoic island
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anyways

pseudo forge
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Anyone used a lian li Galahad aio?

little osprey
pseudo forge
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@stoic island appreciate all the pc help btw you and a few others have made the switch from console to pc a lot easier

stoic island
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:)

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@little osprey it's just pricing

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NH-U12s is great, but not for 60$

little osprey
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Ah alright.

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Is this build good

stoic island
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@little osprey ick corsair vengeance rgb

little osprey
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Idk what else

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I don’t like intel builds

stoic island
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anything else

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just

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G.skill Aegis/Flare X/ripjaw/trident z neo/rgb/royal/

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Cruciall ballistix/rgb

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just

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not vengeance rgb

little osprey
stoic island
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wdym?

whole harbor
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How do motherboard bluetooth and wifi work

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do u have to install it?

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or sum

little osprey
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2666mhz ram or h410 on i3/i5

stoic island
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@little osprey it's not "allow for" grabbing slower ram and entry level mobo, it's forcing you to get slower ram and entry level mobo lel

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like h410+say 10100+2666mhz ram is just sad

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might as well get B550 hdv+3100+3200c16 ram

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about the same price

little osprey
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Is this good

stoic island
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:P

little osprey
stoic island
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I mean

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entry level mobo forces you to get slower ram for a budget build

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:P

little osprey
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It’s for someone he is building a pc he wanted a amd or a intel to see what he wanted

wheat coral
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i would say grabbing 2666 for an intel build isnt worth either way

stoic island
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@little osprey 10600k is a lot cheaper than kf so might as well

little osprey
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Ok

stoic island
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Yes

wheat coral
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because you can get a kit of 3200 or 3600 for the same price and tighten timings

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and would easily be put in new builds

stoic island
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tuned 2666c15/c13 still doesn't perform as well as 3200c16

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and tbh

little osprey
stoic island
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how many of the people that come around looking for budget builds are willing to tune ram

wheat coral
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if you have a budget build i'd expect you to tune everything

stoic island
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@little osprey Any reason for a freezer 34?

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Dunno man, most of the people that come for a budget build are the people that want a prebuilt, at least that I've seen

little osprey
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Looks good and works good

tame siren
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Hey, I made a pc list earlier, but nobody was really in this chat at the time. I did get a small correction, but want to see if there is any issues with it still since they said they really didn't know.

stoic island
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I mean...

tame siren
stoic island
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Same price as a Fuma 2

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which will cool a lot better

little osprey
wheat coral
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you havent seen real budget until youve been in the LSG discord (dont join it rn mods are being super mega dumb) and everyone there wants to tweak as much as they can

stoic island
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@tame siren Let's see, what's with the aio choice, mobo choice, and case choice?

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@wheat coral well I lurk here, and I base my suggestions from here for here.

wheat coral
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me and keli were both regulars in the LSG discord but left due crappy mod team

wheat coral
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lolol

stoic island
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ofc a lot of people do a ton of tuning to get perf in lower budgets

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but those people aren't the same people coming here looking for a build

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I personally would definitely tune the ram if I'm forced onto an Intel non-Z mobo

tame siren
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All of those were changed from what I originally had, I was unsure if the case would be big enough. I did some extra researching, and it would seem the mobo I have might need a BIOS update for the newer CPU.

stoic island
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Here's the thing

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300$ motherboard for a 300$ chip doesn't really make much sense to me

queen totem
stoic island
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and also, I hate the O11 for not being big enough to allow for good air coolers

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It looks big for no good reason, even the O11 mini has better clearance

polar anvil
stoic island
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like O11 mini has 170mm iirc, O11 has 155mm cpu cooler clearance

tame siren
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Hmm, that is a pretty good point. I kept having an issue with mobo finding, and don't really have an idea of what to correct with since I'm pretty new to PC building shenanigans.

little osprey
polar anvil
stoic island
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Alright, lemme just change it to what I'd personally do

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damn it freezer ii is all oos

polar anvil
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@stoic island

stoic island
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@tame siren Ram change is personal preference, CPU cooler kind of placeholder, case is personal preference beyond a list of good cases, PSU wise, amp is basically a RMx, and I'd get 750w for single rail.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHpzZZ

