except, with the 4xx chipset, you are cutting away the old support at the same time (when upgrading to the 4000 series support bios)
#building-and-recc-chat
foggy hazel
spiral zealot
^
The big question for each brand is going to be, if I upgrade to 4000 series BIOS on my B450, what support am I losing at the same time.
foggy hazel
aye, not IF. but WHAT.
frail shuttle
Im planning on getting an x570 to support the 4xxx with a 3080 on pcie gen 4 and have better ram support under that CPU
spiral zealot
Yeah, you'll be golden with that setup.
frail shuttle
Feel like so much technology enhanced with such little time. I just built my PC beginning of 2019 and now the new parts are twice as good as what i got
spiral zealot
I technically took a step back with my current system. I was on an R5 2600, and went to a first gen Threadripper. But I had a use case for it and the prices have dropped so much that it was trivial to switch over.
Maybe once Zen 3 comes out and 4th gen threadripper as well, I'll pick up something like a 2950x if the prices drop again.
foggy hazel
yes, that might be the case, but those parts did not give you the (hopefully) fun times you have had since you built your machine @frail shuttle
spiral zealot
And then ride that as long as I can before I switch off X399
frail shuttle
well now im interested in how much of a performance difference was the threadripper from the 2600 as far as gaming goes?
spiral zealot
Not much, it clocks higher, but games don't take advantage of the full 12 cores for the most part.
I'm doing a lot of virtualization on the machine now though, so having the 12c/24t and 32GB RAM has worked very well forme.
The bit of gaming I do on it has improved more from the 5600XT I bought, which I was planning on doing even if I had stayed on the 2600.
frail shuttle
All i mainly do is game on triple monitors, and now programs that my electrical engineering degree uses such as intel quantum.
outer heart
what’s the difference between the r7 2700x and the r5 3600
still roostBOT
Awesomeness6326#5681 has been warned
tall oak
bruh
hexed sequoia
good afternoon everyone quick question dose any one use the ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming wanted to know if its a good mobo to get?
cursive patio
Would a 1660s and a Ryzen 7 3700x with a Asus rog strix B550 with 16gb of ram be a good streaming and gaming setup
analog hearth
Up the GPU
cursive patio
what you recommend i up the GPU to
cursive patio
um i have 710 dollars and im willing to go to about 850
stoic island
Yea okay use pcpartpicker
forest sky
Is a intel i9 10gen and rtx 3080 a good combination
cursive patio
on pc part picker it says that the MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card
or should i still look for another one
stoic island
@forest sky use pcpartpicker :p
hearty wharf
Got it coming in this week!
Build pics will come soon
little osprey
@ those talking about Warzone performance. I have a 9900k on a 2080ti and on 1440p I get anywhere from like 60-120ish fps with high settings and AA on. I thought Id be getting better performance than that which is a little disappointing but it could also be bad optimization within the game. In the new Avengers game I get anywhere from 60-100ish fps on high settings as well which I dont like. I thought with my setup on 1440p Id be getting higher fps than I am which is making me consider getting a 3080
stoic island
Uhhh
That is an interesting PSU
@little osprey wonder if you have RTX on
That could decrease fps by quite a lot
little osprey
Ray tracing? No its off
stoic island
I was sad with my like 80fps in warzone at 1080p on high with a 2070, then I turned off rtx :p
little osprey
I wish my lower performance was because of RTX but it isnt sadly
Not that 80--120ish fps is bad performance, I just thought Id be getting higher
stoic island
Weird
I would think so too
Oh I wonder, there was also. The render resolution that messed me up in warzone, did you check to make sure it was rendering at 1440p
little osprey
Yes
stoic island
Because dragging the slider all the way right does 4k
1440p and 1080p are somewhere in the middle
little osprey
Yeah no, I dont have it set that high. Its set at 100% which is rendering at 1440
stoic island
I looked up a random benchmark because I was curious, you should be getting around 140fps it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLyUKJ9I_oo
little osprey
Yeah im definitely not getting that kind of FPS in my Warzone
stoic island
maybe it's time to do some troubleshooting with random stuff?
little osprey
I dont even know where to start. I just did a fresh install of windows and all my drivers within the last couple weeks so everythings pretty fesh
fresh*
stoic island
could also try OCing CPU to 5ghz but that's always a risk
little osprey
I believe mines running around 4.6 when playing
stoic island
Doesn't really matter too much, just take a quick look around settings, maybe compare it against that guy who did the benchmark first
Might as well try to look around a bit more and see if there is some software issue maybe that's causing you pain
little osprey
Any idea what software that hes using in this video thats on the left side of the screen? Thats pretty n ice
nice*
little osprey
I use afterburner myself
stoic island
I made a random benchmark once lemme find it to show you how it can look with afterburner
oh wait I guess I never enabled cpu usage and all that good stuff
only fps
whatever
little osprey
1 thing I find odd is when I reboot my system and MSI Afterburner loads up, sometimes itll have my onboard video card instead of my 2080ti. So I close afterburner and relaunch it and fixes it but does afterburner do that to others at all?
