#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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Chrisr

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You didn't push it in?

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C5

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I did

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I pushed pretty hard

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Well

unborn solstice
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wait so the code changed to c5?

little osprey
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Not enough to snap it but yeah

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Well I apologize that I'm this dumb

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Thanks for the help but

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And*

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yeah it did

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C5

unborn solstice
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ok lemme see

little osprey
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I feel bad

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I wasted your time

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Oh he's probably gone

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Huh

unborn solstice
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nah ur fine. you’d be surprised how many people dont have the ram all the way clicked in. they assume they only need the end with the tab to click

little osprey
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I thought I heard both click at the same tkme

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Time

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I always hold both sides down

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It's always the simple stuff lol

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Probably about time to get a new one though

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New ram?

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Mhm

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You should get faster one and 2x instead of one stick

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This one came in with a prebuilt PC bought from a bad website

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Ah

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Scrapped that and the PSU

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Same with the hard drive but I dont think that works

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Maybe, no idea

unborn solstice
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what is your pc doing now?

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is the c5 code stopping the boot? the internet isnt very sure what it means

little osprey
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No it's one

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LEDs, fans, power on

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No signal

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From GPU

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Lemme try this

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Even though it's from 2007

unborn solstice
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yeah try clearing cmos like u did earlier

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same way

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just dont unplug the ram this time lol

little osprey
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Unplug the uhh

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Power

unborn solstice
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3 steps: switch power supply off; unplug from wall; press power button to discharge

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then u can hit the cmos button

little osprey
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I unplugged from the back of the PC

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Press power button?

unborn solstice
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yes. after its unplugged

tough carbon
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if you are clearing cmos, unplug power, remove cmos battery, then try to power it on for about 10 seconds

little osprey
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I can't

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Take it out

unborn solstice
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it gets rid of anything left in the psu

tough carbon
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Is there a clip holding it down anywhere near it?

little osprey
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There's like

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A layer if

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Of

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Metal

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Over it

tough carbon
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Can you remove that layer of metal?

little osprey
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And the GPU slots only the holes are open

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I could

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Not entirely sure if I want too

tough carbon
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Remove the metal layer, then tell me what you see next.

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You have to in order to clear CMOS.

little osprey
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I have a button

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On the back

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That has a cmos button

tough carbon
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Do you know what it does

little osprey
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Cmos restart

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Or

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Clear cmos

tough carbon
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okay well I don't know if you should press it, but just try to. Might be a push out or reset

unborn solstice
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@little osprey are u holding the button down?

little osprey
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I didn't press the power button

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Do I just

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Press it

unborn solstice
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u need to hold it for like 10 sec

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ok wait

little osprey
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Like I'm a bit confused

unborn solstice
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im gonna give u some steps.

tough carbon
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is the button specifically a cmos reset?

little osprey
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I got the manual

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For some reason the manual doesn't

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Say the exact correct page

unborn solstice
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1: switch power supply off. 2: unplug from wall. 3: press power button. 4: press and hold CMOS button for about 10 sec. 5: plug back in and try to boot

tough carbon
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If the button doesn't do anything, try taking the battery out, then hold power or reset button.

unborn solstice
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hold on

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let him do one thing at a time

little osprey
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No wait period

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After holding

unborn solstice
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no. if u did all 5 steps u should be good to try to boot

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lmk if that doesnt work

little osprey
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No

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Did not work

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Still C5

unborn solstice
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ok then u should try what bruh was suggesting and take the battery out

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but wait

little osprey
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Ah

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I see

unborn solstice
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make sure i did steps 1-3 before u touch the mobo

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u*

little osprey
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Uhh

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I've used this power supply before.

unborn solstice
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what?

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thats not the issue

tough carbon
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okay so about that cmos reset button.

unborn solstice
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u gotta do what i said with the psu to discharge it safely and the n remove the battery

tough carbon
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Did it work out, or did it still give a post error?

unborn solstice
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error

tough carbon
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okay did he disconnect the psu

unborn solstice
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not sure

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he hasnt responded

little osprey
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Sorry

tough carbon
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Okay so you wanna make sure to disconnect the psu, unless you have a CMOS reset button on the rear I/O.

little osprey
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Was uhh googling

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Ok so

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From my old PC

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RAM 8GB

unborn solstice
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we did the cmos button. didnt work @tough carbon

little osprey
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And the PSU

tough carbon
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Did you check to see if the ram modules you are using are ddr4? If not, how old was your older pc?

little osprey
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Uhh

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No idea

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To be fair

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Pre buikt

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Built

tough carbon
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When did you get the old pc

little osprey
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Uhh let's see

tough carbon
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And how old was the old pc

little osprey
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I got it for Christmas

tough carbon
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Do you know what cpu you had in the old one?

little osprey
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Mhm

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Have all the specs

tough carbon
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Okay, can I get the cpu info?

little osprey
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Its whole worth is 666 so

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Yeah lemme

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Ryzen 3 2400x

tough carbon
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Okay so it is ddr4.

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Have you already tested the modules from your old pc?

little osprey
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Modules?

