#building-and-recc-chat

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sand falcon
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ppp doesn't always give the best power ratings, can you link your parts list?

oblique vessel
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uhhhh

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can I dm it to you?

sand falcon
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Yup

fallen atlas
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Hey guys so I connected the GPU, made sure to connect the HDMI from the GPU to the monitor and still no display. GPU fans were spinning as well.

potent prairie
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You connected the power cables to the gpu right? The card is properly seated?

fallen atlas
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Card is properly seated, everything is pressed firm and clicked in. I had to use a 6-to-8 pin adaptor for the GPU. One thing I noticed was that the black cables all face the clip on while on the 8pin connection for the motherboard, the yellow wires face the clip. Is that common?

little osprey
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So all my parts arrived on the second

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I just can't build it rn unfortunately

sand falcon
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That's fun though

little osprey
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I got everything, even a wifi usb adapter

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But, it's all sitting in the shipping boxes

sand falcon
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I got everything, even a wifi usb adapter
@little osprey Pain

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Much pain

little osprey
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Tell me about it

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I got it all $100 cheaper then I wanted too

sand falcon
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No, pain because of the wifi adapter.

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That's a good deal though

little osprey
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Ahh

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Yeah the only wifi Mobo they had till mid June was $300

sand falcon
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x570?

little osprey
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450

sand falcon
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Really? wow

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Stock really is bad right now

little osprey
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So I got a gigabyte 450 for $180 with an Asus 2.4/5 wifi adapter for $35

sand falcon
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Not bad

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Might have been better with a pcie card though

little osprey
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I also sacrificed a 2060/1660 for 570

jagged ember
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ouch

little osprey
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Yeah

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And I got a, I believe, rosewill challenger S

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But like I said, sitting in their boxes still

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There's the list as far as I remember

little leaf
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@little osprey whats your budget?

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I don't think thats the best you can do

stoic island
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yea...

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b450 pro carbon ac/max has been 160$

little leaf
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that 570 is not good

stoic island
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anyways

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1650s is better at the same prices

little leaf
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ye

stoic island
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but if it's already bought, nothing to do now

little osprey
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1650 wasn't in stock

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I do plan to upgrade within the year

wary geode
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Yes wait for the 30 series to release

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I do same

little osprey
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It's just, 620 is getting a bit dull

stoic island
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There's a lot of 1650s cards :p

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I haven't seen all of them go out of stock yet

little osprey
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When I checked there werent

stoic island
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What country do you live in

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For example, in the US, for at least the past month or two, the zotac twin fan has been steadily at 160$ in stock

little osprey
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Huh

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Weird

stoic island
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B&H tho, not in stock at Newegg.

wary geode
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Yea

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He right

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I’m trying to get legend just lazyyyyy

wide sparrow
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@fierce flame love your build

fierce flame
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@wide sparrow thank you!

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long awaited for me and carefully worked on

wide sparrow
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Amazing

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That gpu us very expensive when i saw it online a while ago.

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Those fan lighting effects are so good

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You did a great job on everything

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Ultra clean setup

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Well maybe the 24 pin could be better but who cares

fierce flame
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@wide sparrow the cpu cable, 24 pin and PCIE cables are place holders until my cablemod ones get here

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other than that really thats it.

wide sparrow
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Yeah

muted skiff
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I want that water cooling PC so bad I have nothing

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That would start my career

jagged ember
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No just get a beefy air cooler

toxic widget
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Intel for the best gaming performance, AMD for streaming, Gaming, editing @little osprey

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But intel cost a lot

manic dew
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@toxic widget i have no objection

cursive wharf
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Intel is best for gaming if you have the money*
99.9% of the time an Intel gaming machine would end up being worse due to lowering the GPU budget for the CPU budget

foggy bough
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thats why intel gei

tepid basalt
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that's going to change...

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10400f with a bottom b or h board will outperform amd's rig at the same price point in gaming

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the difference is not big

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doesn't make sense to upgrade, but makes perfect sense for new builds

brittle raptor
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Hey guys, I'm new here

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Just wanted some advice on how to upgrade my current pc

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I got a Gigabyte 2070 and i5 9400F

viral ore
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what monitor do you have

brittle raptor
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benq xl2546 240hz

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I mainly play cs go but the fps isnt the best

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idk why

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its like 190-230

viral ore
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that would be because of your cpu

tepid basalt
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possibly because the boost on that cpu is poor

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you can try a 9700f

viral ore
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hitting 240fps in games takes more than graphics power

brittle raptor
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I dont know that much about pc's

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thanks guys for helping

viral ore
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im sure 9th gen intel cpus have gone down in price due to the launch of 10th gen, so upgrading that would be your best bet

brittle raptor
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u recommend upgrading to i7 right

viral ore
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9700k would be ideal

tepid basalt
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I don't think he has a Z board

viral ore
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9900k isnt worth the extra money

tepid basalt
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non K is better

viral ore
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i think non k is slower at stock speeds

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and they cost about the same anyway

brittle raptor
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i'll give these two a look

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thanks guys

tepid basalt
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40 usd difference

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and I don't think lower base affect much in gaming

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it also helps your cpu run cooler when not game

viral ore
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base clock wont matter

