#building-and-recc-chat
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yeh
I was looking at going for the 9900k
thanks
i got the i7 with the mobo in a combo from new egg
ah
saved 70$
very nice
yeah and it was the KA model too
oh cool
@sonic pasture please grab a mp34 ssd instead
with the phillips monitor i got lucky
i woke up pretty early and was the first thing i picked up
couple hours later it was sold out
same with the master cooler td500 mesh
grabbed it for 78$ on amazon
couple hours later it was sold out
good thing you were up early then
yeah they are the worst
I think I may have to end up getting a 20 series just because of no 30 series stock
scalpers are awful lol
u mean 20?
oops yeah lol
You can always use
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oh that's useful thanks
helped me with the smash version switch
got my hands on one from amazon
really rare, most of them went to scalpers
1050ti garbo now
hi i need some help so, i bought a new motherboard yesterday it's coming on monday do i have to reinstall windows or? would it be fine?
yeah it comes on monday
do u have windows on ur hdd/ssd
yeah if you have a drive with windows you should be able to just put it in and be fine
ssd
ok so do u have windows in ur ssd
yeah
so i don't need to install a fresh windows copy?
no
ok
how much is the i7 7700k worth if im selling my pc
I dont know if my aio is working or not
Where would i plug it into on my motherboard?
@foggy hazel not exactly the routers wasnt new
It was from a family member and they lost the box
I looked up the manuel and it was about 40 pages
hmm
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QnJtW3 is this build good? can’t really find incompatibilities but im not good at spotting them
Reason: Bad word usage
Ill fix it
thx
so i need help
i bought an m.2 ssd and i made that my boot drive
but my HDD that i use for gaming got split
i can't create a new volume what so ever
guys
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whats the difference
i need to know which one to get lol
reee im ordering parts rn an i needa know
yes
u sure?
yea
alright cool sounds good lol
mhm
can you please help me with my gpu???https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6gXYW3 500 pounds bugdet
Spend less on the cpu unless your doing video editing
yes
32?
Thats generally the target when doing video editing
what about gpu?
wait @fossil halo i might have to go with the more expensivee one bec the cheaper one wont arrive till next year
Also if you can wait there are better options
what why
Ryzen 5000 and rtx3000/rx 6000 is out
Supply in limited
But if you can wait they will be more widely in stock
when?
They are much better and you can get more for the price
every 3070 is out of stock or over 600
Probably around early next year
ohh
But no one can be sure
As we are not nivida
There are also many bots that track if they are in stock and can help you find when they go instock
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ is this build good? is there anything wrong with it?
I think your link is broken.
here
why?
It doesn't have VRM cooling and looking it from outside it seems to be a MK1 armor
and MK1 is not great though.
If this is for gaming I'd go with a cheaper cpu and mobo and go with a more powerful gpu
@arctic jungle
lmao ofc
so i should go for the i5 instead of i7 and get a better gpu?
Though he can upgrade later on, a 580 will do just fine on any title.
wow imine intel
Up to you...also do you really need to OC a K chip?
You can also go for 10th gen aswell, it does have HT
can you explain what OC a k chip?
oh
Intel's cpu skews are kind of confusing
Also i don't see a cooler on your list, you known that K series don't come with a cooler, right?
yeah i know i will add coolers later
Alright.
@stark scroll ill go on pcpartpicker and see if I can make anything better for cheaper
Damn, rx 570 and 580 is hella overpriced.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HHbCrr id personally wait a little while until prices drop bc right now they are atrocious
Eh...
5600 xt is eh.
I wouldn't go for it.
Drivers are still a issue.
Well its competition is the rtx 2060 and it destroys that
Though rtx 2060 have more headroom for OC aswell
Umm ram is bad
Yeah but there is no way it can make up all that fps with OC
Crucial ballistic 3600mz cl 16 is better
Jesus christ, 2060 is very overpriced rn
Everything is overpriced
I'd just wait until prices normalize to buy pc parts
Yeah
Ya why are they so expensive
And rtx 3070 & 3080 stock to arrive, as rtx 20xx will drop in price.
ok i got it thanks @little osprey and @little osprey
There are some good black Friday tech deals though
If you want, i can recommend a build.
