#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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no need to save it as your own list or anything

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@next sigil also, need a monitor or no

next sigil
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Thanks @stoic island..

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We are actully looking at a Samsung 27" monitor..

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Already got that priced out.. 🙂

stoic island
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kk

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27in 1080p isn't great

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24in 1080p is ideal

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and 27in 1440p is ideal

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with 32in 1440p not being great

thick gorge
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Look at this list

stoic island
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oop

thick gorge
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Mine says $1480

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lmao

stoic island
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anyways, ram high latency, 970evo overpriced, RM750 out of stock

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case overpriced

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gpu currently overpriced

thick gorge
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Yeah this is not too specific, it outlines the type of parts he should use

sand falcon
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I think I remember seeing some 3600 CL16 for 80 bucks recently

stoic island
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I just hate h510 :P

thick gorge
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GPU is not overpriced

stoic island
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mhm

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that model is

thick gorge
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$499 for 2070 super

stoic island
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661$

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Best buy has it out of stock

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click on it

sand falcon
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Yeah

stoic island
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:P

sand falcon
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The H510i is very cliche, and the airflow isn't great

thick gorge
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Hold on Imma make a better one

stoic island
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all looks little airflow :P

sand falcon
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I'm pretty sure my mATX case has better airflow

stoic island
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mine mostly likely has better airflow

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focus g

sand falcon
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DIYPC MA08

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Cable management is not great

thick gorge
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meshify c?

sand falcon
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A good case

thick gorge
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Hows this

stoic island
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Meshify c good with extra fans

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stock is meh

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why not mp34 :P

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cheaper

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PSU still out of stock at best buy :P

next sigil
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You guys are giving us some good info here.. We greatly appreciate it.

fading delta
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Seriously. Thanks guys

thick gorge
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ok

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I'll put in a different psu

little osprey
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will a three fan gpu fit on an atx motherboard?

sand falcon
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Yes

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You might check the case though

stoic island
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that doesn't matter with the motherboard, just the case

little osprey
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the cas is an ATX Full Tower

stoic island
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the PCIe slot is standardized

thick gorge
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Are coolermaster psu bad

stoic island
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depends on model

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MWE Gold is good

thick gorge
sand falcon
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@little osprey Case sizes aren't standard beyond a absoluste bare minimum size.

thick gorge
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This has the correct psu

little osprey
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I think i am planning on buying this one :ASRock B550 EXTREME4 AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

stoic island
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... still out of stock lmfao

little osprey
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Is the ryzen 5 3600x good with graphics and adobe softwares?

stoic island
little osprey
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ok

thick gorge
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is the crucial p1 good

little osprey
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how is the motherboard still out of stock? they just came back in stock

sand falcon
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He was talking about the PSU

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For productivity stuff, you might consider getting more cores if you can afford it, but 3600 should be just fine. The 3600x doesn't really give that much improvement for the price

little osprey
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ok thank you

sand falcon
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Just double check your case size and GPU length

little osprey
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I think I can afford more cores like the 7 3700x

next sigil
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So let me ask you guys this about RAM..

steady kernel
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I'm looking at the Fractal Design Ion+ 560P 80 PLUS Platinum Certified 560W and ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming MB and Newegg's Build a PC tool let's me select them together but a different online took says "The Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Fractal Design Ion+ 560 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it."

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so will they work together?

next sigil
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Does the RAM speed need to match what the CPU says or as long as the MB supports it it's fine?

little osprey
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i think it needs to match but i am not sure

thick gorge
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Literally every psu is sold out at best buy

little osprey
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oh wow

thick gorge
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only low powered ones are available

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How is this

sand falcon
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@next sigil It depends on exactly what CPU. I believe all the most recent gen CPUs will support at least 3600MHz

little osprey
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so is ryzen better than intel?

sand falcon
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@little osprey If you can afford the 3700x without having to get a lower tier GPU, do so

little osprey
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ok

thick gorge
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Yes it is better for almost every pricepoint

sand falcon
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It depends on what you're doing. Intel is better for gamers with no budget, amd is better for basically anything else

little osprey
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i have a budget of $1500

next sigil
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@sand falcon I was looking at Rayzen 5 3600.. It says Memory type is DDR4 3200.. Will it be OK to still go with 3600 RAM?

sand falcon
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That's probably still AMD territory

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@next sigil That will be fine

thick gorge
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Yeah the 3600 supports 3600 speed ram

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whoah coincedence

next sigil
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Thanks.. I was asking this last night and was getting very unuseful answers.

sand falcon
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If for some bizzare reason it can't run the ram, you can always run it below max speed

thick gorge
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This build is just under $1500

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If you can try to get a better psu

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Their mostly sold out, so ur gonna have to do some digging

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@next sigil

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@sand falcon any thoughts

little osprey
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thank you

next sigil
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@thick gorge Thanks for the info.

little osprey
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the ryzen cpu says is supports ddr4 3200 but I wanted to origionally get a ddr4 4400

thick gorge
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np

sand falcon
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Don't go 4400, ryzen can't handle that fast

little osprey
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would 3600 be fine?

sand falcon
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Also, why the P1 @thick gorge?

thick gorge
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It was one of the lowest priced ones

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Someone else told me to switch another one out for the p1

sand falcon
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You'd be better off with the mp34. The crucial P1 is QLC, which means lower speeds and it wears out faster

thick gorge
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ok

little osprey
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ok

thick gorge
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I think @next sigil is gonna look into it

sand falcon
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@little osprey 3600 ram will be just fine

little osprey
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ok thank you. this is the ssd I had origionally had on my list:Pioneer SE20G M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 NVMe 1.3 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) APS-SE20G

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it was the fastest one I could also find

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and one of the cheapest

sand falcon
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There are far faster than that

little osprey
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ok

sand falcon
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How much is it?

little osprey
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$130. is the intel ssd compatable with the ryzen.

