#building-and-recc-chat

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viral wren
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i did try it

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it is a new one

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my ram is 8 GB and my psu is 500w

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hello there

sacred obsidian
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go into your bios and look for a selection that says something like "Auto detect GPU" and make sure its not set to onboard only

viral wren
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ok i will tell you if it worked

sacred obsidian
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alright

cold sorrel
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I've nearly talked myself into going ahead and buying those fans I like. Even if I might not buy the rest of my parts right now

humble rivet
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Are they rgb?

viral wren
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hello I am back on the graphics card but I am with no drivers installed

humble rivet
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GeForce experience

viral wren
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what do I donow

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do now

humble rivet
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Download it

viral wren
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it will not work

humble rivet
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Oh that sucks gl

viral wren
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that was my problem

meager relic
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Hey Malek, if you have a live version of lunux

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Linux*

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You can get the drivers installed safely by Linux for your pc

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Again, use "live" version

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Not the installed version

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You can get a live version for free, and use it on a thumb drive, SD card, external hd

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Even a CD or a cellphone

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I think the cellphone has to be rooted or jailbreak first.

lime forge
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i have a 275r, exact same case but the front panel is solid plastic

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i love mine, it looks great

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on the airflow model the airflow will be great

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i like my 275r because it has the glass side panel, vertical gpu mount, psu cover, and rubber grommets for cables

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only complaint is that the back does not have much room for cable management

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but lets be real here, thats not that much of an issue. once everything is said and done, you probably wont open the back up again for awhile

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one sec

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those pictures are my build

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i have a 275r, youre looking at getting the 275r Airflow which is exactly the same basically

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uhhhhhh

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if i were you, id get an SSD

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hard drives are... slow...

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oh

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i didnt see one in the list

cursive wharf
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@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t2t7n7
changes made:
-CPU: Same thing but cheaper
-mobo: better sound chip, more M2 slots
-RAM: same thing but cheaper
-SSD: Has a better cache setup
-GPU: Is better
-case: saved money with cheaper case
-PSU: TT Smart series is literally a fire hazard. Never get it.

vivid coral
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Can I put a ryzen 7 in this

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Ryzen 3700 8core

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Making sure

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Because originally I was going to put a ryzen 5 in it

celest horizon
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Yes. I think iambox has one

vivid coral
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Ok r
Thx

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Ok thx#

stoic island
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you can

cobalt prism
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@cursive wharf What do you mean when you say has a better cache setup?

silk estuary
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@lime forge what are the specs 👀

cursive wharf
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SSDs have a cache, mainly useful for writing to the SSD

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Cheap SSDs like the A400 have no DRAM cache

cobalt prism
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what would be a preferable one

cursive wharf
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Which lowers lifespan, general perf, and majorly kills write perf when full

lime forge
silk estuary
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gracias~

cursive wharf
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Depends on location you live and SATA vs NVMe

silk estuary
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Can that setup take an ssd zack?

verbal valve
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Can a GIGAYBYTE AORUS Radeon RX 5700XT fit in the NZXT H1?

icy plume
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It should as far as I know, but you certainly check with folks more seasoned than me.

frosty hinge
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Could anyone assist me in building a budget PC?

stoic island
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Go ahead

little osprey
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@frosty hinge sure what's ur budget

frosty hinge
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Like $700-$730 for PC + Monitor

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I’m not expecting top of line bc that’s ridiculous with that price range but I just want to play games at good frames and be able to stream since I am a streamer

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And the ability to upgrade layer on would be very nice

little osprey
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Gochq

little osprey
stoic island
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Interesting choices

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Why not 1600af?

frosty hinge
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That’s insane pricing. Thank you @nah

vagrant garnet
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@little osprey did u already buy that?

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Oh

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Ur not the one buying it lol

little osprey
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@stoic island he wanted it to be more upgradeable plus I couldn't find the 1600af xd

vagrant garnet
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Oof

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It's a but above

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Bit

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@frosty hinge are u able to go up to like 850

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Its a huge upgrade from the other one

little osprey
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@vagrant garnet I don't think 500gb of storage is good enough for a streamer

vagrant garnet
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What

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Why would you say that?

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If you do YouTube and make videos I'd agree with you, but with streaming it directly goes on the internet, not on ur storage device unless u enable that

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@little osprey

little osprey
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Well in most cases anyways, 500gb usually isn't enough

cursive wharf
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@little osprey No 1600af? Where is the link to that mobo with that deal? That memory is overpriced for 3000 CL16. SN550 lacks DRAM cache. CXM has coil whine issues

cursive wharf
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Also, streaming and RX570?

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So used, if used why not used GPU too?

little osprey
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Its used? Didn't even notice lol

cursive wharf
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Lots of fun details are kinda hidden away

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@vagrant garnet now for your roast
-best to provide link to 1600af
-mobo is sucky for price
-can get RAM a bit cheaper
-SSD is in the NVMe prices
-GPU is overpriced by a lot
-case is meh

little osprey
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I see you roast everyone

vagrant garnet
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Roast lol

little osprey
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He had that copied and was ready to paste lol

vagrant garnet
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Here's your link

cursive wharf
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add to your favourites

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it helps

vagrant garnet
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I'm good

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That one's $99

little osprey
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Ur link poo poo

cursive wharf
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the amazon link that is at the top is literally $85

vagrant garnet
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Cheaper link worse ig

little osprey
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No

vagrant garnet
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For some reason it's not showing the amazon for me

little osprey
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Same I only see newegg

cursive wharf
little osprey
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I'm on mobile 🤷

vagrant garnet
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Click buy

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Where does that take you

little osprey
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No where because it never works

vagrant garnet
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Exactly

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Alright

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Next

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What is wrong with the mx500?

cursive wharf
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The price

vagrant garnet
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It's got 5 year warranty, has dram, nice controller, and has good speed

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What would u change it to? L5 lite 3d?

vagrant garnet
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How's the warranty on silicon power ssds?

cursive wharf
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not many SSDs die slightly later on unless from a random brand

vagrant garnet
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what about the ram, where are u finding decent ram for cheaper

cursive wharf
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about $5 less for the same, or the same price for a better binned die (same speeds tho)

vagrant garnet
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Yeah, where, what one

vagrant garnet
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Eek red ram

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Also it's not the best to buy separate kits of RAM and pair em together

cursive wharf
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oh no, small red accents on the side of RAM that's real hard to see
I'd complain if it was red heatsink, but it isnt, so meh

vagrant garnet
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Sometimes they don't want to work

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I've had it happen

cursive wharf
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where they the exact same model (note: not talking about Corsair LPX vs Corsair LPX, im talking about exactly down to the model #)?

warped moat
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Quick parts list I whipped up

vagrant garnet
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Yes, same model

cursive wharf
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I'd switch mobo over to Asus TUF Pro cuz 2 PCIe M2 slots and better sound chip

little osprey
cursive wharf
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also NVMe priced SATA SSD

warped moat
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MoRe MoNeY tHo

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I’m not very good with ssds

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That’s the only part I was iffy on

vagrant garnet
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@little osprey what for?

