#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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@versed rock I'd rather not for someone who isn't accustomed to blues

little osprey
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where i can slide my fingers key to key

stoic island
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Lel

versed rock
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God, people who don't like Blue Switches are all cottonheadedninnymuggins

brazen slate
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If you really can't tell, if you have a spare 24" monitor at 1080p, just compare that with a 1440p at 27"

little osprey
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can someone make me a 1k pc part list please

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i misspell like hell on my fiends pc

stoic island
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I have a k552 so

little osprey
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what are blueswitches?

stoic island
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There's a reason I've been looking into browns for the past like year :p

little osprey
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can someone make me a 1k pc part list please

brazen slate
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But just to get 3070 and not have 1440p 144hz for it 😔

little osprey
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i havent opened this list since july sorry 😦

stoic island
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Anyways

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Monitor wise, Msi g241

little osprey
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i mean senjo i will def get 1440p

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i said i dont notice anything different above it

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all other monitors

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hello?

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am I muted?

brazen slate
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No

little osprey
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@little osprey ur not

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oh

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ok

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lmfao

stoic island
little osprey
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but a 1k build...

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^^

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so mr111

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my budget is 1500

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but as we alrdy know im 1529

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and dont mind it

languid nimbus
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1500 with peripherals tho

little osprey
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cuz itll drop 30 bucks as im not buying this case for 94 only 73 which itll drop back downt o

versed rock
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I had the Aukey version of the K552

stoic island
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Mx330-g air @little osprey

brazen slate
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1500$ including peripherals lole

little osprey
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what is that

stoic island
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Comes with 3 fans, constantly 55$ usd

brazen slate
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Case

little osprey
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the case i have comes with 6 fans

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synchronous rgb

versed rock
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More fans does not mean better

brazen slate
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^

little osprey
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it has the fans required

stoic island
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Lmao it does?

little osprey
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the 2 ont op, 3 front 1 back

stoic island
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Heh

little osprey
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its fkn rediculously beautiful

brazen slate
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company makes case with fans on every side covered
Supposedly good
lol no

versed rock
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My P400A Digital comes with 3 fans and cools better than a LOT of cases

little osprey
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so case i am not willing to change unless dimensions arent big enough for my pc parts

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so heres new list, lets focus on monitor

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i want a nice big juicy screen

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sub 180$

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idk the different brands of monitors

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so i need help as there are many

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idk if theres been bugs in some recent ones, or bad performance in some of the companies

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so hoping a techie here could lead me, current is optix

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i would like color to lash out at me as well

brazen slate
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Monitor is fine ig

little osprey
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ik theres different screen times

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types*

languid nimbus
little osprey
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lol

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thats a 32"

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wont fit here xd

brazen slate
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TN usually gets you below 200$ with 1080p 144hz, VA and IPS not too many, but there's some for 200$ I think

languid nimbus
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ya, wouldn’t be good for pixel density either

little osprey
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hmmm for 240 bucks

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TN not worth

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Colors bad

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i forget which one was bad, va or ips?

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oh ye it was TN

brazen slate
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Both aren't bad

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TN isn't bad either

little osprey
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tn is garbo

brazen slate
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Just saying it's bad is dumb lol

little osprey
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from reviews

brazen slate
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Eh, not really

foggy hazel
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@brazen slate when talking about colours?

brazen slate
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TN might not be so colorful, but great for responses

foggy hazel
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yes, its bad vs IPS

brazen slate
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Yeah, colors

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But I'm seeing people say "TN is bad lol"

foggy hazel
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which is what Penny asked for

little osprey
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😄

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And that thing with viewing angles where you have sitting right in front

brazen slate
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VA is alright with colors, kinda in between of IPS and TN I guess is what it is but eh

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I hear has horrible ghosting sometimes

foggy hazel
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depends on panel

little osprey
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im sorry... more i look at this

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more i want to buy it

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but its soo unnecessary

brazen slate
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You could check out the G27Q if you want

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But that's probably like closer to 300$, I can't remember

little osprey
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i need to measure my table

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lol

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sht is probably length of it

brazen slate
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Used to be I saw it say 250$ or something, but not sure anymore lmao

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Eh, the desk has to be big enough to fit the stand, that's all

little osprey
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u dont understand..

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i have a wall to right of my desk

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and somethn taler than my desk to the left

brazen slate
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How would I understand right away lol

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But yeah

little osprey
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it is literally desk length max

brazen slate
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Most IPS 1440p 144hz is usually 27"

ember jetty
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Should I get a 1050 Ti as a placeholder or a GT 1030, I need to be able to stream with it until I get 3070 next year

brazen slate
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1050 Ti should be really cheap, check the prices

ember jetty
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Is this one good?

foggy hazel
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that is your choice on the model

versed rock
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It's a 1050ti...

ember jetty
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And why does it think I’m in South Africa

versed rock
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VPN?

ember jetty
finite sinew
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I was able to buy a 1070 for $150 used

versed rock
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Uhhh what are you going to stream?

finite sinew
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So if you are comfortable buying used then that is a good way to go

versed rock
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Because a 1050Ti ain't gonna stream any games.

ember jetty
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I use a 960m

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So a 1050 Ti should be fine for rn

versed rock
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You can't just slap a GPU in a laptop...