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boost is only like .2GHz

tepid basalt
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the boost is also just 200mhz difference

viral ore
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so yeah it might not be worth the extra

tepid basalt
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but also about his motherboard...

arctic jungle
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yea amd is a better budget option bc it comes with a cooler

sand falcon
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Also because it is cheaper in general

arctic jungle
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ye

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just has less brand value and performance overall tho

sand falcon
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Say what?

arctic jungle
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intel is a brand name, and has better performance for price

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with that, higher price

sand falcon
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AMD has better performance for price and is also a brand name

arctic jungle
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not as much as intel

sand falcon
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It is now

arctic jungle
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not rlly

sand falcon
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AMD is basically the fastest growing tech company in the world

arctic jungle
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if u look at any cmopany that builds computers, apple, hp, dell, etc. they all use intel chips

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im not saying ur wrong

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but as of rn, intel is still bigger

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intel has the brand value

sand falcon
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There are tons of oem manufacturers that are using amd. The only reason that there aren't more is amd ryzen is still new and there hasn't been time to design around it

arctic jungle
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its just as old as intel lmao

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older, actually

sand falcon
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Fixed it, I was talking about ryzen

arctic jungle
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ah

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well u may be right abt more ppl switching to AMD, but again, as of right now, all the biggest computer building companies use intel core or xeon.

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samd for nvidia vs amd gpus

sand falcon
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So so. The really big ones are using both. Apple is using amd gpu and is switching to arm processors

arctic jungle
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thats in the 6000$ mac pro which u could easily get a POWERHOUSE PC

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apple is discontinuing the mac pro bc they failed there

sand falcon
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You cited apple before, that's why I cited it here

stoic island
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well

arctic jungle
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it was there chance to enter the world of high end processing and gaming pcs

stoic island
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look at dgx

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Even nvidia switched to AMD

arctic jungle
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wdym

sand falcon
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Yup

stoic island
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and admitted Epyc rome was the most powerful chips avaliable

sand falcon
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The dgx a100, the most powerful single computer ever built, uses amd

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And it's built and designed by nvidia

stoic island
arctic jungle
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well amd does have a 4000$ chip that no commercial user will buy

stoic island
sand falcon
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Intel has far more expensive chips than that, let's be real

stoic island
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you're talking high end

sand falcon
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And they don't perform anywhere near as well

stoic island
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we're bringing up high end

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sand falcon
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AMD is the king of high end and low end

arctic jungle
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im talking abt things ordinary ppl can affford

stoic island
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oh yea dell is bringing ryzen chips to alienware desktops

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did yall see that

arctic jungle
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intel is the middle ground

sand falcon
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Yup

stoic island
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pretty neat

arctic jungle
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better performance for a slightly higher price

sand falcon
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AMD has the middle ground too

arctic jungle
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where

sand falcon
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also, afordable for normal people and you're rocking a 10980 with sli?

stoic island
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AMD has 3300x to 3950x

arctic jungle
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ignore my build, thats for my specialty purposes

sand falcon
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3100x is there too

stoic island
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Ignoring your build

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eh 3100 isn't too worth

sand falcon
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It's okay

stoic island
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decent chip if you really need to spare 20$ in the budget

sand falcon
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If you really need cheap

arctic jungle
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lmao this is the part where I scream INTEL FOREVER!, stab myself, and fall of the bridge

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jkjk

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i get it

sand falcon
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It actually outclasses most i7's from two generations ago

arctic jungle
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2 generations ago

bright shale
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So eh.. i need help

sand falcon
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Yeah, that includes the 7700k

stoic island
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can we just not dwell on this

sand falcon
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Yup. AMD wins almost everything

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intel has 5% single core win for now

bright shale
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The MSI b450 tomahawk max is out of stock

sand falcon
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Sounds about righ @bright shale

bright shale
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How long does it take to restock things like that

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or... will it even come back lmao

sand falcon
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Maybe months, who knows rn

stoic island
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corona making stock bad, I can reccomend some other boards that might be in stock tho

sand falcon
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Yup

bright shale
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Sure!

sand falcon
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What's the specs for the rest of your build

bright shale
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rn?

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bad.

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its dying

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but i want an R5 2600

stoic island
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god b450 stock is pathetic

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What's your total budget?

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and what are you upgrading

bright shale
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Exactly $286 for SSD, RAM, and MOBO

sand falcon
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Okay then

bright shale
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Friend bought me the cpu lol

sand falcon
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How much do we have until b550?

stoic island
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a while

bright shale
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oof

stoic island
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hmm

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how big a ssd do you want

bright shale
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1 tb

sand falcon
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Okay then

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sata or nvme?

bright shale
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Is the WD green aight?

