#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 662

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:16 AM

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before

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and im wanting to get into pc gaming

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for the first time

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Budget

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@mystic needle

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tell me budget

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budget for everything

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also do you already have the cpu?

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:17 AM

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my budget is 800 but im willing to go up to 900

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i don’t have the cpu tn

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rn

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:17 AM

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did u already buy it or...

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:18 AM

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but i’ve heard bad things about ryzen so im leaning towards getting an intel cpu

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but yeah i haven’t bought anything at all yet hehe

violet harness Oct 20, 2020, 4:24 AM

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but i’ve heard bad things about ryzen so im leaning towards getting an intel cpu
@mystic needle ur actually wrong there, amd makes better cpu then intel

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:24 AM

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yea

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amd does make better cpus

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but

violet harness Oct 20, 2020, 4:24 AM

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I think intel locks their ram or something

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:24 AM

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they do but u can unlock in xmp

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LJhQVc

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@mystic needle i suggest saving another 200$ and get this

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Really good build

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Could easy get 144+ fps

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But if u really wanna follow budget get this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NnYxYg

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mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:28 AM

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ah i see i se

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see

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@cloud oasis what do u mean by xmp

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:29 AM

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U can still get 144+ fps

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xmp is in bios

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It customizes ur ram

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Watch video on it

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Cant explain good

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:29 AM

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oh okay no worries!

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:29 AM

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or basically “unlock”

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Ukuzi what games are u gonna be playing

odd crypt Oct 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Hey

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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what kind of motherboard do u suggest?

odd crypt Oct 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Ima fix ur build

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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for budget get microatx

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Well for ur budget

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:31 AM

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and im likely going to be playing games like genshin impact and modded games

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:31 AM

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yea 1660ti is enough

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Here um ukuzi

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Imma make amd build

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:33 AM

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1660ti?

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:33 AM

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1660ti bad value

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:33 AM

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wouldnt he be better off with a 1660s

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and use the remaining money to upgrade something else

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:33 AM

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i guess

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fqcXHz

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languid nimbus Oct 20, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Thonk

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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That build isnt bad right

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Wait for 30$ more u could get 2060

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2VhQVc

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@mystic needle

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are u okay with paying just under 1000

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:36 AM

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hold up

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:37 AM

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that's a lot of money on mobo for budget

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:37 AM

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well i could go over 1000 i just don’t like spending too much money LOL

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but im not trying to get like the newest cpu and stuff rn

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:39 AM

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yeah for budget a matx board, a 3600, and a 1660s are pretty sweet altogether

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lemme make revisions based on @cloud oasis list based on knowledge mr1111 gave me

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:41 AM

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well for games like genshin impact and destiny 2 it shouldn’t be too heavy on something around 800-900 dollars right?

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:41 AM

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yea my list is really good

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for 1k

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i think

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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destiny 2 runs fine even on my crappy old pc

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you'll be good

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:43 AM

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wait @mystic needle when are you planning on buying the parts

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because a 2060 rn is like a dollar cheaper than a 1660s

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:44 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bKCxYg

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scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I have a 2060

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It’s aight

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Look for possibly a cheap 2070

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Might be around the same price

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:44 AM

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nah as of now

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anything higher than a 2060s wouldnt be worth it

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:45 AM

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well im thinking of buying as soon as possible

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:45 AM

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ok

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:46 AM

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but i’ve heard newer parts are coming late october so wouldn’t there be cheaper parts? or is that just like....

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:46 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxDLDc

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@mystic needle this is good

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whats the publics opinion on it

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:46 AM

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170 on mobo still

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way too much

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:46 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fbNM8J

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vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:46 AM

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for 900 i'd build like an rx 5700xt + a 3600

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something like that

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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ight thats a list i made

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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mobo?

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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motherboard

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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u put an extra ram kid

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joe

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kit*

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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oh shooot

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my bad

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZg6Xb

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mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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lol!

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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there

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FwG8K3

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balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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and when going budget i wouldnt go with a fully modular psu

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I got 32GB of ddr4 3200MHz ram for like $95 :)

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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why not

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Was a sale

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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usually too much

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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u have a really upgrable

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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and not really needed

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Route

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In his budget so

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And its easier to build and will look nice

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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i see

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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still spending extra money that they could put towards something else

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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??

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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like what

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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like what

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Might aswell get a psu

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fully modular

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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no its not needed

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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and its resusable if he choses to go for another build

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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especially in a low budget

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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^^

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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id rather go with a semi modular or even no modularity at all

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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evga br is decent ig

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for lower budget

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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what does modular mean?

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:51 AM

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so a fully modular psu is one that you can connect the cables youll only need

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:51 AM

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if anything uski might need a Hard drive, is 512 gigs enough for gaming?

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:51 AM

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512 is enough for now

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they can throw in whatever down the line

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:51 AM

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yeah

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a 7200rpm 2 tb hard drive is like 50 bucks or so

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:52 AM

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true.

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@mystic needle

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:52 AM

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so yeah theres space for things like that

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:52 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTvM8J a

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dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:52 AM

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cntrl why do you have a 94$ power supply?

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Psu’s can have good sales sometimes

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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id rather go with a 650w psu

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Its for ukuzi

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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and a 1660s

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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man

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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whats uzukis budget?

