#building-and-recc-chat

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tired orbit
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oh cool, but the problem now is getting the new cpu and gpu :/

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cool beans, thanks @balmy patio

idle compass
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i heard amd wont have as bad stock issues like nvidia did

foggy hazel
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depending on what rumour site you visit, you can hear everything

granite barn
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Is it good or naw

stark bramble
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@granite barn are u planning on overclocking ur cpu

torpid notch
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good or bad 450 build

foggy crystal
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Ive got a rather in depth set of questions. I hope nobody is offended...

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I’m looking to build an unraid NAS with 9 HDD of about 10TB each.

I’ve identified the below components for probable use based on recommendations. What I could use is some final advise as to if they are compatible and will fit in well together.

Im not limited to the components or manufacturers listed below. if you have any good alternatives and any cost effective alternatives as well please tell me.

PSU
• Evga Supernova 1000 G3 220-G3 -1000-X1
• Evga Spernova 1000 G2 120-G2 1000-XR

Motherboard
• Gigabyte Z490 Vision G LGA 1200
• Gigabyte Z390 Aorous pro with WIFI LGA

CPU
• Intel I-7 10700K/F

Memory
• ?

Graphics Card
• Do I need one?

SSTA
• ?

Expansion Card
• 6 port SATA 3.0 card 6Gbps
• Prefer three expansion cards capable of a minimum of 3 drives each. One per cage.

HDD CAGES
• ?

torpid notch
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me noob so i can't help you

stoic island
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Oo interesting

foggy hazel
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@granite barn <- you are missing a PSU, and wasting money on a cpu cooler that you dont need

stark bramble
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lmaoo

stoic island
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STH is going to be a good utility to find good NAS drives @foggy crystal

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Lets see

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@foggy crystal 10700k will not work on Z390 boards, only Z490.

stoic island
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@torpid notch I'm telling ya, at that point, go Optiplex+1650 with a new ssd :P

torpid notch
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k

foggy hazel
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@foggy crystal please input those parts in PCPP

stoic island
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450$ budget is... really iffy for new builds

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Yea, putting in PCPP will be useful too

foggy hazel
mild trout
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How does intel CPU/Mobo compatibility work? Is any LGA1151 CPU compatible with LGA1151 board? How does chipset come into play?

foggy hazel
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you want a headache @mild trout ?

stoic island
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Intel will deliver on that headache.

mild trout
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Naed gonna give me the Phd. lesson on intel sockets and chipset confusion

stoic island
foggy hazel
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its just silly with more silly

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hence why i ask

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and i am curious what brings you around to ask @mild trout ?

mild trout
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A friend was talking about getting an intel CPU and I had no idea how their compatibility thing worked.

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AMD is still masterrace

foggy hazel
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1200 is current socket for intel

mild trout
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ya

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but would a lga1151 cpu work with a lga1151 mobo or is it more complex than that?

foggy hazel
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depending on revision, it can go any way @mild trout

mild trout
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geez

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annoying

foggy hazel
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yes

mild trout
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intel sucks

foggy hazel
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eh

mild trout
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so a Z390 was the last revision of the lga1151? And only works with Coffee Lake CPUs?

foggy hazel
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aye

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and ddr4

mild trout
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imagine using ddr4 ram in 2020

foggy hazel
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well, you are

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i am currently on ddr3 :P

mild trout
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nah my ram identifies as ddr6

foggy hazel
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no, that is your gddr6 that does

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which is vram

mild trout
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can I pull out my Vram as use it for regular ram

foggy hazel
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correct, you cannot

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unless you want to use a soldering iron, and that would only leave you with a nice fancy door stopper

arctic jungle
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Ive got a rather in depth set of questions. I hope nobody is offended...
@foggy crystal mk that's pretty interesting.... might wanna pick up a server cpu like xeon or epyc, will defo have everything you'll need... u might need a weak gpu if the cpu doesn't have onboard

median swan
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just ordered my power supply and case from new egg

mellow hound
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do build thy pc if u custom it

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th*

cursive magnet
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💯 purchased. Last part gets here next Friday!!!!

weak field
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noice

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you paid 330$ for that?

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3800x

candid seal
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@cursive magnet How did you get a 3070?

signal gate
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got a bot 😦

idle compass
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if you paid 110 usd for windows f

polar anvil
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what is the max graphics card for ryzen 3 3100

arctic jungle
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if you paid 110 usd for windows f
@idle compass lol for my personal rig, every time I upgrade I just use the same windows install

little osprey
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like

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can i get a good pc for $800?

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last >9yrs, reliable, not too loud, can game at 1080p or maybe 1440p for older games?

weak field
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last?

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so you want it to last over performance

cursive magnet
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@candid seal eBay

candid seal
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sweet

little leaf
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@candid seal patience

cursive magnet
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@idle compass I had to start 100% from scratch

little leaf
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Like a normal person

candid seal
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ah yes patience especially when the gpu sells out in .3 seconds

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but ebay should work

raw mist
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is a Kraken M22 overkill for a ryzen 5 3600? i would be overclocking the processer to its max tho.

cursive magnet
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It got within 50$ of what the 6800xt is supposed to be. I figured the 3070 was worth it.

little leaf
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@candid seal wait lol

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That just shows you dont have patience

candid seal
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kinda hard to not

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when are they gonna be in stock regularly?

little leaf
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probably not until next year

cursive magnet
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@candid seal New higher ram cards are mid December

little leaf
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I'm wating too

candid seal
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ight cool

cursive magnet
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Parts are either worth their price to you or they’re not. Patience isn’t a factor. My time and effort is worth more. IMO

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I was still 500 under budget

candid seal
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wow

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so what was the final price? forgive me if you listed it, i must not have seen it

rocky wren
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hey guys im looking for a air cooler to pair with my 5600x, was looking at the fuma 2 and the arctic freezer 50. any thoughts?

earnest olive
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@raw mist no, a 120mm aio is worse than a lot of air coolers

cunning knoll
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trying to build a pc with a 500 budget for a friend. alr have ram. what are some parts i could get?

earnest olive
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if you want overclocking performance you'd be better off spending the same money on a high end air cooler

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$80 for a 120mm aio is laughable