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Wat

ember jetty
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No it’s for my new build

languid nimbus
versed rock
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Oh. What are you trying to stream though?

ember jetty
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I don’t have a gpu yet because 3070 stock

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Idk, Minecraft, CS:GO, FPS games

versed rock
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Good luck

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I'd look for a Used 1070

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That will have more power and would actually let you stream

ember jetty
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I stream roblox for 30 FPS on my 960m, so the 1050 should do 40 FPS

versed rock
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Don't stream 40fps

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Either 30 or 60

ember jetty
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Also I’m not going to use the 1050 forever

little osprey
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@versed rock wtf u talkna bt, ofcrs u can slap a gpu on a laptop, take the motherboard out and slap it on there, boom 1440p graphics

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take the*

versed rock
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Penny, can you not make asinine comments?

ember jetty
little osprey
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lol

versed rock
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Wtf?

ember jetty
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XD

versed rock
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That makes NEGATIVE sense

ember jetty
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Ik

versed rock
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Then why are you doing it?!?

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Sync your stream to the framerate

ember jetty
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Also, when will 3070 actually be available

versed rock
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Realistically? Never

ember jetty
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Next January? February, March?

versed rock
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Optimistically? March of next year.

ember jetty
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Ok

little osprey
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eh my montiro 1 price, 499$ not 180

versed rock
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Realistically though, they will continue to be scalped

little osprey
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need help xd

ember jetty
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Also, how long should rendering a 720p 60fps video take

versed rock
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That depends on the setup

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My PC would probably render that in 2 to 3 minutes

ember jetty
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Umm a modern 1500$ setup

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WTF

versed rock
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That literally means nothing

ember jetty
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2 mins!

versed rock
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It takes about 5 minutes for a 1080p render without Aftereffects

brazen slate
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I mean, it's a low res 60FPS

ember jetty
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My “Gaming” Laptop takes 3 hours

versed rock
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With Aftereffects it takes about an hour

ember jetty
versed rock
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I mean, I have a Ryzen 5 3600, GTX 1070 and 32GB of RAM

ember jetty
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Wow

versed rock
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Wow? That's like the bare edge of mid-range now

ember jetty
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I have intel i7 6th gen HQ

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GTX 960m

versed rock
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My GPU is the oldest part in my rig

ember jetty
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16 gb 2333mhz

foggy hazel
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and IF you used the built in encoder on your cpu @ember jetty, it would take a LOT less time

ember jetty
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I do

foggy hazel
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not if it takes 3 hours

versed rock
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I'm honestly debating on skipping the 30 series and just getting a 2080ti Used

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I only really want to play 1440p 144hz

foggy hazel
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look up Quicksync @ember jetty

ember jetty
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Ok

foggy hazel
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@little osprey what do you need help with?

ember jetty
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My sis is taking my old laptop doe, so idrc about it

little osprey
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i need a monitor replacement

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cuz my optix one is now 499 no longer 180

versed rock
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Odyssey GET?

little osprey
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give me 23.6"+ for less than 180

versed rock
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Wat

little osprey
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not Tn

versed rock
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Uhh

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Not possible

little osprey
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panel type VA

versed rock
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Yeah, that's not possible

little osprey
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it is possible, i found this for 180 when that happened

foggy hazel
versed rock
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That was a sale

little osprey
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no

lunar thorn
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Is the 30series a big boost from the 20 series

versed rock
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And it's in stock still...

little osprey
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with only 1

foggy hazel
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look at what i just linked you @little osprey

little osprey
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then it gets restocked

lunar thorn
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I have a 1080 and I am patiently waiting to get ahold of a 3080

little osprey
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but then i saw its 1080p

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so im switchin it up to 1440p

versed rock
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...

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1440p is even more money

little osprey
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what are the good monitor companies

lunar thorn
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But but would it be a good upgrade to grt a 2080 for now or just keep waiting for 3080 when more are in stock

foggy hazel
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@little osprey 1440p at 144hz is not happening at that price.

versed rock
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An Odyssey G5 is your best option at that resolution for cheap-ish

little osprey
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ok naed

versed rock
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And that's around 300 dollars

little osprey
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ill up it up if anythn

foggy hazel
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cheapest 1440p@144 is 245 or so

little osprey
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it would seem as though 1080p is all i can get

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well then my gpu is useless xd

versed rock
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Just lower your GPU down?

little osprey
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nvm its not

versed rock
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What GPU is it anyway?

little osprey
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the 3070

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for 500

versed rock
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Where TF are you getting a 3070 for MSRP?

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Are you a time traveler?

little osprey
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best buy, i alrdy ordered it

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went into store yesterday

versed rock
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Is it a FE card?

little osprey
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?

versed rock
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Is it the FE?

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Simple question

foggy hazel
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he is trying to ask, in a roundabout way, what model you ordered @little osprey

little osprey
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idk lol

versed rock
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🤦

little osprey
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i just told htem to order the 3070 nvdia gpu

versed rock
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SMH people these days not even knowing what they ordered

foggy hazel
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@versed rock and no, its not a simple question. Because its something that does not matter to most consumers.

versed rock
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You now literally have no idea if you are getting an actually decent 3070

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Like, I wouldn't touch a Ventus 3070 with a 10000 foot pole

little osprey
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thats gr8

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i know what its supposed to look like

versed rock
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Is it gold-ish with 2 fans?

little osprey
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in the mail, if its not that pic, then i go to them

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silverish

versed rock
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This?

foggy hazel
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@versed rock you could have just linked it from the start :)

versed rock
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I forgot the 3070 didn't get the gold color of the 3090

foggy hazel
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direct image files = preview here

versed rock
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Mobile

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I get forked on Mobile.

foggy hazel
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open new tab, copy link

little osprey
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lol

versed rock
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Does it look like the image Naed grabbed?

little osprey
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ye

versed rock
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Ok, so you have the FE (Founders Edition) card

little osprey
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cool

versed rock
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Make sure you have 2 8 Pin PCIE power connectors

jagged spire
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Is 120 gb ssd enough for a boot drive?

versed rock
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No.