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sata pls

sand falcon
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That's an hdd, isn't it?

bright shale
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nah

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the ssd

stoic island
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286 before or after tax

bright shale
stoic island
bright shale
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micro at

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x

stoic island
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Don't get wd green, it's dramless

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mhm

sand falcon
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Yeah

bright shale
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Oof

stoic island
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nothing wrong with mATX

sand falcon
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Wait for a sale on newegg for ssd

stoic island
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well

sand falcon
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I got an intel 660p for $85

stoic island
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could put in a vulcan or something that's a good 2.5in drive

bright shale
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i cant wait lmao

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my hdd is like

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dead

sand falcon
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Is it your harddrive that;s dead?

bright shale
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yeah

sand falcon
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Not your pc?

bright shale
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but while im at it i wanna upgrade from an i3 4150 lmao

sand falcon
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Okay

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What sort of dead is your hdd?

bright shale
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Almost

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very close

sand falcon
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What about it is dying?

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Are you getting data corruption?

bright shale
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no

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just old age

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7 years old to be exact

stoic island
sand falcon
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That's fine as long as the data is intact. Did windows give you some sort of warning?

bright shale
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no

stoic island
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thats mobo ram ssd

bright shale
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i just noticed it start to bog down

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it takes 7 mins to boot

stoic island
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decent mobo, decent ram, decent ssd.

bright shale
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and it failed the HDD test

sand falcon
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When was the last time you defragged it?

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What HDD test?

bright shale
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data lifeguard

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WD's own

sand falcon
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hmmm okay then

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WD drives can usually last longer than that but idk

stoic island
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7 years it gets iffy anyways

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oh god damn it

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that board is oos

viral ore
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rip

stoic island
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anyways

bright shale
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Ight so i got it to 313

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i can afford that

stoic island
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trying to find a good mobo in stock

bright shale
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are there any ATX boards in stock?

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If it doesnt have RGB, das aight

stoic island
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basically no

bright shale
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F

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Hmmm maybe used

stoic island
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btw you can put a mATX board in an ATX case

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it just looks smaller, nothing else is different

bright shale
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I know

sand falcon
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I have mATX right now

bright shale
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Wait

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They look not bad in case

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a

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Wasnt expecting that at all lmao

sand falcon
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How's that?

bright shale
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it looks pretty ight

sand falcon
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yeah

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Especially in a smaller case

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are you going to be reusing your old case?

bright shale
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Hehehehehehehahhahah aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha

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yes

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I have a corsair carbide spec 04

sand falcon
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What case is it?

bright shale
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tempered glass

sand falcon
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Yeah, it will fit just fine there

bright shale
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yey

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ill go with a Gigabyte B450 AORUS M

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that a good board?

stoic island
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decent

bright shale
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DAMNIT

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its out of stock lmfao

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uhh shitake mushrooms

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Wait nvm

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lmao

sand falcon
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Those things are good

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Make good soup

bright shale
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cool

exotic marten
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So bought 6600k ASRock Z170 16GB 3200 Gskill. Now I've been getting a ton of BSODs. Did memetest no errors. Reset windows (kept files), swapped sata cables, tried different slots, tried 1 stick at a time, completely rebuilt machine. No idea what the damn issue is. Anyone got any insight?

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Just ordered new sticks of 3200. BIOS on all stock so it's not even running at 3200. 2133

stoic island
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what are the bsod codes

exotic marten
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I get WHEA uncorrectable mostly. Got IRQL twice last night

sand falcon
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Might be one of the files you kept. That's basically the only thing that hasn't changed

exotic marten
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Weird though as I had no issues with 4690k. Had blue screens sometimes but that was from OC

stoic island
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tried clean install yet?

exotic marten
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Was playing Warzone last night. Got to an end of a match and stuttering and lag started. Exited and blue screen

stoic island
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could be the drive is corrupted or damaged, or some files are corrupted

sand falcon
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Wait, did you keep the files from the 4960k build?

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exotic marten
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About to do it

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Yeah I just did a reset with keeping the files. Deletes apps. Did windows change something with that option?

stoic island
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don't think so

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do you have a spare drive around?

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because you could try just swapping out for another drive and just clean install windows

exotic marten
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I got like 2 SSDs and two hdds but they got games on them.

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Could partition though.

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Really think it's windows? Just went through installing everything again. Rip

sand falcon
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Windows craps itself sometimes

exotic marten
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*in the machine in use

stoic island
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can you format one of them that doesn't have important files? you can reinstall games later if it's just a 120gb drive or something

exotic marten
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That's true.

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What if it's not windows? Any other thoughts ?

stoic island
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probably not imo

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It's bsoding, so 95% chance it's something with software

exotic marten
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Yeah I never have had this before just randoms from OCing

stoic island
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not like it's shutting off suddenly from PSU tripping or something

exotic marten
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Ye think she's still holding in there

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Thanks for the help

stoic island
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yw

gloomy snow
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can someone make me a pcpp list.
It will be used for streaming, gaming.
Budget $750
I am purchasing tomorrow

arctic jungle
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@gloomy snow what res/fps?

gloomy snow
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1080p 60

arctic jungle
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also what games

gloomy snow
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fortnite mostly

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gta sometimes

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csgo barely

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some others

arctic jungle
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i'de go with one of the 16-- series

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for gpu

gloomy snow
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im aiming towards a 3600 cpu (since im gonna be streaming)

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people say that its hard streaming on a 1660

arctic jungle
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that doesn't mean anything

sand falcon
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It's hard building a budget build without it

gloomy snow
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thats why i tried going with a 2060 (but its over budget)

sand falcon
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Especially buying tomorrow. Eberything is OOS rn

celest horizon
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1660 ti/super are the best GPU choice for a single pc streaming setup in that price range.