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the noctua NH-D15S is cheaper and competitive with some 280mm aios in cooling performance

rocky wren
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@earnest olive the freezer 50 is an air cooler

earnest olive
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but yeah nzxt is not exactly known for value

rocky wren
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oh wait were you not talking to me>

earnest olive
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not you.. i clearly pinged someone else

rocky wren
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ohh sorry

pliant escarp
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Why does hardware have to be so hard to get just when I finally decide to build a new pc

cursive magnet
earnest olive
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either of those will be fine on a 5600x

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5600x runs cooler than 3600

pliant escarp
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I'm just waiting for 5900x and 3080 to come back into stock

earnest olive
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@cunning knoll for $500 budget you'll get much better performance out of used than new

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see if you can find a used rx 580 8gb for ~$110

rocky wren
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ight cool, ty. 2 year warranty kinda was a turn off for fuma

earnest olive
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i mean

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it's an air cooler

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worst case the fan fails and you buy a new fan for like $20

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a big hunk of metal heatsink can't exactly fail

rocky wren
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ight thats a good point lol

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ty

earnest olive
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fuma 2 is one of the best price/performance midrange coolers

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so don't discount it just because of some pretty much irrelevant warranty

rocky wren
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ight cool just wanted to hear someone elses opinion on it

earnest olive
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fans generally take much more than 2 years to fail

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there are intel stock coolers out there in 10 year old office pcs still going strong

rocky wren
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ight fair point haha

earnest olive
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both will do an excellent job on the 5600X so it's up to you to determine between price/looks/noise

rocky wren
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imma grab the fuma

weak field
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guys

languid cedar
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@balmy patio

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I need a hhd

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And that ram is more expensive, and can ram be faster and slower?

balmy patio
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???

languid cedar
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The list u made .e

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Me

balmy patio
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when

languid cedar
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I need more storage

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Last night

balmy patio
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ahhh

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can you resend it?

languid cedar
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Yes hold up

balmy patio
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that ram is fine, its only like five cents more than the black version and i wanted it to match a little with the mobo

languid cedar
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Oh

balmy patio
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how much storage would you need?

languid cedar
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Maybe like 2 tb

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And a ssd for the os

balmy patio
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okok

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and you're keeping it below 1.1k, right?

languid cedar
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Yes

balmy patio
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got it

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ok ill see what i can do

languid cedar
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Ok, thanks

pliant escarp
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This hardware shortage is literally gonna make me cry

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No joke

balmy patio
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ok wulshy i downgraded the ram to be able to fit the 2tb you asked for and as i remember saying, get some cable extensions that are white/black if you don't want to look at the ketchup and mustard cables once you're done https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpgbLP

sturdy tinsel
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Hey I'm currently running an i7 4790k @ 5ghz & a GTX 970 and i've been looking to upgrade, would there be anything that cost around the same as this pc build did a few years ago (£1200) (1500$) worth buying atm?

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Some of my friends have been buying some of the new RTX cards but they've been paying almost as much as my whole build for a single card so im not too sure anymore if i should just wait for supply shortages to settle

weak field
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better to go custom

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and yes

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you can fit a 3080/5600x into a 1500$ bduget

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budget

sturdy tinsel
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do 970s still sell well? or not really

arctic jungle
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This hardware shortage is literally gonna make me cry
@pliant escarp what shortage? I buy 10 rtx 3080s every day bulbasip

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and a bunch of other parts too

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mostly in demand, hard to find ones

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jkjkjk

weak field
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idk about 970s

sturdy tinsel
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they're outdated as hell i guess

lavish wing
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I have 4690k and gtx 1080. Should i upgrade gpu or cpu first (1440p). R5 3600 or 5600, then radeon 6000 something

weak field
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cpu

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5600 impossible to find

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3600 still good cpu

sturdy tinsel
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i used to have them sli'd but nvidia dont like supporting sli as much now 🥺🥺

weak field
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yeah sucks

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dual 3090ti super xc ultra

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in sli

lavish wing
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If i get 3600 now would i be annoyed i didn't wait month or 2 or 3 and get 5600 instead

weak field
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if you can find one

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or you could go with a 3 3100 for a place holder

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still decent performance

arctic jungle
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what

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no

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don't say 'get 3600'

weak field
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then get a 5600 when there in stock

arctic jungle
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wait for sotck

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stupid

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don't give bad advice

weak field
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im not

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its my opinion

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snowflake

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depends on when they want it

arctic jungle
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no it never good idea to buy something permanent in place of something that's newer/better

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gr

lavish wing
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Well had 4690k for a while so few months is fine to wait for me

arctic jungle
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placeholders r ok tho

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Well had 4690k for a while so few months is fine to wait for me
@lavish wing closer to weeks, dw

lavish wing
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But would need new mobo + ram

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Ohh ok nice

arctic jungle
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CPUs have less demand than gpus, and they get made quicker

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cpu shortages only last weeks, at most

lavish wing
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Haven't been following pc stuff for like a year or 2 but now it's interesting again

arctic jungle
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gpus are harder because they have way more silicon

lavish wing
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Ahh right ok

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And new radeon are coming out this month right? But will probably be no stock lol

arctic jungle
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yes they are coming out

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same problem as rtx cards most likely

weak field
arctic jungle
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although probably not as much, there wasn't nearly as much hype for them

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1, because they basically match the rtx cards but 3 months late, and 2, they made by amd so not as much hype overall

lavish wing
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Yeaa true

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Haven't used radeon since hd 7850 lol

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Then 970 then 1080 but not sure what's best to get, 6000 sounds decent

cursive magnet
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@lavish wing 6000s drop Wednesday

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List for 6800x is 649

lavish wing
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Oh damn

normal prism
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My one month old Ryzen 5 system just quitted on me. When I push the power button nothing happens. Any suggestions on how to narrow down the problem? I don't know which group to ask in so I figure I will start here.

small forum
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hey can someone dm me to help me with 2 different pc options and lmk which i should buy

foggy hazel
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@small forum if you post the questions here, you can get multiple responses. but if you are dead set on a dm conversation, you can dm me

small forum
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alrighty

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@foggy hazel i dmed ya

granite barn
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does anyone have a 600 dollar build list