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(Real new to PC stuff)

tough carbon
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Yes, the ram modules. Do you know if they work?

little osprey
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Yes

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Used them before

tough carbon
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Okay, so you need a CMOS reset

little osprey
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I can mention that uhh

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My old GPU ports shorted

tough carbon
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okay, that's some good info.

little osprey
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No dmg on plug in to motherboard

tough carbon
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What error is the board giving you again?

little osprey
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C5

tough carbon
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Okay lemme check

little osprey
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Before 10

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But solved that

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Uhh

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C5

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Isnt really

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there

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On document

tough carbon
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Alright so you might have a ram slot problem.

little osprey
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fun

tough carbon
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How many sticks of ram do you have in the board

little osprey
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1

tough carbon
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Okay, try plugging that stick into a different board.

little osprey
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Just the 1 sadly

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A different motherboard

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Or slot

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my sense of understanding is really low

tough carbon
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put it in a different slot on the board. There are four with yours, choose a different one.

unborn solstice
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no

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it should be in A2 on most mobos.

little osprey
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Same thing

unborn solstice
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some are real picky

little osprey
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I'll try that

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no

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Christ

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Faulty slots?

tough carbon
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according to some people on reddit who have the same error, it might be just a memory configuration error, and slot A1 is infamous.

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A1 is the first slot btw.

little osprey
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I already

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ik

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ok*

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Uhh

tough carbon
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did it work in a different slot?

little osprey
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No

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Tried all slots

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Not A3

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But

tough carbon
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damn.

little osprey
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Could try that

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Probably not tho5

unborn solstice
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wait a3?

little osprey
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Though

odd crypt
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Hey guys

little osprey
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I have 4 slots

odd crypt
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Can i ask for some help?

unborn solstice
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is this not a dual channel mobo?

tough carbon
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sure! Always here to help!

little osprey
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Its uhh

odd crypt
tough carbon
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Its 4 slot, and dual channel

unborn solstice
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usually theyre labeled a1 a2 b1 b2

odd crypt
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Is this a good build?

tough carbon
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Pc part picker, that's what I like to see

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Lemme check

little osprey
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ASRock A550 taichi

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Is what I have

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I can snag a link

unborn solstice
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well im sorry i couldnt help. i really dont know whats wrong. i have to meet a guy in like 9 hrs so imma go to bed. gl tho

tough carbon
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@odd crypt big, you are gonna want to change that to for example, a ryzen 1600AF, the ryzen 3 will be a bottleneck for some games.

little osprey
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Alright

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Thanks

tough carbon
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I can help if you want

odd crypt
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So what will i change it too?

tough carbon
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Try the ryzen 5 1600af. It's a first gen ryzen, but 12nm and no graphics.

odd crypt
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Its 200

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It wont fit in my budget

tough carbon
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The 1660 super will be bottlenecked.

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Okay, lemme check.

odd crypt
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Maybe a 2600?

tough carbon
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Precisely, you read my mind.

odd crypt
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Hmm im lazy could you do that for me lol

tough carbon
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sure, I'll do that.

odd crypt
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K

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I might take out that 2 tb

tough carbon
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Also, get a lower wattage psu. You'll save money, and it will be more efficient.

odd crypt
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I really dont see a point

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Also put that on there too lol

tough carbon
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Will do

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Alright, so it is a little better, lower wattage psu but better cpu.

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Also, are you using the barracuda as a storage drive, or game drive?

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And are you using the ssd for games too, or just a boot drive?

foggy hazel
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cough

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dont use that psu.

odd crypt
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Idk

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Im just gonna stream and play games

tough carbon
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yeah the 80+ rating is kinda bad is it

foggy hazel
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no. the unit itself it just not a good one.

tough carbon
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Okay, so you might wanna tone down a bit on the ssd.

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okay, well let me revise a bit.

odd crypt
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Ok

tough carbon
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Okay, let me know if you like this.

odd crypt
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Its good

tough carbon
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Alright. So that should be good for a while. And you do have a lot of upgrade room for a better gpu/cpu over time

odd crypt
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Yea

tough carbon
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So have a good time! Hope you get to enjoy your games pretty soon! I'm signing off.

little osprey
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Was able to get to the uhh

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Battery

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2 jumper cmos

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No idea where they are

foggy hazel
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@little osprey mainboard manual is your friend for that

little osprey
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yeah I wish

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not everything

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Is in there

foggy hazel
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@little osprey what mainboard model

little osprey
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B550 taichi

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Asrock

foggy hazel
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cmos reset is listed in there

little osprey
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it is

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Well

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Some of it

tough carbon
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Does it have 3 pins with a jumper?

little osprey
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2 pins

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Cant find where its at

foggy hazel
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read page 9

little osprey
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The pages aren't accurate

foggy hazel
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or page 35

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there is a page number on the page itself

little osprey
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2.7

foggy hazel
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its not the "document reader page number"

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you are looking in the quick guide.

little osprey
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I only got 2 guides

foggy hazel
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guide is NOT the manual

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and the info IS in there.

little osprey
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Alright thanks

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Looking for the error code C5

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though it's not in there

foggy hazel
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if you are using 2 or more sticks or ram, change it to just 1 stick

little osprey
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I only have 1

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It worked before on a old PC

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New motherboard too

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8GB

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Switched slot to alot

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Slot*

foggy hazel
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disassemble and try again.

