#building-and-recc-chat

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stray pine
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more than mine

viral ore
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more than my personal one too...

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so, are you planning on the black or white lian li case?

stray pine
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man, thats a hard decision. lighting looks better in white. but ive always been a black case guy

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white cost more too i think

wide sparrow
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Get white 👌

viral ore
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same, but that white case looks real cool

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plus, its black on the inside, so its more accomodating for dark colored components

stray pine
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hmmmm

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you know what? i didnt really look into it before ont he white and thet black interior does make it pop

stoic island
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I'm just gonna wait a bit more for case temps and stuff

stray pine
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right now at this time i dont really play a whole lot of games long periods of time bc i have limited internet. but once fiber gets in my area i will look into new cases and such. also a real desk and chair to sit at as wll

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so temps for me and what im using at this time arent super important

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gonna have t get me some more stand offs bc i think i stripped 4 of them. lol not sure how i did that. i barely snugged them down during install.

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i will be water cooling the next case so i can get rid of that massive cooler i have.

viral ore
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aios are much easier

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avoid custom loop unless you just wanna do it

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like me

stray pine
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yea. lots of assembly involved there

stoic island
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Air cooling :D

cursive wharf
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I mean, you get the benefit of easy maintenance and longer lifespan

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with custom

viral ore
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easy maintenance...

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maybe for some

cursive wharf
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a dead pump doesnt cost $130 and a full loop replacemnt

stray pine
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depends on how custom it is

viral ore
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if my pump dies im screwed

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or if theres any leak

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im done

cursive wharf
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adding another GPU or swapping it doesnt cost a bunch, if comparitive to GPU AIO

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as a GPU block is cheap, and you're running the CPU/GPU off of one pump so less points of failure

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comparative to a CPU pump and a GPU pump with full AIO

stray pine
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you can build mine for me @cursive wharf

viral ore
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tbh, getting a hybrid gpu and a cpu AIO can look just as sick as a custom loop

stray pine
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yea, watched speed builds of custom gpu cpu watercooling them

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neat stuff

deep skiff
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just get an eisbaer loop or other modular aio

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and then you can upgrade or replace parts much easier

stray pine
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witha wide open case i can see it being fairly simple tbh

cursive wharf
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applying some work for a stranger I dont know and wont get compensation from, while also being liable for any damages I make, while needing to worry about traveling. seems good enough

stray pine
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hells yea

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g2g be on later

strange thorn
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wrong chat

foggy hazel
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@cursive wharf also known as the "ye... NO!" option

little osprey
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Okay so we ended up stripping the entire PC double checked all the pins and motherboard sockets and nothing is wrong with any of it. We plugged everything back in and it's having the same issue so it's probably due to a user error. Gonna take it to a place where they have more experience with this stuff.

little osprey
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An RGB header.... that... was the problem XD

strange garden
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Anyone have any experience with the new EVGA GA psus? Know if they’re any good?

hearty fern
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depends on the series

strange garden
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What do you mean?

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I’m looking at the 750w GA

hearty fern
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Its not about what brand slaps the label on the side of the PSU that matters, its the oem people that make the guts.

strange garden
hearty fern
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idk about this one chief

strange garden
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How would I find that out?

hearty fern
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just look at reviews on youtube, johhnyguru, and techpowerup

viral ore
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y is the 8 missing

strange garden
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I literally can’t find any since it’s relatively new

viral ore
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on the 80+ sticker

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lmao

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its on this one too

sullen spoke
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I see no 8 in 80 plus

viral ore
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ikr

hearty fern
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its a 0 plus

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its a rare unit

strange garden
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😂😂

sullen spoke
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Ahh

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0 plus best

viral ore
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o hecc

strange garden
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But ya I can only find reviews for the other G series when I look it up

hearty fern
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gotta find at least one review on the right unit/series. Or find the tech specs

strange garden
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I mean it’s got a 10 year warranty which sounds like they have decent faith in it

hearty fern
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yes and no

strange garden
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Worst case it fails and I return it?

strange garden
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What about FSP Hydro psus?

west sand
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Guys I need help a build problem

cursive wharf
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I need to look into it so don't quote me, but iirc GA lacks some sort of protection or smth. Pretty sure I was skeptical of it for some reason. Tho I need to look into it when it's not 6am from me staying up all night and when I'm not on my phone

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@strange garden some are good some are bad

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@hearty fern it's not the OEM that matters, it's the specific model and components inside it. Seasonic is an OEM for most of their PSUs. Focus Plus Gold/Play being one of them iirc. That specific model also has super high overload voltage ripple. Thus not that good despite most OEM Seasonic PSUs being decent

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@foggy hazel sounds about right lol

umbral perch
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Guys i need a case for a tomahawk max a r5 3600 a gtx 1070 ti and a bq 600w

upper condor
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@umbral perch have you already bought all those parts

umbral perch
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Yea

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Just need the mobo and the case

upper condor
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And do u have a pcpp

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If so send it

umbral perch
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Yeah but im on mobile

upper condor
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U can still send

umbral perch
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And not all my build is on pcpp

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Like there isnt the ssd and the ram

upper condor
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Ok

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Well whats the case and mobo budget

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And where are you(country)

umbral perch
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Im going to miami rn

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Case 80$ but i need fans in it

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At least 3

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Mobo i took the tomahawk max

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@upper condor

vivid atlas
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I heard these had pretty good airflow too but IDK if all the fans you need come with the case

hearty fern
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ItS nOt tHe OEm, yeah lemme get a great wall

stoic island
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..?

hearty fern
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Guy pinged me earlier for no reason

stoic island
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There was a reason... Specific models are different

hearty fern
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Ya don't say

stoic island
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Quality doesn't go across the board

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Can't rely on just a brand or anything

hearty fern
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Hm, what's a tighter spread, evga, or the oem they use for a series?

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Way to miss the entire point

stoic island
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The exact model of the PSU

hearty fern
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Thank you for the different things are different lesson

stoic island
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Quality even differs in the same series

hearty fern
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Missed that lesson in primary

stoic island
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What

little osprey
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@austere condor I found you in another server

stoic island
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He sells in other servers iirc

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Or buys

austere condor
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post pictures of my builds in other servers too

hearty fern
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Did u pay $302 for that pc, if so what do u sell it at

stoic island
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He's really good at finding deals

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Consistently

hearty fern
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Hm, me, looks at $50 1800x, $50 fury, $50 fury x, $50 2 x58 12 phases.