gloomy snow
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Yeah

arctic jungle
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also u cant fit a 3600 into ur budget probably, and 16-- series is fine

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I would go 2nd gen ryzen 5

celest horizon
sand falcon
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All of those games are pretty light... You want to try fitting a 2700x in there?

arctic jungle
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not an x

celest horizon
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Just get a 3600 on sale for $167

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Some $90 b450 max board, 2x8GB 3600 mhz ram for <$80, etc

stoic island
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okay so

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750$?

sand falcon
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I don't think there is a 2700 non x, is there?

stoic island
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there is

sand falcon
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wtf

stoic island
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750 streaming gaming in stock now

celest horizon
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I bought one on prime day for $150 lol

sand falcon
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Yes

stoic island
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I'll make a list

sand falcon
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@gloomy snow Do you have any parts that we can reuse from an old pc?

stoic island
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3300x is more expensive than 3600 rn lolol

sand falcon
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lol

arctic jungle
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hot damn

gloomy snow
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yes

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my 1 tb hdd

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saves $50

arctic jungle
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i7k 10th gen went from 400$ 2 days ago to 700$

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on newegg

sand falcon
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What are the specs on the old system? Does it have a PSU we can pull?

arctic jungle
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maybe some RAM?

sand falcon
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Are you building a budget system with intel, Antago?

stoic island
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everythings backordered lmfao

gloomy snow
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no @sand falcon

arctic jungle
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no, bob

sand falcon
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okay

arctic jungle
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lmao ofc not

sand falcon
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I was worried there

celest horizon
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Just recycle the 1TB drive for storage. Grab a $70 500GB WD black or whatever is on sale.

gloomy snow
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im buying a $34 ssd

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nvme m.2

sand falcon
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Could maybe go to a 256GB ssd

gloomy snow
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from amazon

sand falcon
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What brand?

arctic jungle
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@gloomy snow ram u could reuse?

stoic island
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wait

gloomy snow
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no no no

celest horizon
gloomy snow
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i currently have a prebuilt

stoic island
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Mp34 tho

gloomy snow
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its trash

stoic island
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forks

arctic jungle
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but recycle the parts tho

gloomy snow
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my ram has no heatsyncs

sand falcon
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You can still pull stuff from it

gloomy snow
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and runs 2200

sand falcon
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That's fine

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That's meh

gloomy snow
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thats fine?

arctic jungle
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ram is ram

sand falcon
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No heatsink is fine

stoic island
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eh they're close enough

gloomy snow
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id rather get new stuff

stoic island
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ex950 or mp34

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512gb

gloomy snow
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3200 mhz

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and 16gb ram

sand falcon
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What ssd are you looking at geting?

gloomy snow
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kingston

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i think

sand falcon
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What part number?

arctic jungle
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I have a nice list for u

stoic island
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god damn

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when ds3h is the only one thats 1 week back ordered

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lol

sand falcon
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Nice

stoic island
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unless forks you got anything in stock around?

gloomy snow
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Kingston A400 240G Internal SSD M.2 2280 SA400M8/240G - Increase Performance @sand falcon

stoic island
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no dont

gloomy snow
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im only using to boot windows

sand falcon
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No

stoic island
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a400 is dramless

sand falcon
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Still no

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Bad djudju

gloomy snow
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im on a budget

sand falcon
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Still no

gloomy snow
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$700-$750

sand falcon
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It will die in about three years

celest horizon
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Everyone's on a budget

sand falcon
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or less

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Don't get that ssd

arctic jungle
stoic island
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yea

arctic jungle
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try that

stoic island
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ms30 is trash

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please dont

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I have one

gloomy snow
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i also have 3 fans

arctic jungle
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cases come with fans

sand falcon
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Fans are good. What size?

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Can add more fans though

arctic jungle
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true

gloomy snow
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thats bad @arctic jungle

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1 stick of ram.

sand falcon
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You'll be fine at that budget with one stick

stoic island
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750 before tax

arctic jungle
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@gloomy snow 1 stick faster than 2 sticks

stoic island
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I can shave a bit more off if you need 750 after tax

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wtf no

gloomy snow
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thats good @stoic island

stoic island
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Dual channel matters a lot

sand falcon
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Also Antago you have a 2600 in there

gloomy snow
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i should be able to stream 1080p off 1660 super?

stoic island
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Yes

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if you need it to be a bit cheaper, you can put in aegis 2x8gb 3200mhzcl16 ram

sand falcon
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Wait, if you have a prebuilt, can we use that case?

stoic island
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theres prob a cheaper case to be had

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but focus g is usually good

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gloomy snow
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itts bad

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my case

sand falcon
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Will it work?

gloomy snow
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yeah, but i dont wanna do it

celest horizon
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Honestly tho - get a 3600, b450, 2x8GB 3600mhz, some 500GB NVME like the one I linked or whatever they recommend here, then some 1660 ti or super

stoic island
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forks thats basically my list lol

sand falcon
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You're squeeking bare minimum on your system specs. If we drop the case we can get better parts

stoic island
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cant fit 512gb yet, only 256gb rn

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I'll try to fit 512gb

sand falcon
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How much to get a 1660ti in there?

stoic island
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1660ti usually not worth more than 1660 super

gloomy snow
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only problem is

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i dont think i can take the front panel off my case

stoic island
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might need another fan or two in that case tho

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could get some p12s

sand falcon
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What is the prebuilt you have?