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Also those aorus cards don't have the best coolingg

little osprey
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Have you seen the size of the heatsink

vagrant garnet
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Have u seen how small the blades are on the middle fan

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Doesn't do it much good

little osprey
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Anyway its for streaming, video editing, and gaming

vagrant garnet
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They super flimsy

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1440p gaming?

little osprey
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No 480p

vagrant garnet
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K

little osprey
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Yes 1440

warped moat
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You don’t need a blazing fast ssd like that

vagrant garnet
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Are u streaming off CPU or gpu

little osprey
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Hei is typing up a burn list

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Cpu

cursive wharf
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-What's the need for such a high priced mobo?
-That's like b-die priced RAM but not b-die
-2tb NVMe SSD would suite more people then 1TB of faster seq r/w
-GPU kinda overpriced. I mean 2080S as a whole is overpriced. About 7% - 9% faster then 2070S for $200 more
-Poor 750w PSU choice. If one were needing a 750w PSU, the PC would have an HEDT CPU or dual GPU. PSU price should be proportional to PC price. Get the better voltage ripple/regulation, transient response, multi rail, etc
-can get same amount of RGB fans for half the price

little osprey
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Yep

cursive wharf
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actually pretty sure you can get close to 3950x + 2080Ti with that money can you not?

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if not focusing on looks at least

vagrant garnet
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You could but honestly would be a waste

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Just cut down the cost in the PC a bit

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I currently wouldn't buy the 3950x cuz of stuff possibly coming out in like 6 months or so

cursive wharf
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Missing mostly the niche features that can be useful for some. Specific stuff on the mobo or gen4 SSD

vagrant garnet
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How's the ram clearance with that cooler?

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I've never seen the scythe Mugen in action

cursive wharf
vagrant garnet
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Holy tall ram

cursive wharf
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yeah basically

tepid basalt
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looks like this kit is on par with the corsair pro vengeance rgb

viral wren
dry breach
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something similar happened to me but i wasn't getting any sound at all, i ended up reinstalling windows. when i looked it up i saw people would delete the driver and scan for hardware changes or find the driver online. just be careful and make sure its the official site

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does anyone know a good and cheap(ish) case with a drive bay? please @ me if so

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dont really care about rgb just functionality

tepid basalt
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well

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any el cheapo case out there has a drive bay

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more expensive case tends to remove them because it impedes air flow

shut rampart
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My Front usb isn’t working

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And I don’t know why

sudden turret
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was is working previously.

shut rampart
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Yes

sudden turret
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what are you trying to plug in?

shut rampart
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Mouse keyboard headset

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Yesterday it was working

sudden turret
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do you have a usb you can pop in it?

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er

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thumbdrive*

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see if it reads

shut rampart
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I have a thumb drive

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But the montherbord usb can read it

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The case can’t

sudden turret
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what do you mean?

shut rampart
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So it’s something about the case

sudden turret
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have you done any maintenance to it lately? could be loose wire

shut rampart
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No but I can check

sudden turret
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check the big 2.0 usb header

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or is it 3.0

shut rampart
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The blue one?

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The top one

sudden turret
shut rampart
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Ok

sudden turret
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that one should be for the top usb

shut rampart
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How can I remove it out

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And plug it back in

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I’m scare if I do it wrong then it’s going to break

sudden turret
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send a picture of your mobo

shut rampart
sudden turret
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but it looks like its in good.

shut rampart
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Yup but How do I remove it

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Oh

sudden turret
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next thing would be to check that same wire, but on the usb ports

shut rampart
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Ok

sudden turret
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what mobo is that?

shut rampart
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The two to the usb is that

sudden turret
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only thing I can think of is just wiggling the other end, that is attached to the mobo to make sure it is in all the way

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if not you could just have a faulty i/o

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if it was working fine, and then not.

shut rampart
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I think I have a faulty I/o

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It’s fine tho since I can switch to the montherbord usbs

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And connect that to a usb hub

cold sorrel
woeful agate
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can ayone config a 2500 usd pc that has a 2080 ti and a 7 3700x or 9 3900x (any cpu is fine)

modern shadow
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I'll do my best, dude.

deep skiff
modern shadow
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may I suggest: a ROG strix instead?

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@deep skiff

sullen spoke
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only issue is that strix often if not always has the ROG tax

spice inlet
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Hey I got 260$ to get a graphics card and RAM what are my best options

tranquil dust
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gt 710 tbh ong tbh

sudden turret
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200 gpu and 60 for ram

modern shadow
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get a rx580 or a gtx 1050 ti

stoic island
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You can get a 1650 super at that price

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and then get a kit of like ripjaw v 3600cl16

spice inlet
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Thx for all the help

next kestrel
stoic island
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not really

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maybe go with an a320 mobo

next kestrel
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would a320 mobos work with a 3200g

stoic island
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if bios is updated yess

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that psu is iffy

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Might be the one that considered potentially dangerous

lean nova
stoic island
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why

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I have a bulkier air cooler

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and I love it

lean nova
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It blocks the last RAM slot

stoic island
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it doesn't if you move the fan

lean nova
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maybe put the fan on the other side?

stoic island
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You can do that

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thats what I do

gilded fog
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Is the Asus tuf b450 pro gaming compatible with the amd ryzen 3 3200g?

stoic island
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yes

gilded fog
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So I don’t have to bios updated it

stoic island
gilded fog
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Thanks

stoic island
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yw

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it's a great board.

gilded fog
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Yeah that’s what I have been told. I was gonna buy the Asus tuf or the msi tomahawk

stoic island
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I'd rather take the b450 tuf pro

gilded fog
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Ok

stoic island
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tomahawk does have good VRMs, thats why reddit loves it so much, but it lacks on sound chip and is also usually like 20$ more

gilded fog
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Yeah

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And the tuf looks better

stoic island
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fair

lean nova
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That 2 coolers?

stoic island
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?

lean nova
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looks like 2 fans and coolers

stoic island
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thats dual tower dual fan

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oops

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wrong screenshot

lean nova
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ahhhh haven't even seen that before lol

stoic island
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It's pretty common with high end air coolers

vagrant garnet
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drp4 is sexy

modern shadow
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yeah, expensive though

stoic island
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d15 chromax tho

silk estuary
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Is a ryzen 9 3900x any good?

stoic island
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Yes

foggy hazel
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if you need what it offers, yes [edit: offers]

little osprey
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b450 tomahawk

tepid basalt
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thomashaus

stoic island
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Max

tepid basalt
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MAX

stoic island
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Unify

wide sparrow
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In my d-15 I only use one fan

stoic island
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Theres also a d15s

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made for single fan

tepid basalt
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any suggestion for a good wifi card?