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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8-900

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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800 but willing to go 900

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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bruh thats too much for a mobo

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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$8-$900

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Hes gonna play genshin impact and other modded games

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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judging by how difficult it is to do this

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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it's not difficult

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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its not

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Fully modular is ez to build

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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i might just go for something around 1000

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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honestly tho i dont see a reason to get a 3600x

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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we're just trying to get you best for money

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yeah

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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If u go 1k

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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thats why this chat is here

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yes yes

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thank u 🙂

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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and cntrl is trying to make you waste it on things you don't need

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Thats.... a more expandable budget

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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thats a lot of stuff u can get

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yeah

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get a cheaper matx mobo

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:55 AM

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U dont have to

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:55 AM

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and buy cl16 3600 ram

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go for a 2060 too, its on sale

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Hes gonna play genshin impact and modded games

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not very demanding things

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:55 AM

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a 3600x isnt needed tho

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:55 AM

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:/

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:55 AM

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at that point id go straight to a 3700

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:56 AM

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so you’re saying if i were to buy a 3600x it would just be better to go for 3700?

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Ukuzi do you want RGB in your build? like RGB ram and RGB fans?

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if you dont want rgb here is some plain old ram

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:57 AM

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well although it’s cheaper i rly rly like visuals😅

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so that’s why im willing to go up to a 1000 dollar build

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cfMhqp

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mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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just cos im able to afford it yannow?

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and it would be interesting to try more demanding games

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Visuals?

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bet

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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i mean

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the cooler master case looks pretty good

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Ukuzi what is the main colour of your chassis? do you want to go white and black?

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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and the stock cooler doesnt look as bad

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Bro

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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wraith prism is a bop

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Why my teacher up at 1am

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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maybe black

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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100% would recommend if you dislike your ears

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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most likely

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 4:59 AM

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and much prefer your eyes

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 5:00 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qPmtJf

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dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:00 AM

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ok ill find ukuzi a nice black cae

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 5:00 AM

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this is what i would do ig

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idk much about the case though

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:02 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZgTLDc

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vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 5:02 AM

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uh

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:03 AM

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WHY ARE WE BUYING HIM a 170+$ Mobo!

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excessive!

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hold on

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i will make

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a list, below 1000$, with a hard drive, and the same hardware

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:03 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/atfuraxx-homer-stupid-thesimpsons-gif-5266801

Tenor

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this chat right now lmao

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:03 AM

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oh right forgot about the hard drive LOL

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oh wait nvm there’s the yeah

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:04 AM

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yeah! 512 gigs is like nothin

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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yesss it is

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i realize a ps4 is like a cheap cheap pc dkdhsn

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i realize there’s lots of customization to this

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:06 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6G3PsX

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There

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u happy

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Mobo comes with wifi

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Wait

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Will u be using wifi?

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@mystic needle

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:07 AM

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yes yes

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mobo is short for motherboard right?

vapid moth Oct 20, 2020, 5:07 AM

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My budget has, yet again, changed. I've gone from 850 to 1000, could anyone help me make a list for that budget?

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:07 AM

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same here

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this might get a little more complicated now 0.0

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 5:08 AM

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if they're gaming why are you choosing a more powerful cpu instead of gpu

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:08 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KK8GfP

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cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:08 AM

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@vapid moth https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6G3PsX

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next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:08 AM

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this is my list because i managed to fit in 3700x and 2060 lol

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 5:09 AM

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i like ur list

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:09 AM

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honestly get a smaller case if they come in stock lol

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BNGQVc

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dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Meep your list is fantastic, Cntrlkey your list is overbudget and had worse hardware

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@mystic needle

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man

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im taking into fact hes using wifi

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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man

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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and any other stuff

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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we're all enthusiasts here

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we just like pcs

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:12 AM

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I also put a 2060 and 3700

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I can easily take out 3700 and get a 3600

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:12 AM

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ive used that case

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100%

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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cntrlket doing his best ;~;

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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u need an exhaust fan

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esp. with the stock cooler

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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why does ur build say compatibility issue

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meep

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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because the air goes nowhere and overheats

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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mhm mhm

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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because the older bios on b450

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doesnt support 3rd gen

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TqkYrr

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next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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it should now

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its a better board with an older chipset i guess

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Boom

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Thats perfect

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leave it there

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you have a hard drive

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ssd

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good graphics card

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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yes

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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cpu

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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He wanted it to look good so thats why i put the expensive mobo

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with wifi

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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RGB exhaust fan Bored

vital warren Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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performance over aesthetics alwyas

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always

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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what’s with that last one

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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that does not look like an expensive mobo imo

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TqkYrr this?

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next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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no heatsink over top

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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No meep im talking about my previous list

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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for 3600 it should be good

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oh ok makes more sense

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Also nvme is better cuz dont have to deal with wires

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Oh my you sound like the verge but thats O K

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:16 AM

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nvme is faster

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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The main selling point of NVME is its fast af

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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okay but the biggest question here is how do i download more ram😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😓😣😣😣😣

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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less wires is NOT the reason for nvme drive

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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hehehehe

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Also ukuzi if u want asthetics u can just slap sum rgb led strips inside

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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that’s true 😮

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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📎 image0.png

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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So just get my list

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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follow that chart

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to know what color you should use

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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and get phanteks rgb led strips

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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what is exactly is the benefit of a wifi mobo

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Hey meep now that we are done building Uzuki a pc can you give my list a run down?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYZjcT

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uzuki the only benefit is wireless wifi built in

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THATS It

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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get better RGB fans

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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so with other mobos the only way to get internet would have to be ethernet?

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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yea.

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or a USB wifi adapter for like 17$

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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pcie wifi is better

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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pcie?