stoic island
Oh wait something easy you can check
power settings
the battery saver vs best performance
little osprey
Within Windows? Mines on Performance
stoic island
and I doubt warzone is running off your iGPU if you get 80fps on 1440p xD
that's just msi afterburner being wacky for you I guess
little osprey
Of course it isnt, I just find it weird that afterburner sometimes reads my onboard card instead of my 2080ti
stoic island
but anyways in MSI afterburner, in settings, there's a OSD section
for on screen display
I might have a picture of it somewhere
found one
little osprey
hmm that "show in On-screen Display" isn't on my Afterburner... odd
stoic island
Oh right you need to download RTSS first
Riva tuner statistics server
I can prob find a guide to setting up afterburner
little osprey
Working on this now, thank you Mr1111
stoic island
You're welcome
little osprey
what do u guys think of a 3600 and 2060 being put toghether
little osprey
So I ran the same exact settings as the guy in that video Mr1111 and I was getting anywhere from 90ish-110ish fps. Not even close to what he is getting. Now, my CPU isn't OC'd to 5ghz sso theres that but could that be whats making such a big difference?
Looks like my CPU is hovering around 4.7ghz when playing
Can that .300 make that big of a difference in fps?
The guy in that video is getting super high fps with the same setup as mine and Im getting 90-120ish where hes getting like 150+
pliant wren
Im planning to get the 3070, if im going to get an 800w PSU does it matter if it's bronze or gold?
lusty gazelle
yo im looking for a good/cheap type of cpu cooler do you all think this cooler is good enough?
cursive patio
would this be good for streaming and gaming
This is what I think im gonna buy for my pc AMD Ryzen 5 3600x, Gigabyte B550 AORUS Elite AX , GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra and it comes out to be $707
With 16gb of ram
untold trail
are there any monitors of similar quality for a similar price?
or any advice on monitors in general
viral ore
1080p @ 60hz has been around for years and years now, there are so many monitors just like this out in the wild
from businesses to schools
to literally almost every prebuilt pc coming with a 1080p 60hz monitor in the past 5 years
ripe wedge
you could get a sceptre 144hz for like $140
little osprey
Anyone know any OC guides for pushing my 9900k up to 5ghz from 4.7?
foggy hazel
@little osprey check the pins in #overclocking
little osprey
Thank you @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
best of luck, try and ask down there, the crazies that roam that channel should be able to help if you are serious about it :)
mint gust
If anyone here can help me I am currently building my pc but everytime I install windows 10 into my new pc it blue screens within 10 minutes of using it. Could this be faulty wiring? Becuase I even bought 3 new hard drives and it still don’t work
civic kiln
rate my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MgVqx6
untold trail
nice thanks
fast dust
@mint gust sounds like a memory problem to me. Try running a memory diagnostic in bios or something
@civic kiln looks good, only a couple of things
- do you already have that 1060 or are you getting it used or smth? Usually they're overpriced on the used market. a 3gb should be like $85 max
- you need fans for that case
ripe wedge
even $85 is a little high
lyric thistle
Also could check event viewer
civic kiln
I also got the case gifted to me
fast dust
oh also Ella, for only $10 more you can get a 2tb Barracuda hard drive, so id do that
fast dust
so yeah, get some case fans, and then do that nice little hard drive upgrade
3-5 case fans is recommended for that case
night iron
Here’s my build list if anybody thinks of any improvements let me know. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Bosswoman3/saved/
foggy hazel
@night iron 2 simple suggestions: change ram to 2*16 and save some money. Go with dual m.2 instead of m.2+2.5
night iron
Okay I will do that @foggy hazel
twin jetty
Want to double check this MB & CPU setup, despite what the "New Egg PC builder" saying is compatible. Pretty sure it isn't via MSI website. Just to late to call in and ask and validate. The MSI B550-A PRO is NOT compatibility with an AMD RYZEN 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz correct?
little leaf
@night iron I also suggest not going with samsung ssds and something like the mp34 or sn750 what. Ever is the cheapest
And is it for gaming of work
night iron
High end streaming and video editing @little leaf
little leaf
I see
spiral zealot
@twin jetty that's correct, B550 is not compatible with 2000 series
has a full compatibility matrix
twin jetty
@spiral zealot Thank you for the Sanity check there. I told Newegg support they were wrong and they said Nope lol
haughty ocean
Anyone know if a ryzen 5 will be good enough for the 3070 or will I want a ryzen 7?