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1TB for Boot + Often played games

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Or if you are strapped for cash, 500GB

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120GB SSDs are slow

jagged spire
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No I also am going to get A 2 tb hdd

versed rock
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The larger an SSD gets, the faster it will be (to a certain point)

jagged spire
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So only for the boot drive

versed rock
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Still, that's abysmally small for Booting

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And, you want often played games to be on your SSD also

jagged spire
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Ok would 240 be better

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Ok

versed rock
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500GB minimum

jagged spire
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But I mean I’m still on a budget

versed rock
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You can still get a quality 500GB SSD for cheap

little osprey
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question

versed rock
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And remember, Windows will grow in size over time from Updates

little osprey
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what do u guys use for ur monitors

foggy hazel
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@jagged spire general rule of thumb, 120 = doable, but a potential pain. 250 = workable. and more flexible. 512 = sweetspot for budget at the moment. 1000 = actually nice, even without a hdd

little osprey
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and suggest for the gpu im planning to get

versed rock
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For a 3070, I recommend 1440p144hz

foggy hazel
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@versed rock it also shrinks over time :)

versed rock
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The 3070 is basically a 2080ti

little osprey
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kk let me see what monitors we got

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didnt 3070 surpass 2080 performance

versed rock
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sigh

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Did you not read what I said literally less than a minute ago.

little osprey
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no i wasnt reading the chat

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dont need ur rudeness dude

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if u want to keep talkn like this i dont want u answering my questions

vital oracle
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is there anything i can do to this to lower the price to roughly $700 without affecting performance too much?

versed rock
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Bruh

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H510 case? 🤮

little osprey
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@vital oracle id do my case instead

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it has all 6 fans

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and cost is 78

versed rock
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MX330-G Air

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Cheaper, comes with 3 fans, and is actually good thermally

little osprey
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rgb fans

versed rock
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Broski, 6 fans =/= better than 3 fans

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It's about how the fans are positioned and if the case is well vented.

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You can cram 6 fans in a H510 and it will still have terrible thermals

little osprey
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it comes with anti dust protection

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read up what the case is before u flame it

foggy hazel
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@vital oracle i would recommend that you cut the extra fans. and get a better case. While getting a better ssd and better mainboard

jagged spire
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Can someone give me a link for a cheap 1 th ssd

foggy hazel
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@jagged spire in which format?

stoic island
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P1 at ~95$ for cheapest decent m.2 NVMe

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Mp34 at ~107$ for cheapest good m.2 NVMe drive

jagged spire
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Any format

foggy hazel
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see above then

jagged spire
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Is it possible to get an ssd that is 1 tb but70-80

versed rock
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You haven't even said what the case is @little osprey

little osprey
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in my build i referenced it

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and u went on to attack the fact i said 6 fans

versed rock
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I haven't seen your build mate

little osprey
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without even reading 1 detail

stoic island
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It's the musetek thing

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Whatever it's called

little osprey
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the build ive been sending here many times

versed rock
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Terrible thermally

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Glass front bad

foggy hazel
versed rock
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It's gonna be a furnace inside that

stoic island
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Oh yes that's a glass front panel lmao

little osprey
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how so

stoic island
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Thought it was mesh

versed rock
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No air is going to get inside with that glass panel in the front

little osprey
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it comes in from front and top

versed rock
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It can't come in the front

stoic island
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@little osprey fans can't get air if they're sucking on a solid panel.

And air doesn't like being sucked in through a 90 degree angle

little osprey
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the class isnt locking the thing air tight

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glass*

versed rock
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It essentially is not going to let any air in.

little osprey
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there is space

stoic island
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There's a reason why H510's front performs so badly even with side vents

versed rock
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There's not a lot of space.

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Probably less than half an inch

stoic island
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@little osprey just because there is space doesn't mean the fans can pull a good amount of air through it

little osprey
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hmmm

versed rock
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I would swap that case for a P400A Digital

stoic island
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Skiptrace and the P400a smh

versed rock
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Same price, vastly better thermals

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He wants RGB fans too

little osprey
versed rock
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Oh

little osprey
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i want Argb fans

versed rock
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That's worse than I thought

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Those fans are slammed against the glass

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Those side vents are WORSE than the H510

stoic island
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Lmao

little osprey
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hmmm

pearl blade
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Lol

little osprey
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so what case

versed rock
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Phanteks P400A Digital

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Buy it.

little osprey
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let me see

versed rock
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Done, end of story

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TD500 Mesh looks weird Af

stoic island
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I don't like P400a for not supporting good air coolers

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At least P500a

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:p

karmic bobcat
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TD500 looks nice smh

little osprey
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this?

versed rock
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It supports plenty good air coolers