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$50 cosmos se, $50 4820k, few $0 ssds

austere condor
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i'd expect to get at least $350 out of it, bout more around $400

hearty fern
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$50 x79 gigabyte

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Interesting

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Want to do a price to performance battle on your next build?

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I'll use a $90 r9 390 I bought

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A fury would be a cheap win.

austere condor
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i could Xfire my two RX Vega 56's

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and probably get better price/performance

hearty fern
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I'll do my 2 furies then. Gotta probably reinstall drivers tho, 3dmark is having a timing fit.

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I get 22k in fs at $290

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Last legit spy run was 7995

austere condor
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but using parts you've bought in the past or had once doesnt really count when you're in a price/performance build off

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have to go out and buy all the parts

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specifically for the competition

hearty fern
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I just bought all this stuff minus the psu in the last month

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Thats why I said next build

austere condor
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or i could just use all my insane deals and just crush everything

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🤷

hearty fern
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Like I said, next build.

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You seem a bit dense

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Ngl

austere condor
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you seem like you have a point to prove that no one cares about. 😂

hearty fern
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I simply asked if you wanted to do a price to performance contest on next build

austere condor
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rather unnecessarily hostile my dude.

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lol

hearty fern
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I'm waiting on someone to get their parts for an oc battle and am bored

austere condor
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good luck with that

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lol

hearty fern
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I mean, I'd tell you my numbers, but you'd find them hostile

austere condor
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so look, i have to be nice in this server, its best you uh, find something better to do before you get yourself in trouble

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lol

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ah good, back where you belong, not talking 😄

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uh oh, here he comes again

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lets see what he's got to say

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hope its smart

hearty fern
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Very polite, thought we could have a friendly contest and you turned it into this

austere condor
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or i will be dissapointed

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oh man

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he's still going

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lets see it

hearty fern
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I wanted a scrapyard wars and you wanted to be mean, ok then

austere condor
hearty fern
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Yeah, bc I clarified the ground rules

hearty fern
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Had to be fresh deals.

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Dang, I say one thing and you become this condescending

austere condor
hearty fern
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I really don't know what nerve I stepped on, but I'm sorry I said that you seemed a bit dense. The comment was situational and I thought that was self evident. I apologize that I misinterpreted its clarity and insulted you.

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Have a good day my dude.

little osprey
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@little osprey hows the cooling on that case

wispy matrix
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@mild roost monitors?

upper condor
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@scenic quiver

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This is better

scenic quiver
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thank you @upper condor thats much better.

mild roost
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I have a Asus 3D vision and an omen @wispy matrix

scenic quiver
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never used a fully modular psu before. does it come with the cabling?

upper condor
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Yes

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I have that psu, very nice

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And that ram

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And that cpu

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If youd like I can send some pictures in a couple minutes @scenic quiver

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Of the psu and cables

scenic quiver
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yeah sure! i love seeing inspiration.

upper condor
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Mk

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On train back to house so might be a while

mild roost
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Might replace omen with another asus 3D so it’s dimensions are correct and line up.

scenic quiver
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all goo, i got nothing but time, witing on ups man with my new-used gfx card.

upper condor
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It has plastic cables, but they have the same looks as sleeved

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What gpu?

scenic quiver
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well, my old GIGABYTE gtx980 decided to let it's smoke out, so a buddy sent me an EVGA gtx980ti

upper condor
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Nice

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The 980ti is underrated, its a very good card

scenic quiver
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im inclined to agree. mostly cause i got it for free, and ill say anything at this point haha

upper condor
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XD

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Same with me and my 5700XT, dont wanna admit driver issues

scenic quiver
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i'm getting mixed signals though. people have told me my old gpu is repairable, others say it's not and the repair would exceed the cost of the card. and i can't come to terms with trashing something i dumped $600 into four years ago.

upper condor
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Oo rip

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Its funny looking back on that

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Something so amazing 4 years ago is bad now

foggy hazel
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it is not bad

scenic quiver
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yeah, big double edged sword. i'll likely mount it in the first of a collection called the wall of shame.

foggy hazel
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and yes, it is most likely possible to fix it. However, if you dont have the knowledge yourself, it is not going to be cheap

scenic quiver
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correct.

foggy hazel
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and it is not exactly as if there are GPU repair people on every corner :)

scenic quiver
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I consider myself to be very skillful, but thinking baout fixing that gpu is daunting

foggy hazel
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"stuff" happens.

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yes, it sucks.

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but you can stand there looking at it forever, or you can move on :)

scenic quiver
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indeed it does. i wish i knew what caused my card to fry like it did. I'd love to prevent it in the future..

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but like you said, i moved on to a 980ti.. whenever it gets here lol.

foggy hazel
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last i had a gpu do something like what you described, i changed my psu after. Because i WAS pushing things

upper condor
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@foggy hazel what were you pushing?

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Crappy psu?

foggy hazel
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i was throwing a LOT of juice through some parts

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just for the heck of it

upper condor
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Nice?

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Sounds like you almost blew the psu up

foggy hazel
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-ish

scenic quiver
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also i have a concern with installing new hardware under current operating system. in the past with win7,8 i'd normally just reformat the drives, and reinstall windows with the corect key. but with windows 10, i don't know what i need to do, to install new hardware. more specifically new mobo,cpu, and ram.

foggy hazel
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it was a "lets settle this debate" kinda test of things

upper condor
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@scenic quiver it should be fine if using old hdd or ssd

scenic quiver
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so other than hardware drivers, i should be fine to upgrade?

upper condor
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I think

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Idk for certain

foggy hazel
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@scenic quiver is your win10 key a oem or a retail?

scenic quiver
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uhh i not sure i remember, one sec

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i am going to assume retail, because i bought it 4 years ago when i last upgraded.

foggy hazel
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okay

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is your windows account a local or an online one?

scenic quiver
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i believe online? connected to all my gaming and stuff too? forgive my noobishness lol

foggy hazel
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dont worry :)

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do the following

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winkey + your account info

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as you are typing that, an app should show up

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just select that

scenic quiver
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if i did what you said correct, it brought up my account info?

sudden turret
scenic quiver
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oh i see, it's an online account. cause it asks me if i would like to sign in with local.

foggy hazel
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@scenic quiver aye, and that detail was what we wanted to know :)

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now, things are nice and simple. you "only" need to know your account info. and you can install win10 on any machine

scenic quiver
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well that makes it really easy. okay thank you.

