building-and-recc-chat

[compact yoke]

4 Core

[foggy hazel]

aye aye, i have enough :)

give me a moment

well, just on a pure "raw" compute-power level, it is easy enough to negate the MacOs advantage with the hardware that is available now, vs what you have in your work machine

what is your home machine like?

[wispy matrix]

@serene geode you must be rich

[foggy hazel]

cpu/gpu is what i am actually asking about here @compact yoke

[compact yoke]

Windows 10
Intel i5-4670K Quad-Core 3.4GHz
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 780 Ti
I'm not at home so I forget what ram I have

[foggy hazel]

so, old stuff basically

that is close enough

[compact yoke]

Yeah I had it built in 2013

[foggy hazel]

aye aye

the "simple" solution to your overall question is easy, just throw "silly" amounts of computing power at it.

considering what you are currently working with, a fair spec'ed high end machine will behave as IF you had multiple machines

as in, the compute power available now vs your current stuff is that much higher now

[compact yoke]

Yeah of course

[foggy hazel]

so there is not (imo) a need for multiple machines as such

what are your local storage needs like ?

[compact yoke]

So one GPU is enough?

[foggy hazel]

aye, should be plenty

[compact yoke]

Ok

Well I'm looking at a 2TB SSD

[foggy hazel]

vram is the main differentiator for your workload

vram= ram on the gpu

[compact yoke]

Ah alright thank you

[foggy hazel]

also, please note: There are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

[compact yoke]

The reason why I want a second drive is because I've had a drive corrupt on me because of After Effects

[foggy hazel]

aye, a single drive is imo not a smart solution for you

having a "scratch" drive will benefit you a fair deal

[compact yoke]

I had a colleague of mine tell me it would be a good idea to get two drives. One for the local storage and one for the read-write of After Effects

Yeah exactly

[foggy hazel]

aye

and he spoke true on that :)

at work, what is your network like? 10gbit or below?

because i imagine you have a storage server setup

[compact yoke]

Yeah we have a storage server

I'm not exactly sure what the speed is

I'll have to ask

[foggy hazel]

please make a note for that (i am in no hurry to get the answer, it is just practical to know)

you are located in the US right?

[compact yoke]

Canada

[foggy hazel]

okay :)

i am just searching for a particular set of ram for a proposed build for you. give me about 5-10 minutes

[compact yoke]

Thanks!

[foggy hazel]

@compact yoke keep in mind, this is on consumer hardware

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/B4KHp8

and yes, it is on purpose that there isnt a case selected

because that is entirely dependant on what "fits" at your workplace

what i can promise about that build however is that it is quiet.

[compact yoke]

Great! Thank you so much! This is actually cheaper than some of the parts I was looking at!

[foggy hazel]

might i hear about those parts?

[upper condor]

@foggy hazel why not go 4.0?

Bad value?

[foggy hazel]

@upper condor kinda yes, short answer? its complicated

[upper condor]

Mk

[compact yoke]

Well I was looking at the RTX 2080 for example

[foggy hazel]

yes, that one is "technically" a bit faster, but the performance advantage is imo not worth the cost

[compact yoke]

Looking at the kid you built, asides from the Intel Core i9-9900k, those are the only differences

Good to know!

[foggy hazel]

the main "problem" is that adobe is clear as mud about their actual support

"you just need something between X and Y"

that does not really help anyone adobe!

[compact yoke]

Yeah Adobe are a big pain

[foggy hazel]

aye

Davinci loves the 16 core 3950x, this i know.

and yes, the 9900k is again, while doing a limited set of things, technically faster

the moment you start hitting the system with more workloads at the same time ... it is not faster, technically or not technically.

sidenote: something like this could be a nice case for it https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/y6K2FT/fractal-design-define-7-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-def7a-09

and yes, it is on purpose that there isnt a window, because there is no need for stuff like that

[compact yoke]

Yeah I don't care for windows anyways

It does seem to have good ventilation

[foggy hazel]

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-7/black/

[compact yoke]

Unlike our servers, the PC won't be in a cooled area

[foggy hazel]

here you can see the different colours it comes in

and just to get the details out of the way

the reason for that specific mainboard is that i have build multiple systems with that one

and a number of them have been with 128 gig ram installed

and that is the reason for that specific ram kit too [edit: ram]

i know it works in that board

[compact yoke]

Hey the more ram available, the better

[foggy hazel]

on the consumer side of things, that is the limit

we move into pro-sumer/HEDT if you want/need more ram than that.

[compact yoke]

No no 128 for what we're doing is plenty

[foggy hazel]

fair enough

but again, as mentioned earlier, i would not be doing due diligence if i dont inform you about it :)

[compact yoke]

Of course! Thanks for all the help! I'll speak with my colleagues with the info you gave me!

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome @compact yoke

and please do come back and ask if you have any questions

and as a frame of reference, the next "step" after the above linked build is about 6700-ish CAD

for a 32core, 256gig build

[cursive wharf]

@foggy hazel Even using PBO can put the VRMs on that board on a heck ton of stress im pretty sure

x570 Gaming Pro Carbon with 3950x

Let alone actual OCing (which I dont think will be done, but should mention anyways)

[foggy hazel]

not had any problems at all with it, in any of the systems i have deployed with it

but i hear you.

[cursive wharf]

Based on reviews Ive heard, VRMs get quite hot. Looked a little into it (not much) after the whole Hardware Unboxed vs Toms Hardware thing few days ago

to the point of downclocking CPU a tad bit apparently (need to look into it properly tho)

[foggy hazel]

keep in mind that we have a fair bit of "false positives" from the early days in regards to clock speed readings

as in, the early reports need to be inspected in detail

[cursive wharf]

afaik it was from the VRMs on this board. 115c is the max before underclocking happens. VRMs were 111c - 119c depending on reviews or smth

with a 3900x tested

on PBO I think

[foggy hazel]

as i said, i have not seen any weird behaviour on the ones i have deployed

[cursive wharf]

well idk then

[foggy hazel]

but thank you for voicing your concerns/opinions.

well thought out comments are always very welcome :)

[wispy matrix]

Hello naed and hei

[cursive wharf]

welcome
and
'Ello

[foggy hazel]

Hello

and with that, i think i am out for the night

[upper condor]

Have a good sleep?

