building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

I care about performance

I care about not being a cash sink

[urban light]

I care about that too but I also want it to look good

[stoic island]

t d 5 0 0 m e s h

l a n c o o l i i m e s h

p 5 0 0 a

[urban light]

Ok apart from the case

[stoic island]

:P

[urban light]

What’s better
In the lian li Pcmr edition
White
Black
Black with white accents
Black white chrome
Which one

[stoic island]

@olive breach lot of msi eh

I'm going to make some edits

[olive breach]

yh theres a cashback offer, so ill get like £50 something back

[stoic island]

What do you need PCIe 4.0 drive for

is quite unnecessary and overpriced for most people

[olive breach]

just gonna put the os, gamings and editing stuff on it

[stoic island]

then I'd just substitute in a PCIe 3.0 drive

[olive breach]

probs is unnecessary, but i want to sort of future proof as its my first pc. What should it be used for then?

[stoic island]

hm?

there's basically no workloads that can even utilize it

very very few

[olive breach]

ah right#

[stoic island]

If you move around 50gb files as a hobby kind of thing

[olive breach]

i do like to treat myself with a bit of file moving every once in a whiile

[stoic island]

My edits : Basically same price, except with a 3080
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NpdwcT

[olive breach]

were you able to get a 3080 then?

[stoic island]

hm?

[olive breach]

if thats your build, were you able to get yourself a rtx 3080?

[solar sigil]

@ebon matrix @versed laurel my friend gave me a budget and I picked the parts! + put it all together

[stoic island]

nah, I don't personally have a need for one, but I've seen it in stock as recently as like 8 hours ago

[weak field]

jc you build it yet?

[little osprey]

Dobyou guys think this is good

[weak field]

what it be lookin like

[olive breach]

oh right, i havent bothered looking since i got a 3070 and wanted to spare myself from knowing i could get better xD

[stoic island]

I could've bought em, but I don't have the monies for that.

[stoic island]

@little osprey that's a bit spammy

try pcpartpicker if you can

[little osprey]

K

[solar sigil]

@weak field check in #build-pics i cant link to it yet lol

[weak field]

alright

[stoic island]

@little osprey only issue I see is with that case :P

[little osprey]

How

[stoic island]

H510

bad airflow

[olive breach]

hows the airflow in the case i linked?

[weak field]

how much was the 1070?

[stoic island]

the MSI one in the first list?

dunno

[olive breach]

i didnt really do much research on it, just saw i on offer

yeh

[solar sigil]

220 i think

[nocturne carbon]

wow when i finally deicde to switch to pc gaming, a pandemic strikes and all the parts price increase

[solar sigil]

got it slightly used

[stoic island]

usually the 'gaming' cases from other brands are bad

[ebon matrix]

so @solar sigil u didnt get anything?

[weak field]

smart

[stoic island]

as in asus msi gigabyte nd stuff

[weak field]

oh dang, might have to cop on

[nocturne carbon]

literally other than the psu everything cost min $100

[solar sigil]

I got some shine 😉

[still roost]

JackChissy#0941 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[weak field]

😳

[olive breach]

gonna have my 5900x suffocating

[weak field]

yeah

[stoic island]

The brands that's actually had experience making cases is nice

[weak field]

“help i cant breath”

[olive breach]

oh well, ill be gaming at 1080p so hopefully it wont die too soon #

[solar sigil]

@little osprey I would agree with Mr111 here but if you have the extra cash may look into AIO to cool your processor

[stoic island]

no need smh

AIOs are meh

[weak field]

look nice

if you have the extra money go for it

but if not the stock cooler with ryzen is fine 😎

[stoic island]

It doesn't cool better than air coolers by any real margins.

[little osprey]

Bruh i didnt mean to send that

[solar sigil]

lol

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FMppHz

32 gbs or 16

[weak field]

😳

just a lil bit of tuning

[stoic island]

why team ram

smh

get 3600c16

[little osprey]

Idk

Ok

[weak field]

tforce delta the only good one

[olive breach]

gotta got for16 on that surely

[weak field]

53$ for 16gb 3200mhz cl18

decent

[solar sigil]

104.99 for 650w seems a little high right?

[weak field]

yeah

[stoic island]

wdym

oh yea for a EVGA GT it is

[little osprey]

Its 80 plus gold

[stoic island]

get a Phanteks amp 650w

[solar sigil]

53$ for 16gb 3200mhz cl18
whats the difference between cl16 and cl18?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rd6d9N

[olive breach]

response time

cl16 is faster latency

[solar sigil]

18 is better?

[stoic island]

@little osprey efficiency rating doesn't mean quality

@solar sigil 3600c18 = 3200c16 in first word read

[little osprey]

Ok

[solar sigil]

ah

[stoic island]

latency matters.

[weak field]

cheaper gpus for that performance point aswell

[shell crown]

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to offer some tech support? I just build a PC and I'm having trouble getting it to work. 😦

[solar sigil]

Whats wrong with it

[stoic island]

sure

[weak field]

👍

[solar sigil]

I havent really heard anything about the 5600

is it good?

[stoic island]

It beats 10900k in most games

so yes.

5600x is good.

[solar sigil]

sorry 5600xt*

the gpu not processor

[shell crown]

I put it together and am trying to install windows 10 on it from a flash drive from my home PC. As it's loading in the little circle stops moving after a few loops and it stops progress there. https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/pd/32096834 - should be all the parts.

[stoic island]

5600xt? basically a 2060

[shell crown]

It's just supposed to be a little thing for my work.

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ML2nt8

How bout this

[solar sigil]

Galdalf, Have you tried using a known good USB ?

[stoic island]

well I have other concerns about the part choices.... but It should theoretically boot still

[shell crown]

It'

It's a brand new usb

[stoic island]

@little osprey wd blue as a m.2 ssd is kinda bad

[little osprey]

can someone add good case and fans at a respectable price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9zH2V

[stoic island]

Also, I don't know if a520 supports ryzen 3000 apus

[shell crown]

It will never play a video game, it's literally just going to be on a web browser, and printing things it's whole life. My boss wanted it cheap.