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome :)

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@cursive wharf no, you might type a lot, but you have to eat your spinach

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(yes, i see you lurking there, typing/plotting away)

cursive wharf
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@hearty fern So, you say that you should judge a PSU by OEM instead of the brand. What I just explained to you was how by just judging by OEM you can still get yourself a 💩 PSU. So, instead of judging by OEM, you judge each and every PSU individually.

foggy hazel
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ah, the daily "wrong, wrong, also wrong" rebuttal

scenic quiver
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i judge my purchased by the reviews. more notably the negative revierws

foggy hazel
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if you mean the customer reviews?

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those are generally fairly useless

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because people will leave reviews based on the complete experience

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not based on the product itself

cursive wharf
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Lol, you declined me typing before I even said anything Naed

scenic quiver
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well my backwards thinking hasn't let me down yet haha

foggy hazel
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@scenic quiver it is not backwards, it is a logical way of thinking. . The only challenge is how other people interact with it :)

scenic quiver
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This is true.

foggy hazel
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@cursive wharf i didnt decline your typing, i told you to eat your greens :P

cursive wharf
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Your first word was "no" tho

foggy hazel
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@scenic quiver consider how much more practical reviews could be, IF all the ones that give a low/high score because they had miraculously chosen the right part were not there.

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@cursive wharf "no, ....."

scenic quiver
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Hmm, good point.

cursive wharf
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I see that no as a declining no. May be a temp one due to just needing to eat my greens

foggy hazel
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its a comment on you trying to weasel out of eating your greens

stray pine
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bahahahaha

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could just try the command prompt dos approach for getting windows product key

cursive wharf
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FiNe dAD. IlL gO eAt mY GrEenS

stray pine
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i just had green beans. does that count

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and jalapenos

foggy hazel
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@stray pine IF you are using an online account anyway, there is no point in doing that :)

stray pine
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open command prompt and type this in exactly. and boom theres your key

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wmic path softwareLicensingService get OA3xOriginalProductKey

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online account?

foggy hazel
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yes.

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look at the Microsoft account part.

stray pine
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in waht situations would this even be used?

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what*

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ok so i read it and understand. still originally from whatever pc/laptop had the original install done for the product it can be found from there. basically with the help of onedrive it links all your stuff to other pc when logging in using your microsoft account.

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once youve activated the windows key to your email/microsoft account it stays with you.

shut rampart
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Can someone build me a $1000 gaming pc

wanton sail
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Thoughts on this? Raised my budget but would maybe like to keep it under 1900 with a headset added. Not sure im sold on a amd gpu so want a 2070 super i think and I like the mid size. Haven't moved into new place yet either so not sure if i need the wifi or not https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jNYRwh

shut rampart
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And I want to stream too

wanton sail
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Is that my best bet on price for a 1440p 144hz monitor?

viral ore
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Yeah, I think so

warped moat
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You can change the case out. It was just the first case I saw

shut rampart
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Were the WiFi

warped moat
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Just buy an add in card

shut rampart
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$20 for a WiFi card

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I think my pc is better

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Then this

warped moat
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What do you have rn

shut rampart
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$180

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For a montherbord with WiFi

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When there one for $140

warped moat
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It was an x570 chipset. Which is better for Ryzen 3rd gen

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And last I checked 1200$ isn’t the same as 1000$

shut rampart
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With the Montpellier

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Monitor

warped moat
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👌

shut rampart
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Plus I got this on Black Friday

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So it’s like $1100

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For the whole thing

warped moat
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Thats a nice price

shut rampart
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But if I were to upgrade

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Which one will go first

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I’m thinking the case

upper condor
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@shut rampart id say ram or cpu

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Theres no way that mobo costs that much

shut rampart
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It’s WiFi tho

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I also bought it for $120

viral ore
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Get an add-on card for that

upper condor
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And?

shut rampart
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Cuz back Friday

upper condor
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Add on cards are much better

shut rampart
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Didn’t I told you that

upper condor
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Oh didnt see

shut rampart
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Smh

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$100 montherbord

upper condor
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Mine was 1138$ with better stuff..... hmmmm

shut rampart
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With WiFi ( $20 )

little osprey
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What ram is good but cheap

upper condor
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@little osprey budget and cpu

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Intel or amd, actually

little osprey
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  1. Ryzen 7 2700
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Or ryzen 5 3600

foggy hazel
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@shut rampart is all you need from the mainboard wifi?

shut rampart
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Yha?

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I don’t get your question

upper condor
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@little osprey what is the whole build looking like

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@foggy hazel he already bought it all

shut rampart
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Yup

little osprey
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Im putting it together rn

foggy hazel
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nvm then

upper condor
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@little osprey i mean ur pcpp

foggy hazel
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just a waste of money

little osprey
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He has a 500 budget excluding the gpu

shut rampart
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What is a waste of money?

foggy hazel
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something you cannot change now :)

shut rampart
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My pic build?

upper condor
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The mobo

shut rampart
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$120 for a mobo?

stray pine
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yea @shut rampart thats a solid start for what youre askgin

shut rampart
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I think $120 is worth

stray pine
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theres always a b450 you can get for about that price

foggy hazel
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@wanton sail open for opinions?

shut rampart
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?

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What do you mean

foggy hazel
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@shut rampart it doesnt matter anymore, you have already purchased things.