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best of luck.

little osprey
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Like unplug and replug

tough carbon
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He meant remove all the parts and try again.

little osprey
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well

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Uhh

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Moved the uhh

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Ram slot

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And its

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Jumping

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And its off

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Nothing

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No lights off of the thing

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A1
A2
B1 this slot
B2

tough carbon
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Is it posting?

little osprey
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Like

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The red

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Is not there

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Blank

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Like its "off"

tough carbon
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So no error code then

little osprey
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No

tough carbon
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Just a blank board

little osprey
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Led works

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CPU fan did

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Infact

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Go super fast

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Then slowed

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Now it's at a pace

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So

tough carbon
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That's a sign that the bios is booting.

little osprey
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Ag

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Ah

tough carbon
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Do you have a display connected

little osprey
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No I took out my GPU

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To get

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Under the shell

tough carbon
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Okay, connect your display straight to the board.

little osprey
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My motherboard?

tough carbon
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Yu are gonna have to use integrated graphics for now until it gets booting.

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Yes, on the motherboard.

little osprey
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My AMD doesnt support it

tough carbon
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Okay, what kind of plug are you using

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HDMI, displayport,

little osprey
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Hdmi

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I can use both

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Or one or the other

tough carbon
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Okay, plug your hdmi cord into the motherboard.

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There should be a port on the rear I/O.

little osprey
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No display

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Or no signal

foggy hazel
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@tough carbon not going to work when there is NO igpu in the cpu.

little osprey
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Yeah thought so

tough carbon
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what cpu is it

little osprey
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700x

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I've been awake for too long

foggy hazel
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leave things as they are. BUT, put the GPU back in

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then power on the system

tough carbon
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Okay, that's not going to work then. Plug your GPU back into the board, and try to see if you'll get a display from that.

little osprey
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Alright

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Who knew the third slot

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Would of done something

tough carbon
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That means that you probably have faulty memory slots.

little osprey
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Yeah

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Oh well

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That sucks

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Not surprised

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To be honest

tough carbon
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Alright, make sure to plug the GPU into the first pcie x16 slot.

little osprey
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Oh yeah

tough carbon
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Yeah you might wanna get a refund from that

little osprey
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Because

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I cant

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past the month

tough carbon
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Damn

little osprey
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I'll live with it, and with my luck

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Probably not

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Literally my luck is just

tough carbon
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yeah do you at least have it insured?

little osprey
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Negative

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No

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I should of

tough carbon
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Damn

little osprey
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Inreally shouldnof

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The second it came I realized

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I didn't

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I was gonna

tough carbon
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try asking for support from Asrock. You'll probably have to pay, or they might be generous to send a new board.

little osprey
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it's fine, I learned my lesson

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To be fair

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It's

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A big

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Upgrade

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From a 50 dollar motherboard

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all so I can download more mods into skyrim

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then regret it

tough carbon
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Well, if you can, try using the older motherboard. 3rd gen ryzen is compatible with 2nd gen ryzen chipsets.

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Is it a b450 motherboard?

little osprey
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The new one is uhh

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B550

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The old one

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Is a crappy gigabyte

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My chrome book probably runs almost as good as it

tough carbon
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Yeah, but do you know what it is?

little osprey
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Uhh

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Lemme grab uh

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My screenshit

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Shot

tough carbon
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aleight

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alright

little osprey
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I plan on making it a test computer

tough carbon
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Okay, lemme check if its compatible.

foggy hazel
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try asking for support from Asrock. You'll probably have to pay, or they might be generous to send a new board. <- not how it works at all

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RMA is RMA

tough carbon
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Gotcha. Don't really have much experience with custom parts, mostly just modded regular prebuilt parts for a while.

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Yeah, no 3rd gen ryzen support, especially for your cpu.the 3700x has a tdp hiher than 65w, and the vrms won't be able to handle it. Also, it seems MSI is the only manufacturer with support.

little osprey
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Oh I knew my CPU wouldn't work

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Ohhh for Future reference

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Ah

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I honestly planned on either as I said test PC or just sell it

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Or make it disappear

foggy hazel
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the 3700x is natively supported on the b550 chipset.

tough carbon
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Yeah, since the board uses a cheap chipset, the vrms will also be within the cheap range, AMD won't be able to give enough power without overheating.

foggy hazel
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so that is not the problem.

little osprey
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Mhm

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But I did play DayZ on low graphics well

tough carbon
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Yes, but I am saying if he can downgrade to the a320m, since his b550 board is defective.

little osprey
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No its fine

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I'll live with it for now

foggy hazel
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no, he cannot.

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is the simple answer.

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and with that, i am out. Work time.

tough carbon
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That's what I had said. Cpu is too power hungry, and not all boards with the chipset don't have the micro code.

little osprey
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Night shift or timezone

foggy hazel
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tz

little osprey
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Ah

tough carbon
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Its 12 for me so I might have to get off in a while

little osprey
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3 for me

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anyways thanks for the help

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It really did help

tough carbon
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No problem. Always happy to help a fellow gamer.

little osprey
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slowly learning how to do PC stuff

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even cleaned my old motherboard from coffee

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Spill

tough carbon
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Don't worry, you'll get the hang of it. Its complicated at first, but you'll get it.