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should I use usb or pcie connector?

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my knowledge about this component is really close to zero

wispy matrix
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2k budget usd any suggestions

tepid basalt
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i9 9900k + 2080s

viral ore
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@wispy matrix what for

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what will the system be doing?

wispy matrix
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Gaming And streaming and editing

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Amd

viral ore
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on a 2000 dollar budget you can get a 2080 super and a 3900x

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thats ideal

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the 2080ti is too much more for not enough gains in performance

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its 300 dollars more for 4 extra cores to jump to the 3950x, and i dont think you can afford that on such a budget

wispy matrix
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Use pcpartpicker pls

tepid basalt
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u can try to pick it yourself

wispy matrix
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I got to 1.7k

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Nvm I got it

viral ore
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srry i drunk

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maybe tomorrow

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unless u already got help

cyan beacon
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Hello everyone im new here and im looking to build a new pc with a ryzen 7 3800x but not ssure what motherboard to go with because im not trying to spend a ton of money on it. but i keep seeing a msi b450 max will work just fine outta box but then i also see stuff saying it wont can someone give me an idea here or help point me in the right direction?

viral ore
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b450 will work

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most will, it just depends on the board

cyan beacon
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well i just want a board that will work with it right out the box instead of having to deal with updating the bios but would the MSI tomahawk max work with it out the box?

viral ore
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for msi, the boards labeled "max" have the bios preupdated

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its basically identical to the tomahawk

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but comes with updated bios

cyan beacon
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okay. so 3800x will work with it thats awesoome i thank you so much i just could not figure it out

viral ore
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np

cursive wharf
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It's been 9 months with 3000 series release. 99% chance that any b450 board works because they're updated at factory

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only way it wont be is if from old stock. But then you can either return it or ask AMD to send a free upgrade CPU for you to borrow

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Also why 3800x and not 3700x? That's a solid price jump for minimal perf. That money can be spent else where

tranquil dust
warped moat
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Replace the tomahawk with the Asus tuf b450 gaming pro

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Also if your max budget is 1000 you could go for a 2060

jagged ember
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Could get a smaller boot drive imo

warped moat
jagged ember
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If I'm not mistaken AMD drivers are still a bit on the oof side though

warped moat
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They fixed a lot of the problems people were having with the recent driver updates

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I have a 5700xt and it fixed a lot of the problems I was having

jagged ember
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Oh nice that's good to hear

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Personally I'd shrink the SSD boot drive down to like 256 or 250GB

tranquil dust
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it's also a first time build for someone

jagged ember
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Since that's just gonna hold your OS and your most used software

tranquil dust
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i did 500 so you can also put a few games

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and allows space for updates for said games and things

jagged ember
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ah that's fair

tranquil dust
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ye

jagged ember
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also damn that 3600 ram

cursive wharf
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@warped moat iirc that SATA SSD is at NVMe prices

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Also that case doesn't seem to great airflow

warped moat
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I just left the case there

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As for ssd we’ll if you could help them out and recommend one that’d be great

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Preferably one that gets them closer to 1k

latent storm
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question

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this is in the spec list for the mobo i’m getting, does that mean i can’t use the 3600mhz ram i picked out?

foggy hazel
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@latent storm its the TUF B450 Pro Gaming ?

latent storm
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B450M pro gaming

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idk if that’s any different

foggy hazel
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the following is from the memory QVL for that board

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just like just about everything else that has to do with PC's, details matter

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so, depending on cpu, ram. Yes, you can run it at 3600

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the above section if from the top pdf here:

latent storm
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i’m using a ryzen 5 3600 and a g.skill ripjaws V 2x8gb 3600 kit

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alright i matched the part numbers and decided on the uhh trident z rgb 16gb

foggy hazel
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@sacred chasm what monitor model is that? it looks to have a really nice uniform border

modern shadow
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Rate pls

foggy hazel
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as a minimum, change the PSU

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the cxm is not a good psu

modern shadow
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What should I get?

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I need on with 2 8pins for the gpu

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@foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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if that budget is okay, get the AMP

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this is the unit you are looking for

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stock is just jumping all over the place thou

modern shadow
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Should I get the 650w version instead? It costs around the same, and the rx5700 xt suggests 600w of power

foggy hazel
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you can if you absolutely wants to, but the 550 is more than enough

modern shadow
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Okay, its power draw is 225w

foggy hazel
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keep in mind, psu recommendations have to take into account the VERY big quality difference between models

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the AMP is up there with some of the absolute best

modern shadow
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Okay thx

foggy hazel
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and the CXM is the opposite :)

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also, just fyi, the AMP has a 10 year warranty

sacred chasm
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@foggy hazel its the Dell - S2719DGF 27" LED QHD FreeSync Monitor

foggy hazel
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thank you :)

silk estuary
cursive wharf
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Reasons for things I changed. last I checked you were just gaming so 32gb RAM is unneeded. 9700k is overpriced. CPU cooler is overpriced. Budget 2tb SSD for a high price. GPU sucks for budget. case has bad airflow. 750w PSU is undeeded and a waste of money. Get a better and lower wattage PSU instead. Windows can be gotten for cheaper. Better monitor can be gotten

silk estuary
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@cursive wharf then what do i get instead

cursive wharf
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I gave a list for that

silk estuary
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Oh

versed apex
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What is the lowest amount of ram that is needed really for gaming

lyric thistle
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2GB for Windows XP era, 8GB now

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:)

versed apex
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I'm on Windows 10 lol

lyric thistle
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2x4GB for cheapest, 1x8 & 1x4GB for middle, and 2x8 for higher

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my computer has 1x8 1x4

versed apex
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Ok

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I am disabled and on fixed amount check why I ask

lyric thistle
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but make sure you take advantage of both memory channels, so one stick per channel at least

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performs a little better, especially on AMD

versed apex
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I have 4 channels on my board

lyric thistle
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4 memory sockets?

versed apex
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Yeah my bad

lyric thistle
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:)

versed apex
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I was in the hospital for 3 years and when I got out neighbor gave me a old desktop

lyric thistle
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ah

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that's pretty nice

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what kind of specs does it have?

versed apex
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It's like 13 years old but I put a graphics card in it lol

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And a ssd

lyric thistle
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nice

versed apex
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3 gb of ram for now so it don't run that good

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2×1 gb 2×512 MB of ram sticks lol

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Garbage

lyric thistle
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hehe

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is it DDR2 or DDR3?

versed apex
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Think they are ddr2? I need to check

lyric thistle
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I have a couple of 2GB DDR2 sticks, so there's some hope there when it comes to amount

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DDR2 seems to be pretty cheap on the used market in my region at least

versed apex
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I only had little bit of $ so I put GeForce gt 710 gddr5 2gb and 250 GB ssd low grade but oh well I guess