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Yes

stoic island
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@versed rock u12s

versed rock
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You are just an air cooler snob

stoic island
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U12a

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Drp4

versed rock
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Noctua doesn't make all the best coolers

stoic island
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D15

little osprey
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ye im not into water cooling

stoic island
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Smh

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@little osprey then get a td500 mesh

versed rock
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Scythe Mugen 5 Rev b

stoic island
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Top 360mm rad support

versed rock
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Done

karmic bobcat
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TD500 gang

versed rock
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End of story.

jagged spire
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?is this good

little osprey
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theres a lot of names....

stoic island
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@jagged spire no

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Dramless

versed rock
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P400A + Scythe Mugen 5

little osprey
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so p400a or what

pearl blade
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TD500 is nice

little osprey
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i am gettn amd that ahs its own cpu cooler

stoic island
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Td500+anything

versed rock
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Has its own meh cooler

jagged spire
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Can someone send me a good 1 tb ssd

stoic island
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On mobile

little osprey
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ye i dont need another cooler, im fine with what amd will give with it

versed rock
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Slap a Mugen 5 Rev B on your CPU (unless it's a 3950X or something super beefy)

stoic island
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@jagged spire go find Crucial P1, ~95$

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Slap a gammaxx 400 on or a U12a imo

little osprey
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uhm...

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they r all tempered glass

stoic island
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Tempered glass side panel lmao

karmic bobcat
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That’s the side panel

little osprey
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wasnt this same as mine originally..

stoic island
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@little osprey we're concerned about glass front panel

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We don't care about glass side panel

little osprey
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ahh

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ok

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so which one do i pick

karmic bobcat
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Get the mesh

little osprey
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i am going to use the amd wraith cpu cooler

karmic bobcat
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Color choice is up too you

little osprey
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mesh w/ controller?

stoic island
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P400a/P500a/TD500 mesh, your choice out of the 3

versed rock
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Yes

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P400A comes with ARGB fans

little leaf
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220t

little osprey
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kk

arctic jungle
versed rock
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And it's own little controller for the case

little osprey
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idk which is best

arctic jungle
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glass side panel for life

little osprey
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dont they all have different dimensions

stoic island
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So does td500 mesh lol

versed rock
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P400A is a case blessed by PC Jesus himself

stoic island
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So is TD500 mesh

versed rock
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It was the 2019 Case Of The Year

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The TD500 has no such award

arctic jungle
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if u have a case over 80$ but u don't have tempered glass or solid side panel...

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ur sad

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and bad

stoic island
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Tech Jesus didn't review td500 mesh by end of 2019

languid nimbus
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lmao

little leaf
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220t

arctic jungle
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and make me mad

little osprey
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with p400a wouldnt i need to get fans?

stoic island
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Tech Jesus said it was as good as p400a

versed rock
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No

arctic jungle
versed rock
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You would not need fans

karmic bobcat
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Fight fight fight

languid nimbus
# little leaf 220t

biggest problem I’ve had with 220t so far is not much gpu clearance/psu clearance

arctic jungle
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except 220t is corsair Distraught

languid nimbus
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but in this case that doesn’t matter really

versed rock
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The 3 120mm front fans is the ideal fan config

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No exhaust needed

arctic jungle
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wa

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well

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true but like

pearl blade
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Honestly just watch gamer nexus review for buying case, they know a lot

arctic jungle
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only if it's mesh

versed rock
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I'm talking P400A specifically

arctic jungle
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yeah

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although decking a case out with rgb fans isn't the worst thing you can do for perforamnce

stoic island
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@pearl blade dats why we people who've watched Tech Jesus' videos reccomend the cases >:D

pearl blade
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Lol^ guess I’m late

stoic island
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Tech Jesus good source

little osprey
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for td500 do i need top fans?

stoic island
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No

little osprey
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doesnt look like u can install em anywhere

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is this good?

stoic island
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Use it stock

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Wdym

foggy hazel
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@little osprey we have been over this before :)

little osprey
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what about the p400a

little osprey
stoic island
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@little osprey there's 3x120mm top mounts, but I'd rather not get extra fans.

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On td500 mesh

little osprey
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@stoic island the mounts are on front panel

stoic island
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On p400a it's 2x140 or 2x120 I think

foggy hazel
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the answer is the same as it was earlier @little osprey

little osprey
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Like cant I ask stuff now? how can u be this annoying? @foggy hazel

stoic island
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@little osprey there's 3x120 mounts on the front AND the top

little osprey
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I dont even know the answer

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...

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just say if its good or not

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thats it

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.

violet harness
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Naed isn’t annoying

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He’s wise

foggy hazel
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@little osprey depends on the price

little osprey
violet harness
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And knows a lot of stuff

versed rock
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If anything, I'm the "annoying guy"

stoic island
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Yes

little osprey
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but its good card tho?

stoic island
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Look at the top

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See those holes?

little osprey
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i dont see fans ont he top

violet harness
little osprey
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i see holes where id need to buy fans

foggy hazel
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@little osprey as i said, depends on the price.

versed rock
#

Also, that TG panel on the TD500 looks like it would craxk

little osprey
#

300€

stoic island
#

There's no fans, but there are mounts

violet harness
#

It depends on the price my guy

versed rock
#

You don't need to add more fans.