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if so pls link

stoic island
granite barn
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that ez

granite barn
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tank you

stoic island
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@granite barn this version of captcha is just horrible

granite barn
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ez

stoic island
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It doesn't recognize half the things

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When the object is clearly there

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Nahhh you're wrong

granite barn
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I do those ez pz

uncut pelican
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sounds about right

mortal void
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so theoretical question

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if I wanted a budget CPU cooler thats better than the R5 3600 Cooler what would I be looking at?

granite barn
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coming from me I would pick the hyper 212 black edition

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but their is probably better options

stoic island
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@mortal void gammaxx 400

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Ez

uncut pelican
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my did Newegg log me out

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that is unfortunate

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now i need to remember my pword

mortal void
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now i need to remember my pword
@uncut pelican just reset it lmao

uncut pelican
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@mortal void Nah What I should have said was what list the pword is in

mortal void
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coming from me I would pick the hyper 212 black edition
@granite barn Black edition is like $54 compared to the regular 212 at $40 and the performance doesn't seem worth it

granite barn
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it is 30

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on amazon

mortal void
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not for me

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I be canadian

granite barn
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woah

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canada rules

uncut pelican
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canada pog

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I aint from canada but yk i am canadian

mortal void
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lmao

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bet

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also I'd probably opt for the Hyper 212 evo

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is nice

deep skiff
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@stoic island have u had the captcha where u just have to drag the slider that one is so nice

stoic island
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No?

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Id like that

deep skiff
weak field
spring crest
mortal void
stoic island
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@spring crest fine if I edit some things around?

spring crest
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sure

stoic island
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@spring crest you fine with semi-modular PSUs or no

spring crest
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idk much about psu forms

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whats the difference?

stoic island
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actually nah

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too messy

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hm

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@spring crest welp, phanteks amp 650w at 100$ just sold out in the last like few hours, which is great, I don't really like seeing RM, but somehow it's one of the decent value options... somehow... oh well

spring crest
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thanks

stoic island
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mobo change : Cheaper, better

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ram change : Better perf at 5$ more

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ssd change : Same real world perf at what, 30$ less

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monitor change : Cheaper, better

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@spring crest keyboard is your choice in the end, but I've been hearing a lot of good things about gk61 if you're fine with a 60% keeb

uncut pelican
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"Cheaper, better" two of my favorite words. They are better together

stoic island
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heh

deep skiff
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mhm why optical tho

mortal void
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TFW you find out the R5 3600 is alot better than you thought

sour falcon
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I'm looking at monitors and I wanted to ask if anyone had experience with 4K monitors? Is there really a difference with them and 1080p moniters?

little leaf
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@sour falcon 4k looks a little better good for looks

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1080p looks worse but eaiser to run

tiny oriole
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Imo I feel like colors (panels) is more important when it comes to 1080p+ monitors for viewing pleasure

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But I want 4k anyway

sour falcon
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I haven't really seen anyone use 4K monitors but I was looking at that ASUS monitor sale that's currently on NewEgg

little osprey
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I'm trying to install mobo drivers but I don't have an optical disk drive and my wifi card won't work

cloud oasis
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@stoic island you have a 500$ build

whole harbor
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$500

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Thats a tight budget

cloud oasis
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Yea

whole harbor
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What for?

cloud oasis
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its for a friend

whole harbor
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games?

cloud oasis
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Hes gonna buy a quest 2

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yea games

whole harbor
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ok

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Usd?

cloud oasis
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yep

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And peripherals

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Under 700$

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dm to me imma be gone for a bit

whole harbor
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ok

balmy patio
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whats up

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what comes to your mind when you say "good wifi card"

median swan
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is this good for the price

balmy patio
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yes

median swan
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i got it for my pc

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hopefully its good enough for games

balmy patio
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i wouldn't use it as my only form of storage

tepid kite
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I'm having some troubles with my new motherboard and/or CPU. Can I ask some questions here to see if I can get it to work?

weak field
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yep

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dont ask to ask

balmy patio
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just ask

weak field
tepid kite
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Thanks. I got a ASRock B550M Pro4 mobo with the Ryzen 5 3600 and 2x8GB RAM. When I plugged everything in, the CPU and DRAM lights turned on. Not sure how to go about troubleahooting it

balmy patio
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do you have your manual with you?

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there should be information about debug led's there

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if not then i could find one online and refer to that for you

tepid kite
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It just says there are the 4 lights to indicate any problems, but nothing about troubleahooting

weak field
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is buying used pc parts and selling them as a system a bad idea

tepid kite
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Only page i can find about it, but nothing about what to do if they light up

balmy patio
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yes, they mean that the are malfunctioning

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it can go both ways, wether they are completely unusable and will have to be replaced, or that it is not seated in properly

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double check those components

tepid kite
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Just reseated RAM and CPU

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Same thing

iron berry
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How would I go about testing parts individually like my mobo

sinful hornet
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since i just pre-ordered a 3070 and im only 8th in queue, would i be able to boot a pc with a 3070 and 550W psu, just to make sure it works?

iron berry
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From where?

sinful hornet
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me or him?

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*them

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just to boot

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not do anything else

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it shouldnt be using that much wattage

iron berry
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The queue for the 3070 so @sinful hornet

sinful hornet
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canada computers

iron berry
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Oh rip

sinful hornet
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they let you reserve a 3070/3080 for when they arrivee

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ye

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its a nice system tho

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very glad they're doing it

clear viper
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anyone on?

sinful hornet
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i mean... we're talking here...

clear viper
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sorry just came in here

sinful hornet
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yeye

clear viper
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have a question about psu

kind robin
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Just got a asus prime x570 mb. And I'm excited :D

sinful hornet
clear viper
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core i9 with cooler master liquid cooler and gpu what size of psu you reommend?

sinful hornet
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and gpu?

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what?

violet harness
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since i just pre-ordered a 3070 and im only 8th in queue, would i be able to boot a pc with a 3070 and 550W psu, just to make sure it works?
@sinful hornet put it together in pcpp

clear viper
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graphics card

kind robin
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850w

sinful hornet
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does that show the min wattage needed?