[wispy matrix]

I need to fix up my build to make it look better this is a temporary place rn and I’m getting a better monitor

Any cheap monitors that would look good

[cursive wharf]

dont know of any cheap monitors that're good. Not much into knowing them

and gn Naed

[blissful garden]

you need a bigger mousepad bruh

[austere condor]

working on parting out a new flip build

looking for opinions on what y'all think its worth

[floral zephyr]

Help! Just installed my new motherboard and cpu but my pc won’t boot. I have the x570 steel legend and the 3950x. I checked all the wires/connections. Even tried the screwdriver trick to eliminate a bad power switch wire.

[austere condor]

thats the specs

[viral ore]

i think i would pay about 800USD for that, but I'm sure you could easily get someone who isn't an enthusiast to pick it up for 1200USD

[upper condor]

@viral ore did you not notice the 1080ti?

And how those cost about 1000 new

[viral ore]

the 1080ti in that build is worth like 450

maybe even 400

[upper condor]

Yet sells for 994

[viral ore]

its not super desirable as a part, considering its pretty much just a blower

sells for 994, eh?

source?

[austere condor]

amazon 3rd part seller has one listed for $994 which is absurd

[viral ore]

o look

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-Gaming-Blower-11GB-Graphics-Card-Aero-11G-OC-Tested/264647801115?hash=item3d9e3cf91b:g:MIwAAOSwzG9eUGX~

389

thats about right

[austere condor]

i was thinking i could get $1000-$1200 for the PC

[upper condor]

1https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k9zZxr/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-aero-oc-video-card-gtx-1080-ti-aero-11g-oc

[viral ore]

yeah, that sounds about right

[upper condor]

No me

[viral ore]

yeah, you have to understand what pcpp is used for, and what it isnt used for

[austere condor]

cheap 1080ti's like that are worth $400~

[viral ore]

pcpp is good for mocking up a build quickly, and thats about it

[austere condor]

which is why i didnt include any of the prices

lol

[viral ore]

if you wanna get accurate pricing for anything that isnt brand new, you gotta pull up avg market prices on sites where people sell them

exactly

[austere condor]

recently sold listings on ebay

[upper condor]

I said thats how much it sells new

[austere condor]

is pretty reliable

[upper condor]

Not used

Not what its worth

[viral ore]

there is a 99.99% chance the card in that build is used

so i assume its used

[austere condor]

if i can get at least $1000 for it, i'd be alright with that profit

$1200 would be ideal though

[upper condor]

How much did it cost?

[austere condor]

i havent bought the CPU/mobo/cooler yet

[viral ore]

tbh, 1100+ shouldnt be hard for a system like that

[austere condor]

but it in the end it will be $850-$900 depending on what i want to do with it

to build

[upper condor]

Throw in the 1080ti, say it sells for almost 1000 new, and "discount" it to 500

[austere condor]

thats scummy

[viral ore]

lol

[austere condor]

so no

[upper condor]

Ik, just sayin

Its still a very good gpu

[viral ore]

but its still only worth 400

[still roost]

Demonmit1#9106 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[upper condor]

Again, what its worth and what its sold for is different

[viral ore]

i dont think you understand

[upper condor]

I do

[austere condor]

misrepresenting an item saying its worth signifigantly more than it is, isnt technically a scam, but its scummy and immoral

[viral ore]

what it sells for IS what its worth

^

when it comes to used components, that is

[upper condor]

Yes indeed

[austere condor]

Zalman Z3 is one of my favorite cases too

^ last build i did in the S3'

[viral ore]

dang

thats a nice case

the dual gpus make it look really balanced on the inside

[upper condor]

Thats a powerful build if it needs a 1000w psu

[little osprey]

@upper condor just isn't a nice person

@austere condor

[viral ore]

ok

[upper condor]

I never said he should do that, just that he could

@viral ore @austere condor hes triggered because I kept correcting his grammar when he pmed me calling me a donkey

[viral ore]

ok

[upper condor]

Then he blocked me :)

But, idc

[viral ore]

idc either

[upper condor]

Yeah depending on the 9900Ts performance, id buy that for 1200 if I was uneducated

Maybe up the ram speed just a bit? Unless you just have that lying around

@austere condor

[viral ore]

9900T is literally a 9900k but it boosts to 4.4 instead of 5.0

so

not really a ton of performance loss

[upper condor]

Well yes, but are there benchmarks out

I have not researched it

[viral ore]

600mhz wont make a huge difference

like, single core perf will be lower

but overall with 8c/16t will still be better than the 9700k

[upper condor]

How much does it cost?

[viral ore]

its cheap

like 220 iirc

its locked, of course

[upper condor]

Ah

[viral ore]

eh, more like 270

[upper condor]

So then you cant OC it?

[viral ore]

nope

but for being near half the cost of the 9900k

[upper condor]

Whats its base?

[viral ore]

its good enough

2.1

[upper condor]

.......

Ok

But it boosts to 4.4?

[viral ore]

yep

[upper condor]

If I had just waited 3 weeks for my build.........

[viral ore]

why? did you get a 9900k?

[upper condor]

Nope

[viral ore]

good

lol

then amd is still fine

[upper condor]

Lol id still be happy

[austere condor]

PCPP doesnt have the kit of ram i have, the kit i have is a ballistics elite 3200 Cl14 @upper condor

[upper condor]

Ah ok

I have a 3600, great value but for around 40$ I coulda gotten the 9900t

Which is probably better

[austere condor]

9900T is essentially a R7 2700x, but with the i9 logo

[viral ore]

nah, the 3600 is still better

for single core perf

[upper condor]

Gotta love hyper-threading

[viral ore]

im mostly saying for things that like utilizing lots of cores, the 9900t isnt bad for the price

[upper condor]

Mk

Phew

[viral ore]

the 3600 is still better

[upper condor]

Ive had my regrets with my build

Didnt wanna add another

[viral ore]

lmao

[upper condor]

Hey its true

Pretty much every part coulda been better

[viral ore]

i dropped 1300 on a meh system, and I still have no regrets

[austere condor]

good day of flipping 😄

[viral ore]

its too cool for me to be unhappy

ayyyy

he got da bread

[upper condor]

@austere condor stop flexing >:(

But congrats

[austere condor]

$1350 today 😄

[upper condor]

Dang

You must have ana amazing market near you

To be able to make a career out of this

@viral ore I accidently got a crappy monitor, mobo is a bad choice, and gpu

Id return it but.......