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And also oof that's tough

little osprey
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yes

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Especially

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After I left it alone

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Was too scared to touch it

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But after taking it apart I got some insight

tough carbon
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Yeah, next time it happens, quickly turn it off, and discharge it all the way. Electronics are almost undamaged if there is no current running through it.

little osprey
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That's what I did

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Not even a second went by

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It actually worked out though

tough carbon
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That's good. Definitely helps if you wanna clean it fast.

little osprey
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Every thing was fine

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The GPU I had shorted because I dropped a monitor

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More slid off

tough carbon
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Alright, well I gotta get off, way too late for me.

little osprey
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Alrighty

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Again thanks

tough carbon
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And also that's really unfortunate.

little osprey
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with my luck

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you'd be surprised

tough carbon
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No problem! Happy gaming and good luck

little osprey
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well

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funny

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no signal

obtuse nexus
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Hello

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Can I ask for help

foggy hazel
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ask your question, and if someone has the knowledge/time/desire to help, they will.

obtuse nexus
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Thank you

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My pc have no display. I tried reseattingthe ram and cmos battery but i still have no display

foggy hazel
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specs?

obtuse nexus
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All I get is black screen after saying "hdmi no signal"

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Ryzen 5 3600
Aorus RX 5700 XT
MSI B550 Tomahawk
GSkill Trident Z Neo 8x2 3200mhz

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My sister used this pclast wednesday and didnt used it after windows update.

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Dont know what happened since im staying in at the office and i only have the chance to go home when its my rest day

foggy hazel
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you have checked that the monitor cable has not come loose/been moved right?

obtuse nexus
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Yes ivechecked the cables and tried to plug it in another port in my gpu

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Still sayinn hdmi no signal

foggy hazel
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you should only have 1 hdmi port in your gpu

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the others should be displayport

obtuse nexus
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Aorus 5700xt have 3 hdmi and 3 display port I think

foggy hazel
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hm, interesting choice from their side :)

obtuse nexus
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Yep 3 hdmi and 3 dp

foggy hazel
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and yes, it does indeed have a equal split

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that is not "normal" :)

obtuse nexus
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Imgetting nervous since this is my first pc build

foggy hazel
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how long has the system been working for?

obtuse nexus
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Hmm built it last Aug 17

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Came home today to replace the thermal paste but yeah no display

foggy hazel
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then whatever is wrong, is 99.99% just bad luck.

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when you power on the machine, does the fans spin?

obtuse nexus
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Damn

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Yes all fan spin

foggy hazel
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you dont by chance have another GPU ?

obtuse nexus
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I dont have

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Such badluck

foggy hazel
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i would recommend that you do the following things:

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pull the ram, try with 1 stick at a time.

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btw, have you checked the EZ debug leds on the mainboard @obtuse nexus ?

obtuse nexus
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pull the ram, try with 1 stick at a time.
@foggy hazel itried this still no display

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No ez debug awhile ago but now it shows VGA

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Here I am currently reseatting everything again

foggy hazel
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when you have the system put together again.

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do tell me what the EZ debug led says please.

obtuse nexus
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Ok will do

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Thank you

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome, you are the one doing the work in this case :)

obtuse nexus
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It says vga

foggy hazel
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darn

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double and triple check the power plugs

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that go to the VGA card

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dont just rely on "the fans are spinning"

obtuse nexus
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It worked

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It somehow worked

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I tried setting it to Silent profile

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Turned on my pc and it worked

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I tried putting it back to bios oc mode and it worked

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I mean silent profile and bios oc profile in gpu

foggy hazel
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hmm

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its good that it worked BUT

obtuse nexus
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Weird stuff

foggy hazel
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i would strongly suggest that you think about doing a RMA on it

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because that is NOT normal behaviour for a card

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beause it is not as if your sister has had the system open and toggled the bios switch on the GPU right?

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does the above make sense @obtuse nexus ?

obtuse nexus
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Its on bios oc mode when I got it

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Ill try to look for stuff

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Currently 5700xt cards have black screen issues

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But i dont think thats the issue in my case

foggy hazel
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some do. some dont.

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and it is not related to your situation as far as i understand it

obtuse nexus
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Yeahh

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If problem persist i'll try doing rma

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And i think i will sell it

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Asus 2080super cards drop prices in my country

foggy hazel
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I would suggest having a talk with the seller asap

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because again, its not a logical solution.

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so i would personally not trust that card

obtuse nexus
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Hmmm

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Youre right

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Insert sweaty man meme

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Thank you very much naed!

foggy hazel
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i would be able to say "okay, that makes sense" IF you had been working in the case and by chance "touched" the bios flip switch.

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because in that case, oh yeah, sure, it might be slighty triggered.

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but in your situation? no. it just does NOT add up :/

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and you are very welcome @obtuse nexus

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best of luck with things :)

obtuse nexus
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yeah I too was weirded

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but anyway thank you so much for the help

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I would contact aorus and the seller asap regarding the issue

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thank you very much again ❤️

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome (again) :) and best of luck:)

little osprey
foggy hazel
#

if you already have the OLOY in your machine, just stick with it, it is imo NOT worth removing those for it

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BUT, if you are starting from nothing. CL16 makes sense.

little osprey
#

okay just verifying

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is there anything you see wrong with it?

foggy hazel
#

ofc, IF you can move the CL18's to a different machine, then ... yeah, do that and use the CL16 in your own

little osprey
#

I can I have the other pc which uses the same ram

foggy hazel
#

IF the other machine has a need for a ram upgrade (i assume it has less than 32gig) you could indeed move it over