[stoic island]

I don't think the board supports the cpu
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/A520M-A-PRO#support-cpu

but the rest of the parts are eh...

underwhelming at best

for example, TT smart 80+ is a PSU that's known for really bad failures

[shell crown]

It's supposed to be 😅

[stoic island]

like

[shell crown]

damn

[stoic island]

burning up kinda failures

CX1 is dramless, bad SSD too

@shell crown I'd try to get like a b450 board or a320 board and try at least, because I don't think A520 supports 3000 APUs

[shell crown]

So in order to get this thing running, I'll need to replace something, I was reading and I could have sworn they all matched, I was looking for onboard graphics to save money

Thanks!

[little osprey]

So what m.2

[stoic island]

@little osprey try Team MP34

[little osprey]

K

Could uou make a list for 1050

[stoic island]

pricing recently is really bad for online retailers

[dense basalt]

ryzen 3 3100 or ryzen 5 2600x????

[stoic island]

so like this thing maybe, swap out the 512gb ssd for 1tb @little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/qn9H23

pricing all wacky tho

[dense basalt]

ryzen 3 3100 or ryzen 5 2600x????

[stoic island]

for doing what

gaming 3100

[dense basalt]

im just gaming

not streaming

[solar sigil]

gamer

[little osprey]

does anyone know good case and good fans

[solar sigil]

Noctua fans?

[dense basalt]

just go look at corsair

they are expensive

[little osprey]

at a respectable price

Beuh when is the 3070 gonna come out

[stoic island]

Noctua fans are better than corsair fans

[dense basalt]

corsair

[stoic island]

no doubt about it

[dense basalt]

ye

[stoic island]

@little osprey already out smh

[dense basalt]

but noctua are expensive

[stoic island]

Corsair is more expensive lmao

find me a corsair fan under 25$

let's say match the price of this fan
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nf-p12-redux-1300-pwm-case-fan/p/1YF-000T-000K2

I'm waiting >:D

@little osprey how about this
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1543118-REG/cougar_mx330_g_air_gaming_mid_tower.html/BI/19488/KBID/11704

3 fans included at 55$

[solar sigil]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-co-9050079-ww-case-fan/p/N82E16835181153

smh

[little osprey]

will micro atx board fit in that

i aam stupid

[solar sigil]

Motherboard Support ATX, Micro-ATX, Mini-ITX

[stoic island]

@solar sigil Noctua has a better fan for cheaper still >:D
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-redux-1300-high-Performance-Award-Winning-Affordable/dp/B07CG2PGVG/

[solar sigil]

ik ik lololol you asked so I had to go look

[little osprey]

i thank you all

i now build

[solar sigil]

o7 good luck

[little osprey]

i broke cpu

[solar sigil]

[timber isle]

seriously?

[solar sigil]

probably not

[timber isle]

I certainly hope not

[little osprey]

i fixed it

[solar sigil]

bent the pins back in place?

[little osprey]

pin fell off

i glue it

[solar sigil]

gg

[timber isle]

?!?!?!

that's not good

[solar sigil]

NSFPCMR

[little osprey]

i send back

[timber isle]

... you talk like this why?

[weak field]

u broke ur cpu?

[little osprey]

no

i fix

[timber isle]

...

[weak field]

wel- i suppose that could work

[next kestrel]

did it work?

[little osprey]

n

o

[next kestrel]

ok so u broke it

[solar sigil]

oof

[weak field]

rest in pieces

[ebon matrix]

u think that Nvidias RTX 3070 will go down?

[solar sigil]

not anytime soon

[arctic jungle]

? not till a ti or super card ccomes out

nvidia doesn't drive down MSRPs unless there's a new card they want people to buy

[stoic island]

maybe they mean come down as in come in stock?

[solar sigil]

especially when theres a shortage

oh

[arctic jungle]

for example the rtx 2070 dropped to ~400$ when the 2070 super comes out

maybe they mean come down as in come in stock?
@stoic island maybe

[solar sigil]

oh hey. im green now

[ebon matrix]

pog

[solar sigil]

[sonic pasture]

@stoic islandhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/pjvC68 is there another memory option that is white

[weak field]

@sonic pasture yeah

the exact same model, and theres on in rgb

[sonic pasture]

oh i found it thanks

[dusk mountain]

wegg

[cursive haven]

should i get a rog strix b450 gaming f or a asrock steel legend?

[weak field]

b450 is niiiiice

got the built in io shield and alot more features

steel legend does the job but is cheaper and less feature rich

[balmy patio]

it depends on the cpu you ahve

[cursive magnet]

Rx 6800s drop next Wednesday

[weak field]

nice

[little osprey]

gigabyte b450m or asrock b450m pro 4

[weak field]

preference honeslty

[little osprey]

no

one has to be better

[solar sigil]

One probably has a feature you want over the other

[ashen haven]

is rtx 5600 worth it?

[solar sigil]

it depends on what you want @little osprey

[little osprey]

what do i want

Can anyone make me a $1000 USD part pickers at maximum 1.2k usd with a graphics card, WiFi card, a recommended monitor with it the monitor doesn’t have to fit in budget as long as it’s affordable

[idle hawk]

She's arrived

[little osprey]

Bruh

break it ill buy ps5

I think the new Xbox is better

But PS5 looks cooler

[solar sigil]

reeeeeee consoles in a pc building channel

[little osprey]

Mortal.

[solar sigil]

reeeeeeeeeeee

[little osprey]

lol

[solar sigil]

jokes aside grats Joker

[little osprey]

I’m just trying to get someone to make me a parts picker

[idle hawk]

Lol

I'm starting to have second thoughts on selling it

[viral ore]

Can anyone make me a $1000 USD part pickers at maximum 1.2k usd with a graphics card, WiFi card, a recommended monitor with it the monitor doesn’t have to fit in budget as long as it’s affordable
@little osprey i can help

[solar sigil]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/qn9H23
@little osprey

[viral ore]

that works too

what kind of monitor are you after? something cheap? something large?

high refresh rate?