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I don't get much $

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Cpu is 2.80 ghz

lyric thistle
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it's low spec but it's somethin 👀

true comet
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Hey chat quick question for anyone that can help - Below is a screen shot of current specs ---- I believe I need a better CPU and would like to ask for recommendations if anyone could help 🙂

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This thought is based on the lack of fps when streaming and playing fortnite

lyric thistle
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better suited for older games of course...you might be able to find a cheap Dell Optiplex or HP Compaq Elite computer, they're good systems, more recent than what you have, and they sell for cheap sometimes

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Ryzen 5 1600AF is 85 USD

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are you using integrated graphics @true comet ?

true comet
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Yes

lyric thistle
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ah

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how many RAM sticks do you have?

true comet
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How would I check this? (sorry not to savy in this field)

lyric thistle
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look for screws on the right-hand side panel, so opposite from this picture

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unscrew them, again, opposite panel from this picture

true comet
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@grand spindle ^

versed apex
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Lol

lyric thistle
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then slide the panel off, and take a look at your components

versed apex
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@lyric thistleyou want to see the funny old hard drive I swapped with lol it's bad

lyric thistle
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ooo

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yes

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look for these kinds of slots, they have tabs on either end

versed apex
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You will be like damn that's old

true comet
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Hey @lyric thistle im in a call with @grand spindle its his computer

lyric thistle
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these slots will have sticks in them

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ah ok

true comet
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Hes asking for a part list from the seller right now

grand spindle
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getting a part list right now

lyric thistle
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ah nice

versed apex
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Lol

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Look at the date

lyric thistle
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nicee

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I forget how old the hard drives are in my old computer

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it has one 60GB and one 160GB I think

versed apex
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I replaced it with the 250 GB ssd and a 1 tb hdd

grand spindle
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OS- Windows 10 Pro 64Bit with License Key
Motherboard- GigaByte B450 Aorus M MicroAtx
CPU- Ryzen 3 2200G 4Core 4Thread 3.5Ghz
CPU Cooler- AMD Wraith Spire Cooler
Memory- Patriot 8gB (2x4gB) Viper DDR4 3200
SSD- Silicon Power 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 SSD
HDD- Seagate ST1000LM024 1tB Sata III HDD
Video- MSI RX 580 ARMOR OC 8gB PCIe (Dedicated)
Power Supply- Cooler Master Elite V3 500W ATX
Case- MasterBox Lite 3.1 Micro ATX
Case Fans- 2x 120mm Fans Front
Case Fans- 1x 120mm Fans Rear
Internet- 1gB Wired Ethernet
Internet- Netgear WNDA3100v3 N600 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter

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@lyric thistle does this help?

lyric thistle
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seems like decent specs

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is this a list you plan to buy or a list of components in a computer you already have?

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or a mixture?

grand spindle
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this is in my computer right now

lyric thistle
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ah

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can you take a picture of your RAM slots, with the memory as it is installed?

grand spindle
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im looking to comfortably stream and play while having a three monitor setup

lyric thistle
#

ah

grand spindle
#

i have to take that back panel off correct?

lyric thistle
#

just want to make sure they're in the right slots to take advantage of dual channel memory 👀

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yeah

versed apex
#

Might not have enough ram if you are doing all that?

stoic island
#

Better everything can work xD

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maybe buy another set of 2x4 ram..? or swap for 2x8

lyric thistle
#

^

stoic island
#

lemme see how many slots on that mATX board

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some only have 2

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looks like 4

grand spindle
#

Hey just grabbing the pictures

cursive wharf
#

@silk estuary Take a look at the top and front of the case. Ventilation is barely there. The front is very closed off with no proper vents and the top has no vents. The only normally ventilated spot is the back, which just relying on the back isnt that good

lyric thistle
#

what size case is it?

cursive wharf
#

mid tower, Cooler Master MasterBox Pro 5 RGB

grand spindle
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i cant send the pictures here for some reason

stoic island
#

You're not high enough level

buoyant flame
#

Because your not lvl 3 yet

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Just for the record @stoic island I said that first but my wifi took 30 minutes to send it😂

stoic island
#

damn lol

buoyant flame
#

Lol

true comet
#

@lyric thistle can i send you the pics of his computer?

lyric thistle
#

sure

#

looks like they're in the right slots for dual channel, I think

grand spindle
#

going forward any reccomendations on upgrades?

true comet
#

most impactful upgrade sfor the spend ^

lyric thistle
#

I would personally go for a Ryzen 5 1600AF, 6 cores, hyper threaded, and an additional 2x4 of the same RAM kit (or swap the current 2x4 with a 2x8 kit and get 16GB that way)

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the RX 580 might not be the fastest GPU, but for 1080p high settings you should still get good framerates

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I'm not entirely sure if a framerate issue would be caused by the Ryzen 3 and 2x4 kit though, that's just the upgrade path I would take from there personally

grand spindle
#

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked 65W Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler (YD1600BBAFBOX)

stoic island
#

yes

lyric thistle
#

it's a compelling CPU and I want it but I don't need a new one 👀

grand spindle
#

haha

lyric thistle
#

it's such a good price

blissful nymph
#

Hey guys. Need help. I have a 500gb nvme installed. Does it matter what sata port i use for an ssd and hdd? Thanks

buoyant flame
#

Depends but you should be fine if you use the 1st and 2nd sata ports. Usually if a port is disabled from a m.2 drive its one of the last ones

blissful nymph
#

Thanks @buoyant flame 👍🏼👍🏼

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Just built my first pc today

buoyant flame
#

Nice welcome to the master race 😉

blissful nymph
#

I already got a prebuilt almost 2yrs now. Just wanna start building my own

buoyant flame
#

Ok nice 👌

little osprey
#

I want a pc around 1100

native niche
#

Has anyone done a build in the Fractal design meshify c if so what was it like

buoyant flame
#

I haven't but it is a very good case

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Just about everything you could want

modern shadow
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Its a good one overall

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recommended for all applications

native niche
#

Thanks

teal bison
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@little osprey cool

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Do you have any specifications or a desired use case? Or do you just want any pc that costs $1100?

little osprey
#

Meshify c (something compact) R5 3600 /2070super

buoyant flame
#

@little osprey

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Here's a start

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Mobo is good but its sold out rn. Comes back in stock often tho

latent storm
#

what are the chances someone could find me an atx mobo with two m.2 slots on b450 that’s ryzen 3000 ready

buoyant flame
#

Boom

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@latent storm

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Did you want the mobo or the chances I could find a mobo

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Because the chances are 100% 😉

warped moat
#

@native niche I have the meshify c. It was pretty easy to build in

latent storm
#

thank you @buoyant flame

raw matrix
#

should I even bother with m.2 ssd's right now? I've got 2 SSD's as it is.

onyx oxide
#

Don’t know if anyone is on but can someone help me with a build that won’t post?

compact hill
#

Does your mobo have a readout?