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Meep i actually dont mind the fans as long as they have performance, the main point of them are to be case fans not cosmetic, the blue lighting is just a bonus as its my fav colour

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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yeah

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then get the arctic fans

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arctic pwn

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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alright

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ill check

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00137A-Value-Pack-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B07HC782D5/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+pwm&qid=1603171326&sr=8-1

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if you can spend the extra 80$ i'd say the 2060 is worth too

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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The heck

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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he asked me about the build in general so im giving tips i guess

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Yes pcie WiFi is better, I use it

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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nah my pc is JUST under budget and im buying it on black friday

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so no 2060

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Spent $40 on it and I can get up to 3000Mbs a second

mystic needle Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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black friday is very good idea

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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ive been saving up money and i also have peripherals in amazon

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Eyyy me too max!

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/EDUP-Bluetooth-3000Mbps-802-11AX-Wireless/dp/B082F5D4SM/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=pcie+wifi+6&qid=1603171423&sr=8-8

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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yea, i bet my 750$ pc will drop to near 680 or lower

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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that wifi card is much better

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much faster and has bluetooth

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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That is literally what I bought but mines black

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Lmao

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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yeah once you put it under a GPU its hard to notice

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since its so short

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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My thermals notice

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Jk

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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tru

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Nah nah

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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also your usb can be usb 3, but thats minor

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Maybe like 1-2C different

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With the right airflow you can choke any component and have it still work 🙂

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It’s worth the $25

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Cause it’s on sale too

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:28 AM

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my pc even with my cheap fans should get good airflow, 2 intake fans in front mesh panel and 1 exaust working with the CPu cooler to pull air away.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Mines in build pics

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Yeah but lemme tell you don’t skimp on fans lol

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Learn what pushes air the best

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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looks good, my pc doent have a way to mount top facing fans i dont think.

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ill check

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Well about that

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Fun fact

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:31 AM

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oh it does, wouldnt be effective without the intake fans on the front, i think i will be fine, total of 4 case fans including the cpu fan.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I have that exact WiFi card installed (no it’s not above the gpu)

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But you can’t see it

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As long as it’s some steady, non stagnant airflow

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Ur G

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:33 AM

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yeah, my current dell xps 8900 prebuilt with a i7-6700 and gt 730 only has one fan, the cpu fan.

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:/

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kid you not

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Can relate

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Fans do make a difference

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:34 AM

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its a dusty one but some compressed air does the job and the thing is litterally so weak it doesnt make any heat

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when i buy my new pc ill have to get used to not leaving it on 24/7

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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That’s why they used to use a lot of metal and a thin fan

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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this prebuilt has been running strait for 2 weeks

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Dang man

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Give the hard drive a break

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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i dont know if i want to, im torn between torturing the thing to death or respecting it for bringing me this far

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Do both

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Viking funeral

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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hahahah

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Respect it tho

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Let the old man go in peace

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:37 AM

#

i actually am probaly going to keep it alive as i intend to sell it to make up costs for the new pc

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the thing is still worth like 600$, some school or office will take it.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:39 AM

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It is very much not but oki doki

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:39 AM

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imagine how in 2016 this thing sold for 1100$ RETAIL. incredible.

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how far we have advanced

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:40 AM

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That

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and price inflation vs worth

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:40 AM

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wow it still is worth alot

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wut

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its gone up in price?

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:42 AM

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No but

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Think about it

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The actual cpu in Newegg is $279

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And that’s for the k version

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:42 AM

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which i dont have

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its just the i7-6700

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:43 AM

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If you can get close to $600 for it then by all means more power to you lol

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Probably not inflated by much tho

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I’d say you could probably build it yourself for $500 or a little less

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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actually the processor i have new is 340$

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Difference of $65 isn’t bad

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Oh weird

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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i have the one with the Intel HD intrgrated graphics

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Oh I see

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Integrated graphics

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I’m gonna miss them

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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and i have around 2133hz memory

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Good for a second monitor without taking up gpu headroom

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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from crucial

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indeed

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ironically the intell HD graphics run better than my graphics card preinstalled but thats another story

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Integrated is weird

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They aren’t as powerful as any gtx card

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Obviously

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But they can work better than a gt card

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:48 AM

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indeed

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haha

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btw even more funny

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there is no default GTX 730 sold on newegg or amazon

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out of stock

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Get 980 ti

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Or did they stop being produced

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Duuude

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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i have one

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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980ti is still good lol

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Can i sell it for 100$

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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More @cloud oasis

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I have 960

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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But we can’t talk about that

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Or 970

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I forgot

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and i lost it somewhere

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Gtx 770-980ti are expensive even tho they’re old

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They were good cards

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:50 AM

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The bracket on it is like broken

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:pepeHands:

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Its bent

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Well the 980ti is still a reliable card

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 AM

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I have 960

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Idk how but it’s still a beast sometimes

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Yea i got like

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More frames than my frames

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and my cpu was always at 100%

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i had like i5 5th gen

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Lol

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Quad or dual core

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Quad right?

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:52 AM

#

also i have one functioning and one broken disk drive + like 4 different ssd readers.

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so yeah about 650$ for my pc

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and it has a 460watt psu of unknown chinese branding

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Idk if I would call those ssd readers

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You might offend ssd’s

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Autocorrect

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:54 AM

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whatever they are the little chips you take out of cameras that have the pictures on them

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my pc has like 4 different size bays for thoes

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:55 AM

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SD cards

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:55 AM

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beta ssd's.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Likely some form of floppy disk and SD readers

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I don’t remember the names

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:55 AM

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hmm

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Speak person

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:56 AM

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speak

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Question, what determines the speed of files being read and transfer over internet? Is it the mother board, CPU, or something else? I recently got access to 2G internet as A test pilot, but my Desktop is capping around 1 G.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Max gets to answer that

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Hard drive/ssd, gennerally even bad cpu's process files pretty fast

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but if you have a slow hard drive or bad ssd it can be slow

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:58 AM

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If you don’t tell them I will

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 5:58 AM

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i have no clue over wifi settings tho, only hardware

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i can barely even forward a port

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Files being transferred on the internet deals with your download and upload speed

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📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png

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The lower, the worse the transfer speeds

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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📎 unknown.png

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Ah!! That makes sense, I thought information read was temporary house in the memory. So if I wanted to increase the upload and download speed I would required a M.2 drive?