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I'm gonna try to get a 2060 in there. Wish me luck

stoic island
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lol good luck

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@sand falcon would be simple if 3300x was 120$

gloomy snow
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yea

stoic island
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but it's not

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it's 200$ rn for some reason

sand falcon
#

I'm thinking if we can get in that case, we can get a 2060

gloomy snow
#

im sticking with 3600

#

no matter wat

stoic island
#

fair enough

#

why did I guess banhammer was box

gloomy snow
#

lol

stoic island
#

who else would have a name like banhammer

sand falcon
#

I'm thinking we can get in the case Mr1111, check buld pics

gloomy snow
stoic island
#

eck

#

glass front lol

gloomy snow
#

exactly

stoic island
#

airflows gonna hurt

#

a lot

gloomy snow
#

yes

#

is there a way to take the glass off

stoic island
#

dunno

sand falcon
#

BanHammer +glass = no glass

stoic island
#

p300a is nice, but need a bit more fans

sand falcon
#

The side panel looks to come off

gloomy snow
#

yes

sand falcon
#

What's the wattage on the PSU?

gloomy snow
#

500

#

oh

#

the one i have now?

stoic island
#

what exact psu is it

sand falcon
#

yee

stoic island
#

yea

gloomy snow
#

idk

#

its prebuilt

arctic jungle
#

check

gloomy snow
#

i cant

sand falcon
#

Probably some kinda sketchy metal one?

arctic jungle
#

wdym, search the model number

gloomy snow
#

theres no stickers

#

its just plain black metal

arctic jungle
#

damn, thats cold

sand falcon
#

Sticker might be on the other side

#

Black is a good sign though

gloomy snow
#

ugh

sand falcon
#

What's the part number of the prebuilt itself. We might be able to find it from that

gloomy snow
#

im not re using the psu

#

im not sureee

stoic island
#

lol

#

yea just get a br 500w its simple enough

gloomy snow
#

yeah

sand falcon
#

I'm thinking reusing the case might not be worth with the glass front

gloomy snow
#

why cant i send pcpp links?

stoic island
#

bot

#

is being bot

#

gotta level up

#

and become blue name

sand falcon
#

Take the http off the front and it works

gloomy snow
sand falcon
#

@stoic island You're most recent link doesn't have a 512 ssd in it....

stoic island
#

hmm?

#

oh shoot

gloomy snow
#

thats what i got so far

#

just need motherboard right?

stoic island
#

copied wrong list

sand falcon
#

Just to make sure, you don't need wifi, right?

stoic island
#

(have ethernet)

gloomy snow
#

i have a adapter

#

little usb thing that connects me

sand falcon
#

Don't use that for streaming

#

It will tank bad

gloomy snow
#

why?

sand falcon
#

There's no way it will be able to handle the bandwidth

gloomy snow
#

so i need ethernet

#

?

sand falcon
#

Use ethernet

#

Yes

gloomy snow
#

the cable?

sand falcon
#

Yes

gloomy snow
#

i live with my parentss,

sand falcon
#

Okay

gloomy snow
#

not sure how my mom would feel about a long ass wire

stoic island
#

lol

gloomy snow
#

running through the hallway

stoic island
#

a good pcie wifi adapter might be enough

gloomy snow
#

hm theres this thing

#

lemme take a pic

sand falcon
#

Drop back to 256gb and we should be able to fit a pcie adapter

stoic island
#

eh

gloomy snow
sand falcon
#

I see

gloomy snow
#

what is it

sand falcon
#

What's on the otherside?

gloomy snow
#

what u mean?

#

oh the back?

sand falcon
#

Yeah

gloomy snow
#

looks like 2 usbs?

sand falcon
#

oh

#

No antenna?

gloomy snow
#

no

stoic island
#

could be either ethernet or usb adapter

sand falcon
#

No circular holes?

gloomy snow
#

no

sand falcon
#

dang

#

not wifi then

#

Unless they're doing something weird

gloomy snow
#

yeah my mom is strict. she wouldnt like a wire running across the floor

#

she would unplug it mid stream and laugh

#

would the stream be TERRIBLE? With the usb adapter?

#

im sure it will handle decently?

#

@sand falcon

stoic island
#

latency and stuff

sand falcon
#

Yes

gloomy snow
#

is that bad?

sand falcon
#

Is it usb 2 or usb 3?

#

Also, you can post links now

gloomy snow
sand falcon
#

Is the adapter itself usb 2 or 3 though

gloomy snow
#

how i check?

stoic island
#

if you know the model

gloomy snow
#

it only works in that usb

sand falcon
#

Does it have any sort of part number on it?