Ya if so i might 2060 or if 306 drops i might get it
If you need more options to go for
You can get a 500gb 970 evo for 60 bucks rn
You wil need a heat spreader
Yeah those samsung nvme controllers get toasty

AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X or intel i7 9700k which one is better?
I5 10400f 1650 4gb thoughts?
10th gen
What mother board should I use if I want to have a i7 10700k 16 gig and a 3070
Also if someone can help me w a build I would greatly appreciate help me pick parts
Sff? If no
Get a 1660 super or 1650 super.
@formal vector what’s your budget
I think 1500
Usd
Yeah
Yeahhh
Reason: Bad word usage
It doesn’t matter
thank you
It means
If you have a nvme or anything that goes in m.2 one Sata port won’t work
Sata is hard drive and ssd
Again don't buy rn unless you absolutely have to
ok thank you
Is this build good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/znzFXb
@little osprey
@stoic island
Let me take a look on that psu
Other than that it is pretty okay.
The psu seems decent.
@little osprey what if my pc does a brrrr
sn750 is fine
Wdym
Bomb psu?
nyeo
newbie here... how do you guys like ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO
🤷
Grab 2tb wd blue
It is like 10$ more
They dont have any
Oh wait nvm, it is a 5400rpm
My bad
just get a $55 7200rpm barracuda
B
how much do you need to worry about part compatibility? like if it all fits in the motherboard is it typically fine?
Unless its red
it's fine pcpp tends to get it wrong sometimes
not a perfect site but it's still good
Ye
‘
Is this list good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jQTzZZ
Yes.
Ok
Anything that could be better
Maybe this ram instead?
@little osprey one thing tho, what's with white ram with black mobo in a white case?
@little osprey why
why go down in freq
@little osprey make sure to get lancool ii mesh
Ok
Is it appropriate to ask a tech question about my PC in here, or is there another channel?
Sure, this works.
I don't think much can be improved
You are fine with that build.
=[]=‘
Oops
I got a 5800x and an ASUS TUF x570 Plus. When attempting to post, i've been seeing the DRAM light on, meaning there is an issue with the ram. I have tried every slot, and both configurations for dual channel according to the manual, no success. I have also used other ram, both of which are on the MOBO's compatibility list from ASUS.com. I was just wondering if this is an RMA issue, or if it could be related to my x570 mobo not having the bios update to support the new Ryzen CPUs.
I would place my bet on bios update at the moment, it's fairly likely that's an issue.
Trying to decide if I RMA it, or spend time finding another AMD processor. Unfortunately I don't have one, haha
I have an issue with my aio. I don’t know if I plugged it in wrong or it dosent work. Where do you guys usually plug an aio in?
I believe there is a program from amd that you can request a cpu to update your bios
@proud acorn try this
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-105
@little osprey There is. I have heard some horror stories tho. I am mostly worried that if it really is the DIMMs then I waste my available refund time, haha.
@proud acorn Sounds like an RMA assuming you've tried beta bios too. I have the same issue with my STRIX B550f every other boot, will be replacing my RAM
What is the issue exactly?
I don’t know if the pump is running or not
Well, good luck finding the issue though
Where would you usually plug an aio in?
is there only one version of the gtx 1070 sc ?
@barren reef I don't think it's an option for them to be able to update it
@daring jetty CPU_Fan for the fans, and there's usually a dedicated pump header for the pump
@blazing aurora you know that "sc" is the name of a type of model of EVGA GPUs right
Thanks for the help everyone. The whole BIOS and CPU thing just threw me through a loop. It's an extra step making things weird, haha
sometimes there's 4, 6, and 8gb models of gpus so i wanted to make sure
ohh okay
all 8gb
i found one that was $100, is that a good deal
1070 for 100$? Absolutely.
