#building-and-recc-chat
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Thereโs like no reason for the 3600 to be so expensive rn
Yeah, so annoying.
Iโm talking when the 3070 was announced it was 170 and then it immediately bumped up
Maybe 180
Something like that
I saw it for 200 on Newegg for a little while 2 days ago or so and it went right back up 2 hrs later.
Itโs cuz so many people are buying em rn cuz of the gpu announcements
the days when rtx 3080s and 3070s will actually be in stock are beyond our reach
think about how there will be a day when the 3090 will be like a gt 710
will there be a huge stock of 3080s and 3070s before christmas some time?
i dont think so
business wise it would be smart
they will be avalible in jan 2021 if i am correct
damn
very truw
but it could be hard for them to pump out a stock
because of its high performance
and i would think due to the prices they wont be getting much out of it
so ir makes it more harder to collect the materials
and manufacture it

i wouldnt mind paying $100 extra for an ebay 3070 so i can play cyberpunk on release
question: do you really need 32gb of memory for streaming/premiere?
no
very debatable question apparently
oh i was looking at american prices.. its like $200-$300 extra for scalpers
ok but like would you really suffer if you didnt have 32gb
would i iss the question
do i...
obs recording at 1080p
do i....
well you know what i mean
IS IT NECCESARY
to HAVE
32 GIGABYTES OF RANDOM ACCESSS mEMoreEY
i would like to buy a reyboard from you
eh
scalper 3070s are not including my ontario 13% tax ๐ฎ
sure
nice
If you are taking up a lot of ram when you stream then no, 32gb us nice for streamers.
32GB is nice to have
I don't know how much ram he is utilizing when he streams so if he uses a lot it may be a good idea to upgrade.
then if i were to use 16gb instead of 32 then what are good models for good prices, rgb not needed nor preferred
you only really gain a lot of improvement with like even an 80GB ssd
but having a 1tb SSD is very nice to have
how do you know that if youre on a chromebook
I have my own laptop, that is just a joke.
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882 this one is pretty good
thats an exception
How much do u wanna spend on ram? Any particular budget?
Ok
Lemme see.
im getting a pc and i might be streaming, not totally sure yet but is 16 gb fine
honestly for 75$, spend 10$ more and get 32GB
I have a lot of background tasks while gaming, like stream, music, chrome tabs, sometimes open projects
or 16gb with 3600mhz
and it eats around 15GB
OOF
wowowow
i have 32GB so im chilling
with RAM, 3200 and 3600 isnt a big deal, bc 32 is double of 16, so 32 of 3200 is more worth it to save money
im gonna get a ryzen 5900x
Get this unless you want 32 GB.
so i wanted 3600mhz for optimal performance
i think i can maybe fit in one more stick of 8gb
there are plenty of high-tier streamers that run perfectly ok with one pc and their memory is 3200mhz sometimes 3000 or 2933
that will still work right
cause most games arent 10gb
also doesn't zen 3 have better gaming performance with 4 sticks of ram vs 2?
Imagine having 3 ram sticks.
that doesnt make any sense
to have 4 sticks of ram that makes zero sense
latency and whatnot
meh ill try and get something a bit worse
thats a hoax thats my gues
yeh i was gonna get this kit
It is pretty good.
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@little osprey to answer your question, no 32 is unnecessary for streaming. Youโll be just fine with 16
not a hoax, theres a gamers nexus video about it with benchmarks
Yeah, I would go 3600 before 32gb if I could.
yeh thats what im doing
3600mhz cl18 > 3200mhz cl16 on amd chips
My ram is 16gb at 2400mhz and I stream occasionally. My streams turn out just fine.
nice 2nd place on my kahoot
so i only need 16gb of ram
ok nice
but if i can it would be a good upgrade to 32gb right

good way to show you could pay for it, no need to do it tho
Lol
Agreed
Not really necessary most of the time anyways
ok thank you
unless you're not gaming and a compiler of sorts, no need for the memory

i am now going to eat a kitkat
Don't choke.
make sure it's cookies n cream
@warm crystal Yeah I mean anything above 16 is over doing it honestly unless you're running a massive server or something
It isn't really needed in most cases but a nice to have.
I mean, obviously there are plenty of purposes for higher than 16gb ram, I'm just talking gaming here.
Yeah, no need to get more than 16GB unless you know the game will suck in more than 16GB for whatever reason it might be lol
what game would suck over 16gb?
jeez
the only game I could think of without mods would be tarkov
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Is this good?