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yes, but which graphics card

clear viper
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Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card

kind robin
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I dont like to skimp on psu. Better to have too much than too little

sinful hornet
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prolly not an 850 then

violet harness
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does that show the min wattage needed?
@sinful hornet it shows estimated wattage for the whole build

sinful hornet
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huh, i always thought the pcpp was too low for that

violet harness
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core i9 with cooler master liquid cooler and gpu what size of psu you reommend?
@clear viper once again, put it in pcpp and it shows estimated wattage

sinful hornet
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based on the reccomended from manufacturers

violet harness
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No lol it’s accurate

sinful hornet
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uh, no

violet harness
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Yeah it is

sinful hornet
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because pcpp reccomends a crazy low wattage for something like a 3080

kind robin
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850w should be safe

sinful hornet
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and 3080's were crashing on 850's

violet harness
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I compared it to a professional wattage thing and it was the same

kind robin
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He doesn't have a $1000 gpu

violet harness
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Huh?

sinful hornet
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like, mate the estimated wattage for a 3070é3600 build is 379 watts

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while 3070s were crashing on 750W power supplies sometimes

violet harness
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The wattage for a founders 3080 is 340 around there

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It also depends on your whole build what psu you should buy 😂 the gpu doesn’t determine everything

sinful hornet
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mate

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what did you say the wattage for the 3080 wasÉ

clear viper
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....

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some say yes to 750 other say no.... 😦

viral ore
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it depends on the 750w psu

violet harness
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Founders

viral ore
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thats how much heat it outputs

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not power consumption

sinful hornet
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but you do realise that if you try to run it on a 320W psu it wont work lmao

violet harness
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Oh

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but you do realise that if you try to run it on a 320W psu it wont work lmao
@sinful hornet no crap

viral ore
violet harness
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Smfh

polar anvil
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instead of 1660 super what should i get

sinful hornet
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"it shows estimated wattage for the whole build"

polar anvil
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equalivlent

still roostBOT
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Reaper lol#6755 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

violet harness
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"it shows estimated wattage for the whole build"
@sinful hornet it does

viral ore
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peak draw when gaming is 350

violet harness
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MAKE A PCPP LIST

viral ore
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peak under a sustained load like furmark is 370

sinful hornet
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mate i did

viral ore
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plan on 370w for a 3080 founders

violet harness
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stop calling me mate Jesus Christ

viral ore
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hes obv Australian

sinful hornet
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canadian

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lul

viral ore
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bruh stop calling him mate

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lmao

sinful hornet
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nah mate

clear viper
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evga

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EVGA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

sinful hornet
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should be plenty for a 5700, was it?

viral ore
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the rog strix 3080 has a 450w power limit

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well, the 3090 does too, in asus' case

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so PSU requirements also depend on the specific ampere card you get

violet harness
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Dude ur so annoying

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When someone says to stop, stop

clear viper
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k thanks

sinful hornet
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who

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me?

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lmao

violet harness
viral ore
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"Estimated"

violet harness
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Yeah ik

viral ore
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not "Actual"

sinful hornet
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we were already over this, is that not the estimated heat output

stoic island
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Also

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PCPP sometimes don't have data for some parts

violet harness
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THAT SAYS WATTAGE SMFH

stoic island
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so it'll be 0

violet harness
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“ESTIMATED WATTAGE” NOT HEAT OUTPUT

viral ore
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mate, do you even know what wattage is?

raw mist
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hey guys i made a budget build for a friend can u guys give me suggestions quickly

stoic island
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and TDP is an underestimate

sinful hornet
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in that case, please try running a 3080 off of 269W

#

quite curious as to what would explode first

violet harness
#

IM TALKING ABOUT MY BUILD NOT A 3080

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JESUS CHRIST

sinful hornet
#

ok then whats your build?

stoic island
#

@raw mist let's see

violet harness
#

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

stoic island
#

first 4 parts, why?

raw mist
#

@stoic island thanks man

sinful hornet
#

and im guessing you didnt go with a 300W power supply

viral ore
#

NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS
@violet harness then we cant help you you dense cabbage

stoic island
#

GPU and case are fine, PSU can be cheaper

#

EVGA BA or whatever it's called has been cheap recently

violet harness
#

and im guessing you didnt go with a 300W power supply
@sinful hornet no crap Sherlock I went for double

raw mist
#

@stoic island k, what psu? also the ssd, cpu, mobo and ram are for budget

stoic island
#

look man

sinful hornet
#

well in that case, if pcpp says that its only going to use 269W, why didnt you go with a 300W psu?

#

lmao

stoic island
#

3100+B550m hdv+Aegis 3200c16+MP34

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simple combo

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:P

violet harness
#

@violet harness then we cant help you you dense cabbage
@viral ore I’m not the one asking for help smh

viral ore
#

then go away

stoic island
#

2600+b450m has a bit of merit, but ram and ssd need to get changed either way

violet harness
#

then go away
@viral ore no lol

viral ore
#

then stop getting upset?

#

maybe?

raw mist
#

2600+b450m has a bit of merit, but ram and ssd need to get changed either way
@stoic island what ram and ssd shud i put?

weak field
stoic island
violet harness
#

well in that case, if pcpp says that its only going to use 269W, why didnt you go with a 300W psu?
@sinful hornet just because the estimated wattage says a specific number doesn’t mean I should go for exactly that psu number

viral ore
sinful hornet
#

;-;

#

isnt that what you were telling me earlier?

#

i know that its not true, i was just trying to use your logic

violet harness
#

All I’m trying to say is, pcpp is a decent wattage estimator 🤦🏻‍♂️

weak field
#

yes

sinful hornet
#

but its not

stoic island
#

it's a TDP estimator

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when it has the values

sinful hornet
#

because if it was, why wouldnt you have gone with a 300W psu

stoic island
#

don't take the estimate as straight up truth

#

spikes happen

sinful hornet
#

if its "only" using 269W

violet harness
#

because if it was, why wouldnt you have gone with a 300W psu
@sinful hornet room for upgrade

sinful hornet
#

k den

deep skiff
#

just slap a 1600w t2 in there and call it a night

violet harness
#

I NEVER SAID IT WAS ONLY GONNA USE THE ESTIMATED WATTAGE

#

Jesus Christ

sinful hornet
#

then its not an accurate wattage estimator

viral ore
violet harness
#

IT SAYS ESTIMATED

viral ore
#

just ignore it

#

its a useless number

violet harness
#

ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ACCURATE IF IT SAYS ESTIMATED

viral ore
#

it means nothing

sinful hornet
#

thats what i do most of the time

viral ore
#

i never look at it

sinful hornet
#

because ive always seen it as too low to make any sense

violet harness
stoic island
#

no

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you can't

#

do the research and the calculations yourself smh

violet harness
#

Why?

viral ore
#

its easier

stoic island
#

that's the easiest way to be sure

violet harness
#

There’s a basic version

viral ore
#

(video card name) power consumption

violet harness
#

Just as easy

viral ore
#

(cpu name) power consumption

stoic island
#

@violet harness because the thing is

viral ore
#

literally google it

stoic island
#

they don't use real values

#

you see how they use TDP?