Still happy

[viral ore]

u gotta take your time planning this kinda stuff

[upper condor]

I did

I spent 2 months

[viral ore]

oof

[upper condor]

But, the monitor was just really cheap

[viral ore]

gotta do research too ya kno

lots of it

[upper condor]

I didnt think i would with the monitor

[sullen spoke]

you learn more from your mistakes then you do your successes

[upper condor]

I ordered my mobo right when manufacturers started putting 3rd gen ready on the board pages

So I got the tomahawk max instead of the aorus pro wifi or b450f

But hey, a builds a build

[sullen spoke]

still a pc

if it runs it's good

lol

[upper condor]

Eh

I feel like it should be better

Only getting 70 fps on apex 1080p max everything

16x aa tho so.....

[sullen spoke]

what gpu

aa doesn't affect performance too much

[viral ore]

aa? yeah it does

it effects preformance by a decent chunk

[upper condor]

5700 XT

[viral ore]

antisotropics on the other hand, not as much

[upper condor]

Max overclock stable

[sullen spoke]

anti aliasing?

[upper condor]

Yes

16x

[viral ore]

wdym max oc?

[upper condor]

I overclocked it to the max I could

[sullen spoke]

usually doesn't make much of a difference

[viral ore]

what software are you using

and whats the power limit set to

[upper condor]

MSI afterburner and radeon software

+50 watts

[sullen spoke]

aa is usually one of those settings where it doesn't matter too much if you have on or off

[viral ore]

you should only use one software for stuff like that

[upper condor]

I use radeon to look at performance

[viral ore]

oh ok

[upper condor]

Afterburner to set settinfs

[sullen spoke]

good

[upper condor]

But yeah, it does well on everything else

[viral ore]

amd has their own builtin ocing software tho

you should try that first

watt master

i think

[sullen spoke]

auto oc stuff doesn't always work the best

[upper condor]

I tried that then afterburner

Afterburner better

250 fps csgo

Im so good

[viral ore]

i used watt master on my RX 470 and got like a 20% oc

it works

[sullen spoke]

csgo is often cpu bound

[upper condor]

130 fps minecraft max settings

With 445 mods

[sullen spoke]

lol minecraft is so weird

[viral ore]

optifine maxed?

[upper condor]

Yes

[sullen spoke]

one day I got 180fps the next I had 700

[viral ore]

good

[upper condor]

Any mod you think of, I have

[sullen spoke]

electricalage?

[upper condor]

Its called the omega adventure pack

[sullen spoke]

pneumaticCraft?

[upper condor]

Yep

Yep

[sullen spoke]

galaticraft

[upper condor]

It needs 6gb of ram to load

Yes

[sullen spoke]

hmm lemme think

[viral ore]

oh, i just bought another 768GB ssd

[upper condor]

Nice

[viral ore]

now i have 2 identical ones

[upper condor]

Yay

[sullen spoke]

I need another 1tb ssd

[viral ore]

its gonna look so dope i cant wait

[upper condor]

I have 1tb nvme

[sullen spoke]

What about ReactorCraft?

[upper condor]

Yep

[viral ore]

the IOPS of my NVMe is crazy fast

[upper condor]

Any decently big mod it has

(Big as in popularity)

[sullen spoke]

what is the center part of the nuclear fusion reactor called then

[viral ore]

the core

[upper condor]

Bruh idk

[sullen spoke]

lol

[viral ore]

idk

[upper condor]

I just started today

[sullen spoke]

WRONG

The solenoid is the center

[upper condor]

Its hard not to die instantly

[viral ore]

i play vanilla + optifine mc only

[upper condor]

Because there arr mafia bees everywhere

Watch socksfor1 series on it

He survived 600 days hardcore with it

He uses a nuclear reactor I think

[sullen spoke]

it is hard to build

[upper condor]

Idk

600 days is a long

Time

8 days of play time

[sullen spoke]

hardcore is pretty hard ngl

[upper condor]

Yep

He died like 300 times in the first 10 days

[floral zephyr]

Had issues getting it up and running but here’s my new build.

It’s a ryzen 9 3950x with a strix 1080ti oc. First time using an aio.

[teal bison]

#build-pics

And how have you captured the sun inside of your pc?

[sullen spoke]

oh lol didn't even realize this is #building-and-recc-chat

[wispy matrix]

@sullen spoke how do I hook up my audio

[sullen spoke]

wdym?

[wispy matrix]

I can’t hear anything

[sullen spoke]

speakers? headphones?

[wispy matrix]

Spekers

[sullen spoke]

3.5mm jack?

[wispy matrix]

When I go to my specs for my pc it says audio n/a

[sullen spoke]

are there audio ports on the mobo io?

[sullen spoke]

what mobo is it?

oh nvm

lol

did you plug in the audio jack into the green middle port on the mobo

[wispy matrix]

Yes

[sullen spoke]

like on the bottom of it near ethernet

do you see anything in sound settings

like in sound control panel

[wispy matrix]

That’s blue I’m colorblind

[sullen spoke]

if they are speakers use green port

lol

[wispy matrix]

Which one

[sullen spoke]

front speaker out

[wispy matrix]

Still Not working

[sullen spoke]

can you check your default device

ez way to see audio devices is down here

also where did you get that system specs window

[wispy matrix]

NZXT cam

[sullen spoke]

can you go to sound control panel and screenshot that

[sullen spoke]

are there any other devices

[wispy matrix]

Fixed it

[sullen spoke]

nice what did you do

lol

[wispy matrix]

I set my sound to the 4-hp w2207

[sullen spoke]

nice

the speaker output should be for the mobo and the hp for monitor sound

[wispy matrix]

I’m still getting used to

The new pc

Thx for the help

[sullen spoke]

np

start to get the feel of fresh pc

get that new pc smell

[wispy matrix]

Yep

My desk and monitor rn is temporary

[sullen spoke]

ye I did the same thing when I got my pc

[wispy matrix]

My gaming pc is to big for it and my monitors has a black hole

[sullen spoke]

lol

[real brook]

I need help

Idk what to pic

Palit Jetstream GTX 1070
Gigabyte GTX1070 G1
GALAX SNIPER GTX 1070

From these 3

[viral ore]

whatever is cheapest

[real brook]

Same price

:)

[sullen spoke]

check clock speeds

[real brook]

Uh

[viral ore]

well, idk about the first one, so def not that one

gigabyte is well known

galax is less known, but they still have decent cards

which one looks the coolest of those 2

literally just pick it based on that

[real brook]

Galax is white :)

[sullen spoke]

galax is in asia i believe

[real brook]

Not really

[vivid atlas]

Hello, I'm planning to pair a B450 Aorus Elite with the CM MB511 RGB. There are 4 included fans in the case and I'm adding 2 Arctic P14 140mm. Do I need a fan splitter to power all these fans or no ?

