I just uploaded a picture to build pics and that PC won't even run
#building-and-recc-chat
past umbra
dapper ivy
if i were to go pre built i was thinking Acer predator
sly light
That's a lot
frank merlin
Hey guys. Should I go with the 3 standard fans with the "Fractal Design Define 7" case, or add 1 or 2 now and not have to worry about it later? Think all 3 fans are either 120 or 140mm. 2 front 1 rear.
I often do run AC during summer... so an extra fan or 2?
*do not run AC
true comet
Hey chat quick question for anyone whos willing to listen
I have a 1660ti, i5-9600k, 2x 4g G.Skill Ripjaws and a case in spare parts. Would anyone mind helping with the rest? (building a functioning PC)
Not looking for anything crazy as this is truly just to make use of old parts. But I do have $300 right no I could use toward it
wary geode
More ram
Ssd
Hard drive
Maybe a better cooler
80+ gold psu
That would be under 200 I think
true comet
So I do not know to much (but I am getting there)
Motherboard
PSU
SSD
RAM
Those are adds correct?
wary geode
Oh yeah I thought u had one lol
Yeah
If u have the budget get a better stock cooler
Not better stock cooler a better cooler
true comet
lol, I know that - I am asking for recommendations (perhaps Pcpartpickers)
as to specifics (compatible) hardware with the existing components
stoic island
Can you put what you already have in a pcpp list?
true comet
Yes, just a momeent
The Hitachi is from and old PC I could use (but assuming its crap because that machine was)
silk estuary
Anyone know what controller i need to control the rgb of the nzxt x63
waxen finch
Wait so I OC my i7 7700k to 4.9ghz 1.27V and somehow it has a worse performance then when it was at 4.8Ghz 1.265V on userbench??
I mean 1.265V ^^
torn token
Does anyone wanna help me build a PC...real quick I just need a bit of help..looking for something $400 - $600 range. If you can help me (with websites and all) put together a PC, that would be nice. Thank you. DM me
sudden turret
open brook
quick question im back lol um is it possible to play a game on a new product monitor from msi called Optix G241VC but at the same time dont turn on vsync gsync or free sync reason behind this question is that my desktop compareed to my laptop the desktop has a huge heat sink on the cpu and the asus gtx 980 ti strix has 3 fans but i dont think its compatible with gsync vsync or freesync
or should i get a monitor while at the same time get a 1660 ti to enable free sync this is my 2015 build blew a compressor air to take the dust out its brand new again --- PC Specs:
GPU - ASUS STRIX GEFORCE® GTX 980 Ti
Motherboard - Asus Z170 PRO GAMING
CPU - Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1151
CPU Fan - Cooler Master: Hyper TX3 EVO
Ram Memory - Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR4-2400 x2 16GB
Main (operating system )SSD - Intel® SSD 540s Series 480GB
Operating System - Windows 10 Pro
Power Supply - Thermaltake SMART 730 W
Mechanical Storage - Western Digital WD Green WD20EARX 2TB
SSD - SanDisk SSD PLUS 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State ---- and my last question will a 1660 ti even be able to game in a 2015 pc build or should i just turn of all sync and get the monnitor since it has super cooling and wont stutter at 1080p gaming
latent storm
@true comet
i added a 550w psu and 512gb ssd, i don’t know much about intel boards tbh so i didn’t bother with the motherboard but left ~$110 for it
waxen finch
On cinebench it says my i7 7700k @ 4.9ghz 1.27V gets a 947cb is that bad???
latent storm
probably not
waxen finch
Are u sure???
celest horizon
R15? bit low, but within reason
I assume it's delidded? 4.9 on 1.27 vcore is great
sullen spoke
@open brook ya if it's g sync compatible, it should work with a 900 series gpu
waxen finch
should i put some more voltage?
sullen spoke
oh wait
celest horizon
What are load temps like? Check out the pins in #overclocking btw
IIRC 900 series nvidia can't do g-sync compatible
sullen spoke
yeah i read wrong
waxen finch
Load temps are at 7p-73
celest horizon
I only learned that a few months ago from Bekora I think
sullen spoke
work with g sync, not g sync compatible
celest horizon
R15 isn't a great overall stability test
It's a very weak load - I can run 5.2 on a 9900k r15, but it's not stable for much else
sullen spoke
@open brook my b only g sync work with 900 series, it would work if you got 1660 ti if you wanted
open brook
not ghost i think the monitor is amd free sync is it possible to play 1080p with a gtx 980 ti strix asus with out any type of sync on since its not compatible
celest horizon
Of course - it'll work without any syncing
waxen finch
What should I used??
sullen spoke
yeah you can play on it, just not with g sync compatible turned on
open brook
the cpu has a huge heat sink and the grpahics card has 3 fans so i dont have stutters
sullen spoke
you just won't get adaptive sync
adaptive sync is supposed to reduce screen tearing, so if you can run the game fine it shouldn't bee too much of problem
little leaf
@sullen spoke anyway to stop the fan from hitting something within my psu?
sullen spoke
mm, depends what's hitting it i guess. If it's like a metal inside the cpu then not likely
little leaf
ye but the rma will take longer than 2 weeks
open brook
i just bought a 1400 msi laptop its great has face recognotion for snap camera streaming but i can only buy the monitor for now for a desktop then ill buy the 1660 ti in a month but the monitor is on its way Optix G241VC after the 1660 ti purchase my ddesktop should be ok for 1080p 75hz
slate ice
@raw sorrel 750 watt PSU is overkill.
lost umbra
So have an issue, i put my older gaming rig down to a plex server when I upgraded. However my previous served had onboard video, this newer one doesn't. I have a really old hd 5450 but I am not getting anything on the screen during boot, and my power supply doesn't have an extra 8 pin to run my old 970. Can I install Mint cinnamon headless? Do I need to get another cheapy video card so i can set this up?
slate ice
I'd get a platinum 550-600 over a 750.
tepid basalt
but according to the vrm testing spreadsheet, the b450 strix boards have bad vrm heatsink
consider go with a x570
slate ice
I'd pick the freezer II AIO over the kraken
tepid basalt
but the freezer II doesn't have rgb 
stoic island
freezer 2 ftw
modern shadow
can 2x 16MB bios work as 32MB?
slate ice
@tepid basalt precisely
tepid basalt
freezer 2 sucks
modern shadow
for 4000
tepid basalt
no rgbbb
for 4000
@modern shadow don't worry, amd has said that themselves, it'll work
you just have to be patient
modern shadow
didnt they say only 32MB bios?
