building-and-recc-chat

[arctic jungle]

ofc don't try having more than 30-40 ppl at a time

[jagged ember]

Antago's build is good

[arctic jungle]

ty

[jagged ember]

I just play servers with a couple people

[arctic jungle]

it's the best mc server you'll get for the price

[little osprey]

yeah i dont plan to have more than like 7 members at a time max, and i dont plan to have many plugins, so i assumed 16 gigs would be enough

[jagged ember]

So my current pc suffices for that purpose without mods

[arctic jungle]

I just play servers with a couple people
@jagged ember yea I remember... 8th grade graduation was during corona so we all pitched in 30$ so I could build an mc server rig... that was such an epic build. 512 gb of ram, 3970x and 400 ppl online

[hazy rune]

@arctic jungle Maybe i missed it, why do you need a dedicated gpu for a server?

[arctic jungle]

omg

@hazy rune you don't, but you do for video output

oop didn't mean the omg

sry

[jagged ember]

Holy crap that's insane

[arctic jungle]

it was crazy

[jagged ember]

400 people damn

Rip your network

[arctic jungle]

no I hosted it at the school

[jagged ember]

Oh, it's fine then

[arctic jungle]

we have 100 gb internet there yea

[hazy rune]

Why not just buy an i5 with integrated gpu then?

[arctic jungle]

bc you need cores

[jagged ember]

Exactly

[arctic jungle]

cores for a mc server

that's all that matters

[jagged ember]

Servers aren't single core weighted

[hazy rune]

That’s literally $133 wasted on a gpu

[arctic jungle]

technically you don't need a 1050 ti, you can spend some moneys on a cpu with more cores and get a gt 730 or something of the sort.

[jagged ember]

you wanted a 970 or something?

Oh, even lower

[arctic jungle]

you don't need super video output

do you have a gpu rn?

[jagged ember]

Eh

[hazy rune]

No, you don’t need anything if you buy intel. You could also get away with a gt710

[jagged ember]

Fair

Lol hell no Intel is not cost efficient

[arctic jungle]

@little osprey do u have a spare gpu to throw into the build? anything will work

[hazy rune]

It’s a lot more cost efficient than throwing $133 at a gpu 🤣

[arctic jungle]

No, you don’t need anything if you buy intel. You could also get away with a gt710
@hazy rune intel can barely run a minecraft server

[little osprey]

yeah i have a 570 i might be able to use, and a psu

[jagged ember]

You'd need to pay way too much to get one that could

[arctic jungle]

No, you don’t need anything if you buy intel. You could also get away with a gt710
@hazy rune also the cost of an intel mobo with a decent cooler isn't worth

[jagged ember]

Ayy

[hazy rune]

You’re all fighting the intel, but that’s only half my point

[jagged ember]

Man's got ane xtra gpu

[arctic jungle]

@little osprey is it ok if I do another list and discount those 2 things from the price?

[jagged ember]

Problem solved

[hazy rune]

You don’t need a gpu for a server

End of story

[little osprey]

@little osprey is it ok if I do another list and discount those 2 things from the price?
@arctic jungle sure

[jagged ember]

Lol

He has one lying around

It's fine

[little osprey]

You don’t need a gpu for a server
@hazy rune if the cpu doesnt have an igpu, then yes you do need one

[jagged ember]

He gets it

[hazy rune]

🤦‍♂️

[arctic jungle]

You’re all fighting the intel, but that’s only half my point
@hazy rune see here's the thing- I'm an intel user. I'm unbiased. but you're wrong. AMD will offer better performance running a minecraft server. If a CPU is running an igpu, it's generating too much heat. You need a beefy cooling solution. also a 2700x will just DO better.

than any intel cpu/mobo combo at that price

[jagged ember]

Okay, I'm an amd user

So I probably am biasef

[hazy rune]

The cooling is a good reason to not use I gpu. I’m on board with that.

[deep skiff]

eh slap a delta fan on it thermals arent an issue

[jagged ember]

Just use ln2

[little osprey]

what would be the benefit of going with an old Xeon computer tho, ive seen ones on amazon and ebay for cheap, they usually dont have very powerful cores, the only benefit i could think of is having more cache possibly?

[hazy rune]

I mean xeons were intended for servers

Lots of cores, low single core speed

[jagged ember]

Ram generational differences and pcie differences?

[little osprey]

but most of the systems ive seen have only like 4 to 6 cores at 2ghz speeds

[hazy rune]

You need a specific motherboard

They must be really old then

[little osprey]

true

[jagged ember]

Just worried it's gonna be ddr3 and pcie gen2

Actually, scratch the pcie point lol

Forgot we were working with a server

[arctic jungle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7jqtp2 use this @little osprey. You don't need a case, use the gpu and psu u were talking about. I listed the micro atx mobo bc I couldn't find the price for the atx one; altho m atx is fine

3900x is best cpu b4 you start getting to i9 extreme cpus and threadrippers

[little osprey]

yeah thanks

[jagged ember]

Hm

[arctic jungle]

np

12 cores

WoOO

lol

[hazy rune]

I’d still buy a case. Even if it’s only $30.

[jagged ember]

Would you consider faster ram?

Ryzen chips prefer that but idk how it translates into server

[hazy rune]

It’s not cost effective

[arctic jungle]

@jagged ember wouldn't make much of a difference... it's 3000 mhz cl15, same as 3200 cl16, or 3600 cl18- servers would only consider the average, which is 10 on the scale for all of them

[jagged ember]

Oh, right

[arctic jungle]

for gaming, absolutely

[jagged ember]

That exists

[arctic jungle]

not gaming tho

3000 mhz cl15 is fine

and any gpu will do

all u need gpu for is video output

[jagged ember]

Get one from 10 years ago lol

[arctic jungle]

well

I mean

you do want a fairly recent gpu that's cabable of outputting decently quick responses

for overall system latency

bc u have to leave the gpu in the system

[little osprey]

if not a 1050ti, a 1650 would probably suffice

[arctic jungle]

1650 is better than 1050 ti

[little osprey]

yeah haha

[jagged ember]

If it costs less that is

Or if you have one lying around

[arctic jungle]

anything that base clocks higher than 1.2 gHz should do fine

u can OC ofc but I can't reccomend overclocking anything in a system that's being used in a miencraft server bc it's running 24/7

[little osprey]

yeah stability is important

[arctic jungle]

mhm

also

bandwidth may be a bottleneck

what's the internet speed?