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however, that is then reliant on the second machine actually needing that ram upgrade

little osprey
#

i'm gonna stick with the current ram

foggy hazel
#

just doing it "because you can" is imo silly

little osprey
#

correct yes

wary geode
#

Naed a card i sold had a black screen issue with that monitor but when it’s plugged into mine it works

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I deleted drivers and everything and redownload but it still has a issue when I put it into another monitor

foggy hazel
#

@wary geode you talking about the Optix?

wary geode
#

It doesn’t accept any monitor but mine

little osprey
#

and another question. is it worth getting a pcie4.0 nvme?

wary geode
#

Nah XfX

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XFX 580 4gb

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Black screen vga

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Runs fine on any pc I put into my monitor just another onemonitor doesn’t work

foggy hazel
#

@wary geode you have lost me on the relevance of your comment in regards to what i am talking with @little osprey about.

wary geode
#

Oh I was reading above about the 5700xt black screen

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Finish with him and maybe at me later

foggy hazel
#

it was not a topic we talked about @wary geode, it was a random comment.

wary geode
#

Oh lol imma head to the gpu channal and see if someone can help me there

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Thanks doe

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey re: pci-e 4.0 drive: IF you need the speed it offers? then yes. But if you are "just" gaming (as the market/engines are right this second) ... i personally dont think its worth it

little osprey
#

is there any nvme you can recommend? I wanna swap my current nvme to my second pc

foggy hazel
#

but its nice and simple to add in another later on and just clone it over

#

guessing you are looking for bigger?

little osprey
#

all dependent on pricing

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i can do 150$ but can go up to 200 if needed

foggy hazel
#

mp600 comes to mind

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but again, you are paying for things you might not actually need

#

as things which it is going to be hard to "feel"

little osprey
#

I mean a pcie3.0 one

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you made a good point

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its not worth it

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unless im video editing and such

foggy hazel
#

aye

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what you have is a solid system

little osprey
#

which i'm gaming mostly

foggy hazel
#

leave it as it is

little osprey
#

the nvme i have

foggy hazel
#

all of it really

little osprey
#

is at 80% health

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so i kinda wanna change that out and put it in a low use system

foggy hazel
#

its fine

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worry less about benchmarks and enjoy your system

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play more games

wary geode
#

Oh **** meant that in this chat

foggy hazel
foggy hazel
#

also, see the question down there for you

wary geode
#

Ok awesome

little osprey
#

oh i do have another question any suggestion for a 1440P monitor?

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I wanted to swap my 1080p monitor with a 1440p one

foggy hazel
#

any that looks like it has the specs you want.

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1440p is a rather big list of monitors :)

little osprey
#

yeah I see that

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that looks good

#

has hdr and 144hz if I decide to go full

stoic island
#

ye

little osprey
#

but may go msi due to the fact I already have MSI

deep skiff
#

hdr on budget monitors usually isnt really decent

#

more of a selling point than actual useful feature

little osprey
#

true

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my tv has hdr

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so im fine on the hdr front

#

ehidk what to choose :/

#

thats not a bad price

deep skiff
#

va tho

little osprey
#

darn

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meh

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from the looks of it

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VA seems to be on curved ones

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so it looks like my best option is

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or this

deep skiff
little osprey
#

lol

#

pcpart picker is annoying me tbh

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im trying to find this monitor on there

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i cant oddly

glass pasture
#

hi all

little osprey
#

@deep skiff imma get that one

deep skiff
#

noice

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wish rtings or anybody really could review the gigabyte one :/ looks good for the value

little osprey
#

unless you suggestion something else

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i mean I could always risk it

deep skiff
#

ya

little osprey
#

it looks amazing by the looks

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20$ less too

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its also fairly new

deep skiff
#

ye

little osprey
#

Additional Information

Date First Available
August 20, 2020

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maybe thats why?

deep skiff
#

ya

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i just like having reviews on what im buying, but that doesnt mean its a bad panel at all if it has no reviews

foggy hazel
#

monitors are a very good idea to have someone else take the first chance on

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UD590 comes to mind as a very good example of why that is

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(on paper, good specs. In reality, horrible horrible backlight bleed)

little osprey
#

Newegg reviews show it's fine

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Other than one person had a doa one

foggy hazel
#

i am talking about reviews by people with working eyes

little osprey
#

Lol

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True

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We shall see how it is

#

It'll be here Wednesday or Thursday

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I'm gonna be moving my 1080p monitors above my desk area and keeping the 1440 front and center

deep skiff
#

lol that monitor looks straight out of 2014 naed

foggy hazel
#

oh it very much is

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and it was a launch problem for it

deep skiff
#

lmao it is from 2014

#

but yeah reviews are nice to have on monitors before u buy

hazy canopy
#

so im a little confused on powered fan controllers. i know that you shouldnt daisy chain too many fans off one fan header or it runs the risk of burning out, but if i have 5 fans onto 1 controller thats okay right?

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the fan pack i was looking at has 5 fans and controller, or would it be better to get 5 fans and two splitters so i can use multiple fan headers?

foggy hazel
#

a true powered fan controller does not care

coarse coral
#

which fan controller

foggy hazel
#

a fan controller that "just" pulls power from the fan connector on the mainboard however will care.