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ryzen cpu

sand falcon
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The intel SSD is also QLC

little osprey
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ok

sand falcon
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How much is the Western Digital SN750 right now?

little osprey
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$80

sand falcon
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That's for 512GB or 1TB?

little osprey
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500gb

sand falcon
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Okay

little osprey
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1 tb is $134

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gb

sand falcon
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It looks like it's the same price as the pioneer then

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tb was right

little osprey
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ya

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oops

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is the windows 10 pro OS better than the apple OS? Just curious because I am currently looking into apple but realized that their app store has like 1% of the amount of apps microsoft windows has

stoic island
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okay so

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2070 super is quite a bit better than the 2070

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that powersupply is way overpriced

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WD blue is sata, much slower than NVMe drives near the price

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Ram can be better in terms of frequency

next sigil
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I'm updating it now.. Thanks for your input @stoic island

terse yew
little osprey
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You should build your own because everything you want is in it and it is cheaper to build your own

terse yew
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I've built one online for around the same and it was higher than this spec, which is currently my ideal tower

little osprey
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oh

terse yew
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Also what's a good monitor?

little osprey
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that is what i am trying to figure out too. It depends though on what you are doing

terse yew
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I'm going to be gaming and editing videos

little osprey
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this is what i might get

terse yew
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Pretty much the base plan

little osprey
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i am still thinking

terse yew
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You getting one or two?

little osprey
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one

little osprey
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this is what i was looking at for a while but it is pretty excpensive

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LG 4K UHD 27UD88-W 27" LED-Lit Monitor with USB Type-C

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on amazon

terse yew
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I don't want to make the transition USB Type-C just yet

little osprey
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ok but just because something is excpensive doesnt always mean it is the best or it will perform the best

terse yew
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yeah

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this is a pretty good one

next sigil
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@stoic island How's this look?

little osprey
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i will take a look into this

terse yew
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Its cheaper than the Phillips and it seems like its better

little osprey
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yeah

terse yew
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I would get two of these

timber rose
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I personally don't buy retail Microsoft OS licenses

little osprey
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ok

timber rose
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You can get codes for 15-25$

little osprey
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thank you

terse yew
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I've got one just lying around

timber rose
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Invest the money you save in a better graphics card

terse yew
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Yes that is a good plan

little osprey
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ok thank you

terse yew
little osprey
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that is hillarious

terse yew
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Quite

little osprey
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i need it

terse yew
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It even has LED lighting 😂

little osprey
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i am getting it

terse yew
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Name a good gaming keyboard

little osprey
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Logitech G213 Prodigy Gaming Keyboard with 16.8 Million Lighting Colors

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that is the one i might get

terse yew
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My current RedDragon is good but the built in wrist rest isn't

little osprey
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oh

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look at that goofy one

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it is really comfortable though

terse yew
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holy crap

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I personally would never get it

little osprey
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me neither

honest ridge
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ive got $300 and want to upgrade my cpu and mother board (and i think ram too). I have a AMD FX 8320. any suggestions?

terse yew
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How aout headphones? HunterSpider ripped me off so I wont buy from them again

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@honest ridge what's your ram at right now?

honest ridge
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i have 16gb old and 16 gb new

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so 32 total

sand falcon
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@honest ridge DDR3 or DDR4?

honest ridge
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i think its DDR3

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anyway i could find out rn?

terse yew
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Ah ok. I wouldn't upgrade my RAM further because I have 32GB RAM MMR4

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But maybe to upgrade to DDR4

sand falcon
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Easiest way would be to check what gen the CPU uses, but I'm pretty sure it's ddr3

honest ridge
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i think so too

sand falcon
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Do you need wifi?

honest ridge
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wym?

sand falcon
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Does the motherboard need to be able to connect to wifi

honest ridge
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i use an ethernet cabel to connect it if thats what you mean

sand falcon
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Cool

terse yew
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I wish I could use an Ethernet cable. I'm too far from a port

honest ridge
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i got a long one and ran it through our attic

next kestrel
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100ft CAT6 cable 🙂

terse yew
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Dang 😂

sand falcon
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How much over 300 can you go?

honest ridge
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id prefer not to but about 100

sand falcon
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How's 313?

terse yew
honest ridge
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oh thats fine

terse yew
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Just under $3k

sand falcon
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@terse yew The list is private. Is there anyway you can share it?

terse yew
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Really? I just put it as ppublic

honest ridge
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bob would that be good for streaming and gaming too?

sand falcon
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Depends what GPU

terse yew
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4 Item(s) in your shopping cart: $2,463.96

honest ridge
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my gpu is old but it works and looks fine when i stream now

sand falcon
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yeah, I can't see it. Is there a share button or anything?

honest ridge
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its a radeon rx 480

sand falcon
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@honest ridge If your old system streams, this one will stream better

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You might actually consider upgrading your GPU now and CPU later. idk

honest ridge
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ok heres my situation

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I play Rocket league a lot and on my PC it has frame drop and lag. but on my laptop there is no lag using the same ether net cord. do you know what that issue might be?

sand falcon
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It will either be GPU or CPU, I'm not sure which it will be though

terse yew
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Does NewEgg have gaming desks on it?

honest ridge
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i figured im due for an upgrade anyway

sand falcon
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Yeah

honest ridge
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what if i trade the Ryzen 5 for a Ryzen 3 3300

sand falcon
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Should be fine

honest ridge
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i think thats the other one i was looking at

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its like 50 bucks cheaper

sand falcon
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3300x out preforms the 7700k

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If you can find it in stock, get it

honest ridge
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ok ill look

terse yew
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My GPU goes up to 90% in games so I'm due for an upgrade as well

sand falcon
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What GPU? The 980?

honest ridge
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aw pcparkpicker is down

potent prairie
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So does mine. Some games reserve GPU space I think

terse yew
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I'll sell my gaming laptop for $3k because I've gotten offers that high, and I'll sell my brand new iPad which I don't use, and that should cover the prices, sales tax, and shipping

sand falcon
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That's like a 4000 dollar budget. Are you Australian?

terse yew
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Nope

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I'm a Californian

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And its around $3.3K

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Can someone link me a good desk on NewEgg?

sand falcon
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Ikea desks are pretty nice

terse yew
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Very true

stoic island
honest ridge
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😦

little osprey
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does anyone think they can get this to 1200?