6 total

[tranquil dust]

i would assume yes

[vivid atlas]

How many splitters would I need ? @tranquil dust

[tranquil dust]

says it has 3 system fan headers, not including cpu

id get like 3 or 4 to be safe

also allows you to make it slightly longer if needed

[vivid atlas]

thank you @tranquil dust

[tranquil dust]

yw

[little osprey]

Can someone make me a $800-900 PC? Ryzen cpu, no preference on gpu

[stoic island]

Gaming?

@little osprey what do you do, and what do you need the pc to do?

[little osprey]

@stoic island yes

[stoic island]

(like streaming, video editing, etc)

[little osprey]

Gaming

[stoic island]

Monitor or no

[little osprey]

No thanks

[stoic island]

How much storage do you need?

like only 1tb, or do you need 500gb boot drive + 2tb hard drive

[little osprey]

Boot ssd and like 1- 2tb

[stoic island]

something like this should work
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCrrp8

[little osprey]

Ty :)

[true comet]

Hey Chat - buying my build today https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rqYn9G

any suggestions before purchasing?

thoughts on moving to 2060 vs 2070 GPU

to save some money?

[stoic island]

2070 is a fair bet better than the 2060, definally work getting a 2070 over a 2060 imo

[cerulean burrow]

Thoughts on this part list?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[violet lichen]

@cerulean burrow You didn't link your part list

[true comet]

@stoic island thank you

Will be purchasing everything today

[teal bison]

you have to link that part @cerulean burrow

[stoic island]

Lol phone autocorrect messed me up

Meant to type "worth", it typed work

But anyways, @true comet good luck on your build.

[cerulean burrow]

Oops. My bad. Give me just a moment

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zippin96/saved/#view=J22dmG

@true comet @teal bison

[teal bison]

all good

thats a lot of saved builds lol

[cerulean burrow]

If it has multiple lists, click on the one that says "ITX build"

I get bored a lot lol

[teal bison]

the x53 is $20 cheaper

and i think its pretty much the same but the 53 you can rotate the logo

[cerulean burrow]

The AIO?

[teal bison]

ya

its pretty new

[cerulean burrow]

The X53 is $10 more on PCPartPicker

I was looking at the wrong price lol. You were right

[stoic island]

Samsung SSDs so expensive

[teal bison]

oh lol ya i was double checking to make sure i wasnt going crazy

[cerulean burrow]

Do you think that case has enough room to do a push pull configuration on that AIO?

[teal bison]

also ya 150 for a 1tb is a pretty steep price, if you need fast storage might as well get the sabrent rocket for the same price

[stoic island]

Also you already have a sabrent rocket 4.0 1tb in there sooo

[cerulean burrow]

That's fair

[teal bison]

and what are you using it for? if it is just for gaming then storage speed isnt a big deal

[stoic island]

Yea

[teal bison]

but if you do need fast storage, the sabrent gen4 2tb is 175 more so you are spending 25 extra for a lot more speed

25 more than getting a sabrent gen3*

[stoic island]

Nvme 3.0 to 4.0 real world differences are small unless you're dragging around 10gb files all the time

[cerulean burrow]

It will be for gaming, VR, and maybe music production

[teal bison]

i would just get a 2tb sata if you want that much fast storage

[cerulean burrow]

The sabent rocket 2TB is $380

Oh!

[teal bison]

ya and the ssd you were going to get was 150

[cerulean burrow]

Oh okay.

Do you think that the case with that GPU would work with a push-pull configuration on the AIO?

Does this look better?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zippin96/saved/J22dmG

[teal bison]

also i just noticed that psu is wayy overkill

[cerulean burrow]

Recommendation?

[teal bison]

well the phanteks amp 650W is $40 cheaper and its a good one, i would go with that

and the ram timings arent great

[cerulean burrow]

Okay. Recommendations?

[teal bison]

well i assume you went for the trident z for the aesthetics

[cerulean burrow]

Yeah. I chose the non-rgb version

[teal bison]

are you ok with having rgb? you can always turn it off

for the same price

and better performance

[cerulean burrow]

Sure!

[teal bison]

oh wait im dumb i just realized that you have 32gb

ok so there are 2 options

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc
and
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc

[cerulean burrow]

It has been updated! Any other recommendations?

[teal bison]

well i personally would go with cheaper storage but if you do want the fast storage that is a good one so its up to you

[cerulean burrow]

Awesome! Thank you!

[wide sparrow]

Need some good rgb strips

[stoic island]

Reference 2080 super might not be the best idea, you could get something like this for cheaper.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fpbCmG/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-black-gaming-video-card-08g-p4-3081-kr

@cerulean burrow

[cerulean burrow]

It is for the asthetics lol

@stoic island

[stoic island]

ah okay

@cerulean burrow you completely sure though? You won't be able to see the front of the GPU in your build, unless you're doing a vertical GPU build

[cerulean burrow]

Yeah, but I like the silver of it

[stoic island]

gotcha

[cerulean burrow]

Similar to this

[stoic island]

oh, you going for a white build?

[cerulean burrow]

Yees

A white, black, an a little silver lol

[foggy hazel]

@cerulean burrow perhaps have a look at the msi ventus?

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel the ventus only has the white on the face-plate-fan-section-thing, but the top is basically black

[foggy hazel]

aye, ventus for a "vertical"/sideways mount

[stoic island]

yea, I believe they were running a normal mount

[foggy hazel]

my mistake on not including that context [edit: context]

[cerulean burrow]

Thanks for the advice! I think I am going to stick with the RTX 2080 Super Reference Edition

[deep skiff]

I’d try to avoid the h200 line if you can with a air cooled card

[cerulean burrow]

Because it hampers air flow?