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now you have to enjoy the choices :)

shut rampart
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So my pc is good?

foggy hazel
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if that is how you read it, have at it.

shut rampart
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How do you read it

stray pine
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what did you buy @shut rampart ?

scenic quiver
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usually from left to right, top to bottom.

shut rampart
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Can’t you read

stray pine
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theres a lot to read here. too much bantering to sift through lol

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i saw the part where someone made a parts list for your $1000 pc

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and that looked pretty solid. then i see you already bought parts?

foggy hazel
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@stray pine dont bother, he has indeed bought the parts. So there is no logical reason for the original question.

stray pine
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i guess so

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get caught on calls here at work and miss all the action lol

cursive wharf
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@shut rampart if you want to upgrade from then the get the R5 3600, ddr4 3600 RAM, and a 2060 or smth. If you're looking for better, prices will vary so kinda hard for even getting the same, before even thinking about an actual upgrade

foggy hazel
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@stray pine you missed the boy yelling wolf

cursive wharf
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@upper condor also the b450 Carbon Pro AC is worth its price

foggy hazel
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@cursive wharf only if you want/need what it offers.

cursive wharf
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Build quality wise it is. However whether it is worth it is subjective

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Cheapest board that has good onboard wifi, decent VRMs, good sound chip

upper condor
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@cursive wharf the 5700 XT is better than a 2060......

stray pine
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bahahahahahaaa

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just barely

cursive wharf
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@upper condor and they wanted to stream iirc

upper condor
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Still, stream of the 3600 then

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It is a lot better @stray pine

cursive wharf
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More stuttering

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Therefore worse experience

shut rampart
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Do I ask for a refund

upper condor
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For no streaming at least

shut rampart
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Of my pc

cursive wharf
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Because a 3600 isn't really too suitable for a truly great streaming experience on the average AAA game

shut rampart
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You scaring me

viral ore
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Wdym, the 3600 is fine

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Oh, I guess if your streaming off of it

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Do you know how much processor power streaming actually uses if you aren't using Nvidia?

cursive wharf
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A bit, but I'm more concerned over lows rather then average perf

viral ore
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Ahh

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Yeah

cursive wharf
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Average perf should be alright. Lows, don't think so

upper condor
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But for stuff besides streaming the 5700 XT is much better right

cursive wharf
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Yes

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If no annoying driver issues pop up

upper condor
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If you turn off enhanced sync it works fine

foggy hazel
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@upper condor i think @stray pine was answering me

stray pine
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barely a 10fps increase with 5700 over 2060

foggy hazel
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he was not

cursive wharf
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5700 non Xt?

foggy hazel
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XT @stray pine

upper condor
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5700 XT dude

stray pine
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ik thats what im talking about

upper condor
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Its a lot more than 10 fps

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Even the normal 5700, you can bios flash it to be similar to a 5700 XT now

shut rampart
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I think my pc is good

stray pine
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ooh wait. im looking at super 2060

shut rampart
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2060 vs 5700xt

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Xt win!

stray pine
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over the base model 2060 yes

upper condor
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Even over the 2060s

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Its still better

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And they are the same price

stray pine
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streaming wise i stand corrected the 2080 super is your best choice

upper condor
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Oh geez yeah and the rtx titan is the best gpu

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@stray pine obvs the 2080 super is better

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Its also 300$ more

stray pine
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IKR?

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this was fun guys we should do it again

wanton sail
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@foggy hazel sorry i was open to opinions went back to work lol this what I have now ordered most of it not sure if I got best Mobo but probably need wifi still looking for case and headset too. Had the thermaltake v200 with last build and had no issues just worried about air flow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P3TFmg

upper condor
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@wanton sail pls change ram

wanton sail
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@upper condor whats wrong with that ram lol heard good things

upper condor
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Theres better

wanton sail
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Like

foggy hazel
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@wanton sail your headset will that be usb or minijack?

upper condor
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Timings are 1 lower oh nooooo

foggy hazel
#

will you be going with a standalone mic or?

wanton sail
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@foggy hazel I usually just run a headset with mic still looking for a good one that doesnt break bank and works with setup

foggy hazel
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so, that is basically something usb based then

wanton sail
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Last one was minijack and liked it but want one more comfortable vut sound as good for probably $80 or so

foggy hazel
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okay

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next question.

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It does not look like you are planning to OC. Is that right?

wanton sail
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Not really

foggy hazel
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give me a moment then :)

mossy pine
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Hi. Whats better? Intel or amd?

lyric thistle
foggy hazel
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@wanton sail this does the same for you, for less

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and yes, i have not changed the ssd, you can keep that if you want. I am nor personally a fan, but that does not make it into a bad drive [edit: clarification]

mossy pine
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Ok so i take it amd is better

wanton sail
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@mossy pine Intel

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@mossy pine know you are baiting but amd has caught up so really depends what you're talking about but in nost cases Intel better but amd bargain for close

upper condor
#

@wanton sail tf you talking about? AMD is better on pretty much every front

mossy pine
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Ok so i have an old pc. Has amd athlon 64 3800+ 2.40ghz and i want to build a new computer

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Its been 20 years since i done that tho

upper condor
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Ok

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Budget?

foggy hazel
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@mossy pine 14-ish years. not 20

mossy pine
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Trying to stay around 5-600

wanton sail
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@foggy hazel whats big difference between that mobo and one i had thats big difference

mossy pine
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20 since i built my pentium 3 450 mhz

wanton sail
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@mossy pine then yeah youll be buying all amd

mossy pine
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And it outperformed newer computers for about 6 years

foggy hazel
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that was a weird thing to build in the late pentium 4 era @mossy pine

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@wanton sail cheaper and does the same thing.

mossy pine
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Maybe a bit longer not sure tho lol like 1997 i think i had to replace the board so i souped it

foggy hazel
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1997 is about right

wanton sail
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@foggy hazel thanks lol mobo was what i was confused about

foggy hazel
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@wanton sail other changes are basically, better psu for less, better ram for less

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all in all, more for less.

mossy pine
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Ok so i want something new thats gonna be ahead for a bit like my p3 was

foggy hazel
#

not happening at that budget

mossy pine
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So with all the cores and stuff whats good for it. Kinda light on gameing but nothing too intense all my games are old

foggy hazel
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and i am not trying to be mean, just being realistic.

mossy pine
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Probably not even gaming lol

foggy hazel
#

IF you just want a machine for doing random tasks, a APU is a good/decent call

mossy pine
#

I knowbi can go to walmart and get a decent pc but its still kinda junk also

foggy hazel
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APU = the amd version of a cpu with an integrated graphics card

mossy pine
#

Ok which is? Whats basically standard for today technology

foggy hazel
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it is not fast, but it works

mossy pine
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What do u mean not fast

foggy hazel
#

there are limits to what you can get at that price.