Usually rx 570 and 580 sits on 100$ price tag
Used that is.
yeah
i've been trying to get my hands on a 580 but all the sellers i've contacted don't respond
and they're well priced too, i've found some in original packaging for ~85$
Thats nice tho
Also check with the seller if that 1070 isn't broken or something
mhm some listings are broken gpu for parts
according to the seller it's in great quality
just make sure it's in good condition, ask for proof if possible
gotcha
If I wanna get extra ram does the ram I buy have to be the exact same as the ram that’s already in my pc?
I have black Corsair RGB ram 2x18 could I get a pair of white or would that not work?
I wouldn't try it
Just make sure it's the same frequency and timing and size when buying another pair
I just wanna get the exact same ram but in white @stoic island
They seems to have better coolers
Is it good
Noctua isn't a great choice for mid end coolers
anyways
Anyone used a lian li Galahad aio?
Ah, didn't known
I should take a look and reseach about coolers
@stoic island appreciate all the pc help btw you and a few others have made the switch from console to pc a lot easier
@little osprey ick corsair vengeance rgb
anything else
just
G.skill Aegis/Flare X/ripjaw/trident z neo/rgb/royal/
Cruciall ballistix/rgb
just
not vengeance rgb
Intel builds are fine, they also allow to grab in slower ram or entry level mobo
wdym?
@little osprey it's not "allow for" grabbing slower ram and entry level mobo, it's forcing you to get slower ram and entry level mobo lel
like h410+say 10100+2666mhz ram is just sad
might as well get B550 hdv+3100+3200c16 ram
about the same price
:P
Should have made that phrase better though
It’s for someone he is building a pc he wanted a amd or a intel to see what he wanted
i would say grabbing 2666 for an intel build isnt worth either way
@little osprey 10600k is a lot cheaper than kf so might as well
You are right but 3100 is overpriced right now.
Ok
Yes
because you can get a kit of 3200 or 3600 for the same price and tighten timings
and would easily be put in new builds
How about this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sfhFXb
how many of the people that come around looking for budget builds are willing to tune ram
if you have a budget build i'd expect you to tune everything
@little osprey Any reason for a freezer 34?
Dunno man, most of the people that come for a budget build are the people that want a prebuilt, at least that I've seen
Looks good and works good
Hey, I made a pc list earlier, but nobody was really in this chat at the time. I did get a small correction, but want to see if there is any issues with it still since they said they really didn't know.
I mean...
Wait what
K cheaper than kf? Bruh
you havent seen real budget until youve been in the LSG discord (dont join it rn mods are being super mega dumb) and everyone there wants to tweak as much as they can
@tame siren Let's see, what's with the aio choice, mobo choice, and case choice?
@wheat coral well I lurk here, and I base my suggestions from here for here.
me and keli were both regulars in the LSG discord but left due crappy mod team
genshin impact ultralow pls
lolol
ofc a lot of people do a ton of tuning to get perf in lower budgets
but those people aren't the same people coming here looking for a build
I personally would definitely tune the ram if I'm forced onto an Intel non-Z mobo
All of those were changed from what I originally had, I was unsure if the case would be big enough. I did some extra researching, and it would seem the mobo I have might need a BIOS update for the newer CPU.
Here's the thing
300$ motherboard for a 300$ chip doesn't really make much sense to me
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GP6qbh is this a good build? i already purchased some of the parts and marked them as purchased but i would like advice on the other remaining parts
and also, I hate the O11 for not being big enough to allow for good air coolers
It looks big for no good reason, even the O11 mini has better clearance
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like O11 mini has 170mm iirc, O11 has 155mm cpu cooler clearance
Hmm, that is a pretty good point. I kept having an issue with mobo finding, and don't really have an idea of what to correct with since I'm pretty new to PC building shenanigans.