I mean, minecraft is probably the one game that has so many using mods
you should see some mc modpacks lmao
helo
I don't have minecraft so I wouldn't know :(
i have mcpe
I have minecraft but I don't know how to mod so I wouldn't know
i use a copntroller
but yeah most games run perfectly fine with 16gbs without any issues
dont know how to mod java?
it's very easy
I don't think there is a game that'd have ram issues with 16gb ,atleast stock
Wrong, you need the RTX 5090 and Intel 14nm 25900K with 64GB to run anything nowadays
ikr
that's minimum req for minesweeper
^
if it ain't gonna run minesweeper, what kinda PC is it anyways? Built with dust?
I love how you said the 25th gen intel would still be 14nm
:)
realistic
still dont beat amd ryzen 5950x
Probably
ik
because it'll cause lower cpu prices in general
how do u guys think 11th gen will be
14nm
They are gonna have to go with 10nm even, maybe even 10nm with a different CPU design
11th gen is 14nm so ye lol
12th gen iirc will get us 10nm
amd is pumping out cpus like mad
not the 3300x though
lol yeah
imo i dont think they should work on radeon
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just cpus
I feel like they purposely stopped making em because they were a good deal
cause their so good at that
I was recommending it today, and someone reminded me that 3300X isn't made anymore
God, this newegg site is doing me bs
wait it's not made anymore?
"Verifying if you human"
I thought it just had stock issues
Yeah probably just really horrible stock issues
i mean everything has stock issuses
But I figured it might as well be a dead non manufactured CPU at this point
yeah but the 3300x isn't new
so it makes sense for u to think that
yeah that's fair
been dead for awhile
haven't seen one in stock for months
it was gonna be the cpu I got but now I have to spend extra on the 3600
I haven't even heard anyone utter the word "3300X" in like forever
And it just kinda came up out of nowhere when I was thinking of good recommendations for someone
F to a good CPU ๐
big F
never got to buy it like I was gonna :(
buying used gives me a weird feeling
like it's not gonna run as good as it will new
Eh, reselling ig would be fine if it wasn't used under long stressing lmao
the i3-8300 in my dad's pc is bottlenecking his gpu
oof
i3-8300 with some high end?
what gpu
then an i5 would be better right?
Yeah
my dad isn't planning to upgrade cpu
like it wouldnt be bottlenecked
Ye, I feel like I can finally get a 1440p 144hz since the G27Q came out
although the 1070 ti isn't terrible for 1440p
M27F as well, but that's more on the expensive side I think as well, cause M27Q is more expensive than G for like 80$ more
i have never played any game more than 60 hz
ik
Yeah, 60Hz to 144hz is more than 1/2 frame time reduced
and if we get 240 in the future, my god
and/or 360 if anyone here is rich
Once I can get 1500$
yeh
Eh, I think it is depending on games
true
csgo pro player maybe
if i got a ps5 i would get a 4k 144 or 120 hz monitor
Shroud for example said that 240 to 360 was like, you probably may not see it, but you could feel it or somethin
hopefully 144hz will stop me from going 2-12 in csgo
linus tech tips did a video on that monitor
๐
they had a bunch of people pick the 360hz one next to a bunch of 240hz ones, I think only one of them guessed right
LTT does anything with new improvements in monitors or really good monitors like some cheapo monitor that's really good for specs
I'm just waiting for Hardware Unboxed to release a video on G27Q and M27Q
he usually just says $500 monitor is cheap
Lmao
then there is me
trying to find a 240hz monitor for 300 dollars
yeh
Most of the good monitors that probably is good goes 400-450$ new
I hear aoc monitors have a lot of ghosting issues
atleast the ones I was looking at
I'm going with the MSI esports one or whatever
$300? For a 240 hz monitor? You can barely get a 144hz monitor for that price
depends on prices really
Nah, 1080p 144hz monitors are like 150$ lol
all my Christmas presents are gonna be pc parts
but it won't be enough to complete my build, so I won't be able to use them right away
At the very lowest
And you should check out G27Q for 250$ 1440p 144hz IPS monitor
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27" is good for 1440p, yeah
yeh but its cheap lol
@brazen slate you're close to regular+ ๐
I'm pretty sure
it's level based
at like level 10
stupid american
anyone here lives in india
๐
I live in AZ
lol canadian prices on PC
it's the same price
for indians
it's literally just currency difference
Millions
:(
Them indian be rich with millions
lol
Just switch the in for com
its around 200usd
Idk why going on google shop list gives me india prices lmfao
Then get redirected to us website
for the 165hz
Just doesn't want to give me USD pricing
then convert
Or replace the .in with .com
Oh
sog
Lol
Log
the frick
amazon is like "ahaah"
thisis liek 600 dollars
don't buy monitors off amazon
i used to live in us
unless you get a good deal
so i know
Damn I was looking at the price like 2 mil lmao
where do u recomend @glacial umbra
Don't like the dumb americans??