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board is somewhat placeholder, but it's a good board, and has bios flashback if needed to update bios

little osprey
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Umm

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I needed a intel

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List

stoic island
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wat

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that list isn't for you

little osprey
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Oh oops

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Sorry

stoic island
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the @ was at the start of the message >:(

little osprey
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Oh lol didn’t see that

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And

stoic island
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lel

polar anvil
stoic island
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@polar anvil TN panel not so nice

little osprey
stoic island
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looks good to me

little osprey
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Ok

tame siren
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So it should work if I got those parts?

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Of course with a BIOS update since it seems that might be required with the new CPU.

polar anvil
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Can you please explain what’s wrong with it

stoic island
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yea Bios update is basically gonna be required for now, and that board (B550 aorus elite ax) will alow you to update bios without a CPU installed, and update bios via USB stick

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@polar anvil TN Panel tend to have bad colors

polar anvil
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Okay thx

tame siren
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Should I be safe with the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB RAM? DDR4.

stoic island
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eek I hate Corsair Vegeance RGB ram's design

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make sure to get 3600mhz cl16 either way, but try this if you want 32gb of sticks with rgb
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548870-REG/crucial_bl2k16g36c16u4bl_ballistix_rgb_32gb_16x2_3600.html

tame siren
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K.

fiery bear
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I have a 1050 TI and a processor from 2012 and 8GB DDR3. I'm upgrading the cpu, mobo, and ram for christmas so will my 1050 TI still be viable to run things like COD and RDR2 at decent frames? The CPU and ram is my bottleneck rn and I can't run COD or really anything from 2018 forward other than like Among us

little osprey
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What cpu is that

fiery bear
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AMD FX 4300 quad core

stoic island
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I mean, 1050ti itself will be a bottleneck with a modern CPU on there.

little osprey
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Oh

stoic island
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rdr2 is quite a bit to ask for on a 1050ti

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at 1080p?

fiery bear
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Only 720 atm

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im on a 720p tv but would like to upgrade to 1080

little osprey
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U could sell it and get 1650 super or 1660 super

fiery bear
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I don't need 4k or anything

stoic island
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well

fiery bear
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I was thinking about a 1660 super I found one for like $245

stoic island
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What's going to be the total budget for an upgrading including a GPU?

fiery bear
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I'm asking for the CPU mobo and ram for christmas at around a 400 budget but was thinking of waiting on the gpu until my bday in april

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on PCPartaPicker I priced an AMD R5 3600, 36GB DDR4, and an ASUS mobo for a little over 400

stoic island
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What PSU do you have right now?

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I'm gonna guess it's not very good (meaning you might want to upgrade)

fiery bear
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A 400W 80+ Bronze

stoic island
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What model?

fiery bear
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Corsair

stoic island
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Brand doesn't tell me much :(

cursive wharf
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brand =/= model name

idle hawk
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i kinda wish pcpartpicker was more consistent with pricing even if the parts are not available

fiery bear
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idk I can't get to it rn

stoic island
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Hello hei

cursive wharf
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hi

fiery bear
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me too I wish you could specify if you want to use Amazon or newegg or best buy or whatever else

idle hawk
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well thats my build

stoic island
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you can specify @fiery bear :D

idle hawk
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and most of the parts arent available lol

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at least key parts

cursive wharf
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You can do pretty much just that

fiery bear
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oh lmao I had no idea

idle hawk
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thats not what i meant