Is that a good monitor https://www.amazon.com/AOPEN-25MH1Q-Pbipx-Technology-1920x1080/dp/B08BG5K665
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Alright, lemme just change it to what I'd personally do
damn it freezer ii is all oos
@stoic island
@tame siren Ram change is personal preference, CPU cooler kind of placeholder, case is personal preference beyond a list of good cases, PSU wise, amp is basically a RMx, and I'd get 750w for single rail.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHpzZZ
board is somewhat placeholder, but it's a good board, and has bios flashback if needed to update bios
the @ was at the start of the message >:(
lel
https://www.amazon.com/AOPEN-25MH1Q-Pbipx-Technology-1920x1080/dp/B08BG5K665 good monitor or no
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@polar anvil TN panel not so nice
Is this a good list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7rRYW3
looks good to me
Ok
So it should work if I got those parts?
Of course with a BIOS update since it seems that might be required with the new CPU.
Can you please explain what’s wrong with it
yea Bios update is basically gonna be required for now, and that board (B550 aorus elite ax) will alow you to update bios without a CPU installed, and update bios via USB stick
@polar anvil TN Panel tend to have bad colors
Okay thx
Should I be safe with the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB RAM? DDR4.
eek I hate Corsair Vegeance RGB ram's design
make sure to get 3600mhz cl16 either way, but try this if you want 32gb of sticks with rgb
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548870-REG/crucial_bl2k16g36c16u4bl_ballistix_rgb_32gb_16x2_3600.html
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K.
I have a 1050 TI and a processor from 2012 and 8GB DDR3. I'm upgrading the cpu, mobo, and ram for christmas so will my 1050 TI still be viable to run things like COD and RDR2 at decent frames? The CPU and ram is my bottleneck rn and I can't run COD or really anything from 2018 forward other than like Among us
What cpu is that
AMD FX 4300 quad core
I mean, 1050ti itself will be a bottleneck with a modern CPU on there.
Oh
U could sell it and get 1650 super or 1660 super
I don't need 4k or anything
well
I was thinking about a 1660 super I found one for like $245
What's going to be the total budget for an upgrading including a GPU?
I'm asking for the CPU mobo and ram for christmas at around a 400 budget but was thinking of waiting on the gpu until my bday in april
on PCPartaPicker I priced an AMD R5 3600, 36GB DDR4, and an ASUS mobo for a little over 400
What PSU do you have right now?
I'm gonna guess it's not very good (meaning you might want to upgrade)
A 400W 80+ Bronze
What model?
Corsair
Brand doesn't tell me much :(
brand =/= model name
i kinda wish pcpartpicker was more consistent with pricing even if the parts are not available
idk I can't get to it rn
Hello hei
hi
me too I wish you could specify if you want to use Amazon or newegg or best buy or whatever else
you can specify @fiery bear :D
oh lmao I had no idea
That was in response to Needle, not you Joker. I do agree tho, I also dislike no pricing on OOS things
lol sorry bout that
yeah, specific part tho
@fiery bear This would be everything I would personally likely want to get, as an example
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YG6p3Z
fixed it but its still stupid
since you said the CPU was from 2012, I'm just gonna guess the PC was built around that time, and that's where/why the SSD and PSU suggestions are coming
i remeber almost getting staked and burned cause i was recommending a 2070 and it was showing like 700$ lolol
I have an NVME SSD to use for a boot drive already but other than that looks good
fair
which brand of ssd nvme
WD
thats good
Wd blue?
yeah 256G
Nice.
wd nvmes are pretty good
@stoic island Just double checking to be sure, but I'm good with what I have on this list. Updated the RAM to the one you recommended for 32GB since I'm a sucker for RAM. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7JRYW3
fair
mr.1111 im surprsied you dont get paid lmaoo
CPU Cooler could be changed if you want to, but I really like the NH-U12a
cause this really be feeling like a full time job
I should be fine using that though?
If this was a full time job i'm dropping out of college rn lmao
Yea ofc
same
Some people prefer AIOs and really dislike me recommending Noctua coolers because aesthetics, so just mentioning that.