Im building a computer soon and I want the part asap
Eyeing the Aorus pro b450 @stoic island
your opinion?
stoic island
its good
stoic island
what is wrong with that
if they're planning on 4000 bios for 16mb I see no reason why not
tepid basalt
which part they say only 32mb?
stoic island
and all 32mb b450 boards do 2x16 afaik
tepid basalt
i don't understand where do you pull that info out of
celest horizon
Better to just have 3 bios chips
<laughs in EVGA
celest horizon
Lot of modern enthusiast boards use two now, some have 3
One of the chips is usually socketed, great feature
Physical bios chip selector switch in the middle there
tepid basalt
that sounds like a high end feature
steady atlas
I have a a320 motherboard with 400w psu but it won’t boot
tepid basalt
raw sorrel
@slate ice wold a mw650 gold from cooler master work
steady atlas
It’s a build I’m doing rn
raw sorrel
I don’t want to go lower than gold
sand knoll
https:// pcpartpicker.com/list/ 2nGrCL Is this a good light gaming/multitasking build? (never built a pc)
sand knoll
That's in there just as a placeholder idk why I left it there
stoic island
everything seems outdated
sand knoll
Didn't realise that :/
stoic island
what's the budget?
sand knoll
$500 tops
sand knoll
That looks nice, thank you!
open brook
is there new graphics cards after rtx coming out in 2021 or they still guna keep the same rtx graphics cards in 2021 wondering if u build a pc or buy a pc should it be in 2020 or 2021
stoic island
theres always new stuff lmao
sacred obsidian
i wouldn't call it out of date. most pc parts are still good enough for at least about 5 years in its performance bracket. you wouldn't call a 2018 car an out of date car
zinc beacon
Im gonna build a compensator lol
stoic island
@sacred obsidian well, last-generation is more the word
sacred obsidian
well yeah but like, right now the 2000 series is last generation right
finite remnant
Hi guys. I want to buy GPU is it necessary to buy with it brace. I want to buy gigabyte 5700 xt
sacred obsidian
you don't need a brace but it may sag depending on how big and heavy the gpu is.
finite remnant
I don't know if it heavy or not
sacred obsidian
but with 2000 series being last generation, I wouldn't drop 200$ on a 3600 when my current 2600 is just fine for modern stuff is what i mean. it will still be good enough for probably the next 3-4 years
and mohammed, you can buy it, install it, and it will be fine, but if it sags then you may want to buy a mount, though in most cases theyre just to keep it looking nice and even
if it sags a lot and is very noticeable you will want to then buy a brace as to much sagging can cause damage to the card
finite remnant
Ok, thanks
stoic island
For a new build.
finite remnant
Yup
sacred obsidian
it can be. when i bought my 2600 it was that for 80 or the 3600 for like 250
safe field
Any AM4 B-chipset motherboards with USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C header?
wet fern
R3 3300x with a 2060 or r5 3600 with a 2060?
chilly belfry
Is a gtx 1650 super and i3-9100 + 16gb 3200mhz a good build ?
wet fern
Yeah a good budget build. But switch the cpu out for something like a r3 3100
sacred obsidian
the r3 3300x and the 3600 will have very similar performance. The diff will be the 3300x is a 4 core and the 3600 is a 6 core. For gaming, either is fine as they will have similar performance levels.
those should be fine together shain
chilly belfry
Ok thanks for the help
sacred obsidian
if you can afford it i would try to get better components but those 2 specific items should work well together.
next glade
Anybody have experience with: Asus x570 Prime Pro motherboard and a Lian li II tower? Specifically for connecting cables? Like the Power, Reset, LED, and also connecting the RGB controller with the RGB connection cables?
chilly belfry
It’s a build for my cousin
little osprey
Well .... i been anxious to build a pc .... budget is $1100 including monitor ... this is what i am thinking of buying .....Amd R5 3600 / 16 g skill ram / gtx 1660 super / Giga B450M / crucial 500gb ssd / nr600 case / 650 watt power / MSI MAG241mvc / and thermal past ... lol I hope i ain’t missing nothing
next glade
@little osprey
You try using pcpartpicker.com to make sure you have everything?
chilly belfry
Windows 10
sacred obsidian
@safe field ive been trying to find one but the closest I can find that I know has the usb 3.2 gen 2 is the asus prime x470 pro mobo. I got it pretty cheap at microcenter but idk if they still have the stock or if you even have one near you
stoic island
lemme check
sacred obsidian
@next glade your motherboard manual should have a diagram that show where all the front IO cables go
little osprey
@little osprey
You try using pcpartpicker.com to make sure you have everything?