cloud drum
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Don't buy a separate cooler

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Use the default one

lime forge
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start by getting non rgb ram, use the stock cooler and ditch the coolermaster one, get a cheaper case

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get a b550 board

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instead of x570

cloud drum
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Don't use the 3600x

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Use the non x

lime forge
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3600x comes with a better cooler

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so id recommend

cloud drum
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Oh ok

lime forge
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also you could save a bit going for a 512gb ssd instead of the 1tb

cloud drum
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You could get a SATA SSD

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They're less expensive

lime forge
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i dont reccomend

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speed difference is huge

cloud drum
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They're not much slower than m.2

lime forge
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iirc sata 3 maxes out 500mbps, and even my cheap intel 660p goes at 1800mbps

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better m2 ssds go at like 3000 or even 4000

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so that plus the hassle you save not having to run another sata and sata power cable makes it worth

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imo

cloud drum
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Ok

agile bear
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That’s rated speeds but rated speeds don’t make much difference in day to day tasks

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Unless you are constantly doing file transfers sata is perfectly acceptable for system drive and some games

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But that nvme is about the same price as a 1tb sata so you are probably fine

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Here’s my edit

potent prairie
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That ssd is QLC, I would pay the extra $7 to get an mp34 w/ TLC

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Plus the mp34 is faster with r/w

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Also that PSU concerns me... no model #

little leaf
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@agile bear I wouldn't use that psu

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and that ssd is great either

agile bear
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Why not?

little leaf
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psu might be a plastic explosive

potent prairie
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Yh

little leaf
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and the ssd is slower than others for the price

agile bear
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It’s 80+ which means it meets certification

little leaf
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just barely

agile bear
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It’s just not as efficient

sand falcon
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Doesn't mean it won't go off bang

potent prairie
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^

little leaf
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^

agile bear
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It’s not an unbranded psu

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Its backed by EVGA

potent prairie
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Doesn't mean it's good

little leaf
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Doesn't mean its good

sand falcon
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But it doesn't say which PSU it is

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Like this could be any EVGA PSU

potent prairie
little leaf
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I wouldn't use a cv though

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and why the 3600x

sand falcon
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Yeah, just do 3600

potent prairie
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I just modifed the list meow had to have a somewhat ok psu and a good ssd

little leaf
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is he video editing?

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because I just made is not a 3600 and a txm

sand falcon
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I like that

agile bear
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Just go intel

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(Is a joke)

sand falcon
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Okay

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good

little leaf
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you could go intel if you just want to game

potent prairie
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You could do a CX 650 grey $20 less tho

sand falcon
potent prairie
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It's d-tier

sand falcon
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It's pretty bad

little leaf
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thats pretty bad

potent prairie
agile bear
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Just use it for threadripper lol

sand falcon
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That's gonna brown out

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Also, it's really noisy

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It's rated for 24-26dBA

little leaf
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I kinda overspent on my psu

agile bear
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Power supply go brrrrrr

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I got an open box gold psu

sand falcon
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That's the electrical noise I think, not the audible

potent prairie
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I got an AX1200i for $100 😛

little leaf
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@potent prairie used?

potent prairie
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Floor model. Open box

little leaf
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damn

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I just got an rmx 850

potent prairie
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No cables, but great deal

agile bear
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Open box deals are killer

potent prairie
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Yeah

agile bear
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I saw a 2080ti for like 900 once

little leaf
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I spent 140 bucks on my psu :/

potent prairie
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I got my 2080ti for 1k with tax, also open box

little leaf
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damnn

potent prairie
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EVGA XC Ultra from warehouse deals

sand falcon
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2700x for 170

agile bear
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I wish I waited for 3900x sales before I got my 3700

potent prairie
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I wish I had waited for 3080ti and zen 3

little leaf
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same

sand falcon
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I want to see zen4

agile bear
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I think I’m just gonna do a new build for my next upgrade

woeful pumice
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Hi guys. Building a PC. AMD fanboy with a $720 hard limit. Suggestions?

cursive wharf
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@sand falcon 24 - 26dBa is quite quiet for a PSU

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Loud is going over 40dBa at more then moderate loads

woeful pumice
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ewe hm.. my build is more than a little over budget at $1K...

sand falcon
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For electrical noise? That seems horrible

cursive wharf
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Where do you find electrical noise rating for a PSU? Talking about just general noise rn

sand falcon
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It was on the spec sheet

cursive wharf
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Doesn't say electrical noise, just standard noise which includes fan noise

potent prairie
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It wouldn't be great if a PSU sounded like a taser

sand falcon
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Wouldn't it?

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🤔

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I am liking this idea

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It's a pity it's so much longer to april fools

cursive wharf
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Scare off anyone that tries to break into your place

potent prairie
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Tase anybody who tries to disassemble your rig

sand falcon
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Michael Reeves would be proud

potent prairie
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You might need those insulating pads lol

sand falcon
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Hrm?

potent prairie
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Don't want your PSU/taser to short out

sand falcon
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What's fun is to have a number pad to unlock the power button and turn your computer on. If you enter the wrong code, dump 120VAC directly to the mobo and a electromagnetic coil wrapped around the harddrive

potent prairie
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about

sand falcon
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First off, you are handling parts that draw several hundred watts of the power, so don’t ever touch the parts with the system powered on.

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Meh

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Just gets toasty

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Oh my gosh, I had never actually seen the insides of this thing

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Where are the wifi antennas?

woeful pumice
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e.e guess I'm on my own here..

potent prairie
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If you need help, ask away

sand falcon
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You sometimes will have to ask more than once if we're in a conversation. Sorry about that

woeful pumice
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No worries.. trying to build an AMD based PC from scratch.