for monitors
come to india
Nah
Nah
get a 165hz for 200usd
nah
I'll happily order one with no tarrif or additional tax
1070 ti for 150 USD
i hate trying to buy a pc in india everything is overpriced and if u want to ship it taxes are so much
like dude
best deal I've gotten in existence ๐
taxes are annoying
newegg charging shipping for Canada
tell me about it
that's just mean
i might not get my pc cause of it
Millions
not shipping
taxes?
shipping is 400usd per peice
Damn
yiker
i get it delivered my cousins house in the usa
taxes might be around 500 to 1000
better than getting it shipped :(
true
depends what price you're getting for em
I'd say 1070 but the 580 is really close
if you search hard enough, you might be able to find a 1070 ti for similar pricing
but I don't know if I just got lucky or not
Thoughts on this RAM?
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could anyone give me insight on this budget build? might swap the 1650super with a 1660 super. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Syndrome%40/saved/#view=BfyhkL
Iโd spend a little more on g.skill maybe. Idk yet.
I donโt like that power supply
And your mobo is matx, so you may want to consider an atx mobo for your atx case.
Anyone have any 1000 budget builds put together on pc part picker or something?
ik
when was the last time someone saw a 3300x in stock?
a lifetime ago
@torpid violet This one isnโt too far off. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fz4jnL
canada computers took it off their website entirely
can i find a 2080 ti for 450$?
probably on ebay
could prolly get better ram for the price but other than that looks good
the closest im seeing is like $800 for a zotac one
3070 is 500 i believ
yeah 500$ from nvidia but the avg market price
ah
im not sure from resellers
or you mean from third parties?
like asus and aorus etc
yup
yeah that sounds about right
is the 2080 ti a good alt for a 3080 that i literally cannot find lol
ik performance specs but still
i think the 30 series go down in price after 2020 is over
lack of 3080 has completely halted my build
true, i just wont have a pc for a couple months lol
maybe
i also saw some 3070 for 600 ish or so
but maybe i could find a 2080 ti for 400 or so if i wait
the performance is small after all
i mean not too too bad
the 3070 is around 10% faster or so
very true, are you in the market ? i havent seen 2080 ti go for all that cheap yet
i mean on ebay
i live in eastern europe
fair. but yeah just keep your eye out. ik ebay started doing insurance?
salaries are incredibly low
so you can verify youre getting what you pay for
the titan isn't a bad card tho
300$ for 2080 super performance
2080 vanila?
nah ti
oh
idk
maybe they are reposting their offers for lower?
since the 30 series is out
could be? especially after the 6700 x drops im sure prices will drop
or after its accessible lol
true
bc no one can get AMD or nvidia rn so people are still selling 2080's for more than theyre worth
just bc scalpers got their hands on all of them and the markets dry
yeah dude people are killing the market rn
they think they struck gold bc they bought an f'*n gpu
just wait till 2021 april or s
so*
i mean if you can get a 3080 for 800$ go for it
i only saw one and it flashed before my eyes lol but i'll keep my eye out
same here
if i find a 2080 ti for a good price it's mine baby
oh i saw some on amazon for 1800 euro
yup
i had similar issues w/ my build (i.e. no gpu for sale)... for my build, i settled for e 2070 Super for now... waiting for the 3090 to become available (and not just on ebay)
you and me are in the same boat..except i dont have a goy hahaha
:))
do you mind me asking what the 2070 supers are going for..?
500$
all are around 500$
damn
yeah
from what i've seen
i just dont wanna get burned on the backend
but at least i finished my build
like get my hands on a 3080 (or ti) and then have to resell the 2070 for like $200
very true
turned out for what i'm doing at the moment (aws deepracer local training) it's more than enough
the shipment omg
$10,000 easy
:))
jk but still not worth
go donate it to a kid's hospital help them build a gaming pc for the kids
i just hope they get the bot situation under control ... not sure how i can get an email from newegg that a gpu is available and within minutes, its out of stock already
you right, maybe i need some good karma
honestly tho especially when they fully get back in stock
good luck w/ the gpus.... i'm hoping things get back to normal after the holidays. g'night
gn laddy
@edgy walrus oi
oii
ahhh so youre a frame hunter
i can get 150 fps on my laptop on high settings cs go
from 2013
some lenovo
i forgot which model
i will still use it even after i get a pc
all good, i have a macbook pro just for ease of use and ecosystem for work/school
lol could you imagine playing with 4gb
back then it was a blessing
can you modify to add an SSD?