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i meant their pricing

stoic island
#

Yes

idle hawk
#

i understand they have sorting lol

#

hm

cursive wharf
#

That was in response to Needle, not you Joker. I do agree tho, I also dislike no pricing on OOS things

idle hawk
#

lol sorry bout that

stoic island
#

You can yell at it to give you a price

#

and it will

cursive wharf
#

yeah, specific part tho

idle hawk
#

i dont have access to that newegg no more lolol

#

im not sure of the price of the mobo

stoic island
idle hawk
#

fixed it but its still stupid

stoic island
#

since you said the CPU was from 2012, I'm just gonna guess the PC was built around that time, and that's where/why the SSD and PSU suggestions are coming

idle hawk
#

i remeber almost getting staked and burned cause i was recommending a 2070 and it was showing like 700$ lolol

fiery bear
#

I have an NVME SSD to use for a boot drive already but other than that looks good

stoic island
#

fair

idle hawk
#

which brand of ssd nvme

fiery bear
#

WD

idle hawk
#

thats good

little osprey
#

Wd blue?

fiery bear
#

yeah 256G

little osprey
#

Nice.

idle hawk
#

wd nvmes are pretty good

tame siren
stoic island
#

fair

idle hawk
#

mr.1111 im surprsied you dont get paid lmaoo

stoic island
#

CPU Cooler could be changed if you want to, but I really like the NH-U12a

idle hawk
#

cause this really be feeling like a full time job

tame siren
#

I should be fine using that though?

fiery bear
#

If this was a full time job i'm dropping out of college rn lmao

stoic island
#

Yea ofc

idle hawk
#

same

stoic island
#

Some people prefer AIOs and really dislike me recommending Noctua coolers because aesthetics, so just mentioning that.

little osprey
#

If I got paid minimum wage or more I’d drop outta middle school

#

I mean elementary school

tame siren
#

Bet. Building one for Christmas to go with a VR headset, so when I'm playing my VR, I wouldn't even see the computer box.

fiery bear
#

middle school 🤦‍♂️ 🤣

stoic island
#

:P

#

If I get paid... I would get paid

idle hawk
#

fair enough

little osprey
#

I’m gr 8

fiery bear
#

I have an OG oculus but i'm thinking of selling to get the quest 2 so I can use it wired or wireless

#

when I have the pc to handle vr ofc

tame siren
#

Joking aside, I'm changing from a 1070 and an AMD R5 2600 since I've been meaning to get something nice and strong for playing games. Yeah, I'm getting Quest 2 also.

idle hawk
#

i had a 1070 ti a while ago and theyre strong cards in their own right

fiery bear
#

my friend is selling and AMD R5 1600x for 200 and i thought about buying it from him because his pc is only about 3 months old

tame siren
#

And maybe I have a small addiction for Rust on max settings with high FPS, but I'm not just going to admit that.

fiery bear
#

but my current mobo doesn't support AM4 chipset which is what ryzen is

idle hawk
#

love the irony with that statement and your name @tame siren

little osprey
stoic island
#

1600x is uh

#

interesting

fiery bear
#

that causes physical pain

tame siren
#

The real challenge of the setup I'm going for is finding it in stock lol.

little osprey
#

The cat is in the back

fiery bear
#

true

little osprey
idle hawk
#

the stock of everything is hard to come by rn

tame siren
#

Have a feeling I'm going to be hard wrestling to get my hands on a 3080 and the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X

idle hawk
#

ive been scared to post my build on fb cause itll make me a wanted man lolol

fiery bear
#

Good luck with that lmao

idle hawk
#

youre not fighting me

tame siren
#

Thanks, I'll most certainly need that luck.

idle hawk
#

youll have to pry it off my cold dead hands

tame siren
#

Oh no, I couldn't bother an inferior 9900k.

#

Kidding.

idle hawk
#

lolol but my gigabyte aorus master rtx 3080

fiery bear
#

Intel 🤮 🤣

little osprey
#

my friend got the i7 9th gen at microcenter

idle hawk
#

holding steady at 5.0ghz on the dot all cores so i mean.....

fiery bear
#

fair enough

tame siren
#

Going on a manhunt to find the 3080 and AMD Ryzen 5 5600X since AMD master race

idle hawk
#

thats what i was talking about needle lol

fiery bear
#

^^

idle hawk
#

the 3080

little osprey
idle hawk
#

my mobo is 339.99 atm

little osprey
#

That’s expensive

idle hawk
#

and its to handle alot of power

little osprey
#

Oh

idle hawk
#

and needle its no amd or intel master race

tame siren
#

Not going for aesthetic with this PC and it damn well shows. A white case with all black parts.