[little osprey]

144hz

[solar sigil]

10hz

[little osprey]

And $200 at most

[solar sigil]

woof

i could be very wrong but that may be tough

[little osprey]

Should I get the new Xbox instead of a $1000 pc?

or pa5

[solar sigil]

youre asking the wrong server lmao

[little osprey]

PS5

lol

[viral ore]

depends on what you need

[little osprey]

I know it’s just I wanna get a pc

[viral ore]

console only games

[little osprey]

But I Dony know

[viral ore]

PC does lots of things

[cursive magnet]

@viral ore Check this out on @Newegg: Samsung C27R500 27" Full HD 1920 x 1080 60Hz 4ms VGA HDMI FreeSync Flicker-Free Curved LED Backlit Monitor https://www.newegg.com/dark-blue-gray-samsung-cr500-lc27r500fhnxza-27/p/0JC-0007-00M69?Item=0JC-0007-00M69&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-0JC-0007-00M69-_-11102020

[viral ore]

thats crap lol

[little leaf]

nice techie @viral ore

[viral ore]

thank

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTMCNLX

[solar sigil]

https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg24vq-90lm0570-b011b0-23-6/p/N82E16824281027

[little osprey]

woah

[viral ore]

curved monitors are pretty nice

[solar sigil]

kinda small to be curved

[viral ore]

true

really good if you are looking straight into it tho

looks kinda wack at an angle

[solar sigil]

Backlit LED Slight Curved Gaming Monitor

also they show it vertical lol that feels weird

[little osprey]

PRO 4 PRICE WENT Up

WHY

[solar sigil]

what?

[little osprey]

WENT UP 20 WHOLE DOOLARS

LMAO

[solar sigil]

Pro 4?

ps 4 pro?

[little osprey]

asrock b450

[solar sigil]

oh

just wait for it to go back down

[little osprey]

i go die in hole now

[solar sigil]

i wrote a script that watches that sorta stuff for me

[vital warren]

just get a b550 pro4 if it's still 90

[solar sigil]

need to add newegg tbh

[vital warren]

actually i think its back to 115 nvm

[viral ore]

@little osprey a console would be cheaper and easier, but if you wanna build a pc, you can use it for tons of other things, so it really just depends on what you want

consoles are gonne be heavily scalped over the next few weeks tho

so it might be hard to get one

[solar sigil]

hes right

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bpsgbh

This good?

[viral ore]

but a console plus a 144hz monitor would be cheaper

[solar sigil]

forgot to mention that to my bud when he was thinking about getting an xbox

[idle hawk]

im having second thoughts of selling it now idk what to do

[viral ore]

its 1300 dollars

so way overbudget

[little osprey]

Yea?

ok

[viral ore]

3070 is overkill for 1080P@144hz

970 evo overpriced ssd

[little osprey]

b450m steel legend gud

?

[viral ore]

im sure its a fine motherboard

[solar sigil]

get a 2080 from somone used lmao

[viral ore]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tfbDqp

[jade dock]

can someone make me a pc part picker list for $600 pls

[cursive magnet]

Good airflow micro case?

[serene spire]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mtMgbh

Can someone take a look and tell me if there’s anything that can be fixed or saved price wise

I plan on getting the new amd graphics card the rtx 3080 is just place holding

[viral ore]

Good airflow micro case?
@cursive magnet FD Focus G mini

@serene spire why a 3700x?

5600x gonna come back in stock for 299 soon

[serene spire]

Also place holding

[cursive magnet]

@serene spire 6800xt will be 649

[serene spire]

Ok that’s what I plan on getting I get paid literally the day it comes out so it’ll be fun to see if I can get my hands on one

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ytdrxr/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4ac

this is a much cheaper board

just as good

[stoic island]

pg4/ac 1 m.2 slot

Get B550m pro vdh wifi :P

[viral ore]

mr1111 nooooooooooo

its mATX

[stoic island]

ha

[viral ore]

i kno im silly

[stoic island]

can't argue with 2x the m.2 slots

[viral ore]

@serene spire how much do you care about how the system looks?

also, what are the odds you get a second M.2 ssd in the future

[glossy musk]

well boys

i have a tech problem

[viral ore]

then tell us what it is

[stoic island]

@viral ore Sassy

you know

2xm.2>1xm.2

[viral ore]

but no one uses 2x M.2

[stoic island]

do you want to throw upgradability out the window?

they why don't you go b450 >:D

[viral ore]

i wouldnt tell someone to get a second nvme drive

i would say get a sata ssd

or another hdd

because its good enough

[jade dock]

wahts a good 16gb 3200 ram kit

[glossy musk]

i went into bios and set my ssd as my primary boot device but when i try to boot it says "reboot and select a proper boot device" but if i select my hdd it boots into windows fine

and i want my ssd as my boot drive

[viral ore]

you have to install windows to the ssd

[glossy musk]

if i already have in on the hdd how would i transfer it

[sharp tundra]

So most likely I won't get my gpu today

[viral ore]

macrium reflect

or you can just do a fresh install on the ssd

[glossy musk]

can i download windows onto my ssd with the media creation tool?

[viral ore]

you format a usb with the media creation tool

then boot from the usb and go through the installation process

[steel yacht]

So most likely I won't get my gpu today
@sharp tundra sucks

Bruh i gotta wait til the 27

[sharp tundra]

Well I didn't put in an apartment number in my address and UPS, even though THEY have my package right now, won't let my change the delivery address.

So I had to sit on newegg Customer support, and I don't even think they did anything cause my tracking status still shows the same thing.

[steel yacht]

Damn

[glossy musk]

so i already have windows on my pc but my hard drive is my boot device

all i wanna do is make my ssd the boot device

the pc already works

[steel yacht]

I have this old ass computer with windows 10 pro 64bit

Butt I don’t know if the key would work on my new pc

[stoic island]

Tie it to a Microsoft acc

[steel yacht]

Um

Okay

[stoic island]

Don't quite remember how it works, but you can tie the key to a Microsoft acc and activate it that way

[cursive magnet]

Only if it’s a full version not OEM

[stoic island]

Worth a try

I did it with a 4$ ebay key so

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[steel yacht]

Wait what dose oem

Mean

[sharp tundra]

Original equipment manufacturer?