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$720 hard budget though.

sand falcon
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No parts that can be reused at all?

woeful pumice
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Negative. Unfortunately.

sand falcon
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Will you need wifi?

woeful pumice
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Yep

sand falcon
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No way at all to use ethernet? It will be 30-50 dollars cheaper

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It's also faster

woeful pumice
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My thought atm is going with a ryzen 3400G and suffering a bit in the graphics department for a while to save money.. unfortunately, to use ethernet would need about 20-25 feet of cable at least and some inventive snaking.

sand falcon
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Darn. No way to move the router?

woeful pumice
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Nope. This house is from the late 70s, and where the router was installed, it sits lol.

sand falcon
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Okay. When are you looking at buying this? Supply is really bad with covid, so prices are high rn

woeful pumice
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Asap. Just got money from a GoFundMe and I got people waiting on me to get a proper desktop.

sand falcon
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Okay. What will you be doing with the system?

woeful pumice
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Gaming primarily.

sand falcon
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What games?

woeful pumice
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GTA, Skyrim, American Truck Sim. Maybe some Forza.

sand falcon
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So nothing too rough to run

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I don't actually know about the Truck Sim, but I can't imagine it will be crazy

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Can you put the PC in the same room as the router?

woeful pumice
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Nah. Has GTA level graphics, thereabouts

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It won't be the same room. Maybe 10-15 geet at most.

sand falcon
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Okay

woeful pumice
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Extra 10 feet on the ethernet cord would be the snaking lol

sand falcon
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Wifi is expensive as crap right now 😦

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I wish the 3300x was in stock

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Are you in the states?

woeful pumice
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Yup

stoic island
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:P

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680$ 3600+1650s

potent prairie
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Ooo, you fast

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👏 gg

stoic island
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if you could get 3300x you can get 1660s prob

woeful pumice
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Nice. Bit of room leftover there for me to upgrade the storage too - I download a lot of games. My PS4 is at capacity with 500GB lol

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Ty

stoic island
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hmm

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could go cv550w instead of cx450

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bit more upgradability

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slightly worse pssu

woeful pumice
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Will the mobo need a bios update btw?

stoic island
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shouldn't

sand falcon
stoic island
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730$ if you slap 3600 in there

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tho 580 kinda weak nowadays

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I'd get 1650s over 580

sand falcon
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Okay, they're the same price, so it's an easy swap

woeful pumice
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The boomer in me winces whenever I see a smaller CPU despite knowing the graphics cards are more important for modern games lol.

sand falcon
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3300x is compareable to the 7700k

woeful pumice
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Oh. Nifty.

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Although I like how the newegg disc seems to universally use pcpartpicker over newegg PC builder. Kek.

stoic island
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hdd only tho

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oh wait

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read wrong

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that works

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Newegg pc builder needs work still

potent prairie
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Yeah

stoic island
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mainly with custom parts and parts from other sites

weary galleon
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How do you send pcpartpicker links here

stoic island
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magic

weary galleon
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:/

potent prairie
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You should just be able to do it...

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PCPP is supposed to be whitelisted

weary galleon
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Guess that works kinda

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^Theres more storage, better PSU and mobo

potent prairie
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Crucial P1 is QLC. If you can afford it, get the mp34

stoic island
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ye

weary galleon
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To allow for GPU upgrade in the future

stoic island
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cxm isn't exactly better

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coil whine

weary galleon
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Oh yeah didn’t notice the QLC

potent prairie
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yh

stoic island
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also look out for best buy :P

potent prairie
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Yh lol, best buy bad

stoic island
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out of stock at 95$

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so is aorus elite

#

P1/P2 is also fairly slow compared to MP34 and the rest of the good NVMe drives

sand falcon
#

I would go for 256 mp34 + 1TB HDD over 1TB P1

potent prairie
#

And QLC 🤮

sand falcon
#

QLC is okay if you get it really cheap

stoic island
#

I'd go 256 mp34+2tb HDD, or 512gb mp34 + upgradability in the future

potent prairie
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Yeah

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But still

stoic island
#

its just 50$ for barracuda 2tb, not exactly hard to get

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qlc is slow, less reliability, it's the least ideal :P

woeful pumice
#

Was about to ask what was wrong with QLC lol. Ty.

sand falcon
#

Tried the 2TB, 3.70 over budget. Trying to ix that now

woeful pumice
#

ssd lingo is still a little confusing for me lol

potent prairie
#

QLC = 4 bits per cell

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TLC = 3

stoic island
#

slc = 1

potent prairie
#

MLC = 2

stoic island
#

and I think it was mlc

#

ye

woeful pumice
#

So smaller is better?

stoic island
#

ye

sand falcon
#

I though QLC was 5?

stoic island
#

quad level cell

potent prairie
#

Less bits per cell is faster

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And more durable as you write to a cell less often

sand falcon
#

Ah, that use of Q

stoic island
#

why the hell is TLC called triple layered cell and QLC Quad leveled cell

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:P

woeful pumice
#

Okay. So what's the performance difference between a 7200RPM HDD and, say, a QLC SSD?

stoic island
#

basically

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100mb/s read write vs 3000mb/s read write

sand falcon
#

HDD slow, QLC fast but crap

potent prairie
#

Yea

sand falcon
stoic island
#

well QLC only really gets like 1500mb/s read write

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TLC gets 3000mb/s and upwards

potent prairie
#

But still, both are way better than a hhd

#

The naming of mlc is stupid

sand falcon
stoic island
#

For example, P1 1tb is rated for up to 2000mb/s read 1700mb/s write.
MP34 1tb is rated for up to 3000mb/s read 2600mb/s write

desert gulch
#

Do I need an additional 4 pin for x570 and r5 3600?

stoic island
#

Extra cpu 4 pin? no

desert gulch
#

Ok

sand falcon
#

You don't need x570 for 3600 either

desert gulch
#

I don't plan to overclock

stoic island
#

You won't ever need it for 3rd gen ryzen

sand falcon
#

Then just get b450

desert gulch
#

I want expand at some point

stoic island
#

unless you're OCing a 3950x

desert gulch
#

4th gen stuff

sand falcon
#

Then get b550

potent prairie
#

Well, you don't need to

stoic island
#

(I mean they promised b450 compatibility with 4th gen lol)

sand falcon
#

Though 4th gen should work on b450

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If the mobo manufacturers add it

potent prairie
#

Depends if the mobo brand sends a bios update, yh

woeful pumice
#

Double checking. That mobo has wifi right, bob?

stoic island
#

agh wifi

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no

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grab a wireless adapter

woeful pumice
#

QQ I hate being reliant on wifi. It's a stock router too, so the wifi connection itself tends to be crap.

sand falcon
#

Crap, I forgot that

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Rip 512GB SSD

woeful pumice
#

"Disconnected from game session due to unknown network error"

#

ewe

stoic island
#

smth like that

woeful pumice
#

Nifty. Thx.

sand falcon
#

Should the TP-Link one work you think?

stoic island
#

this list plus that adapter works

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too lazy to put custom part

sand falcon
#

Kept the HDD

stoic island
#

just a 802.11n adapter?