#

what if you want a 10900k full load

#

105w tdp

#

that'll tell ya

sinful hornet
#

lmao that website just reccomended me a 450W psu for a 3600/3070 system

stoic island
#

bug with a slight all core, 300w power draw

#

just from the chip

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

better do quickly do the calculations yourself

violet harness
viral ore
#

lmao that website just reccomended me a 450W psu for a 3600/3070 system
@sinful hornet i mean, if you had a really good 450w psu, it would work

stoic island
#

@violet harness wheee power rating

#

is that the PL?

#

:D

sinful hornet
#

yea, like a titanuim or smth

stoic island
#

PL can be up to like 500w on a ftw3 and crap

deep skiff
#

3950x 2080 ti op 450w @viral ore

stoic island
#

more like 400 but it's up there

sinful hornet
#

where a 1000W would prolly be cheaper lmao

stoic island
#

@violet harness but do know, different models of cards can have different power limits

#

from a hardware locked ventus 3x with like a 320w PL

#

to a ftw3 with just vbios limitting it to somewhere in the 400s for PL

violet harness
#

Gotta eat dinner now

weak field
#

umm

neon crest
#

Looking for advice here. My current build is 8 years old. So far my thermals hold just fine, typically under 60 degrees Celsius, games like Control run at a steady 60fps on high settings. My main worry here is the age of the components. I've been considering upgrading just the GPU, but I'm afraid of bottlenecks.

#

I've been considering an RTX 30 series card (assuming they ever become available before two or three more generations of GPUs come about).

earnest olive
#

@neon crest yeah you are definitely going to need to upgrade everything if you want to go for a 3070 or higher

sinful hornet
#

i mean, yes its going to bottleneck but theres no way that i know of that it can get worse performance

neon crest
#

Any particular bottlenecks?

true kindle
earnest olive
#

3570K is not going to hold up at all

true kindle
#

rate it

sinful hornet
#

"124"

earnest olive
#

the 3770K is the best chip your motherboard can take and it's still gonna bottleneck a 3070

#

so you'd need a new motherboard, new cpu, and new ram

#

storage/case may be reusable

#

cooler/fans as well

#

power supply depends

#

if you're worried about age then you probably want to replace it if it's like 8 years old

neon crest
#

650W.... I hear it may not be sufficient.

earnest olive
#

650W is enough on paper

#

but wattage doesn't say anything about the quality of the unit

sinful hornet
#

im going 750 just to be safe

#

750 bronze

earnest olive
#

there are good 650W units and bad 1000W units

neon crest
#

Oh, I won't cheap out on the PSU, that's for sure.

earnest olive
#

if you wanna give me a budget and which parts you intend to reuse then i can make a list

#

LGA1155 cooler is compatible with modern intel and should be adaptable to modern AMD depending on which cooler

#

some companies offer mounting hardware for older coolers

#

like noctua

neon crest
#

I most definitely want a Noctua. Ugly brown fan and all.

earnest olive
#

oh you'd just buy a new cooler?

neon crest
#

Absolutely. If I do a new build, all I'm keeping is my case and fans.

earnest olive
#

if you have an air cooler on the cpu it should be fine to reuse, liquid cooler i would replace after 8 years

sharp steeple
#

Hello Everyone new to building can I ask for advice hearnregarding a power suppy?

earnest olive
#

just ask your question

#

don't ask if you can ask your question

sinful hornet
#

its funny how much people do that

#

never really thought about it

sharp steeple
#

Sorry wanted to make sure rule wise. I just purchased a 650w power suppy for my current pc is that all I need to power a graphics card

earnest olive
#

depends

#

on which power supply it is and what the system looks like

#

there are graphics cards that run on 30W and there are graphics cards that run up to 450W

sharp steeple
#

Okay ill send a picture of it

earnest olive
#

a model name would be more useful

sharp steeple
#

Corsair 650w i believe

earnest olive
#

if you just bought it you should be able to find it in order history

sharp steeple
#

Cx 650m

#

Does that make sense? New to this lol

earnest olive
sharp steeple
#

Yup!

earnest olive
#

it's alright, more of a budget option, not particularly good or bad

#

should be fine up to RTX 3070, 3080 is a bit iffy

sharp steeple
#

So fhe rtx 3070 is my bèst option with this?

earnest olive
#

well i would say that's the maximum i would think about running on it

sharp steeple
#

And will that run tarkov?

neon crest
#

Hi @earnest olive , I'm back. I am saving money still, but the goal is to build when I get to around 2K. I want to avoid unnecessary costs like RGB (I don't mind if it's there on a good quality component, but I do mind if I'm paying double the price of a same-performance non-RGB component. I prefer durable over pretty.

I don't dislike my current system, but like I said, the age of the components is a factor.

true kindle
#

cpu ryzen 9

gpu rtx 3080

ram 124

ssd 1tb

water cooled coscum build

total price 500 pirate coins

earnest olive
#

~75 FPS at 1080p ultra, ~120 FPS at 1080p low

#

@true kindle spamming the same thing isn't funny

#

nobody's laughing

true kindle
#

i just wanted u to rate it

sharp steeple
#

Would i be able to run and stream with that?

true kindle
#

yeas

#

yes

sharp steeple
#

Not that

earnest olive
#

@neon crest makes sense, better to make a part list once you have the money though since pricing and availability changes frequently

#

just come back here when you have the money and someone should be able to help you

sharp steeple
#

Sorry need to learn to @

earnest olive
#

yes, you can stream with that

sharp steeple
#

Im looking at 500$ canadian

earnest olive
#

total budget?