#

Is that the only usb 3.0 port your computer has?

gloomy snow
#

no

#

like i said

#

i bought prebuilt

#

i barely know anything

sand falcon
#

The dongle came with it I take it?

gloomy snow
#

huh

sand falcon
#

Adapters like that are called dongles idk why

gloomy snow
#

tf

#

lol

sand falcon
#

yup

gloomy snow
#

this is confusing

sand falcon
#

That's normal

gloomy snow
#

so should i keep the case?

sand falcon
#

maybe?

gloomy snow
#

only prooblem, the glass front panel

sand falcon
#

exactly

gloomy snow
#

🤮

sand falcon
#

You are learning fast

gloomy snow
#

i can also mount the fans at the top of the case

#

for intake

#

and the back one for exhaust

sand falcon
#

Is there a grill on top?

gloomy snow
#

yep

#

theres cut outs too

sand falcon
#

Hmmmm

gloomy snow
#

ill take a pic

stoic island
#

interesting

gloomy snow
stoic island
gloomy snow
sand falcon
#

That could work. Looks like no dust filter though

gloomy snow
#

who cares

sand falcon
#

Dust

gloomy snow
#

i dust my pc

#

every week

sand falcon
#

Is this thing glass on both sides?

gloomy snow
#

the panels?

sand falcon
#

Yeah

gloomy snow
#

theres one on the left

#

right

#

and front

sand falcon
#

Okay then

gloomy snow
#

will dusting off my fans increase cooling performance

#

i wanna re use my rgb fans as well

sand falcon
#

It will decrease dust

gloomy snow
#

will it aid cooling?

sand falcon
#

If the dust is bad, yes

#

Big thing though is dust in heat sinks and radiators

gloomy snow
#

because my i5 2400 and 1060 gets hot while using fortnite or photoshop

#

maybe because i have bad parts

#

and a bad cpu cooler

sand falcon
#

How hot?

gloomy snow
#

warm

#

it gets hot though

sand falcon
#

What temperature?

gloomy snow
#

not sure

sand falcon
#

Anything up to about 160F is normal

gloomy snow
#

i could leave my side panels off

#

if that helps

sand falcon
#

More dust though

#

You can leave them on

gloomy snow
#

-_-

#

alright

#

also

#

my hdd gets hot as well

sand falcon
#

Can you touch it?

gloomy snow
#

its running 7200 rpm

#

yeah

sand falcon
#

If you can touch it for 30+ seconds, it's good

gloomy snow
#

okay

#

so whats gonna happen

#

i can re use the case?

sand falcon
#

Don't try to touch CPU or GPU though.

#

I think you can

#

What say you @stoic island?

stoic island
#

huh?

#

case is wack

gloomy snow
#

i agree

#

but it saves money

sand falcon
#

For a budget build with the fans on the top I think it could work

gloomy snow
#

and leaves room for better gpu

stoic island
#

actually yea

gloomy snow
#

YES!

#

Now all i need is a motherboard

stoic island
#

usually theres a decent 40$ case which would work but

#

not anymore

sand falcon
#

OOS?

gloomy snow
#

save the money

stoic island
#

yea

gloomy snow
#

okay

#

soo all i need is the motherboard

#

and possible a better gpu

#

possibly

stoic island
#

what do you have now

gloomy snow
#

1060

#

and i5 2400

#

8gb ram

#

1tb hdd

#

hows that gpu?

sand falcon
#

Is 5 dollars over budget okay?

stoic island
#

not worth over 1660 super

#

also out of stock

gloomy snow
#

yeah

sand falcon
#

You can get a 2060 in there

gloomy snow
#

mobo oos

stoic island
#

back ordered*

gloomy snow
#

Whats that

stoic island
#

honestly I'd go 1660 super with better ssd and ram :P

#

soon ish

sand falcon
#

For streaming though if we can get nvenc that will be good

gloomy snow
#

yea

sand falcon
#

Also rtx voice

gloomy snow
#

tf is that

sand falcon
#

It's amazing

#

Let me find the video

spiral zealot
#

the tl;dr is AI driven noise-suppression using your GPU to process it

sand falcon
#

Since you share a house, this will be a big help

spiral zealot
#

it's pretty genius and works pretty well too

gloomy snow
#

ah

sand falcon
#

And yeah, you can run it on non rtx cards but that's really sketchy and impacts performance

gloomy snow
#

so if my moms blasting bloody country music, they wont hear it?

sand falcon
#

The cool thing is that it uses the rtx cores, which most games don't use anyways so there's basically no performance hit

stoic island
#

Yes

sand falcon
#

Yup

gloomy snow
#

THANK GOD

stoic island
#

Well

#

not yet

sand falcon
#

Go to the end of the video

sullen spoke
#

it works really well but does have it's bugs, it is a very early access feature

stoic island
#

It still uses cuda rn and takes ram usage

#

in my experience

#

GN did some performance testing

gloomy snow
#

ah

sand falcon
#

It will take ram, but yeah

spiral zealot
#

yeah it's still basically late alpha/early beta stage as far as 'ready for launch'

sand falcon
#

Not much though

spiral zealot
#

so a work in progress

#

but promising nonetheless

stoic island
gloomy snow
#

yea

sand falcon
#

Super cool though

sullen spoke
#

it takes a bit more than 1gb of ram at first, but then drops down more around 30MB

stoic island
#

it's like 10% performance hit

gloomy snow
#

what video card are we doing

#

2060 ko?