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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No.

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not at all haha

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:01 AM

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M.2 would just speed up local stuff

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:01 AM

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go to google and type internet speed test

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then click run, dont need to download anything

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

Max I’m sorry for your loss

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In internet speed

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:01 AM

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it will tell you your internet speed jose

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now that i dont have my vpn running @scarlet spear

📎 unknown.png

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hahaha

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Megabits

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Hey max?

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@dry pine

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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yes?

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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📎 image0.png

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:)

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:05 AM

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suuuuure.

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you went from 17 to 160, you found that image on google.

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I don’t have my computer on me, but when the google fiber agent showed up they preform a speed test, and the test for the agent was twice than my desktop.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I went from 17MB/s to 160Mb/s

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:06 AM

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When I did the same speed test

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:06 AM

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The what?

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Oh yeah

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:06 AM

#

hrmm. its possible that you are losing connection to your router if your pc is far away from it.

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jose do you have walls inbetween your pc and modem?

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it may be interfering

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Your phone can have a faster speed than your normal computer depending on how new it is

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I am hardwiring my pc to the modem.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Ethernet

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Yup

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I wasn’t sure if I needed a new CPU with more threads to get the optimal use of the google 2 gigabytes speed.

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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You need your internet service provider to get you access to faster speeds if that’s what you want

dry pine Oct 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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hrmm no, hardware should not be a issue.

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hey ima head off, have a great night

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Likewise

scarlet spear Oct 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Goodnight max

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Goodnight Jose

undone falcon Oct 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Night everyone

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Could be different type of ethernet cable

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some ethernet cables only support a certain speed

neon condor Oct 20, 2020, 6:28 AM

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📎 Speedtest.jpg

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lisasu2

cloud oasis Oct 20, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Is that fake

cursive wharf Oct 20, 2020, 6:36 AM

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no negative latency, so yeah it's fake

spiral grove Oct 20, 2020, 6:39 AM

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📎 unknown.png

little leaf Oct 20, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Oof

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@spiral grove that list is bad

spiral grove Oct 20, 2020, 6:41 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NMm9W3

System Builder

little leaf Oct 20, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Still the same

spiral grove Oct 20, 2020, 6:44 AM

#

saying something is bad or good is useless, without backing up the statement

little leaf Oct 20, 2020, 6:57 AM

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@spiral grove whats the purpose?

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For one basically everything is overpiced

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Cpu mobo ram

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Number 2 its just a bad combo for that price evn if this was strictly for editing only you wouldve gotten better for the price

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3 you bought windows at msrp

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@spiral grove that enough for you?

shrewd pumice Oct 20, 2020, 7:29 AM

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‪My pc specs!⬇️⬇️

GPU - 3080 Trinity OC
CPU - 9900k (upgrading to 5900x)
Mobo - z390 Aorus Ultra ( upgrading to x570)
Ram - 16 GB 3200 Mhz
PSU - RM850x Watt
SSD - Samsung 970 Evo 500GB x2
Case - CM H500M
Usage - Gaming,Recording,Editing,Browse int

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high mantle Oct 20, 2020, 9:35 AM

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what rgb ram is good for zen 3

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i heard ddr4 4000 but idk

frigid solstice Oct 20, 2020, 10:42 AM

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I am going build my First build and want to know what you guys think and of you have any tips or adjustmemts.
Pc = ryzen 3300x or i5 9400f
Rx 5800 xt
16 gb ram 3000mhz
As rock phantom gaming 4 atx LGA 1200 motherboard

500Gb ssd  m.2 ( samsung 970 evo )

Barracuda 2 tb hdd

I want to spend around 750 euro's.
Eny tips?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 11:45 AM

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@frigid solstice first tip, use pcpartpicker.com

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And go by region, aka.
Uk.pcpartpicker.com
De.pcpartpicker.com
Fr.pcpartpicker.com

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Etc

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@high mantle we don't know how 5th gen will deal with ram, all we know is that AMD used 3600mhz on their slides.

arctic jungle Oct 20, 2020, 12:09 PM

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@high mantle for previous architectures, the faster the ram the better, but don't get ahead of urself... we don't know. Don't break the bank on 4000 mhz memory, but at the same time, don't cry hell and buy 2133 mhz stuff. Wait for benches.

frigid solstice Oct 20, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Oké, tank for the help @stoic island

idle compass Oct 20, 2020, 1:23 PM

#

What you guys think; is this good: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kZZYrr

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:23 PM

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no

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why 9700k xd

idle compass Oct 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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idk

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@idle compass Why those parts

idle compass Oct 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@stoic island I got them from a yt video

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

#

......

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I don't like the youtuber

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I really don't

idle compass Oct 20, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Why

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:25 PM

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8c8t last gen chip for 300$

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plus a 160$ last socket mobo

high mantle Oct 20, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I'm worried about waiting for benches though since a lot of the memory might be bought out once ppl buy all the new cpus in November

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:26 PM

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why exactly would you pay current gen prices for last gen chips?

high mantle Oct 20, 2020, 1:26 PM

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oh well

#

lol

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:27 PM

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@high mantle bruh, did we have a ram shortage when 3rd gen dropped?

high mantle Oct 20, 2020, 1:27 PM

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don't think so but wasn't there one in 2018 or something

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:28 PM

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:P

#

there wasn't any as far as I know

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:29 PM

#

also 4000mhz ram that won’t be supported on intel board ...