No

At least I don't think so in the pc world

[fading grail]

Anyone know if this build is good for 1.7k budget? Or can I save any money anywhere without loosing performance. Also, not sure if this motherboard is good for the 5600X https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ggF8Jf

[sharp tundra]

Looks alright

[stoic island]

@fading grail it's good nuff, I'd make some slight changes tho.

[fading grail]

what should I change

[sharp tundra]

Aio is what he's gonna say

[stoic island]

Ssd

Lmao

Ssd and psu

[twilit salmon]

Any ideas on how to get these fans out without using a hammer? It’s a Antec DF500 RGB

[stoic island]

Mp34 1tb

[fading grail]

Whats wrong with them

[stoic island]

Too expensive

If you like throwing an extra 50$ at stuff, go ahead.

[sharp tundra]

@fading grail Truth is, Mr1111 doesn't like corsair or samsung, nothings wrong with them

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra I haven't even said anything about the aio yet lmao

[sharp tundra]

Yet

I know you're gonna tho

[stoic island]

At 107$ it's decent

[little osprey]

will discord affect my game

[stoic island]

Idrc, can't be bothered to talk about air cooling being superior rn

[sharp tundra]

Not if you have at least 6 core

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mvxjZZ\

will discord affect this

[fading grail]

any better psus?

[stoic island]

Revolution d.f. 850w at 130$

Multi rail with jap caps

It's a great psu

@little osprey link doesn't work btw

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mvxjZZ

[stoic island]

Yes

[little osprey]

will discord affect this

WAIT WHAT

[stoic island]

Also discord affects all builds lmao

It doesn't matter

It's still a running process

[sharp tundra]

Idrc, can't be bothered to talk about air cooling being superior rn
@stoic island aircooling is better, until you OC

[stoic island]

It affects all builds

@sharp tundra even OC

Look at nh u12a

[fading grail]

is air cooling easier to install?

ive never built a pc before

[stoic island]

Yes

Actually

Rads are annoying

[cursive wharf]

depends on case and rad tbf

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf considering complexity of something like an aio and like a nh u12a

:p

[sharp tundra]

If air cooling was superior, they would use it in cars

More often then they do

[stoic island]

They do

[sharp tundra]

More cars with rads than without them

[stoic island]

For space constraints

[sharp tundra]

By a long ahot

Okay I will admit something

There is a case where aircooling is better, but unless you want to here a jet rolling through your house, then water cooling

[cursive wharf]

okay, but is output heat incredibly high?

[stoic island]

What

@sharp tundra so you're saying air cooling is louder?

[fading grail]

why wouldnt it be

[stoic island]

Why would it be

The only thing making noise on an air cooler is the fan

[fading grail]

cause fans go woosh

[stoic island]

Look at the pump

[weak field]

[fading grail]

water go " "

[stoic island]

With a decent fan on, they can sound the same

[serene spire]

@viral ore sorry I’m at work so couldn’t reply right away looks not really mostly just white case is only requirement I have

[cursive wharf]

120mm AIO vs D15, you have more fin stack on D15. Liquid doesnt magically make heat energy go away

[sharp tundra]

Aircooling works better under faster air speeds, and in turn, louder fans due to the speed

[neat mortar]

can someone go on a call with me and show me how know if my front fans are intake and not exhaust 

[weak field]

just flip them

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf btw is grand macho still relevant?

[neat mortar]

@weak field yeah but i don’t know which way to put it

[sharp tundra]

I know this cause Mercedes F1 team rely more on aircooling cause they bank on themselves being at the front of the race

And there car suffered terrible for being stuck behind slower cars

[rich void]

I don't see how it makes any sense to compare air and water cooling in different applications

All that matters is application specific performance

[cursive wharf]

output heat is too low on a PC to really care about the magic that liquids give for cooling. So mainly it's looking at how much rad space there is.
@stoic island probably, still D15/DRP4 competitor. But I usually cap out at Mugen 5

[sharp tundra]

And I'm sure the same physics apply to PCs

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra heat doesn't just dissapear when you have an aio

@cursive wharf I mean, take a grand macho, that things huge, and just do passive lol

No noise

[sharp tundra]

I know, rads rely on air flow to disburts their heat away from the rad fins, but it doesn't take as air to do the same effect but better

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra well, if they're louder, how can you explain noise normalised testing?

[viral ore]

@serene spire https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dwt thoughts on this case?
or this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmZzK8/lian-li-lancool-ii-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-ii-mesh-rgb-white

[stoic island]

Doesn't take as air to do the same effect but better ..?

[sharp tundra]

Super efficient fans, like noctua

[stoic island]

You know that you need pressure optimised fans for rads right

[sharp tundra]

But if it wasn't for noctua, could you say any other brand could really compete against water cooling?

[stoic island]

Because slap an airflow fan on a rad, and you'll see why pressure oriented fans are made that way

@sharp tundra be quiet

Drp4

[small osprey]

Drp4

[stoic island]

What about that

[cursive wharf]

Scythe Mugen

[small osprey]

Lol exactly

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra what about cnps20x

[little leaf]

@stoic island nice on techie

[cursive wharf]

Thermalright Arrow or Grand Macho

[small osprey]

Scythe maybe not

[rich void]

Any air cooler that competes with aios is a higher end air cooler isn't it??? 😄

[stoic island]

What about scythe fuma 2

[small osprey]

Any air cooler that competes with aios is a higher end air cooler isn't it??? 😄
@rich void well duh

[stoic island]

And thermalright grand macho

That things crazy

[small osprey]

Grand macho

Lol

[rich void]

The discussion isn't stock intel cooler v. 360 rad or something

[sharp tundra]

No, aircooling vs watercooling in general

[small osprey]

Nh-d15 vs h115i

[stoic island]

@rich void both of em are very high end, there is no one winner really.

[small osprey]

Which is better

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra I'm talking in general

Is it fair to compare a 20$ cooler to a 200$ one?

