#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 465

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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what about DRAM sata m.2

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as opposed to pcie

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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my 7200 hdd still kicking xD i mean ticking

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xD

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Sunbow X3, $52 for 480gb

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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m.2

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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A60 is a worthy upgrade I'd say
why M2 tho?

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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its just

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easy

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compact

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no cables

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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this^

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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SATA M2 means you cant reuse after an upgrade to NVMe

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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id rather prefer lol

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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maybe sunbow degrades it speed over time xD well theres must be cache if its good to be true

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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most motherboards have 2 or 3

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:42 AM

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not most cheap ones

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:42 AM

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any upgrade, especially considering the mobo im suggesting, warrants a new motherboard

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and a nicer one, at that

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:42 AM

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i have 1 m.2 slot sad

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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also wdym upgrade to NVMe

lyric thistle Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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I got none 😎

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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your the one who says its worthless lmao

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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is the mobo you have for me wifi enabled, its not a requirement just curious

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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no

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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ok

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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year or two down the line with a budget, you can get yourself a proper NVMe just cuz

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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most motherboards dont come with wifi, actually

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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yea ive seen that

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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a cheap 15 dollar pcie card will do tho

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 AM

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yea

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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most mobo with wifi ... windows mess with it

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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AsRock mini ITX with WiFi is $85

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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owo

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kcCFf7/asrock-b450mac-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450mac

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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really?

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oh, thats worth it

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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is the wifi inside a mobo very reliable ?

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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its pretty much the same

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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like it doesnt perform like a ugly a** dongle

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like phone lvl of wifi

magic rune Jan 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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haha, like i plan on staying plugged in though

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its more of a luxury if anything

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:46 AM

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eh, its a better motherboard, anyway

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:46 AM

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linus is on my notification with caption "ive been thinking of retiring."

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:46 AM

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its full micro atx, so it wont be as hard to plug in the 24 pin

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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oh whoops, remembered it as ITX

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great memory I have

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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o lol

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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4000 is amateur hour - I don't want my finger only hanging by a thread if I stick it in there

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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i didnt even notice

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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24pin is my biggest enemy

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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you have no idea

lyric thistle Jan 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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48 pin when

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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SCREEEEEEECH

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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so thigh uwu

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xD

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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It's silly becaues there are like - 3 wires in that 24 pin that actually carry any current

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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48 pin for? xD

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the size of tech is shrinking down

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why power goes up haha

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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SR-3 dark uses 4 8 pin cpu plugs

lyric thistle Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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8 cpu sockets NYEHE

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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server use maybe ^

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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8 is nearly non existant on 1 board, - 4 socket was fairly common

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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but thats require a lot of little noisy fans

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xD

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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@lyric thistle 48 pin?

📎 63447_01_asus-rog-dominus-extreme-pcmr-motherboard.png

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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but 4 x dual cpu daughter board is common

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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ooow

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what cpu is it

lyric thistle Jan 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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nice

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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LGA 3467

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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yay

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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So Xeon 3175x

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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ow

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255 w tdp

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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A few of my internet friends have tried both the asus dominus , now two have the sr-3 dark, all that same cpu - Dominous was bug ridden

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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is the 255 on full load? any one knows the full load tdp of that

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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the sr-3 dark is

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so

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Had to heat the pwm controller with a hair dryier to get it to boot

viral ore Jan 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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expensive tho

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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hair dryier?

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Ya, even I thought that haha

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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i only seen that if you use ln and it doesnt boot beacause its so cold

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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But I understand why

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I've been on the fence to buy an x299 dark for a while onw - really ,really wish I accepted the offer for $220 from EVGA last year

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Even now, they're $315 new for top tier x299

subtle halo Jan 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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aw

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should we return back in time?

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create new timeline where you bought it..

celest horizon Jan 23, 2020, 6:59 AM

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There might be more fun things to do if given the chance to time travel

lyric thistle Jan 23, 2020, 7:00 AM

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plug two hard drives into the same port and run it in RAID 0 in a third timeline

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leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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hey guys im trying to build a pc its a ryzen 5 3600x with the stock onn an x570 board with a 750 watt psu where do i plug in all of these plugs??