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:29 PM

#

What would perform better and wouldnt bottleneck, 3070 x Ryzen 9 3900x or **3070 x i9 9900k ** ?

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:29 PM

#

psu isn’t enough for 3080

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I don’t either will bottleneck the 3070 @sharp bear but if only gaming, 9900k is better. Anything else, 3900x

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:30 PM

#

@idle compass to start off
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s4c8K3

System Builder

high mantle Oct 20, 2020, 1:32 PM

#

how many years u predict before ddr5 will actually faster and cheaper than ddr4 lol

#

I'm guessing 4 years idk

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:33 PM

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@high mantle It'll be faster than most ddr4 ram on day one, price who the hell knows.

high mantle Oct 20, 2020, 1:34 PM

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nah I bet the first few batches of ddr5 will still be slower than overclocked ddr4

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:34 PM

#

you see where I say most?

#

ofc it's not going to beat some 5000c15 ram buildzoid OCed

#

but all the middle of the line ram, 3200c16, 3600c16? It's very likely ddr5 will beat em.

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:39 PM

#

What do you think about this build ?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zqG9W3

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

#

get 3600 cl16 :P

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

#

whats the difference between cl18 ?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

#

fast boi

#

lower latency

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

#

so lower better ?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

#

get NVMe SSD smh

#

Yes

#

lower latency = better

#

get a MP34 512gb/SX8200 pro 512gb/SN750 512gb

#

that PSU is overpriced for what it is

#

you can get a Revolution D.F. 850w for 5$ more

#

or Phanteks Amp 750w for like 5$ less

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:41 PM

#

get a 750w at least for a 3080

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:41 PM

#

meh

coarse coral Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

#

id go 850

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

#

he got a 3070 in that build

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

#

@rustic sandal depending on setup, 650w works fine.
Ofc I'd suggest 750 to start off, but 650 works.

coarse coral Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

#

02eat

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

#

650 for 3070 yes but 750 is recommended for 3080

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:42 PM

#

I didn't say recommended

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I said works

#

3080 might even work off 550w depending on setup

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:44 PM

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right

#

I just don’t know why he picked a $120 650w when you could get a 750 gold for the same price

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:44 PM

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TXM is gold :P

#

wait which list you talking about @rustic sandal

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:45 PM

#

first one. second one is much better imo, psu could be lower in that one for sure though

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sorry I wasn’t clear lol

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:45 PM

#

wha

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which one

#

the one I sent?

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:45 PM

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the one he sent

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:45 PM

#

neither of the last 2 lists have 650w PSUs

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:45 PM

#

off the “youtuber”

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oh wait

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hamzas build is really good

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

no

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

well better

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

look at the ssd

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look at the ram

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

it’s a me’a list was god awful

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

:P

#

and I gave him revisions right above lel

rustic sandal Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

#

I was thinking he just sent a revised list

#

I know hha

#

but I forgot that two different people sent lists, thought it was the same guy. my fault😂

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:47 PM

#

lel

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

#

so this one is better ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xqD9W3

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

#

xd

#

did I say that SSD

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

#

didnt find that lol

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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there are 3 listed

#

all 3 are on pcpp

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

#

😂

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

#

mp34

📎 unknown.png

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sx8200 pro

📎 unknown.png

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SN750

📎 unknown.png

#

how did you find none of them

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:P

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:51 PM

#

thats a bruh

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GP2JVc

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:51 PM

#

smh

#

27in 1080p165hz monitor too big and overpriced imo

#

PCPP is really bad for checking monitors imo

#

G241:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047

lyric thistle Oct 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

#

22" 1080 60Hz 😎

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

#

isnt the g241 too small ?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

#

what

#

@sharp bear 24in is just right for 1080p

#

27in stretches the pixels

#

pixel density becomes bad

sharp bear Oct 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

#

so 27in needs 1440p

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

#

for it to look good yes

lyric thistle Oct 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

#

It would be okay for a more distant monitor

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

#

yea if you like sit really far from your monitor for whatever reason, it might be okay

#

but if you're a normal person that sits at a desk with a monitor on it

#

24in 1080p.

lyric thistle Oct 20, 2020, 1:55 PM

#

I want 20 in

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Or something smaller

#

I already have a 24in, I could wait a few more eons

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

#

4k 20in would look soooo crisp lol

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 2:26 PM

#

32 inch 1080p scares away lots of people

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 2:26 PM

#

unless it's UW

#

UW 32in is ok

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:16 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MbVxYg

System Builder

#

anything i could replace? lmk 👇

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 3:18 PM

#

I will have you know

#

B550m pro4 is nice

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:18 PM

#

whats ur budget and what are you gonna do with it

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:18 PM

#

hopefully no more than 1k

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 3:19 PM

#

oh then slap in a RTX 2060

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:19 PM

#

and im basically just gonna play Overwatch 2 and some other games like minecraft and terraria etc

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 3:19 PM

#

and change PSU to like phanteks amp 650w maybe

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:21 PM

#

alright thanks :)

next kestrel Oct 20, 2020, 3:32 PM

#

ah yes

#

overwatch 2

#

the game that was supposed to come out in early 2019:)

#

also throw any sort of exhaust fan in there

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:34 PM

#

man i hate that it was delayed

#

darn covid

#

also throw any sort of exhaust fan in there
@next kestrel okay ill look thanks

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

#

i think this is the new build with your spec suggestions

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

Hello everyone! I want to build a mid range computer and I have a dilemma between Intel and AMD which is better? Computer for studies and games. Thanks for the helpers

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:51 PM

#

whats your budget?