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so, as Theo asks, which fan controller @hazy canopy

hazy canopy
#

Honestly I wasn’t too set on one yet, I was just starting looking into my options. There’s a deep cool one for 15 or noctua for 20 but idk if there’s any better ones I can get out there

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Or rather, is there any to avoid lol

stoic island
#

oh damn I didn't realize Noctua had a fan controller

#

it looks really interesting

#

the controller itself is tiny compared to others, but it also has a 3 way splitter

deep skiff
#

not even brown and beige smh my head

last carbon
#

Hello

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Sorry for interrupt your conversation, I am looking for assistance to build a PC and I am totally new on this

#

I selected some parts but not sure if those are the appropiated

#

can anyone provied support on this

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*provide

foggy hazel
#

@last carbon do you have a pcpartpicker link? or do you just have a list of parts?

last carbon
#

I did a list, but not sure if it is good

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I need it for design

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to work with illustrator

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photoshop

foggy hazel
#

can you share your list?

last carbon
#

and run a roland printer

#

versawork software

#

yes

#

give me few minutes to copy and paste

foggy hazel
#

where have you made the list @last carbon ?

last carbon
#

newegg

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how to share the list here?

foggy hazel
last carbon
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

press copy and then paste that here :)

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2sec

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can you send it as a dm to me?

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the anti-spam bot is eating your link

last carbon
#

thanks

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As I said, I want to use Illustrator, Photoshop, Versawork, and check emails

foggy hazel
#

it works for that

last carbon
#

I don't need the fastest PC, but at least someing good

foggy hazel
#

its a solid machine. There are a few changes i would make

last carbon
#

what is the different between intel i7 quad core and intel i7 8-core?

foggy hazel
#

basically double the performance IF what you are doing can use the extra cores.

last carbon
#

which one give a better performance?

#

What change would you do?

foggy hazel
#

give me a minute here, just looking at different prices

#

@last carbon almost done here

last carbon
#

ok let me see

foggy hazel
#

That is the tool we use for sharing builds here :)

#

it shows more broadly that the price actually is

last carbon
#

ok Thanks

#

so you change memory

#

right?

foggy hazel
#

correct

#

cheaper, same performance

#

i changed the ssd, faster

last carbon
#

is the cpu the appropiated?

#

ok

foggy hazel
#

i changed the hdd, double the space for a tiny bit more

last carbon
#

great

stoic island
#

Naed, I got a question that might be relavent, would a 6c12t 10600k fare better than a 8c8t 9700k for workload such as video editing because of the extra threads?

foggy hazel
#

see, thats the next part :)

last carbon
#

I do not make videos

foggy hazel
#

no, but you do work with "content"

last carbon
#

a 8 core is superior than a quad core?

#

or not too much difference

stoic island
#

Depends on the specific chip and specific situation

#

there is nothing that can do everything in the computing world :D

foggy hazel
#

@last carbon simple question with a semi-complex answer.

#

here is another list

#

different mainboard, and a different cpu

last carbon
#

I will keep with the i7

#

do you all think the i7 8 core is a good option?

foggy hazel
#

you have not gotten the first answer yet.

last carbon
#

Naed, in your list you checked compatibility

#

??

foggy hazel
#

aye, my mistake.

#

for that list it does not matter

last carbon
#

what of the two list?

foggy hazel
#

the simple answer for your 4core, 8core, or 6 core is this

stoic island
#

Side note Naed, Seasonic focus gx is 110$ in stock at amazon.

foggy hazel
#

the 6 core is my choice of those 3

stoic island
#

(Out of these specific models so far)

foggy hazel
#

the reason for that @last carbon is known as SMT

#

the i7 / i5 that you have been focusing on. Does not really tell you all that much

stoic island
#

the "i3, i5, i7, i9, r3, r5, r7, r9" is all really just marketing, doesn't tell you all too much about the products themselves

foggy hazel
#

(and thank you for the PSU info @stoic islandi have not even looked at that part yet, because i knew this was going to be .. interesting)

stoic island
#

(Yea I'll be lurking and checking prices)

foggy hazel
little osprey
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

does what i said make sense @last carbon ?

last carbon
#

yes

#

I will do my homework to buy the parts

#

appreciate the help

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome.

last carbon
#

thank you have a nice day

foggy hazel
#

i would like to remind you, you could also use AMD.

#

you too

stoic island
#

Naed, don't adobe products like photoshop favor Intel slightly?

last carbon
#

Do you have other recommendation?

#

Thank you for the imput Mr1111

foggy hazel
#

yes/no. its not something that cannot be overcome with raw brute force @stoic island

#

aka the AMD path

stoic island
#

Alright

foggy hazel
#

mind there are exceptions

#

because Adobe

stoic island
#

It's just something I've heard about

#

agh this laptop is being slow today

#

it's taking half a minute to load up the SSD page...

foggy hazel
#

and its way cheaper

last carbon
#

Let me see

rich void
#

Does Julio already have a gpu?

foggy hazel
#

that will be added ofc @rich void

#

its the core of it

#

because that is the "next" thing that Adobe "now" likes

#

GPU accel

rich void
#

Gotcha. I wasn't sure if the other builds relied on iGPU, just trying to understand. Thanks!

foggy hazel
#

this has been a nice "onion" to peel in that regard :)

#

the others did.

last carbon
#

this tool pcprtpicker already tell me where should I buy each part for the best price?

foggy hazel
#

basically yes.

