#building-and-recc-chat
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Bitwit PC build guide
linus tech tips POV guide
ltt gang
lyle gang
32 gig kit just arrived in the mail and got installed
400mhz and 2 nanoseconds faster, twice the size
ok are there any modifications I should make to my design? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2fjnL
what are you gonna use it for
gaming and recording and editing videos
and Im guessing your budget is 1k?
correct
go ryzen
^^
if you are lucky you might be able to snag a R5 3600X for cheaper than a normal 3600
which model?
wdym?
np
ive built a couple two three computers now but ive never done one with a liquid cooler like the krakens
if i do one with the krakens do i have to liquid cool the whole thing and have pipes and stuff
Made this build list for my cousin
people say that water cooling is dumb but it is cool as long as you arent stupid ith it
apart from that is everything good?
Wait wrong link
cheaping out on mobo and GPU
thats my worry though I just wanna liquid cool the cpu and not have liquid flowing around the whole thing
AIO it i guess
Custom Water cooling is a whole different thing than just cooling your CPU with an AIO
I suppose for 1080p its good but he would need to upgrade the GPU for anything better than that @little osprey
I have a gigabyte one
@wanton cliff why is the ryzen better? It brings the build over my budget and i would need to find a different motherboard and idk what to get and Im not sure if its worth it
My friend's mobo came in today. HE IS SCARED HE WILL SHOCK IT AND DIE
I think the best B550M board is the aorus pro
First time builders are so cute
we were all there once
ikr
AIO = All in One and is just for the CPU. They are closed loops.
thx
Yeah I used to make unrealistic builds
I still have them saved on my pcpartpicker
im gonna cool an i7 with a x63 maybe
depends tho
cuz i dont know which one i want yet
the question is: with my 2080ti and 5600x do i run 16gigs of ram or 32
Better workstation CPUs for your video editing
plus from what I hear 10400F is a bit underpowered
ok. Do you recommend a motherboard?
gonna need a second opinion tho
the one I have isnt compatible
you can get a cheap B550 from a lot of places
16 gigs is more than enough for most things, if you do a lot of heavy workstation stuff go 32
@forest glen what state do you live in
i mod minecraft a crap ton
is it asus or msi? What brand?
what?
@little osprey why do you ask?
minecraft isnt that intensive
Asus and MSI are both great brands for mobos
Do you have a micro center near you
mods are
not really
I live in washington state
MSI is my personal choice
depends what you're wanting to do
I would know, I play modpacks with 500+ mods
Asus is good but more expensive
yeah
16GB of ram is enough for gaming
Yeah don't think there is one
16gigs is more than enough for gaming
if you ever do go 32, get 4x8
if im finding that not enough i guess i can get more
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK or MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
unless youre rendering or editing
oops
theyre the same thing
yea
B550M Aorus pro is the best mATX mobo
my bad
And cheap
MAG tomohawk is my friend board
i do do a fair amount of rendering and editing yes
bruh
MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK or MSI B550-A PRO
a pro
What
bruh
No
Friendship ended with prebuilt mobos, Asus is my friend now
tomahawk all the way
anyone got a recomendation for the best aio for a i7 9700k
I feel everybody’s favorite is the Tomahawk
ok tomahawk it is
Everybody blew up on the Tomahawk just for that BIOS flash back feature. It’s really otherwise not that great of a board iirc
$1146 :\
what makes it bad then/
BIOS flashback
another nvme
aand bios flashback is on the b550-a
thank
I can’t handle a 3900X and up iirc. But that’s the B450 version. I bet the B550 and X570 ones are better
But that’s really it for me
B450 is still solid
I need help finding a prebuilt gaming pc with like 2070 graphics card
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rwRCwz good now for gaming/ video editing and recording?
not as good as B550 or X570 tho
The B450 version is great for budget builds though
B450s can somehow get more expensive than better X570s, which is weird
more headers i think?
B550-A Pro is good
Demand, I’d imagine
pc part picker is a life saver i would have been hopeless with compatibility
same thing happened with the 3600x vs 3600
Also demand
yeah, weird
Definitely demand for the 3600 and 3600X
Dual Channel RAM or SSD?
to think there was a time when the 3600 was a max of $200
so is the tomahawk a good pick or the a pro?
the 3600 is more expensive than the 3600xt atm
i found a 2080ti yesterday for 474]
Budget-oriented and COVID is making people bored, leading people to buy more stuff
@forest glen A pro
A pro is better
thats 2 different answers 😦
I believe it, on account of new GPUs
what makes the pro better?