[vital warren]

personally I would only go liquid for aesthetics I like air

[rich void]

@rich void both of em are very high end, there is no one winner really.
@stoic island right. I'm trying to point out that Nomad seems to be missing the point

[sharp tundra]

Thats what I said

[small osprey]

personally I would only go liquid for aesthetics I like air
@vital warren yea

[cursive wharf]

heat dissipation mostly relies on surface area and airspeed

[stoic island]

There is a case where aircooling is better, but unless you want to here a jet rolling through your house, then water cooling
@sharp tundra
What was this about then

:p

Welp

Air cooling great

Contests AIOs

[sharp tundra]

I wasn't just referring to AIOs

[stoic island]

Wat

So is the roboclocker fair game now?

[small osprey]

Lmao

[cursive wharf]

sure you can take a U12/Gammaxx 400 and compare it to a 360mm x 360mm rad, but does that win because it's liquid - or because of surface area

[stoic island]

Mhm

[rich void]

You can't really compare a custom loop to an air cooler. They're very different in terms of cost and setup.....

[small osprey]

Yea

Good air coolers are just BIG

[cursive wharf]

you can, just need to be careful about how you go about comparing them

air coolers are large, low fin density coolers. Rads are smaller, high fin density coolers

in the end come close to the same until extreme examples (such as 360x360 rad or smth)

[stoic island]

Eh, fins still the same, just relocated

[sharp tundra]

Well this originated off of how mr1111 said aircooling was better than an aio, which I agree to an extent, but then I brought up watercooling in general, and he said aircooling was still better

[cursive wharf]

nah, fin density is def higher on most rads I've seen

[rich void]

I'm referring to where Nomad said they weren't just talking about aios. The competition for an air cooler is other air coolers and aios imo. Custom loops are a very different market segment

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra this originated from a joke lmfao

Go up and read it again

[sharp tundra]

I know

[stoic island]

Sooo

[sharp tundra]

I'm not but hurt or anything, are you?

[stoic island]

I am butt hurt

Dunno from what

But my butt is hurt

[sharp tundra]

Well it may be from forces outside this chat 😉

[stoic island]

It must be

[sharp tundra]

Lol

[cursive wharf]

stop using a gaming chair

[stoic island]

Point is, air cooling superior >:D

Hei it's a wooden chair

[sharp tundra]

Conclusion, watercooling better than aircooling

[ebon matrix]

@weak field can u take the reaction off then on

[weak field]

what?

[rich void]

Hei it's a wooden chair
@stoic island get an office chair. Great investment

[weak field]

reaction to?

[cursive wharf]

wooden chair is gaming chair

[stoic island]

@rich void nah

[stoic island]

Best gaming chair

[idle hawk]

i sold that xbox series within the hour

[sharp tundra]

I will not stand for 7 hours playing games, I'm sorry

[stoic island]

Point is, air cooling dominate <100$.

[weak field]

coolermaster

[stoic island]

:D

[weak field]

many fans

[ebon matrix]

ty

[small osprey]

Point is, air cooling dominate <100$.
@stoic island yes

[sharp tundra]

Omg

[stoic island]

I'm just gonna go back to suggesting u12a yaknow

[small osprey]

Ppl say you need aio to oc 5600x

[stoic island]

Unless you have something to match

[sharp tundra]

Sure, sub $100

Only

[small osprey]

Im like no nh-d15

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra hell, gimme something to compare NH-U12a with >:F

[fading kiln]

go to 850w psu?

[stoic island]

Freezer ii only thing that contests it

Imo at least

ML sus

[cursive wharf]

get the 10 of them $9 AIO, mod it, and run all them at once

[stoic island]

Lol

@cursive wharf what kinda static pressure fan you running

A delta fan?

10 rads

[cursive wharf]

just put them side by side, dont need to stack

leave them outside of case

[stoic island]

Daisy chain?

[cursive wharf]

ye

[stoic island]

Would be in interesting mod

Daisy chain the rads off a single pump..?

That poor pump

[cursive wharf]

could daisy chain all pumps lol

[stoic island]

How does that even work lol

Pump - rad - pump - rad?

[sharp tundra]

Hey, as long as the fitting holes are in the right place

[cursive wharf]

just make sure inlets/outlets align properly. And yeah

[stoic island]

Would be funny to see an aio mod to Daisy chain them

@cursive wharf imagine using a gpu adapter and Daisy chaining AIOs for a full loop lel

[cursive wharf]

watercool chipset too

[sharp tundra]

That won't work?

[cursive wharf]

use smth like G12 adapter for GPU mount

[stoic island]

I mean

[sharp tundra]

There's alot more parts to cool on a gpu tho, how can one small little block cool fast enough?

[stoic island]

Chipset would be really hard to mount

@sharp tundra just gpu die

The rest gets small heatsinks and a fan

[cursive wharf]

liquid on GPU die, and fan for memory/VRM

[cursive magnet]

I hope this is the last beatdown before I pull the trigger, 5700 is a place holder unless I get my hands on a 6800xt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKsC68

[stoic island]

Hei, you think there's any AliExpress chipset aio adapter ..?

[sharp tundra]

Id rather just get a nice clean looking waterblook

[vital warren]

a rather expensive placeholder

[stoic island]

Nah that's too crazy even for AliExpress tho

[cursive wharf]

waterblock isnt always best

[stoic island]

corsair gpu block

[cursive wharf]

Turing usually was better under 280mm AIO until very pricy custom loop

[sharp tundra]

Shut up

Corsair hater

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf link the vid of the Corsair gpu block

This man needs to know

[sharp tundra]

I am a fan boi and I always will be

[cursive magnet]

Me too @sharp tundra

[cursive wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MjpWwP9Sno

[sharp tundra]

Atleast until other companies start making everything under the sun for pcs

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra look man

Naed ruined Corsair for me

And Corsair themselves did

The only Corsair product line I don't have any issue with is the SSD

And I have one

[cursive wharf]

wow, dont like Corsair PSUs? sad

[cursive magnet]

I’ve never had an issue with Corsair stuff. Almost 20 years of builds

[sharp tundra]

Even their cases you don't like?

