#building-and-recc-chat

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regal forge
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What ever is better for you

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Lets do pm so I can keep it if thats fine

foggy hazel
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no problem at all :)

regal forge
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and its easy for me to find for future refrence

little osprey
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@little osprey there is the o11 dynamic xl

upper condor
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Think so

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Best 1080p 144hz card for cheap?

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Ultra on less demanding games

teal bison
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probably 5700

upper condor
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5700XT would work right

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@little osprey just realised you got a titan rtx

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That single piece is worth more than my whole setup will be.

teal bison
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ya XT would allow higher settings

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with the 5700 you would probably have to turn the settings down a bit to like high on modern games

upper condor
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Vamps pls donate your titan to me

little osprey
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@upper condor its a workstation rig so my cpu is proby worth more than your setup

upper condor
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It barely is

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Shush

little osprey
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3990x upgrade will be tho D :

upper condor
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Bruh you're gonna?

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64 cores thats insane

little osprey
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i already have mine paid for at local retailer who getting shipment

dapper sinew
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Anyone know about my ram support question

upper condor
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No sorry

little osprey
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still looking for new case tho

foggy hazel
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@dapper sinew give me a moment

dapper sinew
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Thanks. @foggy hazel

little osprey
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thoughts?

teal bison
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any specific reason for intel?

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and do you plan on streaming?

foggy hazel
teal bison
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@little osprey
ryzen has better 1% lows and is cheaper plus a cheaper mobo. unless you are streaming the 5700 XT is better value. kept all your rgb stuff but switched the ram to corsair so you could sync it with your fans, but you can change that back if you'd like although adata doesnt have 3200 speed ram

little osprey
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@teal bison my Mobo isn't compatible with amd

teal bison
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oh i figured you were buying that all new

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didnt know you already had some of the parts

little osprey
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the mobo I'm getting isn't compatible

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the only hardware/software I have on hand is the storage and os

teal bison
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so you have already bought the mobo then?

little osprey
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not yet

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I haven't bought any yet, the storage and os are from my current laptop

teal bison
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oh well im saying that the 3600/b450 is better value than the i5/z390

little osprey
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true, but then I'd have to get a different Mobo

teal bison
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the list i sent has a b450

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i dont think we are on the same page

little osprey
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oh sorry, didn't see the link

teal bison
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ooh lol

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all good lol

thorny wing
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sorry to butt in, I have a question about the b450 with a 3600. Does the b450 need a bios update to use the 3600?

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I was looking at the 3600 recently

little osprey
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there's a lot of compatibility issues with that build dragocor

teal bison
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if the stock is old then yes, but the tomahawk max is guaranteed to have the bios updated

little osprey
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A LOT

foggy hazel
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@thorny wing depends on the age of the stock. in general, just ask the retailer about it, they will be happy to tell you.

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@little osprey nothing weird about those. they are not something to worry about.

teal bison
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the red warning isnt correct, and ill try to find a shorter gpu if you need the drive bays

thorny wing
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ty guys 😄

foggy hazel
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@thorny wing added benefit of asking the retailer is that IF you get sent something that doesnt work (because it has an old bios) you have the answer from the retailer, which helps speed up the return process

thorny wing
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sometimes PC part picker is wonky about sizes. I fit a H7 with 145mm height in a thermaltake core v1 that supposedly only supports up to 140mm. The website tells me it wont fit, but it does with like ~2mm to spare

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good point naed

foggy hazel
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because funky things can happen in a warehouse :)

thorny wing
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warehouses aren't delicate, I've seen 😦

foggy hazel
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consumers underestimate how much of a beating their "precious" parts can take

thorny wing
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I dropped my ram in its box, I was so scared LOL

foggy hazel
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:)

thorny wing
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no problems though

foggy hazel
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if you want to see a consumer get white in the face from fear, just slap them with their newly purchased 4tb 2.5inch ssd

thorny wing
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ooooh I like these m.2 drives a lot, I've only known about them for like a year

foggy hazel
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mind, i am not talking about a m.2 :)

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and yes, m.2 are nice

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makes cabling etc much cleaner

thorny wing
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I know haha, I was so excited to not need extra cables

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..... there was a seal over the M.2 drive's screw hole that I definitely wasn't smarter than

foggy hazel
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:)

thorny wing
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I thought for sure that the threads were messed up on the screw, my eyes are getting older

foggy hazel
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:)

little osprey
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if I take an hhd from my laptop that has windows 10 64 bit home on it and put it on a different Mobo, will it still work properly?

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trying to save money lol

peak hearth
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Hey guys, I need some help

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So, here is the situation

teal bison
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ya it should @little osprey

thorny wing
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@teal bison @little osprey will he have to update the drivers in safe mode if he plans on booting from it?

teal bison
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i wouldnt imagine but i dont really know

peak hearth
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So, my grandparents need a new PC. They got an old PCGHIA-1021 from who knows when, and asked me to get them a new one. My original plan was to simply build a low-mid range PC so I can game a bit when I'm over visiting them and call it a day, but it ocured me... Is it possible to build a Low Profile PC inside the old Ghia chasis??

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My main concern is the Mobo and the GPU

teal bison
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what are they using it for?

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i imagine just web browsing and stuff like that

peak hearth
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Mainly video stuff and my younger cousins like to use it as well to try to game a bit

teal bison
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but maybe your grandparents are hardcore gamers i dont judge

peak hearth
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XD

teal bison
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what kind of games do the like to play?

peak hearth
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I'm building it more for me and my cousins, and my grandparents know it. And Fortnite is the main one

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Maybe I'd download a bit of my Steam library so they could try other stuff

teal bison
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and what is your budget?

peak hearth
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Don't really have one

teal bison
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oh ok so 2080ti and 3990x?

little osprey
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LMAO

teal bison
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jk lol

peak hearth
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Nah, maybe 1500 would be the max

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But as I said, not trying to build anything fancy

teal bison
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ok wow thats a lot more than i was expecting

thorny wing
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yeah that's a healthy budget lol

peak hearth
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What I'm most interested in is if I can build it in the old chasis

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I'm not good at modding

teal bison
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USD right? not like Zimbabwe dollars?

thorny wing
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you can get the mobo into that case, I can't find pictures of the back of it lol

peak hearth
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USD, yeah

thorny wing
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unless they're all proprietary

teal bison
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i assume they have the sff case?

peak hearth
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Size of original Mobo is 125x70cm

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Yup, SFF

teal bison
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do you know the gpu clearance?

