#building-and-recc-chat
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i heard amd wont have as bad stock issues like nvidia did
depending on what rumour site you visit, you can hear everything
@granite barn are u planning on overclocking ur cpu
Ive got a rather in depth set of questions. I hope nobody is offended...
I’m looking to build an unraid NAS with 9 HDD of about 10TB each.
I’ve identified the below components for probable use based on recommendations. What I could use is some final advise as to if they are compatible and will fit in well together.
Im not limited to the components or manufacturers listed below. if you have any good alternatives and any cost effective alternatives as well please tell me.
PSU
• Evga Supernova 1000 G3 220-G3 -1000-X1
• Evga Spernova 1000 G2 120-G2 1000-XR
Motherboard
• Gigabyte Z490 Vision G LGA 1200
• Gigabyte Z390 Aorous pro with WIFI LGA
CPU
• Intel I-7 10700K/F
Memory
• ?
Graphics Card
• Do I need one?
SSTA
• ?
Expansion Card
• 6 port SATA 3.0 card 6Gbps
• Prefer three expansion cards capable of a minimum of 3 drives each. One per cage.
HDD CAGES
• ?
me noob so i can't help you
Oo interesting
@granite barn <- you are missing a PSU, and wasting money on a cpu cooler that you dont need
lmaoo
STH is going to be a good utility to find good NAS drives @foggy crystal
STH specializes in the latest news, articles and reviews of server, storage and networking products as well as open source software running on them
Lets see
@foggy crystal 10700k will not work on Z390 boards, only Z490.
@torpid notch I'm telling ya, at that point, go Optiplex+1650 with a new ssd :P
k
@foggy crystal please input those parts in PCPP
450$ budget is... really iffy for new builds
Yea, putting in PCPP will be useful too
@foggy crystal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ <- there
How does intel CPU/Mobo compatibility work? Is any LGA1151 CPU compatible with LGA1151 board? How does chipset come into play?
you want a headache @mild trout ?
Intel will deliver on that headache.
Naed gonna give me the Phd. lesson on intel sockets and chipset confusion
its just silly with more silly
hence why i ask
and i am curious what brings you around to ask @mild trout ?
A friend was talking about getting an intel CPU and I had no idea how their compatibility thing worked.
AMD is still masterrace
1200 is current socket for intel
depending on revision, it can go any way @mild trout
yes
intel sucks
eh
so a Z390 was the last revision of the lga1151? And only works with Coffee Lake CPUs?
imagine using ddr4 ram in 2020
nah my ram identifies as ddr6
can I pull out my Vram as use it for regular ram
correct, you cannot
unless you want to use a soldering iron, and that would only leave you with a nice fancy door stopper
Ive got a rather in depth set of questions. I hope nobody is offended...
@foggy crystal mk that's pretty interesting.... might wanna pick up a server cpu like xeon or epyc, will defo have everything you'll need... u might need a weak gpu if the cpu doesn't have onboard
@cursive magnet How did you get a 3070?
got a bot 😦
if you paid 110 usd for windows f
what is the max graphics card for ryzen 3 3100
if you paid 110 usd for windows f
@idle compass lol for my personal rig, every time I upgrade I just use the same windows install
like
can i get a good pc for $800?
last >9yrs, reliable, not too loud, can game at 1080p or maybe 1440p for older games?
@candid seal eBay
sweet
@candid seal patience
@idle compass I had to start 100% from scratch
Like a normal person
ah yes patience especially when the gpu sells out in .3 seconds
but ebay should work
is a Kraken M22 overkill for a ryzen 5 3600? i would be overclocking the processer to its max tho.
It got within 50$ of what the 6800xt is supposed to be. I figured the 3070 was worth it.
probably not until next year
@candid seal New higher ram cards are mid December
I'm wating too
ight cool
Parts are either worth their price to you or they’re not. Patience isn’t a factor. My time and effort is worth more. IMO
I was still 500 under budget
wow
so what was the final price? forgive me if you listed it, i must not have seen it
hey guys im looking for a air cooler to pair with my 5600x, was looking at the fuma 2 and the arctic freezer 50. any thoughts?