stoic island
#

not small enough to ignore

little leaf
#

ye my board just shipped

stoic island
#

it's a sizable hit

sand falcon
#

How much more is the ko? Cheapest 2060 out there is already over budget

gloomy snow
#

$310

sand falcon
#

Might be okay then

gloomy snow
#

we are at $670 on pcpp

#

if we can get an $85 motherboard (which will be HARD) we will be perfect

little leaf
#

getting a motherboard for less than 85 is easy

gloomy snow
#

in stock?

sand falcon
#

You also will need a wifi card

gloomy snow
#

ah screw it

#

how bad could it hurt

sand falcon
#

A lot

little leaf
#

@gloomy snow if its back ordered it will ship within like a day

sand falcon
#

Can get cheaper ram

gloomy snow
#

what ram

#

@sand falcon

stoic island
#

aegis

#

3200mhz cl16

gloomy snow
#

i need 2x8gb 3200-3600

little leaf
#

@gloomy snow yes that is 3200

#

Whats your budget?

last pond
#

Hey yall. I just finished putting my build together and im having some issues. Anyone here that can give me some pointers?

gloomy snow
#

all i need now is the motherboard

sand falcon
#

Whatever ram Mr.1111 found before

gloomy snow
#

@sand falcon what motherboards are in stock on newegg?

sand falcon
gloomy snow
#

for ryzen 3600

#

yeah i got that

sand falcon
#

Basically none

gloomy snow
#

thats what i got

sand falcon
#

Add a cheap pcie wifi card

gloomy snow
#

yeah

#

where do i find that on pcpp

#

what category

#

can i just get an usb wifi thing with an antenna

sand falcon
#

Those are the ones you want

gloomy snow
#

yessir

little leaf
#

Don't get a usb one

gloomy snow
#

is this one good

little leaf
#

less reliable

gloomy snow
#

that good?

sand falcon
#

Maybe? My specialty is in wired/fiber, so I don't really know

little leaf
#

according to review it only opperates on 2.4ghz

still roostBOT
#
Paura#9431 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gloomy snow
#

shite

sand falcon
#

That's okay though. The signal will be going through the wall

#

The usb you have rn is probably a 2.4GHz one

gloomy snow
#

expensive

#

too expensive foor me

#

for*

sand falcon
#

How much budget are we at for mobo+wifi again?

#

If it weren't for stocking issues rn we could probably just find a wifi mobo

gloomy snow
#

yeah

#

umm

#

on pcpp (with the pcie wifi) we are at $671

#

the cheapest mobo with wifi is $130

#

on pcpp

#

that brings it to $785

sand falcon
#

That's a no go

gloomy snow
#

yea

#

im not gonna downgrade the gpu/cpu

#

those are perfect

sand falcon
#

So either a $79 motherboard or wait for stock to come back

gloomy snow
#

whats the $80 mobo?

#

i needa order this tomorroow

#

tomorrow

fast dust
#

Yeah you're gonna wanna look for 802.11ac or ax adapters

gloomy snow
#

why does the ducky one 2 mini type so fast

sand falcon
#

Let me check if newegg has any sales rn

gloomy snow
#

yeah im gonna check pcpp

sand falcon
#

Does anyone know if I would be allowed to share my promo code?

gloomy snow
#

hows that?

stoic island
#

with 3rd gen?

gloomy snow
#

3600

stoic island
#

your likeliness to have 3rd gen ready bios is low

gloomy snow
#

oh

sand falcon
#

A320 is gonna be rough

stoic island
gloomy snow
#

but its sold out

sand falcon
#

Anyone wanna check an intel build to see if the mobo situation there is any better?

#

newegg has borderlands and civ6 on sale. lol

gloomy snow
#

im not going intel

#

remember im streaming

little leaf
#

@gloomy snow it says it's backordered but it will ship in a few days

gloomy snow
#

where?

little leaf
#

b and h

#

I bought the board 4 days ago shipped today

#

no sorry 3 days ago

gloomy snow
#

when is it coming?

#

i need my pc built by next weekend

#

1 week

sand falcon
#

Any of these parts might take longer than that, just fyi. There has been some raiding on shipping

little leaf
#

It will be here tommorow

sand falcon
#

Not much, but we've got some people here that could have been affected

gloomy snow
#

ohh

#

finding a motherboard sucks

stoic island
#

yes

sand falcon
#

Right now it does. It's usually easy

gloomy snow
#

and i cant keep the current one becase its intel, and im hwid banned on so many games

sand falcon
#

Wait, why are you banned?