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Sounds obvious but it happens

onyx oxide
#

figured out i need a graphics card so yeah

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found this if anyone has opinions

icy plume
#

oh wait

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nvm

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it says not working, didn't see that :/

onyx oxide
#

i just saw that

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thanks though

icy plume
#

yeah i looked and i was like hey

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i'll look out for something mate

onyx oxide
#

youre awesome regardless

raw matrix
#

so on aliexpress I started building a custom water cooling kit and got stumped on the fittings. but it's currently at $556 w/o fittings or fans

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that's including shipping lol

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taking advice I suppose

viral ore
#

for $550 you can get a full blown EK loop

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why are you paying 550 for chineseium

#

why different rad thicknesses

#

get two 60mm, shouldnt they fit in the 011D XL?

steady mica
#

What are the differences between these Trident Neo Memory sticks? Which one would I want to go with for a Taichi x570 and 3700x combo?

icy plume
#

what sticks?

little osprey
#

b450 tomahawk

raw matrix
#

@viral ore build me a loop on the ek configurator? 😂

little osprey
#

Is the cooler that comes with the r5 ok

latent bronze
#

They are fine if you are not overclocking

little osprey
#

So an AIO isn’t needed

latent bronze
#

Remember the non X comes with a wraith stealth

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Personally i find that AIO's are more for looks than anything

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when i play something demanding the max temp it hits is 49c

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@little osprey What board are you planning on using and do you plan on overclocking

little osprey
#

b450 max

latent bronze
#

If your case will have good enough air flow and you don't overclock with the Wraith stealth i have seen the max on loads hit 60c

little osprey
foggy hazel
#

@little osprey wrong link

little osprey
latent bronze
foggy hazel
#

@little osprey a bit further down the page, there is a link that looks kinda like what Ecks posted above

little osprey
#

was planning to use my own psu

latent bronze
#

Doing 1440p gaming?

#

how old is your old PSU and what is it

little osprey
#

CORSAIR TX-M Series TX850M

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couple years old

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mainly 1080

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but would like high fps

latent bronze
#

For 1080p you can get away with getting high fps still with a 2060 Super

little osprey
#

ok

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this is my current ram

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should I just keep

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it

latent bronze
#

Ya that memory is still fine

latent bronze
#

@little osprey for certain parts you might have already would be alright for your newer build

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But also what are you using now

raw matrix
#

trying to figure out how many 90 degree fittings I need so all I have to do is cut the tubing

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I figure there's less error in cutting and using fittings than there is with bending. that and I don't own a heat gun

sudden turret
#

do you already have your build?

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best thing to do is take a picture of it

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get it on pc, use paint or w/e and draw out your loop

raw matrix
#

fair enough, I'll be building my pc on either tuesday or wednesday. case comes in on tuesday and I told a friend I'd wait for him to get here before I build it

sudden turret
#

nice

raw matrix
#

waiting on usps right now to get my 2080ti

foggy bough
#

guys i found a really good deal a used(open box) rtx 2070 ryzen 7 3800x build but it has only 2 case fans and a cheap b450 board.Should i put 2 more case fans,a noctua cooler on the cpu and a b450 tomahawk in order to get better frames and not overheat?

analog hearth
#

Do you know which board?

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Wait

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Ignore that lmfao

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If you’re not overclocking I actually wouldn’t worry about anything

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Otherwise, I’d personally get a new board

foggy bough
#

im not planning on overclocking but i dont want my components to die sooner because of the heat

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what should i do?

analog hearth
#

hold up I'm looking at that google sheets (I assume you know what I'm talking about lol)

foggy bough
#

ya lol

analog hearth
#

I had to get my laptop for that lmao

foggy bough
#

haha

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so now what do i do,just add 2 case fans?

foggy hazel
#

b450 tomahawk <- didnt you want to get away from the cheap useless board option?

foggy bough
#

it wasnt a useless board but still not the best

foggy hazel
#

tomahawk = useless board for 99% of users

analog hearth
foggy bough
#

bro @analog hearth i have 200 euros to spare

analog hearth
#

oh lmfao you're good then

foggy bough
#

i could just keep them for something more important in life tho

analog hearth
#

yeah lol

foggy hazel
#

point being: what you might consider a cheap b450, could easily be a better board than the tomahawk

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tomahawk is only "good" if you are trying to OC the pants of the cpu

foggy bough
#

i think it was the b450m d3sh

foggy hazel
#

so a decent enough board

foggy bough
#

so i can just keep the mobo?

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and the stock cooler?

foggy hazel
#

aye, considering you are buying a working system, the bios has been updated etc.

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so nothing to worry about there

analog hearth
#

my rule with B450 motherboards: if it can handle the OC (aka has a green checkmark where the CPU is OC'ed), it's a good motherboard to choose, as long as you can update the BIOS

foggy bough
#

well no its not used just touched Once lol

foggy hazel
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re: stock cooler: its okay

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@foggy bough has it booted at least once?

foggy bough
#

nope

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or maybe yes i dont know

foggy hazel
#

why is the person selling then?

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what you are saying dont quite up then

foggy bough
#

actually he might have

foggy hazel
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because for the D3SH it matters in regards to the bios

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the original launch bios doesnt support the 3800x

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the F40 bios does.

foggy bough
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i have a cpu that i never use and is slow af and i can use it to update the bios

analog hearth
#

Tomahawk has the flashback feature ;)

foggy hazel
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fair @foggy bough its just a "detail" that is practical to know about :)

foggy bough
#

so i keep the board and the stock cooler and have 2 case or 3 case fans right?

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with these money i can also afford to buy a 144hz or 1440p monitor

foggy hazel
#

can you give us a full pcpp list of the parts you have right now @foggy bough ?

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it is a bit easier to talk about things when we have that :)

foggy bough
#

wait a sec

foggy hazel
#

no rush :)

foggy bough
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ryzen 7 3800x(stock cooler) rtx 2070 240gb ssd 1tb hdd 2 aerocool case fans and a b450 board(doesnt tell unfortunately)

analog hearth
#

oh I thought you said the mobo is a Tomahawk

foggy bough
#

bruh @analog hearth lol

foggy hazel
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nah, he was talking about potentially upgrading/sidegrading to a tomahawk

analog hearth
#

I just woke up haha

foggy bough
#

@foggy hazel yeah

analog hearth
#

oops

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haha

foggy bough
#

should i keep it like that?

foggy hazel
#

what case do you currently have @foggy bough ?

foggy bough
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he has everything built

foggy hazel
#

you didnt list a case, hence the question :)

foggy bough
#

its a aerocool rgb case

foggy hazel
#

ah, kk

foggy bough
#

not too big but not too small its mid tower

foggy hazel
#

aye aye

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doesnt matter all that much

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in a given case, the recommended minimum case fan amount is 2 fans

foggy bough
#

aight so i just keep it how it is and instead of upgrading specs,get a better monitor?

foggy hazel
#

1 front, 1 back

foggy bough
#

yes

foggy hazel
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ofc, there are exceptions IF the case has silly bad levels of air flow/access

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but, that is something you can fix later

foggy bough
#

if my components overheat what should i do?

foggy hazel
#

add fans

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but why would they overheat?

foggy bough
#

idk lol

foggy hazel
#

that question is about as relevant as this: What would you do if you got hit by a random falling bovine?

foggy bough
#

the rtx 2070 might be a cheap one

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i.would run

foggy hazel
#

after you get hit by a bovine, i doubt you will be running anywhere.