If I got paid minimum wage or more I’d drop outta middle school
I mean elementary school
Bet. Building one for Christmas to go with a VR headset, so when I'm playing my VR, I wouldn't even see the computer box.
middle school 🤦♂️ 🤣
fair enough
I’m gr 8
I have an OG oculus but i'm thinking of selling to get the quest 2 so I can use it wired or wireless
when I have the pc to handle vr ofc
Joking aside, I'm changing from a 1070 and an AMD R5 2600 since I've been meaning to get something nice and strong for playing games. Yeah, I'm getting Quest 2 also.
i had a 1070 ti a while ago and theyre strong cards in their own right
my friend is selling and AMD R5 1600x for 200 and i thought about buying it from him because his pc is only about 3 months old
And maybe I have a small addiction for Rust on max settings with high FPS, but I'm not just going to admit that.
but my current mobo doesn't support AM4 chipset which is what ryzen is
love the irony with that statement and your name @tame siren
that causes physical pain
The cat is in the back
true
Saw that sh*t on the pcmr subreddit lol
the stock of everything is hard to come by rn
Have a feeling I'm going to be hard wrestling to get my hands on a 3080 and the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
ive been scared to post my build on fb cause itll make me a wanted man lolol
Good luck with that lmao
youre not fighting me
Thanks, I'll most certainly need that luck.
youll have to pry it off my cold dead hands
lolol but my gigabyte aorus master rtx 3080
Intel 🤮 🤣
my friend got the i7 9th gen at microcenter
holding steady at 5.0ghz on the dot all cores so i mean.....
fair enough
Going on a manhunt to find the 3080 and AMD Ryzen 5 5600X since AMD master race
thats what i was talking about needle lol
^^
the 3080
Why do you have a 500 dollar mobo
my mobo is 339.99 atm
That’s expensive
and its to handle alot of power
Oh
and needle its no amd or intel master race
Not going for aesthetic with this PC and it damn well shows. A white case with all black parts.
this is the pc master race
how much for the digital edition lmao
We have two ps5's in here, launching the PC master race gang.
lmaoo
oh damn lmao
Why is there anime on ur gpu
why the hell not lmao
Wow
I saw a gpu with a double display on an LTT vid and and they gave it away for free just pay shipping
Can't wait to post my ugly but powerful PC in #build-pics. Speaking of unsatisfying PC aesthetics, white case, all black parts, and a white cooler with some brown.
it was a 3080
Would u rather have a gaming pc or this
pcs more practical for me
and less expensive
more maintenance
constantly putting gas in more money insurance
need a trailer to haul it
pc maintenance I can do but i'm no mechanic
need a car to haul it
My dad has 300 acres of property and 3 of those
lmaoo should i continue
I can change oil and add brake fluid and change lightbulbs thats about it
Imagine not have 100gb of 5mbps internet
f
imagine having 600mbs down and 20 up
Is that bad
not if its unlimited
Is that what u have
thats over half a gig down thats pretty good if you have unlimited
yep
Cool
bai
It takes 5 seconds for a 600 kB pic to send
good night
gn
ima dip for now too lol peace
wrong chat
ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
for this mother board, there is pcie power connector next to the m.2 ssd
does that need plugged in from the PSU?
Hey al, can u tell me what's a better build? I see the prices, however, they seem similar me
I'm also not.... I'm surface lvl knowledge
second one is better
Does the first one says what ssd and psu?
also prob not. two main things that connect to the motherboard from psu are 24pin and cpu power connector
He figured it out @little osprey
👍
Wait so the 2nd one is better? I'm just trying to get a good prebuilt starterfor myself
Oh well.
for a prebuilt its pretty good
but also it doesnt specify the brands of multiple things
Yeah...
Would be cheaper to build the pc by youself though
And windows keys are usually cheaper on like...ebay
Plus that ddr4 ran might 2666
So thats alot of question about that prebuilt.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7RGj2 Thoughts on my Budget 700 pc build? I tried my best to use every dollar in my advantage, I’d appreciate feedback before ordering!
Anyone available for a quick advice on a SSD?