@little osprey

make sure that the server rig is getting at least 10-20 mb/ps per user so they don't bounce too much

[little osprey]

im working on it with my dad, we still have to upgrade the cat5 cables to something less ass, but we upgraded to 500mbps

[arctic jungle]

and don't use wifi

like at all

[little osprey]

yeah def

[arctic jungle]

speed isn't a concern, it's ping

u wanna reduce it amap

use cat 6

directly from the router

mk?

it's not crazy expensive, 4-5$ for a cat 6 of decent length

[little osprey]

so "speed" tests arent really the greatest measure, but since most of the people playing on it are pretty close to me, would a speed test be more accurate bc the servers its pinging are closer to me?

or should i ping a friend's computer?

[arctic jungle]

so speed isn't ur main concern. and abotut he closeness, that won't matter as much.

let me explain

so internet works in rings

[little osprey]

ok

[arctic jungle]

think of it this way- local LAN, then the area around ur nearest service center- usually the state capital or a big city, whatever's the closest. then comes a wide-area network. this is a region, like the northwest, southwest, etc. consists of a few states. this is the very edge of playable ping. then you have country, then world, blah blah blah. ur friends are going to ping thru the nearest service center first. you need a 90% steady internet connection, so they almost never have to ping to regional network. meaning stay as close to a router as possible, use cat 6, don't run anything in the background. You need to reduce ping as much as possible. Speed isn't a huge concern, 5 mb/s per person upload should be overkill, 10 is garunteed no packet loss unless they hacking. if you can get the ping down to the nearest center to <5, you're perfect

a good way to test this is speedtest by ookla

it'll tell you what server it connects to

that's the simplified version

@little osprey

[little osprey]

ohhhhh

okay

[arctic jungle]

https://speedtest.net

this is what you can use to accurately leasure to the service center

try it, see what u get

[little osprey]

whats strange tho is that (ik speeds arent guaranteed) but when i test the speed of our network, 5ghz wifi band is faster than cat6 coming straight from the router

[arctic jungle]

5 ghz will gib faster download but slower upload, but is less consistent

[little osprey]

ok

[arctic jungle]

ethernet balances out up and down, and will be more stable

also less ping

[little osprey]

true

[arctic jungle]

i'll send you a screenshot of my ookla

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/4c9bc64f-7e89-44be-b5a3-d7132ed1cac2

that's mine

I have cracked gigabit tho

[little osprey]

dayum

[languid nimbus]

dayum

[arctic jungle]

xD we have 2 separate gigabit actually, but that's bc my dad and myself are both into heavy cs

altho he doesn't do that anymore

[little osprey]

waow

[arctic jungle]

gigabit is cheap when you live near a big population center

[little osprey]

huh

didnt know that

[arctic jungle]

yea

1 gigabit connection is closer to 40-50$ a month

that's bc there's a lot of competition

there are 4 providers in my town

so they have to lower prices

perks of living close to NYC

ofc everything else is expensive 🙄

[little osprey]

so currently this is worst case scenario, im the farthest from the router and there are a lot of ppl doing things on my network

[arctic jungle]

[little osprey]

but still not bad

ish

[arctic jungle]

tr being connected to ethernet

[little osprey]

we dont currently have any runs of it to the upper level of my house, but ill try my laptop

[arctic jungle]

yea

laptop won't be too accurate tho

[little osprey]

true

brb

[sullen spoke]

you mean you get gigabit for 50/month near nyc

i get 100/month near nyc

[arctic jungle]

@sullen spoke im new jersey... im only getting for 50/month bc my dad's company is completely work from home, even b4 corona, so they offer to pay half of internet bill

new jersey gang GANGu

commuter life

[sullen spoke]

[coral kiln]

we are going to get 100 mbps fiber connection

but at 100 USD

per month

25 mbps upload

unlimited

[still roost]

Razorback360#1116 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[coral kiln]

aaaa

i dumb

i even named myself

i guess im gonna get banned soon

3 warns so far

[small osprey]

F

[little osprey]

F

[languid nimbus]

F

[weak field]

peace

[little osprey]

@arctic jungle so i got sidetracked, but i tested multiple cables and multiple spots, but no matter what im getting ~50 up and ~10 down through a switch that comes straight from the router through a 1 foot cat6, the router is connected to the modem through another 1 ft patch cat6 cable. I cant figure out what might be bottlenecking the connection.

[weak field]

bruh

thats bottlenecking for you

my location sucks

i pay 60$ a month for 4up .5-8 down

[pliant vapor]

Dang I get gigabit up and down for $45 a month

[little osprey]

thats bottlenecking for you
@weak field i mean we pay for 500

so...

[iron berry]

Very important the speed test is it in MB or Mb

[arctic jungle]

@little osprey maybe it's the network card? you need to try it on a stable solid motherboard

not on a laptop

[velvet summit]

Hey guys

I need help with something

Is this a good pc

[quasi snow]

That is a very old build

[velvet summit]

Yea ik

It’s $700

Nzd

[stoic island]

I don't like the sounds of it

[weak field]

you could build something new for 700$ that would be way better

[little osprey]

@little osprey maybe it's the network card? you need to try it on a stable solid motherboard
@arctic jungle no because on multiple computers and devices it has the same speeds

[arctic jungle]

it might be your router causing issues

look up the reviews of the router?

also if you can, get rid of the router for a sec, and plug the wire directly from ur house to a computer

get rid of middleman router

[little osprey]

its one of the netgear nighthawks, they are rated pretty well and claim to be up to 1900mbps (though i doubt it)

get rid of middleman router
@arctic jungle ill try that

[umbral token]

I was wondering if you guy could assist me in suggesting good upgrades for my current setup. I am not trying to break the bank but I think It's well overdue for a upgrade. Thanks
My current Setup
CPU - Intel Core i5 660k 3.50GHz
RAM - 16GB ddr4
Motherboard - B150M=DS3H-CF
Graphics Card - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
Storage - 931GB Toshiba DT01ACA100 HDD
-500 GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus
I mainly play GTA FiveM and my game constantly stutters and maxes out my cpu.

[little osprey]

why is there no x570 boards in the newegg pc builder? am i missing something?

@umbral token around what budget?

[umbral token]

About 3-4 hundred or possibly $450 or so depending what it can get me

[little osprey]

thats quite a tight budget, what are the minimum requirements you have for the game (settings and framerate, etc.)