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:P

sand falcon
#

I mean, if it's a old stock router, you won't need more

woeful pumice
#

Would the stock fan on the 5 be good for any kind of overclocking?

stoic island
#

no

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not manual at least

#

pbo is fine

agile bear
#

You can get a 500gb ssd for that price

sand falcon
#

Ryzen overclocks itself pretty much

#

TLC or QLC?

woeful pumice
#

ewe well. It's the GPU that would need the oc more if I had to guess.

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Tbh I'd need it to be at least 1TB of storage. That said, i dont mind the fatter ssd's.. what are they? Are those still called SATA?

stoic island
#

why 1tb

sand falcon
stoic island
#

just curious

agile bear
#

You can get like a WD blue for only like 15 bucks more with 512

stoic island
#

didn't you say you had another 500gb disk?

woeful pumice
#

I download a lot of games. My PS4 is full at 500GB, I'd hate to see how quick my PC would eat it

sand falcon
#

WD Blue is sata

stoic island
#

ye

woeful pumice
#

My 500 gig disk is in my ps4

agile bear
#

They have a nvme blue with 500 gb

stoic island
#

???

agile bear
#

At least on Amazon it’s on sale for 65

stoic island
#

which one

woeful pumice
#

Hm. I like this build, bob. It's nice.

stoic island
#

what model

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like sn550?

agile bear
#

Ye

potent prairie
#

SN550 has no dram

stoic island
#

ye

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so is sn500

agile bear
#

I believe for nvme dram isn’t that important

sand falcon
#

It is very important

potent prairie
#

Um, actually...

stoic island
#

yea

potent prairie
#

Yeah

stoic island
#

It's like the most important part

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I'd rather have a Sata drive with dram than a NVMe drive without dram

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:P

agile bear
#

I believe for nvme and Ryzen it’s taken care of with the ram

woeful pumice
#

Is the Samsung 860QVO a good SSD?

sand falcon
#

It's QLC, isn't it?

stoic island
#

ye

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but it's decent

agile bear
#

I believe Linus talked about it not being needed

stoic island
#

as a sata drive

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@agile bear HMB can replace it

sand falcon
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@agile bear That's for drives with HMB

stoic island
#

but it's very important to have one of the two

woeful pumice
#

I'm looking at that build bob put up, but nixing the HDD and SSD for a 1TB Samsung.

potent prairie
#

You pay for the brand with samsung

sand falcon
#

I'd recommend sticking with the NVMe + HDD

stoic island
#

or just get a cheaper 1tb sata drive :P

#

qvo 1tb was like 130$ last I checked

sand falcon
#

You can set up a cache if you want faster reads off of the HDD

potent prairie
#

and 130 gets you a 1tb mp34

stoic island
#

huh

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qvo is 100$ rn

woeful pumice
#

$100 even on partpicker. Not sure what site.

stoic island
#

Amazon

sand falcon
#

Checked the list, the SN550 has no HMB, avoid it like the plague

agile bear
#

Nvme isn’t that important for most people so idk

stoic island
#

qvo 1tb for 100$ is decent

woeful pumice
#

What is HMB?

stoic island
potent prairie
#

Sata ssds are fine, but nvmes are very nice

stoic island
#

it makes the ssd use your ram instead of having dedicated dram

sand falcon
#

It will be slightly more expensive than the two drives in there

potent prairie
#

860 QVO is qlc tho

sand falcon
#

Basically, it's a way for SSD manufacturers to cheap out and introduce a bit more latency while using up some of your ram

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QLC doesn't matter so much on sata

woeful pumice
#

Ah. So that's lame. Something to watch out for

sand falcon
#

Less endurance still, but speed pffft

stoic island
#

qlc is fine

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yea

sand falcon
#

I'm not sure

stoic island
#

HMB is fine, just slightly worse than having actual dram

woeful pumice
#

Oh jeez. Problem. Cant believe I forgot to mention this.

sand falcon
#

I'd still lean towards an nvme and hdd, just because you get that much more speed for a little bit cheaper

#

Watcha got?

stoic island
#

well

woeful pumice
#

I do not have an OS. rip.

potent prairie
#

Ebay

sand falcon
#

Meh

stoic island
#

win10 be like 3$

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linux be like

free

sand falcon
#

Linux is free

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What games did you say you play?

woeful pumice
#

I dont linux. Sorry. Lazy when it comes to software lol.

stoic island
#

just get win10 key on ebay

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3$, works

sand falcon
#

Linux is stupidly easy to use

woeful pumice
#

GTA, Skyrim, Forza, American Truck Sim, Watch_dogs 2

sand falcon
#

Did you see the LTT gaming on Linux video?

woeful pumice
#

The what where now?

sand falcon
#

You can get a Linux gaming machine up and running faster than a windows one

stoic island
#

I havn't :P

sand falcon
#

Watch dogs is an ubi game, darn it

stoic island
#

rip

sand falcon
#

Listed as working though, so idk

#

ngl though, Linux is actually more user friendly than windows

woeful pumice
#

Watching the video.

stoic island
#

I just use win10 for compatibility with like 95% of things

woeful pumice
#

This is one I can have floating on my phone while I mess around elsewhere lol

stoic island
#

easy and you don't have to check if anything is compatible

sand falcon
#

Yeah, if you need cheap, Linux is getting pretty good for gaming lately though

woeful pumice
#

The tl;dr I'm getting right now is my life would be a little better with Linux if I use an AMD GPU

sand falcon
#

Um, yes

#

But it's not too bad with POP

woeful pumice
sand falcon
#

AMD does play much nicer though

woeful pumice
#

Too many choices lol. Little overwhelmed... gonna have to sit and think.

sand falcon
#

If you don't like choices, use windows

sharp perch
#

What should be a good motherboard for the 280x from corsair with 4 ram slots

sand falcon
#

@sharp perch what CPU are you looking at?

next kestrel
#

linux is a lighter OS

#

so i think its a bit faster right?