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anyway :)

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re: 2070: there are not really any "cheap" 2070's

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its either a 2070 or it is not

foggy bough
#

if its a one fan cheap build quality rtx 2070 with no.backplate?

foggy hazel
#

backplate = no impact on anything

foggy bough
#

ohhh oki

foggy hazel
#

1 fan cooling solutions = blower style coolers

foggy bough
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

again, they are designed like that

foggy bough
#

thanks for the advice man

foggy hazel
#

they might not be for you, but they are like that on purpose

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you are very welcome :)

foggy bough
#

have a really nice day and get 1000 fps on.all the games you play

foggy hazel
#

same to you

analog hearth
#

may the frames be with you as well

humble rivet
#

What's a bovine

foggy hazel
#

moooooooooooooooooo

humble rivet
#

Oh

cold sorrel
#

Could anyone recommend a 512 GB NVME drive? The one I originally had on my list is sold out and I'm still unsure what brands are good

lyric thistle
#

You can find which ones are deemed good quality as well as the ones deemed trash lol

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For example, WD Green is trash, WD Blue 3D NAND is good

silent cedar
#

#building-and-recc-chat Hey all, I'm a relative noob looking for advice. I've built my last few PCs but my last one was 5 years ago. I want a new gaming computer but I'm not playing anything too crazy. The last few games I played were the Steam versions of Xbox games (Arkham games, Fallout 4, Skyrim, NBA 2k20, Madden19, etc.). My current graphics card is pushed to its limit and gets a little streaky with some of those games. I'm looking for a new gaming PC, I also do audio recording (mostly just podcasting), and light video editing so I like a good processor. I'm fine buying a pre-built this time, I just want to move some of my hard drives over from my current computer. I can't find how many open SATA ports are available on pre-built PC's. Here are my two questions: 1) Any recommendations for pre-built PCs that meet my criteria in the $1,000 range? 2) Any way to tell how many open SATA spots on the motherboard of a pre-built computer? Thanks!

teal bison
#

@silent cedar are you looking specifically for a prebuilt? Like are you fine building your own or do you just want a prebuilt? Also for #2, a lot of prebuilts dont even use the same motherboard for each build, its just whatever they have in stock (probably just whatever was the cheapest for them to buy at the time) so its not really possible unless they tell you what specific motherboard you are getting in the spec list/if you email them or whatever

silent cedar
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@teal bison I'm done doing my own build just figured it didn't really save much money anymore. And what you're saying about manufacturers is what I was afraid of. Looks like I'll be building again

teal bison
#

definatly for the best, and you will be saving some money and getting better value parts. a lot of the prebuilts in that range that i was looking at are using the i5 9400f, and you are definately going to want a r5 3600 or 3700x

silent cedar
#

It sounds like amd is back on its game? I bought their "8 core" cpu in 2015 before the razon and was kind of mocked by others

teal bison
#

yeah amd is definately on top unless you are looking to spend $500 for a few extra fps

silent cedar
#

Any reco on a gpu? I need a dual monitor setup for work. A lot of pre-built gaming pcs are only one video output which seems crazy to me

teal bison
#

well that depends, how heavy are you into your production work? if its pretty light and more of a side hobby, id go with a 3600 and a 5700xt or 2070 super, depending on other choices like if you want rgb or a specific case or stuff like that

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if you go with a 3700x id say the 5700xt or 5700, again depending on other wants/needs

silent cedar
#

I just record and produce a podcast, looking to start a YouTube channel.

foggy hazel
#

you got your own audio stack already?

silent cedar
#

@teal bison So I was looking at this open box PowerSpec, it would be right at my price and the motherboard has 6 SATA spots so I could get all my current drives in there plus the SSD it comes with

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The only question is if the NVIDIA GeForece GTX 1070 TI is a big enough upgrade on video

teal bison
#

maybe im blind but i cant find a price on it

silent cedar
#

Originally 1800, on sale for 1300, open box for 1000 and change

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@foggy hazel I just run an 8 channel mixer into a Focusrite... not very sophisticated but it does the job at the moment

teal bison
#

so 1000

silent cedar
#

Yeah, it seems hard to be for $1000. It is a bigass case with some open slots on the motherboard so I could mod rather than build (that would be my preference). I'm just trying not to get too limited in my ability to customize, but I also want to spend time using it rather than modding it

teal bison
#

its not a great gpu for the total price, looks like a lot of the budget was spent on a custom loop and the case, along with rgb and cablemod kit

silent cedar
#

Hmm, that is a good point and they skimped to an i5 for that price

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I'm moving form a 1050 TI so I'm sure it would feel like a big jump for me, but I don't want to be replacing it in a year or two

teal bison
#

i mean the 9600k is decent, just not as good as what amd is offering

buoyant flame
#

Especially when taking price into consideration

teal bison
#

^

silent cedar
#

Will that GPU not do the job for me or is it just me not getting my moneys worth?

teal bison
#

i mean it will

#

assuming you are doing 1080p 60?

silent cedar
#

CPU is $220, Motherboard is $225, Case is $140, Windows 10 Pro $200, Ram $100, GPU is less than $100... I mean the price on this is basically what it would cost to build it and I could always swap GPUs later. But I guess it is really a matter of convenience and AMD vs. Intel

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Yeah, I just have two Dell SE2417HG (1080 @60hz)

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So I would need to upgrade monitors too if I were going to buy anything much nicer

teal bison
#

wait where is the 1070ti less than 100? id like to get one

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and yes, while that build may be close to 1000, you can build better for cheaper is what im saying

silent cedar
#

*84

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I'm going to use it for work too so whatever I spend can be a write-off, I'm just eager to get something new since I'm going crazy in quarantine not being able to play newer games

teal bison
#

hmm look at that

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although it is a flash sale to be fair

celest horizon
#

That first result is a scam, avoid that store.
(matastore.club)

toxic widget
buoyant flame
#

I was gonna say lol how are they selling that?

silent cedar
#

Alright, I think I'm gonna have to build. I don't think the simplest solutions will get the job done for me. Thank you all so much for your help, especially @teal bison !

teal bison
#

No problem, sorry couldnt find anything that was very great but good luck building

wary geode
#

Can any1 message me links to a cheap bright rgb strip for 4 pin

buoyant flame
#

What kind of board do you have @humble rivet

wary geode
#

I have x470 prime

#

Question should I get lian li 24 pin rgb series one for 20$ or lian li series 2 for 50

raw matrix
#

so that's at $700 right now and that's w/o a pump lol I started with the configurator.