@raw mist no, a 120mm aio is worse than a lot of air coolers
trying to build a pc with a 500 budget for a friend. alr have ram. what are some parts i could get?
if you want overclocking performance you'd be better off spending the same money on a high end air cooler
$80 for a 120mm aio is laughable
the noctua NH-D15S is cheaper and competitive with some 280mm aios in cooling performance
@earnest olive the freezer 50 is an air cooler
but yeah nzxt is not exactly known for value
oh wait were you not talking to me>
not you.. i clearly pinged someone else
ohh sorry
Why does hardware have to be so hard to get just when I finally decide to build a new pc
@candid seal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Dm89N
I'm just waiting for 5900x and 3080 to come back into stock
@cunning knoll for $500 budget you'll get much better performance out of used than new
see if you can find a used rx 580 8gb for ~$110
ight cool, ty. 2 year warranty kinda was a turn off for fuma
i mean
it's an air cooler
worst case the fan fails and you buy a new fan for like $20
a big hunk of metal heatsink can't exactly fail
fuma 2 is one of the best price/performance midrange coolers
so don't discount it just because of some pretty much irrelevant warranty
ight cool just wanted to hear someone elses opinion on it
fans generally take much more than 2 years to fail
there are intel stock coolers out there in 10 year old office pcs still going strong
ight fair point haha
both will do an excellent job on the 5600X so it's up to you to determine between price/looks/noise
imma grab the fuma
@balmy patio
I need a hhd
And that ram is more expensive, and can ram be faster and slower?
???
when
Yes hold up
ok this is what i came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sMPtnL
@balmy patio
that ram is fine, its only like five cents more than the black version and i wanted it to match a little with the mobo
Oh
how much storage would you need?
Yes
Ok, thanks
ok wulshy i downgraded the ram to be able to fit the 2tb you asked for and as i remember saying, get some cable extensions that are white/black if you don't want to look at the ketchup and mustard cables once you're done https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpgbLP
Hey I'm currently running an i7 4790k @ 5ghz & a GTX 970 and i've been looking to upgrade, would there be anything that cost around the same as this pc build did a few years ago (£1200) (1500$) worth buying atm?
Some of my friends have been buying some of the new RTX cards but they've been paying almost as much as my whole build for a single card so im not too sure anymore if i should just wait for supply shortages to settle
do 970s still sell well? or not really
This hardware shortage is literally gonna make me cry
@pliant escarp what shortage? I buy 10 rtx 3080s every day
and a bunch of other parts too
mostly in demand, hard to find ones
jkjkjk
idk about 970s
they're outdated as hell i guess
I have 4690k and gtx 1080. Should i upgrade gpu or cpu first (1440p). R5 3600 or 5600, then radeon 6000 something
i used to have them sli'd but nvidia dont like supporting sli as much now 🥺🥺
If i get 3600 now would i be annoyed i didn't wait month or 2 or 3 and get 5600 instead
if you can find one
or you could go with a 3 3100 for a place holder
still decent performance
then get a 5600 when there in stock
no it never good idea to buy something permanent in place of something that's newer/better
gr
Well had 4690k for a while so few months is fine to wait for me
placeholders r ok tho
Well had 4690k for a while so few months is fine to wait for me
@lavish wing closer to weeks, dw
CPUs have less demand than gpus, and they get made quicker
cpu shortages only last weeks, at most
Haven't been following pc stuff for like a year or 2 but now it's interesting again
gpus are harder because they have way more silicon
Ahh right ok
And new radeon are coming out this month right? But will probably be no stock lol

although probably not as much, there wasn't nearly as much hype for them
1, because they basically match the rtx cards but 3 months late, and 2, they made by amd so not as much hype overall
Yeaa true
Haven't used radeon since hd 7850 lol
Then 970 then 1080 but not sure what's best to get, 6000 sounds decent
Oh damn
My one month old Ryzen 5 system just quitted on me. When I push the power button nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to narrow down the problem? I don't know which group to ask in so I figure I will start here.