[deep skiff]

yeah if you use an atx psu

lot of people have reported a choked gpu

[cerulean burrow]

This image shows some space there

But that is also a founders edition GPU

[deep skiff]

yuh

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/a1jfvi/h200_front_rad_murders_my_gpu/?

[cerulean burrow]

What GPU would you recommend?

Or, what if I switched to a SFX PSU?

[deep skiff]

the gpu is fine, good airflow itx cases and budget don’t really go together

I’ll see if I can help you later

[cerulean burrow]

Okay

I updated it to an SFX PSU

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zippin96/saved/J22dmG

[cursive wharf]

Temps will be bad. You're choosing a case with poor airflow (even in the ITX space) with a GPU that has a poor cooler

[cerulean burrow]

Okay. And it would not get better with an SFX PSU?

I also won't be playing super taxing games

[cursive wharf]

Doesn't matter too much for SFX. If the case supports ATX then no reason to waste money/quality on SFX

[stoic island]

Just getting a different better case will make a nice difference

[cerulean burrow]

What about the Phanteks Enthoo ITX case?

This one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PBwqqs/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-itx-tg-mini-itx-desktop-case-ph-es215ptg_wt

[wraith stag]

is this a decent build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49qpDx

[cursive wharf]

@cerulean burrow seems to be worse

[stoic island]

650ti..?

[wraith stag]

its the one i currently have rn

only thing i have to wait to update really

[cursive wharf]

So you already bought everything?

[wraith stag]

no i havent

[stoic island]

Oh yea Hei how do you feel about coolermaster h100

for an itx case

[wraith stag]

its a 3600 6 core for the cpu

[strange garden]

Anyone have a recommendation for a CPU cooler for an I7-8700 that I can sync up with Aura Sync? Hoping to not break the bank but want a little extra flare and performance over the stock intel cooler

[cursive wharf]

Going to maybe want an SFX PSU as it covers the CPU cooler @stoic island
Even then, idk CPU cooler perf. Good apart from that tho

@wraith stag okay, so what are you buying and what aren't you buying from that list?

[wraith stag]

hdd and gpu

[cursive wharf]

@strange garden might be something from upHere if looking on the cheap side

@wraith stag is what you're keeping?

[wraith stag]

yeah

[cursive wharf]

Because for $500 you can make a build with what is probably a slightly better CPU then what you currently have with a much better GPU then what you currently have

GTX1650S, maybe 1660S

[wraith stag]

AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 Six-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM4 Desktop Processor <- is what i would be getting

forgot to change that

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf did you mean to ping someone else..?

[cursive wharf]

@wraith stag as for $500 you can just go for this and due to the GPU would be a better gaming system https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cCyKn7
@stoic island you asked for how good the CM H100 ITX was didn't you?

[stoic island]

Yea

this looked like you were critiquing a PSU and a cooler lol

I see now tho

[latent bronze]

@little osprey are you using a TV as your main display?

[pale sundial]

can you guys help me? so i got one of my monitors plugged into my gpu and one plugged into my motherboard and 1 isn't turning on

[latent bronze]

you have to plug both in the GPU

GPU will usually override the motherboard so called on board GPU

If your monitor is both HDMI and your GPU only has 1 HDMI you would need to get an gender adapter to make the other one like a HDMI

[pale sundial]

ok thank you it turned on now

[wraith stag]

@cursive wharf can I just switch out my processor?

[cursive wharf]

@wraith stag sure

[wraith stag]

It's an i5 2500

[cursive wharf]

You'd be best off just switching out the GPU instead of the CPU as a first step. Second step is to save a bit more money and switch out the CPU/mobo/RAM

[wraith stag]

With my current setup, can I do that without running into issues?

[floral zephyr]

Got my boot time down to 12 seconds from the time I press power. Now I just need to reroute my 24 pin cable, reapply some thermal paste and install my m.2 sata to ssd when it comes. After that I want some more Corsair fans to go with my h115i platinum. Thinking 2 140mm top mount and a 120mm rear mount.

[foggy hazel]

@wraith stag as we talked about previously, yes.

[latent bronze]

@wraith stag You can use 2nd and 3rd gen without any issues but still good to see if your bios needs an update

[wraith stag]

So I'll just upgrade the gpu today

[latent bronze]

If you plan on swapping out the 2500 i would say go for the 3770

[foggy hazel]

he isnt

because the weakpoint, by far, is the gpu

[wraith stag]

MSI - GAMING X NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card - Black/Gray

[latent bronze]

The i5 2500 is good but when i built my new system i saw that the CPU was coming close to its end

[foggy hazel]

consider what GPU he currrently has Ecks :)

[latent bronze]

I have used his GPU in the past as well

[wraith stag]

A 650 TI boost!

[latent bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks3oCSBCovA

Same CPU and GPU back in the days

[stoic island]

self plug xD

[latent bronze]

Back then i was using a 720p 26" LCD TV

[wraith stag]

So is a 1660 gonna be okay with everything I have now?

[latent bronze]

Well 1660 Super cause more performance for like the same price

might see a little bit of a bottleneck but not much

[wraith stag]

I plan on going with a super

[latent bronze]

But if you do ever plan on swapping out the i5 2500 for something else i would say the 3770

[foggy hazel]

his plan is an eventual new main+cpu+ram

unless he changed his mind from yesterday

[wraith stag]

I'm upgrading everything in time.

But if a gpu is all I need for right now I'm gonna stick with it

[sharp perch]

I'm tryna make a mac/ windows setup but idk what I should get can anyone help me

[latent bronze]

If you're making a hackintosh system with a dual boot for windows you should have 2 separate drives for each OS

[sharp perch]

so what do you recommend

[latent bronze]

for the drives or the whole system?