[stoic island]

Hei

CXm

Coil whine

[cursive wharf]

okay but RM(x)

[stoic island]

Also the cx green label or whatever

RMx is good

Depending on price tho

Pricing isn't great

[cursive wharf]

CX needs to come back to nice pricing. Was their only truly great product in competition

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf I used to hate Team, but at least they have redeeming factor of good products for cheap.

That's true

[deep skiff]

their keyboards scare me enough to buy from them :v

[stoic island]

If cx 550 started showing up at like br 600 pricing

I'd love em

[sharp tundra]

I fell like if there was a thousandth of a cent difference in Price to perf, mr1111 would still say the cheaper one was better

[stoic island]

Yea nachos ruined Corsair keebs for me

Naed ruined Corsair headsets for me

[steel yacht]

Ok I got my key it’s home not pro lmfao

[cursive wharf]

lol what did Naed do this time?

[stoic island]

Audiophile stuff

[cursive wharf]

fair

[sharp tundra]

Naed is just a hater too

[stoic island]

Mhm

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKsC68

[deep skiff]

the only thing naed has ruined for me are my cloud 2s lmao

[cursive wharf]

but yeah, Nomad, Corsair really doesnt give much in terms of quality to price

[stoic island]

there is only 1 product that cannot be hated

https://noctua.at/en/products/accessories/na-fc1

NOTHING BEATS NA-FC1 >:P

[sharp tundra]

ASTRO A50 is best gaming headset, but I hate mine

[cursive wharf]

fan price

[stoic island]

20$ fan controller

with physical knob

with good features

overspecced

:P

[lunar thorn]

I'm looking to get an aio to replace my fan what are good aios

[stoic island]

Don't get an aio

:D

Arctic freezer ii is good

[sharp tundra]

Yes, get one

Corsair Hydro series

[stoic island]

no

[sharp tundra]

H100i

[hasty gyro]

guys what companies would you trust to buy from

[sharp tundra]

Buy it now

[stoic island]

F R E E Z E R I I

[sharp tundra]

CORSAIR

[cursive wharf]

[hasty gyro]

no i mean like, stores

[cursive wharf]

I wouldnt buy based off of company

[stoic island]

Newegg

Amazon

Best buy

B&H

[earnest olive]

@stoic island i feel like that fan controller would be best if you drill a hole into your case so it's outside of your pc lol

[sharp tundra]

Azamon

[lunar thorn]

So cosair has a good aio?

[stoic island]

meh

[cursive wharf]

Corsair has overpriced AIOs

[stoic island]

they're not great

they're overpriced

if the h150i was like 110$ yea they're good

[lunar thorn]

I saw one on newegg site is this one good

[stoic island]

but like

[earnest olive]

corsair's motto is "decent but overpriced"

[stoic island]

eh

[lunar thorn]

Check this out on @Newegg: MSI MAG CORELIQUID 360R AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 360mm Radiator, Triple 120mm PWM Fans, RGB Lighting Controlled by Software https://www.newegg.com/msi-liquid-cooling-system-mag-series/p/N82E16835846009?Item=N82E16835846009&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-35-846-009-_-11102020

[stoic island]

basically

@lunar thorn nah don't get it

[sharp tundra]

@lunar thorn don't listen to them, they're corsair haters

[earnest olive]

except their power supplies

[stoic island]

MSI's aios are not great

They use a non-standard design afaik

that doesn't perform as well thermally

[lunar thorn]

Is the kraken ones good?

[earnest olive]

i'm happy with my silverstone pf360-argb

[stoic island]

no

overpriced again

[earnest olive]

i love the design on the water block

[stoic island]

get an Arctic freezer ii

[cursive wharf]

also 280mm>360mm

if good fans

[stoic island]

Freezer ii 280mm beats most 360mm aios

[lunar thorn]

Looking for a freezer ii to look at

[stoic island]

@lunar thorn if you have cash to burn (which you do if you're tying to buy an aio), EK-AIO

[sharp tundra]

I wonder why?

[earnest olive]

my cpu is very easy to cool so i put more importance on looks lol

[sharp tundra]

^^

[stoic island]

It's so good it's out of stock lol

[sharp tundra]

Finally a techie who gets it

[earnest olive]

just wanted really quiet idle while studying

[dusty zodiac]

for cpus would Intel Core i9-9900K be better or an Intel Core i7-10700K ?

[stoic island]

here's the 240mm
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WSDLRVP/

[earnest olive]

10700K

[stoic island]

10700k

[cursive wharf]

technically not cuz binning

[sharp tundra]

Neither

[earnest olive]

unless you can get the 9900K for cheaper

[dusty zodiac]

the 9900k is cheaper

[sharp tundra]

AMD 5900x

[earnest olive]

by how much?

[dusty zodiac]

by $20

[stoic island]

Get a 5600x

[earnest olive]

if the difference is only $20 i'd prefer the 10700K over the 9900K

[stoic island]

ek-aio
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-360-d-rgb

[deep skiff]

id get 10700k or 5600x if u dont have the mobo yet

[narrow rose]

i would still go 10700k over 9900k even at a $20 difference

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island that 240mm you link a good one to get

[sharp tundra]

5600x over 10700k

[cursive wharf]

if you actually OC, 9900k

[stoic island]

280mm and 360mm are out of stock for freezer ii

[deep skiff]

yeah thats why he linked it :p

[earnest olive]

9900KS

[stoic island]

if your case only supports 240mm, it's one of, if not the best aio you can get

[narrow rose]

the 5600x is only better than the 10700k because of price not performance

[earnest olive]

the KS stands for Keep Spending

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island or the ek aio one you linked better

[stoic island]

@narrow rose but I'm a fanboy >:D
tbh it does beat it in gaming perf

@lunar thorn one word.
price.

if you want to slap more money on it

your choice

if your case supports it that is

[cursive wharf]

I mean, if ya wanna slap money, custom loop

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island price doesn't matter too much

[stoic island]

hei no

no more water leaking

[sharp tundra]

Get a thread ripper and just give the finger to intel

[narrow rose]

in Jay2cents video from today the 10700k beats the 5600x in every game he tests....

[lunar thorn]

But not break the bank and something simple lol

[earnest olive]

what ram speed was used?