[umbral token]

CPU Intel Core i5 6600k @ 3.2GHz / AMD X8 FX-8350 @ 4GHz
GPU NVIDIA GTX 660 2GB / AMD HD 7870 2GB
RAM 16GB
HDD 72GB + 8GB
Windows 8.1

These are the recommended requirements. I usually play on all low settings because it doesn't really bother me how things look. The main time my game runs into issues is when I'm around a large group of people.

[little osprey]

ok i meant what you wanted to run the game at. So 60 fps i assume?

[safe peak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F7ZNqp

rate me

budget 2k

building in 2-3 weeks

[little leaf]

Horrendous'

terrible

[little osprey]

@safe peak give me a minute and ill fix it

[safe peak]

ok

[umbral token]

Oh yeah at least. The game usually runs at a fine fps it's just when I'm for example driving fast through the city the game just kinda freezes and on other peoples screens I teleport around. I noticed that also when that happens my CPU usage is usually is usually at 100%

[little osprey]

@umbral token i would go with this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jKvW3

[umbral token]

Oh thank you Astro! And do you think it would be most cost efficient if I just updated what I currently have or would it be better to just start fresh?

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFM9Gq @safe peak

[little osprey]

@safe peak when do you plan to build it

[little leaf]

2-3 weeks

[little osprey]

wym

wait isnt @safe peak building it?

[little leaf]

building in 2-3 weeks

[little osprey]

oh mb lmao

ok assuming the parts are in stock, then yes that is a good build

[narrow rose]

its a great build

[weak field]

aint none gonna talk about the 500$ monitor?

[little osprey]

lmao yeah

though it seems that the color accuracy is better idk tho

[narrow rose]

I always just assume monitors are personal preference

[vital warren]

what 500 monitor

all i see is a 300 one on that list

the recent 1

[little osprey]

but if somebody is buying a $1200 usd monitor and a 3600 im going to ask haha

[narrow rose]

thats fair

[little osprey]

what 500 monitor
@vital warren the original one aido potato linked

[vital warren]

oh yikes

ew

[little osprey]

this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z196K8Z?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

Way over priced imo

its not that crazy, but its not a great monitor for the price

I'd rather get the gigabyte g32qc same specs just without the rgb

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012012

I know 32" at 1440p isn't the best but I'd much rather have that

[narrow rose]

eww its curved

[little osprey]

eh i have a curved and its not bad

got it on sale for CHEAP

I prefer curve over flat bc I sit right infront of it, so a lil curve isn't bad

[narrow rose]

personally curved screens disturb me but to each their own

[little osprey]

Yea it's basically preference

[umbral token]

I forgot to link this earlier astr0child but here is my current setup. Instead of starting over and building from scratch what exactly would you recommend for me? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BmZNqp Sorry about that lol

[narrow rose]

i hate the ram

[umbral token]

I'm not sure what ram I have just 2 8gb sticks I guessed on that lmao

[little osprey]

i hate the ram
@narrow rose eh

I guessed on that lmao
@umbral token

ok so a simple upgrade would be upgrading the graphics card

[narrow rose]

and the ram

[little osprey]

def the ram too

[narrow rose]

after that good to go

[little osprey]

and if you have a stock cooler upgrade that.

is the 6600k lga1151?

oh it is

then upgrade the cooler to like a cm hyper 212

[narrow rose]

I dont think they came with a cooler

[little osprey]

oh ok

[narrow rose]

so he probably has something aftermarket

[little osprey]

then its probably fine

[umbral token]

uhh I don't think I have one man

[narrow rose]

lol

[little osprey]

passive cpu cooling ftw

[narrow rose]

is there a ton of aluminum present?

if not there is a fan on that cpu

[umbral token]

could you guys make me like a list if you don't mind when I look at it I see all the same I don't really know what's good or bad. Yes I think there is a fan I cut my self on it a moment ago trying to read what ram I had

maybe within the same 3-$450 budget from before

[little osprey]

im editing the existing one you sent

[umbral token]

oh perfect thank you thank you thank you

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rGTQqp

i mean the ram didnt get a massive upgrade, but it really dosent, 16 gigs should be enough for your application

and the 1660 super should be able to run GTA5 at med/high at good fps

[narrow rose]

I like it

[umbral token]

I think that as well I've heard people are doing just fine with 16gbs on the same game.

[narrow rose]

16g is usually plenty for gaming

[umbral token]

And does my cpu not need an upgrade though? I thought that was what was holding me back but I'm probably wrong lol

[narrow rose]

not nearly as much as the gpu was

[little osprey]

the cpu can get an upgrade if you want, but you will need to change the motherboard also.

[umbral token]

Well I'm definitely going to upgrade the gpu first after hearing that. Do you have a good cpu/motherboard that you recommend as well? I might go ahead and do that while I'm at it

[little osprey]

sure

[umbral token]

Thank you Astro and you Nilboggen you guys are saving me lol

[little osprey]

np

this should be it

[narrow rose]

that ones private

[little osprey]

oh mb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vJcqp

here

[narrow rose]

looks good to me

[little osprey]

you might be able to sell the motherboard, cpu, and ram if you upgrade them to get a little cash back

[umbral token]

Perfect well thank you guys very much for all the help. Oh man that would be great where would be a good place to do that at?

[little osprey]

you could sell it on a marketplace app (craiglist, etc.) or ebay

[stoic island]

hm, what's with the tomahawk max?

[little osprey]

hm, what's with the tomahawk max?
@stoic island wym

[stoic island]

Why not B550

Like a B550m pro4

[little osprey]

@umbral token would you plan on upgrading soon after you build it if there was some incentive to ?

[stoic island]

not even that

for dual m.2 NVMe drives

better sound chip than tomahawk max

(B550m pro4 at 95$)

and PCIe 4.0 for future proofing

[little osprey]

oh that is true

[umbral token]

Well I'm really good with upgrading now or even a month from now anytime I'm fine with. Whatever is the best time honestly. I've waited until now for hopefully better deals since black friday

[stoic island]

I just see it as a no brainer, spend less, get more features :P

unless there's some specific reason for a tomahawk max

[little osprey]

there was no specific reason, but i went with it because its been a solid board for a while now, and the vrms are good

[narrow rose]

maybe we really like the red leds down the side

[stoic island]

And what's with the ram? It's kinda a weird spot, it's not a cheap 3200c16 kit, nor a 3600c16 kit

(As in, spending 69$ for 3200c16 when you can spend 55$ for a kit of 3200c16, or spend 75$ for a kit of 3600c16)

Well, I don't believe it's a very solid board, in terms of features set.