hey can someone dm me to help me with 2 different pc options and lmk which i should buy
@small forum if you post the questions here, you can get multiple responses. but if you are dead set on a dm conversation, you can dm me
I would if captcha isn't a crappy piece of crap
that ez
tank you
@granite barn this version of captcha is just horrible
ez
It doesn't recognize half the things
When the object is clearly there
Nahhh you're wrong
I do those ez pz
sounds about right
so theoretical question
if I wanted a budget CPU cooler thats better than the R5 3600 Cooler what would I be looking at?
coming from me I would pick the hyper 212 black edition
but their is probably better options
now i need to remember my pword
@uncut pelican just reset it lmao
@mortal void Nah What I should have said was what list the pword is in
coming from me I would pick the hyper 212 black edition
@granite barn Black edition is like $54 compared to the regular 212 at $40 and the performance doesn't seem worth it
@stoic island have u had the captcha where u just have to drag the slider that one is so nice
u just have to drag it to the overlap the other puzzle piece its so fast

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/td2mDc bouta build my first pc, is this any good?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8LYpx6
This is what I want for my first PC
@spring crest fine if I edit some things around?
sure
@spring crest you fine with semi-modular PSUs or no
actually nah
too messy
hm
@spring crest welp, phanteks amp 650w at 100$ just sold out in the last like few hours, which is great, I don't really like seeing RM, but somehow it's one of the decent value options... somehow... oh well
@spring crest anyways
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xtmrvf
thanks
mobo change : Cheaper, better
ram change : Better perf at 5$ more
ssd change : Same real world perf at what, 30$ less
monitor change : Cheaper, better
@spring crest keyboard is your choice in the end, but I've been hearing a lot of good things about gk61 if you're fine with a 60% keeb
"Cheaper, better" two of my favorite words. They are better together
heh
mhm why optical tho
TFW you find out the R5 3600 is alot better than you thought
I'm looking at monitors and I wanted to ask if anyone had experience with 4K monitors? Is there really a difference with them and 1080p moniters?
@sour falcon 4k looks a little better good for looks
1080p looks worse but eaiser to run
Imo I feel like colors (panels) is more important when it comes to 1080p+ monitors for viewing pleasure
But I want 4k anyway
I haven't really seen anyone use 4K monitors but I was looking at that ASUS monitor sale that's currently on NewEgg
I'm trying to install mobo drivers but I don't have an optical disk drive and my wifi card won't work
@stoic island you have a 500$ build
Yea
What for?
its for a friend
games?
ok
yes
i wouldn't use it as my only form of storage
I'm having some troubles with my new motherboard and/or CPU. Can I ask some questions here to see if I can get it to work?
just ask

Thanks. I got a ASRock B550M Pro4 mobo with the Ryzen 5 3600 and 2x8GB RAM. When I plugged everything in, the CPU and DRAM lights turned on. Not sure how to go about troubleahooting it
do you have your manual with you?
there should be information about debug led's there
if not then i could find one online and refer to that for you
It just says there are the 4 lights to indicate any problems, but nothing about troubleahooting
is buying used pc parts and selling them as a system a bad idea
yes, they mean that the are malfunctioning
it can go both ways, wether they are completely unusable and will have to be replaced, or that it is not seated in properly
double check those components
How would I go about testing parts individually like my mobo
since i just pre-ordered a 3070 and im only 8th in queue, would i be able to boot a pc with a 3070 and 550W psu, just to make sure it works?
From where?
me or him?
*them
just to boot
not do anything else
it shouldnt be using that much wattage
The queue for the 3070 so @sinful hornet
canada computers
Oh rip
they let you reserve a 3070/3080 for when they arrivee
ye
its a nice system tho
very glad they're doing it
anyone on?
i mean... we're talking here...
sorry just came in here
yeye
have a question about psu
Just got a asus prime x570 mb. And I'm excited :D
core i9 with cooler master liquid cooler and gpu what size of psu you reommend?
since i just pre-ordered a 3070 and im only 8th in queue, would i be able to boot a pc with a 3070 and 550W psu, just to make sure it works?