[stoic island]

@narrow rose where

[earnest olive]

stock for stock or both oc?

[stoic island]

from GN testing 5600x beats 10700k in everything I saw

other than rdr2

[sharp tundra]

Rdr2 sucks anyways

[lunar thorn]

But that ek aio a good one though @stoic island

[cursive wharf]

depends on if you know how to OC really far usually I'd assume

[stoic island]

@narrow rose also, did you see the 2 sticks vs 4 sticks thing GN talked about and tested earlier?

[earnest olive]

apparently GN tests intel stock at actual intel stock rather than power limits unlocked, so their non-oc intel results are lower than most

[stoic island]

EK AIO is a good one

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island ty sir

[earnest olive]

2x16 > 4x8 on most motherboards due to daisy chain topology

[stoic island]

@earnest olive they do have 10900k oc results in a good number of em

[earnest olive]

it's just rank interleaving, nothing new

even works on intel

[cursive wharf]

buildzoid already went into Intel platform talking about it some time ago

[stoic island]

Yea I heard him talking about daisy chain vs t topology on intel a while back

[narrow rose]

@stoic island oh yeah 4 sticks always helps and always has over 2 sticks

[stoic island]

but dunno on amd

[night iron]

That is the craziest setup ever @south ermine

[earnest olive]

apparently most amd boards are daisy chain as well

mine is daisy chain

but i got 2x8 anyways

[stoic island]

oh well

[cursive magnet]

4 sticks is around 10% boost over 2 stick

[cursive wharf]

well, mobo mastersheet can tell us whether that's true

[earnest olive]

so don't really need to care

[stoic island]

I'd like to wait and see

yea

[narrow rose]

couldnt find what ram or how much he used both with the 3090

[stoic island]

GN does 3200c14

lemme pull up the vid again

[south ermine]

thank you @night iron

[stoic island]

or article if they published one

[earnest olive]

i'm waiting for 3800c16 benchmarks 😦

[cursive wharf]

I was indeed say he had nice 3200 timings but bad 3800 timings

[night iron]

Your welcome enjoy your fantastic room @south ermine

[earnest olive]

i wonder if my ram modules would push any further than 3800mhz with a ryzen 5000 cpu

[stoic island]

yea 3200c14, 3600c16, and 3800c18

[earnest olive]

hynix djr

[south ermine]

I very much will boss

[cursive wharf]

I barely tried and got 3800 15(16 rounded)-15-15-15-30

[narrow rose]

the 5600x did beat the 10700k in one game shadow of the tombraider on 1080p

[stoic island]

who knows

[earnest olive]

currently running 3800 16-16-19-21-36

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf he tested a dif kit for 3800c18 I think

[earnest olive]

dunno if it could hit 4000c18 on ryzen 5000

[cursive wharf]

not until new Agesa

[earnest olive]

that's at 1.4Vdimm so probably

[stoic island]

because I think it was a kit of trident z rgb that's the 3200c14 review kit, kit of neos that was the 3600c16 one, and a diff kit for 3800c18

[stark tangle]

Whats better 3600 c16 or 3200c14

[stoic island]

don't remember

[cursive wharf]

Zen3 doesnt like 2000 flck until some new Agesa update last I heard

[stoic island]

3200c14

[narrow rose]

its close though but yeah 3200cl14

[stoic island]

it's b die tho

[stark tangle]

Ooo

[earnest olive]

3200c14 in terms of pure latency but 3600c16 gets you a higher fclk

[upbeat bison]

Ok so

[cursive wharf]

just do 3600c14

[deep skiff]

yes

[stoic island]

I mean, GN does show OCed 10900k in the charts btw.

[upbeat bison]

I found a 2700 used for $140

should I get it?

[stoic island]

10600k OCed too

[stark tangle]

I have my c16 overclocked to like c15 so I might try to push it down to 14 and see if it goes crashy

[upbeat bison]

I'm running a 7700k

[narrow rose]

or 4666 at cl18

[cursive wharf]

does Intel round CL to highest even digit?

if so, that c15 you have is c16

[stoic island]

I thought rounding was only from GDM?

if you just left it off and left CR on 2t, shouldn't you not have to round?

[cursive wharf]

Im not too into mem OC so idk

[stoic island]

nor am I

lel

[lunar thorn]

Dang they are out of stock of that ek aio

[stark tangle]

@stoic island yr the one who helped me with my timings mr im not into memory oc

[narrow rose]

pretty sure intel rounds up and amd rounds down but I could be wrong for CL

[cursive wharf]

mine rounds up

[stoic island]

interesting

[cursive wharf]

c15 shows as c16 in mobo

[stoic island]

did you turn on GDM?

[cursive wharf]

ye

[stoic island]

that MIGHT be it

[earnest olive]

yeah iirc amd does round down unless you have GDM on

turns c15 into c14 and causes crashy crash 😄

[narrow rose]

doesnt amd have a bios feature you can turn off to not round down?

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island the ek aio is out of stock. Is that one better than that freeze one. And would it be worth the wait for re stock of the ek

[earnest olive]

GDM makes it round up

[narrow rose]

like gear mode or something

[stoic island]

no

freezer ii beats ek aio

ek aio just has rgb

if you're spending money on an aio, you want to spend more money on rgb

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar thorn]

Ohhh lol I see

[narrow rose]

@earnest olive ah the opposite of what I was thinking and its on by default right? the GDM

[lunar thorn]

So which freeze would you reccomend @stoic island

[stoic island]

freezer ii, whatever fits in the top of your case

240mm, 280mm, or 360mm

[earnest olive]

mm not sure if it's on by default

i believe it's on by default at JEDEC

[stoic island]

GDM should be off with xmp..?

[earnest olive]

not sure if XMP touches it

[lunar thorn]

I have a fractal design full tower case

[stoic island]

prob 280mm

[cursive wharf]

Mine was set to auto by default. Which I assume is controlled from XMP or initial mem training

[stoic island]

I mean

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island kk

[stoic island]

my xmp is 16-19-19-39 so

[earnest olive]

same

[narrow rose]

amd says its set to auto and turns on when ram speed passes 2666

[stoic island]

I think GDM has to be off for tRCD to be odd

[narrow rose]

that makes sense

[stark tangle]

How to turn off gdm?