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on their webpage they have a gpu in it that is 146mm so i assume its probably just over that but idk if they just got a gpu that happened to be small

peak hearth
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Mine didn't come with a GPU. It has the regular 70mm LP Expansión Slot

teal bison
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well i figure we'd upgrade the mobo anyways but is there a way for you to measure the length from one side of the case to the other?

peak hearth
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Useful space looks about 245mm

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Beyond that is the space for the PSU

teal bison
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245? from side to side right?

peak hearth
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Yeah

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I mean, total is about 380mm, but as I said, the PSU blocks some of that space so the free one is 245

teal bison
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ok cool that makes it a lot easier

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and what framerate/res are you trying to hit?

peak hearth
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Not sure. Probably 1080p, 60FPS at Medium

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Was considering one of the GTX1650 LP GPUs

teal bison
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oh really? ok we can definately go a lot lower than 1500 if you want, or if you want to try to get the most performance that you can we can do that too

peak hearth
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But since I'm not even sure what kind of Mobo I can put in since I don't know if it's mATX or ITX size...

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1500 was for a new build

teal bison
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do you know if that motherboard is proprietary? because if it is you would probably have to do some modding or just get a new case

peak hearth
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I was considering something like an mATX B450 Mobo, a Ryzen 5 2600X, 16GB kit of RAM, an M.2 SSD, the GTX 1650 Low Profile GPU and a Corsair SF600

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This is the OG mobo

teal bison
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ok but you dont mind getting a new case?

thorny wing
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that mobo is mATX

peak hearth
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I don't mind a new case. Just thought it would be a fun project to try to build it inside of the old case

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Yeah, it says it's an mATX but for some reason I have my doubts... It looks more compact than other mATX I've seen

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Usually mATXs are more square, this is more of a rectangle

teal bison
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yeah it looks pretty elongated

thorny wing
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yeah, it's 225mm x 170mm

teal bison
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idk if you can do it without some modding

peak hearth
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You know, now that I look at the case, it does seem to include the mounting holes for a full 244x244mm mATX

teal bison
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oh well that changes everything

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lol

peak hearth
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It's just that they were in a hollow part under the 5" bay

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But they are there, just that the space actually goes below it

teal bison
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and do you live in the US?

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Its alright if you dont want to answer just some parts may not be available/may be more expensive

peak hearth
little osprey
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what's that white square under the G41T?

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I've seen them before, have no idea what they are

thorny wing
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heat sink

little osprey
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ahhh

teal bison
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tell me what you think

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oh you wanted an nvme tho

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ill put that in the list

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also do you want new fans?

thorny wing
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get some RGB for grandma and grandpa :P

teal bison
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lol

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some corsair icues

peak hearth
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Live in Mexico. I'm used to parts being way more expensive, but lately we've been getting them at more reasonable

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Fans are the only thing I'm worried. It only has an 80mm fan space, tho the whole GPU part is meshed on the side so it can pull fresh air from there

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I like iCUE, my home PC is corsair themed

teal bison
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so it can only hold 1 fan?

peak hearth
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(little cheating secret, I'm considering buying a Ryzen 5 3600 and using my 2600 for this new PC)

teal bison
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lol i mean it would work

peak hearth
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Yeah, only one fan, but a lot of mesh like EVERYWHERE

teal bison
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do you have the 1600 AF available over there? or are you just going to give them your 2600?

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it retails for $85 but i dont think it is in mexico

peak hearth
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I was planning on I clouding the 3600X in the To-Buy list of the new PC, keep it, and give them my 2600 after upgrading my MOBO bios to be able to run the 3600X

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*including

teal bison
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oh ok sounds good

stoic island
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dayum
110$ for a 450w psu?

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if you just want a good PSU from corsair
go like RMx 550w

tranquil dust
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its platinum

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and full mod

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and sfx

stoic island
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it doesn't make much difference

tranquil dust
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apparently it does

teal bison
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he has a sff case

tranquil dust
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lmao

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yeah

stoic island
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ah

tranquil dust
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ik

stoic island
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theres no case in the list and I just clicked on it soooo

teal bison
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and it was the cheapest one that had a good rating in the psu tier list

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other than the gold version which was $2 cheaper

stoic island
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well
I go in chat
I click pcpp link
I critique

teal bison
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lol all good

stoic island
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thats the ASRock board with updated bios right

teal bison
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well its kinda complicated but he will be using that board with a 2600

stoic island
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ahhh

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I should prob find context first

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theres a 50$ asrock b450 board tho?

teal bison
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basically this parts list is for his family members and he wants to upgrade his cpu from the 2600 so he will just give that to him

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the hdv rev 4?

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sorry gotta go

stoic island
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yea

peak hearth
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The PC part looks good, tho I would change the M.2 to 500 since I already got in this PC a 1TB 7200RPM. And that GPU is not Low Profile, but the one I saw it's also on 160USD so it doesn't matter in price

stoic island
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that m.2 isnt nvme :p

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could go for a 512gb nvme m.2

peak hearth
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Yeah, I know. The thing is, the PC is for my grandparents for normal stuff in the week, and for me and my cousins to game a bit on the weekends we go to visit them, so I don't want to invest thaaaaat much where I don't need it

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If it were my PC, yeah, NVME without a doubt

stoic island
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ick why is nvme drives so expensive

thick helm
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Is the aurous b450 or the Asus tuf b450 motherboard better?

upbeat slate
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Plugged in usb which lights up for a second or two. Ethernet thing on mobo also blinks when plugged in

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PC wont start after I changed case. All the parts are same. Any ideas for trouble shooting?

stoic island
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make sure all the cables are plugged in correctly
(bc changing case usually means relocating PSU)

upbeat slate
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They are. I'm unscrewing mobo right now to see if case came with metal standoff already installed or not. Hopefully not cause i found some in the screws bag

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Nvm that. They're already there

little osprey
tranquil dust
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nice

teal bison
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yeah now that i look at it i would agree. going off of the psu list, its in the same tier as the corsair. earlier i was looking for supernova, not gm so i didnt even find it on the list so i didnt want to recommend a potentially harmful psu

cursive wharf
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I mean so long as you know what you're doing G3 wont hurt you

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Two protections that wont go off if you do dumb stuff

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like load 800w on a 550w PSU