Neither, both are overpriced
@cursive wharf which one then?
i was gonna go for 3070 but 474 for a 2080ti is a bargain
Look at buildzoids review on it
no kidding
what would be a good budget for a 3080 build?
Also you really cant buy a 3070
AsRock b550 Phantom Gaming 4 for $115
yea
$1500-2k?
i hate asrock lol
curiosity: why?
are there any good places to buy or backorder the 5600x in canada?
ty
I consider them a mrore cheaper brand
I’d actually go with the Tomahawk, doing a bit of research
Sound controller and M2 E port
I could use the 2.5Gbps ethernet and the optical audio output
yeah
Eh, cheap 10g card is better
how much do you guys think prices will go down by on monday?
Not much at all
the tomahawk will be on sale for $140
aight, name and PFP change time
Most of the prices of new stuff will be the same
oi
Oh yeah lol forgot about Cyber Monday
nice
OI
will it most likely go down monday or friday
WTF
I’d imagine Black Friday and Cyber Monday would be great times to buy that board @forest glen
But I’d only imagine
the tomahawk will be on saale for $40 less
Newegg has tons of Black November deals going on
for $140 on black friday
ok yeah thanks!
@little osprey list is private
this part list is private
^
my bad hold up
Mk
Mk
Mk
Mk
Who else remembers the LSAT in BO2?
Also, iirc b550 Aorus Elite is cheaper the Tomahawk, better deal
Aorus is good
Wow, I'm kinda surprised.
Have Gigabyte boards gotten better?
Apparently MSI is the only motherboard maker who has mATX motherboards with a USB-C header
I'm confused, does the ASRock B450M Pro4 have 3 Chassis fan headers or 4?
fr
There’s nothing on that list
lmao
Some gigabyte boards are certainly good for the price. Idk if much of them are worth it, but some are
is it still privated or somethin i just changed it
Literally my third build atm
wait it took me to my list
It’s not private
bruh moment
ok holup
if not i give up
Kraken for I7?
well first off, scrap the windows os and just get one cheaper on ebay or something
yea obv
or just dont pay for windows lmao
I mean yeah you can not pay but then you dont get some of the aesthetic and cosmetic stuff that I like to have
@little osprey get a cheaper case (something under $100 would perform better). Downgrade the CPU and get a better GPU. Something Ryzen would be good. It’ll come with its own cooler so you don’t have to pay over $250 for an AIO
That’ll give you a much greater budget for a GPU
or do Arch and virtualize windows
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rwRCwz thoughts?
Don’t fall for everybody’s first build with the NZXT case
I dont think the tomahawk has enough USBS for me lmaooo
I mean unless he needs the cpu, depends on what he's doing
if it's just gaming yeah he can prob downgrade
yeah still tho
Solid cooler, works well with my 3800X
if you need more than 8 usbs
A downgrade in cooling would be fine as well though. $280 is literally the price of my 4K smart TV
that is a bigger issue
Do you really need the tb ssd when you have a 2tb hdd?
lianli
yea i always buy tb
you could atleast get a cheaper ssd
just somethin i do
I have a tb NVME and 4tb HDD
ah
I mean I like to keep things organized and get rid of things that I dont use anymore so storage isnt the biggest issue for me
or just get a td500
its fine
P400A gang
wait stupid question cause I really don't know. Can I use the CPU Fan header for a case fan? If they are both 4 pin it should be fine right?
the thermal isnt bad enough where its stopping me from getting
if he wants mesh thats his choice
I mean that case doesnt look bad but you can prob do like 20 bucks cheaper if you go phanteks or something, I think phanteks looks a bit better anyway
Theoretically speaking yeah but prepare for LOUD
read GNs review on the case
eh I m sticking with this case i cba to reasearch another case
and i did all the calculations with size already
Just gonna come out and say PHANTEKS GANG PHANTEKS GANG
Yup P300A, 400A and 500A
currently in a p300, ordered a P400A
After 500A comes the Lancool II mesh version
Price ordering
whats the best cheaper 2080
What's yalls opinions on the Razer Tomahawk
1 x CPU Fan Connector (4-pin)
- 1 x CPU/Water Pump Fan Connector (4-pin) (Smart Fan Speed Control)
- 3 x Chassis/Water Pump Fan Connectors (4-pin) (Smart Fan Speed Control)
So I SHOULD be able to have 4 fans right? And still have room for the CPU Fan?