i did
yup
i remember the first time i got the ssd
a 120 gb one
now i have 480 from kingstone
thats sweet, how do you feel about the wd black ssd?
it took around 20 secs
versus like a 970 evo
idk
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one neighbor? of yours?
dude youre all good dont be sorry
but mac's are just popular in the us a little more i feel like
just for simplicity
americans are dumb lol
the neighbor broke something small on the laptop
can't remember what
but it wasn't important
he went to the apple store in my city
they charged him 500$ for he repair
yeah i mean its hard to fix it yourself when it comes to mac theyre so picky
jesus!
$500??
he refused
i would too
yeah apples a rip
but i mean its just nice to have it connected to my phone especially for work
well my sister was gonna upgrade her SSD and came to me after she went to apple who offered to do it for $400
not SSD i mean ram
yeah apple is way overrated
but it was an extra 8gb of ram..not $400
which a lot of their market is
but if you have a iq above room temperature yu can go to a local shop in your area and get it a uprgrade or repair for cheaper or free
alright my guy its getting late over here but it was good talking to you, ill have to show you my future build
maybe tomorrow of something
same
HAHAH
u too friend
apple overcharges but you can't deny that their unibody chassis is sleek
though their stores really offer the worst service
the cheese grader?
how much should i try spending on a 1660ti
if anyone can help me choose parts for a build please DM me, i have a budget of around 1000$
Can someone help me find cheap ram that compatible with Dell OptiPlex GX 620 it was given to me after I got out of hospital it really needs ram upgrade please dm me
will rtx 3070 still be good with AMD Ryzen 3 3100
what the hell is that name
is there a limit to name characters
answer myself "Usernames must be between 2 and 32 characters long"
Anyone on?
U might be able to save ME The Trip!!!
I got 6 Slots on The Midtower Case!!! 1-3. Is IT possible to use The 1070 & 2 3070 all together if THEY fit into The Case, too? Idk if The Motherboard would have Close Enuff Modules or Not!!!
I got Another, but IT only have 3 Slots!!!
Whatโs a good thermal paste?
i like how everyone talks about my namge but ignores the question
im gonna ask it again
bro y log name
nice try
not with that name it won't
Change your name then people will respond seriously smh
lol
it's ok @stoic island, @lyric thistle
leave it
some people do be like it doe
when the name is longer than the answerers' names plus their answers

reach level 3, that button should pop up
Ahhhh my eyes
Nope

pain
Lian Li LANCOOL II vs Meshify C vs Meshify 2
Lancool ii mesh
name fixed
@soft solstice td500 mesh
good to know
@soft solstice None of the Above. P400A Digital
@versed rock you sure?
Yes.
The P400A Digital is an amazing case.
Both Meshify cases need extra fans
And the Lancool 2 Mesh is a meh case.
I plan to trick out my case with rgb fans at some point so I need something for a nice rgb look
I'm sticking with a black color to hide any scratches as everything shows on white
The P400A Digital comes with 3 RGB fans...
any recommendations for other fans to buy that are rgb for extras?
You don't need extra fans.
The case is quite literally thermally perfect in the stock 3 intake 0 exhaust configuration
I see all the people with 6 fans in their cases showing off rgb
Yeah, and those people are dum
Because those extra fans do literally nothing.
And can even HINDER performance.
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best 450 dollar pc for playing older games and less demanding ones? (minecraft csgo etc)
I would go for a b360/z490 with a 10400f for basically the same price in the US
With future cpus from intel coming out to reply to ryzen you will have more future option(s)
10400f is only a good deal imo if you canโt get a 3300x as 3600 is typically 40$ more, so if youโre gaming 3600 isnโt worth getting
But if youโre doing more than gaming 10400 is a good deal
Sorry, I don't speak the pc language lol. What should I change?
The motherboard to a b360/z490 board on the 1200 chipset
And the cpu to a newer 10400f which is the same price usually for more performance
Whatโre you doing with this pc?
gaming and making/editing vids
@stiff gust which one of the b360/z490 should i use? And are they asus?
It doesnโt really matter. There are many brands of every motherboard on the same chipset.