#

some people install chrome OS onto older laptops for speed

sand falcon
#

It will run faster on older hardware, or if you're puhing your system to the absoulte limits

#

For gaming systems, it won't really make a difference

woeful pumice
#

Built pretty much what you did, bob, entirely on newegg (lazy. Multiple checkouts? Bleh) and was wondering why it was coming out higher than on pcpart.

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Realised I picked a 2TB HDD instead of 1. Duh. That'll save some money lol

shell haven
#

Does anyone know if b450 motherboards come ryzen 3000 ready out of the box?

#

Specifally the asus rog strix model

little leaf
#

@shell haven Doesn't say on the website but it should

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unupdated bioses are an old thing

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and if it doesn just get one from amd

shell haven
#

yeah i bought a ryzen 3700x and im not sure what to do if its not compatiablle

little leaf
#

You can get a rental from amds website

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for free

shell haven
#

k ill look up abt it later

novel urchin
#

Good Evening everyone. New to Discord here. I am looking for some help with a new build I am working on if anyone can help with this frustrating problem.

tepid basalt
#

@novel urchin what's your problem?

little osprey
#

Hoi I have a b450m pro4, will using a NVME drive take away anything such as a sata port

agile bear
#

I know when I had a aourus b450 it did

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read your motherboard guid and it should tell you which ones you cant use

novel urchin
#

@tepid basalt I recently purchased some PC components to build a new gaming PC. Specs are
A320M-HDV R4.0 MB
Ryzen 3 3200G with Vega graphics
Intel 660p SSD 512GB
Patriot Viper 8 GB DDR4 (PVE48G266C6KGY) (4GB x2) Ram
Rosewell 600w PSU
Asus DVDRW Sata
Geforce 1050 ti GPU (Nvidia)
Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Nod 32 AV
The first time I installed Windows it constantly crashed WHILE installing! It was heartbreaking! I did manage to get windows 10 running but it was unstable as hell and kept crashing. I suspected it was MB so I returned it and still kept crashing so I sent ALL the parts back and got all new exact same parts. This time I got it running pretty stable (I am on it right now) yet sporadically it keeps crashing! From Kmode Exceptions, Memory Managment (No driver or file mentioned) Kernel Data inpage error all pointing to Ntoskrnl.exe in Blue Screen Viewer in mini dump files as well as completely locking up whenever I even attempt to play youtube videos. (Yeah I disabled Hardware acceleration as well No luck) Now I have run all mem diagnostics windows diag, memtest, SFC, DISM I tested SDD with Windows Chkdsk as well as Intel's Diag tool no problems there. All drivers are up to date and it's a fresh clean install of windows. I finally got around to checking ASROCK's support page listing supported memory. Seems this ram is NOT on that list. I was wondering could that be the problem I am using memory not supported?

tepid basalt
#

maybe, maybe not

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you have to stress test the ram to find out

#

so what can you do with the computer without crash?

novel urchin
#

I did windows Mem diag standard 15 passes. I attempted to do the extended test but it was taking so long (6 hours and only 2% of first pass completed)

tepid basalt
#

you can just use the memtest in dram calculator

novel urchin
#

I can go on Firefox, I can play Zuma for a while w/o crashing (But now windows 10 is having problems with the origin client they are working on a fix for that)I can play Stronghold HD in steam as well for hours no problems

tepid basalt
#

so what you do that make the computer crash?

novel urchin
#

Sometimes if I even pass over a youtube video the PC locks up as well.

tepid basalt
#

like instant crash the moment you touch it

#

or crash after a while?

#

watching youtube video?

novel urchin
#

Youtube videos instant crash either that or it locks up completely frozen.

misty heron
#

Hello

novel urchin
#

can't even watch them

misty heron
#

Im back for like the 15 th time this week

tepid basalt
#

have you tried to use the computer without the gpu?

novel urchin
#

yeah the integrated GPU has the same issues.

misty heron
#

I had question but ill wait

novel urchin
#

I did that first off the bat

proper belfry
#

Hey i was wanting some more opinions on a 3900X and a RTX 2070 super and if its a good match

novel urchin
#

Ran the bare bones system with no extra peripherals or add-ons.

tepid basalt
#

Hey i was wanting some more opinions on a 3900X and a RTX 2070 super and if its a good match
@proper belfry I suppose you use the 3900x for work, so I'll say they're good together

novel urchin
#

The GPU is good I tested it on another machine. Works great

tepid basalt
#

ic

#

you also swapped the mobo for a new one

#

hmm

#

bios update?

novel urchin
#

All new parts.

tepid basalt
#

ah not with this board I guess

novel urchin
#

Nah, hesitant about doing that. Maybe I should give it a shot

tepid basalt
#

wait

#

lemme look sth up quickly

novel urchin
#

There is only one bios update for this board it's currently running Bios ver 3.30. The next update is 3.70

#

Update AMD AGESA Combo-AM4 1.0.0.4 Patch B

#

opps can't post the link to the Asrock support page

#

I am hesitant becuase I am not sure what that update even addresses as there is no release notes about it.

proper belfry
#

@tepid basalt i would be using the PC for work and gaming

tepid basalt
#

There is only one bios update for this board it's currently running Bios ver 3.30. The next update is 3.70
@novel urchin I think you should try to update the bios

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but before that

#

stress test the rams with dram calculator first

novel urchin
#

Yeah firefox tab just crashed again. Crap. I did a search to get more info on the Bios and while scrolling tab crashed. GRRR.

tepid basalt
#

by crash

#

you mean firefox

#

or windows

misty heron
#

Hey what would i put into this slot????