Im fairly certain the CPU/water pump connector is for a second type of fan
gonna need a second opinion
2080 goes for $450
used
is it worth going down to an i5 and getting a p400a then just using my hyper 212 cooler to afford a 2080
overpiced af
but striclty as far as "good case or not" goes: ???
what
uh
havent done much rsearch gimmie a min
from looks aline i think airflow is decne
thats the one
a bit constricted but not the worst
its a pretty nice looking case I'll give it that
its basic
@little osprey make sure the p400A is the Digital RGB version and not the $70 one because they only provide 2 fans and it doesn't look as pleasant
^
I have the p400a digital
yeah who gets the normal
Fr lol
Also you do need a usb to download windows right?
how much thermal compound do i add for an aio water cooler with a 5600x
pretty sure my floppy disk will still work
they usually come with thermal paste already right?
no how much and where
yeah most do
If you have some might as well put some
now hold on
but like do i just put a little dab or the whole tube
But remove the stock paste from the cooler
too much thermal paste is not necessarily a good thing
Yeah i know
little peadrop
Which out of all the 5700xt are the best
power cooler devil or sapphire nitro
Ok thanks
Anyone want to buy my gigabyte 5700XT for $400
yeah sapphire is good
best AIB for radeon products
Evga and Sapphire
no just sapphire
Sapphire
EVGA
Nvidia is arguable
ASUS is pretty good but Nvidia has really been kicking pretty strong with the FE cards
FTW3 is best
Again, arguable
mhm kp better
yeah, in the EVGA sphere KP cards are better
The red devil is cheaper for the 5700xt right
I believe so yes
I would rate that the best 5700xt
Really depends on where you look with Radeon cards
best regardless of price is Sapphire
I will die on this hill
I mean it's pretty much the same
Cooling solutions and aesthetic differ
Just size difference and similar PCB
if you want the best regardless of price it would probably be the lq red devil
its like 600 tho :/
Quick question the 2060super that I wanted sold out this morning so should I just wait till it comes back?
Or try to buy something else?
How much were u planning to spend
It was $400
I don’t want to spend more than $400 for my gpu
Unless it’s like 410$ then I’m ok with it
is a cpu cooler required? My case is meshify c and my cpu is R5 3600
not unless you overclock
It's not required since it comes with a stock cooler, but the stock cooler doesn't perform as well as an aftermarket cooler
R5 3600 stock is good
Which can limit your speed
The speeds are lower when you use stock cooler
Without an overclock
False information
fake news
Your cpu checks temps
ik
You don't gain much from OC on AMD. Matter of fact you shouldn't even mention that on anything but 5000 series
ok. im still really scared about building it as it seems really confusing
I have 4 AMD CPUs fwith 4 diff coolers
People buy aftermarket coolers and wonder why there cpu isn't lower temp without overclocking it's because it's using it's full stock potential
me having to reinstall windows after a bad overclock
Yikes
indeed
That's not accurate
anyone have any tips about building pcs?
@forest glen it's not confusing to build it, picking parts is the hardest part
Watch YouTube videos
im boosting to 4.3 with a base of 3.9 according to task manager rn
Yes and so your limiting your speeds using a stock cooler
Cooler temps just means it can sustain that clock for a little bit longer
Which is often unrecognizable
just saw linuses vid and its really confusing bc of all the wires and what I have to do
Especially on AMD
Look up bitwit pc build guide
Building a pc is easy
expensive legos
First plug in all the obvious things
then supply power
Like CPU, RAM, NVME
Legos are harder than PCs in my opinion
then supply power onto case
agreed
Ground yourself real nice
Legos take so many instructions
And then its just screwing things in
oh bitwit is a ytber i thought it was a website
With your LiveStrong™ bracelet
Hell yeah
Should I get an aftermarket cpu cooler for my i5 10thgen
My boy stefan etienne
On intel, yes
Any good recommendations
Intel stock coolers are not the greatest
Most likely on intel, yes I mean their cooler is disgusting
Hyper 212 Black Edition
noctua nhu12s
Scythe mugen 5
I was also going to reccomend that one
Goes crazy
BRB, I need to go get something to eat
$45 cooler that acts like an $80
I mean that also depends on what you want
The scythe is a thicc one
You can get lower temps or just a bigger heatsink which mostly means less noise
but cpu coolers arent loud
Check compatibility with your case and RAM
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qBYwPV Is this a good list
To wat
Is noctuas coolers good
I'd just wait and get 5600x instead
When will the 5600x be back in stock
not prettiest though ]
Q1 2021 minimum
also, 3600mhz cl18 is 2% faster on ryzen
considering I dont want to pay 556$ for a resale 1660 super. Anyone have recommendations below 300 or 250$?