@next glade I will check now ... i was doing it on microcenter
midnight basin
Hey guys so I'm building a pc and I don't know if I should go all out and buy a brand new 2000 series or buy a cheap used 2000 series and wait for the 3000 series to upgrade then, what's your guys opinion? I'm using the Ryzen 7 3700x in this build.
sacred obsidian
if you don't have access to the manual the mobo should have the names of each item where they go. The pins should be on the bottom right of the mobo
sacred obsidian
i mean i snagged my prime x470 for 60 but i got it while it was heavily on sale and open boxed 😛
stoic island
usb 3.1 type c is what yall looking for?
sacred obsidian
yeah but he wants it on a b450 board
stoic island
I see some
safe field
I've checked basically all of the good ones at this point and I'm convinced there aren't any
You do?
sacred obsidian
@midnight basin im confused by what you mean, you currently have a 3700x but are trying to get a 2000 series?
safe field
I don't want to use anything like this, mind you: https://www.amazon.com/LINKUP-Internal-Motherboard-Converter-Adapter/dp/B07WG8ZJ41/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=type+c+to+type+a+header&qid=1589945199&sr=8-3
Or, well, I could but
stoic island
I see 15 boards with usb-c on b450
midnight basin
2000 series GPU my bad
safe field
Where?
stoic island
also how tf have I not noticed before that my own damn board has usb c lmao
sacred obsidian
oh yeah go with 2000 series imo. we don't actually know when the 3000 series is going to drop or what the prices are going to be. if you need a gpu now, just grab one now
tbf mr1111 i didnt even know if was a thing til we spent hours trying to research what that port was for on my cousins pc lol
stoic island
lol
sacred obsidian
you found some b450's with em?
safe field
wait so...which boards exactly
stoic island
15
safe field
I don't need all of the ---- what
sacred obsidian
care to share?
midnight basin
Alright thanks ill def get one @sacred obsidian
stoic island
Asrock Fatality B450 gaming-itx/ac
MSI b450 gaming pro carbon ac
Gigabyte B450 Aorus pro wifi
MSI B450 tomahawk/max
Asrock B450/m steel legend
safe field
20pin?
stoic island
yea
safe field
That's 20 pins?
stoic island
I can find it
sacred obsidian
yeah im googling those boards and they do not have them lol
viral ore
its technically 20-1
stoic island
lmao thats a nope
stoic island
no b450 boards on this sheet has it
viral ore
wait, whats the issue?
stoic island
yea some x470 got them
viral ore
why get x470 tho
stoic island
need me to list them off?
safe field
viral ore
just get x570
stoic island
they're all looking expensive
sacred obsidian
i got x470 cause i got it for 60 lol
stoic island
theres only 2 boards on here that isn't listed as "flagship" or "high end"
sacred obsidian
i think that specific board is aroudn 110 now tho, but i could be wrong
stoic island
Gigabyte x470 aorus gaming 5 wifi
safe field
I'd be lucky if I could find it for $150 
stoic island
and Gigabyte x470 aorus ultra gaming
safe field
You know what, it's fine
I was mostly asking to satisfy my curiosity
and sorta plan a build down the line
few months or so
viral ore
yeah, best to wait
safe field
and also get an expectation for B-chipset boards in general having that header
viral ore
prices are stupid rn
viral ore
b550 will be out by then
viral ore
might be a board or two with one
viral ore
its just the internal header for 3.1 gen 2
so if your case has 3.1 gen2
it will use that cable
stoic island
yea but 3.0
sacred obsidian
if its for later down the line, look at the b550s
oh wait sassy already said that
but its worth a look
viral ore
it just depends on what you need, like that adapter pictured will work fine
sacred obsidian
its usually used for type C ports on the pc case from what i've seen mr1111
stoic island
but why 
sacred obsidian
porque no
viral ore
its to replace the 3.0 header
but cases still come with 3.0 headers
so motherboards will too
and vice versa
atomic oasis
When do you think prices will go down on parts? the MB i've been eyeballing.. 179... to 259... and so on... O.O
viral ore
but some cases have 3.1 gen 2 ports
stoic island
I can't predict the future
viral ore
so they include a cable
stoic island
anyways sassy seen the new season reveal yet?
viral ore
tbh, the only good reason to use usb 3.0 or more is for flash drives
sacred obsidian
im pretty sure cases having usb c ports is relatively new, so i would assume that now that more cases are coming out with em, that most future boards will start including them unless they are a super low budget board
stoic island
rear io
viral ore
so, usb is dying
safe field
you forgot the other good reason
plugging everything in for the sake of completeness
sacred obsidian
lmao
viral ore
everything else will be thunderbolt soon, and usb 2.0 will reign supreme for peripherals
stoic island
thunderspy :D
viral ore
that is a good reason
stoic island
hope we dont get another
safe field
Okay so
sacred obsidian
i would be furious if my case had a type c port that was unusable
stoic island
that affects newer generations
safe field
I have this build planned for a cousin in the NZXT H510
sacred obsidian
i also hate things that look like they should be functional but arent and are only for looks. it annoys the hek outa me
stoic island
I havn't noticed that my mobo has a type c connector
safe field
but it gives me pause to send a gaming PC overseas and the front I/O is only half functional
stoic island
@viral ore your ears will be very annoyed
viral ore
lol
safe field
which is why I really wanted a motherboard with a functional type-C header
stoic island
I dont care about front IO anyways :p
viral ore
i might just forget about it long enough to the point where theres a big seg update, and im like, "wtf is this"
sacred obsidian
so x470, x570, or wait and see if b550s will have em
viral ore
will there be x670?
stoic island
also house got a rework
safe field
Has anyone here had their X570 chipset fan die on them
sacred obsidian
who knows
viral ore
i heard
sacred obsidian
i didnt heard
viral ore
im excited, and sad
sacred obsidian
what are you guys on about
stoic island
they got rid of a bunch of spawnpeaks
viral ore
seg
stoic island
and I was finding spawnpeaks earlier xDDD
upper verge
Hello all
upper verge
So i have some news to share
viral ore
F
atomic oasis
ack 😦
upper verge
Yeah...
stoic island
return or rma?
sacred obsidian
oof
upper verge
I was devastated
Im doing RMA through Newegg. Hope it wont take long.
But atleast its just that cause it powered on fine..
No issues it just wouldnt go to Bios but i know it has to be cause of the CPU
Ram read on a friends PC when he changed it out on his and put it in.
But regardless i just need now the CPU and ill be gold.
sacred obsidian
when you say cpu was bent, what do you mean?
upper verge
The pins
sacred obsidian
like all of the pins were bent?
upper verge
Not all
But when we tried to close it and close the latch it didnt hold the CPU in and it should have cause i know it didnt force it down. Just lightly let it fall into the slot.