#

I know I could get $50 or so cheaper by going with a cpu block instead of the cpu+mb block

#

and like $40 cheaper by dropping some of the tubes

#

or should I go with one of the $130 ones?

timber trench
cursive wharf
timber trench
#

I am gonna record and stream on some occasions

little osprey
#

I already have my own PSU

cursive wharf
#

What PSU? Some PSUs are worth replacing when you can

#

because poor quality

#

wattage doesnt determine quality btw. Nor does rating

#

Also note that Sunbow has rebrands out there that you dont know what you'll get until you get it. Thus you shouldn't get it as most likely you'll get a bad SSD

little osprey
#

What’s a safer bet for a ssd

lyric thistle
#

If I were me I would go with the WD Blue 3D NAND, 500GB

cursive wharf
#

A80 is about the same price and is NVMe

#

still decent controller and DRAM cache

silent cedar
foggy bough
#

uhm guys to connect to the internet from a dekstop do you need a wifi adapter or smthing?

silent cedar
#

@foggy bough Yeah, I built my desktop and it doesn't have onboard wifi. I just bought a card and plugged it in

#

obviously if you can get a hardline connection that is better than wifi anyway

foggy bough
#

okay

proud galleon
#

im just thinking hypothetically, but is it possible to get 2 gpu's cooled by the kraken g12 in the same case for an eatx build

#

i have a case up with 3 spots for 360mm radiators

wary geode
#

Should I save for the strimer plus rgb or get the old one for 20$

modern shadow
#

What’s the best (cheap and good) rx5700 xt?

proud galleon
#

@modern shadow You'll be fine most ways you swing but they'll really all be in the $380-$420 range.

I personally find https://tinyurl.com/wf8pdan to be a good choice. Has a nice back plate and core clock at 1670 MHz up to 1925. Also right under that $400 mark.

foggy hazel
#

@proud galleon it is recommended that you use non shortended url's

proud galleon
#

Ah, my bad.

foggy hazel
#

makes it more clear what you are linking, without having to potentially risk it :)

marble vortex
#

I need a 144hz 1080p monitor for optimal performance on R6. Any suggestions?

shut spear
#

Can someone help me pick parts for my pc (dm me)

stoic island
#

Whats the requirements

lost crane
#

So you can get some decent 1080p 144hz monitors on amazon for less than 200 if you are on a budget, i personally use an xl2411p from benq

marble vortex
#

cool, thanks yall

onyx oxide
teal bison
#

no but according to the tier list, its potentially dangerous

#

would not recommend

#

but no i have not had any personal experience with it

glad rover
onyx oxide
#

does anyone have any suggestions for a 500w power supply that is reasonably prices and reliable?

#

@glad rover thanks for the link it helped save me from a bad decision

tepid basalt
#

cv550

onyx oxide
#

is it worth the extra $10 for the 650?

tepid basalt
#

yeah I guess?

#

like psu is one of the most resilient thing in your pc

#

a little more and you won't have to fuss about power while upgrading

buoyant flame
#

See if you can also find a phanteks amp in stock somewhere

#

its pretty popular so its often oos

little osprey
#

Anyone got any sites were to buy windows activation keys

buoyant flame
#

ebay

compact hill
#

umm

#

i dunno if i would trust ebay

buoyant flame
#

I mean its like 4 bucks so what do you have to lose

lyric thistle
#

Idunno

#

4 bucks

buoyant flame
#

Stonks

lyric thistle
#

Xd

ancient crown
#

i have q

#

Can a sytem work with only a M.2 SSD for storage?

stoic island
#

Yes

tranquil dust
#

can someone give me a recommendation for a pc with a $900 budget?

ancient crown
#

@stoic island ty

stoic island
#

Yw

warped moat
#

Do y’all think it’s fine if my cpu doesn’t have a cooler on it if I’m just using it to update the bios

tepid basalt
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but why remove the cooler in the first place?

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you just buy it or sth

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?

warped moat
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Cus I bought a b450 board put my Ryzen 3rd gen in it to realize it doesn’t have an updated bios

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So ima take my 1600af from my other build and put it into this board to just update it

tepid basalt
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well it's fine

warped moat
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But I don’t feel like remounting my aio

tepid basalt
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but still

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better safe than sorry

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just put it on

warped moat
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I guess

tepid basalt
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worse than a black out is your cpu shutdown due to overheat

warped moat
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Yea

raw matrix
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I'm getting so anxious to build my pc that it's starting to depress me

covert crypt
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Hi peeps i have a question

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computer was working fine brand new custom built it was working fine for a while then all of a sudden started freezing and then it started to occur more often

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and then when booting the system it wouldnt post

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what could the issue be?

stoic island
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Any other details we should know?

covert crypt
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nope

stoic island
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What happens when you try to boot now?

covert crypt
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when I turn it on I t would t post

stoic island
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So, fans spin or no

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RGB lighting turn on or no

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Any sounds?

empty saffron
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Hello all, I want to build my first own Gaming PC and I cant decide what graphics card I should get. I want to stream and make YT vids and have G. Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM which cost me 200€, and now I only have abt 400€ left for GPU. Are there any suggestions what I should get?

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Or should I take some lower range RAM?

buoyant flame
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2060 super is a solid choice especially because your streaming. If you want to go return your ram because you don't really "need" 32gb, you'd probably have to get non rgb ram. If you did that you could save 100 bucks and get a 2070 super

woeful agate
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hey guy

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s

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does x570 boards support pcie 4.0 only or also 3.0

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on ssds

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thanks

lyric thistle
woeful agate
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lol

sullen spoke
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3.0 devices will work with a x570 board

woeful agate
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i type too fast

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nice thanks

sullen spoke
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np

woeful agate
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Im going with unify

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wait is it good for gaming with 9 3900x

sullen spoke
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x570 boards as well as pcie 4.0 work with a 3900x

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gaming performance difference will be little

woeful agate
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ok

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Im replacing the 3 fans with 3 ll120s so ur gonna see 4 there

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any thoughts?

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anything to change??