So normalized or back in stock for like 5 minutes
Is this over kill for my i5 10th gen? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9gRFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-lite-240-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pw-r1
i think an aio is not needed if your not overclocking
I was planning on oc
Oh ok to what
Um idk anything I was told to do it tho
You do not need an AIO to overclock but they are easy to install most of the time
Its better to get a air cooler instead of a cheap aio
yes
Ok so what’s a good but cheap one?
No the other one
Evga clc 240 is good
Scythe mugen 5 is good for the $45 price
Noctua makes some of the best ones in terms of air cooling.
Noctua has the best fans for straight cooling PERIOD
is the 5600xt radeon a good pick?
Ig I’ll buy it then
Oh $1.50 more can't buy it anymore
No
Its ok I heard the powercolor ones are good
ok what should replace the 1660 super since i literally cant find one in stok
I am never buying new GPUs again
stock*
You take a gamble with used.
But hurts my wallet more
where do I find gtx 1660 super in stock?
If you find a legit one I saw a used 3090 for 1k on ebay
At this point my wallet is probably begging for something to kill it
hell yeah
Buying used could technically lose you money if you have to fix it it in the future. Since you are not only spending your time to fix it or have something fix it but you may also need to pay to have it fixed.
Where do you get used gpus from
With the scythe is it a 2 fan or just 1
So IMO it isn't really worth the gamble.
@little osprey
Every used GPU I bought from there was treated with perfection
Usually people mine off of GPUs and sell them though?
@idle compass On reddit, there is a subreddit called r/hardwareswap
because reddit appreciates hardware
That is usually why GPUs get sold.
Oh ok
for 1080p gaming yes
Yeah those are mostly RX580s that get mined
so? still works for gaming @cold jewel
any video editing or streaming I'd go nvidia
@little osprey With the scythe is it a 2 fan or just 1
But I can put 2?
You can add another one if you want but it's not necessary
I mean until you realize your GPU fan stops spinning or it is running at 100% fan speed while gaming the whole time due to intense mining on the card. @wanton cliff
Is anyone good at building pcs and picking good parts dm me pls
Ima add one so it looks symmetrical
I've been DM'ing you
just give this channel a budget and a use and we will all do it for you
I gave you a build.
I can build one but I can’t choose parts😂
I think this one is the same fan?https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0763TSZ59/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_FAuVFbQTYP5H0
The fans on GPUs can go bad. Not to mention with intense mining a lot of other stuff can go wrong later in the future not only paste but other things.
Is the rtx 3080 or the rx 6800 xt better for gaming only no editing or streaming
Arguably yes.
without RT, 6800XT
In raw performance, not quite. But with additional Nvidia only features, the 3080 wins.
DLSS and Nvidia Reflex (in the few games that support Reflex) make up the difference for the 3080 to win.
yeah the games im going to play they dont support ray tracing
I would like to stress, only barely
2080 super or 3070?
3070
3070
if u can get it
3070 when they come in stock.
def 3070
when will they be coming back in stock?
thx
much much better
Is a used 2080 ti for 500 usd worth it
i mean
Yes
yea
hell yeaH
ok
cant get a ryzen 5 5600 and want to build by this month
I’m going to be using https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07P55VKP7/ref=ox_sc_act_image_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Yeah there is 0.0001% chance youll find one in stock so if you cant wait just go with 3000 series
yea its just too hard
My case that I’m buying comes with 2 of those fans so I’m buying 3 more 2 for the cpu and 1 for the back of the case
or pay $50 extra on reddit
Yea im going to build in Febuary or January so im going to wait for stock to be normalized
noppe
3700x is good
yep
so yea u can go with that
i somehow got a 3070
nice
so im pretty sure it can work with that
I’m just keeping an eye out on my 2060super to be back in stock
dont need a 5600 to be ultra gamer
Also 3800X is only worth it if you really need that extra little bit of juice, and you might as well go with a 3900x after that
3800x is not worth at all
eh
3800x 
Is the 5950x worth it if your going to game
NO
No.