#

that machine is hitting those limits

mossy pine
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So what is considered fast

wanton sail
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At the price you're talking you would get a APU like a mobile or console cpu gpu combo not high end but cheap gaming

foggy hazel
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a standalone graphicscard, BUT, that is an item that only really becomes relevant IF you have the need for it

mossy pine
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That's 3.7ghz compared to 2.40

foggy hazel
#

yes, it is "fast" vs what you have

mossy pine
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Plus 4 cores

foggy hazel
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but it is not fast vs what else is available

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it is not "fast" in the sense that the p3-450 was compared to the other products on the market at the time

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and yes, i remember, quite clearly how that one stomped around.

stoic island
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It's "fast" compared to what you have, but not "fast" compared to what people like us have

mossy pine
#

So what whould be recommended as fast but not new and top of the line

foggy hazel
#

before i answer that (i will happily answer it)

stoic island
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That's not new and not top of the line.

mossy pine
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I know i do nt need a hardcore gaming pc

foggy hazel
#

let me ask you a couple of questions first

mossy pine
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Ok

foggy hazel
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what kind of games do you actually play?

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and what kind of stuff do you do on your machine aside from games?

mossy pine
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On pc? Like i said there old like baldur's gate II vampire brave frontier.

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Basic internet or download videos and music and burn movies

foggy hazel
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so, early 00', mid 00' and stuff like that

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?

mossy pine
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Yes i think. But kids might want to play fornite or something newer if it coukd do it

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Not really sure whats needed

foggy hazel
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we can find something that could do that

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would you be opposed to the system being fairly small?

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as in, physically

mossy pine
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As long as it performs well no

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But if its smaller i dont know if i can build it lol

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I know the old stuff not the new

foggy hazel
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dont worry, things are way easier now

mossy pine
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Ok

foggy hazel
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i say that as someone who built back then, and still build now

mossy pine
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Last i knew they were just about to come out with pci-e lol

foggy hazel
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we are on the 4th gen of that now :)

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do you need/want wifi?

mossy pine
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I know things changed lol

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Yes wifi is a must lol

foggy hazel
#

np

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give me 5-10 minutes and i will have 2 suggestion lists for you @mossy pine

mossy pine
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Ok

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Will it include a dvd burner?

foggy hazel
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it can

mossy pine
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Burning and encoding movies is soo slow for me with what i have

foggy hazel
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:)

wispy matrix
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I don’t burn and encode movies

foggy hazel
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@mossy pine okay, finally got things working as i wanted.

#

keep in mind, prices are quite different between these two build

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and it is not only performance related

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both of them have a fair deal of overlap in parts, but there are expenses in the small build, that would not be there IF things go slightly bigger, but that is not really relevant, it is a ballpark estimate that is "close enough"

cursive wharf
#

Team L5 Lite 3D 480GB is also $55

foggy hazel
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being picky about the parts etc is not that relevant at the moment

cursive wharf
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I'd take the extra storage over the NVMe as usually if you need it you'd be getting a bigger NVMe

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But eh, just me being picky

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As per usual

foggy hazel
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not really, it is a relevant point, and i do agree, i use that drive because it hits about the price point i wanted reserved for storage

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as i mentioned, ballpark estimate :)

cursive wharf
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Yeah

foggy hazel
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(difference is a different case that enables use of the stock cooler instead)

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also @mossy pine the small build is about double the performance of the other one

rich void
#

Any particular reason for a 2600 over a 1600AF? I thought they were very similar, and saving like $35 on CPU seems like it could be worth it

lime forge
#

2600 more recent, it works with x570

rich void
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Technically 1600af is more recent and shares 2600 architecture though doesn't it?

lime forge
#

wait

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whats the 1600af

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lololol

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i had no idea that existed

foggy hazel
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its the die harvested replacement

rich void
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Basically a 2600 for $85 I think. Released relatively recently

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BUT I would love to know if my impression is wrong, not an expert

foggy hazel
#

it is not "quite" a 2600, but kinda

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for most people, it is close enough.

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but the price of it jumps all over the place.

lime forge
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so slightly slower than 2600

foggy hazel
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and as i said earlier, those lists are ballpark estimates

deep skiff
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its a lower clocked 2600

lunar bane
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@foggy hazel question

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Im currently installing the motherboard but the stand off is slightly off but not much is it fine or no?

cursive wharf
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So long as the standoff isnt touching a circuit on the board

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you're good

lunar bane
wanton sail
#

@foggy hazel back to build you sent always get worried about mobo cpu compatibity. Is it goinf to be compatible out of box or ia it one ill have to use a usb to flash bios for it to work

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Yeah thats fine

foggy hazel
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@lunar bane nothing to worry about

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@wanton sail you would have to find the one retailer that has stock that is 9+ months old

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in other words, it is not something i would worry about at this point.

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IF you want to make certain, send the retailer you are buying from a message where you ask them about the age of the stock.

wanton sail
#

K thanks

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome :)

wispy matrix
#

Need help building a gaming pc (1200 budget)

foggy hazel
#

again?

wispy matrix
#

Yeah I lost my link plus I’m bored

foggy hazel
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use the search button.

wispy matrix
#

I almost fainted

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Lol

wanton sail
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Lol

wispy matrix
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No I got my ear drained

lime forge
#

@mild roost wanna move here so we dont have two convos going on in general?

mild roost
#

Sure

lime forge
#

alright

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so

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this is my rough diagram

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of what your case's mounting points for fans and radiators looks like

mild roost
#

What case do you have?

lime forge
#

Corsair Carbide 275r

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so

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the AIO that you had selected in your build is a 240mm AIO

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the only possible mounting point for it would be the front

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like that

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now for about $160, you could get a 360mm AIO which will fill up all 3 spaces to make it look a little less awkward if that makes sense

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only issue is that the 360mm AIO that corsair has does not include RGB fans

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crap, nevermind

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its $190

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i was in the same situation as you, i had the 240mm aio but only space to mount it in the front