For a whole system i do know that mac tends to favor AMD more for the GPU

[sharp perch]

yes the whole system

@latent bronze

so like for the macos il do music and video production and windows for gaming

and school work

[latent bronze]

To be honest for the Mac portion of your system you should see GPU supported list cause like i said it does tend to favor AMD more

[sharp perch]

true

can you make a build that is good for that

[latent bronze]

Sadly i can't cause i am doing a lot of other things right now and it would take me time to look up the support list

@foggy hazel if you're still here you wanna help out

[sharp perch]

wait why is his role taken away

[latent bronze]

I don't know the reason and something you shouldn't pry into

[sharp perch]

okay

[foggy hazel]

@sharp perch https://www.tonymacx86.com/

start by reading up on stuff there

there are a number of builds there that will give you an idea about parts etc etc

for more details etc, it will have to wait until tomorrow at the earliest

but i cannot promise anything, as it stands right now, i have a 18hour work day tomorrow

and with that, i am out.

[sullen spoke]

18hr?

jeez

[subtle halo]

@foggy hazel i admire ur xD passion to work that straight

[floral zephyr]

so thinking about replacing my stock case fans to match my h115i platinum fans and turning the case switch into a clear cmos button

the switch addresses the rgb for the case fans btw

[true comet]

Hey chat - thoughts on a different HD and potentially doubling up on the Storage?

Looking to buy today https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rqYn9G

[teal bison]

do you need 6tb of storage?

the storage right now is fine imo

oh wait

its out of stock

dont know why but the exact same hdd is in stock

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MmGPvW

[true comet]

Okay thats why I was asking

I did not see it in stock

Thank you

Will this require a bios update?

There is a Compatibility warning

[sharp solstice]

Okay can anyone help me? Im looking to build a pc to play overwatch and other fps games. I have $600 that i can spend.

[little osprey]

Opinion on a 1660ti

?

[sullen spoke]

it's a gpu

I'd say the 1660 super is better value but if you can find for same price 1660ti is slightly better

[little osprey]

Hey I'm needing some hel0

Help

So just built my new pc, but I'm having issues using the dvi port on it, I tested the Cord it works same with the monitor so any ideas

[wide sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fwKpDx

Will this suffice?

I'm sick of that website now

[quick ledge]

I have a asus maximus ix hero and i see theres a m.2 e-key slot so what kind of network card should i be looking at

[floral tree]

can someone give me a good $1000 build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Wn627

this is kind of what I came up with

[vivid atlas]

1650 in a 1000 USD build 😮

Are you sure you need 1TB of SSD storage ? @floral tree

[floral tree]

Yeah. I have a pc with like 2tb right now and it’s not quite enough

I changed it a little

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wybLp8

[vivid atlas]

are you gaming only or also streaming/multi tasking ? @floral tree

[floral tree]

gaming

[vivid atlas]

alright

[foggy hazel]

@floral tree from the saved lists

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTwYf9

[floral tree]

that seems really good.

but its a micro atx board

and I want an mid tower

[foggy hazel]

and?

[floral tree]

idk I am looking for a full sized bui,d

[foggy hazel]

just FYI, the chance of you using all the expansion slots are very close to zero

[floral tree]

ture

but can I put the Micro ATX mobo into the mid tower case>

[foggy hazel]

yes

you can

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tt3Wb <- here is the same board in its ATX format

[floral tree]

oh ok

[foggy hazel]

just remember, you are the one choosing to pay the money for it :)

[floral tree]

or its a gift 😉

[foggy hazel]

your choice either way

[upper condor]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q2npDx @little osprey

[sharp perch]

idk which headset is good for gaming and editing and music production

[sullen spoke]

Probably want to look at audio technica or sennheiser

[obsidian sand]

Will I be able to take advantage of the full speed for the Samsung Evo 970 plus NVME M.2 Internal SSD using it with an Asus 970 Pro Aura AMD 970 motherboard?

[latent bronze]

[obsidian sand]

@latent bronze anything I can get to turn that intoa YES?

[sullen spoke]

If you don’t already have a ssd a sata ssd might be a better option

[obsidian sand]

I have an EVO 850 250

but I want to get a faster drive and 500gb

[sullen spoke]

Well you can get more storage but not faster

You need a bigger upgrade for that

[floral zephyr]

So my mobo has clear cmos headers, my case has a button on the front that controls my rgb case fans but if I switch those out with Corsair fans and make them addressable I could essentially repurpose that button into a clear cmos button.

[late ice]

Would love some other opinions on cable colors for the build I just posted over in #build-pics

[viral ore]

Damb that's kinda cool, but what will the rest of the build end up looking like?

Unless everything else is also purple, grey and black, those are gonna stick out like a sore thumb

Oh haha, just looked at your build

What color fluid are you thinking about?

I think it would look best if you used only black and silver, or you made all of the cables entirely the same color as your fluid

Anything else would stand out too much, and wouldn't compliment the rest of the color scheme

Srry for the rant lol

[late ice]

Running electric purple

Solid electric purple from EK.

[viral ore]

then def get solid purple

well, if you can get cable really close to the same color, it would look cool

[spice mauve]

5600xt or 2060 (for ~$300, around me, 5600xt's are 320, about the same price for a 2060KO)

[upper condor]

2060 KO

[sudden turret]

why gilbert

[sullen spoke]

Cuz nvidia ofc

[vestal cove]

How should I install my aio, should I place the pump on my cpu first, then put the motherboard in the case, then screw the fans into the radiator and screw the radiator in, or should I put the motherboard in, then screw in the pump then the radiator

[sullen spoke]

I don’t know much about aios but I’d say put the fans in the radiator first, then pump on the cpu, mobo in case, mount radiator

[sudden turret]

fans/rad first

[naive viper]

should I connect these two together?

is this for the rgb on the case fans?

the RGB controller

I think it does connect

[icy plume]

if it looks like they connect, it probably does in my experience

[naive viper]

just wanna make sure

[prime spear]

Yo guys whats the best proccessor for the rtx2060super

with new mobo

And just to let you know i play Fortnite COMPETITIVELY i get 60+ Players Endgame with lots of people bulding/rotating all the time.

[sullen spoke]

Depends on budget

3600 or 3600x or 3700x is nice

[celest horizon]

I thought the same, but caps lock makes me think more like 3900x

[sullen spoke]

True

Whatever you can afford I guess

Lol

[real epoch]

I want to pimp my computer build out, aesthetically only. Budget of $100 per item

[violet lichen]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pg44Pn

What do you think of my build

(The reason I choose most of the parts was because I found a deal somewhere)

[real epoch]

I'd recommend upgrading your GPU

Otherwise pretty decent build

[violet lichen]

I agree it's a little underpowered but I found an amazing deal and plan to see what 3000 series brings

[real epoch]

Yeah good idea

[violet lichen]

@real epoch I think you should get rgb fans if you like that sort of thing and get cable extensions

[real epoch]

I'm thinking of getting strimmers because y'know...RGB

[wide sparrow]

@violet lichen your Build's quite expensive

[violet lichen]

Says the guy with a graphics card that isn't even released

3080?