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G5 just has bad performance for the price

teal bison
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ok good to know

cursive wharf
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But yeah, I very rarely recommend EVGA standard size as their pricing tbh isnt good. SFX has a good price tho

teal bison
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what do you think about their BR psus?

cursive wharf
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too cheap

thick helm
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Does anyone k ow if the aurous b450 or the Asus tuf b450 motherboard better?

winged delta
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Atx or micro atx? @thick helm

little osprey
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How much would y’all pay for this:
i3 9350KF
Thermaltake NiC CPU cooler
Asrock phantom gaming matx mobo
16 gb ddr4 2666MHz ram
Gigabyte G1 GTX 980
250 gb ssd 1tb hdd
600w 80+ br psu
Cooler master masterbox matx case

compact latch
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Probably like $450

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-550

latent bronze
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@little osprey 375 to 450

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550 would be a little too much for that since there are people that could spend about the same thing but have a Ryzen 5 1600 with a RX 580 for about that much and would perform better

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Got to remember that the GTX 980 non Ti model performs just like the GTX 1060 6gb/RX 580

stray pine
latent bronze
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Keep talking to rank up to become a regular

stray pine
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SMH! lol i need to play this like an RPG and level up? wow

still roostBOT
latent bronze
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yep

stray pine
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what rank unlocks photos?

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where is that statistic found?

latent bronze
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you mean leve

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level

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and i believe 3

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I believe the reason for this is because of there being too many trolls out in the internet and it would be flooded with troll pictures

stray pine
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i see

floral zephyr
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so my dual slot gpu covers my pcie x1 slot, and i was wanting to upgrade from a USB wifi adapter to something a bit more well equipped. I would like to use a x1 riser and mount the WiFi card lower, but im not entirely sure if this is the way to go, or if theres a better solution.

latent bronze
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@little osprey fix those cables and also i hope you're using a SSD for the main drive

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The way those cables are right now could block important airflow and yes i can see them well

stray pine
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finally, theres my build

latent bronze
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If you are only gaming you won't need a NVMe

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there is really no performance difference in gaming between sata and nvme

stray pine
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i went with a 500gb nvme a 500gb ssd and i got a 1tb hdd

latent bronze
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i have a 240gb, 480gb, 1tb SSD and a 2TB SSHD

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240 for OS and apps, 480 for little and light games, 1tb for Steam and demanding games and 2tb for files

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Minimum now a days for boost would be 240gb

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i used 120gb once and really it fills up fast

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If using Ryzen 2000 series with a B450 board you can use StoreMI and merge the 120gb SSD with your 1tb HDD

stray pine
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so does the hybrid drive doe what it says?

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work?

latent bronze
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pretty much you would have the mass storage but when playing games it would use the SSD

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Hybrids drives are pretty good they are a step below a SSD of course but last longer than a HDD

stray pine
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i was thinking baout getting the seagate firecuda gaming one. but i was unsure

latent bronze
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YouTube StoreMI for more information about it cause i only know so much

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All of my hard drives that i consider dying are at 60%

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which i use them as externals only

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cause for external use you're not killing it fast

stray pine
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oh no!

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no bueno

still roostBOT
thick helm
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@winged delta micro atx

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Unless there is a atx for under 100

winged delta
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there are plenty of atx boards under 100

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depends on the quality though

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are you planning on overclocking?

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@thick helm

little osprey
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If you have dirt in your cpu socket watch this to clean it

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@foggy hazel best tutorial ever

foggy hazel
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imo, not something to joke about.

little osprey
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Please never do that it will ruin your mob

thick helm
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@winged delta not rn but I may over clock later in the year

foggy hazel
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there really is not much to gain for it

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it requires an investment (cooler etc) that imo is more sensible to spend on other components

winged delta
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@thick helm if looks don't matter to you than definitely go for the aorus mATX board

thick helm
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K thx

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But is rheee a big difference in performance between the 2 boards? @winged delta

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There*

winged delta
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the main difference is ports

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not very much difference in performance

still roostBOT
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MajinAzriel#0711 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

stark siren
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????

thick helm
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@winged delta ok thanks!

sharp perch
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@foggy hazel can you help me

upper condor
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@little osprey what do you even do as a job

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I know you have a killer workstation, but what do you use it for

little osprey
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visuals effects for studio why?

upper condor
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Idk seems kinda overkill for anything

little osprey
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not really

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titan is getting switch out for quadros 4 gv100s soon and 3970x for 3990x

upper condor
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You must make hecka bank

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If you can afford that

little osprey
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key thing i don't studio dose

upper condor
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Lucky

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Do you get to use it personally though?

little osprey
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yeah why?

upper condor
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Just asking

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Im super jealous also☹

little osprey
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the studio i work for all i do is fix cuts and effects and render it out than send it over to render farm

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for final render

upper condor
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Ahhh makes sense then

foggy hazel
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his machine is not crazy at all

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dont ask for some of the software license prices (unless that has changed in the industry @little osprey ?)

little osprey
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nope its even worse

foggy hazel
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oh joy

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@upper condor then yes, his machine cost is pocket change

upper condor
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This is really funny to read

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"High end" is just a pcie gpu

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Technology is cool

foggy hazel
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also known as time that has passed, also known as history

little osprey
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when @foggy hazel means pocket change he not lying either @upper condor

upper condor
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Ik

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There are much more expensive workstations

foggy hazel
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no, you think you know.

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please, trust us.

upper condor
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I do

foggy hazel
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it is SILLY amounts of money

upper condor
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NASA supercomputer be like

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50 mil

little osprey
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company work render farm is well over 150m

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software cost start at 125k a year or more

upper condor
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Well uh my place is much more fancy I bet

little osprey
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plus one of my quadros gv1000's is 9k each @upper condor just time that 4

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plus add 3990x into mix

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plus another 2k in ram

upper condor
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41,990

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You must be very good at your job xD

little osprey
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than times that 25 times that with over 1000 artist

upper condor
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Why times it by 15

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25*

little osprey
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because of Labors and IT admin fixing

upper condor
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So times 25 times 1000 or x25

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How about this, its expensive as heck

little osprey
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ok good for me

upper condor
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Yep

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Meanwhile im here about to get a 3600.........

little osprey
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if have questions i can answer than i will

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@foggy hazel can help you under cost of workstation too

upper condor
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I re-evaluated how much I actually need to enjoy playing and realized 2k is too much

foggy hazel
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@upper condor iirc, your last linked machine has visual and performance

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skip all the visual ... waste ...