yeah sure
The 5600X is more than adequate for pure gaming
5950x is for people who edit and such
Get the 5950x then underclock it
What should I get if my budget is 5k usd for gaming
Ok thanks for the help guys I’m buying all my parts either today or tomorrow and the I’ll buy my gpu when it come back in stock
Lmao
If you are willing to pay for it and it is better than something that is good, then go for it
Okay sounds good
Yeah my budget was 2k but then I got 5k from winning a geography competition in my state
lit
you got 3k from a geography competition? nice
Ye cuz i dont have anything to use it for so
@idle compass which country is next to Canada
well don't spend it all on a computer just to spend it
South Sudan
A+
@idle compass wrong, Georgia
No he is right you're talking to a geography champion here
:D
Oof yea the communist republic of georgia
I don't think it's communist
Pretty sure it is
Build a communist PC
how can something be communist and republic at the same time
my next PC will be a commie themed PC
Thought most of the new nations in the caucasus swapped out after dissolution of the ussr
Don't remeber
complete with speakers blasting hardbase
Provide the same voltage to every part in the PC
NO
Yes
Georgia 🤠
bad idea
Lmao
Very good idea
I can make a Soviet pc
That'd be 12v to cpu
ayy
😳
😩
Thanks
Not enough prize cash to upgrade my 2009 honda civic
My system roles flawlessly
So I said why not build a pc
more power daddy
if you havent upgraded ur wifi in a long time
yes
My old car was a 2001 Accord
With 400k mileage
400k what
Ikr just call it ax
Got it for like 8k usd I think
400k milage uh
How many problems do you have with it
Baddie like your mommy 😩
Tbh I'd spend like 4k on the PC and 1k in the peripherals
I just found a thread on Steam of someone saying a game should be made free and 10 pages of comments saying that it is worth every penny
This
@idle compass you got keeb+mouse+monitor+headset yet?
1k is more than enough for most pweripherals
Depends
I think Im going to get the g7
If you go 4K
Headphones > headset
Lemme just rattle off some examples
Ye lol
You could spend 1k on the monitor alone
Damn so you changed your timing belt 4 times then
Everything is great
Gaming PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdTNp2
He said a Soviet Union Pc 
it is a bomb
Gaming pc more like microsoft edge pc
Not a big fan of wireless for some reason idk

damn the intel i7 9th gen for $200 or the ryzen 7 3700 for $270
Reason: Bad word usage
this thing can barely power on 

ryzen
yea honestly
I think im going to get the diablotek da series 250w for my rtx 3090 build
i think ryzen killing the game
WAIT NO
microcenter
i7 9700k
Oh then the i7
Hiroshima 😎
There’s a sale at micro center
Chernobyl
200
damn should i not build into ryzen tho?
I got 3800x for 339
same
Ew 3800x
Looking at it.
3700x is better
9900k at 300$ is actually nice
Both are bad options
i want to do editing
Oh wait I’m looking at 9700K mb
3800x is better regardless of price, and he got his for same price as 3700X
Get the i7-9900K @little osprey
Smort man
I hate when peope say that they have an i7 like which one
i3-9900K
One has SMT the other doesn’t lol
@little osprey what system you pairing with your i9-9900k?
I love you
Reason: Bad word usage
WHAT

No
feelings
But @little osprey where I was going with that. Make sure you get a beefy PSU for that OC
Can someone help, I have a 3070, asus tuf x570 wifi , g skill 32 ram and cpu 5800x. Thw board is not reading my keyboard to get into Bios
The Intel side of the force compels you
@stark moon try a usb 2.0 port
@stark moon you can’t get into bios or the keyboard isn’t responding?
Remember how fedex left the note saying i didn’t answer the door
Usb controller could be being weird, try a usb 2.0 port with the keyboard.
No I don’t
Changed ports and nothing.
Into a usb 2.0 port, and keyboard doesn't work?
It's usually blue ones are 3.0, red are 3.1
Led turns on but no response
@stark moon is your keyboard not responding or is it you just can’t get into your bios?
Rear io or front io
Because some systems have different buttons to get into bios
Ima check for keyboard being weird first, then see if it's just bios being unresponsive
Can you log into your pc and browse the web?
Nope its a first build
@stark moon anyways can you take a picture of where your keyboard is plugged in real quick?