[little osprey]

if you have recommendations, then make another list ig

[stoic island]

It does have decent VRMs, but eh, who's really going to take advantage of that?

I will then

[narrow rose]

I don't believe in the VRM gods either

[little osprey]

It does have decent VRMs, but eh, who's really going to take advantage of that?
@stoic island stability ig

[stoic island]

Stability... for what

[little osprey]

the board overall

if a motherboard has insufficient power delivery then it could be potentially unstable

[stoic island]

That's not an issue when you have a half decent VRM at stock

[little osprey]

true

[stoic island]

Tomahawk has a way overkill VRM imo

Especially just for a 3600

Revision 1:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nchb8J

[little osprey]

well if he plans to upgrade to 5000 series, they announced b450 will support it

[stoic island]

That wasn't a major concern for me for the Tomahawk, but that's also not universal support

[narrow rose]

In defiance of the VRM gods I have a 8700k OC-ed to 5.3 on all cores on a gigabyte z370P D3 board which got some of the worst VRM ratings lol

[stoic island]

Zen 3 support on B450 varies from board to board depending on the manufacturer.

lol

[little osprey]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/matthew-wilson/msi-will-update-all-400-series-motherboards-to-support-ryzen-5000-cpus/#:~:text=“To respond to our users,5000 processors”%2C MSI said.

[stoic island]

mhm

it's going to vary and arrive in ~ Jan 2021 at the earliest

[little osprey]

5000 series?

[narrow rose]

what you dont trust AMD driver updates LOL

[stoic island]

there's the image that I refer to

[umbral token]

Well I probably won't be upgrading for a while after this honestly if It runs fine I'll be happy. I've have this current setup for two and it might even be three years.

[stoic island]

Point being, it will vary and likely be staggered with no date set in place for the beta bios.

[little osprey]

but if he is going to get a 3600, then he can upgrade to 5000 a while later if it makes sense. and we dont know if 500 boards will support further than 5000 series

[stoic island]

Mhm, that's true, but that's also not a reason why I didn't like the tomahawk max.

Oh and 500 boards won't support further

next gen of chips going to AM5

[foggy hazel]

re: "it could potentially be unstable" <- not unless the manufacturer has done a big old goof. I personally see this one as a big old urban myth

[stoic island]

eh, unstable OC maybe.

[safe peak]

hey guys is the LG 27GL850-B any good?

[stoic island]

standard use, VRMs won't affect anything unless it's overheating or something.

[little osprey]

hey guys is the LG 27GL850-B any good?
@safe peak yes

but a bit pricey

[safe peak]

true

[stoic island]

@safe peak quick look at the specs look good, but that pricing does not look good to me

[foggy hazel]

re: unstable oc: yes. because its a OC. so there is always that risk. But for standard use? heck no.

[stoic island]

what price are you seeing for it?

[mystic needle]

is there any main difference between ripjaws and corsair vengeance rm

ram*

[stoic island]

I would consider that panel equivalent, or maybe worse than this one.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018
@safe peak

@mystic needle Main difference being module heatsink shape, and Corsair likes stuffing different dies into their ram.

oh and price difference ofc

[umbral token]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vJcqp
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nchb8J
soo uh Mr1111's list or astr0child's? I prefer the second because it's $609 and the first is 646.96 and I don't really plan on upgrading for a long while if I ever do. And I might not upgrade the Ram now either 🤷

[mystic needle]

right now they’re priced very similarly

the 16

[stoic island]

uh what

@mystic needle you're comparing kits of different frequency and timings

The ripjaw v is 3600c16

the vengence is 3200c16

[little osprey]

yeah

[stoic island]

And also, go find the crucial ballistix 3600c16 kit

it's 75$ with micron e die

[weak field]

the corsair vengeance lpx 3600mhz 16gb 2x8 is 65$

[stoic island]

@umbral token my reasoning :
B550m pro4 just straight up offers more features than the b450 tomahawk max for a lower price.
3600c16 ram beats 3200c16 ram in performance, and is especially apparent on Ryzen 3rd gen.
Cheaper 1660 super that is also in stock, and the MSI Ventus line for RTX20xx/GTX16xx has a thin heatsink and likes to OC.

[safe peak]

sorry i was afk but thank you @stoic island

[vital warren]

b550 phantom is $100 rn i have been blessed

[stoic island]

oo PG4?

is it actually 100$ rn?

[mystic needle]

oh i don’t know much about this that’s why im asking which is better 😅

[vital warren]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157935?Description=b550 phantom&cm_re=b550_phantom-_-13-157-935-_-Product

[stoic island]

pog

[vital warren]

i'm ordering it later

ez

[stoic island]

@weak field link?

[safe peak]

is there a diffesrence between 8s bit color and 10 bit cause i have no idea what that means

[weak field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ds2dyX @stoic island

[stoic island]

uh

that's c18

but fair

[raw mist]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cY2bt6/corsair-cv-650-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020211-na is this a good psu?

[stoic island]

@safe peak you basically don't have to worry about it

Because you'd know if you needed it.

[safe peak]

ok

[narrow rose]

@raw mist not really

[stoic island]

@raw mist it's decent-ish, on the budget end of things, basically equivelent to a EVGA BR. But at 85cad, it's not bad.

[narrow rose]

its not even a little modular

[safe peak]

is urcdkeys.com legit for the windows 10 copy for one 10 bucks?

https://www.urcdkeys.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1966-20.html

[little osprey]

id be careful with those

[narrow rose]

the equivelent EVGA BR would be semi modular at least

[safe peak]

should i just roll the dice or pay 200 bucks for the legit copy

[narrow rose]

buy a key off a reputable seller on ebay for $10

[little osprey]

unless you need win 10 pro go with home if you are getting a legit copy from microsoft

[safe peak]

like these? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-10-Pro-key-Professional-32-64bit-Genuine-Activation-License-Code-Key/254764369485?epid=10024215405&hash=item3b5123c64d:g:dRcAAOSwLYdfnSNp

[narrow rose]

exactly

[stoic island]

Heh, I don't really consider modular for PSU quality

[narrow rose]

if it doesnt work contact the seller first they might give you another if it doesnt work after that tell ebay and they will refund you no risk

[stoic island]

But I'm also a person that doesn't care about cable management.