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:51 PM

#

1000$

#

+-

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:51 PM

#

hmmm

#

studies and games

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

lol

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

yeah

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

how much stuides and how much games

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

he or she needs a 3090 to study

#

definitely

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

yup

#

3090 fiunders edition

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

he

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

founders*

#

thats what you need

#

👍

#

how much stuides and how much games

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:53 PM

#

this is exactly what someone else was asking for earlier today and its about 1k

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YjQm8J

System Builder

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:54 PM

#

thats a good build

#

ngl

blazing steppe Oct 20, 2020, 3:54 PM

#

honestly if I had a 1k budget, I would prob wait for 3070

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:54 PM

#

if i had a 1k budget

#

i would

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:54 PM

#

u think so ?

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:54 PM

#

be

#

happy

#

and i would get

#

good parts

#

👍

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

i wouldnt wait for the 3070

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

same

#

i wouldnt

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

ok

blazing steppe Oct 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

y not?

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

because first of all, even if you take away the 2tb hdd, youll need to upgrade the gpu and the psu

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

cuz

#

no

#

ye

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

to fit your needs

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

e

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

u know how long do I have to wait?

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

prices change all the time

blazing steppe Oct 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

couldn't you spend that time saving up a bit more?

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

yeah

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:57 PM

#

well i gotta go

#

to school

#

cya

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I can question how much money a good gaming computer costs

blazing steppe Oct 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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$600+

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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ty man

well i gotta go
@little osprey

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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np

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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i would spend 700-1k on a mid range "good" pc

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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and a good gaming pc would be like around 800

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yea

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thats what i think

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personaly

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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So if i were to get cyberpunk and watch dogs 3 and play it would this be a great build for those 2 games https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWgxYg

System Builder

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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well cya now

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well actually

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a good pc is around 1000

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a gaming one any way

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itd run good frames if you get the right part

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s

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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yeah 1k-1.5k is generally the sweet spot

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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and you wouldnt have to upgrade is for a while

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so id say 1000 its a good gaming pc

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well cya now

blazing steppe Oct 20, 2020, 4:00 PM

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you could still get a decent one for cheaper but 1k+ is optimal

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 4:00 PM

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if you really dont care about outstanding 1440p performance

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go at around 1k

gentle swan Oct 20, 2020, 4:01 PM

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ohh kk Then I'll wait

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And what about an Intel or AMD processor?

blazing steppe Oct 20, 2020, 4:07 PM

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prob AMD rn for the am4 socket

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there are rumors intel's changing their socket

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Has anyone use this

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Or this

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Well the msi 2390 is for intel but has anyone used the B550 for amd

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@stoic island ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

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trying to make a cyberpunk 2077, watch dogs and future game build

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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oh? so now you are okay with changing parts around @inland parrot ?

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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yeah sure

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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need i remind you of the "but i have already ordered some things" spiel you gave us the other day?

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:33 PM

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yeah dont worry i still have time to return them

lean palm Oct 20, 2020, 5:33 PM

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question: legacy build that i upgraded the SSD, new OS install and everything is back up. for the first 5 minutes of running any programs the system bogs heavy. just clicking a program nothing happens, then it will open after a long delay. once the system goes through this slowness, everything seems to pick up and run normal. no virus's or anything like that. did i replace my fast ssd with a slower ssd or something? i've got everything locked down during startup via msconfig and it still seems to do it

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:33 PM

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my case is not here yet

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWgxYg

System Builder

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:34 PM

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@lean palm check Resource monitor

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:36 PM

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and i want both ssd and hdd

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one has to be a NVME Solid State Drive

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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so, question: if someone suggests something for you. That is actually in your best interest.

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are they going to have to wait about a day or so before you come around to it being in your best interest?

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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sure and I am waiting for the 3070 to come out on october 29,2020

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:37 PM

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just trying to understand the rules you work by

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i will be happy to wait but for not too long tho

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but i will do it

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:40 PM

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well, so far, you have been the limiting factor :)

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go back and look at the first lists you got

polar python Oct 20, 2020, 5:42 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jcyGfP

i need help getting this to 1.2-1.3k

System Builder

lean palm Oct 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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@foggy hazel ill reboot now and watch it

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:43 PM

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@polar python we have been over this before

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bad ssd

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overpriced board

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basically, you are saving on the wrong things

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 5:44 PM

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@inland parrot don't get phantom gaming 4 ac, the ac version takes a m.2 slot off for whatever reason

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@foggy hazel i cant find the build that you sent me unless i am looking in the wrong place

polar python Oct 20, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@polar python we have been over this before
@foggy hazel i couldnt find the build u made me

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plus my budget changed

little leaf Oct 20, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@polar python I made you a list too

polar python Oct 20, 2020, 5:50 PM

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lost that too

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:p

little leaf Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fLXKZZ

System Builder

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@polar python that just shows you are not taking it seriously.

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best of luck.

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@inland parrot #building-and-recc-chat message

little leaf Oct 20, 2020, 5:52 PM

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just change the psu to seasonic focus gold

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:52 PM

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thnaks @foggy hazel

polar python Oct 20, 2020, 5:52 PM

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@polar python that just shows you are not taking it seriously.
@foggy hazel taking what seriously?

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when i was in here my the other day

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my laptop died

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and all my tabs were gone

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:54 PM

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history of chats is tied to your account

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so, ctrl+f works

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@foggy hazel the asus geforce rtx 2060 is in stock

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 5:55 PM

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and?