It’s the usb laying on the desk next to the monitor stand, lol
@karmic bobcat p sure they do now
@karmic bobcat dm is an option :)
Pic perms in this channel
Neat
does that actually work now @stoic island ?
amazing
Mike finally did it
lets see if it still works in an hour
Lol
Yeah i cant upload pic but did try all ports
Hm
How can't you upload it now right after I said you could xd
@foggy hazel looks like it might've already broke
@stark moon you are plugging it into the back of the motherboard not case right
@stark moon what’s your mobo?
please pick one of the dark blue usb slots up at the top
That looks a lot like msi
It’s a TUF
No you’re tuf 😏
Oh well
@stark moon btw remember to get antennas plugged in for wifi later
But hm
Do you have another keyboard you can test with?
Yeah i tested with two keyboard
yo someone help is adoroma a reliable retailer
Isn’t there a way to get into your bios by going through windows power menu?
cuz i cant find a 1660 super ventus anywhere else
@foggy hazel if system isn't responding to keyboard, any other ideas than to get a PS/2 keeb?
@stark moon Plugged in both your 24 pin AND 8/4 pin power connectors???
@cursive magnet they get display out so they have to
Yeah i did
I got an idea
Display out is off his PCIe power
Uh no
It's no display if anything in the system is wrong
Just smack the heck out of the F2 and DEL Keys
that waterblock tho
^
Chonky
Ek aio
Yeah
aalso, those are massive fan hubs
Upper left hand corner of mobo
Anyway. Log into windows rq @stark moon
@stoic island on first boot?
Yes
No windows
Nvm
Board has a RaM error
It's asking to setup the bios atm
New build
@cursive magnet ram error makes it just not display out
^
It has display, so they're at least working
Took out ram and ssd
I doubt those are the issues
Put them back in and nothing, also tried doing it without them and nothing
Without the ssd
@stark moon you tried using case front usb ports too right?
if first boot, not much you can do without a hardware button for bios
Hm
Hmmmm
generally, strip back parts
Yea all usb porta
and try again
maybe just bad usb ports? but doubt all the ports are broken
potentially, verify that the keyboard actually works on other machiens
It’s probably the keyboard
if they have a ps/2 keyboard, it will work
Alright ill recheck connections, you guys think it could be the mobo
(to find someone with one at least)
Tech trip to the dollar store 😏
but likely hood of that is very very slim
The keyboard itself isn’t working
@stark moon by any chance do you know if you could borrow a PS/2 keyboard from anywhere?
@stark moon check if that keyboard actually works on something else.
Maybe usb controller just broke
Ok ill check. Thanks for the help
my friend isnt using external case fans that blow air out. is he dumb for that lol?
just internal case fans
what
external fans?
dont case fans go in the case?
wtf is an external case fan
oh
the general config you want to have is postive air preasure
i mean, positive pressure airflows do exist
Someone get this man a ram
more air being taken in and less being pushed out
And not the truck either
ok well im still gonna roast him if he has temp issues
thats not how it works
even with good airflow the parts can still be known to have bad temps
that ram is overpriced for 3200cl16
is it?
but it can be improved with better airflow
it is
It is
Like Ventus 2070s
its 60 bucks
is there a cheaper option?
yes
Even in a good airflow case it'll be bad temps
the 3100 isn't worth 170
^
I got the 3100 when it was at 119
Oh i know

@obsidian dove g.skill aegis should be 55$
The price for it went up so much
most 3200 ram shouldnt be over 60
but a case with no fans that lead air out is worse than the other
@obsidian dove https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqxtCz
Should be able to get those prices
his friend has only intake no exhaust
Like what exact case
This one goodhttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/XJYWGX/gskill-aegis-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c16s-8gisb
hes just not using exhaust fans
@obsidian dove https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqxtCz
he wants to save money
Td500 mesh, on the stock configuration, works amazingly with only intake
@little osprey depends on the case
Like td500 mesh
@stoic island give him this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqxtCz
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FLLjGq thoughts?
i believe it is a standard mid case
Top of the line cases
hey thats my case
@little osprey everything depends on specifics
@little osprey I wouldn't get a 9600k
i was told harddrives are too slow
@little osprey ram hella overpriced
P400a with no exhaust, still gonna perform amazingly
well the digital version cause who gets the non digital p400a 
the 970 is pricey
Something like a H510 with no exhaust.... Just... Don't...
I wouldn't get that rgb ram since its pretty pricey
all rgb ram is pricey