little osprey
idle hawk
#

this is the pc master race

fiery bear
#

how much for the digital edition lmao

little osprey
#

Stolen phot

#

Photos

tame siren
#

We have two ps5's in here, launching the PC master race gang.

idle hawk
#

lmaoo

fiery bear
#

oh damn lmao

little osprey
#

I’d sell them if I had the,

#

Them

idle hawk
#

Ill start it off strong then

little osprey
#

Why is there anime on ur gpu

fiery bear
#

why the hell not lmao

idle hawk
#

it has a display

#

it has kirito on it now lol

little osprey
#

Wow

fiery bear
#

I saw a gpu with a double display on an LTT vid and and they gave it away for free just pay shipping

tame siren
#

Can't wait to post my ugly but powerful PC in #build-pics. Speaking of unsatisfying PC aesthetics, white case, all black parts, and a white cooler with some brown.

fiery bear
#

it was a 3080

idle hawk
#

ik which card was that

#

im pretty sure that was the power color or something

little osprey
fiery bear
#

don't remember

#

pc

fair condor
#

pcs more practical for me

fiery bear
#

and less expensive

idle hawk
#

more maintenance

#

constantly putting gas in more money insurance

#

need a trailer to haul it

fiery bear
#

pc maintenance I can do but i'm no mechanic

idle hawk
#

need a car to haul it

little osprey
#

My dad has 300 acres of property and 3 of those

idle hawk
#

lmaoo should i continue

fiery bear
#

I can change oil and add brake fluid and change lightbulbs thats about it

little osprey
#

Imagine not have 100gb of 5mbps internet

fiery bear
#

f

idle hawk
#

imagine having 600mbs down and 20 up

little osprey
#

Is that bad

idle hawk
#

not if its unlimited

little osprey
#

Is that what u have

fiery bear
#

thats over half a gig down thats pretty good if you have unlimited

idle hawk
#

yep

little osprey
#

Cool

fiery bear
#

well thanks for the chat lads but i

#

'm hoppping off

stoic island
#

bai

little osprey
#

It takes 5 seconds for a 600 kB pic to send

stoic island
#

good night

fiery bear
#

gn

idle hawk
#

ima dip for now too lol peace

stoic island
#

wrong chat

storm flume
#

ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

#

for this mother board, there is pcie power connector next to the m.2 ssd

#

does that need plugged in from the PSU?

little osprey
torn token
#

I'm also not.... I'm surface lvl knowledge

little osprey
#

second one is better

little osprey
little osprey
slender owl
#

He figured it out @little osprey

little osprey
#

👍

obsidian temple
#

can someone help me find good wireless headphones around 100$

#

???

torn token
#

Wait so the 2nd one is better? I'm just trying to get a good prebuilt starterfor myself

little osprey
#

but also it doesnt specify the brands of multiple things

#

Yeah...

#

Would be cheaper to build the pc by youself though

#

And windows keys are usually cheaper on like...ebay

#

Plus that ddr4 ran might 2666

#

So thats alot of question about that prebuilt.

rancid pasture
summer charm
#

Anyone available for a quick advice on a SSD?

silk estuary
#

@little osprey which best buy 👀

summer charm
foggy hazel
#

@summer charm that is expensive for a 1tb of that performance tier

summer charm
#

I'm trying to buy parts now since I just got off work.

foggy hazel
#

look at something like the mp34 or the sn750

#

both should be cheaper than that

little osprey
#

uh thats 512gb not 1tb

little osprey
foggy hazel
#

@little osprey the link is for joel

#

not Bubba :)

little osprey
#

$112 for a 512 is really overpriced

summer charm
#

I'm going to get the WD SN750 instead, but any suggestions for HDDs?

#

or SSDs?

little osprey
#

could just go with a generic seagate 2tb hdd

summer charm
#

Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive
Is my plan it's a 51.99$

#

Seagate Barracuda 120 SSD 1TB Internal Solid State Drive - 2.5 Inch SATA 6GB/s for Computer Desktop PC Laptop (ZA1000CM1A003)
for $94.99, which will be my primary game drive.