[wide sparrow]

Kek

still a great build tho

[violet lichen]

also I got the power supply and cpu cooler used so those were 100 together

and actually got 970 evo plus 500

[cursive wharf]

@violet lichen oof. You have been fooled by the name branding. That is the 2012 CX model and not the 2017 one

[violet lichen]

ya I know I got it used

do you think it will blow up?

[cursive wharf]

well it'll probably fail soon, being an old model and used

iirc the bad old model was green CXM. Green CX was eh

[worthy narwhal]

hi guys can someone dm me gonna upgrade cpu and want SSD

wanna make sure my motherboard supports

[wispy lynx]

@violet lichen hey

I hope that isnt actually what you are getting

thats quite bad

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BP44Pn

given that this has double the SSD size, a much better PSU, a better case, much better ram, a much better motherboard and a much faster GPU

[violet lichen]

@wispy lynx I got the smaller case because I will be moving this pc a bit and don't usually have much living space, I got the 3800x and 32gb of ram because I am also using it as a workstation

[wispy lynx]

yikes

thats a waste

but alas

[violet lichen]

I get that it isn't the most price to performance 😕

[little osprey]

What’s better the Zotac gtx 1660 super twin fan or the Zotac gtx 1660 Super amp?

[real brook]

I need techy people

Im am nub

Im a gal who ned help

[upper condor]

@real brook with what

[real brook]

Is vega 64 good

[upper condor]

Not for price

[real brook]

300$

[upper condor]

Even then

Theres better options

[real brook]

Like

[upper condor]

Wait where are you buying it for 300?

[real brook]

Facebook

Alo?

[graceful epoch]

My current build is i7-8700k @4.7ghz, rtx 2080 super, 32gb gskill tridentz @ 3200, msi z370 gaming pro carbon...would it be worth upgrading to a 9700k as i dont want to upgrade mobo right now

[late ice]

@real brook I'd personally spend the extra $50-100 and get a new 2060 super. 🤷‍♂️

[violet lichen]

@graceful epoch I would not upgrade yet just wait and upgrade everything

[half temple]

Should I get the Rx 5700xt or the 2070 super?

[subtle halo]

depends on what game you are playing search benchmark for it

[sullen spoke]

2070 super

[subtle halo]

if you are happy with the result then decide

[sullen spoke]

2070s has better drivers, and has better recording and streaming with nvenc. 5700xt might be better for productivity

[subtle halo]

Battlefield V for example 5700 xt got higher frames ... but then AC odessy .. 2070 is higher

[foggy hazel]

@upper condor where did you get your current audio driver?

[upper condor]

the motherboards website

[foggy hazel]

remind me of your MB again?

[upper condor]

b450 tomahawk max

[little osprey]

Long beep from mobo alarm?

[upper condor]

nothing

it turns on and im typing on it rn, its all the audio ports that dont work

[little osprey]

Im talkin about mine

[upper condor]

ah ok

[subtle halo]

maybe xD u dint wear that anti static band haha

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey look in your mainboard manual

[subtle halo]

zap those ports xD

@upper condor for real what did you do yesterday?

before you got 2 sec shoutdown last time

[little osprey]

Ight

[subtle halo]

last game u played

last settings u do

[upper condor]

I changed the mic volume, let radeon auto oc, and played minecraft til 2am

[subtle halo]

its working before right?

[upper condor]

445 mods, max settings

it was

[subtle halo]

xD

[upper condor]

I get off, wake up and turn on

that leads to this mornings events

[subtle halo]

the headphones still working before?

[upper condor]

they were

both pairs work on my phone

[subtle halo]

then now that we reset bios and load default

all ports static

[foggy hazel]

https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/pc-audio-codecs-high-definition-audio-codecs-software

@upper condor

for you

[upper condor]

which one>

?

[foggy hazel]

the 258meg one

[upper condor]

mk

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey a bit more info for you: the manual should have the "decoder" list for the beeps :)

[upper condor]

@subtle halo how to reset bios im in it

[subtle halo]

u already did lol right?

[upper condor]

No I didnt

[foggy hazel]

on the "save and exit" screen, there should be a "load defaults" option

[subtle halo]

ow you resit the cpu ?

[latent bronze]

should be an option to restore to default

[upper condor]

Where tho

Its not on the save and exit part

[subtle halo]

bios menu

[upper condor]

Well duh

[latent bronze]

Anyways be back in an hour

[subtle halo]

check the mobo manual or google it xD mine is at before i exit..

sav, exit, restore and exit

exit and save

[foggy hazel]

@upper condor F6 while in the bios

(according to your manual that is)

[upper condor]

Sweet

Ok turning on

[foggy hazel]

also @upper condor it IS on the save and exit screen

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK-MAX#down-manual

look at page 52

[upper condor]

I did it, doesnt work still

will try the drivers

[foggy hazel]

yes, because it doesnt have anything to do with your current trouble @upper condor

so it is not a wonder it didnt do anything

[little osprey]

Manual says nothing about a single long beep

[foggy hazel]

@cyan plaza because he/she listended to the sales rep.

[cyan plaza]

No they didn't buy it, just a existmate. They where shocked 😂

[foggy hazel]

i know

i did not say they purchased it.

[cyan plaza]

O ok sorry

[foggy hazel]

nothing to be sorry about.

and your experience is quite normal

the local retailers in general are under quite a bit of pressure (biz wise), so the "not so consumer friendly" practices are coming out again (from the hiding hole they have been in since the early 00's)

@little osprey mainboard?