stoic island
#

@little osprey no need for more

little osprey
#

oh okay

versed rock
#

The 3 120mm front fans are ideal already

little osprey
#

so the 3 inf ront are just fine

violet harness
stoic island
#

Eh, the looks are subjective

foggy hazel
#

its a solid card for that price, if you can get it for that

versed rock
#

Row, no.

little osprey
#

im just tryn to understand the airflow

stoic island
#

I personally like the laser etched design

little osprey
#

if all we got is an air pull from front

versed rock
#

These Mesh front cases don't need exhaust

foggy hazel
#

sorry @versed rock

little osprey
#

how does it get out

versed rock
#

Passive

#

It just gets pushed out by more cold air

foggy hazel
#

its a solid card for that price, if you can get it for that
@little osprey

little osprey
#

but what if my room is warm

#

Ty for the help 🙂 @foggy hazel

#

it wont be grabbin cold air

foggy hazel
#

you are welcome.

versed rock
#

It will be grabbing colder air than what the CPU temp is

little osprey
#

ahh

stoic island
#

@little osprey newton's first law of motion

little osprey
#

i like td500 more cuz the color black on a case i hate

stoic island
#

Air that starts flowing doesn't stop flowing

little osprey
#

p400a 😛

stoic island
#

It'll go through the case

little leaf
#

@foggy hazel turns out the ssd died

little osprey
#

: P

#

td500 ill go with

stoic island
#

It doesn't just go in the case and sit there

versed rock
#

Wat, why do you hate contrast?

little osprey
#

idk all my computers are dark, i like em to be lighter

stoic island
#

@versed rock personally I like solid color much better than contrast for cases

versed rock
#

Your eyes are biologically drawn to contrasting things

#

The dichotomy of the white and black of the P400A is so good though.

stoic island
#

I don't like it

#

Just like how you don't like the td500 mesh's side panel

versed rock
#

And it makes it so that RGB elements don't get overwhelming

#

I just think the TD500 panel is gonna snap at those lines.

foggy hazel
#

@little leaf :(

little osprey
#

im going td500

versed rock
#

It Looks cool, but it also looks like it will snap.

little osprey
stoic island
#

@little osprey make sure to get td500 mesh

#

@versed rock I need to check but I'm pretty sure it's not like cut into the panel

little osprey
#

ye i think thats what i got @stoic island

stoic island
#

Focus on Mesh

#

Because there's a version without mesh

little osprey
#

idk what the difference is on mesh vs without

versed rock
#

Front panel

stoic island
#

Good thermals vs furnace

little osprey
#

ahh

#

so q, there was a front panel on my phantom case

#

gladd fornt panel for air to come froms ides

#

sides*

#

but with this, we have a screen door in front

#

what is the big diff?

stoic island
#

This, we have a mesh panel that barely has resistance for the air to pass through

little osprey
#

does it rlly make it that much different in terms of air flow?

little leaf
#

Yes

jagged spire
#

Is crucial p2 better than p1

stoic island
#

@little osprey to put simply, look at H510

little osprey
#

ok

stoic island
#

There's a reason why we don't like H510

#

That front panel, even with side vents

foggy hazel
#

@jagged spire no

stoic island
#

Doesn't let enough air through

#

@jagged spire personally I'd say the opposite actually, I prefer dram over HMB

jagged spire
#

Ok thank you

little osprey
#

ahh

#

btw are these fans on td rgb?

stoic island
#

Argb

little osprey
#

nice

stoic island
#

Comes with a controller

little osprey
#

giggity

#

jk lol

stoic island
#

Physical rgb control

arctic jungle
#

dram > hmb > dramless > hdd

stoic island
#

@arctic jungle hdd > dramless >:D

arctic jungle
lyric thistle
#

I wouldn't want a dramless ssd

#

pretty much

#

at all

little osprey
#

OKAY

#

my finalized pos computer

lyric thistle
#

dram > hmb > hdd > sshd > dramless

little osprey
#

also should i get this 8tb hard drivr

versed rock
#

No

little osprey
#

ok

versed rock
#

NAS drives are SLOW

little osprey
#

im a video editor, gamer, streamer

versed rock
#

Just get some normal 4TB drives

little osprey
#

oh i didnt even catch it was NAS

#

i have a 2tb

versed rock
#

It literally says Ironwolf NAS

little osprey
#

seagate barracuda

#

ye my eyes skipped over nas

#

but uhm any recommendations on hard drive, maybe theres a better one for a better price?

#

and is my power supply all good

versed rock
#

Seagate Barracuda 4TB

little osprey
#

rpms are lower on those

lyric thistle
#

do SSHDs have DRAM?

little osprey
#

vs mine at 2tb at 7200 rpm

#

pretty darn pricey tho cuz mines 54 bucks

arctic jungle
#

ofc barracuda

versed rock
#

Eh, HDD RPM isn't 100% crucial

little osprey
#

ye

arctic jungle
#

pcpp popularized that well

little osprey
#

i guess ill just get 2x 2tb ones

#

would be cheaper

#

by like 30 bucks

#

basically double the one i have listed alrdy

arctic jungle
#

although all tasks are long using hard drives...