small heron
Ims use my 3700x and 650w for my 3080 :)
peak aspen
Hi everyone
Can someone give me some advice to build a PC for engineering only, not gaming
Thank you very much
peak aspen
My budget for the desktop is 1k
peak aspen
2019
small heron
Elaborate
little osprey
Someone just offered me an Asus rog Strix 1070ti for my gigabyte 570
foggy hazel
@peak aspen Autodesk or something else?
peak aspen
Yes Autodesk
foggy hazel
the 1k is usd?
peak aspen
Yes Naed
foggy hazel
and is that "just" for the case with machine?
peak aspen
Yes just the desktop.
foggy hazel
so, no monitors or anything
peak aspen
Yes
foggy hazel
give me a moment
peak aspen
Thank you !
foggy hazel
@peak aspen can you budge to 1080 usd?
small heron
I mean I ou could just buy a used optiplex
If min aceps are 3ghz
Specs
@peak aspen soon to be or new
Or experienced
Kinda said the same thing
peak aspen
Sure I can
foggy hazel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r49kCL then that is a very solid build
BUT
keep the following in mind
small heron
I only know how to make a gaming pc smh ill juat watch as a spectator
foggy hazel
i would strongly suggest upgrading the case to something that is less "gamery" and more "steel"
small heron
Phat bottleneck in anysort of gpu task
foggy hazel
and also adding in a proper cooler down the line.
and also @peak aspen keep in mind, this is a "foundation" for a machine
you are simply too low in budget to get some of the really "fun" stuff. BUT you have the foundation in mainboard+cpu+ram+storage+psu for getting a CAD centric GPU later down the line IF you need it
does that make sense @peak aspen ?
peak aspen
Ok it makes sense to me.
Any suggest for the case that you said?
You can go futher the bubget
foggy hazel
2sec
languid nimbus
3900x may drop in price soon too, considering conference in like 3 weeks or so
foggy hazel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MbrNXv <- @peak aspen that is the updated list (both Case and cpu cooler has been added)
those two changes makes it a very low noise system
small heron
Stealth cad
foggy hazel
its a workstation, its not supposed to take your attention.
small heron
My pc is to big to not notice
foggy hazel
now, the next question for you @peak aspen. When are you planning to build/buy it?
foggy hazel
raspberry-pi.
desert gulch
Naed can you make me a list for like autocad and that sort of thing? Budget is 1300 just for the pc
foggy hazel
basically take the list above and scale it up is my gut feel for it @desert gulch
midnight matrix
Hello ppl
peak aspen
I will plan build it this week
desert gulch
Hello
small heron
@foggy hazel should my laptop keep randomly turning on after i put it to sleep
foggy hazel
@peak aspen okay, then go for it. as it is, its a solid build, and as i said, the foundation is solid.
midnight matrix
Guys should I build a bugget pc or get a bike?
foggy hazel
@desert gulch i will help you in a moment. just have to finish up with Nam first :)
desert gulch
Ok thanks!
peak aspen
I am good with this list
foggy hazel
@midnight matrix thats a question that is best answered in #general-chat
peak aspen
I will wait to see the list for Ryan lol
midnight matrix
Oh crap I thought this was general sorry
foggy hazel
last piece of info, windows license you can find for a max of 15 usd
small heron
@midnight matrix pc outside is In essential
desert gulch
Yeah you can find pro keys for like 3 dollar on ebay
foggy hazel
@desert gulch any particular needs for the machine aside from what you said above?
desert gulch
Nope
desert gulch
oki
yeah the build is for me mum
she a civil engineer and is on a hp pavilion from like 2010
that thing has a Igpu and no ssd, which really sucks
peak aspen
Lol
foggy hazel
hmmmm
that is a wee bit annoying,
so, here is the problem @desert gulch
a faster gpu wont get you much
what gets you something is more cores
but the next step in cpu brings the total to 1440usd
and yes, obviously you can scale the ssd
but that aint going to "matter"
its "just" storage
foggy hazel
and the one GPU that could be an upgrade has an ETA of (best estimate) 28th of september
foggy hazel
well, she got monitors right now right?
foggy hazel
then no, you wont get anywhere imo on a laptop at that budget
because part of the cost would be going into that
which you technically dont need
desert gulch
yeah
so on an old pc
with windows 10
can you transfer the windows key to a new build
foggy hazel
the build i posted for Nam is a solid machine
you can always just try to clone the disk
foggy hazel
aye, then you just clone and everything works
ive done that countless times for people over the years :)
desert gulch
ok cool
foggy hazel
you will ofc need a usb stick for the cloning software
and for ease of doing the cloning. The target drive should be bigger than the source drive
but that should not be a problem.
does that answer you question(s) @desert gulch ?
desert gulch
Yes thanks
foggy hazel
and again, technically you "could" scale some of the parts down to get the faster CPU in the list. BUT
for a system you would be working with daily? i would not recommend it
because as i said to Nam
its a solid foundation
foggy hazel
they are oem keys
meaning, technically only good for one set of hardware
in theory
desert gulch
Yeah
small heron
So if you bought official license could you just keep using
neon condor
Yeah dual channel memory is great but if you're gonna do it you should go 2x8GB.