Then when i went to left up my case it just fell right out.
After i made sure it was closed.
viral ore
did you close the load lever?
viral ore
so how did you power on the system
upper verge
Well again look ill show i try to turn it on...
viral ore
ok, so it did not power on fine
sacred obsidian
we dont consider it succesfully turned on til you have posted
upper verge
Well when i tried to turn it on... i had ram in and look at this..
sacred obsidian
cause there could still be a million issues between a pc turning on and actually getting to post.
viral ore
if it didnt post, you still have no idea what parts are good or bad
upper verge
viral ore
the motherboard or psu could even be faulty
upper verge
Thats what i got
viral ore
with no cpu installed?
upper verge
No CPU is in...
sacred obsidian
the point is youll need to try to get a cpu replacement or fixed and then try again
viral ore
ok, then of course you will get an error
upper verge
But when i powered it on and had HDMI monitor going nothing came up on screen
viral ore
we know that
sacred obsidian
also i feel I should warn you, keep in mind they may deny your RMA because bent pins are usually considered user error. You can still try but it may happen that way. if that does happen, there are ways to fix a cpu but it can be sketchy and risky
viral ore
oof, didnt even think about that
sacred obsidian
most places will not accept a cpu or mobo return if it has bent pins
i've been succesful in it twice but that was through in person stores
i've never attempted it through an online retailer
sacred obsidian
have you already sent it off?
sacred obsidian
alright well good luck. hope it works out for you. if not, you can look up on youtube how to fix bent pins. you can do it with like a credit card and whatnot but you gotta be super careful cause the pins are extremely fragile. i would not attempt it until/unless they deny your RMA
sacred obsidian
i dont think there are pinout charts for the ryzen series right now sassy
viral ore
check and see which pins are bent, so you can practice bending those back in place first
upper verge
But otherwise im not worrying about it
The worst part is done of the build
Now its just a simple take off the cooler put on the new cpu and new cooler and we SHOULD be gravy
Hopefully
sacred obsidian
good luck!
woven wedge
Is there anything wrong with putting a single stick of ram in a build or is it better to have 2. (Hope this is not a dumb question)
stoic island
2, dual channel
sacred obsidian
you can put one stick in but it will work better and more efficiently if you use 2.
zealous epoch
Gigabyte B450M DS3H (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2/HMDI/DVI/USB 3.1/DDR4/Micro ATX/Motherboard) is this MOBO ok?
latent ridge
so i have two monitors connected but they mirror each other and i dont see the option to fix it
latent ridge
that's the issue. there is no 1 and 2
stoic island
Detect monitors
latent ridge
it doesnt detect anything
ive tried unplugging and restarting then plugging it back in but same thing happens
monitor just turns on mirrors with no other options
stoic island
@latent ridge in the display settings, there's a button to detect monitors iirc
latent ridge
@stoic island it says didn't detect another display
stoic island
Are both monitors plugged into your GPU?
latent ridge
yes
latent ridge
not two of the same monitors
both monitors are connected to the graphics card
the new one is by display port and the other is by HDMI
both same resolution setting and will come on
however I noticed the second one comes on faster and if I connect it first the other one won't come on but not vice versa
silk estuary
You could make your own and for around the same cost it can be much better
lime forge
^
livid sierra
@little osprey im not an expert but dont do that very bad idea buying a used Pc
hot falcon
@latent ridge check if plugging one to the motherboard works (if you have integrated graphics) also try downloading latest gpu driver, if it’s nvidia download GeForce Experience and get the latest one.
Ohh wait you said they mirror each other? So they both work? Click the windows button on you keyboard and the letter P and click extend
trail belfry
I need to find a good 32gb kit of ddr4 ram (16gb x2) any recommendations?
sullen spoke
if you don't care about rgb this is fine https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?
sullen spoke
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KPBQn7 @cloud plank 's build
sullen spoke
im not very good with builds but you can get this ssd for cheaper and same space https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp34-512gb/p/N82E16820331308
cloud plank
i’d rather pay the extra like $20 or so bucks for something that is “name” brand and is slightly faster
viral ore
I disagree
Get the mp34
It's not about the brand, it's about what's on the pcb
And the components on the mp34 are of the same quality
No need to overpay for samsung
@cloud plank
stoic island
near garden
@stoic island can I get a list for 800$?
cloud plank
i would try, but i’m not the greatest and i can’t send links yet
near garden
Thanks
stoic island
You're welcome
1000$ Nvidia, higher quality on other parts, not fully focused on GPU
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K3LVXv
near garden
Oh
stoic island
I'd change that ram out
I've had trouble with that set of ram
The motherboard is out of stock.
Asus tuf b450 pro is a good motherboard.
near garden
Yeah I was thinking of that but someone told me I should go with the asrock steel legend
So what should I go with
stoic island
I have no idea why it has a good reputation
I was suggested it when I first started
near garden
I’m just going to do it switch it to the Asus tuf gaming pro
stoic island
lmao pro has doubled the max supported ram
steel legend has a relatively bad sound card
pro has a good sound card
near garden
I want this motherboard but I’m on a budget lol
Gigabyte B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard
stoic island
eh its out of stock now
oh yea just a suggestion, disable best buy in your pcpp preferences
pcpp doesn't work well with best buy's stock
it'll show stuff as in stock even though they're not
near garden
Oh yeah I see it now
stoic island
alright
near garden
Damm last time I checked on Newegg the msi b450 gaming pro carbon was just 150$
now it’s 273$
stoic island
@near garden pro carbon max is 160$
near garden
On what ?
wary geode
So what’s sad about my build is that I built a 250$ build and gives around 5-20 FPS less than my 700$ pc wth
Dang I need a new gpu
fast dust
That is so sad
That’s probably what my most recent build will be like
My build has 1600 AF + RX 570 and that one has i7-860 + RX 570
woven wedge
I am looking to put a rx570 I my dads build
Looks like a good price to performance card.