#

however, that last list is not done yet

#

its "just" the basics :)

#

it still needs a graphicscard added to it :)

#

is the final list

last carbon
#

which one you like most?

#

prices are close

#

not big deal

foggy hazel
#

the last one, by a BIG margin

last carbon
#

with the AMD?

foggy hazel
#

yes

#

it is just faster all around

last carbon
#

ok

#

thank you

#

Do you think I need the video card?

foggy hazel
#

yes, that is not up for debate on the AMD machine

#

there is not a GPU built into the CPU

last carbon
#

ok

little leaf
#

naed

foggy hazel
#

yes?

little leaf
#

isn't a 1650s the same price?

foggy hazel
#

should be 20-30 above

#

and not for gaming

#

its for cuda in adobe

little leaf
#

ik but I thought I saw one for 140 might be on crack though

stoic island
#

Naed, how does GPU accel on say Photoshop work? Does it use the encoder (which makes Nvidia the more attractive option?), or the raw perf of the GPU?

foggy hazel
#

its the actual computing cores @stoic island

stoic island
#

interesting

foggy hazel
#

its not the encoder for what he does

little leaf
#

I just thought why not have more for same

stoic island
#

tbh I would go 20$ more for a 1650s, there's a decent performance gap between the two, but both works.

little leaf
foggy hazel
#

for this, it really doesnt matter

stoic island
#

Well, it's decent enough

#

it's like a P1

#

basically an Intel P1 lel

little leaf
#

p2 uses system mem and p1 uses its own right]

stoic island
#

Yes

#

665p has dram

#

so does P1

little leaf
#

so why would the p2 be better?

stoic island
#

It really isn't imo, but TLC

last carbon
#

Naed, are you there?

foggy hazel
#

i am

last carbon
#

the windows 10 says $15

foggy hazel
#

yes, because that is how much you should be paying for it

last carbon
#

where?

stoic island
#

ebay

#

and some other places

last carbon
#

If I buy everything from amazon?

foggy hazel
#

it is highly recommended that you dont buy the Windows License from there, unless you want to pay a lot more for it

stoic island
#

side note, looks like software codes don't have windows 10 keys anymore :(

foggy hazel
#

it has been handled @stoic island

limpid snow
#

Oof, I’m gonna need to buy a Windows 10 key when I build my new pc, I’m still on Windows 7 on my current PC steveconfused

little osprey
#

how does this look guys, 3D artist. Updated new list to a lower budget. I will still need to bring it down a notch. Like $100 less lol

#

I will be using it as a for 3D modeling in-game assets, props and vehicles. Quick renders and such for printing and making a physical printed portfolio to showcase at game companies while applying for 3D prop artist jobs

stoic island
little osprey
#

thank you Mr1111

#

I appreciate your help

foggy hazel
#

i would go a step further

#

2600 or 3600

stoic island
#

oops

#

@little osprey take off the 256gb ssd from that list

#

forgot to remove it

little osprey
#

oh ok

stoic island
#

that'll save you money

#

and true 1600af/2600/3600 might be better for you

#

more cores for the renders

#

3100 is great for games, not too great for rendering and such

foggy hazel
#

can you stretch to 660 usd @little osprey ?

little osprey
#

I think I can, I will put it in there

#

Yeah Naed I can, it will take me slightly longer to get all other peripherals, like the mouse and keyboard and monitor and desk, but thats ok

#

]

foggy hazel
#

that actually has some computing power behind it

little osprey
#

is it better to fill the mobo with four 8gb memory cards? make it 32gb? or better to use up only 2 16gb cards?

#

I was thinking of making it 32gb mem, keep it flexible in case I get a freelance project involving a heavy scene with a ton of geometry

deep skiff
#

2x16 is usually better

little osprey
#

thank you, the less slots being used the better?

foggy hazel
#

consider the following

#

you have 4*8 and you want to upgrade to 64 total

#

what are you going to do with the 4*8? @little osprey

little osprey
#

Oh yeah, didn't think of that lol

foggy hazel
#

:)

#

so the question really is: Is there any downside to running with 2*16 now? no. there is not.

#

but there is an upside IF you want to upgrade down the line :)

last carbon
#

Naed, I don't find that software code for window 10

little osprey
#

Oh ok, in this case, wouldn't there be issues with the different dates of these memory sticks being created? Say for example I have to 2x16gb already installed, and then a year later I want to upgrade to 64, so I install another 2 16gb cards, but with different date of manufacture (yet same brand and model cards), it shouldn't be a problem? I was told by someone in person a long time ago that is better to purchase memory kits that will complete the total memory you're going for because they've all been manufactured on the same date, and less likely to cause any potential errors ?

last carbon
#

Can you send me a link for that?