#

anyway though, $95 motherboard with built in wifi, in stock and ready to ship

gloomy snow
#

OMGG YES

#

YESSSSS

sand falcon
#

If that works, you will want to buy it asap

gloomy snow
#

watch it be out of stock right when im about to buy

sand falcon
#

That's why you buy this one as soon as we check that it will work

gloomy snow
#

okay

#

whats the chances of it being in stock tomorrow

sand falcon
#

Maybe 5%?

gloomy snow
#

oh shite

sand falcon
#

Yeah

gloomy snow
#

im praying

sand falcon
#

I would just get the mobo now

gloomy snow
#

i cant

#

@sand falcon

#

i have to transfer the money to my dads card

#

and im not with him

#

thats why tomorrow i see him

#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

lyric thistle
#

F\

sand falcon
#

F

exotic marten
#

Seasonic or nothing

lyric thistle
#

nothing

exotic marten
#

Rip

lyric thistle
#

I too like nothing powered computers

exotic marten
#

I prefer mac

#

Run on air

sand falcon
#

This is fact

arctic jungle
#

@sand falcon just saw this abt, remembered our disscusion earlier

viral ore
#

tecc tip

buoyant flame
#

Tehc tihp

open gazelle
#

All my fans are at default now. What's a recommended set of values i should be using? Full speed? Default? Custom?

stoic island
#

Mess with it until you get what you want :D

#

Tune your own fan curve until you like it

normal brook
#

😮

#

@stoic island, how did you get your own user group? xD

little osprey
#

Magic

stoic island
#

my own what

normal brook
#

Your name is purple now.

stoic island
#

yes

#

its mein now

normal brook
#

You're in the "Legend" user group.

#

I suppose I am a "Regular" now.

stoic island
#

I'm still 5000 messages away from #5...

normal brook
#

Oh, is that how it works?

stoic island
#

JPCheese is the closest to joining me

normal brook
#

Ohhhh.

stoic island
#

hes 6 levels off\

#

without any other roles

normal brook
#

I was wondering how that worked.

#

When did they add the user groups?

little osprey
#

More roles than a bakery

normal brook
#

I wanna be labeled as a "Techie"

#

None of these randomly added roles.

#

Actually TBH, I would rather be Newegg Staff. xD

#

I wish they hired for my position as a work at home position.

coarse coral
#

chopstick's abusing mod

celest horizon
#

What else is new

stoic island
#

I want to be working for wegg too

little leaf
#

I want more roles

normal brook
#

So it was Chopsticks doing then eh?

little leaf
#

I'm so close to gold

stoic island
#

Looks like my dram calculator profile worked

#

Time to test

#

If this works I'm gonna keep it this

normal brook
#

I will be honest, I don't like when a Discord "server" has a ton of "roles" that are pointless. I am a part of an pilot "server" that does this and it's just hard to tell who's who.

#

The Techie roll made sense.

stoic island
#

Roles are fun tho

celest horizon
#

Personally I think we should follow the classic Diablo/ every other video game since's item rarity scale

normal brook
#

But it makes the rolls pointless. You can hardly tell who's who.

stoic island
#

It's not too excessive here, gotta space people out :p

#

Tho maybe a bit too many roles

normal brook
#

It's excessive.

celest horizon
#

Grey - rookie
green -regular
blue - regular+
purple - you get the idea

stoic island
#

Like lvl 3, lvl 15, lvl 40 could be better

normal brook
#

People just coming in looking for help will be less likely to know who's who.

celest horizon
#

Ya, I noticed that a bit - I think we'll still make a few more changes

lyric thistle
#

pimk :D

stoic island
#

3 for pic sending, 15 for they've been around, and 40 for talkative people

normal brook
#

Vs, the old way, someone coming in could see people who got Techie status know what they're talking about.

celest horizon
#

We just added the new colors a few days ago

stoic island
#

We should :0

#

Hey forks how long should I run large fft

celest horizon
#

Idk, I don't use that to test memory

stoic island
#

Gonna let it sit for like half an hour, good nuff?

celest horizon
stoic island
#

They don't specify

#

I read them this time

celest horizon
#

Depends how much memory you have and how long it takes for a full-coverage test

coarse coral
#

lets delete all roles

celest horizon
#

I'd use memtest HCI

coarse coral
stoic island
#

32gb

lyric thistle
#

can still see techie role and mods/staff easily

#

ah yes

celest horizon
#

memtest86 is still a classic

lyric thistle
#

delete all rol

stoic island
#

Yea

#

Memtest86 boots from usb tho

#

And I'd like to have bios on usb

#

Memtest86 took about 20min when I was doing it a while back, so 30min on p95 should work.

celest horizon
#

Buy more usb's

#

Or get one of those fancy ones with built-in multiboot

#

Or just create multiple boot options in one usb with software

normal brook
#

For memtest it makes sense to take longer, since you're testing the whole memory array. Vs Prime95, you just need to heat up the CPU to operating temp and run enough through it to claim stability.

sand falcon
#

As per Linus video earlier, when it was made intel did still have a very slight advantage at the very top of the line, but those few fps are going to cost you a couple hundred bucks. Also, the zen2 refresh is slated to turn that around

normal brook
#

I don't think Intel can do anything about it either unless they've been saving their 10nm manufacturing process for this exact moment.

latent storm
#

does anyone know of any decent b450 motherboards that are actually in stock rn

#

wait the strix b450f gaming is in stock, anything wrong with that board?

cinder jay
#

it has strix and gaming in its name and f for fast

#

so its perfect

latent storm
#

thank you

fallen atlas
#

Hey can someone help me troubleshoot a build?