#

or gpu

sharp steeple
#

Just for card

earnest olive
#

either way RTX 3070 is considerably more than that

#

at that budget you'd get the most performance out of a used 2070 super from someone looking to upgrade

sharp steeple
#

I figured current find a price i was just asking if that was the max. And thank you!

true kindle
#

insain pc

sharp steeple
#

Nice first experience here then

true kindle
#

its my leg

earnest olive
#

they're banned now

#

anyways

#

if you're looking for new only, you probably want to consider a 2060 super or 2060, but they're not terrific value right now as the 3060/3060Ti aren't out yet so their prices haven't dropped

#

if you don't mind used then a 2070 super or 1080ti would be great

sharp steeple
#

Would you recommend taking advantage of the new egg sale

earnest olive
#

which one?

sharp steeple
#

Tried to wrap my head around it earlier

earnest olive
#

i am not canadian or affiliated with newegg

sharp steeple
#

Ah sorry!!! Ill check now!

earnest olive
#

no worries

#

ping me when you're back i'll be working on something

sinful hornet
#

canada gang

sharp steeple
#

Are these items goo on that power supply and can it run and stream tarkov or what more do i need?

sinful hornet
#

only really need 16gb of ram

violet harness
#

Depends on your use of the pc

#

But yeah if it’s just gaming

#

16gb is enough

sinful hornet
#

gaming and streaming

#

16gb should be enough

#

unless its like, star citizen or whatever that one was

violet harness
#

I just said that

#

😂

earnest olive
#

16GB is enough for games that aren't FS2020, especially if you're on a budget

violet harness
#

My build gets like over 100fps on warzone

earnest olive
#

a 1660Ti is good for an average of about 100 FPS at competitive settings in tarkov

sinful hornet
#

also, you said just gaming

violet harness
#

@earnest olive this is good for the price right

sinful hornet
#

they said gaming and streaming

earnest olive
#

as for whether or not the 1660Ti is worth it, you may want to check deals on 1660 supers instead, they are usually significantly cheaper without losing significant performance

sinful hornet
#

what, you dont know mike?

earnest olive
#

@sinful hornet it should be able to handle streaming as well

sinful hornet
#

everyone knows mike!

#

yea, thats what i was saying anyways

earnest olive
#

ram usage in tarkov appears to hover around 13GB

#

for total system

sinful hornet
#

wow

#

thats...

violet harness
earnest olive
#

when i used to stream i didn't recall seeing significant ram usage from OBS

sinful hornet
#

a lot

earnest olive
#

build is fine, i would recommend paying a little more for a SN750 over the crucial p1, it's worth it imo

violet harness
#

For speed?

earnest olive
#

for pretty much everything

#

sequential speed, random speed, write endurance

#

crucial p1 isn't bad but the sn750 is not much more

violet harness
#

What’s ur specs

earnest olive
#

usually a toss up between sn750 and mp34 in the budget-midrange ssd category, but mp34 seems to be significantly more expensive in canada right now

violet harness
#

For ur pc

earnest olive
#

my pc right now is a bit garbage because i'm waiting for new parts

violet harness
#

Eh I still wanna see

little osprey
#

Thoughts on this? Just ordered the parts last night

#

Best I could do with current prices

violet harness
#

Lul before you order the parts ask

solar sedge
#

I have a question, is it common in canada for 8gb of ram to cost $100+

whole harbor
#

LOL

#

Unorder some

sinful hornet
#

pokefighter, no

earnest olive
whole harbor
#

just no

#

Geta 3070 pls

sinful hornet
#

16gb costs aroud 80$ here for a cheaper kit

#

around $110 for one with rgb

little osprey
#

Lol get a 3070

#

I dont have 899$

earnest olive
#

@little osprey would recommend cancelling that ssd and cpu

whole harbor
#

Its $500

violet harness
#

around $110 for one with rgb
@sinful hornet nope lol

sinful hornet
#

what?

whole harbor
#

WTF IS THE 3600 price rn

violet harness
#

Corsair rgb pro in cad is a 100$

little osprey
#

Why are they bad?

#

I was gonna get regular 3600

violet harness
#

WTF IS THE 3600 price rn
@whole harbor it’s bloated

little osprey
#

But overpriced

earnest olive
#

3600X isn't bad but you're way overpaying for it

little osprey
#

Rather pay extra

sinful hornet
#

ok well, sorry i was $10 over

earnest olive
#

3600XT is cheaper than that right now even

little osprey
#

For the X

sinful hornet
#

last time i checked, thats what the prices were at

little osprey
#

What is the XT?

earnest olive
#

if you are gonna pay that much might as well get the 3600XT for cheaper

little osprey
#

Is it better than the X?

earnest olive
#

very slightly

#

but it's cheaper

violet harness
#

I say you don’t need a cooler the stock will work fine

earnest olive
#

the ram is okay, it's not bad, you could get better performance for slightly higher price, but it's not bad

#

well

#

i would disagree as a 3600X owner

#

the stock cooler is fine yes

#

but you also get enough bonus performance and quiet from a $30 cooler that it's worth it

violet harness
#

@little osprey what are you using the machine for

little osprey
#

Gaming

#

Squad

#

Tarkov

#

Etc

#

Got a 1080p 144hz monitor to go with it

violet harness
#

Yeah for 30$ less you could stick with the stock cooler

trail shuttle
#

What’s a good psu 650w anyone have any suggestions

little osprey
#

But overall not a bad build right?

earnest olive
#

like i said if you just ordered i would cancel the cpu and ssd

little osprey
#

Too late I think

earnest olive
#

the cpu is just overpriced, the ssd is genuinely bad

little osprey
#

Already shipped

#

Whats wrong with WD SSD

earnest olive
#

if you ordered from amazon they're very lenient about cancelling

#

it's not about the brand, it's about the product

little osprey
#

Nah 90% is from newegg

#

Cause no Tax in my state

earnest olive
#

WD makes good stuff, they also make bad stuff

little osprey
#

Amazon charges 8.5% tax

#

So that sapphire was really like 350

#

Big oof

#

Wanted a decent 2060 and 2070 but no way in hell im paying 450+ for a 300$ card

earnest olive
#

it's not like, TERRIBLE that it won't even work

#

but it's not good

little osprey
#

Slow?