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or play more interesting games

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then you wont notice that you have a nice black box without rgb

upper condor
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Changed it again

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Now its gonna be super ugly but perform well for cheap

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And then more games

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Can be bought

viral ore
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😭 😭 😭

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Found out why my raid card bios isn't starting

stoic island
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?

subtle halo
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aw

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its broken lol

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how did you break it

viral ore
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I didn't, it must've come like that

subtle halo
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does it work before?

viral ore
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Nah, it's in my new pc

subtle halo
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rma it

viral ore
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It just throws a bios error

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Ebay

subtle halo
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yes paypal covers it

viral ore
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It technically came with the motherboard

subtle halo
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if the seller dont respond

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you win

viral ore
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This was almost 2 months ago lol

subtle halo
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you dint check it ? they might use that against you

viral ore
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It's fine, replacements are like $16

subtle halo
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ow

viral ore
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I couldn't check it

subtle halo
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i thought it cost a tons of money

viral ore
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I tested the board, and checked for a cleared q code

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Which it did

subtle halo
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you can replace it by replacing chips?

viral ore
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Well, this particular card is like 120, but there is a cheaper one for 16

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The one I have has features I'll never use, so the downgrade isn't an issue

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To replace the chip would cost about $3400

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Because minimum order quantity is 696

tulip shore
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So i think i'm done upgrading my PC until I am ready to build a 100% new one. I got a i7-8700k, MSI Z390 gaming plus mobo, MSI Ventus 2070 super, Corsair Vengence 16 gbs 3000, 240 gb kingston boot, 2tb HDD, Cooler master LC120E RGB AIO, and a lian li lancool II case

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I think that'll last me for a couple of years

little osprey
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thats about my build, only difference is case, cpu, gpu, and storage

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though cpu/gpu is close(but better then mine)

edgy zephyr
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Installing OS now 3900x ryzen 9 32gb of ddr4 3000 evga gtx 1060 coolmaster master liquid 120 and a cx750m to power it

cursive wharf
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That's uhhh... Unbalanced to say the least

edgy zephyr
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How so?

cursive wharf
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1060, 120mm AIO, pretty budget PSU

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yet a 3900x

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also only 3000 RAM

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(hopefully OCable?)

edgy zephyr
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Just picked a board was going to go with a 8 core but found a deal on the 12

cursive wharf
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I would assume it'd still be $400 - $450?

edgy zephyr
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Brand new 482

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For the 12 core

cursive wharf
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Yee, not to bring shame to you but that is a pretty unbalanced build. Good CPU, nice deal for it, but everything else is budget

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maybe not mobo, storage, or case cuz idk them

edgy zephyr
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Oh yeah. Looking at a x570

cursive wharf
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nice

edgy zephyr
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Last build was 2016. Can use this board for a kids friendly pc when I upgrade

cursive wharf
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yeah

edgy zephyr
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And I'm cheap

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Did this on the fly for 900 so far

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Trying to decide if I want to keep the ssd drive or go m.2

cursive wharf
#

Depends on what you do

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If not doing professional work just go SATA

dawn turtle
#

So I currently am thinking about getting an aio which my case fans are ll120’s so I was just wondering if they have to match

viral ore
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they do not have to match

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it will look better if they do

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but it wont effect performance

dawn turtle
#

Ok

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Thank you

abstract garden
viral ore
#

you can get cheaper rams

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the corsair lpx 3600 CL 16 is like 80ish

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and get an RX 5700 xt

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better performance per dollar

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im not sure about ryzen 3000 support on that motherboard, you might have to do some googling

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just to make sure

abstract garden
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RGB = Better Performance obviously

viral ore
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lmao

edgy zephyr
#

Well did a cinebench all at stock levels hit 65c and scored 6928. Not to bad

viral ore
#

if you like the look of the rams then go ahead and get em

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i think they look dope

abstract garden
#

Yeah better than ripjaws lmao

viral ore
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eh, ripjaws are about the same quality wise

abstract garden
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No I meant like looks

viral ore
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@little osprey its for a gpu render farm at work

abstract garden
#

I personally don’t like the look of ripjaws

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Oh and should I get 2 more case fans?

viral ore
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the corsair ones are mostly black

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how many case fans does ur case come with

abstract garden
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2

little osprey
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Ah

abstract garden
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😩

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It just looks good tbh

little osprey
#

Yeah that seemed kinda overkill

viral ore
#

yeah, get another identical fan

abstract garden
#

So the NZXT Aer140 or whatever it’s called

viral ore
#

yeah i think

abstract garden
#

Alright

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Oh and what is the RX 5700 xt

viral ore
#

its a gpu

abstract garden
#

Ah

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Would’ve guessed

viral ore
#

it performs similarly to the 2070 super

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but is like 100 bucks cheaper

cursive wharf
#

PSU is meh. Most decent PSUs can push about 10%+ more then what they say they can, that one cant at all

abstract garden
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Dudeee but it has Super in its name it must be good

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Lmao

viral ore
#

its a seasonic psu

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its fine

cursive wharf
#

I know

abstract garden
#

I was thinking about getting a Corsair

cursive wharf
#

Seasonic isnt always great

viral ore
#

its not gonna catch on fire, thats good enough

abstract garden
#

It just has a lot more slots

cursive wharf
#

It can damage components on overload

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which most PSUs wont

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cuz voltage ripple

viral ore
#

i mean, its 650

abstract garden
viral ore
#

so idk if a 3700x and a 5700xt would push it far enough

cursive wharf
#

Still tho, why pay for that when other PSUs wont do that?

viral ore
#

that works too

cursive wharf
#

RMx is same price as RM

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RMx will on average last longer due to better capacitors

abstract garden
#

Ah lemme check it out

abstract garden
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Oooh

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Nice

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Run with this instead?

cursive wharf
#

I would, dont have to as I doubt you'd push more then 650w, but due to price being basically the same then yeah

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push more then 650w when upgrading*

abstract garden
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Ah gotcha

cursive wharf
#

current configuration wont even push 550

abstract garden
#

Yeah I just wanna be safe

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So was the PSU about it?

cursive wharf
#

Also so is mobo

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And beware of the case, thermals arent that great in it

abstract garden
#

Alrighty

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What’s wrong with the Mobo other than that it’s RGB? 😂

cursive wharf
#

It's is decent quality, problem is price. That's basically on cheap x570 price which beats that mobo in quality. As a b450 tho it is good

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cheap x570 mind you has no RGB

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but I'd just get a non RGB mobo, RAM, fans and get RGB strips

abstract garden
#

Which x570 do you suggest?

cursive wharf
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Do you want that RGBness?