[stoic island]

why would you want to

[narrow rose]

bios

[stoic island]

GDM allows you to get 1t CR

:D

[cursive wharf]

just get really good kits and get 1t without GDM

[still roost]

Korn#1993 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stark tangle]

Whoospie

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf I thought it was necessary above like 3600mhz to use GDM to get 1t

[lunar thorn]

Check this out on @Newegg: ARCTIC COOLING Liquid Freezer II - 280 ACFRE00066A Multi Compatible All-In-One CPU Water Cooler https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-280-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186248?Item=9SIAGKCCGU1215&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAGKCCGU1215-_-11102020

[narrow rose]

runs at 1.5T instead of 1T or 2T

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island this one?

[stoic island]

wtf is that 3rd party seller

[stark tangle]

I said im at 2t should I be at 1t

[earnest olive]

i can only get 3800C16 stable at 1T with GDM on

[stoic island]

and also it's supposed to be like 110$, not that huge price

[earnest olive]

GDM off doesn't boot

[cursive wharf]

no, look at the RAM OC list on #overclocking , seen some people with GDM off at ~3800

[stoic island]

o really

[earnest olive]

i did 3733C16 1T with GDM off though

[stoic island]

oh right

I can't use reddit

smh

[earnest olive]

probably just depends on how good your modules are

i have budget ram

[stoic island]

maybe

[deep skiff]

@stoic island smh my head

just get a vpn ez

[cursive wharf]

usually GDM on gives you tighter timings

[stoic island]

you wanna try

this laptop too op

it resists vpns

[narrow rose]

3733C16 is amazing at 1T just saying @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

well i have 3800C16 1T just with GDM on now

[stoic island]

mhm

very nice

[narrow rose]

if GDM is on you are at 1.5T

[earnest olive]

i figured higher FCLK on ryzen is worth turning on GDM

3733C16 1T GDM off
3800C16 1T GDM on

[narrow rose]

its more like

3733C16 1T vs 3800C16 1.5T

[earnest olive]

the difference is probably negligible anyways but fun to play with

[narrow rose]

true but 3733C16 at 1T is like amazing those are good RAM sticks

[earnest olive]

it was a $68 kit

[narrow rose]

got lucky

[earnest olive]

hynix djr, xmp 3600 16-19-19-39 1.35V

[stoic island]

lmao

[earnest olive]

3800C16 is done at 1.4V

[stoic island]

my djr can't do like anything above 3600c16 smh

[lunar thorn]

16g ram good run all games?

[stoic island]

might need to up voltage

I think it's 1.38

[narrow rose]

@lunar thorn yes

[earnest olive]

dimm temps are still sub 40 even at 1.45V

[lunar thorn]

What is more used for? @narrow rose

[earnest olive]

so i figure no problem going up to 1.45

[lunar thorn]

I have people telling me I need 32g

[earnest olive]

but i think my IMC won't go above 1900mhz FCLK anyways

[narrow rose]

workstation tasks like video rendering and playing Star Citizen lol

[lunar thorn]

All I do is play games and such

[earnest olive]

1900mhz FCLK is already good for zen 2

[cursive magnet]

Wows and discord run about 14 gb

[narrow rose]

if a game uses more than 16g its leaking memory

[cursive wharf]

Im surprised my 3100 did 1900 FLCK

like, lowest end CPU still gets the nice number

[lunar thorn]

Ok what's a good 1000w power supply to get

[cursive magnet]

The enter max that’s 850watt

[stoic island]

Revolution d.f. 850w

[earnest olive]

@stoic island you have an early sample 3800X right?

[stoic island]

mhm

[earnest olive]

it's possible your ram can do over 3600 but your IMC can't

[stoic island]

maybe it's got

yea

[lunar thorn]

@stoic island oh only need a 850w

[earnest olive]

have you tried going uncoupled mode just to test your ram's limits

[stoic island]

@earnest olive maybe I'll try 1:2

or uncoupled

yea haven't yet

[earnest olive]

cause it's kind of unlikely that the ram's maximum stability is xmp tbh

[stoic island]

I also have a b450 board

[earnest olive]

given voltage headroom

[stoic island]

so maybe that

[earnest olive]

which board?

[stoic island]

pro carbon ac

[earnest olive]

those are good for like

4133mhz right?

[stoic island]

dunno

but do consider it's DR

[earnest olive]

oh

[stoic island]

I don't have SR DJR

[earnest olive]

yeah okay then 3600C16 is already excellent

[narrow rose]

yes it is

[stoic island]

I might still try uncoupled and see if it goes higher

3600c16 is xmp >:P

[earnest olive]

probably IMC bottleneck

3600C16 DR probably beats 4000C18 SR anyways

[lunar thorn]

So 850w all you need is this a good one?

Check this out on @Newegg: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA, 80 Plus Gold 850W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-GA-0850-X1 https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-ga-220-ga-0850-x1-850w/p/1HU-00J7-004V4?Item=1HU-00J7-004V4&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-1HU-00J7-004V4-_-11102020

[earnest olive]

what is your cpu and gpu

[stoic island]

no

GA isn't a good 850w unit

[cursive magnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[lunar thorn]

Ryzan 7 3600 and 2080

[stoic island]

get a revolution d.f. for 850w

...

[sharp tundra]

I wanna see all the techies fight, hurry someone throw something conflicting in between them

[earnest olive]

you definitely do not need 850W

[stoic island]

You can power that with 650w

[narrow rose]

my ram is rated for 4800 but xmp only puts it at 4666CL18 and I dont really care lol

[stoic island]

@sharp tundra Naed wins

[earnest olive]

wow 4666C18

how much did that cost you?

[lunar thorn]

Oh perfect thanks!

[stoic island]

there's no contest

[narrow rose]

about $480

[sharp tundra]

Lol

[earnest olive]

yeah makes sense

high bin b-die

[stoic island]

lol

buy that 5100c18 kit