fast dust
It still definitely is
But if you could get a little more money... GTX 1650 super is very very good for the price too
coral prairie
Does anyone know how to make windows 10 installer on a usb on a Mac
I can’t figure it out
sullen spoke
you should be able to using bootcamp
idk if it changed with updates but in bootcamp there was an option to create a windows 10 install disk, if you don't know already bootcamp assistant is a app built in all macs
only check the box to make install disk, don't partition disk and install windows on the mac if you don't want to
woven wedge
It’s in a tight budget @fast dust. We were going to use a 1050 we already have to save money but the 570 is a bit better performance
And he won’t be doing very heavy gaming
compact hill
The 570 is pretty marginally better
buoyant aurora
Omfg, i have been here for over a year and never seen this chat lol
This is where I should have been
modern shadow
But imma gonna wait for aorus pro b450 to be back in stock
buoyant aurora
Good idea, don't settle for Rona lol
buoyant aurora
I am looking to get a wifi board even though I don't need it, just because it may come in handy
buoyant aurora
Yeah, I could use help finding a Mobo as well
modern shadow
budget?
buoyant aurora
Doesn't really matter, but preferably below $250
modern shadow
k
buoyant aurora
I wanna get RGB as well and wifi and Bluetooth, but that may be overkill for the price
buoyant aurora
Yeah, might as well
buoyant aurora
3950x
modern shadow
ohhh
buoyant aurora
Yeah
buoyant aurora
Neither do I haha, that's why I am lost 😬
gloomy violet
I had a prebuilt but I relaxed the mobo and went from intel to amd, ever since that I’ve had problems with windows, would reinstalling the os and all drivers solve this?
buoyant aurora
I had a prebuilt but I relaxed the mobo and went from intel to amd, ever since that I’ve had problems with windows, would reinstalling the os and all drivers solve this?
@gloomy violet yeah, I would recommend that if you're using the same drives and same installation of windows. It's usually advised to reinstall Windows when pairing a drive with a new systembuild
buoyant aurora
Oh yeah, for sure haha. i am doing 64GB DDR4 3600 CL16 and a 3950x, it would be stupid for me to not have money for the board haha
buoyant aurora
oh no, I am gonna be building in like 4+ months I am guessing haha
Just wanna have a rough goal for funds
latent storm
should i wait for b550
buoyant aurora
hey guys, can you help me build my PCPP list?
stoic island
I'll make it more AMD >:D
modest kraken
i have a asus b450 prime plus and ryzen 5 3600 do i need a bios update so will i need a different cpu
sullen spoke
mr1 can find a way to make it even more amd
sullen spoke
i have a asus b450 prime plus and ryzen 5 3600 do i need a bios update so will i need a different cpu
@modest kraken only if you bought the b450 before 3rd gen bios came out
if you bought it recently then most likely it should work out of the box
stoic island
the new boards got new bios
stoic island
yes
buoyant aurora
I built one list, but I wanna see what somebody else would make me
buoyant aurora
doesn't matter, but try not to go overkill haha
Goal is a 3950x and an RTX 2060KO
stoic island
doesn't matter?
buoyant aurora
and 64 GB RAM
doesn't matter?
@stoic island It does, but I have no hard limits right now
stoic island
if it doesnt matter this is default xD
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/sqpnLk
eh alright
buoyant aurora
Remember, I am a kid, I need to be able to afford it lol
sacred obsidian
i love how that build has a wopping 20$ in savings
buoyant aurora
lmao, yeah haha
buoyant aurora
I am a professional photographer. I have made $520 in the last 6 days
sacred obsidian
okay
buoyant aurora
and I already have another $200
and I am doing senior portraits and stuff for a steal of a price haha
sacred obsidian
so you're currently at 720 total?
buoyant aurora
Yeah, but I am gonna save for months
sacred obsidian
okay do you have a monitor and peripherals already?
buoyant aurora
Right now is just seeing what a 3950x, 2060KO, and 64 GB RAm would look like in cost
Yes, I have 3 monitors that suck a good keyboard, and good mouse
sacred obsidian
how do they suck
buoyant aurora
On eis a 2013 32 in samsung smart TV with reaction time so bad that if you move the mouse, things that are standing still blur. The one on my right is an old 24" tube LCD, and the left is a 19 inch 900p 2008 HP display lol
They are trash. I am gonna focus on monitors lator
After all, This is not a gaming rig
sacred obsidian
okay so you want a 3950x and a 2060KO
and i assume youll want it for both doing image editing and gaming?
buoyant aurora
I am gonna have 2060KO X2 for insane blender rendering
Its a render rig. I am working on a large project with some people
sacred obsidian
okay
buoyant aurora
I need that rtx titan beating render performance haha
which 2X 2060KO's can easily do
buoyant aurora
OK, that is actually not bad at all!
I have some edits I will do
just for my use case
sacred obsidian
actually thats better than what I was doing lol
sacred obsidian
I would probably go for one of those older style cases with the big HDD rack tho so you can have a ton of HDD storage as well. Thats just me tho 🤷♂️
buoyant aurora
This is my proposition
Oh, my current PC is gonna be a net sever
and I dropped the GPU to save cost for now
That was the cooler I wanted, I wanted more M.2, and that was about it
I do dig that the 3950x runs way cooler than the 3900x haha
I could get away with a 212 Evo haha. because the 212 evo beats the included 3900x cooler, and the 3950x runs 10C cooler on average
that would be minimum though haha
I don't wanna do that
sacred obsidian
keep in mind that prices and specs you're going to want will likely change by the time you get to building if its going to be a few months though
theres a lot that will probably come out soon
buoyant aurora
keep in mind that prices and specs you're going to want will likely change by the time you get to building if its going to be a few months though
@sacred obsidian Oh yeah, chances are I will build when ryzen 4000 and RTX 3000 come out. I just wanted a rough estimate
My 1080 is enough for now
I would say that build wouldbe likkeeee.... $1100-$1200 ish
stoic island
fair nuff
buoyant aurora
which is a loooot less than I expected
Thats accounting for rona tax dropping. I could possibly save even more from micro, but I am not gonna bank on that
That is one hell of a mean system haha
Would you consider that a top 1% CPU?