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might be a bit much, havent really looked at it

abstract garden
#

Eh

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I guess so

cursive wharf
abstract garden
#

I really like the look of the mobo I have now but it comes down to if I want better looks or performance 😫

cursive wharf
#

I mean you dont have to switch it out. Should be fine for whatever you need it to do. While there is a "perf increase" so to speak, no standard consumer will notice it. As for x570 that's like PCIe Gen4 or better VRMs to OC a 3950x, something else, etc

abstract garden
#

Ah sweet

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As long as there is no noticeable problems with performance I am fine

#

Oh and I am confused as what XC is on the GPU

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Something to do with overclocking I am guessing lol

little osprey
wispy matrix
#

That’s a car part not a pc part lol

little osprey
#

anything is a pc part

little osprey
#

It increases aerodynamics

latent bronze
wispy matrix
#

I seen that way to many times

latent bronze
wispy matrix
#

Lol

stoic island
#

@latent bronze you really need to recrop that one

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You can tell it's an image bc the discoloration

latent bronze
#

@stoic island Not everyone can tell actually

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Maybe you and a few others but that would be about it

sacred obsidian
stoic island
#

alr

covert crypt
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I need two monitors

stoic island
#

@covert crypt not worth

covert crypt
#

Which should I look at for dual monitors?

stoic island
#

go on amazon or smth

#

that exact monitor is 170USD on amazon, 225cad

lime forge
#

@coarse coral theo_dumb

coarse coral
#

why are you TAGGING ME

lime forge
#

meh idk

#

boredom

latent bronze
#

Eh a VA panel

covert crypt
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Is it better for dual ?

#

Is va panel no good? Lol

latent bronze
#

VA it depends on the person cause for me as an example it really hurts my eyes

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At least with TN and IPS(PLS) those are perfectly fine

covert crypt
#

Cause right now my monitors are these

https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Monitors/MX279H/

ASUS Canada

The new Designo MX279H sports an elegant and precision-crafted sundial design; it features an edge-to-edge frameless panel with 178° ultra-wide viewing angle AH-IPS A+ technology for incredible visuals. Additionally, built-in ASUS SonicMaster technology, co-developed with Ba...

latent bronze
#

For VA it is best to go to your local PC shop and see if they have it on display and on

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That is a IPS monitor

covert crypt
#

Yah Its my current ones. But the refresh rates are bad

latent bronze
#

I plan on upgrading/downgrading my monitor

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mine is from Samsung a 24" PLS (Samsung's IPS version) but only 60hz

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I am going to stay at 1080p but going to go with 144hz and pretty much TN

#

the upgrade is the hz and the display port the downgrade is the panel

covert crypt
#

Are u dual monitors ?

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Or single

latent bronze
#

going to sell my monitor i am using now when i upgrade

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I have a laptop so when i stream i use that instead of a second monitor

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Personally for me i find for streaming you don't really need another monitor cause for the chatroom and for responding to them you can use a cheap laptop to a 8" cheap Android tablet

covert crypt
#

For me I'm using one screen for gaming and the other for watching movies lol

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And cuz I'm use to having two monitors

latent bronze
#

I used to use 2 monitor like 10 to 20 years ago but then i realised i could use something else for streaming or watching movies while i am playing a game

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The other thing for my laptop is cause it can play certain games that my buddies would play when they would come over they can always play with me

latent talon
#

Hey guys been trying to up my PC build and would just like a second recommendation from the previous. I'm not too comfortable with the case but I think everything else is good right now for a gaming streaming PC as well as music creation. Please let me know what you think.

foggy hazel
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any reason that you are spending that much on things that wont make a difference?

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also, and please dont take this the wrong way, but IF you are a tiny bit serious about the music part

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get an actual pair of headphones.

latent talon
#

Planning on keeping this pc for a while, don't want to upgrade it for a little bit.

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And no lol it's like Finale music not fruit loops rapper type thing. Like sheet music for a band lol

foggy hazel
#

does not matter what the music is for

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even off-key nursery rhymes deserve headphones instead of gaming headsets (imo)

#

but the music part is the smallest thing

#

you got the ability to join the voice chat?

#

because there are so many questions that need some VERY good answers in regards to your build

latent talon
#

Cooking right meow, is it that bad? Or is it the price thats the bad part

foggy hazel
#

it is that bad

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and the price is bad

#

@latent talon 2 hours from now? how about that?

latent talon
#

Hold on I can make time really quick

foggy hazel
#

this wont be a quick talk

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just saying.

latent talon
#

Naw I got cha let's go

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I'm ready to cry

foggy hazel
#

okay, i will join voice in 1-2 minutes, need to grab a drink

latent talon
#

Ok I'll be in there

covert crypt
#

Is the ryzen 3800x stock cooler enough?

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Or should I buy a cooler

waxen sluice
#

i have a ryzen 5 2600 with the original cooler and its doing fine

#

if you are overclocking and doing some weird stuff then maybe you should buy a better cooler

covert crypt
#

I think my pc can handle fine without overclocking o.o..

upper condor
#

@covert crypt whats your max budget

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And yes it will

covert crypt
#

That's my max lol

upper condor
#

Oh ok

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Well the 3800X vs the 3700X is pretty much nothing

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Small changes

covert crypt
#

The 3800x just looks more pleasing a number to me lol

upper condor
#

But a 2070 doesnt?

covert crypt
#

Preferably 2080 but the moneyyy

latent bronze
#

Since you have 4 memory slots on the board why not start off with 16gb and later on if you need get another 16gb

covert crypt
#

Its better to use 2 slots cause of the daisy chain

upper condor
#

?