@sinful hornet put it together in pcpp
graphics card
850w
Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card
I dont like to skimp on psu. Better to have too much than too little
prolly not an 850 then
does that show the min wattage needed?
@sinful hornet it shows estimated wattage for the whole build
huh, i always thought the pcpp was too low for that
core i9 with cooler master liquid cooler and gpu what size of psu you reommend?
@clear viper once again, put it in pcpp and it shows estimated wattage
based on the reccomended from manufacturers
No lol it’s accurate
uh, no
Yeah it is
because pcpp reccomends a crazy low wattage for something like a 3080
850w should be safe
and 3080's were crashing on 850's
I compared it to a professional wattage thing and it was the same
He doesn't have a $1000 gpu
Huh?
like, mate the estimated wattage for a 3070é3600 build is 379 watts
while 3070s were crashing on 750W power supplies sometimes
The wattage for a founders 3080 is 340 around there
It also depends on your whole build what psu you should buy 😂 the gpu doesn’t determine everything
it depends on the 750w psu
but you do realise that if you try to run it on a 320W psu it wont work lmao
Oh
but you do realise that if you try to run it on a 320W psu it wont work lmao
@sinful hornet no crap
Smfh
instead of 1660 super what should i get
"it shows estimated wattage for the whole build"
equalivlent
Reason: Bad word usage
"it shows estimated wattage for the whole build"
@sinful hornet it does
peak draw when gaming is 350
MAKE A PCPP LIST
peak under a sustained load like furmark is 370
mate i did
plan on 370w for a 3080 founders
stop calling me mate Jesus Christ
hes obv Australian
nah mate
should be plenty for a 5700, was it?
the rog strix 3080 has a 450w power limit
well, the 3090 does too, in asus' case
so PSU requirements also depend on the specific ampere card you get
k thanks
@sinful hornet and it does idk what ur talking about
"Estimated"
Yeah ik
not "Actual"
we were already over this, is that not the estimated heat output
THAT SAYS WATTAGE SMFH
so it'll be 0
“ESTIMATED WATTAGE” NOT HEAT OUTPUT
mate, do you even know what wattage is?
and TDP is an underestimate
in that case, please try running a 3080 off of 269W
quite curious as to what would explode first
ok then whats your build?
@raw mist let's see
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
first 4 parts, why?
@stoic island thanks man
and im guessing you didnt go with a 300W power supply
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
@violet harness then we cant help you you dense cabbage
GPU and case are fine, PSU can be cheaper
EVGA BA or whatever it's called has been cheap recently
and im guessing you didnt go with a 300W power supply
@sinful hornet no crap Sherlock I went for double
@stoic island k, what psu? also the ssd, cpu, mobo and ram are for budget
look man
well in that case, if pcpp says that its only going to use 269W, why didnt you go with a 300W psu?
lmao
@violet harness then we cant help you you dense cabbage
@viral ore I’m not the one asking for help smh
then go away
2600+b450m has a bit of merit, but ram and ssd need to get changed either way
then go away
@viral ore no lol
2600+b450m has a bit of merit, but ram and ssd need to get changed either way
@stoic island what ram and ssd shud i put?

well in that case, if pcpp says that its only going to use 269W, why didnt you go with a 300W psu?