earnest olive
#

costs like $5 more to get a really good one

little osprey
#

I was gonna gonna get a M.2

#

But idk if my mobo supports it

earnest olive
#

it does

little osprey
#

And some people on Reddit said that 500gb sata is faster than m.2

earnest olive
little osprey
#

Idk how true that is

earnest olive
#

lol

#

m.2 is not even an electrical standard

little osprey
#

First build so idk anything

earnest olive
#

there is m.2 sata

#

but m.2 pcie4 can be up to 15 times as fast as sata

still roostBOT
#
GrimmRx#3128 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
#

Oops

whole harbor
#

Amd alr got rx 7000??

earnest olive
#

m.2 is merely a physical standard

whole harbor
#

bruhhh

little osprey
#

Should have asked here before I ordered

#

No biggie tho

earnest olive
#

either way i've found reddit to be a peculiar dichotomy

whole harbor
#

U can cancel orders

#

;-;

earnest olive
#

there are a lot of people who are well informed on reddit

little osprey
#

From Newegg?

earnest olive
#

and a lot of people who know literally nothing but speak very loud

#

there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of in between on there

#

it gets especially bad when the subject is overclocking

little osprey
#

Is it worth overclocking the 3600X for what I need?

#

Or just leave the 3.8ghz

earnest olive
#

if you're gaming, PBO is better than manual overclocking

#

PBO is just AMD's intelligent boost algorithm

#

with limits unlocked

#

i have a 3600X with a frankly overkill cooler and motherboard

#

best possible manual overclock is 4.2GHz all core @1.238V, which is a pretty decent sample

#

PBO will reach 4175MHz all core in heavy synthetic loads but up to 4425MHz in gaming

little osprey
#

What are your temps like doing that? I wanna keep my stuff as cool as possible for longevity hence the case

earnest olive
#

well i'd better give you the temps i had with my old CM 212

#

since you are getting a CM 212

astral swift
#

9900k or 5600x since they're practically the same price rn?

earnest olive
#

room ambient: 22-25C
idle + power saver mode: 38-43C
idle + balanced mode: 47-60C
cinebench r20: 74C peak
prime95 small ffts (avx on): 85C sustained

astral swift
#

i mean 5600x

earnest olive
#

@astral swift "same price" is a bit deceptive, the 9900K demands a stronger motherboard and cooling than the 5600X does

#

5600X will happily run on a $70 motherboard and stock cooler if you so desire

astral swift
#

true, but 2 less cores is not preferable to productivity

earnest olive
#

do the same thing with a 9900K and you might end up with a nuclear reactor

astral swift
#

LOL

#

true that

earnest olive
#

5600X is not far behind the 9900K in productivity despite 2 less cores

#

the 9900K still has a lead

#

but it's not that high

#

6 stronger cores vs. 8 weaker cores

astral swift
#

i mean if im going for full on productivity on a budget id get a 2700x

earnest olive
#

5600X beats 2700X in productivity by quite a bit

astral swift
#

even in octa core?

little osprey
#

Where did you even find a 5600x? All sold out where I looked

earnest olive
#

core count does not mean everything

little osprey
#

Was gonna buy one but aint none

earnest olive
#

consider a 16 core opteron from 2011

astral swift
#

well obv FX and opteron and pentium cores are severely underpowered compared to today

#

but Ryzen 2700x was only like

earnest olive
#

would you rather have 6 mercedes or 16 flintstones cars

astral swift
#

2 yrs ago

#

it's more like 6 mercedes vs 16 hondas

#

or rather

earnest olive
#

yes and zen+ is a much weaker architecture than even zen 2 let alone zen 3

astral swift
#

6 mercedes vs 7 hondas

earnest olive
#

the 2700X is pretty much toe to toe with the 3600 in productivity

#

let alone the 5600X

#

don't look too much at core count look at benchmarks

astral swift
#

2700x is better than 3600 in productivity

#

just dont know if it's worth the premium to jump to a 5600x

earnest olive
astral swift
#

since it's a 100$ price diff

earnest olive
astral swift
#

i mean i see your point on getting a 5600x

earnest olive
#

zen+ is significantly weaker than zen 2 and zen 3

astral swift
#

but i still think that AMD is pricing their stuff at a premium now

earnest olive
#

well, yes

#

nobody said AMD has to be the budget option forever

astral swift
#

im just too used to seeing AMD as a budget option lol

earnest olive
#

if they have a premium product why can't they have a premium price?

astral swift
#

theres a lot of discounts on intel that make it more favorable now

#

but yeah ig ill have to look at total price including mobo & cooler

still roostBOT
#
GrimmRx#3128 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
#

Dang

earnest olive
#

you're going to want to pair a 9900K with at least a mid range Z390 board for it to make sense

little osprey
#

What I said was IMO AMD is beating the crap out of Intel

#

And with the 6000 series might even take out Nvidia

earnest olive
#

and at least a CM 212 for running stock, or NH-D15S or better for overclocking

astral swift
#

cm 212 is like 35 right

#

and cheaper z390s tend to be on lower 100 range

earnest olive
#

30-45 depending on fluctuation and rgb or not

little osprey
#

29.99 on Newegg right now

#

Free shipping

#

For the black edition at least

earnest olive
#

something like this would be good for the 9900K

little osprey
#

Ooof

earnest olive
#

if you're on a budget the 5600X is still a better option

little osprey
#

I refuse to spend more than like 120 on a mobo

#

Idk I just cant justify it

earnest olive
#

due to the lower requirements for cooling and VRMs

#

i bought a $150 mobo like 2 weeks ago and i'm very happy with it

#

upgraded from a B450 tomahawk max to a B550 aorus elite, gives me peace of mind knowing that if i want a 5950X i can do it

little osprey
#

Do the new processors not work with B450?

#

Thought there was a bios update coming that would allow it

earnest olive
#

oh the B450 tomahawk max will certainly support zen 3

#

but worse vrms, no pcie 4, no SAM

fossil halo
#

yo

#

just a random question

#

how much does it cost to water cool a pc

#

like a super intricate water cooling sort of thing

little osprey
#

You can get a decent AIO for like 100

#

Oh

#

That idk

fossil halo
#

like the type of stuff u see in build-pics

earnest olive
#

custom loops?