[narrow rose]

also most psu today are at least semi modular I was suprised he or she found one that wasn't

[stoic island]

Hey, don't insult Corsair CX >:P

[narrow rose]

lol

[stoic island]

It's still a good PSU despite not being modular

[viral ore]

facts

also

nice rank

[stoic island]

I'm so close to legend now

[narrow rose]

I would agree its still probably a decent psu

[stoic island]

back to purple

[viral ore]

lmao

[deep skiff]

imagine caring about ranks

[idle badger]

question: my friend wants to get a new pc with a ryzen 5 3600 and a gtx 1660 or something around that price but he already has a pc with a i5 7400, all he is going to do is play games and not even that demanding ones at that, should he A. get the pc and spend above 700 dollars or just buy a psu and a gfx card?

[stoic island]

@deep skiff but I get pretty colors :)

@idle badger what exactly does he have right now?

[idle badger]

a prebuilt with a i5 7400, 12 gb ram and a 1tb hdd

[stoic island]

eek

what the hell is 12gb of ram

[idle badger]

most demanding game that he plays is gta v

ikr

idk man

its wierd

[deep skiff]

i have cooler colors @stoic island

[stoic island]

[idle badger]

so what do yall think he should do

[stoic island]

Well, any SSDs?

[idle badger]

osht

no

he should get one yea

[stoic island]

then honestly

I'd get a new PC

keep the HDD

everything else is prob going to be useless, should be able to sell everything else for a decent price.

[idle badger]

i5 7400 still a good cpu tho

imo

[stoic island]

except

good chance it's 2400mhz ram

on a non-z mobo

[idle badger]

ah yea

[stoic island]

since it's prebuilt

no reason changing mobos without changing CPU

[winter marsh]

Hiddy ho

[carmine finch]

Should I get a ryzen 5 3600 or a 5600x

[stoic island]

If you can wait, 5600x

[idle badger]

aightt

[weak field]

more expensive er

[carmine finch]

Alright thanks

[fresh delta]

Hello. Was wondering if anyone had any advice for what I should upgrade next for gaming? Here are my current parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C494nL
(I wasn't sure what brand of memory but I know it's 16GB Dual-Channel DDR3)

[stoic island]

I'd say CPU+Mobo+ram

[deep skiff]

ssd

[stoic island]

and ssd

[fresh delta]

thanks! would you have any suggestions for the CPU & motherboard? I'm on a tight budget around 200-300 preferably but anywhere around there is fine

[umbral token]

Earlier I was wondering the same thing. Maybe someone can edit your SystemBuilder and add the parts on there that they recommend

[stoic island]

You'd have to swap ram too for a new more modern build

@fresh delta considering adding ram too, is the budget still going to be 200-300?

[fresh delta]

maybe around 400 or so but that would be the max

[deep skiff]

could probably grab a 3100+cheaper am4 board+16gb 3200 or something for that, you could get some money back by selling the old parts too

[stoic island]

mhm

I'm thinking 400 gets you 3600+b550+3200c16

Like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gfHmg

@fresh delta that would be good if you can afford it

and this is the cheapest possible decent config I can think of for reference
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FhMQTC

[deep skiff]

if u can wait for ryzen 5000 tho that should drop ryzen 3000 prices down

[fresh delta]

when is that?

[stoic island]

very unlikely nachos

unless you want to count used parts, it's prob not going to drop.

[deep skiff]

i mean my 2600x went from 170 to like 120 in a week

wait huh thats in like 4 days

[fresh delta]

I plan on waiting at least a few weeks so I'll see. thanks for the suggestions! 🙂

[iron berry]

November 5th time to do it all over again and hopefully be successful at getting a 5000 series cpu

[tender heron]

Wait what would the difference be between the oloY and the corsair vengeance pro if they're both at 3600 mhz CL18

[cursive wharf]

@deep skiff @stoic island I dont see Zen2 prices changing until non X zen3 parts come out (if they do)

cuz of Zen3 price increase

[deep skiff]

id say it depends a lot on the retailer, like microcenter is probably gonna have cheaper prices on zen2 when zen3 comes out i can almost guarantee

[foggy hazel]

@deep skiff that is a sellers choice.

[stoic island]

mhm

no guarantees either way

[deep skiff]

yuh

[iron berry]

I mean the 3700x was selling at 279 for a bit and got bumped back up

[carmine finch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v9zJbh would this be a good balanced build?

[stoic island]

no

@carmine finch for a new build, not at all imo

:p

if you already own some of the parts, it might make more sense

[carmine finch]

Alright

[winter marsh]

drop the 1070 for a 3070 or rx6000 unless you already own it

[carmine finch]

Alright

[deep skiff]

that psu choice is skeptical at best

[stoic island]

my edits:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mKtvW3

OOOO PURPLE

[deep skiff]

i can barely read ur name now

[stoic island]

@sullen spoke I got purple before 100k messages

PURP IS NICE

[foggy hazel]

@iron berry again, sellers choice

[winter marsh]

450 watts is a bit low, 600-700 watts safer bet

[iron berry]

yee

[rancid oasis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bPBXvf

[stoic island]

When building?

What purpose

[rancid oasis]

Gaming

He was really vague

[stoic island]

When are they building?

[rancid oasis]

He want somebody to build it for them @stoic island

[stoic island]

uh

Why can't they build it themselves?

I'll go edit list anyways

[rancid oasis]

Why can't they build it themselves?
@stoic island idk

Tell me when ur done with it

[stoic island]

@rancid oasis preliminary edits:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vC7tp2

[tender heron]

Wait what would the difference be between the oloY and the corsair vengeance pro if they're both at 3600 mhz CL18

[stoic island]

heatsink

different die

different company

[rancid oasis]

idk about noctua it doesn't make it look nice

[stoic island]

meh, change it to freezer ii maybe

but all I gotta say is

Noctua is the best company for cooling products imo

:P

[tender heron]

But performance wise it would be the same tho?

[rancid oasis]

he says he wanted rgb too that's why my list was like that

[stoic island]

if they do run at the same speed and timings

and the case has RGB smh

[rancid oasis]

does it i ddint click on the pictures

[fleet pagoda]

@stoic island what would the best parts be for a 2300$ build w a 3900x and a 2070 super could u make a pc part picker thang for meh

[stoic island]

this is that case
#build-pics message

front argb fans come with the case.

[iron berry]

@foggy hazel that was my point that they had gone down but then they went up again closer to zen3 announcement so who knows whats gonna happen

[stoic island]

@fleet pagoda those are really low standards for a 2300$ build lmao

for 2300$ you can pretty easily get like 5950x+3080 >:P

[foggy hazel]

@fleet pagoda why would you go for old tech like that?