Which is why I was saying one 8GB stick to start and get another once they had more money.
small heron
How many uses
little osprey
Can I get some help, I ran into a problem with my pc that required me to unplug it while it was running and now my hard drive isn’t being recognized, could unplugging it have broken it in a way or corrupted it?
small heron
Or inf
little osprey
Cause I need to know if I need a new one I, my os drive is literally only big enough for the os
Probably corrupted
You may need to do a full drive reformat
foggy hazel
@small heron infinity in theory.
little osprey
@little osprey
All right thank you
Guys i have questions problem with the monitor i purchased 2 months ago from newegg
foggy hazel
@little osprey if you dont say more, we cannot answer you :)
little osprey
i was t yping 1 sec
Guys is there anyone that can help me out with monitor? i purchased this vg278qr monitor..there's an invisible line in the center of my screen right now, everytime if there's letter or image it looks split
like this
won't let me post image
little osprey
I see image
midnight matrix
Sexy motherboard
midnight matrix
Yes
floral flare
199?
midnight flame
BRUH THERES SOME THAT ARE OVER 1K XXXDDD
little osprey
I saw one for $415
midnight flame
noice
little osprey
Overpriced
midnight flame
sounds like something i wont be getting for years cuz im a fricken 13 year old with no money XXDD
little osprey
But I'll have it one-day...maybe
floral flare
little osprey
I'm 19 with no money and maybe no home soon so...
midnight flame
@floral flare what gpu you got?
floral flare
I can’t type now
little osprey
But yeah I'm trying to build an almost all, hopefully all, Asus custom desktop
floral flare
I am using my phone
midnight flame
@little osprey might want to get a job :/
floral flare
Only one game, and CPU died
little osprey
@midnight flame I have one
midnight flame
do you not make much off of it???
little osprey
Not really
midnight flame
im sorry bro
little osprey
🤷♂️
floral flare
little osprey
Just got an Asus rog Strix 5500xt so...
floral flare
@little osprey ask your mom to get some money, build a $2k desktop, you can use for the next 5 years
But also study hard at school
little osprey
@floral flare 😂😂😂😂
I owe them $4k
if i asked my mom for money she would laugh me out of her house
And can't afford school so.....
floral flare
🤣
Ok, then
When I was 19, I purchased a $500 laptop, use my financial aid
And use it for 5 years
little osprey
I'm working 4 hour days at $9/hour
when i was 18 i saved up a years worth of money from work
to build my first deskstop
floral flare
I am using a inter nuc now
little osprey
I also have a junker car that needs quite a few repairs
floral flare
And ready to build my first desktop, budget $2k all my own
floral flare
little osprey
...
little osprey
Custom laptop
Actually...might be a 2070
And what to know what he uses it for?
Soda dungeon 2
floral flare
for better feeling
little osprey
That's all
floral flare
no lag
little osprey
Soda dungeon 2, no other game
floral flare
obsidian wolf
Will it work??
foggy hazel
not placed as it is right there @obsidian wolf
obsidian wolf
I don’t really know how to adjust it :v
foggy hazel
it might be the angle of the picture that is messing with me here
but normally the way you put in so-dimm is to put the module in at an angle to the slot
obsidian wolf
foggy hazel
and then flip it down so the clips on the sides "click" into place
obsidian wolf
neon condor
Oof laptop RAM. 😒
foggy hazel
foggy hazel
that looks right
foggy hazel
and you "heard" the click this time right?
obsidian wolf
And also when I take out
It was burning
and you "heard" the click this time right?