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youll notice this space down here is empty

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not a super big deal

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but just something i wanted to point out

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especially with that mesh panel in the front, it might look a bit weird only having 2 fans

mild roost
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I thought it would be able to fit up top. I should probably do more research on building pc’s. And research on the parts

foggy hazel
#

yes

lime forge
#

i was exactly the same haha

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the specs for my case said that it would fit a 240mm aio up top

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so i tried

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and it turns out it does fit, if you dont have a motherboard 🙃

foggy hazel
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feel free to ask, just dont be offended if the result is that you get told to read a bunch of articles :)

mild roost
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Eee, u don’t need a mobo, that’s just a useless part lol

lime forge
#

exactly.

foggy hazel
#

the more precisely you can ask, the easier it is for us to help you

tranquil dust
#

speaking of motherboards

lime forge
foggy hazel
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but, that can also be a double edged sword.

lime forge
#

im just making a couple modifications to make the build a bit cheaper without sacrificing looks/performance

foggy hazel
#

i know @lime forge (thank you thou:) )

lime forge
#

alright

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for which processor arctic

tranquil dust
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r5 2600

sacred obsidian
#

first one arctic

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i have it its awesome

tranquil dust
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i plan to go from matx to atx

lime forge
#

whatever is cheaper lol

foggy hazel
#

neither of them @tranquil dust

tranquil dust
#

tomahawk is cheaper

mild roost
#

I was looking at the Corsair crystal case, which is a beast of case and huge but I think it’ll fit on top. But it’s like $100 more

lime forge
#

if youre not overclocking, a motherboard is a motherboard

tranquil dust
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i am ocing

foggy hazel
#

@tranquil dust what cooler?

tranquil dust
#

uh

#

hold

sacred obsidian
#

at microcenter the asus is 110 rn Squirtlederp

lime forge
#

@mild roost if i were you, id save that extra $100 and put it towards a 360mm AIO to fit up front in the case you were planning to get to fill up all three spaces just like this

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it will look fantastic

foggy hazel
#

@tranquil dust this is a new build right? you dont have any of the parts yet?

lime forge
#

especially if you go for some RGB fans

tranquil dust
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no i have it built

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wait

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wrong link

lime forge
#

we need a build chat 2 lol

sacred obsidian
#

lmao

tranquil dust
foggy hazel
#

yes @lime forge we do :)

tranquil dust
#

i wanna go from matx to atx

foggy hazel
#

i will move with @tranquil dust

lime forge
#

i think its more of an issue with people not using the channels under computer hardware tbh

#

this chat is just a go to

foggy hazel
lime forge
#

and it works for most people lol

tranquil dust
#

okay

lime forge
#

thanks naed

foggy hazel
#

likewise @lime forge

mild roost
#

So when I build it, I would have to take out the old fans that are built into it. And then also can I switch the fans from the case with the fans from aio to get the rgb? Or are the aio fans in place and can’t switch out

sacred obsidian
#

you should be able to interchange the fans as long as they are same size which i bleieve they are

lime forge
#

for the AIO, yes

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im just not sure if those stock phantecks fans will be strong enough to cool the radiator

mild roost
#

So should I get 3 Corsair 120 mm fans, that are like $80 I think

sacred obsidian
#

but you could just have it set up like zacks pc, have the fans on the back side of radiator (facing mobo) and the rgb light shines on all the components

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doesnt have to be corsair if you dont want but thats up to you lol

mild roost
#

True but I have a thing for Corsair 😉

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Lol

sacred obsidian
#

fair enough then lol

mild roost
#

I have a shrine , I need shelving tho to put above my setup. And I want to change the paint color but I ain’t spending money for a room when I’m gonna move out soon

sacred obsidian
#

your uh

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your roof seems to be saggin

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wait is that like a sheet? or a tarp? or somethin?

#

i like corsair's product i just dont buy em cause they pricey lol

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the only company i am woefully against is razer tho

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also if you can do it, brand synergy is Chef_Kiss

foggy hazel
#

meh

sacred obsidian
#

i personally love brand synergy. i just dont do it cause its expensive lol

mild roost
#

That a roof, I’m in unfinished basement and the house owners just stapled up sheets

foggy hazel
#

brand synergy is giving yourself a reach-around imo

sacred obsidian
#

okay i thoguht it was a sagging roof cause it was water damaged and at risk for falling lol

mild roost
#

No but I wouldn’t doubt that happening in this house, this house is badly built. When it rains hard, rain gets through and it started dripping water in the lights and in the smoke detector lol.

cursive wharf
#

I would avoid Corsair mice tho

little osprey
#

Anyone know if the gigabyte b450 pro WiFi comes with bios update out of box ?

cursive wharf
#

Depends on seller

little osprey
#

Newegg?

cursive wharf
#

Most do, but not all as some may have old stock

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So you have to contact them and ask

little osprey
#

Alright I’ll do that thanks

cursive wharf
#

Also good choice on mobo

mild roost
#

@cursive wharf my Corsair mouse does well, it has a high dpi. I have my last dpi setting to the highest dpi and it’s like the speed of light with a little move of my mouse

stoic island
#

Welll

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Dpi isn't the only thing that matters lol

sacred obsidian
#

guys, one, the mouse is fine, 2, he already bought

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3, brand synergy

stoic island
#

Just saying

cursive wharf
#

My Corsair mouse is eh, 5 months in and had to do a good cleaning of the mouse wheel despite being decently clean. My dad has gone through two Corsair mice recently both of which had left click failing

stoic island
#

Tryna right some wrongs

sacred obsidian
#

yeah but ive had issues like that across a long range of mice.

mild roost
#

Are u sure he didn’t rage and brake it lol. I admit that I have broken some stuff by raging

cursive wharf
#

No, just high failure rates

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I can say Corsair use to be good. But now they aren't really that good on perif

little osprey
#

What mobo comes with the bios update and is compatible with the amd 5 3600 because I’m uncertain if that one will have the bios update and don’t have a old cpu to upgrade the bios either .

#

ATX MOBO

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey we have been over this already :)

little osprey
#

Yeah but most reviews I’ve seen that are recent are saying they had to update it

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From Newegg and amazon

foggy hazel
#

remember when i said to contact the retailer?