[rancid oasis]

let me chnage some stuff then

[fleet pagoda]

Im helping my sister and her bf pick stuff out and they dont wanna wait for the 3080 to rerelease

[stoic island]

then tell them to spend <1500$ for it

[rancid oasis]

its worth it doe

[fleet pagoda]

They dont want to trust me

[stoic island]

. . .

[fleet pagoda]

Would it be in stock in stores

[stoic island]

I'll go make a list

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[stoic island]

if they want to be stuck on old tech

they can do that

maybe buyer's remorse will teach them something

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island i would personally not make that list.

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel somewhat out of curiosity atm.

[fleet pagoda]

I can try and convince them to wait but they have the money and they want it now

[stoic island]

and also to see what kind of madness I can stuff in a list like that

[fleet pagoda]

Lol

[foggy hazel]

just remember that its your name you are putting to that list @stoic island

[stoic island]

I understand

[foggy hazel]

okay :)

[stoic island]

but I gotta make one for fun yaknow

[foggy hazel]

fair enough

[stoic island]

For example, you know Unify is going in that list :D

[fleet pagoda]

Idk what that is

[stoic island]

X570 unify, smexy as hell, lots of overkill features, 300$.

it's great... for splurging for little reason

[fleet pagoda]

Oki

[stoic island]

but yea remember this is splurging-for-no-reason, for-fun list.

[fleet pagoda]

Alr

[foggy hazel]

also @fleet pagoda

[stoic island]

lmfao

that's...

interesting

[foggy hazel]

there is nothing that prevents you from growing a spine and saying "no! do NOT buy right now"

[languid nimbus]

oof

[foggy hazel]

amazon or newegg thirdparty @stoic island ?

[stoic island]

Amazon.

[foggy hazel]

kk

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel the interesting part is that's what comes up with sort by lowest price...

[foggy hazel]

aye, its "lovely" right :)

sidenote: the channel is drying up of most cards at the moment

[stoic island]

yea

I think I'm gonna put in 2080 super at the price I saw B stock had it earlier this week

[foggy hazel]

sidenote: i am VERY much looking forward to hearing the BS excuses/ "reasons" in the nvidia investor call in a couple of weeks

[winter marsh]

Lol

[languid nimbus]

Still out of stock on evga

[fleet pagoda]

there is nothing that prevents you from growing a spine and saying "no! do NOT buy right now"
@foggy hazel u right \

is ssd or hard drive storage better

[foggy hazel]

because you are the one that will be potentially asked to explain "why does this not perform as fast as the new stuff" in a couple of months

[vital warren]

ssd

[fleet pagoda]

do u know when the 3080 will re release

naed

ssd
@vital warren ty

[foggy hazel]

@fleet pagoda there is no fixed date, because its not a re-release. it is being produced, just for unknown reasons, its slow as all heck

[winter marsh]

SSD & NVME are great for OS and Apps, still too expensive for mass storage of any kind.

[foggy hazel]

depends on the storage needs.

[winter marsh]

True but if its that minor store it on the main drive

[foggy hazel]

majority of people dont currently need anything beyond 2 tb

[stoic island]

ick

[foggy hazel]

and that is being VERY generous with the numbers

[stoic island]

I edited someone elses' list in DMs and now the other list I was working on is gone >:(

[foggy hazel]

its "lovely" how PCPP works like that right? :D

[stoic island]

maybe that's a sign for me not to do the 2300$ 3900x+2070s build

[fleet pagoda]

😭

Rip my man

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel the kicker is that for some reason, I thought editing a ca.pcpartpicker.com list wouldn't affect the US list

[vital warren]

just ordered my mobo/psu and ram

ez

[stoic island]

should've known better

[winter marsh]

@foggy hazel I use a 2tb SSD as my Os drive https://www.newegg.com/seagate-barracuda-120-2tb/p/N82E16820248105?Item=N82E16820248105

@foggy hazel I use a 8tb HHD for the mass number of program files, media, and documents I tend to generate https://www.newegg.com/seagate-barracuda-st8000dm004-8tb/p/N82E16822183793?Item=N82E16822183793

[foggy hazel]

again, majority.

@stoic island sadly it does not work like that :)

[winter marsh]

Brb I'm off for a bit of gaming

[hoary lichen]

Does anyone have any good $800-700 pc builds?

[stoic island]

I can make one

[hoary lichen]

Alr

[stoic island]

USD?

[hoary lichen]

Yea

[stoic island]

for Gaming?

[hoary lichen]

Yea

[stoic island]

Need wifi?

[hoary lichen]

Nah

My wifi is good enough

[fleet pagoda]

I told them to wait for the 3080 lets see what happens

[hoary lichen]

Although ill need a ethernet cable thats like 20 feet long

[stoic island]

This is a broad boi:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kYrZfP

I can squeeze it down to have a 2060 by downgrading some other stuff for better gaming perf

[small osprey]

Ooh legend nice

[stoic island]

but better overall stuff might help with futureproofing (Gud board+ram+PSU)

[hoary lichen]

Alr

Thx

I have about

200 saved up rn

600 to go

[stoic island]

Then come back again when you have near the amount needed saved up.

because the market likes changing.

[hoary lichen]

Alr

Yea

[fleet pagoda]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVY3t8 @stoic island im gonna try and get them to wait so the 2070 super is a place holder on here tell me what to improve

[stoic island]

eek

[violet harness]

PCpp HAHAHAH so funny

[hoary lichen]

Isnt it gonna be better to buy stuff on cyber monday

[stoic island]

I edit

Yes

it is very gud

[small osprey]

Cyber monday = savings to rival honey xD

[hoary lichen]

Lmao

[pseudo forge]

Quick question

What does a motherboard need for you to be able to run 9 fans?