@sinful hornet just because the estimated wattage says a specific number doesn’t mean I should go for exactly that psu number

;-;
isnt that what you were telling me earlier?
i know that its not true, i was just trying to use your logic
All I’m trying to say is, pcpp is a decent wattage estimator 🤦🏻♂️
yes
but its not
because if it was, why wouldnt you have gone with a 300W psu
if its "only" using 269W
because if it was, why wouldnt you have gone with a 300W psu
@sinful hornet room for upgrade
k den
just slap a 1600w t2 in there and call it a night
then its not an accurate wattage estimator

IT SAYS ESTIMATED
ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ACCURATE IF IT SAYS ESTIMATED
it means nothing
thats what i do most of the time
i never look at it
because ive always seen it as too low to make any sense
You can use this https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator
Why?
its easier
that's the easiest way to be sure
There’s a basic version
(video card name) power consumption
Just as easy
(cpu name) power consumption
@violet harness because the thing is
literally google it
they don't use real values
you see how they use TDP?
what if you want a 10900k full load
105w tdp
that'll tell ya
lmao that website just reccomended me a 450W psu for a 3600/3070 system
bug with a slight all core, 300w power draw
just from the chip
¯_(ツ)_/¯
better do quickly do the calculations yourself
And look? It was the same watt power rating as the tdp
lmao that website just reccomended me a 450W psu for a 3600/3070 system
@sinful hornet i mean, if you had a really good 450w psu, it would work
yea, like a titanuim or smth
PL can be up to like 500w on a ftw3 and crap
3950x 2080 ti op 450w @viral ore
more like 400 but it's up there
where a 1000W would prolly be cheaper lmao
@violet harness but do know, different models of cards can have different power limits
from a hardware locked ventus 3x with like a 320w PL
to a ftw3 with just vbios limitting it to somewhere in the 400s for PL
Gotta eat dinner now
umm
Looking for advice here. My current build is 8 years old. So far my thermals hold just fine, typically under 60 degrees Celsius, games like Control run at a steady 60fps on high settings. My main worry here is the age of the components. I've been considering upgrading just the GPU, but I'm afraid of bottlenecks.
Here's the specs.
I've been considering an RTX 30 series card (assuming they ever become available before two or three more generations of GPUs come about).
@neon crest yeah you are definitely going to need to upgrade everything if you want to go for a 3070 or higher
i mean, yes its going to bottleneck but theres no way that i know of that it can get worse performance
Any particular bottlenecks?
cpu ryzen 9
gpu rtx 3080
ram 124
ssd 1tb
water cooled coscum build
total price 500 pirate coins
3570K is not going to hold up at all
rate it
"124"
the 3770K is the best chip your motherboard can take and it's still gonna bottleneck a 3070
so you'd need a new motherboard, new cpu, and new ram
storage/case may be reusable
cooler/fans as well
power supply depends
if you're worried about age then you probably want to replace it if it's like 8 years old
650W.... I hear it may not be sufficient.
650W is enough on paper
but wattage doesn't say anything about the quality of the unit
there are good 650W units and bad 1000W units
Oh, I won't cheap out on the PSU, that's for sure.
if you wanna give me a budget and which parts you intend to reuse then i can make a list
LGA1155 cooler is compatible with modern intel and should be adaptable to modern AMD depending on which cooler
some companies offer mounting hardware for older coolers
like noctua
I most definitely want a Noctua. Ugly brown fan and all.
oh you'd just buy a new cooler?
Absolutely. If I do a new build, all I'm keeping is my case and fans.
if you have an air cooler on the cpu it should be fine to reuse, liquid cooler i would replace after 8 years
Hello Everyone new to building can I ask for advice hearnregarding a power suppy?
Sorry wanted to make sure rule wise. I just purchased a 650w power suppy for my current pc is that all I need to power a graphics card
depends
on which power supply it is and what the system looks like
there are graphics cards that run on 30W and there are graphics cards that run up to 450W
Okay ill send a picture of it
a model name would be more useful
Corsair 650w i believe
if you just bought it you should be able to find it in order history
this one?
Yup!
it's alright, more of a budget option, not particularly good or bad
should be fine up to RTX 3070, 3080 is a bit iffy
So fhe rtx 3070 is my bèst option with this?
well i would say that's the maximum i would think about running on it
And will that run tarkov?
Hi @earnest olive , I'm back. I am saving money still, but the goal is to build when I get to around 2K. I want to avoid unnecessary costs like RGB (I don't mind if it's there on a good quality component, but I do mind if I'm paying double the price of a same-performance non-RGB component. I prefer durable over pretty.