little osprey
#

^^

#

i would do an ssd

#

nvme

arctic jungle
#

nao

#

no

#

noO

little osprey
#

as the thing but read and write i dont think id do that a lot

arctic jungle
#

if u need lots of storage on budget get hdd

little osprey
#

for it to be worth the price

stoic island
#

Ssd price

arctic jungle
#

get nvme for boot and general storage

little osprey
#

nvme's are expensive af

arctic jungle
#

not rlly

stoic island
#

A single 1tb MP34 is the price of 2x2tb barracuda

arctic jungle
#

only in comparison to hdds

little osprey
#

so i am using for software

#

the OS will be my nvme

#

not much esle

#

else*

#

think my build is solid, what u guys think? still have to figure out what to do with monitor

#

power supply, check?

stoic island
#

@little osprey I'd change monitor to G241

#

Ips is nice

versed rock
#

600w for a 3070?

little osprey
#

ok il lcheck it out

versed rock
#

I'd get at least 650w

stoic island
#

Meh

#

600w is good imo

little osprey
#

eh 650 not rlly needed

stoic island
#

Just need a good unit

versed rock
#

RTX 30 cards are spikey

little osprey
#

the power consumption according to my calc is 490

stoic island
#

Yes

#

But PL

versed rock
#

You might trip OCP

stoic island
#

FE PL is like 220w

little osprey
#

@stoic island explain why G241

stoic island
#

@versed rock dats why you want a good unit

#

@little osprey IPS panel

little osprey
#

i also want the screen with the good color

stoic island
#

Yes

versed rock
#

Yeah, but it can easily go beyond that PL

stoic island
#

Ips has better colors than VA

little osprey
#

which is ips

stoic island
#

G241 is IPS

little osprey
stoic island
#

G24c4 is va

little osprey
#

sorry forgot some terms since july

#

so which one

stoic island
#

Top, 144hz.

versed rock
#

I wish the Odyssey G series monitors were IPS...

little osprey
#

wait 144hz lol

#

i thought they were same xd

#

also why not the optix one i have, in comparison (if it were to dipt o 180 again)

versed rock
#

Mr1111 is there anything similar to say, the Odyssey G7 that is IPS?

stoic island
#

There's no ips 1440p240hz panels afaik

#

It's all va/tn

versed rock
#

Even at 144hz?

#

Idk about 240hz

#

Whoops, IDC

#

I don't care about 240hz

#

144hz with that curve and possible HDR at 1440p is my jam

#

Or some form of curve

little osprey
#

mr111 do u think getting 3070 gtx gpu is a overkill for my monitor or would it be good in terms of me streaming

#

just tryn to figure out if gpus help in streaming

stoic island
#

@versed rock M27q or the pixio prime one, forgot name

little osprey
#

or if its just pure gaming

stoic island
#

Meh

#

3070 overkill for 1080p144hz

#

Maybe try and wait for 3060ti

little osprey
#

why wait for that?

foggy hazel
#

you are forgetting what you are pushing @stoic island

stoic island
#

Hm?

little osprey
#

is it cheaper?

#

whens the 3060ti

foggy hazel
#

RT etc etc

little osprey
#

cuz ive waited for 8 months alrdy bro

#

i rlly dont want to keep waiting anymore xd

versed rock
#

Blegh, there's no Rtings review for the M27Q

foggy hazel
#

always the option of rendering higher and scaling down too @stoic island

#

@little osprey re: 3060ti : we dont know.

jagged ember
#

Only if you have Nvidia tho

#

Radeon currently can't superscale from what I know

stoic island
#

Well

#

I don't consider downscaling

#

Because it's just dumb imo

jagged ember
#

I wouldn't downscale too

foggy hazel
#

its not downscaling

#

its super scaling

#

as you might know it

stoic island
#

Wrong way around

jagged ember
#

Superscaling down a resolution, right?

foggy hazel
#

rendering at higher res, scaling down

versed rock
#

Ouch, the M27Q is HDAren't

jagged ember
#

Oh

stoic island
#

Hm wait

jagged ember
#

Oohhh

blazing aurora
stoic island
#

I thought downscaling was rendering higher and scaling down

versed rock
#

HDR400 is basically not even HDR

jagged ember
#

Lol skip that's all I got man

#

Don't do me dirty like this

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora I'd swap some stuff around if possible

versed rock
#

I'll probably consider it over the PX7P

#

It's a tad cheaper

stoic island
#

Mainly hdd psu and case

foggy hazel
#

also @jagged ember Virtual Super Resolution is what amd calls their version of it

little osprey
#

ok so what are the best gpus out there rn, under 450

#

that do not surpass gtx 3070

#

or are very close to it

stoic island
#

Tbh none

little osprey
#

: p

stoic island
#

3060ti/amd low end offering not out yet

foggy hazel
little osprey
#

isnt having amd cpu and gpu together bad?

stoic island
#

What

#

Since when

#

It's actually good now

#

SAM

jagged ember
#

Ty naed

little osprey
#

someone said having its radeon with its cpu is bad

stoic island
#

. . .

jagged ember
#

Lol who

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey someone was wrong then

little osprey
#

uhm one of the yellow named ppl here

blazing aurora
jagged ember
#

Did they not keep up with g each news?

little osprey
#

back in july

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora not rpm

#

The price

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey there is either some context missing on that, or they misspoke

stoic island
#

48$ for a 1tb drive, when you can get a barracuda 2tb at 55$

blazing aurora
#

ohhh ok

little osprey
#

let me get him in my dms

blazing aurora
#

what's wrong with the psu and case?

little osprey
#

ik his pic

#

he builds computers for people

stoic island
#

PSU is meh, I'd get a BR/BA tho, I think CV <650w had some issues, don't quite remember

little osprey
#

eh cant get it hes not in list there anymore

stoic island
#

Case wise I'd get a MX330-g air

blazing aurora
#

i've heard that the cv450 is pretty good for the price

little osprey
#

so what was the name of this gpu again?