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@foggy hazel so this build with support cyberpunk 2077, watch dogs and future games

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all I have to do it just ugarde the graphic card, and cpu and I should be fine

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 5:57 PM

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can someone review a build my friend and i were planning? our budget is 1k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87Zhqp

System Builder

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wait no

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xqnbj2

System Builder

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there

polar python Oct 20, 2020, 6:04 PM

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so, ctrl+f works
@foggy hazel that pc is out of my budget 😦

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:04 PM

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@balmy patio it looks solid enough (the second one)

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 6:05 PM

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thanks naed

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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something to consider @balmy patio, remove the HDD and upgrade the SSD to 1tb, and then add in a HDD later.

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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sounds like its worth it

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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anyone got suggestions for a mini itx am4 board

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 6:08 PM

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are you strictly going to build with a mini itx or can you go with a mini atx?

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:09 PM

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its velka 3 lol

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so yeah mitx

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Oh nice

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velka 3 looks neat to have a build in

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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yeah

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:11 PM

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idk if worth getting an x570 in itx form or just stick with b550, since itx is already limited as it is, and on top of that, every frickin mitx am4 board is at least $200 so i just want to know what is the best bang for my buck

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:11 PM

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hm I don't like this selection

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I'm gonna look around newegg rq

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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dang how far we've come tho lol little less than a year ago i looked at itx boards and max memory supported back then was like 32gb

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yea 2x32gb instead of 2x16gb

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180$ aorus pro doesn't look bad
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550i-aorus-pro-ax/p/N82E16813145222

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yeah but that prob cost more than the board kekw

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huh

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didn't know wifi 6 on a mitx could be that cheap

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+usb c? im in lol

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thx

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:13 PM

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:)

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:14 PM

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the only other $180 board i saw last night didn't have half the features of this one

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ig i should check more than just amazon lel

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tf ddr4-5300?

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this board is sick

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@gritty zenith ask @mild trout about his parts

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he has a build in a Ncase m1

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i mean i already got the parts i need just missing the cpu fan. i was asking bout the board bc i plan on upgrading board/cpu within like a month of the build

upbeat lodge Oct 20, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Do you have to refill liquid coolers

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For a cpu

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7WmHNP

System Builder

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mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:26 PM

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?? who's doing the m1 build

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:26 PM

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you misread :)

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:27 PM

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me?

upbeat lodge Oct 20, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Do I need to refill it ?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Naed you might've @ the wrong person

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@upbeat lodge bro why you changing it again

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B460 board? come on

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ML240 lite is....

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ick

upbeat lodge Oct 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Cus want to OC my i5

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@stoic island nope, right one :)

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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okay

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so you're going to OC it

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and then you go for a trash motherboard?

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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@gritty zenith can I see your parts list? CPU socket placement is very important for the M1 if you go with a cpu cooler like the c14s. I'd be wary of the B550 Aorus that @stoic island recommended, while it's a good board the CPU socket is not centered and the coolers like the c14s are not compatible.

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@mild trout it was not that HE was doing a build in a m1. It was that YOU had done one. (it was basically a mention of your relevance towards what he is doing)

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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ah my bad

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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yeah im doing velka 3

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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velka 3 is tite

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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idk how much different the dimensions are

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@foggy hazel so that is the build that you want me to use for future games and cyberpunk

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@inland parrot ask again after the 28th of october

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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lol

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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im using a jonsbo hp-400 cpu cooler bc its supposed to be as good or better than the noctua L9i

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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who is getting the 3070 on october 29th

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i am just need to save up for it

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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*who is not broke

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i think that's what you meant

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imma wait til there is a 3060 mini itx in like 2 years

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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who is getting the 3070 on october 29th
@inland parrot prob not the 29th but later when it looses its hype

gritty zenith Oct 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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good answer

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finally got my first brand new gpu today 😄

inland parrot Oct 20, 2020, 6:37 PM

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@balmy patio yeah i might do that too

meager pumice Oct 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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@paper walrus you left handed witht the g502?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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@mild trout ?

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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my bad

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misread earlier

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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yea it was velka 3 lel

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Dumb

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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and since they didn't yeet a list at me before asking for a list, I think they're still on the starting from scratch with case+mobo, and no set cooler yet

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That is interesting that M1 has issue with non-centered sockets, @mild trout good to know.

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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yeah np pretty sure it's only an issue with the chonky boy cpu coolers like the c14s

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wouldn't happen to know anything about afterburner would you?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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a bit

final breach Oct 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Aight, this is what im going with. Any opposition? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B9WNNP

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@upbeat lodge now that I think about it, you probably don't even know, but B460 CHIPSET DOESN'T EVEN SUPPORT OVERCLOCKING

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so I dunno where you're getting the idea of overclocking on your list from

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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any idea on why raising my memory clock mhz is raising the entire core clock frequency/volt curve?

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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wait it is..?

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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yes....

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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its on the 3080

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Yea no idea

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I think the only ones that might know are the ones that have fooled around with it themselves

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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if I raise the memory clock and click apply all the points jump up by 10-15mhz for the core clock

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foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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because my first reaction would be: That is how it is wired in the GPU

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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F

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:56 PM

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remember when i said i was surprised at nvidia for pushing their silicon that hard?

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:57 PM

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ya but what's that have to do with the software telling the memory to go faster and includes core clocks.... 😦

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:57 PM

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"because my first reaction would be: That is how it is wired in the GPU"

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if one domain is linked to another in there (in some way)

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not much you can do about it

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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kk

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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you know, I was semi concerned that rtk wasn't going to read my message about B460 not even supporting OCing, but then I remembered he's been changing around the list for the past week and isn't buying for another few months :P

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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:)

final breach Oct 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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aight

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opinions

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBZ6Xb

System Builder

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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this is pretty much constantly topping out during gaming - if I can push the memory up like 500mhz should I see a significant gain in performance or is it not worth investing in completely re-doing my voltage curve?

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I know it's stable +500 I just don't want to re-do the curve.