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or did you just forget that part?

little osprey
#

I did Newegg said they are uncertain and said that it only says it supports the older CPU’s

foggy hazel
#

which board did you end up with?

little osprey
#

The gigabyte b450 pro WiFi

foggy hazel
#

B450 AORUS PRO WIFI <- ? that or

little osprey
#

Yea

foggy hazel
#

you have to get stock that is about 9+ month old, for it NOT to be supported

little osprey
#

Yeah Ik but those reviews on it were from this month and last month that’s why I’m kinda concerned because I’d have no way to update it

foggy hazel
#

i must admit, i am disappointed that newegg has that bad inventory handling.

#

do you have the transcript from the talk @little osprey ?

little osprey
#

I do not I actually just got done talking with them a sec ago tho

foggy hazel
#

did you close the window yet?

little osprey
#

Guy wasn’t much help and yea I did

foggy hazel
#

hm

stoic island
#

naed you could try a chat

little osprey
#

He recommended a 300$ mobo lmao

stoic island
#

see it firsthand

foggy hazel
#

i am

stoic island
#

alr

#

Give us the details once you're done :D

little osprey
stoic island
#

ew
team ram

#

could you spend like 10$ more for faster ram?

little osprey
#

Was recommended by my boy Naed

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And what’s the point if mobo can’t do those speeds

stoic island
#

or is it that tight

foggy hazel
#

price shifts etc @stoic island

little osprey
#

I already bought the ram and case

stoic island
#

oh

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rip

#

also memory speed is dependent on CPU not mobo lol

#

my B450 mobo is currently sporting some trident z neo 3600mhz ram

little osprey
#

It is what it is can always upgrade in the future this is gonna be my first build ever so you live and learn lol

stoic island
#

my first ram was some team vulcan ram

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bad experience

#

hope for the best I guess

little osprey
#

Yeah we will see hopefully there’s no issue

#

Find anything out @foggy hazel ?

foggy hazel
#

just got connected now

little osprey
#

Okay

foggy hazel
#

you gotten the transcript from your talk yet? @little osprey

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or didnt you tick the box?

little osprey
#

No I can’t get it I was on a tab from Facebook and I’m on my phone

foggy hazel
#

kk

little osprey
#

What did they say to you?

foggy hazel
#

still talking with them

wraith charm
#

hello can anyone let me know if the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI is compatible with my gskill 3600mhz ram?? lmao motherboard i previously bought wasnt, it was asus b450m

foggy hazel
#

that sounds ... odd ...

little osprey
#

It should

#

It will work

wraith charm
#

it was too high of hz on the last one, read ddr4 and thought i was good lmao

#

thank u for clarifying

foggy hazel
#

also, please have a bit of patience with your question :) we are not watching all the channels all the time :)

wraith charm
#

ah word thanks i tried looking on the motherboard page and it didnt say but thats good dude thanks!!

little osprey
#

Go to link

foggy hazel
#

(aka, please delete the question in #cpus-mobo-and-memory, so that someone else doesnt start working on it)

wraith charm
#

good call haha

little osprey
#

I’m not 100% if I’m right because I’m a noob myself

wraith charm
#

nah it says right there bro!! haha

foggy hazel
#

thank you @wraith charm

little osprey
#

Alright man glad I could help

wraith charm
#

it was either get a better motherboard or get different ram, and well i dont want to downgrade to worse ram lmao

little osprey
#

Exactly lol I might look into that mobo honestly

wintry dragon
#

anyone got recommendations for a triple monitor stand?

little osprey
#

@wintry dragon I do not sorry

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey i would not worry about the bios, based on the talk.

little osprey
#

Alright man

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I’ll just hope for the best when ordering

foggy hazel
#

aye

little osprey
#

You know any others that are compatible just in case for a backup

foggy hazel
#

not with the same feature set at a reasonable price

little osprey
#

If it doesn’t have WiFi that’s fine I can always just get a USB adapter . I might go get some stuff from my local Best Buy

foggy hazel
#

you mean, potentially get a mainboard from bestbuy?

little osprey
#

Possibly but I might pick up that cpu from Best Buy they have it for 175

foggy hazel
#

and that one has the advantage of NOT needing a cpu for doing a potential bios update

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@little osprey see above

little osprey
#

@foggy hazel Thanks again man I appreciate you 🙌🏻

foggy hazel
#

anytime :)

sharp blaze
#

Ryzen 2700 or 2700x?

cosmic pier
#

So question, I just installed a ryzen 7 2700x, and my computer is doing one long and two short beeps, I've tried removing the GPU re seating it, then tried with the dimm, that didn't work so I'm lost on what to do, even if I put my ryzen 3 cpu back in it still gives me the same code.

sacred obsidian
#

what mobo

lunar bane
#

@foggy hazel really thank you for helping, got mah pc ported and booted yeet

#

With those 250 fps on Minecraft LOL

foggy hazel
#

@lunar bane you are very welcome :)

#

enjoy the machine :)

south hawk
#

did u check he ram? @cosmic pier

#

like put it in a diff pc

#

kinda sounds like either your motherboard, bios or ram.

#

did u just build the pc or have u been using it

wispy matrix
#

What the difference between the prebuilt and diy

sudden turret
#

really? lol

upper condor
#

@wispy matrix price, more customizable if done yourself

cosmic pier
#

Yeah one ram was bad

stoic island
#

Anyways @foggy hazel what was the results of the talk? About the mobos in wegg's inventory?

sterile quest
#

What's better, an i5-8300h with a gtx 1050 or ryzen 5 3550h with a gtx 1650? For a laptop btw already have a pc

#

I'm leaning towards the 3550h with the 1650 since it's only 25 bucks more but want other people's input

sudden turret
#

ryzen

sterile quest
#

Though so ty

lofty swan
#

Good build?

stoic island
#

yous sure you need 32gb or ram?

#

@lofty swan

#

annnnnd they're gone

lofty swan
#

I dont know

#

I just wanted some

#

xd

sudden turret
#

16 is the norm

stoic island
#

Do you currently have workloads that need more than 16gb?

lofty swan
#

no

#

but I would like to have some

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just becuase

stoic island
#

Do you plan on having workloads that will use more than 16gb?

sudden turret
#

just to fill the slots?

lofty swan
#

yes

sudden turret
#

corsair and Aorus make dummy 'light kits' to fill the slots 🙂

#

I have the corsair ones.