Anything in particular

[stoic island]

not the motherboard

you just need splitters/hubs

[pseudo forge]

Where do you find these

Do they come with the ganache

Fans

[fleet pagoda]

is the list i made bad

[stoic island]

no

you buy separately

[pseudo forge]

I’m getting 9 ll120 fans

So what extra will I need to buy

[stoic island]

@fleet pagoda edits:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qmgV7X

[fleet pagoda]

k

[stoic island]

I can't help you if you're buying ll120s xd

[pseudo forge]

Why not 😂

[stoic island]

rgb

sux

and expensive

[pseudo forge]

Ahaha

[stoic island]

and annoying

like seriously you need like separate rgb hubs and crap

I don't want to deal with em :P

[small osprey]

Are crucial ballatix better than gskill ripjaws

[stoic island]

Yes

Micron e die

[foggy hazel]

and there you go @stoic island, finally coming round to why i dont deal with RGB either :D

[stoic island]

lol

I came to that realization after this in the CM discord

and they wanted a current rating.
For an argb strip on a CPU cooler

[pseudo forge]

Wtf does that mean 😂

[stoic island]

and I just gave up

[foggy hazel]

:)

[languid nimbus]

rule 13, only English pls

:p

[stoic island]

oh yea

I could barely understand that english

that's half the problem

[foggy hazel]

if we enforce that, all of #general-chat would be out

[stoic island]

heh

[sullen spoke]

Burple

[stoic island]

purp

[sullen spoke]

Second time I see that color

[stoic island]

yes

last time, it was me at lvl 50

[small osprey]

Purpled

Burpled

Did anyone ever get to mythical

[foggy hazel]

nope

and the rate Mr111 is going, he will be the first to hit the 80's

[stoic island]

mua ha ha ha

[small osprey]

Mr1111 how long u been here

[stoic island]

Well, Ghost and Tomie actually joined near the same time as me, so they have a good chance too

[foggy hazel]

i still think we should strip XP gen from the "chat" channels

[stoic island]

they've been at a faster pace at the start

[small osprey]

Mhm

[stoic island]

lol

[small osprey]

I dont see tomie talk much

[stoic island]

give me 2x xp in every non-general chat >:D

[foggy hazel]

@small osprey because you arent around at those times

[small osprey]

Ah

Time zones are fun

[foggy hazel]

Tomie is in asia or something ? timezone wise

[small osprey]

That explains it

Im on east coast of us

So we have 12 hr difference

[languid nimbus]

But if we did that Naed then Lotion wouldn’t have gotten to level 70+ in a couple of weeks by spamming general

[foggy hazel]

exactly.

[small osprey]

Lmaooo

[stoic island]

that's why you make build-chat only place you gain xp >:D

I wonder if I have the most messages in build chat

[foggy hazel]

the question thou is this: Does deleted messages count?

[stoic island]

yea

whoa

I've sent 1/10 of all messages in #building-and-recc-chat

[foggy hazel]

aye

[languid nimbus]

Jesus

[stoic island]

~25k

Naed sent ~17k

[small osprey]

Helping ppl

Wow that spelling

[foggy hazel]

and that is with me being randomly out of reach for stretches of time

[stoic island]

yea

that 3 month period of just gone

[foggy hazel]

aye

[stoic island]

tryna think who else is active here

[foggy hazel]

Ecks should have a number of posts too

[stoic island]

hei 5k

[languid nimbus]

Nachos

[stoic island]

hm

ecks not showing up

[small osprey]

How do you check that

[foggy hazel]

because not on the server anymore @stoic island

[stoic island]

oh right

[foggy hazel]

so, you have to find him first etc

[stoic island]

yea that's too much work xD

nachos 3k

bob 5k

[small osprey]

Sassy?

[stoic island]

6k

I might actually have the most messages sent in build chat out of everyone

[foggy hazel]

aye, you do

[stoic island]

:)

[foggy hazel]

Box is another you could check

[languid nimbus]

Antago/wideus also pretty active here, but you definitely lead without a doubt lol

[foggy hazel]

but again, like ecks, not on server

[stoic island]

didn't he also leave?

[foggy hazel]

aye

[stoic island]

antago 1k

wideus 2k

whe fun

[languid nimbus]

cntrlkey likely leads in #peripherals-and-displays from consistently changing their mind on every decision ever. lol

[foggy hazel]

he has 2274 posts in there

@small osprey you check by searching for the user and then specifying what channel

Senn has 3108 in there

aye, Senn is the most active in there

with about 1 out of 12 posts being his

[stoic island]

Oh interesting

I have 1.5k in there

even though I know very little about the topic in there

[polar anvil]

need a pc build budget 500

[stoic island]

will try

[foggy hazel]

@polar anvil main use?

[polar anvil]

gaming

@foggy hazel

[foggy hazel]

what resolution and refresh?

[polar anvil]

1080 p 144hz

[stoic island]

eek a fully new build is going to be interesting... 9100f jumped up in price

[foggy hazel]

not realistically happening @polar anvil

[stoic island]

well, unless you start dipping your toes in the used market

@polar anvil what do you think about grabbing an optiplex from ebay and swaping some parts in?

[foggy hazel]

no need to DM me @polar anvil

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel also, quick question, optiplexes usually have motherboards that take a standard 24pin power currect?

[foggy hazel]

heh, some do, some dont

its Dell

[stoic island]

aw

[foggy hazel]

they LOVE their customs

[stoic island]

any way to easily tell?

[foggy hazel]

photo of mainboard :)

[stoic island]

Let's say this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-3020-MT-Intel-Core-i5-4590-3-3GHz-8GB-DDR3-No-HDD-No-OS-14829/293802844189

looks like no..?

[foggy hazel]

aye, that is very much custom :)

welcome to the wonders of Dell :D

[stoic island]

:(

That makes things a bit complicated

I was thinking maybe like a 1660s+SSD+PSU in an optiplex

[lyric thistle]

That poor thing

8 pin

[polar anvil]

Well i will just go to youtube

[foggy hazel]

we cannot help you if you dont answer the questions

[lyric thistle]

I guess it's possible to make or buy an adapter for 8 pin

[polar anvil]

what questions i will anwser it

[lyric thistle]

Same with 14 pin

[foggy hazel]

scroll up Mike

[polar anvil]

im new to pc building

so i dont kno what an optiplex is

[lyric thistle]

Prebuilt office lineup from Dell

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island that is a question for you :)

[stoic island]

hai there

[polar anvil]

?