sacred obsidian
if you can get to micro def go there. they have cheaper prices and when they dont you can price match the other big retailers
buoyant aurora
I wanna build this PC to last for yearsss
buoyant aurora
if you can get to micro def go there. they have cheaper prices and when they dont you can price match the other big retailers
@sacred obsidian Yeah, they saved me 100's off my current PC. I live kinda close to one
stoic island
top 1% of new builds, you gotta go 3950x or TR
buoyant aurora
Yeah, fair
celest horizon
buoyant aurora
Its just to last me for a longggg time before I have to save for life and stuff
I am gonna use the PC to make me money and that money will be saved for when I am an adult
It will be a massive help for our project
For you guys
I do a lot of fluid sims and the such
So I need that amazing CPU for baking and an RTX 2060KO for rendering like lightning haha
Here you can see the 2080 performance. The 2060 KO performs like the 2080
so add 2 and boom, faster than titan RTX
blender has 97% GPU pairing efficiency
chrome gale
Alright thanks scyth
buoyant aurora
of course, so whats up?
chrome gale
So I was just using the websites build my own computer option and I wasnt sure if using that would ensure all the parts I order works together
buoyant aurora
I may be a bit busy, i am swapping render engines in blender haha
ah, ok, lets see it
chrome gale
Oh i see, and no worries your fine
chrome gale
Is that a website?
pastel briar
yes it is
chrome gale
Alright, thanks. Ill go check it out
buoyant aurora
Sounds good, post your build here and we can edit it as we see fit
chrome gale
Alright sounds good thanks btw
buoyant aurora
of course
little osprey
what is the best computer I can get for 300 dollars or so
chrome gale
So here is about what I am thinking of getting
Ah, i am missing the perms to add pictures.
Alright so i am thinking of using:
buoyant aurora
you can send the link to your build
potent prairie
@swift fractal Is that gpu vertically mounted?
buoyant aurora
Here is Ohios build
First thing. I would say no 9900k
The rest looks good, just not the 9900k
well, why do you want a 9900k @chrome gale
chrome gale
Well preferably i would like this computer to last a bit of time
buoyant aurora
what do you plan to do on it?
chrome gale
Mostly CAD, matlab, a few other work related things on it
buoyant aurora
oh, then you need good multi core?
chrome gale
Sure, what do you recomend?
buoyant aurora
if that is the case you wanna go with a 3900x, its way stronger and less expensive
here, i will show some comparisons
chrome gale
Overall i would like it to be fast with good proformance. Thats all.
buoyant aurora
You can see here @chrome gale
The 3900x is wayyyy stronger based off of the final score, almost 2x a sstrong
The 9900k has 8 cores, the 3900x has 12
and its less expensive
chrome gale
Oh alright
buoyant aurora
Thats Why I wanted to know what tou wanted haha
so, whats your price range?
because there are even stronger CPU's that get to like god teir haha
chrome gale
It seems i cant add it
chrome gale
Alright ill take a look.
waxen finch
Is there a fix to where my settings on AMD tuning software keeps resetting every time I turn off my pc?? I have an rx5700xt
buoyant aurora
iiii... do not know of a way, i am sorry
chrome gale
Alright just changed the intel processor to a AMD 3900X 3.8GHz 12 core
And mother board to a MSI MPG x570
buoyant aurora
Ok, that sounds like it should be fine
chrome gale
Alright, thanks scyth
buoyant aurora
send to me in DM
chrome gale
I really appriciate it
waxen finch
Dang... it’s really frustrating constantly loading the profile every time I turn off my pc
buoyant aurora
I really appriciate it
@chrome gale No problem
make sure to get feedback from more people ^^
thorn copper
New to pc building and I was wondering what I could get for $800
potent prairie
Think Naed made a $800 list earlier
Nvm, it was Mr1111
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q6JCcq
thorn copper
Is it possible to switch the gpu for an rtx
potent prairie
Yeah
modern shadow
Should I get a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 2700x?
potent prairie
You could go for a 2060, but much more expensive than the 1660
thorn copper
Thats ok as long as I dont go over 1000
chrome gale
@buoyant aurora hey what x570 mother board do you recomend?
potent prairie
Lemmie see what I can do
buoyant aurora
@buoyant aurora hey what x570 mother board do you recomend?
@chrome gale I do not know enough about them right now... Sorryyy
modern shadow
Should I get a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 2700x?
potent prairie
@thorn copper https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HCP6gJ
I cut the secondary hhd to lower the price
modern shadow
Hello, Should I get a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 2700x?