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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only ones that know are the ones that have had access to the hardware and done testing themselves @mild trout

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sorry :/

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@foggy hazel where would be a good resource to finding this type of research

upbeat lodge Oct 20, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@stoic island okay

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I didn’t know that

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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hmm ... try and ask Forks from inside #overclocking @mild trout

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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kk

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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or maybe Fitz knows too

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its just not an area i follow all that closely

cursive wharf Oct 20, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@mild trout firstly I want to make sure that temps aren't changing when you're modifying the curve. You mod the curve at say 50c GPU temp and let it drop by 10c, GPU boost will edit the curve itself and make it 15MHz higher. So if you mod the curve, mod the mem freq but give the GPU enough time to lower temps, then the volt/freq graph will change due to temps but give the illusion of memory changing it

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Also iirc you have to edit voltage curve, hit apply, then edit mem freq, hit apply again to see if it's the cause. When you hit apply during voltage editor it tries to round to nearest 15Mhz. Sometimes I find it's a bit jank. Say I set it to 1500MHz exactly it'd actually jump upto 1515MHz. So I'd usually set it to 1490MHz - 1499MHz and let it round up to 1500MHz

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Could still be a 3080 thing that I dont know of tho. Am getting one rather soon so I can look into it soon ™️

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Hi can someone help me I want to build my own pc but I have no idea how to

small osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Start by watching some vids

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Search up linus tech tips first pov build

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And watch the vid

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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ah yes

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thats how i got into computers

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watching linus

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I did I watched lots of videos thats what made me interested in the concept

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But it still confusing like I dont what to get I kinda understand how to put it together tho

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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what confuses you

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@little osprey watch the LTT first person guide rq

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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yeah that really helps you in knowing where everything goes

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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what confuses you
@balmy patio What parts to get and what is compatible

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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oh

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jus use pcpartpicker

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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List making is fun

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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yeah

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Experience is what matters for list making

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:)

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@little osprey watch the LTT first person guide rq
@stoic island I did the one where its in linus's vision

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Screw around and give it to us, we'll edit it

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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yeah id trust in mr1111 to edit my list

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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That's how you learn part value and what to get, trial and error with the lists, and knowing their value.

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Ok

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Where I make

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List

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/

Pick parts. Build your PC. Compare and share.

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

System Builder

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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oh yeah

still roostBOT Oct 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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throughscott#9415 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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the second link should send you directly to the part of the website where you create ur list

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Okay dont judge if I make something trash

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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we wont judge

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Lol

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K

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Pcpp doesn't have some parts listed now, things are a bit wacky, but still works

inner raptor Oct 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Pls

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Is this a pcie or eps

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little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Okay is this okay or no lol idk https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hr9bj2

System Builder

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@inner raptor that is 4+4 , so EPS

inner raptor Oct 20, 2020, 9:01 PM

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K thanks

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@little osprey whats ur budget and ur purpose for the pc

autumn wolf Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@little osprey i assume this is a gaming/workstation pc with a 2060ko and 32gb of ram. my suggestion is get a cheaper case and use those saved funds and go for a better cpu and motherboard

inner raptor Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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The eps cable goes here right

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foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@inner raptor correct.

autumn wolf Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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as well as a nvme for faster load times such as the mp34

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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yeah

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@little osprey whats ur budget and ur purpose for the pc
@balmy patio Around 1k usd budget and Im using it for gaming

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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ok

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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also note @inner raptor questions like this are answered by your mainboard manual :)

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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you dont need 32gb for gameing

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@little osprey i assume this is a gaming/workstation pc with a 2060ko and 32gb of ram. my suggestion is get a cheaper case and use those saved funds and go for a better cpu and motherboard
@autumn wolf Yes what case is good

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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well first of all

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Wait

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

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How much is alr ram the

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@little osprey first thing to know, a lot of nzxt cases are bad for airflow, especially H510

autumn wolf Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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if just for gaming, you can go to 16gb of ram to save some money to put towards a better cpu

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87Zhqp

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Let's get there one step at a time

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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wait no

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wrong ssd

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ignore

inner raptor Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Sorry the manual is hard to understand

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@little osprey first thing to know, a lot of nzxt cases are bad for airflow, especially H510
Okay

inner raptor Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Lol

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@inner raptor nothing to be sorry about, just giving you the information in case you didnt know :)

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Second, AMD Zen 2 CPUs are a good bit better than Zen+ CPUs in gaming because of IPC gains, and Zen 3 (new ones that are coming soon) will be even better.

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So a 5600x>3600>2600

balmy patio Oct 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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so will this work for you @little osprey , https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xqnbj2

System Builder

mild trout Oct 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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@cursive wharf The apply thing you mention is exactly what is happening. Currently I run a benchmark, if it passes a benchmark I undervolt more, rinse and repeat until it can no longer pass. There is a wait time before I do each test as I adjust the curve and such. It's usually around low 40c high 30c before I start the test again.

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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so will this work for you @little osprey , https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xqnbj2
@balmy patio It is good for moderate gaming?

System Builder

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@little osprey I'm gonna keep telling you the why about the part changes so you can learn, and not just have a good list :)

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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So a 5600x>3600>2600
@stoic island Ah okay so the cpu in my list is good

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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In the list you started off with, uh no

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3600 is better

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Like 20% better kind of better

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AMD ain't Intel with their 2% gains over each generation.

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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( yet )

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Any other manufacturers than Amd and intel

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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( let's hope it continues )

little osprey Oct 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Of cpu's

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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CPU? None really for consumers.

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I'm not counting the Chinese one

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Or the server ones

foggy hazel Oct 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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for consumers? no.

stoic island Oct 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Next, we get to CPU cooler