novel urchin
#

I'll do the stress test with MEMTEST Dram calculator. Thanks for the tip. just discussing it is helping with my headache lmao

#

Yeah firefox.

tepid basalt
#

Hey what would i put into this slot????
@misty heron nothing, that's for error checking

misty heron
#

Phew

#

I thought i lost a wire haha

novel urchin
#

It didn't crash the browser just the tab

#

Got to set up my USB for memtest. I will get back to you Karozy with the outcome.

tepid basalt
#

okay

#

@novel urchin btw don't use easy mode, use the memtest mode or sth, I can't recall the name, you'll know when you see it

misty heron
#

Aghhh these wires suck

#

The ones coming out of the psu are so fat and ugly

#

Ughhhh

ripe sonnet
#

not sure if there's a better place to ask but i've been wondering about getting some nice braided sata cables and found either corsair with a more tubular shape or cablemod that are flatter. anyone have any opinions on those or any others out there?

potent prairie
#

Cablemod is nice. If you aren't doing custom made cables and buy from them, go for Amazon as you then save $20 on shipping

primal coyote
#

First timer on things and was wondering if this is a good build or would I need to upgrade anything?
Ryzen 5 3600
Asrock b550
Team mp4 512 GB m.2 ssd
Seagate firecuda 2tb
Gigabyte geforce rtx 2070 super
Corsair txm gold 550 w

desert gulch
#

What ram?

sand falcon
#

No ram, all swap

primal coyote
#

Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory

sand falcon
#

Coward

desert gulch
#

Might wanna go for 3600 ram for amd

sand falcon
#

For a 3600, not that much of a biggie

primal coyote
#

But everything else is good?

sand falcon
#

Ditch the fire cuda and just get a barracuda

desert gulch
#

It's 55 right now and free shipping for 2 tbs

#

I got a barracuda

sand falcon
#

Barracuda is good

#

firecuda is just overpriced

primal coyote
#

Alright I'll do that

sand falcon
#

What case are you getting?

primal coyote
#

NZXT H510 black

sand falcon
#

Of course you are steveconfused

#

There's not some other case you like?

#

The h510 is extremely cliche at this point... basically everyone who comes here wants to use it.

#

It also has bad airflow and cooling

primal coyote
#

What would you recommend? I dont have a preference really 🤷🏿‍♀️

sand falcon
#

Basically anything but the nzxt

#

Just scroll around and pick one that looks nice and fits all your components, then check back in to make sure it's got good airflow. Case is largely what you think will look good

tepid basalt
#

it's not exactly bad airflow

#

it even helps the gpu stays very cool

#

I've never had any problem with it so far

#

my cpu temp may be high at 7x, close to 8x but that's because I'm using the stock cooler

#

and the case has nothing to do with it

final void
#

I chose the q300L instead of the H510

#

Bit smaller but not that bad

tepid basalt
#

I don't like case with no basement

#

but well

#

it's your build, your choice

lyric thistle
#

Case with no basement 😳

#

Does that just mean PSU is on top, no hard drive tray under a PSU shroud?

tepid basalt
#

no, q300l has psu in the bottom

lyric thistle
#

Ye I gotcha

#

Just no shroud

tepid basalt
#

and I just realize they install the gpu to the 2nd pcie slot

lyric thistle
#

Choked GPU fan

tepid basalt
#

reinforced pcie slot: am I a joke to you?

silk estuary
#

That makes me sad inside

lyric thistle
#

My brother's old Biostar board has the main slot on the bottom

silk estuary
#

They aren't even using the first m.2 slot wtf

tepid basalt
#

that sounds like biostar

silk estuary
#

Why they got gpu in the 2nd slot, using the psu as support?

tepid basalt
#

I think they want to show off that gpu anti-sag

silk estuary
#

I hope they changed it back afterwards...

tepid basalt
#

They aren't even using the first m.2 slot wtf
@silk estuary also, I find using the 2nd m.2 slot actually makes sense thermally

silk estuary
#

I mean, yeah I have mine in my second slot but only because my 1st gpu slot makes it so my 1st m2 slot doesnt work

tepid basalt
#

really?

#

what board has such a dumb lane layout?

silk estuary
#

I'm planning on vertical mounting my gpu, putting the cable in the second slot, and getting a second m2

#

Well it's either the mobo or i was an idiot

#

I'm using the asrock extreme4

lyric thistle
silk estuary
#

Didn't come with one or else I would have

#

I bought mine preowned

tepid basalt
#

which slots are you using rn

#

bc one is for wifi

#

I doubt you'd mistake wifi slot

#

just to be sure

silk estuary
#

Pcie 1 and M2 Wi-Fi, (cuz I have a m2 wifi card), as well as m2 2

lyric thistle
#

That's physically impossible for a longer drive tho lol

silk estuary
#

Yh

tepid basalt
#

so the m2_1 doesn't work?

silk estuary
#

I haven't tested it since I installed windows

#

But it worked when I had my gpu in the second pcie16 slot

tepid basalt
#

hmm

#

weird

#

but interesting

silk estuary
#

I'll try it again tomorrow with gpu in pcie1 and the m2 in the first slot

tepid basalt
#

yeah I think you should

#

also this board has a dumb design imo

lyric thistle
#

How many lanes are in the second 16x slot?

silk estuary
#

How do you mean?