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey just search in there

little osprey
#

from amd

stoic island
#

Low end offerings not out yet

little osprey
#

ye whats the name tho

stoic island
#

6800 is >500$

little osprey
#

so i can keep my eyes out

stoic island
#

Dunno

arctic jungle
#

3070 is an alrounder good gpu

stoic island
#

It should be like 6700, but we don't know

blazing aurora
#

@stoic island i'm not a big fan of the look of the mx330, what's wrong with the case i have?

arctic jungle
#

although rumors have it that the 3060 ti is on track for release this year...

little osprey
#

ye amd is talking at a credit suisse tomorrow

#

im guessing its ganna be announced tomorrow

#

some 24th annual credit suisse conference

foggy hazel
#

nah, that is just the finance call

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora I mean, 55$ for mesh front panel and 3 included fans instead of what looks to be a solid front panel and 2 included fans is a plus to me

#

Naed, when's Nvidia's finance call again?

foggy hazel
#

has been (nvidia's that is)

blazing aurora
#

Mr1111 the front has some mesh on the right side of the front panel

stoic island
#

Hm ok

little osprey
#

since when did amds gpu's become superior to nvidia tho...

#

like are we expecting their gpu to beat nvidia

stoic island
#

Again, @blazing aurora air doesn't like being pulled through tiny slits

foggy hazel
#

nothing interesting as such has come from the nvidia finance call thou @stoic island

stoic island
#

Sad

foggy hazel
#

aye

stoic island
#

Thought we could learn more about stock situation

blazing aurora
#

i wouldn't say it's tiny

foggy hazel
#

investors got answers they are okay with (it would seem at least)

#

or we would have heard a lot of yelling by now

blazing aurora
#

i think that if the airflow is good enough i'll take it because i like the design

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora point it, you should know how bad the airflow in a H510 is, and look at how relatively big that side vents is

blazing aurora
#

@stoic island ? that's not an h510 in my build

#

ohh i see what you mean

mortal void
#

any good budget monitor suggestions, preferably 27 - 32 inch. 144hz maybe with freesync?

little osprey
#

@mortal void price range

mortal void
#

so $400CAD or under

#

27" is fine too

weak field
#

cad

mortal void
weak field
#

🥞 🐮

blazing aurora
#

there isn't a moose emoji

mortal void
#

it be like that

blazing aurora
#

@stoic island late reply but the reviews of the case say the airflow is pretty good. the psu is much more important though. what do you recommend

severe axle
#

airflow is not good though

#

even nzxt made a meme about how their airflow was not good

stoic island
#

@blazing aurora hm?

mortal void
#

I may have found a really good budget monitor

#

$340

stoic island
#

1080p g27f eh

mortal void
#

yee

stoic island
#

27in is not what is reccomend for 1080p

arctic jungle
#

lmaoIOO

#

27" bad 1080p

#

also

stoic island
#

And I feel like G241 was 260cad or so

arctic jungle
#

340$ is not budget

#

150$ is budget

stoic island
#

@arctic jungle cad

mortal void
#

I take what I can get in CAD

#

Canada sucks for PC Parts

arctic jungle
#

340$ u can ez get 240hz 1080 or 1440p 144hz

stoic island
#

@mortal void but that still sucks even with cad

severe axle
#

thats about 250 usd

mortal void
arctic jungle
#

but if ur spending that much, why not

#

like-

mortal void
#

because 240hz over here is probably like $600+

mortal void
deep skiff
#

the ppi (pixel density) is worse than 24 in

mortal void
#

wouldn't a 27" Monitor have better PPI than a 27" TV though?

#

and I've never had a monitor before

#

so surely I wouldn't notice

stoic island
#

...

#

Why do you want to have a worse experience

#

on purpose

mortal void
#

I'm used to at least 27"

deep skiff
#

a 27in monitor and a 27in tv will look the same as long as they have the same resolution ppi wise

mortal void
#

interesting

foggy hazel
#

and panel @deep skiff

deep skiff
#

ya thats why i edited it to say ppi wise, colors and brightness and everything else can differ

foggy hazel
#

aye aye :)

mortal void
#

I just wanted to get something better than a 60hz TV that's relatively cheap

ruby ledge
#

Can someone recommend me a lga 1200 B460 microatx mobo under $110?

blazing aurora
#

@stoic island I said that I've seen some reviews that said that the airflow on the Montech case was good, and then asked what psu you would recommend for the build I linked

stoic island
#

dunno man, amazon/newegg reviews are 90% of the time just dumb, oh well. EVGA BA 500w maybe

fossil halo
#

yo

blazing aurora
#

wasn't amazon/newegg reviews that I was referencing

#

I'll check that psu out though, thanks.

fossil halo
#

is there a case that looks like the lianli o11 that is micro atx

#

and not mad expensive

#

theres that corsair one

#

but its kinda expensive

brave bison
#

o11 mini

#

not sure what it costs though

fossil halo
#

its not out yet

#

thats the thing

#

comes out in december and i need a case before that

topaz coyote
#

anyone fancy a challenge

stoic island
#

What will it be?