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No

#

Its dual channel first off

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And you dont lose performance from more sticks

covert crypt
#

Naw I like having overkill 32gb lol

upper condor
#

But its a waste of money most likely

covert crypt
#

And cuz I run multiple emulators

upper condor
#

Build Help Request Questions to answer:

  • Budget/currency? If PCPartPicker unavailable, what site?
  • Use case? (1440p144 gaming, Photoshop, etc.)
  • Extras? (monitor, headphones, keyboard, etc.)
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Here

strange garden
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Is there a way to transfer my CPU to an upgraded MOBO without having to repurchase Windows 10? Looking at upgrading my HP Omen obelisk to a new MOBO and case to allow future upgradeability and improve airflow/cooling performance.

latent talon
#

So with the help of @foggy hazel, I was able to get to this bad boy from my original. And i couldn't be happier. He really knows his stuff and If I could give him stars i would

foggy hazel
#

@latent talon you are very welcome :)

latent talon
woven horizon
#

Do you need all that storage?

latent talon
#

i will yes @woven horizon

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unless you think i should get something smaller

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and then add on more later

woven horizon
#

get the 2tb 970 instead of 2 1tb one

foggy hazel
#

depends on the tiering we talked about @latent talon

woven horizon
#

and are you sure 750w is enough? had a friend kill a 750w psu with a 2700x and 2080super

foggy hazel
#

it is plenty

#

that psu can deliver what it needs and then some

woven horizon
#

as soon as my friend switched his gpu from 2070 to the 2080 super the psu died. Sure i believe it SeaSonic 🙂

foggy hazel
#

and that is why a good psu is so important

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and why @cursive wharf and myself harp on and on about it mattering

stoic island
#

Really, 550w is all you need for 3950x 2080ti, soooo 750 would be fine

woven horizon
#

I have the tt smart 750 you think i could move to the 3800x and 2080s?

stoic island
#

If the PSU is good, definally

woven horizon
#

its in the A tier

stoic island
#

Then sure

cursive wharf
#

TT smart is bad, also is not in LTT tier listing a

stoic island
#

What tier is it under on the ltt list?

cursive wharf
#

D

stoic island
#

Oof

woven horizon
#

where is the tier list

#

pin it please

cursive wharf
#

EDIT: This tier list isnt always 100% accurate. However it is still the best tier list that I know of
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

stoic island
woven horizon
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B tier I'm sorry

stoic island
#

Too many TT smart PSUs

woven horizon
#

You are right

sudden turret
#

eh

#

nice psu

#

😄

teal bison
#

Look at that, Hei finally gets the recognition he deserves in the form of a pinned message

stoic island
#

lol

vestal cove
teal bison
#

I agree

vestal cove
#

Finished my first pc build

stoic island
#

nice

vestal cove
#

Nah jp

#

It’s my old pc

little osprey
#

I need help

foggy hazel
#

ask and we can see if we can supply it

little osprey
#

I'm building my new PC right now and I bought the nzxt x62 280mm and a Gigabyte X570 Auros Elite. When I go to put the back mount bracket for the water cooler, the holes aren't wide enough for the x62, am I doing something wrong???

woven horizon
#

@little osprey thats an intel bracket it looks like

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey sorry to bring you the bad news, but that bracket is not needed.

little osprey
#

So I need a new bracket?

foggy hazel
#

look in the installation booklet that comes with the cooler

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look at the purple text

woven horizon
#

probably use the stock bracket

foggy hazel
#

the AMD section.

little osprey
#

I bought the cooler open box. No manual

little osprey
#

This is what it came with

foggy hazel
#

aye, read the manual i just linked you above

woven horizon
#

yep the manual will help the amd bracket is there youll need to use the stock backplate i think otherwise youll have to buy the backplate

little osprey
#

I don't understand it, do I have what I need or no?

woven horizon
#

use the backplate that came with the motherboard also put the hooks back on the backplate

foggy hazel
#

read the manual

#

actually read it, instead of skimming it

sudden turret
sullen spoke
#

Skimming is the only way to read

#

What is the quality of that pic lol

vestal cove
#

I broke the ram stick

#

I didn’t think they would be that delicate

foggy hazel
#

they are not

#

but nothing is user safe.

sudden turret
#

how do you break a ram stick..

sullen spoke
#

Ye how

sudden turret
#

playing drums with them?

sullen spoke
#

And how does box keep telling me to shut it

sudden turret
sullen spoke
#

xD

sudden turret
#

I will mute you all night.

sullen spoke
#

That’s not very nice

cursive wharf
#

neat. got a pin I guess. Made an edit so that people know not to 100% go by it, just mostly

vestal cove
#

Bent it in half

foggy hazel
#

pcb does not bend.

sudden turret
#

You are true to your name.. I guess.

vestal cove
#

They were old af

foggy hazel
#

old pcb still does not bend

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(to that degree)

fresh summit
#

do you guys think a 2700x will bottleneck a msi trio x gaming 2080

foggy hazel
#

and i hope you dont mind, but i changed the gpu to a 2080super

fresh summit
#

i dont i asked for options and yours is one

#

that has helped

#

erhhmm

#

the ram i have heard bad things about it being unstable form friends

foggy hazel
#

it is 10-ish usd more expensive.

fresh summit
#

yeah

foggy hazel
#

then we can change the ram, i personally dont have a problem with them, but give me a moment.

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
fresh summit
#

noice

foggy hazel
#

if possible, i would go for a 512 rocket instead

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

like that

fresh summit
#

lol i was confused on why the second list was 100 more but there is the other ram too

foggy hazel
#

gives you a bit more room to play around with

#

(i changed the second list :) )

fresh summit
#

yeah

foggy hazel
#

and before your friends chime in, yes, the 650watt psu is more than enough

#

and no, there is not any benefit from the 4*8 setup with ram (that you had)

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

it only gives you a added cost when you potentially upgrade in x years

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

because at that point, you would end up with 4*8 sticks you dont have use for

fresh summit
#

yeah\

foggy hazel
#

@fresh summit anything else i can help with ?

fresh summit
#

ummm no thank you so much for the extra help

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome :) and have fun with the build :)

#

the next thing you might want to look into is adding a decent air cooler (for added silence)

#

but there is no rush for that

#

the stock cooler is fine for you

fresh summit
#

yeah i was looking at bench marks for performace and quietness and the articfreezer duo cooler was very competive with alot of the coolers around the same price so i will probably go with that

#

and do you think 3rd gen ryzens will have a price drop when 4th gen comes out

foggy hazel
#

time will tell on the price

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

as for cooler, something like a noctua n12 would be my recommendation

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
#
#

that

#

my bad on the wrong product name the first time around.

fresh summit
#

ok

#

about a nh-d15

foggy hazel
#

and yes, it does not look fancy, but it performs well.

#

yes, what about the d15?

fresh summit
#

its better that the brown

#

it priced simular

foggy hazel
#

brown or black, they perform the same. (when the model name is the same)

#

example: u12s comes in both brown and black

fresh summit
#

yah but the black looks wat better

foggy hazel
#

they perform the same.