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thanks

serene turtle
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that's an empty link @woeful agate

woeful agate
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wait wat

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uhh waitt

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lemme fix it

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now ples answer

little osprey
lyric thistle
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is that your personal computer or a work computer on a network

little osprey
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Personal

lyric thistle
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ah

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was it licensed before, or did you just install Windows?

sullen spoke
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Is this just windows home?

little osprey
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It’s windows pro and yeah it was

lyric thistle
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oof

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did you buy a key from eBay?

little osprey
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Nope or well I’m not sure since my friend helped me setup everything

lyric thistle
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ah

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it's probably the case

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could try and buy another

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I've never bought a Windows key, eBay or otherwise, so I can't advise

little osprey
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Someone told me to buy one of eBay

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That’s what I might do

sullen spoke
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Just find a reliable looking seller

lyric thistle
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^

little osprey
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Ok thanks

lofty harness
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I normally buy my keys from kinguin or cdkeys

modern shadow
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Someone rate this pls https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hypercore/saved/8LDht6
My requirments: falls somewhere between 1000 and 1200
Have a m.2 boot drive
Have a rx5700xt
Ryzen 5 3600
Dont change the cooler and fans
case for around 50 and 70
And thats all! If you have a better build idea, Ping or DM me!

cursive wharf
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@woeful agate before even trying to think about a flagship mobo on a gaming machine, let alone actually getting one, get a flagship GPU. Also Corsair anything but PSUs are overpriced

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AIOs are in general a waste of money. As well as don't need a 750w PSU. Save the money and put it all towards the GPU

woeful agate
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ok

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can you do it then?

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please

lofty harness
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@woeful agate https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LJWHb8
how it is now seems better, Personally no matter what I build I always got with at least 750W. Corsair makes really good power supplies and all the pc Ive built for myself and people have never had any problems. AIOs are not that great when the pump fails on them it will detroy everything so fan cooling is the way to go. 2070 Super is an amazing card no need to get better unless you want to be the type to say you have a 2080 ot 2080 ti

stoic island
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DR4 not DRP4?

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anyways

foggy hazel
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Spending money on something that is not going to give you any benefit seems fairly weird to me. But that might just be me

stoic island
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lemme try to make a 2500cad gaming pc

foggy hazel
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We have been there before

lofty harness
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lol

stoic island
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Side note, pump failure aren't that common I believe

foggy hazel
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I seem to remember posting a 2500 cad build the other day

stoic island
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just from what GN said

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Oh alright, post it if you find it

foggy hazel
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Its like anything else

stoic island
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I'm gonna try to fit in a 2080s

foggy hazel
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Sooner or later stuff will break and/or you will be unlucky

stoic island
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That is true

lyric thistle
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I'd prefer a broken CPU fan over a broken pump

lofty harness
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Ive rarely ever had a pc break, onbly when the part was cheap or someone put it wrong and had to go rebuild for them

stoic island
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Yea

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But broken pump is fairly uncommon

foggy hazel
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My take on aio's is still that as long as you are not trying to oc the pants of a cpu. They are generally a wste of money

lofty harness
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Its really common after a couple years but when it does break it ruins the whole pc

foggy hazel
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Yes, a good aio is good
A good aio is also not cheap

lofty harness
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At least when a fan cooler breaks you can still salvage your pc

stoic island
foggy hazel
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"Its really common after a couple years but when it does break it ruins the whole pc" <- just no

stoic island
foggy hazel
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It isnt anymore common than anything else happening in your rig

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"Ive rarely ever had a pc break, onbly when the part was cheap or someone put it wrong and had to go rebuild for them" <- build more machines, you will see that there is just about no difference

lofty harness
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vjWtUpItk
Ive had many friends and other builders/gamers have pump failures. From all brands corsair, nzxt etc.

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stoic island
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LTT also had a video on why watercooling is good

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GN also has a better testing methodology and they had water cooling come on top pure performance wise

foggy hazel
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By your own logic, those people only had breakage because of cheap parts then

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@stoic island the performance of aio's is not being questioned, its the price to measurable benefit ratio that is

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Because the performance side of things is just simple math

stoic island
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Fair enough. But GN also mentions how little AIOs and other liquid coolers actually fail.

foggy hazel
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Aye, I know

stoic island
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thats at 2100 Cad, leaving you lots of room to change out the case for one with more rgb, or change to x570 if you really want to, and others

foggy hazel
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If you look back, my stance has never been against aio's because of failure rate☺

stoic island
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Ah I see, but I feel the pricing on some are fairly good now

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Especially the evga clc280, performs well and is only about 20$ more than a d15.

foggy hazel
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(I seriously dont understand how some of you can debate things while using the mobile app)

stoic island
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What do you mean?

foggy hazel
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@stoic island I am going to return to this conversation when I am back at a machine

simple stag
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how can i send my pcpartpicker list in here

stoic island
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I see

simple stag
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it wont let me lol

stoic island
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...?

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just.. Post it?

simple stag
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it keeps saying i cant post links from that site lol

stoic island
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what

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lemme just

foggy hazel
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Speed of typing and reference look ups being annoying to do are the main reasons

simple stag
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idk why it wont let me

stoic island
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that is true, but I'm usually pretty rash and only really looks at the tier lists for quality of parts and newegg for prices

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so it's not that hard for me on mobile

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though I'm on pc now.

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@simple stag DM it to me

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Maybe its somehow a restriction of rookie

simple stag
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that must be it

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wont let me post pic even. and i just joined so makes sense

stoic island
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that PSU is interesting

foggy hazel
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Bad psu

simple stag
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how come

foggy hazel
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Overpriced motherboard

stoic island
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yea that PSU is potentially dangerous xD

simple stag
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any recs for those two parts?

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hahaha wait really? why?

foggy hazel
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Because the components are iffy

stoic island
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Gotta take a look for the sources on the exacts

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but thats from the tier list

cursive wharf
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@Krillen#1516 "Personally no matter what I build I always got with at least 750W", what if I told you that you can run a stock 3950x and 2080ti off a good 550w. If you want to OC then 650w. A PC that needs a 750w PC would be HEDT CPU or dual GPU, in which case that RM PSU would be meh quality compared to actually excellent quality PSUs. The PSU cost should be proportional to the PC cost. Things like better voltage regulation/ripple, transient response, efficiency, noise, multi rail, etc is nice to have. Spend the extra money elsewhere, not on a meh 750w PSU.

simple stag
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oh man glad i brought that in here

cursive wharf
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ah, untaggable

little osprey
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Recommendation on where to buy windows activation keys?

simple stag
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that long paragraph confused me haha

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it starts off sounding like he is recommending 750 psu then ends saying dont spend money on PSU spend elsewhere

foggy hazel
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@cursive wharf he left the server

stoic island
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@lofty harness seems taggable to me..?

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o wait

cursive wharf
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nani?

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I guess my heartfelt message wasnt to waste

lyric thistle
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no, gone

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I'm sorry Hei 😔

cursive wharf
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oof

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pinned messages

simple stag
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just saw

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TY

cursive wharf
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dont make me look insane with you deleting them messages

simple stag
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hahahaha