@little osprey which best buy 👀
I'm going to have a M.2 for Windows, and for certain apps for startup. Would it be best to hold off on the $10 for a 512GB, or go for the sale for 1TB.
https://www.newegg.com/seagate-barracuda-510-512gb/p/N82E16820248082 This is the SSD I'm talking about. The 1TB version is 20 dollars off right now, and 10$ more than 512.
@rancid pasture https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fsqhP6/team-mp34-512-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4512g0c101 <- 1 usd cheaper, but faster
@summer charm that is expensive for a 1tb of that performance tier
I'm trying to buy parts now since I just got off work.
uh thats 512gb not 1tb
Decent, i wouldn't cheap out on psu and rather switch to a s12iii, evga br or cx500.
$112 for a 512 is really overpriced
could just go with a generic seagate 2tb hdd
Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB 7200 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive Bare Drive
Is my plan it's a 51.99$
Seagate Barracuda 120 SSD 1TB Internal Solid State Drive - 2.5 Inch SATA 6GB/s for Computer Desktop PC Laptop (ZA1000CM1A003)
for $94.99, which will be my primary game drive.
"Computer Desktop PC Laptop" tf?
thats the normal one we recommend, so IF you really want/need a HDD. then that will be a decent drive.
Should I use a 660p as a extra game drive?
that 120 ssd is just a bad value too
.-. This is my first PC, so I'm not sure what is the best for value.
I bought the 660p like 2 years ago for my laptop but I never used it
I just know Seagate is trustworthy.
sn750 and seagate 2tb will be enough
I'm wanting a game drive though. Sn750 will be for Windows, Steam, Discord, Uplay.
brand names dont mean anything.
and 2tb will be for indie, and not compacting games.
and personal use.
So would it be best to get two segate 2tb?
naed got any good ssd's for this man?
do you really think you need that space?
^
Reason: Bad word usage
.
no swearing
I'll have RDR2, Ark, GTA5, and big games like that.
and the HDD price has been steady for a LONG time now
That's why I'm looking for a drive mainly for games.
i still think youll be fine with just the 512gb and the 2tb hdd
go with what we have already listed mp34/sn750 AND a 2tb HDD
and you will be fine for a good while
you are welcome
👍
Also can I get judgement of a case, and maybe help with what I need for it?
trust. it will take a while to fill all that space up
This is what I'm going to be getting.
As of what you have told me.
I'm planning on upgrading to Ryzen 5600x and 6800xt once they come out.
The 3600x is a place holder for now, and I'll be using my 1060 6gb till then.
do you really need 32gb ram?
I will for the Ryzen 5600x and 6800xt for what I've been reading.
you can save a bunch on the mainboard if you want?
^
Will it still be able to hold what I need?
yeah
I don't think you need a x570
Maybe a b450 or b550 would be enough.
you need the wifi ?
I have ethernet.
b550 is preferred
let me ask in a different way.
@little osprey, For 5600x I'll be needing an newer board.
Do you want wifi on the board for future convinence?
wireless connection
Eh...you can awlays pop in a wifi card.
but ethernet faster ig
It is aha.
@foggy hazel, if it doesn't affect anything I don't mind the extra ability. but I'm going to be running ethernet, so.
noted @summer charm
If it won't affect my upgrade, I'll go with whatever.
I may need to pop in here and ask how to upgrade an bios, but.
I'm going to probably eventually be running 1x M.2, 1x SSD, and 2x HDD. (1 HDD will be for Family use, not for my personal use. Rather not try to explain that more.)
MSI isn't good I thought?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LxJp3Z <- that shrinks everything down a bit
board is m-atx and i changed the case to m-atx too
how good is the m-atx tho.
i have the msi board but i cant use it cause i got a defective cpu. 🙂 so i need to send it off to amd for a replacement or repair
like I heard it's best to go atx.
^
doesn't it affect cpu aio and stuff?
Atx in like case or mobo?
would prefer 4x8 though.
re: ram change: that shaves off another 20usd
true.
But from what I've been reading It'll help boost the memory for 5600x and 6800xt.
and latency will shrink, and help with performance.
based on data I'm looked at.