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it's great

lofty swan
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lights?

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ew

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no lights

sudden turret
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get out.

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GET OUT

lofty swan
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xD

sudden turret
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😄

stoic island
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join the gang

lofty swan
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lmao

stoic island
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we dont need no RGB for performance

lofty swan
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I dont know any more

sudden turret
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I SAID GIT

lofty swan
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How much is in a HP Laptop

sudden turret
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take Mr1 with you

lofty swan
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ram()

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like 8?

stoic island
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you can check in task manager

lofty swan
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Well

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This is not mine

stoic island
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huh?

lofty swan
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Using a diffrent one

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dabb

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3994

stoic island
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what do you do on PC?

lofty swan
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total

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Code and game

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and live stream

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all at the same time

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(jk xd)

stoic island
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you could at the same time >:)

lofty swan
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OwO

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That would be sicckkk

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That would be 200Sad

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Nvidia + MSI == "good for everything"

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right?

stoic island
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meh

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depends on exact thing

lofty swan
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I want my pc to be good for a long time

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no upgrades for a long time

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Would that be fine?

stoic island
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Well Moore's law is slowing down

lofty swan
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Thats why I have 32g

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whats that?

stoic island
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like computers getting 2x better every 2 years

lofty swan
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crap

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Well thats fine

stoic island
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"Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every two years."

lofty swan
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I just want to play new games

stoic island
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yea

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anyways lemme fix up a build

lofty swan
stoic island
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hmm

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you really 'Need' a SSD nowadays

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so I'll try to fit one in

lofty swan
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yay

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under 1k would be dope

stoic island
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mhm

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RN I fit a 2070s and 3600 in there

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but might need to downgrade a lil to a 2060s or smth

lofty swan
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o

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how much of a gap is there?

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not much?

stoic island
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if you look at the list

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its at 994$ xD

lofty swan
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xD

stoic island
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so might need to downgrade one of the comps a lil to fit in an ssd

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wait how much storage do you need?

lofty swan
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2T

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or 1T?

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I dont know

stoic island
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How much do you use rn?

lofty swan
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500m

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on a taptop

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But

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Thats with out games and stuff

stoic island
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hmm

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I think you could get away with a 512gb nvme ssd for now, and you can get more later on if you need to

lofty swan
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lit

stoic island
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now
where to get some savings off this list to fit in enough for an ssd XD

lofty swan
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Rainbow Six, GTAV, CSGO might be main games

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xd

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Ark too

stoic island
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those take like 250gb or so total

lofty swan
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only 250?

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Could I download windows on the ssd and chose a diffrent one for Apps and stuff?

stoic island
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siege is 70gb for sure, gta 100gb I believe, csgo closer to 10gb, ark idrk so putting 70gb

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wdym?

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yea if you get a different ssd you can plug it in for more storage

lofty swan
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download windows 10 on SSD then games on the 2T thingy and apps

stoic island
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well

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hmm

cursive wharf
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480gb SATA SSD is only $55

stoic island
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that is true

lofty swan
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Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

stoic island
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but as you know I dont like TEAM products xD

lofty swan
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thats it

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512 for everything I do

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    Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
stoic island
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I'm tryna figure out how to fit in more idk tho

lofty swan
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I would like a 2t

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do I really need a ssd?

stoic island
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aw shoot

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that mobo might not support 3rd gen

cursive wharf
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Some things to change

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When are you buying?

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I would change mobo, but one I want to pick is out of stock

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Plus few other things

stoic island
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yea idk what to change that mobo to

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I just know Naed likes that one for the sound chip

cursive wharf
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But, what is your main choice of a sound system. Headset or speakers. Whichever one, is it a 3.5mm jack or USB for input

lofty swan
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check that

cursive wharf
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Few other reasons, two M2 ports is what I also remember

lofty swan
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Might have to go BC class is starting

stoic island
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Hei Ima leave it to you

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I keep forgetting which mobo is good

cursive wharf
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@lofty swan do you mainly use headset or speakers? Which ever one it is, USB or 3.5mm audio jack for input?

lofty swan
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both

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USB is my head set

upper condor
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@lofty swan id just use the stock cooler, wraith prism is very good

lofty swan
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stock cooler?

cursive wharf
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So then you'd benefit from a good sound chip

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If using speakers

lofty swan
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would that be the motherboard?

cursive wharf
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Yes

lofty swan
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I though I had a good one

foggy hazel
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@lofty swan let me just answer the SSD question: Yes. there is NO doubt at all, that you actually NEED the ssd. IF you have to sacrifice something else? you do it.

lofty swan
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OOooo thanks

upper condor
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You could lower the ssd though, thats a very good one

lofty swan
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its 500mb

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gb

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or whatever

cursive wharf
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x470 prime pro does. But you can get a cheaper board with it

foggy hazel
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the m-atx seems to be jumping in and out of stock Hei

upper condor
lofty swan
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Coool

upper condor
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I dont mean the capacity, I mean the quality

cursive wharf
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Yeah, little bit before I asked for date of purchasing. Not answered yet

lofty swan
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I would like a 2070

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or to much?

foggy hazel
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not happening

lofty swan
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oof

foggy hazel
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at least not if you want to be below 1000?

upper condor
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Whats the max budget?

lofty swan
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1k

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or a 2060

cursive wharf
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You can fit a 2070S if you leave out say the 2tb HDD. Mr1 put a list out that could use some modifications for it

lofty swan
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this good?

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above 1k

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a little

cursive wharf
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When is date of purchasing for this build?

lofty swan
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ummm

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not for awhile

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like mouths

foggy hazel
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dont bother then :)

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come back when you are closer

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2-3 weeks away at the max

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not that we dont want to talk about it, but it is mostly academic at this point [edit: mostly]

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out of curiosty @cursive wharf how does the GD psu stack up at that price?

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yes? no ? okay?

cursive wharf
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Not that good afaik. No real testing done, but it does miss UVP I think it is. Which from my understanding is a bit more important then say missing OTP and actually is truly useful