potent prairie
Not really educated on the 1st and 2nd gen amd lineup, I'd ask a teckie
next kestrel
for what tho? prob 3600 for gaming
thorn copper
Is it possible to put an 8gb instead of a 6
potent prairie
Very. Just buy the 2060S for $100 more
fast dust
Deserted I made a build for you in #graphics-cards
potent prairie
potent prairie
Lol
This is a modified one I stole from mr1111
fast dust
Makes sense with the SSD choice
potent prairie
Yeah, I mean it's pretty much what I'd make
Except I'd do some bargin hunting on ebay
fast dust
👍
thorn copper
So I should look on ebay for better prices
potent prairie
Yeah, I'd go used on anything you can to save money, but be aware there some price jacking going on with corona
potent prairie
For the gpu, brand doesn't matter super much, just go with the cheapest you can find
I mean I like ROG and EVGA, but no point spending a ton extra for a different brand
Ram I would stick to reputable companies... G-Skill, Corsair, HyperX, etc... Make sure you get non-buffered ram
PSU, be guided by https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/
Or if you have the dough you can go all new, but I just like looking for bargins 🙂
stoic island
well um
I made this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2BBmp8
kept more storage just bc
everything else is basically the same
only noticeable difference between the board in the list you sent and this list is this one makes the red warning go away :P @potent prairie
and the only other real difference is I went for 256gb+2tb, for more mass storage uses
potent prairie
Well mine had a larger m34 :P
Lol
stoic island
but you can go 512gb and easily buy a 50$ drive down the line
so both works
I was going to get a 512gb and a 2tb
but I spent it on everything else in the list
deep skiff
i love watching new b450 boards being in builds every day cause the market is wack
stoic island
IKR
And budget
I've been putting tuf pro in higher budget builds
a few days ago it was aorus pro wifi
a few days before that was b450m tuf pro
it goes all over
deep skiff
like it went from the tuf pro to the aorus to that with strix and carbon pro sometimes
stoic island
well carbon pro is for wifi
wifi boards are just like gone
and carbon pro is a great board
deep skiff
yuh
stoic island
I got one
deep skiff
its just pricey
potent prairie
Me too (high five)
stoic island
(high fives back)
B450 pro carbon tho
I just noticed from earlier today (and 12am today) that my board has USB-C and ARGB ports :O
It's got everything
deep skiff
okay dont need to flex here
stoic island
no but like
its surprising how little b450 boards have argb
ppl here all got x570
I just have higher end b450
potent prairie
And I'm here on team blue
deep skiff
lower end b450 gang
potent prairie
With a z390
stoic island
lemme just count how many b450 boards got argb
potent prairie
B/c I make bad decisions before actually doing research 🙂
stoic island
18
eh
it's surprising like B450 pro 4
a lower end board
got it
Aorus pro wifi and pro carbon got it
but Tuf pro doesn't have it
:(
deep skiff
cheapest z490 itx board is 200 rip
deep skiff
yeah mine sucks who thought gold was a cool color
deep skiff
3
stoic island
fantastic
sand knoll
https:// pcpartpicker.com/list/rBjjQq Any problems with this build list?
stoic island
low budget
dreamy dragon
Anyone know a cheap(er) method for bringing down my gpu temps(rx 580) and i have a gamemax expedition case (no front fan mounts)
deep skiff
downclock/undervolt and put a more aggressive fan curve
vital rover
My bad. Anyways @magic steeple, with that limit I think you said 1500$, you should really just research for a little bit and look at the prices of parts. Don’t pay too much attention to the case, like how it looks. But definitely just try and pick what’s best(that you could afford)
upper verge
Hey all
stoic island
ye
haughty jasper
@spare swallow what cpu cooler u got?
buoyant flame
You around? @stoic island
stoic island
ye
buoyant flame
Wanna help me with a ram timings question?
stoic island
?
buoyant flame
I was trying to set my ram to 16 18 18 38 instead of the stock 18 22 22 42 but in my bios there's 5 different latency inputs
dense reef
Where should I ask for help on troubleshooting?
buoyant flame
Do I just put 18 in for my third 4th option aswell? @stoic island
Here is fine@dense reef
celest horizon
Yes, but it'd be best to show the leftmost column in the screenshot.
celest horizon
Ya, 22 is fine
buoyant flame
Does this look fine to you?@celest horizon
celest horizon
Ya
buoyant flame
Ok thx ill give it a shot
celest horizon
What are your specs?
buoyant flame
R5 3600, 32gb trident z neo (cl18) and 1060
celest horizon
trcdrd/trcdwr are locked together in some configs - and will only show as one setting.
(on most boards)
celest horizon
Did you increase the dram voltage? What's your soc voltage? Do you know what IC is in those sticks?
buoyant flame
Stuck in a boot loop rn
ic meaning?
And no I didn't increase voltage, its at 1.35 I believe
celest horizon
samsung b-die, hynix cjr, micron rev.e etc
celest horizon
TL;DR - going from cl18 to cl16 and lowering timings as well isn't a 100% guarantee
if it was, they would've sold those sticks at a higher bin
buoyant flame
I assumed it wasn't, just wanted to give it a shot
celest horizon
I'd read through this https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md
buoyant flame
Will do
celest horizon
Might be as simple as setting voltage to 1.4, 1.45 or manually setting a soc voltage of 1.1v or something.
Different IC's have different characteristics, that guide will explain better than I can.
buoyant flame
Ok thx for the info
I'm going to set it back to stock and read that article lol
I now realize that when I set timints manually I didnt disable d.o.c.p.
Should I have done that?
dense reef
So I have the blue screen of death and I was wondering if I could get some help. @celest horizon when your done, I can wait
celest horizon
Shouldn't really matter - any manually set values should override XMP/DOCP's auto values
Post the blue screen
tepid basalt
you don't have the error code?
dense reef
I have the stop code
celest horizon
celest horizon
Probably just some broken driver that loads on startup. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/solved-kmode-exception-not-handle-bsod/2deb7630-3e96-4366-9c8d-c071e44bf5aa
dense reef
@celest horizon its says it is pretty much only usefully if I can get into my pc, it just takes me to recovery mode
celest horizon
Will it boot in safe mode?
tepid basalt
is 1.35V the common safe gate when oc ram?
safe field
Isn't there a humongous RAM OC guide on /r/overclocking
stoic island
I don't read manuals
tepid basalt
I'm reading the guide forks sent
celest horizon
Depends on the type of ram. 1.5 volts is pretty safe on b-die, less so on other sticks.
dense reef
@celest horizon Nothing else I can do other then doing an image reset?
celest horizon
Could create a bootable windows repair usb on another computer and use that to fix it.
dense reef
How do I do that?
dense reef
What will the bootable repair pretty much do?
hasty python
tepid basalt
just reinstall your windows
potent prairie
Well, I had to go from this...