#

Also, I don't mind it, I like it

tepid basalt
#

they're both x16

#

I find it dumb because if you happen to need to replace the m.2, you'll have to remove the gpu for that

lyric thistle
#

Yes but how many lanes go to the second slot lol

tepid basalt
#

16

#

ofc

lyric thistle
#

Is it truly 16 lanes 👀

tepid basalt
#

it's x570

#

it's supposed to be like that

lyric thistle
#

Ok

tepid basalt
silk estuary
#

Ok well it's midnight ima continue this talk later cuz i work tomorrow lol

tepid basalt
#

gn

silk estuary
#

Night

cold sorrel
#

And I wait for power supplies to not be so freaking rare. I'm beginning to think it'll be September before I actually get to build my PC

lyric thistle
#

Lol same

#

I ordered one from B&H that's backordered

#

Gonna be a while before I get to turn my computer back on peepoSadSip

cold sorrel
#

Right now all I have is case. (It was on sale for a good price and I moved on it)

little osprey
#

What are you looking to pay per fan?
@little osprey around $100

#

not per fan sorry

marsh kiln
#

How's this build list?

mint rain
#

q

potent prairie
#

@marsh kiln I would not buy a Samsung ssd. MP34 is lots cheaper and provides most of the performance

#

Otherwise looks solid

lyric thistle
#

All my homies hate Samsung SSDs 😎

potent prairie
#

Yeah lol

#

And I own two of em

lyric thistle
#

I have green PCB Samsung RAM da_heck

potent prairie
#

Noice lol

#

If you don't have glass in your case, who cares

lyric thistle
#

Lol

potent prairie
#

puts rgb ram in a optiplex

lyric thistle
#

😳

analog hearth
#

green PCB noises

lyric thistle
#

Every PCB in my computer is a green PCB 😎

#

To protect the environment Nice

potent prairie
#

Just coat everything in flex seal

#

Then you have a nice black pcb

#

Under a quarter inch of cheap rubberiod stuff

lyric thistle
#

Xd

bold turret
#

how much 1080 goes for?

tall condor
#

you might get a deal for 300 second hand

#

new are 549 and up

cloud drum
#

GTX 1080?

tall condor
#

yeah, i believe so

potent prairie
#

That moment when a guy on craigslist wants to pay for a computer with a cashiers check 🙄

sullen spoke
#

lol

#

ye used can be found under 400

#

wait no, 400 is 1080 ti

lyric thistle
#

1080 XT

cloud drum
#

like the 5700xt is better

little osprey
#

What motherboard do y’all recommend for a ryzen 5 3600

fast dust
#

A decent B450 or B550

last tendon
#

if you can find one a msi b450 tomahawk is the go to motherboard for most people

arctic jungle
#

@little osprey if you plan on making bunches of upgrades go 550

little osprey
#

@last tendon bro i tried looking everywhere for an msi b450 but they were out of stock every single place

buoyant aurora
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Never forgetti

misty heron
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Which windows version should i get for my pc??

fast dust
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10

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Usually windows 10 home is what you get

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No need for win 10 pro most of the time

misty heron
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And i go to ebay for that right?

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Whats the home N ??

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@fast dust

fast dust
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Yes just go to eBay

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To get a key

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And lots of sellers sell pro so you can get pro if you want

misty heron
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Kk ty

misty heron
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Wait they gave me windows for free

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What?

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Cool ig

sand falcon
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That happens sometimes

little osprey
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32gb of ram gang

sand falcon
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Most people don't need 32GB

little osprey
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well I got my 32gb basically for free

sand falcon
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If free, that's fine

viral ore
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i got 64 for free lmao

little osprey
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we need a tachanka trailer

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a new one

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for his rework

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can someone help

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with what

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gimme some details

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where does it go

sand falcon
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You don't need it

little osprey
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mmmmmmmm

viral ore
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lower left of the motherboard

bright shale
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^

sand falcon
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probably something like "FP audio"

buoyant flame
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Should be in motherboard manual

little osprey
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yes

buoyant flame
little osprey
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I'm probably the only one who reads all the manuals before building

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it says aafp

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LMAO

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I absolutely love reading manuals

viral ore
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i read my motherboard manual online multiple times before purchasing it lol

buoyant flame
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Who doesn't?

little osprey
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mmmmmmmmm

viral ore
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idk crazy people

little osprey
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sorry first time builder

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bruh

viral ore
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2.2

little osprey
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read the whole damn thing

buoyant flame
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Front io connector most likely

viral ore
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2.2.2

buoyant flame
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Nvm

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Lol

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I would still read it all tho

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Especially since your a first time builder

little osprey
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we got it boys

buoyant flame
potent prairie
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I wonder if all them eBay window keys are keygen'd, commercial versions, or just from another country. Whatevs

viral ore
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lmao

potent prairie
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@little osprey
MP34 is like $4 more and is a much better SSD. In the future, ask for help w/ builds in here rather than #build-pics 🙂

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PSU is a solid choice

little osprey
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@potent prairie thx bro

little osprey
spiral zealot
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enable D.O.C.P, so your ram will run at the proper speed, it defaults to the slower 2133mhz out of the box

latent storm
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do you guys think that a 550w psu will be good for now until psu stocks are back to normal

fast dust
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@latent storm what make and model

latent storm
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evga supernova 550 g3

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the 650w one isn’t in stock right now

fast dust
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Uh for what CPU+GPU?

latent storm
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ryzen 5 3600 and founders edition 2070 super

fast dust
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Yeah should be totally fine

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In fact no need to buy a 650w when you have this 550

latent storm
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i mean later down the road when i upgrade y’know

fast dust
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Alrighty then

crude otter
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I wish the psu Supplies would level out soon, psu is the only piece I'm missing for my build and my corsair is back ordered

latent storm
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@crude otter get the supernova 550 g3 right now

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this is the first time i’ve seen it in stock in weeks

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@fast dust i have no idea right now tbh

sharp tide
crude otter
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Back ordered a corsair rm750x, should know in the next few days if itll ship or not.

fast dust
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Oh I was don’t talking anyways

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*done

sharp tide
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same

misty heron
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How much fps would i lose if i started streaming?

fast dust
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Depends on CPU and if you’re using a capture card or not

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What CPU do you have

misty heron
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I have a ryzen 5 3600

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And my 1050 mini is giving me like 150+ fps on fortnite so im thinking i should return my 2060super

delicate forge
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ahh man id keep it

misty heron
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Yea thats what im thinking

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But i wanna know how much fps id lose

delicate forge
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maybe in that game non

misty heron
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In the event that i get like 90fps during end zone

delicate forge
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idk if it locks it at a max

misty heron
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Imma dl streamlabs

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To c

wary geode
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yea

delicate forge
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there are other task your card might be better at anyways and other games might lean on harder task and still look worse for example arma3