#

that is your choice

fresh summit
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

it also costs a bit more.

#

the black is normally about 10 usd more expensive

fresh summit
#

yeah but idk the brown is just an eyesoar for me doesnt really match stuff as well

foggy hazel
#

that is your preference :)

fresh summit
#

not too bad but if you dont care about astetics

#

yeah

foggy hazel
#

performance first, then visuals

#

is what i go by

fresh summit
#

yeah

foggy hazel
#

mind, i dont do windows or lights

#

i have better things to use the budgets for my machines on :)

olive kraken
#

Can somebody help me create the most unbalanced PC ever ?

#

:3 I'm talking completely unreasonable hardware

fresh summit
#

you dont do windows i get no rgb but no windows

#

yeah i guess they can put a diffrence on the overall price

foggy hazel
#

@fresh summit i work/play on the machines. windows serve no purpose.

fresh summit
#

yeah i just think its a cool idea

foggy hazel
#

agreed 100% @fresh summit

#

IF i was doing a visual build, i would absolutely use a case with a window

fresh summit
#

yeah

foggy hazel
#

@olive kraken for what use?

olive kraken
#

I just want unreasonable stuff

#

Like AMD CPU with Intel GPU

foggy hazel
#

nope, cannot help you. there is paint i have to watch dry.

olive kraken
#

Fair enough

covert crypt
#

Help I finished my pc build but it says this for compatibility

Note:The Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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What's a better compatible psu ?

woven horizon
#

what cpu and how much overclocking are you planning

covert crypt
#

And probably wont overclock much or rarely

little osprey
#

that's enough

woven horizon
#

you dont need it most 1000w psus have that extra cable

#

i have the mpg gaming edge wifi x570 and dont use it. My friend has the b450 pro carbon and he didnt need to use it

cursive wharf
#

8 pin EPS supplies 300w of power, no AM4 CPU takes that much

#

So you don't need the extra 4 pin

covert crypt
#

Ok so my build is clear and good to run smoothly and properly without it ?

woven horizon
#

yes youre good

#

corsair 220t is a cheaper case and it basically a mesify c

#

and you get 3 corsair sp120 fans

cursive wharf
#

Deepcool has much cheaper cases

#

Then get upHere RGB fans

covert crypt
#

Is it cheaper? I dont care much for rgb all I want is great airflow

#

And easy cable management

woven horizon
#

uphere fans failed after 2 months results may vary

covert crypt
#

Meshify c was recommended to me for airflow

woven horizon
#

I have the fans off.

#

Lights*

cursive wharf
#

Also I'd probably get a 3700x and spend the excess money on a better cpu cooler

covert crypt
#

Cuz my desktop is gonna be on the floor and no looked at lol

#

3800x comee with stock cooler which I'm told is sufficient enough o.o

cursive wharf
#

It is adequate, but not great

foggy hazel
#

@covert crypt if you are not overclocking, you are wasting a LOT of money on that mainboard [edit:spelling]

covert crypt
#

I will be overclocking just not often

little osprey
#

it's sufficient in the same way pasta with no sauce is sufficient

woven horizon
#

^

little osprey
#

sufficient

foggy hazel
#

well, IF you are going to be oc'ing, then where is the cooler for that?

little osprey
#

in the sense that it just happens to work

woven horizon
#

itll make a turd

foggy hazel
#

because you are not going to get anywhere on the stock cooler.

cursive wharf
#

I wouldn't say it's that bad, but to an extent

covert crypt
#

I have a hyper evo 212 in my closet

foggy hazel
#

i said a cooler, not a piece of waste.

covert crypt
#

Is it enough or a better or out there xD

cursive wharf
#

Wow Naed

#

That was harsh

#

Lol

foggy hazel
#

i do NOT like the evo 212.

woven horizon
#

noctua or be quiet

foggy hazel
#

it is way overpriced and way way overrated

covert crypt
#

Itll fit all my parts in the case I hope lol

cursive wharf
#

Yeah, but if you have an old one laying around to replace some stock coolers it isn't that bad

#

But still, pretty sure Mugen 5 is in Canada

still roostBOT
#
RedZombie#6255 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

viral ore
#

haha

sour violet
#

@shadow flume howd you fry your old comp

bright willow
#

Someone wanna rate my build?

foggy hazel
#

go for it

wispy matrix
#

is Water cooling worth it

vivid atlas
#

It usually keeps ur pc cool, so if you’re OCing why not

little osprey
#

How do you guys have enough money to be building like more than one decent pc

foggy hazel
#

work

cursive wharf
#

Well, with a stable job and decent saving habits, the majority of people can save up money for their hobbies. Whatever that hobby may be

upper fjord
#

Hi everyone, newegg chat sent me here, 1 quick question for MOBO memory standard spec: DDR3 2400+(O.C.)/ 2100/ 1866/ 1800*/ 1600*/ 1333/ 1066 does that mean i can only use ram sticks without the OC* ?

#

thanks for your help, i really appreciate it

latent bronze
#

@little osprey There are people on here that would buy used parts for really cheap and resell it as a whole build for a little more

#

like someone could build a decent system for esports games and spend like 300$ but end up building it and sell it for like 400$ so you'd make a 100$ profit and then keep doing it to make a little more back

little osprey
#

What's going on guys

main carbon
#

Is R5 3600/RX5600XT /16g ram good?

subtle halo
#

define good xD

latent bronze
#

@main carbon the only way something would be bad if you had or was thinking of buying a Core 2 Quad Q9550 or a Athlon X4 845 and wanted to pair it up with a RX 5600 XT

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@subtle halo You can see in this the overclocked cores is what makes the 5600 XT almost as good as the 2060 😛

subtle halo
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yes

tropic shale
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waiting to order more parts to finish my new build. Graphics card and monitors will currently stay the same, but looking to upgrade them in the near future. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqmtK4 which would you upgrade first, graphics card or monitors? I mainly play games (Tarkov, Overwatch, Rust, cod) & watch movies on them

latent bronze
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@tropic shale Got to ask why did you get 3 60hz monitors?

subtle halo
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the driver is not fixed yet

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there might be more improvment

latent bronze
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Tomie it is not a driver thing though

tropic shale
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I got 2, and was given a 3rd monitor while doing some website design. Just kind of stuck with it. @latent bronze

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The AOC wasnt intended but came in handy, lol.