Although I'm new to this, so.
last change
i changed your psu to something that is actually worth owning
with a warranty that matches
your call on the ram, i would personally go 2*16, for the simple convenience of not having spare sticks when you add more later
Also i would recommend to go for 3080 tho instead of 6800 xt @summer charm
Because 3080 have RTSS so you can lower the res and upscale with the RT cores.
3080 is like 100 bucks more.
Oh oof
either of the GPU's have one big problem, which is availability.
and doesn't really work well with Ryzen.
No?
it works just fine with Ryzen
Thats not how the works lol
whatever you might have heard on that one, is not true
Both nvidia and amd gpus works well with amd or intel cpus
I can't really talk, I bought a pc with a FX4300 and 1060 6gb
ye....
It peforms worse than a i3 2100
at the time, my cpu I had was like half the performance.
so...
it was 2x better than what I had.
lol.
Oh ok, my friend had a fx 6300 and it bottlenecked his GPU heavily
It was a 1050 ti and he had like 20-30 fps on a game where it should be atleast 60+
Also 6800xt is 50$ cheaper than 3080
277 on pcpp, but amazon is saying 289 https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3600XT-12-threads-processor-dp-B089WC4VWF/dp/B089WC4VWF/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
wait that the XT.
oops
Ye.
Amazon protection plans are expensive.
damn.
are they even worth it.
@foggy hazel are protection plans even worth it for amazon's price?
imo, i dont see the point of them. if you buy things that have actual warranty that is
As long as you aren't a dumb*ss you should be fine
well yeah.
but keep in mind, amazon is not exactly something we use over here for pc parts :)
And the warranty covers stuff like doa parts
DOA parts are covered no matter what you do. That is general consumer law, even in the US.
Warrantys cover everything except user error right?
Yep, but depends on what warranty tho
It is a really bad time to buy any part except ssds
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MHcgPV Is this a decent first time build and if not what could be changed?
Like some cover X and some warranties don't
@steep rune unless you are one of the people from Geek Seek, its not nice to claim their build as yours
Ssds are really cheap right now
@foggy hazel The PSU, and CPU are out of stock on Newegg right now, so I can't really get them on there.
A 3100 on pcpartpicker is 200 usd and a 10100 is only 100
2sec, lets find something else for you then @summer charm
and i would personally have no problem with ordering that psu from amazon.
because i know the warranty is good on that model.
i dont personally believe in rgb as an option, so ... yeah :)
Its personal preference what ever you want as long as the case isn't a hot box
It's one Naed gave me.
just grab the psu from amazon @summer charm
Yeah, won't I need another for front?
nah
Okey.
You can get a 5 pack of Arctic pwm fans on Amazon for 30 bucks
Its a nice looking case
Debating on 4x8 or 2x16.
4x8 simple and more processing.
2x16 same thing just less flow.
basically 30 dollar difference too.
Which one is more expensive again
Reason: Bad word usage
Sorry Mee6.
not the reason he is doing it, its the single/dual rank stuff that GN did a video about @little osprey
Ah
So instead of 3600 I need 3200...
From what I'm understanding.
@foggy hazel, so from what I just read, it's better for me to have 3200 than 3600 for Ryzen?
3600@cl16 is the normal recommendation
aye
ty.
What cpu do you have @summer charm
I'm going to be getting the R5 5600x and 6800xt/3080 when they become available. for mean time R5 3600, 1060 6GB.
1060 6GB I already own.
just a matter of CPU upgrade.
From my understanding ryzen 5000 loves high speed low latency ram and running quad channel over dual channel has quite a big improvement on the 5600x
This benchmark started as an AMD Ryzen 5000 memory timings and frequency benchmark (like of 3600 vs. 3200, 3800, with FCLK changes), but morphed into a 2x8GB vs. 4x8GB benchmark.
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Watch our AMD R5 5600X CPU review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01EhbmJAW-k
Watch our AMD R9 5950...