@foggy hazel yep
foggy hazel
when you say "burning" do you mean actual fire or do you mean it was hot?
obsidian wolf
Hot
Lol
But it smells like burning
:v
But it was because of the paper stick to the back of it
foggy hazel
cross your fingers that you have not short-circuited the ram sticks
foggy hazel
try with the sticks, one at a time.
obsidian wolf
Caps lock it’s lightning off and on :v
But I do not feel the overheating
Yep is hot
Really hot
:v
foggy hazel
congrats, you borked something.
obsidian wolf
Oh I found is the ram is not compatible or something because I just add back the original and the computer turn on
:vvv
This thing is to old :vv
foggy hazel
ah, so the thing that is borked is your ability to read the manual :P
obsidian wolf
Nope is not that, I’m fact is a gift and also I researched that it could go up to 8gb ram that’s was the one I just try to install
But no it did not work
obsidian wolf
But anyways thx for the help men
foggy hazel
you are welcome, hope you can use the ram in something else
tough carbon
just a greedy retailer
little osprey
what should i pay for a 1080ti msi gaming x
tough carbon
around 300/400
200 if you can get a really good deal
card is an old flagship and still good so it’s not so cheap as everyone wanted it to be
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D7GZgJ $1500 lol
granite delta
That mobo is eh
spiral grove
pallid hull
cursive wharf
@little osprey should change that around.
If you can afford $14 over budget:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jtPwGc
If you can afford $50 over budget: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rvTGsk
also get RTX 3070 instead of 2070S, same price
proven anvil
What might be some reasons why my pc isn’t booting for the first time?
desert gulch
Are a'll the fans spinning @proven anvil
drifting timber
@proven anvil check the power connectors
proven anvil
@desert gulch no, none of them are going
drifting timber
@proven anvil are you trying to power it on via case button or directly on mb if it has that
proven anvil
Case button
sleek sleet
drifting timber
did you check the connection from case button to mb to make sure you did it correctly
proven anvil
Ok will do thanks
drifting timber
cool
silver mica
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xd9VrV anyone wanna look over it
little osprey
@cursive wharf u have no clue what im doing
im doing streaming and a bit of gaming
stoic island
@little osprey even so, both lists are good.
exotic marten
@silver mica personally would go with a 850w or above considering 3080 gonna be pulling 350w on high load and 9900k overclocked will be drawing the watts as well
quasi girder
Hey does anyone know of a great monitor for $400?
quasi girder
@stoic island 1440
stoic island
see above
weary bluff
@tired turtle just curious, why do you keep your bottom monitor like that?
calm crypt
I’m in another server an someone recommended that for a 1500$ 3070 build
Am I confused or is that whole thing horrible value with an x570 and 3200 speed ram?
calm crypt
Yeap
vital warren
thats a meh example
calm crypt
Yea it could be better but like
calm crypt
LMAO I didn’t even realize god that’s insane
peak shore
I would pair this with a 5700xt that I already own. I also own a Corsair rm750, but I'm thinking of selling it because the connectors are impossible to work with for sleeving
stoic island
@calm crypt that is bad value
@peak shore do you already have things in that list orrr
peak shore
I don't have any of the things in the list
stoic island
time to edit
peak shore
I would likely wait for ryzen 4000
stoic island
I'd like to change everything in that list other than the NVMe ram and psu
peak shore
Higher clock speed, more potential oc room
peak shore
I think the cost difference is only like $30-40
peak shore
I think cpu is probably just place holder anyway, I would rather look to a $300-350 part from zen 2+ coming up
peak shore
I thought zen 3 was 5nm
peak shore
2x1b is cheaper than 1x2tb
peak shore
And I will use one of those drives as a dedicated work drive for my DAW, plugins, and samples
The other would be for various media and games that I didn't want on my C drive
peak shore
Tbf i just organized the list by price per GB and went cheap
stoic island
Any reason for sx8200 specifically? It's a good drive, but you can save a bit by going MP34 with the same specs
peak shore
The mini itx/ micro case is aesthetics based and pretty specific
peak shore
I had read that it performs very well for what I intend to use it for, but wasn't nearly as expensive as the samsung drives
stoic island
Eh, you can leave it in there if it has some high specific speeds for smth
MP34 is a great general cheap drive
You need wifi?
peak shore
I guess important things for C:\ would be sustained write performance for large directories.
I don't need wifi
stoic island
I'm not very familiar with all the sustained writes and different random writes and stuff so
alright
viral ore
you want good sustained writes for wherever youre installing your steam games too lol
peak shore
I do want a mostly black pcb with an attractive I/O shield for mobo
viral ore
i just woke up
peak shore
Yeah steam will be on C:\
small heron
My 500gb wd black hopefully ZOOMS
viral ore
are you planning on getting any secondary storage?
small heron
Yea
peak shore
Most games are gonna be on C:\
viral ore
ooh theres a list
small heron
Ill be getting a couple 1tb sata ssd
peak shore
Yeah I wanted to stay away from full atx for mobo and case too lol
stoic island
why's that? I thought you said that was just a looks choice
peak shore
It is, but that's very important to me
viral ore
so, i like the 3600 CL16, but we still have no idea what Zen 3s IMC or FCLK is like
stoic island
but we do know they're on the same press so I doubt it'll be that much better
e die could oc a bit to maybe 3800mhz if needed
viral ore
i mostly mean architecture wise
peak shore
Is it likely that 3600 will be relatively slow on zen 3?