To this
Because direction matters in the CPU block :/
frozen salmon
U guys are lucky 😔
potent prairie
Still getting bad temps under load tho
little leaf
Thermal past applied correctly?
potent prairie
Pre-applied, so yeah
open brook
is the ryzen 5 3600 able to game and stream at the same time with 0 dropped frames on a 1660 gtx ti gpu? nvenc version 2 encoding 1080p 60 fps 6000 bit rate
sullen spoke
there will always be a least a little frame drop, but with nvenc encoder it is very little
nova summit
Found this on my psu what is this for?
next tangle
my pc keeps blue screening
i just started taking the codes down
right now was FAULTY_HARDWARE_CORRUPTED_PAGE
a few days ago it was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
fair rivet
Hey, I've just got a new case and I'm transferring my internals over to it but I'm going to apply fresh thermal paste before doing so. I don't have IPA or rubbing alcohol. What's the alternative I can use to clean it off?
sudden turret
papertowel
fair rivet
Yeah that'll smear it about nicely but I'd like to actually clean it properly too
acoustic crest
i use cloths like you would to clean your glass, i just dont re use them haha
sudden turret
you can clean it fine, it'll just take a little more detail with a reg dry papertowel
pastel briar
@nova summit that would typically be a connector for a floppy drive
@next tangle I would suggest trying to following
-
On your keyboard, press the Windows logo key and R at the same time, then type mdsched.exe
-
Click Restart now and check for problems (recommended). Your PC will restart immediately
-
Open command prompt (Win + R) and type CMD
-
Type sfc /scannow && dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth and press the Enter key
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run windows update (and update any other drivers like GPU drivers)
-
Test to see if issue is resolved
cursive wharf
@pastel briar just a note for helping those in need for that sfc command, tell them to do this: sfc /scannow && dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth instead
so that you also run the dism one too
pastel briar
fixed 😄 , never needed to run the others but I can see the use in them
@cursive wharf I guess with windows 10 they changed a bit?
cursive wharf
I dont know all too much about it. sfc fixes some files and dism fixes others. Dont remember the exact specifics of what it is
pastel briar
ah I see, fair enough
raw sorrel
Does anyone know if the x53 from nzxt can cool a 3700x
celest horizon
If you're going to run both, run dism first
It might take multiple sfc scannow runs
modern shadow
Last two parts YEET
upper fable
Was curious to know where people get nice cable extensions for their PCs, I need a new CPU power cable or extension because the one that comes from my PSU isn't long enough for me to route on the backside of my case
safe field
does anybody know if I can get a PCIe x1 card that has a USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C header on it
not a port, a header
little osprey
AORUS GANG
modern shadow
RISE UP 
fast dust
@upper fable cablemod
upper fable
Thanks I will take a look
gloomy violet
hey i had a prebuilt but switched the mobo and went from intel to amd and ive had problems with windows ever since, would reinstalling windows and dirvers for the new mobo fix it? Windows would go into automatic repair when updated
sick marlin
Were they proprietary parts in that prebuilt?
gloomy violet
no theey cam from the oem
sick marlin
It's possible that a reinstall on windows would help, but first make sure that the RAM and nothing in there is actually proprietary
fair rivet
My CPU fans seem to make a clipping sound on boot up but there is 100% nothing catching the fans in regards to cables and the obvious stuff. I know for sure it's the CPU fans. Any ideas how to fix? They have been cleaned out of dust with compressed air as well.
These fans are top mounted above a water cooling radiator
The video is of the noise it's making
fast dust
Is it just on boot up?
sick marlin
Wowee that's obnoxious
stoic island
think the fan is clipping something
thats what it sounds like
look for cables in the way
fair rivet
Well I've just swapped all my parts over to a new case. When it was in the old case it didn't "often" do it on boot up but usually under heavy load. Now it does it in the new case every time I boot up
@stoic island if you read the message I wrote you'll see that I said I know it's 100% not clipping any cables. It will make that noise for a few seconds on boot up and then stop when it gets to the windows login page
stoic island
unplug the fan you think is making the noise and see if theres any noise
make sure its one fan
and just look at it for any irregularities
fair rivet
Just to be clear, this is a CPU fan I'm having the issue with so this isn't going to cause any problems is it towards the CPU. I'm guessing only if it's unplugged for a vast amount of time
stoic island
I'm not asking you to run the CPU without the fan for a long time, as long as you have a heatsink on it, it should be able to dissipate the heat of being idle temporarily
bronze python
If there's nothing clipping it it's probably a bunk fan
fair rivet
I unplugged the one I thought it to be and turned it on. There was no longer a noise being made
So I'm guessing the fan is screwed
I've got the case fan in the old case I just took everything from. Would it be fine if I just swapped it out for that one?
sick marlin
Oh yeah that's totally fine
A fan is a fan, as long as the connector is good you'll all set
fast dust
Actually CPU fans and case fans are a little different from one another
A case fan will work as a CPU viler, just not as well
fair rivet
Well i would like to replace them both anyway so is there any recomendations you can give me for replacement CPU fans to go on the radiator? the current ones are cooler master branded but dont know the specific model of the water cooler without digging the box out not that it makes a vast difference i guess
The current ones are 120mm
sullen spoke
vivid flint
Trying to update this bios is gonna be the death of me
woven crypt
What's the issue @vivid flint
vivid flint
Ill go to use the instant flash tool and itll detect the flash drive, show the update, not allow me to accept and then change to a "no image file detected" error
woven crypt
When you say that you cannot accept, is the option greyed out?
vivid flint
theres no option at all its just a window showing the update file
I can dm you a video if itd help you better understand what I mean
next tangle
My room gets up to high temperatures and my gpu and cpu temps are high
Can i take off the side panel?
Will it give me better temps?
next tangle
tempered glass
vivid flint
depending on how your room does with dust, and how you have your pc placed near any sort of carpet or other things youd most likely be fine taking the side panel off
tempered glass side panels look cool but generally aren't good for temps
next tangle
yeah i have my pc on the desk and off the carpet