#

"Computer Desktop PC Laptop" tf?

foggy hazel
#

thats the normal one we recommend, so IF you really want/need a HDD. then that will be a decent drive.

tawdry lance
#

Should I use a 660p as a extra game drive?

foggy hazel
#

that 120 ssd is just a bad value too

summer charm
#

.-. This is my first PC, so I'm not sure what is the best for value.

tawdry lance
#

I bought the 660p like 2 years ago for my laptop but I never used it

summer charm
#

I just know Seagate is trustworthy.

little osprey
#

sn750 and seagate 2tb will be enough

summer charm
#

I'm wanting a game drive though. Sn750 will be for Windows, Steam, Discord, Uplay.

foggy hazel
#

brand names dont mean anything.

summer charm
#

and 2tb will be for indie, and not compacting games.

#

and personal use.

#

So would it be best to get two segate 2tb?

little osprey
#

naed got any good ssd's for this man?

foggy hazel
#

do you really think you need that space?

little osprey
#

^

still roostBOT
#
Bubba#1801 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

summer charm
#

.

foggy hazel
#

no swearing

summer charm
#

I'll have RDR2, Ark, GTA5, and big games like that.

foggy hazel
#

and the HDD price has been steady for a LONG time now

summer charm
#

Full games.

#

All DLCs.

foggy hazel
#

so, you can always add another drive later

#

and yes, those are minor data uses

summer charm
#

That's why I'm looking for a drive mainly for games.

little osprey
#

i still think youll be fine with just the 512gb and the 2tb hdd

foggy hazel
#

go with what we have already listed mp34/sn750 AND a 2tb HDD

#

and you will be fine for a good while

summer charm
#

Alright.

#

Thanks.

foggy hazel
#

you are welcome

little osprey
#

👍

summer charm
#

Also can I get judgement of a case, and maybe help with what I need for it?

little osprey
#

trust. it will take a while to fill all that space up

summer charm
#

This is what I'm going to be getting.

#

As of what you have told me.

#

I'm planning on upgrading to Ryzen 5600x and 6800xt once they come out.

#

The 3600x is a place holder for now, and I'll be using my 1060 6gb till then.

little osprey
#

do you really need 32gb ram?

summer charm
#

I will for the Ryzen 5600x and 6800xt for what I've been reading.

foggy hazel
#

you can save a bunch on the mainboard if you want?

little osprey
#

^

summer charm
#

Will it still be able to hold what I need?

foggy hazel
#

that mainboard is many levels of overpriced

#

oh yes

little osprey
#

yeah

summer charm
#

Appeciated.

#

if so.

little osprey
#

I don't think you need a x570
Maybe a b450 or b550 would be enough.

foggy hazel
#

you need the wifi ?

summer charm
#

I have ethernet.

little osprey
#

b550 is preferred

foggy hazel
#

let me ask in a different way.

summer charm
#

@little osprey, For 5600x I'll be needing an newer board.

foggy hazel
#

Do you want wifi on the board for future convinence?

summer charm
#

I guess?

#

Not really sure that I'll need it for.

#

I do ethernet.

little osprey
#

wireless connection

little osprey
#

but ethernet faster ig

summer charm
#

It is aha.

little osprey
#

Ye

#

yeah wifi cards are pretty cheap right?

#

Yep

summer charm
#

@foggy hazel, if it doesn't affect anything I don't mind the extra ability. but I'm going to be running ethernet, so.

foggy hazel
#

noted @summer charm

little osprey
#

Btw, go b550
It should be compatible with newer ryzen

#

And older ones

#

I believe.

summer charm
#

If it won't affect my upgrade, I'll go with whatever.