peak shore
Seems strange, but I've never run ram faster than 3200 to this point anyway
viral ore
i mean, you would think that increasing the clock speed of CCX to CCX communication would be a good thing
stoic island
Well single ccx ccd with shared cache
viral ore
and that would be a way for amd to also increase perf
stoic island
They still are designing it for dual ccd
viral ore
i would expect AMD to push it a wee bit farther
upper condor
Cring
stoic island
it's not gonna be monolithic die kinda mem perf
upper condor
Both suck butt cheeks
jagged ember
you could have built your own
jagged ember
Mr1111's config should be enough for roblox
stoic island
like grab that and a SFF 1650
jagged ember
but that core 2 duo has to go
unless it doesn't?
Hm
would have just saved up...
stoic island
@viral ore wanna take it to #cpus-mobo-and-memory
viral ore
well, i have schoolwork im supposed to be doing anyway 
jagged ember
save up until you have enough
stoic island
aight
viral ore
bye
stoic island
I'm in class lol
jagged ember
but it's too late now
stoic island
bored asf
viral ore
lol
mossy citrus
viral ore
i usually am too
jagged ember
bids not good on ebay though
always go over
just in general they aren't good lol
haha if that's your thing
roblox only, right?
oh, oh okay
stoic island
1650 used is around 140$ it seems
I'm taking about the 200$ build
a 60$ optiplex+140$ 1650
:P
optiplex has the other stuff
:P
Yes
even a good iGPU can get you good roblox lel
bro a gtx1650 can shred roblox
highest settings
calm crypt
On roblox u could run all high dude
stoic island
:P
peak shore
So this and think about $400-$450 for a cpu and cooler when ever zen 3 comes out. But I guess I would wait to buy everything at once https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJGr27
jagged ember
you can put all on high lmao
stoic island
@peak shore why mATX again?
jagged ember
a 1650 is a decent card
calm crypt
I payed roblox on a two core igpu sixth gen Intel laptop on all high
peak shore
Because it looks good
stoic island
I'm gonna laugh at you thinking we're gonna laugh
jagged ember
whoa
calm crypt
... where’s the gpu
peak shore
Is that just a fan for an old evga gpu?
stoic island
at that point get a full optiplex
jagged ember
yeah
calm crypt
Yea fr
jagged ember
you made the right choice lmao
calm crypt
Too small
I got a sff and referent it too hard to work on
And that’s not the gpu that’s a fan
stoic island
jagged ember
oo
jagged ember
cable management is not a concern for the gpu, at least
do u have the box it came in
calm crypt
Make sure u get a gpu tho and not just the fan it’ll be around 130$
jagged ember
put it back in the box with all the packaging stuff
tape the box shut and just go to a post office
ask them how to send it back
okay
outer heart
should i buy a second fan for the top mount or stick with 2 front and 1 back?
be quiet! pure base 500
stoic island
@outer heart you already have 2 on front?
idle echo
yuh
a geforce what
1080
1060
yeah itll run roblox
you dont need a 144hz monitor for roblox though
little osprey
Roblox with ray tracing
idle echo
did they really add ray tracing
i thought that was a joke among my roblox friends
zero frame means not much plastic border around the edge
so it takes up less space on desk
stoic island
it's not frame rate
they usually call it 0 bezel
that just means 1080p
for the price ehm
idle echo
its solid for the price
next kestrel
calm crypt
Yea go with the other drive but also if it were me I’d get a used 1070 they go from around 150-200 and usually outperform a 1660s but are a little older
north dagger
whats a good budget atx case?
stoic island
@grave drum what you tryna do with the pc, just gaming?
analog hearth
I better not read "NZXT..."
robust plover
My pc wont pick up my internal hdd
stoic island
What monitor you looking at?
grave drum
that's a fat rip
grave drum
um im going to get a sceptre ips 24" 165 hz
stoic island
If bios isn't, change sata ports
grave drum
for 180
stoic island
If only windows doesn't, initialize the drive in disk manager
Wait wait wait you're getting 10850k+3070 for 1080p165hz?
analog hearth
ooh I might get a white TD500 Mesh eventually
stoic island
Yea me too tbh
It's such a good case for everything
360mm top rad support, 3x argb fans included, 170mm cpu cooler clearance
And looks nice all for 100$
stoic island
@grave drum have you looked into getting a 1440p144hz monitor? Also, does the 1600$ budget include monitor?