subtle halo
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we can install 5700xt bios on our 5700 and oc it to beat 5700xt stock score. ... 60c-65c

latent bronze
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When people like Hardware Unboxing would do these tests they find the most stable one they don't always use the up to date drivers

subtle halo
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if 2060 oc maybe it could be higher

latent bronze
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the 2060 in that graph is base clocks same with the 1660 Super

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overall for the vbios that is something you have to do on your own AMD wont provide that

subtle halo
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just use gpu-z save bios

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unlock the card then flash it

latent bronze
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and if you get a black screen then what?

subtle halo
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you can go back

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or play with oc

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until u get stable ones

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jay2cents already did it.. and he beat the stock

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of 5700xt

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few hundreds away

latent bronze
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with the 5700 yes but with the 5600 XT that is a different story

subtle halo
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yeah

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i dont have it so.. xD hahah good luck for those 5600xt users ❤️

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those comes from failed 5700 xD and so 5700 comes from dead 5700xt

latent bronze
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Lot of people that cares about people actually gives out a disclaimer to use at your own risk and what are the possible causes for the 5600 XT Vbios update/change

subtle halo
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i like how 5600xt first lunch had dual bios

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makes me jelly

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xD

latent bronze
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certain one's have it not all

subtle halo
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yeah

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new gpu like this. must use new driver because theres always improvement from Footnotes.. like Playing Warcraft®️ III: Reforged now it increase from 211.1 to 234.9 FPS

latent bronze
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The Sapphire card doesn't have it

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and there is a model that is already sold out

subtle halo
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but still 5700 series still at the bug list haha

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kinda lucky now i dont have those blackscreen and shutdown issues.

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reddit 5700 owners are crying for help

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on /r/amdhelp

latent bronze
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There is a YouTuber by the name RandomGameinginHD which he only gets black screens for certain games in HDMI 1080p but when he goes for DP 1440p it is working fine

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with the 5700 XT

subtle halo
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yeah thats sad maybe ports are bad or the driver makes it look like bad

latent bronze
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He is thinking it is a driver issue so he is going to hold onto the card

subtle halo
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thats my plan also

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to hold into this card

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haha

latent bronze
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Tuesday i am going to check my local PC shop if they will still have that AIO i want

subtle halo
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bykski aio looks fine

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we bought parts yesterday

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just 2700 build.. with mortar max mobo...

latent bronze
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I am only buying that because one it is affordable for me and two my board has a RGB header and not a ARGB header

subtle halo
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at stock bios the g skill works

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at 3200

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then after update

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it only runs 2993

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else it wont boot

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but vengance pro 3200 works

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on stock not.. but on updated one its fine

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xD

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weird

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i know 2nd gens are bound to 2993 .. the maximum oc i seen on 2nd gen is 3600 at r 5 2400g xD from acientgameplay yt

latent bronze
subtle halo
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yeah its fine

latent bronze
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If for gaming it is perfect

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especially 1080p gaming

subtle halo
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for gaming your losing a lot of frame on dota 2 if you use 5700xt on that cpu

latent bronze
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But Dota 2 there isn't much people on here that plays it

subtle halo
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yeah

latent bronze
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Majority i would see people wanting a system for games like Apex, Fortnite, CoD MW and maybe Tomb Raider

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so a system like what i just slapped out there would be perfect for all those games

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oh for the Tomb Raider games would be maxed out over 60 fps

subtle halo
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when i tried 2400g + 5700 on apex

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the reason it lags

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because the grass

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grass render too slow

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xD

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i hope they fix it

latent bronze
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That is more a GPU issue

subtle halo
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but on 3600

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its fine

latent bronze
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my cousin plays Apex with a R5 1400 and a GTX 1650 Super and it runs smooth like butter

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always between 70 and 90 fps

subtle halo
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i was so desperate to do modding on apex when i use my old cpu 2400g

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like no grass mod

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hahaha

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becaue its so sad

latent bronze
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R5 1400 is weaker than a 2400G as well

subtle halo
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its freezing like hell

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but after u render the grass

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its fine

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aslong u dong run away

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and start rendering other grass

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haha

latent bronze
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brb got to check on my food

loud apex
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Ryzen 1600 af is a 2600 I thnkk

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But cheaper

sacred obsidian
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its slightly weaker

loud apex
sacred obsidian
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it can be oc easily from what i understand to 2600 levels tho

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but like its just barely weaker

latent bronze
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about 5% weaker

eager dust
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It's basically on par, uses same process as 2600 I think only difference is memory controller if I'm not mistaken or something small that makes it little bit weaker in some scenarios

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But it's supposed to be $85 vs $120-$130 for 2600 so

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1600 AF superior on a tight budget

latent bronze
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But 5% weaker is not on par

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also right now the 1600 AF is selling for 100$

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85 was the MSRP really

eager dust
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basically on par
Because it's only 5% weaker in some scenarios not consistently 5% weaker

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And yes that's true but it's just a waiting thing, price probably upped based on buzz

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Trending on Newegg at the moment as a search term

latent bronze
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It won't drop cause of high demand which is why now the 2700 is like 150$

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more people going after the 1600 AF so they decided make the 2700 cheaper so people would go for that

eager dust
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2700 and 2600 well priced right now compared to the inflated 1600

sacred obsidian
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also keep in mind

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i got my 2600 for 90 sooooooooooooooooooo

eager dust
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Where?

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How?

subtle halo
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when?

eager dust
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^

sacred obsidian
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micro center does a deal where you can buy a mobo and cpu and if you buy both you get 30 bucks off cpu

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i got it like in december i think? but deal is still going

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as of yesterday it was

eager dust
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Nearest is too far lucky

sacred obsidian
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lol

cursive wharf
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"luckly"

sacred obsidian
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i also just got a good mobo for 110

subtle halo
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ow

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90

eager dust
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I'm in Miami, drive to Georgia would prob makeup the savings lol

subtle halo
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lowest i can find here is 98$

sacred obsidian
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so essentially i got a 2600 plus asus x470 for 200 bucks 😄

subtle halo
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nice

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but can it play crisis?

sacred obsidian
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no

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i tried to run it yesterday

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it crashed

eager dust
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lol

sacred obsidian
subtle halo
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xD

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crysis 1: 0

sacred obsidian
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it was crysis 2 lol

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i dont have og crysis

subtle halo
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lucky u crash only

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my 570 died

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crysis 2 maximum edition

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4 hours of gameplay

sacred obsidian
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570 mobo?

subtle halo
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amd rx 570

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xD