#

I may need to pop in here and ask how to upgrade an bios, but.

little osprey
#

B550 is cheaper tho

#

most boards should have bios updated but if not we can help

summer charm
#

I'm going to probably eventually be running 1x M.2, 1x SSD, and 2x HDD. (1 HDD will be for Family use, not for my personal use. Rather not try to explain that more.)

summer charm
#

MSI isn't good I thought?

foggy hazel
little osprey
#

That one have vrm cooling

#

And seems decent enough.

foggy hazel
#

board is m-atx and i changed the case to m-atx too

summer charm
#

how good is the m-atx tho.

little osprey
#

i have the msi board but i cant use it cause i got a defective cpu. 🙂 so i need to send it off to amd for a replacement or repair

summer charm
#

like I heard it's best to go atx.

foggy hazel
#

no functional difference

#

its a question of board size

#

that is all

little osprey
#

^

summer charm
#

doesn't it affect cpu aio and stuff?

foggy hazel
#

no. it does not

little osprey
#

Atx in like case or mobo?

foggy hazel
#

2* 16 sticks on the ram instead of the 4*8

#

both in this case @little osprey

summer charm
#

would prefer 4x8 though.

foggy hazel
#

re: ram change: that shaves off another 20usd

summer charm
#

true.

#

But from what I've been reading It'll help boost the memory for 5600x and 6800xt.

#

and latency will shrink, and help with performance.

#

based on data I'm looked at.

#

Although I'm new to this, so.

foggy hazel
#

last change

#

i changed your psu to something that is actually worth owning

#

with a warranty that matches

#

your call on the ram, i would personally go 2*16, for the simple convenience of not having spare sticks when you add more later

little osprey
#

Also i would recommend to go for 3080 tho instead of 6800 xt @summer charm
Because 3080 have RTSS so you can lower the res and upscale with the RT cores.

summer charm
#

3080 is like 100 bucks more.

little osprey
#

Oh oof

foggy hazel
#

either of the GPU's have one big problem, which is availability.

summer charm
#

and doesn't really work well with Ryzen.

little osprey
#

No?

foggy hazel
#

it works just fine with Ryzen

little osprey
#

Thats not how the works lol

foggy hazel
#

whatever you might have heard on that one, is not true

little osprey
#

Both nvidia and amd gpus works well with amd or intel cpus

summer charm
#

I can't really talk, I bought a pc with a FX4300 and 1060 6gb

little osprey
#

Lol

#

Fx4300 is absolute trash tho.

summer charm
#

ye....

little osprey
#

It peforms worse than a i3 2100

summer charm
#

at the time, my cpu I had was like half the performance.

#

so...

#

it was 2x better than what I had.

#

lol.

little osprey
#

Oh ok, my friend had a fx 6300 and it bottlenecked his GPU heavily

#

It was a 1050 ti and he had like 20-30 fps on a game where it should be atleast 60+

#

Also 6800xt is 50$ cheaper than 3080

summer charm
#

wait that the XT.

#

oops

little osprey
#

Ye.

summer charm
#

Amazon protection plans are expensive.

#

damn.

#

are they even worth it.

#

@foggy hazel are protection plans even worth it for amazon's price?

foggy hazel
#

imo, i dont see the point of them. if you buy things that have actual warranty that is

little osprey
#

As long as you aren't a dumb*ss you should be fine

summer charm
#

well yeah.

foggy hazel
#

but keep in mind, amazon is not exactly something we use over here for pc parts :)

little osprey
#

And the warranty covers stuff like doa parts

foggy hazel
#

DOA parts are covered no matter what you do. That is general consumer law, even in the US.

little osprey
#

Warrantys cover everything except user error right?

summer charm
#

The PSU is 100 bucks more on newegg though.

#

129 on amazon, 229 on newegg.

little osprey
summer charm
#

Wait.

#

It's out of stock.

#

nevermind.

little osprey
#

It is a really bad time to buy any part except ssds

manic tapir
little osprey
#

Like some cover X and some warranties don't

foggy hazel
#

@steep rune unless you are one of the people from Geek Seek, its not nice to claim their build as yours

little osprey
#

Ssds are really cheap right now

summer charm
#

@foggy hazel The PSU, and CPU are out of stock on Newegg right now, so I can't really get them on there.

little osprey
#

A 3100 on pcpartpicker is 200 usd and a 10100 is only 100

foggy hazel
#

2sec, lets find something else for you then @summer charm

#

and i would personally have no problem with ordering that psu from amazon.