#

price depends a lot on what kind of components you put in it

#

can be >600

fossil halo
#

like

#

let say

#

u were to cool a threadripper and 2 3090s

#

and isnt like water coolig super wuiet

#

quiet

#

bc im watching this video of like some dude comparing the mac pro to a threadripper pc

#

and the gist of the video is

astral swift
#

2 3090s jeebus

fossil halo
#

the threadripper beats the mac in every way shape form and fashion

#

just

#

its l o u d

#

so i though that water cooling could fix that right

#

and i dont think water cooling would cost 10k more

glass depot
#

Guys

#

What’s a good but affordable cooler for a ryzen 7 3700

#

I was gonna use the stock one but it seems like nobody uses it

earnest olive
#

stock cooler is perfectly adequate

weak field
#

not for ocing tho

fossil halo
#

amd stock cooler is poggers

#

^

weak field
#

its fine for normal use

fossil halo
#

yea what kermit said

earnest olive
#

i've done 2-3 builds with the ryzen 7 3700x using stock cooler and overclocking

fossil halo
#

😮

earnest olive
#

stock cooler was perfectly fine for 4.2ghz all core 1.25V

weak field
#

this carrot tastes like soap

glass depot
#

What if I wanna OC

#

😔

weak field
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4.2ghz

glass depot
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I wish I spoke computer

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I’ll prob stick with it

weak field
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4.2ghz is alot

glass depot
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I somehow got a 3070

weak field
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thats like 4 whole ghz and a fifth of a ghz

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noice

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which model?

earnest olive
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my principle with stock coolers is

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use it first.. upgrade if unsatisfied

glass depot
earnest olive
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basically i overclocked it to the safe voltage limit (1.238-1.262V depending on the chip) and it was still fine in prime95 small ffts (the heaviest cpu load)

glass depot
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it was SO DAMN EXPENSIVE IN CAD

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Almost made me not get it

fossil halo
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woah

glass depot
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my principle with stock coolers is
@earnest olive tanks

earnest olive
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the stock cooler is quite impressive on the 3700X

glass depot
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Ok awesomee

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Should I apply thermal paste?

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I heard I should and shouldn’t

earnest olive
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the stock paste is okay, if you have thermal paste on hand you can use it

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it comes with paste pre-applied and that paste does a fine job

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but you can use better paste if desired

glass depot
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Yeah it does

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Ok!!

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It’s only like $10 for some so

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I might as well I guess

earnest olive
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i build very often so i buy bulk arctic mx-4

glass depot
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Arctic mx-4

earnest olive
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bought an 8g syringe for $12 that should be enough for 20+ builds

glass depot
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Damn wth

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Would I have to wipe the old stuff off

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Bc if I do I’m gonna flop

earnest olive
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yes, avoid mixing thermal paste

sinful hornet
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im just hoping the stock paste that comes with the gammax gt isnt too bad lul

glass depot
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Oh ok

fossil halo
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is building a pc hard

sinful hornet
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its the paper condiment bad paste

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no

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advanced legos

earnest olive
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the difficulty of building a pc depends on what you're trying to do

fossil halo
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isnt cable management like hard tho

glass depot
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The cables seem so complicated

fossil halo
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^

weak field
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and if you have fingers

earnest olive
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exotic custom loops inside a small form factor case? yes it'll be hard

glass depot
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And I wanna buy extensions but that seems like even more work

sinful hornet
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dont necessarily need to cable manage

earnest olive
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bog standard air cooled build in a mid tower? super easy

sinful hornet
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and cable management is really just making sure the stuff fits inside the case and isnt coming out lul

glass depot
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wth is a custom looo

little osprey
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@glass depot how much was it in CAD

fossil halo
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no like

glass depot
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☹️

fossil halo
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i have a build

earnest olive
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especially once you have practice

glass depot
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The 3070?

fossil halo
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and ima build it soon

little osprey
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yes

fossil halo
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but im spooked

sinful hornet
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the ventus 2x is 750 i think

glass depot
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860 ☺️

sinful hornet
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what

fossil halo
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bc its micro atx

sinful hornet
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oh

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after tax

earnest olive
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this one i knocked out in 45 minutes flat including cable management

fossil halo
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and isnt smol hard

glass depot
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Yeah without it’s like 600

fossil halo
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😮

glass depot
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Tax is SO GRIMY

sinful hornet
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0.13 in ontario

glass depot
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bruh..

little osprey
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Tax is rough

glass depot
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Bc Is the worst

sinful hornet
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0.15 in new brunswick i think

little osprey
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600 is good price that tax ADDS 200 USD LMAO kekw

earnest olive
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but for a first build 3 hours is pretty normal

glass depot
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GST and PST is so high

little osprey
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Turned my 1k build into like 1100

weary portal
stoic island
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wrong link

earnest olive
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pro tip.. if you have an account you can configure pcpartpicker to automatically add tax to the price

stoic island
weary portal
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my bad rip

glass depot
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Whew

fossil halo
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pro tip.. if you have an account you can configure pcpartpicker to automatically add tax to the price
@earnest olive :0 how teach me senpai

glass depot
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Y’all how many fans could I fit in my nzxt h150

sinful hornet
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all the wifi apparently

earnest olive
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nzxt h510 is best left with the stock fans

slender owl
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Reasonably?

glass depot
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SRSLY

earnest olive
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you can add 2 fans to the front

sinful hornet
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also, i just wish you could set your account to a specific currency

earnest olive
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but the case is designed for negative pressure, it's horrible with traditional airflow

fossil halo
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and its not ugly

glass depot
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Oh

sinful hornet
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cause every time i open it i have to change the currency to cad

earnest olive
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if you want to make pcpartpicker automatically calculate tax

fossil halo
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and for ram

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get corsair ram

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from frys

earnest olive
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go to your profile, click the account tab, then click "merchants & pricing"

fossil halo
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oh ok

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wait

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lemme do that

earnest olive
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fill in the tax rate

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and it'll auto calculate

glass depot
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Wait which b450 has wifi