grave drum
scdkeys stopped selling windows 10 keys
grave drum
true
stoic island
I got 2 3$ win10 pro keys from eBay that both worked lel
stoic island
I'll brb but my suggestion is a 3600+RTX3070 build with a 300$ 1440p144hz monitor
Monitor like this one
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015
robust plover
Ok
stoic island
Sometimes f2
robust plover
I'm using the b450m ds3h
stoic island
I'll make that list and build in a bit
robust plover
So it picks it up but I cant download stuff to it
stoic island
That means you haven't initialised the drive in windows
So restart and boot into windows
robust plover
I did
little osprey
Is a td500 mesh compatible with a x62 on the top
stoic island
Prob, why not? Is the rad especially thick or something?
little osprey
Gamer nexus says 120, 240, 360mm
robust plover
So its picked up in the boot menu but not in windows
little osprey
Guess I can't get it
Will stick with the h710 bc it fits
vital warren
stoic island
No idea why it wouldn't support a 280mm rad...
vital warren
it can on the front just not the top apparently^^
tired turtle
@weary bluff was actually just testing the layout and I kinda fell in love with it! The bottom monitor is 240hz top 4K so they both have their exact use cases so they are used equally and before I had the 240hz as vertical when I stopped playing games but it was so annoying if I did want to play so the stacked just... worked out way better lol and I actually like it a LOT 😄
little osprey
Found a forum post someone can't get their x62 on the top bc it hits the motherboard too
stoic island
Yes
You see where it says unallocated
So the drive is there
Just windows can't access it without formatting it
robust plover
Ok so what do I do
weary bluff
huh ok
weary bluff
i have mine side by side but i dont have a mount
stoic island
It should have an option for initialising the drive or formatting the drive
tired turtle
I Did have side by side before but my 4K is 27” and 240hz is 25” so it looks funky I need to replace the 25” with something new at some point make them the same
weary bluff
i like that you have the high res and the high hz monitor
robust plover
I did it says new simple volume,properties and help
stoic island
New simple volume then
tired turtle
Yeah I couldn’t get the best of both worlds in one package if that were the case I’d have only one monitor I’m a huge fan on single monitor setups
stoic island
Use NTFS
tired turtle
But I need one for editing one for gaming 😋
stoic island
And default unit size or whatever
weary bluff
yeah i see, thats really cool. Mine are 1440p-144hz and a random 1080p
robust plover
It wants me to type under ntfs
stoic island
Default
tired turtle
Nice! 1440p gaming i think is going to become the mainstream thing with the 30 series I’ll be looking into them as well
stoic island
Oh wait where it says drive letter or name?
tired turtle
Just a more pleasant experience
stoic island
Haven't done it in a while, take a screenshot real quick maybe?
robust plover
tired turtle
Alr I have a meeting coming up here, Nice chatting with ya 👋
weary bluff
alright cya
robust plover
This is what I see
robust plover
stoic island
Now that's NTFS and default, uncheck quick format
And label the volume whatever you want
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6sw4Rk
can someone please give me a case+cooler combo for this? dont think what i have now will work. if it's AIO i'd like it to be top mounted
robust plover
It says formatting
robust plover
It's a 1tb so yeah
little osprey
i dont have arctic freezer coolers in my store
frail shuttle
I have a random question, with nvidia surround on triple monitors, i am having an issue with fullscreen videos not allowing me to select where i want to skip to in the video. Its as if the video is trying to stretch to all 3, the but the software wont allow it to do so, so it is confined too a single monitor. How do i keep the video fullscreen on one monitor with the gui working correctly while nvidia surround is active?
little osprey
i was going to get a d15 before, but i was worried that the 3080s are going to make it overheat or something. is that true?
if its not a problem with the new cards i would honestly prefer it to any aio
oh dangit and i can't get the td500 mesh either. is there like a second best case rn
stoic island
We'll get testing tomorrow
So we'll see
I'm 99% sure GN is going to cover it
Have you see how much testing setup they got going right now?
little osprey
yeah. i'm confident in them lol
ok how about the pure base 500dx. that seems to be the next best case i can find in stock here
little osprey
pretty good tho. GN likes it
stoic island
GN says it's decent
Not as good as other cases in the prices range such as td 500 mesh
And P400a
little osprey
do i have to have the absolute best thermal case or can i get something a couple steps down
stoic island
Yea it's fine I'm joking around
gray plank
@stoic island what do you think about this one?