I don't dislike my current system, but like I said, the age of the components is a factor.
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cpu ryzen 9
gpu rtx 3080
ram 124
ssd 1tb
water cooled coscum build
total price 500 pirate coins
~75 FPS at 1080p ultra, ~120 FPS at 1080p low
@true kindle spamming the same thing isn't funny
nobody's laughing
i just wanted u to rate it
Would i be able to run and stream with that?
Not that
@neon crest makes sense, better to make a part list once you have the money though since pricing and availability changes frequently
just come back here when you have the money and someone should be able to help you
Sorry need to learn to @
yes, you can stream with that
Im looking at 500$ canadian
Just for card
either way RTX 3070 is considerably more than that
at that budget you'd get the most performance out of a used 2070 super from someone looking to upgrade
I figured current find a price i was just asking if that was the max. And thank you!
insain pc
Nice first experience here then
its my leg
they're banned now
anyways
if you're looking for new only, you probably want to consider a 2060 super or 2060, but they're not terrific value right now as the 3060/3060Ti aren't out yet so their prices haven't dropped
if you don't mind used then a 2070 super or 1080ti would be great
Would you recommend taking advantage of the new egg sale
which one?
Tried to wrap my head around it earlier
i am not canadian or affiliated with newegg
Ah sorry!!! Ill check now!
canada gang
Are these items goo on that power supply and can it run and stream tarkov or what more do i need?
only really need 16gb of ram
gaming and streaming
16gb should be enough
unless its like, star citizen or whatever that one was
16GB is enough for games that aren't FS2020, especially if you're on a budget
My build gets like over 100fps on warzone
a 1660Ti is good for an average of about 100 FPS at competitive settings in tarkov
also, you said just gaming
@earnest olive this is good for the price right
they said gaming and streaming
as for whether or not the 1660Ti is worth it, you may want to check deals on 1660 supers instead, they are usually significantly cheaper without losing significant performance
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/sFZzK8/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-super-6-gb-gaming-amp-video-card-zt-t16620d-10m i see one available for $300 although i'm not familiar with the retailer
what, you dont know mike?
@sinful hornet it should be able to handle streaming as well
@earnest olive here’s my build it’s cool https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bRkfy4
when i used to stream i didn't recall seeing significant ram usage from OBS
a lot
build is fine, i would recommend paying a little more for a SN750 over the crucial p1, it's worth it imo
For speed?
for pretty much everything
sequential speed, random speed, write endurance
crucial p1 isn't bad but the sn750 is not much more
What’s ur specs
usually a toss up between sn750 and mp34 in the budget-midrange ssd category, but mp34 seems to be significantly more expensive in canada right now
For ur pc
my pc right now is a bit garbage because i'm waiting for new parts
Eh I still wanna see
Thoughts on this? Just ordered the parts last night
Best I could do with current prices
Lul before you order the parts ask
I have a question, is it common in canada for 8gb of ram to cost $100+
pokefighter, no
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrLcHz this is my current build, i am currently waiting for a 6800XT and then deciding if i want to get a ryzen 5000
@little osprey would recommend cancelling that ssd and cpu
Its $500
around $110 for one with rgb
@sinful hornet nope lol
what?
WTF IS THE 3600 price rn
Corsair rgb pro in cad is a 100$
WTF IS THE 3600 price rn
@whole harbor it’s bloated
But overpriced
3600X isn't bad but you're way overpaying for it
Rather pay extra
ok well, sorry i was $10 over
3600XT is cheaper than that right now even
For the X
last time i checked, thats what the prices were at
What is the XT?
Is it better than the X?