Z490 is usually more expensive with more features
B360 is more barebones but nowadays most have a lot of features if you go looking for them
ok and the 10400f is a cpu from intel correct?
go to #general-chat
So what good are some good cases with 2 to 3 fans that is under 55 usd
And like 3 2.5 bays
Doubt youโll find one for less than 90$ with 3 fans
artic f12 fans or if u want rgb uphere
But with your desired 2-3 fans thatโs gonna be tuff
But there are good ones with 1 fan for under 50
Ok
You can get a good up here pack of 3 for like 10-15$
No fans included
Thereโs this Corsair case I got for $80 that has 3 fans
That's finr
yea
With 3 2.5 bays
my case came with 3 rgb fans and a non rgb one
Alright I use the mx330-g for my build
53-55$, comes with a fan. Tempered Glass window
@stiff gust so youre suggesting something like this? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Spookzondiscord/saved/8zCTnQ
Just make sure to break the brackets off BEFORE you try and mount the GPU
There are fractal cases/ cooler master cases under $50
Thatโs a great list
Will allow for 11 series future expand ability too
Bc of the 1200 chipset
The 10400f is like 30$ cheaper than 3600
With same gaming speed and same 6 cores
Ok thanks for the help @stiff gust
Trades blows in tasks too
Np @forest glen good luck, and make sure to post in #build-pics when youโre done
Ok it'll take awhile
@stiff gust do I go intel
I wouldnโt as the motherboards are more expensive for your budget
And the b450 is great value as you can upgrade to a 5000 chip with certain b450 boards
Yes
So make sure to get a b450 that allows for that
The one I picked can
Amd and intel CPUโs are practically neck to neck so the performance isnโt really any different
Perfect
Yeah it only matters if youโre trying to get nonexistent 5000 series chips imo
But like that guy said choose the cpu on which ever motherboard you choose
Or if youโre doing productivity amd has better value
I'm not for like 3yrs
Yeah 2600x is good too as you can get a cooler and oc it good to keep up
Is the 3600 an upgrade from the 3500u
Oh yes Iโd say
still yes
2600x is up to 50% faster
In effective spee
Speed
Mobile chips donโt come anywhere near
Yeah youโll do so much better with a dedicated gpu
^
ik
so i will make another pcpartpicker list
and tell me what to change if necessary
ok
now
it is good or no
and is it capable of 120fps in gtav and csgo
and cyberpunk 2077
forza horizon 1 -4
motorsport 4-7
and all xbox game pass games
help
anyone
You're barely scraping by recommended requirements for cyberpunk
cs go can run 120 fps on a potato
you can probably get 120 in csgo with that
the CPU is just fine for cyberpunk
the GPU is just bad
ok
what shoul i change it too
it needs to bee under 200 usd
...
A used 1070 ti might be the way to go there
no
if you're fine with used stuff
all new parts
well good luck
https://www.newegg.com/crucial-p1-500gb/p/N82E16820156200?Description=crucial p1&cm_re=crucial_p1-_-20-156-200-_-Product
I'd recommend 10 dollars more for this
i cant
thats a really bad idea for a 700$ build lol
i want it to last for years
used will too lol
and where i live used parts are not allowed
and where do you live?
i thought you guys were filthy rich or something
its a streotype
not real
ok?
say something in arab
and that means?
nope
cmon
i need 6 cores
why
i already have 4
Why
6
streaming
you're not streaming on that regardless
its 1650 super
ok
so rx 5500xt
8gb
not that either lol
even worse for streaming
I'd reccomend at least a 5600xt gpu, and a ryzen 5 3600
i steam on the 3500u no problem
but like 720 30
using obs
and whats your ingame fps
70
on what game
why the hell i can't find any ryzen 5 5600x rx 5600 xt
i can play assassins creed valhalla with an average of 60 fps on a rx 570๐
benchmarks*
i dont have them
i mean i have it on medium settings since the 570 is pretty crappy but it still plays well 
ok
i have a 2013 laptop that can run cs go on 150 fps highest settings
how.
unless you wanna game on 720p for every single game except csgo you're not streaming on a 1650
yes
i do that acctually
lol
so whats the point in upgrading
1280x720
eh
just spend the extra 200$ since you were already planning on buying cyberpunk lol
im on mobile
mmm k
good advice but no
that's pretty dumb of you
you are willing to buy a 60$ game but not upgrade to something that will actually run the game
ok
whatelse
so what i have now is enough
for 2077
i have a 1600x900acer monitor
i would imagine 2077 would run almost exactly like gta 5
ok
except a little more processor heavy
what processor do you have now?
Get a 2070 super