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey not a problem

#

the date part is generally not something consumers have to think about

#

rule of thumb is however that you buy the same brand for your sticks

#

@last carbon see pm.

little osprey
#

Thanks Naed

calm crypt
#

So I’m doing a ftn build for my brother it’s literally just gotta play fortnite and cs go on 720 high or 1080 med/low it’s going with 4gb ddr3 and a i53570 I’ll prolly upgrade the ram soon but I’m just trying to figure out what low profile gpu to get I feel like a 1650 or 1050tinis overkill

outer heart
#

i have two monitors and my mobo will have 1 hdmi port. do i need a gpu with 2 or one hdmi port in it?

calm crypt
#

Well you could get a splitter but most modern gpus have multiple ports

outer heart
#

yeah the one i’m thinking rn has 2 ports

calm crypt
#

What’s the model

calm crypt
#

Ya that’s a good card

#

U don’t wanna use the mobo port tho

#

Because that would be integrated graphics

outer heart
#

alright perfect

#

thank you for the clarification

calm crypt
#

Yh np

opal stratus
#

What do you guys have for WiFi?

stoic island
#

built into motherboard for me

#

you can get a wireless adapter otherwise

civic kiln
#

Anyone know some cheap white rgb fans?

little osprey
#

LoL @foggy hazel , I went up $100 on my build list, against my budget lol

#

I take it back, I fixed it, it only went up a little bit due to memory sticks, instead of 166gb ram, going for 32gb

#

instead of 16gb, going with 32gb

stoic island
#

why's that?

little osprey
#

went up with the memory sticks, 32gb, price went up $50 bucks more, and changed the cpu to a ryzen 3600x 6 core

#

I have to research the performance gap, or difference between the cpu you recommended for me Mr1111, and the 3600x that Naed recommended me

foggy hazel
#

something has gotten lost in translation here @little osprey

#

3200 cl16 OR preferably 3600 CL16

#

not the 3000 CL16 you have in that last list.

teal imp
#

qu. would a Sapphire Radeon PULSE RX 580 8GB work on a PCI 2.0 3.0 ?

little osprey
#

oh ok

#

I will fix it, no wonder I was confusing myself

foggy hazel
#

@teal imp PCI ? no.

#

PCI-E? yes

teal imp
#

pcie yeah that's what i mint

foggy hazel
#

that will work :)

teal imp
#

thanks. should i invests a sideways PCI-E mount?

foggy hazel
#

that is your call

teal imp
#

ok. thanks. i dont use net or sound cards so a sideways mount wouldn't bother me with thos .

foggy hazel
#

i mean, if you want one, have at it :)

#

its entirely your call :)

night iron
#

Not bad @paper eagle but you couldn’t stick the GPU cables down the cut underneath so it could look better?

robust plover
#

Dose anyone know any good fans that connect by molex

teal imp
#

Ehh i may need a new power supply with that sapphire. I don't have enough connections to split to a 8 pin for the cards power.

paper eagle
#

Not bad @paper eagle but you couldn’t stick the GPU cables down the cut underneath so it could look better?
@night iron

I think its cause the cables are plugged into the GPU in a u shape is why.
I have 1 cable double plugged into the gpu. So there's extra length between the GPU's 8pin and 6pin that pushes the cable out against the glass.

#

Maybe I should just use 2 separate cables? That way I can pull them back and tighten them up behind the board, making it show less thru the window.

#

But in either case, im waiting for the 3080s to come out so I can replace my msi 1080 gaming x

little osprey
#

So I just ordered a 5500XT from a local parts store.

#

I should have the rest of my stuff here by Friday at the latest. Can't wait.

#

👍

outer heart
#

is there any difference between the way a pcie wifi adapter works and a usb 3?

stoic island
#

Kind of

#

bandwidth

ionic veldt
#

@stoic island It was my motherboard for sure, I tested the ram modules on a friend's computer I built for him, they were able to run at their advertised speed on his system

stoic island
#

interesting

night iron
#

Okay @paper eagle Have you thought about using cable extensions in your future builds.

little osprey
#

I went to the micro center and I was told an AMD 5 3600 would be enough for a 3080

#

Now I’m wondering if I should upgrade for the hell of it

ripe wedge
#

@little osprey who told you that?

#

like a manager?

#

or like just the worker

#

I think it might be enough but not for sure

little osprey
#

Just a worker

ripe wedge
#

o

#

wish I could work at a microcenter lol

#

build pcs all day

sullen spoke
#

if only i was just a few minutes closer 😦

thorny bronze
little osprey
#

only gaming?

#

or other stuff 2

#

your going 3090

#

go 10 gen

#

10900k if you can

#

and the h510i

#

if u want nzxt

thorny bronze
#

gaming. well his budget was 2500

#

he insisted on the 3090

little osprey
#

but i say go with the lian li o11d

#

thats a better case

#

does he only want to game?

thorny bronze
#

yes

little osprey
#

ok then i suggest 10900k if u can squeeze it in

#

also dont go with a second ssd

#

go with a 2tb hardrive instead

thorny bronze
#

He has a hard drive alreadyt

little osprey
#

ok then go 2tb nvme

thorny bronze
#

he is going to use it as a backup

little osprey
#

and lose the ssd

#

ig

#

but if i were him

#

i would lose it

#

nice cooler

#

and the ram

#

try 32

#

but if not

#

u can get a better price

#

with ripjaws unless he really needs rgb

#

for some reason then trident z

stoic island
#

Change stuff

thorny bronze
#

he wants some rgb

stoic island
#

Make new list

little osprey
#

u can go ripjaws 5 cl 16

#

3600

#

for the same price

#

32 gbs

stoic island
#

At that budget you can go o11 and fill it with ll120s lmfao