[little osprey]

Thats a ripoff. Lol

Msi z390 pro carbon

[foggy hazel]

and the price itself is not "that" insane/crazy

remember, it is a b&m based store

[little osprey]

I have almost everything there with a 2080 super. For 1800

[foggy hazel]

yes, and if you look at the cost of the machine alone (with license) it is 1400

[cyan plaza]

Just a small shop that does computer repair and sells parts

[foggy hazel]

the 400 difference goes a long way towards that 2080 super @little osprey

[little osprey]

Your paying 1900 for a $50 case

[shut spoke]

rather take a ryzen or what ever

or a lower 3600 cpcu or a 9600k to get a better graphics

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey re: your problem (whatever it is): what does the debug leds say?

[little osprey]

Lights aren’t on

[foggy hazel]

which ones?

[little osprey]

Im also having a problem where the cpu hits 100% and stays there for a bit and either it freezes or i get fps drops

[still roost]

Dot_ex.3#2522 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[subtle halo]

oh uh

[little osprey]

Maybe cus my dog cpu

[foggy hazel]

okay, considering the absolute cluster of random info. Start from the beginning and lets have a chat about your system @little osprey

[little osprey]

Mobo: msi z390 pro carbon. Msi 2080 super. I7-9700. Corsair vengeance pro 16gb/pny xlr8 16gb

Starts gettin insane fps drops@240 down to like 60-70

[foggy hazel]

and what has been tried?

[little osprey]

Tas y im asking

All drivers are up to date

Tried cpu boost. But it runs worse

[foggy hazel]

(also, for those complaining about the price on what @cyan plaza listed earlier: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bgpzp8 <- as i said, the price wasnt "that" insane/crazy (this is not about it being the right/wrong parts, it is about the price) )

@little osprey "Tas y im asking" <- i only understand the later half of that sentence. so could you elaborate?

[little osprey]

Friend has same build with a i7-9700k and has no issues

So could it be my cpu

[foggy hazel]

who did the assembly of the machine @little osprey ?

[cursive wharf]

I have heard about audio drivers causing issues before, if on the newer Windows update

[little osprey]

Me

I did his to

[foggy hazel]

i dont see a cooler mentioned up above

[little osprey]

Corsair h100

Cx650m psu

[foggy hazel]

@cursive wharf that was aimed at the talk with gilbert right?

[cursive wharf]

Fps issues, causing stuttering due to audio drivers

[foggy hazel]

yes, that is true

[cursive wharf]

Idk if it pegs CPU tho, just have heard of stuttering

[foggy hazel]

had to ask about context, because it could apply to both cases

(and you have a habit of commenting a fair amount of time after the fact @cursive wharf :) )

[cursive wharf]

Yeah, I like to try to backread a bit

[foggy hazel]

aye :)

@little osprey okay, so based on the things you have said so far. Where does the beep thing come into play?

[little osprey]

Idk. Thats the first time i heard it

[foggy hazel]

how long ago did you build/assemble your machine?

[little osprey]

December

About 3 months

[foggy hazel]

and the stutters have only "just" started happening?

[little osprey]

Ya

[foggy hazel]

congratulations, i think you might just have won yourself a new windows installation.

[little osprey]

And theres like a whining noise that comes from mobo sometimes

[cursive wharf]

When was an update that happened? Win update, GPU driver update, game update

[foggy hazel]

"whining" noise?

[little osprey]

I updated the gpu a couple weeks ago

[foggy hazel]

the gpu itself or the driver?

[little osprey]

Yea. A whining noise. Like at the top left of the mobo

Drivers

[cursive wharf]

@foggy hazel any way to check when a Windows update last happened?

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey do me a favour and look up coil whine (look at a couple of videoes please) tell me if it sounds like that?

@cursive wharf under the windows update screen, there is a list of them

[cursive wharf]

Could be worth looking into the update history

[little osprey]

Ya. Does sound like coil whine

That doesn’t bother me to much tho

Im only worried about the fps drops and stuttering

[foggy hazel]

see above about the congratulations @little osprey

[upper condor]

@foggy hazel I finally finished installing those drivers, and it didnt work.

[foggy hazel]

installing them is the first step

[upper condor]

what next then?

[foggy hazel]

figuring out what you are doing wrong

so, in other words, we are going to be here a while :P

[upper condor]

all righty

Firsty should I send some screenshots of what it says is plugged in?

[foggy hazel]

hm

sorry for the following request:

but please tell/describe what seems to be wrong

[upper condor]

no prob

[foggy hazel]

(and yes, i know, you did in general earlier, but it was disjointed as all heck)

[upper condor]

Can you give me a second?

[foggy hazel]

no rush

[upper condor]

So basically, heres the whole story. This morning I got up and turned pc on, it shut down. I figured out the problem, fixed it, and then tried to play games. There was no audio so I thought ill just use to IO and try a different headset. That did nothing. I am using an xbox headset with an adapter for pc, ive uninstalled and reinstalled drivers multiple times, and clearing cmos or resetting bios does nothing(not that I expected it to, just in case)

Sidenote, I was tweaking with the microphone settings last night to try and make it not play all game audio

So what im wondering is, could having the headset in while my pc shut down break it somehow?

[foggy hazel]

technically it could happen.

[upper condor]

But both headsets still work on my phone, so that shouldnt be the problem

[foggy hazel]

realistically it is unlikely thou

[upper condor]

And only 1 was plugged in

[foggy hazel]

and you have tested it in a different output device (so that rules out the headset(s) being broken)

[upper condor]

Yes

And I unplugged and replugged front panel audio connector

But that leaves the mobo, why doesnt it detect it? Did I fry something?

[foggy hazel]

so, just to sum it up: currently you only have sound output from the front connectors?

[upper condor]

No

There is no sound output, period

[foggy hazel]

okay, give me a moment

@upper condor see pm

[little osprey]

Out of these two which is the better choice ?

[latent bronze]

Zotac

[shut spoke]

if it fits you then zotac if your the bigger cars fan then gigabyte

[latent bronze]

You always have to look at cards for their quality and services not the size of the card

[shut spoke]

yes

[little osprey]

With the Zotac 1660 super there’s two different version the super amp and super twin fan

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey whichever one you pick is the one.

[shut spoke]

if you have a litle more then see if you can take a rtx 2060 im not pressing or that just saying

[subtle halo]

i still choose x3 fan

[latent bronze]

This costs less and i personally find would be better https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1660-super-06g-p4-1061-kr/p/N82E16814487484?&quicklink=true

[subtle halo]

so i can disable 0 rpm mode.. and put them into 100rpm each