#

because i know the warranty is good on that model.

summer charm
#

Tempered or No Tempered?

#

I won't have any RGB, so.

foggy hazel
#

i dont personally believe in rgb as an option, so ... yeah :)

little osprey
#

Its personal preference what ever you want as long as the case isn't a hot box

summer charm
#

It's one Naed gave me.

foggy hazel
#

just grab the psu from amazon @summer charm

summer charm
#

won't I need a extra fan on that case too?

#

Naed ^

foggy hazel
#

it comes with 2 fans

#

1 front, 1 back

summer charm
#

Yeah, won't I need another for front?

foggy hazel
#

nah

summer charm
#

Okey.

little osprey
#

You can get a 5 pack of Arctic pwm fans on Amazon for 30 bucks

little osprey
#

Its a nice looking case

summer charm
#

Debating on 4x8 or 2x16.

#

4x8 simple and more processing.

#

2x16 same thing just less flow.

#

basically 30 dollar difference too.

little osprey
#

Which one is more expensive again

little osprey
#

I don't think consumer grade cpus have 4 memory channels

#

I might be wrong.

summer charm
#

The 5600X supports up to 128 GiB of dual-channel DDR4-3200 memory.

#

well.

still roostBOT
#
Bubba#1801 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

summer charm
#

Sorry Mee6.

foggy hazel
#

not the reason he is doing it, its the single/dual rank stuff that GN did a video about @little osprey

little osprey
#

Ah

summer charm
#

So instead of 3600 I need 3200...

#

From what I'm understanding.

#

@foggy hazel, so from what I just read, it's better for me to have 3200 than 3600 for Ryzen?

foggy hazel
#

3600@cl16 is the normal recommendation

summer charm
#

cl16?

#

Cas Latency?

foggy hazel
#

aye

summer charm
#

ty.

little osprey
#

What cpu do you have @summer charm

summer charm
#

I'm going to be getting the R5 5600x and 6800xt/3080 when they become available. for mean time R5 3600, 1060 6GB.

#

1060 6GB I already own.

#

just a matter of CPU upgrade.

little osprey
#

From my understanding ryzen 5000 loves high speed low latency ram and running quad channel over dual channel has quite a big improvement on the 5600x

summer charm
#

Yeah.

#

I saw that.

karmic bobcat
#

Time to get four sticks of ram ThonkHappy

wanton cliff
#

and I just got a 2x16 gig kit too

karmic bobcat
#

Thanks 😌

#

I cropped it myself

wanton cliff
#

H2A has the best cutscenes

karmic bobcat
#

For sure man

wanton cliff
#

and the one liners

#

beautiful

fervent quail
#

stuck at work all day and now the ram i needed is sold out

little osprey
#

Nice.

fervent quail
#

not sure why anyone would need it, but its on sale

little osprey
#

Kinda overpriced tho

#

35$

fervent quail
#

yeah

little osprey
#

Plus idk about US but where i live the bread is already cut.

fervent quail
#

unless you make it yourself it usually is here too

little osprey
#

Ye.

wanton cliff
#

where are yall?

#

where you are talkin about uncut bread?

little osprey
#

Sorta

wanton cliff
#

Sorta sorta isnt a place but ok

drowsy plinth
#

I just built into a DIYPC Vanguard v6 rgb case and the lights and fans will not go on. What did I do wrong? The included instructions were super vague.

#

Everything else works

indigo niche
#

Does anyone know if these are compatible?

#

And what else will I need

little osprey
#

Should have a made PCPP list instead

#

So...why are you grabbing a K chip with a B365?

#

You need atleast like a Z series mobo to OC it(i might be wrong here.)

#

The 1660 ti is fine.