topaz coyote
#

lemme pm

mortal void
wanton cliff
topaz coyote
#

building sub 10l gaming/cs pc

#

for 1800

#

best bang for buck wins

fossil halo
#

some body pls

#

is this rosewill cullinan thing worth it

chrome flare
#

no

#

if you're blocking your fans with a glass panel it's already a terrible case

topaz coyote
#

20L

cursive magnet
#

100% new build is finally up and running!!! Thanks to everybody that helped!! @stoic island @foggy hazel

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gleaming quartz
#

looks nice👍

foggy hazel
#

well done @cursive magnet

chrome flare
#

can anyone recommend any x570 boards in the $150 range?

gleaming quartz
#

hmm

visual tundra
#

Can someone give me a good case with airflow and a good motherboard for 200$ all together

gleaming quartz
#

corsair cases work the best for me imo

#

nxt cases are eh

cursive magnet
#

@chrome flare , that price will rough with sacrificing specs.

fossil halo
#

theres the corsair 280x but its expensive

whole harbor
#

@fossil halo

#

what u looking for?

fossil halo
#

a case

whole harbor
#

send me ur pcpp

fossil halo
#

that looks like the lianli 011 but is micro atx

whole harbor
#

nvm

fossil halo
#

no i am only looking for a case

#

ik i sound like the biggest normie with the o11 but it genuinely looks good

cursive magnet
whole harbor
#

Also u aware that matx can be used in atx cases!

fossil halo
#

i know that

#

i dont want that tho

#

and the o11 is too expensive

#

basically something with that corsair 280x look

#

but not as sell ur organs thicc price

olive kraken
#

friend is trying to buy a new pc since his died. Does this look okay for 1.5k build. Mainly gaming and streaming

wanton cliff
#

I would go at least 750w on the power supply

#

otherwise nice build @olive kraken

olive kraken
#

bet

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

idk about the case but otherwise everything else should be fine, as long as you are aware of the fact that you can buy more, faster storage down the line

little osprey
#

Isn't that SSD good tho? @wanton cliff

#

The case has good airflow from what i've seen and heard.

wanton cliff
#

its great for price but as far as speed goes im pretty sure its considered slow

little osprey
#

fr?

small osprey
#

Its pretty fast wdym

wanton cliff
#

I was about to type dont quote me

little osprey
#

which isn't splow

#

slow

#

I never heard about a MP34 considered slow.

small osprey
#

iirc its 2400/2000?

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

didnt know

small osprey
#

Idk

wanton cliff
#

I have a 970 pro, its all relative

little osprey
#

lol

brazen slate
#

Hm.

wanton cliff
#

senko san

brazen slate
#

Me.

wanton cliff
#

I need to watch that show

brazen slate
#

Yes

wanton cliff
#

crunchyroll?

brazen slate
#

Would recommend manga tho

#

I believe that has much more

wanton cliff
#

anyways, SSDs

brazen slate
#

SSD

wanton cliff
#

not here to talk about anime

brazen slate
#

Yes

#

Only need 1TB 😎

#

Just a single drive.

wanton cliff
#

unless you have a large steam library and slow internet

vital oracle
#

can someone build me a pc between $600 and $700? 16 gigs of ram minimum

wanton cliff
#

16 gigs is plenty

#

one sec

vital oracle
#

the most intensive games i will use it for are war thunder and fortnite

little osprey
#

those both can run off of like 4GB lol

brazen slate
#

lol 4GB gross

little osprey
#

yeah still 16gb

chrome flare
#

@cursive magnet $150

#

my $200 mobo died, im not going to spend much on another one

wanton cliff
still bay
#

plus a 3080 or whatever i can get my hands on

wanton cliff
#

yeah

still bay
#

also cablemod cables and a commander pro fan hub

vital oracle
#

are you sure about that graphics card

wanton cliff
#

get the Zen3 processors when you can instead of Zen2

vital oracle
#

i heard radeon isnt the best

still bay
wanton cliff
#

Radeon is fine

brazen slate
#

Yeah, you could instead get a 5900X tbf

#

But that's like 550$ and 3900X is 450$

#

That's an XT

#

nvm lole

still bay
#

who me?

little osprey
#

Will a i7-10700F bottle neck a 1660ti?

brazen slate
#

Yeah

little osprey
#

lmao

#

look

still bay
#

ik but idk if i can get my hands on a 5000 gen ryzen

brazen slate
#

Ah, fair enough

little osprey
#

lol

brazen slate
#

Goddamn

still bay
#

yes its a bottleneck

#

theres differente levels of bottleneck.

olive kraken
#

lmao

little osprey
#

no its not....

still bay
#

such as a 50$ cpu with a 3090

little osprey
#

a 10700k with a 1660 ti?

#

lmao

#

there is no bottleneck there

#

at all

still bay
#

literally every single thing is a bottleneck

brazen slate
#

Eh, not really

still bay
#

even if its like 0.00001%

#

yeah

brazen slate
#

Sure, but it isn't considered one

still bay
#

yeah but like my 2600 and 1070ti is a bottleneck

olive kraken
#

Imagine getting a pc over 1k for FN

#

sadness

brazen slate
#

Plus, I don't think that would really be a bottleneck in reality

little osprey
olive kraken
#

u can run fn with apu