XFX - AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT RAW II PRO 6GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card
thorn dirge
wdym not good
little osprey
he's gonna change your stuff to amd lol
little leaf
not necessarily
With this budget you could get a 10600kf
with a d15 and slap a hefty oc
desert gulch
I would take out the 240hz imo
thorn dirge
it can easly get 240hz
desert gulch
Yeah
earnest ravine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7xDGsk could i get someones opinion
desert gulch
Lower latency ram
neat mortar
change the ram to 16 gb he is saying it’s will only be like $15 more
little leaf
neat mortar
oh i see
little leaf
something like this
neat mortar
my bad
little leaf
@thorn dirge
thorn dirge
why in your opinion would you change the mobo
thorn dirge
air cooler not water
thorn dirge
wouldnt it be able to easily produce 240hz
earnest ravine
little leaf
get p1
earnest ravine
whats p1
thorn dirge
so would my build work good now? your are just recommending changes
earnest ravine
@little leaf
little leaf
a ssd
earnest ravine
o ok
foggy hazel
@thorn dirge your expectations and the reality of the hardware do not align
so i would suggest that you read up on what refresh rate is
and what frame rate is
thorn dirge
i kno fps is frames from computer refresh rate is the monitor refreshing images
little leaf
do you need wifi?
grave drum
what cpu are you getting?
thorn dirge
me? i7 10700k
grave drum
oh ok
foggy hazel
@thorn dirge yes, but are you aware of how they relate to each other? because your question seems to indicate, quite strongly, that you dont.
grave drum
that motherboard will work with 10th gen intel processors and it supports lga 1200 which is what the 10700k has
thorn dirge
@grave drum what are your opinions on this build for the 3070 https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/pd/14333415
foggy hazel
@little leaf i think this is one of those that it might be smarter to just walk away from, unless you want the mental punishment?
stoic island
I like the list except 3600c16 might not be necessary on Intel.
wind mason
Am I the only one here who doesn’t have a pc
little leaf
ye
grave drum
probably
foggy hazel
@wind mason that belongs in #general-chat
earnest ravine
thorn dirge
what do you suggest I change it too @stoic island
earnest ravine
@little leaf
grave drum
what gpu are you getting @earnest ravine?
stoic island
Go research the difference between FPS and Refresh rate :p
earnest ravine
stoic island
@earnest ravine yea looks fine
earnest ravine
ok thx
thorn dirge
what are you suggesting I change my monitor and thats it @stoic island
stoic island
Research it, it's good information.
peak shore
Even if you have a 240hz monitor, if your fps is only 60 you'll only be looking at 60 images a second.
Or more accurately, you will see one image four times, then another image four times, until you've seen 60 images.
If you can't feed a monitor as many or more frames per second as the monitor's refresh rate in hz, then you aren't getting the full benefit of having a high refresh rate.
blissful forge
yo quick question. so i want to get one of the new gpu's 3070 or 3080. Would a i7 8700 be great for that and also my mobo doesnt support 4th gen pcie will it run it just fine or will there be a huge bottleneck between either of the parts
foggy hazel
re: pcie-4: from what we know right this second. Not a problem.
re: 8700 be great?: Reviews are out tomorrow, ask after that. We simply dont know yet
blissful forge
alright good. cause i was looking for a mobo that supports pcie 4th gen and is intel but they were all super expensive or out of stock. i think it will be good but im just super nervous about it lol
foggy hazel
relax and wait until we have had time to read the reviews
deep skiff
no intel cpu/mobo can use pcie 4.0 right now
spiral zealot
^
proven vessel
Whats the importance of a motherboard
little osprey
uhh everything goes on it
deep skiff
^
proven vessel
Thats it
deep skiff
without it nothing works
foggy hazel
estimated power that the system can use
vocal plover
could i build a pc that runs fortnite decently for under $600?
little leaf
yes
tough carbon
definitely
either go nvidia or amd for the gpu but I would recommend amd because less power usage but nvidia for more power
tough carbon
With the RX 500 series
nvidia gpus are more powerful but use a lot more power
but I think that you would either get an rtx 2060 or a gtx 1070 or 60
stoic island
Bruh
tough carbon
or better depending on how you balance your budget
little leaf
什么？
stoic island
Rx 580 vs Nvidia card of similar price
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-RX-580-vs-GeForce-GTX-1650-SUPER/3736vs4167
Just look at tdp
foggy hazel
@tough carbon could you do everyone a favour and actually read up on the stuff you keep talking about?
tough carbon
okay damn no need for that
little leaf
我想你不子到你说什么
tough carbon
not the best at info and such
foggy hazel
you are giving "wrong" advice in a channel that is intended for helping.
tough carbon
okay okay I do more research
foggy hazel
then ask.
if you have been around a while, you should know that any honestly asked question WILL get an answer.
foggy hazel
that depends on you being able to ask a question.
stoic island
Spam the text block
We'll read it
And I'll give up after not understanding, and ping Naed :D
languid nimbus
past harness
AHHHHHH
I hate this
i typed all of it u
p
and apparently i[ cussed sumwhere ahhh
stoic island
Rip