#

Ram & hdd is okay
Ssd you can switch to bx500 if you are on a thight budget or search for a cheap ssd with dram

indigo niche
#

Is there anything else?

little osprey
#

Aside from what i said...it is fine i guess, i have no ideia about cases tho

#

Anyway...yeah, just checked and you need a Z motherboard for OCing
You can either go for Z series mobo or switch to a 9400f

wanton cliff
#

why tf are you all still awake

#

i mean im still awake too but still

sharp tundra
#

So I just learned that 3600mhz cl14 ram is probably the best ram you can get without spending a ton of money.

#

~3.92ns response time

#

My friend recently bought 4000mhz cl18 speed and I did the math, he's getting 4.5ns response time, and I did the math for your typically ram setup that you would see at 3600mhz cl16,
And even that is only at ~4.48ns response time

#

Yeah I know no one cares but I thought it was cool

earnest olive
#

@little osprey no such thing as quad channel on AM4, it's dual rank dual channel, and for that matter 2x16 is better than 4x8 on the vast majority of boards

sharp tundra
#

@earnest olive but there are four dimm slots on most Mobos, 2 for each channel. Right?

earnest olive
#

yes

sharp tundra
#

A1,A2,B1,B2

earnest olive
#

4 slots does not mean 4 channels

sharp tundra
#

Yes, so running 4 dimm sticks would be no different from running 2

earnest olive
#

false

sharp tundra
#

Care to elaborate?

jagged ember
#

splits the channel between two ram sticks or something

#

not an expert, but that's the extent of my understanding lol

earnest olive
#

two considerations

#

most 8GB sticks are single rank and most 16GB sticks are dual rank

#

not 100% but maybe 99%

sharp tundra
#

What is the rank?

earnest olive
#

dual rank interleaving increases total throughput despite usually having to run at lower clock speed or looser timings

#

the other consideration is board memory topology

#

the traces on the pcb are laid out in one of two ways

#
  1. daisy chain, where you have the two primary memory channel slots, then the traces branch out to the other slot
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  1. t-topology, where all 4 slots have equal trace length
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daisy chain results in lower latency for the first 2 sticks, but higher latency for the second 2 sticks

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while t-topology is slightly higher latency for all 4 sticks

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most boards are daisy chain but you can check your specific board using the AM4 motherboard list

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so 2x16 gives you the benefits of rank interleaving without the increased latency penalty of the daisy chain

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as opposed to 4x8 which gives you the benefits of rank interleaving but also the penalty of daisy chain

jagged ember
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but i guess to a common user, this shouldn't matter right?

sharp tundra
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Not at all

jagged ember
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just get whatever's cheaper lol

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still, good to know

earnest olive
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well

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depends on common user

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most users only going 16gb anyways

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so it's whatever

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I only have 16gb myself so I don't benefit from knowing this

sharp tundra
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Yeah, so you could just be cool and run 2 dummy sticks for asthetics

jagged ember
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tru me too

earnest olive
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I've already overspent on aesthetics

jagged ember
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I havent

sharp tundra
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I run 16gb too, so I don't benefit from know it, but in a case where someone does need more than 16gb of ram it helps to know because if they still need good RAM response times, you know you know that there is a slight penalty for using all for dimm slots, and having let's say that you want 3600cl14 ram, for that 3.98ns response time, then you know that you ain't gonna find more than 2x8gb of it

earnest olive
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2x16 3600c14 is definitely possible

sharp tundra
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Really now?

earnest olive
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maybe not at xmp but manual

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someone managed to push ddr4 beyond 7000mhz a few days ago

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you really think 3600c14 dual rank is out of reach?

sharp tundra
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Well, no, but not for what I would get

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G skill neo

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But asthetics don't matter for some, but me it does

earnest olive
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I mean

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the amount I've spent on aesthetics is worth 3 times as much as the temporary gpu I'm stuck on

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gtx 1060..

sharp tundra
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There is no problem with that lol

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I have/had a rx5600xt that I didn't even get to use. I am potentially trading it for a gtx 1660super and a xbox one x

earnest olive
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either way it's certainly possible

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there was 3200c9 ddr3

jagged ember
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doesn't corsair make 5000mhz ram now

sharp tundra
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2.79ns, thats pretty good

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Actually like really good