[lyric thistle]

There's lots of Dell Optiplex models

[polar anvil]

I was lookin at a ryzen 5 2600

[stoic island]

this might help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAFuawsN-1I

that's an optiplex

[lyric thistle]

A lot of them are on 3rd and 4th gen Intel Core series

[polar anvil]

what about ryzen 5 2600 gtx 1650 Gigabyte B450M DS3H mother board Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB Samsung 860 EVO 500GB ssd Seagate BarraCuda 1TB Internal Hard Drive Thermaltake Smart 500W 80+

@foggy hazel

[stoic island]

uhh

use pcpartpicker.com

[foggy hazel]

that is NOT 500

[stoic island]

that sounds like it's over budget

[foggy hazel]

by a LOT

[lyric thistle]

I would go with 3100 instead of 2600 and put the difference into a better gpu

[stoic island]

ima try my best to get a ~500$ gaming pc list

[polar anvil]

how much is that

[foggy hazel]

that 1650 is 150 usd alone

that cpu is 140usd alone

@stoic island hang on a sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RhT27X

that is a "start"

its not pretty

but its a start

[stoic island]

This is about the closest I get to 500$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wW6CLP

yea that looks pretty similar

[foggy hazel]

1650super is worth the extra @stoic island

[stoic island]

yea

[foggy hazel]

same for mp34

[stoic island]

I was just squeezing it down

[polar anvil]

u think i can change case to nzhx h510

[stoic island]

(trying to)

NO

[polar anvil]

why

[foggy hazel]

you dont really have a choice with that budget

[stoic island]

that's just to start

airflow is bad :P

[foggy hazel]

you can either get a "semi-slow" machine

or you can get a fancy paper weight

[polar anvil]

i push like 550

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel but yea I was just trying to squeeze every last 5$ with that list into under 500$

[foggy hazel]

the H510 is the paper weight in case you are in doubt

aye, its not worth pushing it down there

[stoic island]

is the core 1100 decent?

[foggy hazel]

aye. its okay

only a single front fan

[stoic island]

mx330-g is the cheapest case I actually know so yea

[foggy hazel]

but there IS a fan included

[stoic island]

gotcha

[foggy hazel]

and top psu mount

but nothing wrong with the design as such

[polar anvil]

any black friday or cyber monday deals

[stoic island]

this is 550$ then
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nxPPnL

[little osprey]

guys guys

hi

i need

600

build

ty

[foggy hazel]

just scroll up a bit :)

[fleet pagoda]

Naed they decided to buy a 2080ti pre build

Lol

[stoic island]

rip

[foggy hazel]

@fleet pagoda enjoy having to support that :)

[stoic island]

@fleet pagoda now it is your duty to get a 1500$ 3080 build and flex on them :)

[fleet pagoda]

Its 1200 for ot

[foggy hazel]

"ot"?

[fleet pagoda]

It

[stoic island]

actually

you can prob fit a 3080 build under 1200$ lel

[fleet pagoda]

Lmaoo

[stoic island]

lemme make one for fun

[fleet pagoda]

I told them to update the cpu

[foggy hazel]

which vendor are they getting from?

[fleet pagoda]

Oh heres the good part its some guy on facebook

[foggy hazel]

and what is the ETA on it?

[fleet pagoda]

Its used

[foggy hazel]

run @fleet pagoda

run as fast as you can

[stoic island]

LOL

[fleet pagoda]

Im sprinting

[foggy hazel]

and IF you ever return

bring fire

lots and lots of fire

[stoic island]

blocking them on all communication platforms just to be safe

[fleet pagoda]

I live with them

[stoic island]

block their room off

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/escape-im-out-gif-14042189

[stoic island]

hide

[foggy hazel]

it was nice knowing you

[fleet pagoda]

😂

[stoic island]

good luck, you're definitely going to need it

[fleet pagoda]

Ill be buying my own custom build ina few months

[foggy hazel]

but, 1200 is for the full machine?

[fleet pagoda]

Or weeks mahbe

Maybe

Yeah

[foggy hazel]

the price is not bad as such

depending on the parts ofc

[fleet pagoda]

And it has like a i5 8900k 16gb of ram

[foggy hazel]

and the 2080ti is not a bad gpu

[fleet pagoda]

They are gonna update the cpu

[foggy hazel]

do you have the full part list?

[fleet pagoda]

I can get it hol up

[stoic island]

hm

[fleet pagoda]

I texted her

[stoic island]

~1200$ 3080 build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dW8f9N

it's quite tight

but ig it works

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah uh

[foggy hazel]

and yes Mr1111, there is a potential "faster cpu" support problem there :) (in the used build)

[fleet pagoda]

If i was getting a 3080 i would go all out

On everything

[stoic island]

hm?

[fleet pagoda]

Bc why not

[foggy hazel]

chipset support etc

[stoic island]

I was just very skeptical of a random 1200$ 2080ti build from FB

[foggy hazel]

oh yes

[fleet pagoda]

There leaving to pick it up

I might be to late

[foggy hazel]

oh well

as long as they are happy

[fleet pagoda]

Oh wait

Here

[foggy hazel]

and you have a working fire extinguisher

[stoic island]

oof

[fleet pagoda]

I thought it was an i5 nvm ig

[stoic island]

that's still

yea

[fleet pagoda]

Yh

[stoic island]

ultra is dramless

[fleet pagoda]

Is it worth the 1200

[stoic island]

the zotac twin fan design for a 2080ti seems uh

[quasi canopy]

Can someone send me a budget build that would kill the ps5

[foggy hazel]

hahaha, oh boy

that is NOT a good deal at all

[stoic island]

yea...

eek

[foggy hazel]

and forget about "upgrading CPU"

[stoic island]

@quasi canopy Can't beat ps5 budget wise, because next gen budget GPUs aren't out yet, nor the budget CPUs.

[fleet pagoda]

Why naed

[stoic island]

aka. RTX 3060/RX 6700 and the such

[fleet pagoda]

For the cpu

[foggy hazel]

that is from the mainboard support section @fleet pagoda

[stoic island]

but

once those things come out, you might be ble to do smth

[foggy hazel]

7700K is the highest it goes

which is 200mhz on the cpu

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[stoic island]

Basically, in the PC, parts are outdated, and you can't upgrade easily.

you probably want to swap thermal paste on it, quite likely they haven't changed it for 3 years

[foggy hazel]

@fleet pagoda you can tell them that the seller will be laughing all the way to the bank

[stoic island]

SSD is dramless too

[lyric thistle]

paste should be good for 5 years

right?

[stoic island]

@lyric thistle I don't trust stock paste

[lyric thistle]

ofc not 😎

(me with my 5 yr old stock paste)

[stoic island]

yea it might be good for 5 years

[quasi canopy]

I wanted to start playing more competitive I’m currently on console and was wondering if I should get a ps5 or just build a gaming pc

[stoic island]

but I don't want to deal with a dry mess in 5 years

@quasi canopy basically, simplest answer is to just wait for the next generation of budget PC parts to come, should be in a month or two.

[foggy hazel]

@quasi canopy unless you have a fair chunk of money to invest. no. Just get a PS5

[quasi canopy]

I’m was looking for something around 1300