I say you don’t need a cooler the stock will work fine
the ram is okay, it's not bad, you could get better performance for slightly higher price, but it's not bad
well
i would disagree as a 3600X owner
the stock cooler is fine yes
but you also get enough bonus performance and quiet from a $30 cooler that it's worth it
@little osprey what are you using the machine for
Yeah for 30$ less you could stick with the stock cooler
What’s a good psu 650w anyone have any suggestions
But overall not a bad build right?
like i said if you just ordered i would cancel the cpu and ssd
Too late I think
the cpu is just overpriced, the ssd is genuinely bad
if you ordered from amazon they're very lenient about cancelling
it's not about the brand, it's about the product
WD makes good stuff, they also make bad stuff
Amazon charges 8.5% tax
So that sapphire was really like 350
Big oof
Wanted a decent 2060 and 2070 but no way in hell im paying 450+ for a 300$ card
Slow?
costs like $5 more to get a really good one
it does
And some people on Reddit said that 500gb sata is faster than m.2
Idk how true that is
First build so idk anything
Reason: Bad word usage
Oops
Amd alr got rx 7000??
m.2 is merely a physical standard
bruhhh
either way i've found reddit to be a peculiar dichotomy
there are a lot of people who are well informed on reddit
From Newegg?
and a lot of people who know literally nothing but speak very loud
there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of in between on there
it gets especially bad when the subject is overclocking
if you're gaming, PBO is better than manual overclocking
PBO is just AMD's intelligent boost algorithm
with limits unlocked
i have a 3600X with a frankly overkill cooler and motherboard
best possible manual overclock is 4.2GHz all core @1.238V, which is a pretty decent sample
PBO will reach 4175MHz all core in heavy synthetic loads but up to 4425MHz in gaming
What are your temps like doing that? I wanna keep my stuff as cool as possible for longevity hence the case
well i'd better give you the temps i had with my old CM 212
since you are getting a CM 212
9900k or 5600x since they're practically the same price rn?
room ambient: 22-25C
idle + power saver mode: 38-43C
idle + balanced mode: 47-60C
cinebench r20: 74C peak
prime95 small ffts (avx on): 85C sustained
i mean 5600x
@astral swift "same price" is a bit deceptive, the 9900K demands a stronger motherboard and cooling than the 5600X does
5600X will happily run on a $70 motherboard and stock cooler if you so desire
true, but 2 less cores is not preferable to productivity
do the same thing with a 9900K and you might end up with a nuclear reactor
5600X is not far behind the 9900K in productivity despite 2 less cores
the 9900K still has a lead
but it's not that high
6 stronger cores vs. 8 weaker cores
i mean if im going for full on productivity on a budget id get a 2700x
5600X beats 2700X in productivity by quite a bit
even in octa core?
Where did you even find a 5600x? All sold out where I looked
core count does not mean everything
Was gonna buy one but aint none
consider a 16 core opteron from 2011
well obv FX and opteron and pentium cores are severely underpowered compared to today
but Ryzen 2700x was only like
would you rather have 6 mercedes or 16 flintstones cars
yes and zen+ is a much weaker architecture than even zen 2 let alone zen 3
6 mercedes vs 7 hondas
the 2700X is pretty much toe to toe with the 3600 in productivity
let alone the 5600X
don't look too much at core count look at benchmarks
2700x is better than 3600 in productivity
just dont know if it's worth the premium to jump to a 5600x
make of this what you will
since it's a 100$ price diff
i mean i see your point on getting a 5600x
zen+ is significantly weaker than zen 2 and zen 3
but i still think that AMD is pricing their stuff at a premium now
im just too used to seeing AMD as a budget option lol
if they have a premium product why can't they have a premium price?
theres a lot of discounts on intel that make it more favorable now
but yeah ig ill have to look at total price including mobo & cooler
Reason: Bad word usage
Dang
you're going to want to pair a 9900K with at least a mid range Z390 board for it to make sense
What I said was IMO AMD is beating the crap out of Intel
And with the 6000 series might even take out Nvidia
and at least a CM 212 for running stock, or NH-D15S or better for overclocking
30-45 depending on fluctuation and rgb or not
Ooof
if you're on a budget the 5600X is still a better option
due to the lower requirements for cooling and VRMs
i bought a $150 mobo like 2 weeks ago and i'm very happy with it
upgraded from a B450 tomahawk max to a B550 aorus elite, gives me peace of mind knowing that if i want a 5950X i can do it
Do the new processors not work with B450?