Time to get four sticks of ram 
and I just got a 2x16 gig kit too
Nice pfp btw
H2A has the best cutscenes
For sure man
stuck at work all day and now the ram i needed is sold out
but hey at least i can get this on sale...
https://www.newegg.com/p/0BR-0137-00001?Item=9SIA2NA4PT4612
Nice.
not sure why anyone would need it, but its on sale
yeah
Plus idk about US but where i live the bread is already cut.
unless you make it yourself it usually is here too
Ye.
Sorta
Sorta sorta isnt a place but ok
I just built into a DIYPC Vanguard v6 rgb case and the lights and fans will not go on. What did I do wrong? The included instructions were super vague.
Everything else works
Should have a made PCPP list instead
So...why are you grabbing a K chip with a B365?
You need atleast like a Z series mobo to OC it(i might be wrong here.)
The 1660 ti is fine.
Ram & hdd is okay
Ssd you can switch to bx500 if you are on a thight budget or search for a cheap ssd with dram
Is there anything else?
Aside from what i said...it is fine i guess, i have no ideia about cases tho
Anyway...yeah, just checked and you need a Z motherboard for OCing
You can either go for Z series mobo or switch to a 9400f
So I just learned that 3600mhz cl14 ram is probably the best ram you can get without spending a ton of money.
~3.92ns response time
My friend recently bought 4000mhz cl18 speed and I did the math, he's getting 4.5ns response time, and I did the math for your typically ram setup that you would see at 3600mhz cl16,
And even that is only at ~4.48ns response time
Yeah I know no one cares but I thought it was cool
@little osprey no such thing as quad channel on AM4, it's dual rank dual channel, and for that matter 2x16 is better than 4x8 on the vast majority of boards
@earnest olive but there are four dimm slots on most Mobos, 2 for each channel. Right?
yes
A1,A2,B1,B2
4 slots does not mean 4 channels
Yes, so running 4 dimm sticks would be no different from running 2
false
Care to elaborate?
splits the channel between two ram sticks or something
not an expert, but that's the extent of my understanding lol
two considerations
most 8GB sticks are single rank and most 16GB sticks are dual rank
not 100% but maybe 99%
What is the rank?
dual rank interleaving increases total throughput despite usually having to run at lower clock speed or looser timings
the other consideration is board memory topology
the traces on the pcb are laid out in one of two ways
- daisy chain, where you have the two primary memory channel slots, then the traces branch out to the other slot
- t-topology, where all 4 slots have equal trace length
daisy chain results in lower latency for the first 2 sticks, but higher latency for the second 2 sticks
while t-topology is slightly higher latency for all 4 sticks
most boards are daisy chain but you can check your specific board using the AM4 motherboard list
so 2x16 gives you the benefits of rank interleaving without the increased latency penalty of the daisy chain
as opposed to 4x8 which gives you the benefits of rank interleaving but also the penalty of daisy chain
but i guess to a common user, this shouldn't matter right?
Not at all
well
depends on common user
most users only going 16gb anyways
so it's whatever
I only have 16gb myself so I don't benefit from knowing this
Yeah, so you could just be cool and run 2 dummy sticks for asthetics
tru me too
I've already overspent on aesthetics
I havent
I run 16gb too, so I don't benefit from know it, but in a case where someone does need more than 16gb of ram it helps to know because if they still need good RAM response times, you know you know that there is a slight penalty for using all for dimm slots, and having let's say that you want 3600cl14 ram, for that 3.98ns response time, then you know that you ain't gonna find more than 2x8gb of it
2x16 3600c14 is definitely possible
Really now?
maybe not at xmp but manual
someone managed to push ddr4 beyond 7000mhz a few days ago
you really think 3600c14 dual rank is out of reach?
Well, no, but not for what I would get
G skill neo
But asthetics don't matter for some, but me it does
I mean
the amount I've spent on aesthetics is worth 3 times as much as the temporary gpu I'm stuck on

gtx 1060..
There is no problem with that lol
I have/had a rx5600xt that I didn't even get to use. I am potentially trading it for a gtx 1660super and a xbox one x
doesn't corsair make 5000mhz ram now