Thought there was a bios update coming that would allow it
oh the B450 tomahawk max will certainly support zen 3
but worse vrms, no pcie 4, no SAM
yo
just a random question
how much does it cost to water cool a pc
like a super intricate water cooling sort of thing
like the type of stuff u see in build-pics
custom loops?
price depends a lot on what kind of components you put in it
can be >600
like
let say
u were to cool a threadripper and 2 3090s
and isnt like water coolig super wuiet
quiet
bc im watching this video of like some dude comparing the mac pro to a threadripper pc
and the gist of the video is
2 3090s jeebus
the threadripper beats the mac in every way shape form and fashion
just
its l o u d
so i though that water cooling could fix that right
and i dont think water cooling would cost 10k more
Guys
What’s a good but affordable cooler for a ryzen 7 3700
I was gonna use the stock one but it seems like nobody uses it
stock cooler is perfectly adequate
not for ocing tho
its fine for normal use
yea what kermit said
i've done 2-3 builds with the ryzen 7 3700x using stock cooler and overclocking
😮
stock cooler was perfectly fine for 4.2ghz all core 1.25V
this carrot tastes like soap
4.2ghz
4.2ghz is alot
I somehow got a 3070
basically i overclocked it to the safe voltage limit (1.238-1.262V depending on the chip) and it was still fine in prime95 small ffts (the heaviest cpu load)
woah
my principle with stock coolers is
@earnest olive tanks
the stock cooler is quite impressive on the 3700X
the stock paste is okay, if you have thermal paste on hand you can use it
it comes with paste pre-applied and that paste does a fine job
but you can use better paste if desired
i build very often so i buy bulk arctic mx-4
Arctic mx-4
bought an 8g syringe for $12 that should be enough for 20+ builds
yes, avoid mixing thermal paste
im just hoping the stock paste that comes with the gammax gt isnt too bad lul
Oh ok
is building a pc hard
the difficulty of building a pc depends on what you're trying to do
isnt cable management like hard tho
The cables seem so complicated
^
and if you have fingers
exotic custom loops inside a small form factor case? yes it'll be hard
And I wanna buy extensions but that seems like even more work
dont necessarily need to cable manage
bog standard air cooled build in a mid tower? super easy
and cable management is really just making sure the stuff fits inside the case and isnt coming out lul
wth is a custom looo
@glass depot how much was it in CAD
no like
☹️
i have a build
especially once you have practice
The 3070?
and ima build it soon
yes
but im spooked
the ventus 2x is 750 i think
860 ☺️
what
bc its micro atx
this one i knocked out in 45 minutes flat including cable management
and isnt smol hard
Yeah without it’s like 600
😮
Tax is SO GRIMY
0.13 in ontario
bruh..
Tax is rough
Bc Is the worst
0.15 in new brunswick i think
600 is good price that tax ADDS 200 USD LMAO 
but for a first build 3 hours is pretty normal
GST and PST is so high
Turned my 1k build into like 1100
i think i finalized my build can anyone let me know if im messing up at all?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
wrong link
pro tip.. if you have an account you can configure pcpartpicker to automatically add tax to the price
Whew
pro tip.. if you have an account you can configure pcpartpicker to automatically add tax to the price
@earnest olive :0 how teach me senpai
Y’all how many fans could I fit in my nzxt h150
all the wifi apparently
nzxt h510 is best left with the stock fans
Reasonably?
SRSLY
you can add 2 fans to the front
also, i just wish you could set your account to a specific currency
but the case is designed for negative pressure, it's horrible with traditional airflow
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CzJygt
@weary portal you can get a b450 with wifi built in for less than that
and its not ugly
Oh
cause every time i open it i have to change the currency to cad
if you want to make pcpartpicker automatically calculate tax
go to your profile, click the account tab, then click "merchants & pricing"
Wait which b450 has wifi