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 6:31 PM

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@leaden lark which plugs are you talking about?

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psu? case?

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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ive got an EVGA 750 silver psu, and a thermaltake H200 Snow case with an AS rock X570 wifi board, im trying to boot it up and make sure everything turns on

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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yes. and that does not really answer what i asked :)

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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oh um like the cables thatll turn the mother borad on and make the the case turn on

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im terrible at this im sorry

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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nothing to be sorry about

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there are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)

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have you installed the mainboard into the case already or?

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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yes sir

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i have

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 6:36 PM

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okay, then what you need to plugin is both the case connectors (which control the power/reset etc) and the PSU connectors

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you want to take it via voice instead?

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 6:42 PM

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well lol i jus got called into work fml

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but if ya add me we can def do this later

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 6:43 PM

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i am not located well for that (timezone wise) 19:45 here right now :)

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so, just ask again when you get back from work :)

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have a good day

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Sup @foggy hazel

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Have you seen Gamers nexus vid on the 2060 KO? Its the same as a 2060 for gaming but in workstation tasks its comparable to a 2080

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:00 PM

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i have it in a tab, been eating dinner :) and hello @upper condor

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Good evening

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I gotta work on my build tonight lol

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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:)

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Nike is starting ti understand stuff now so thats good

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:03 PM

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good to hear

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:04 PM

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What was your build again?

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:05 PM

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re: GN video: interesting how much news time yield related chips are getting these days :)

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i have never mentioned my personal rig aside from what case i am using :)

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:06 PM

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why is that?

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:06 PM

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on which part Nike?

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rig or video?

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:07 PM

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rig

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:07 PM

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because it doesnt matter much :)

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Ok

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Very true

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:07 PM

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but, because you asked

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currently i am typing from the workshop/table machine, which is an old 4770s, in a node304

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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I have no idea

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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The node is a beautiful case

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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also, it does not really make much logical sense to mention some of the servers i work on

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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So simple yet so elegant

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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aye, it is a lovely case

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does the job and doesnt look like something super expensive

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Exactly

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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and it is nice and sturdy for the situations where you might need to stack things

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Fractal has always had cases like that

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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aye

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@upper condor whats your build?

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Dont have one currently

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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also, the amount of time i have for games is very limited

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Sold it to pay for my new one

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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so .. yeah :)

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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what was your most recent build

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Bad

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It was from like 2016

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Had a 1070

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I5

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I kinda scammed someone but not that much

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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i’m beginning to see why building your own is better than prebuilts for reasons other than just price

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Exactly

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I think its more fun

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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not even just that

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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aside from the personal enjoyment that you hopefully get from that.

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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you get to have exactly what you want

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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the main point is "balance" of the parts

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Most prebuily focus on the cpu

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Idk why

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:13 PM

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a lot of prebuilts are skewed strongly in one direction

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because it is a number that is easy to convey to the consumer

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:13 PM

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and you can have parts that are more equal to each other

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like i was looking at digital storm

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ok i don’t remember which one

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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DS do some lovely case work (at times)

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which is a fairly BIG part of the price you pay

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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You'll find a 9700K with a 1660

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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but there was a prebuilt for $999 with an i9 processor with a 1660

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YES

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Exactly

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terrible for its price

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you could get way much more with that money while building your own

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:15 PM

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this is a topic where i am fairly certain that i will get some flak for my opinion.

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but, it is not as expensive as it looks at first glance

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:16 PM

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some people just look at the colorful case and get drawn in by cyber power and alienware

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:16 PM

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learning to build a machine (both specwise and assembly wise etc etc) has a cost associated with it

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and that cost is very often "forgotten" when people recommend that people should just build their own

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"oh, it is easy to learn"

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"it wont take long"

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those reasons/arguments dont really change the fact that time spent has a cost associated with it

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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don’t you need like certain bracelets or something to keep the static from messing with the motherboard

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:18 PM

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for people that are still in school, the cost is not as high

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re:antistatic bracelets: yes, in theory you should use them. But depending on workspace it doesnt matter one bit

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:19 PM

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people told me to build in my garage

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instead of indoors on carpet

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:19 PM

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but, for an adult that is working? the cost is high enough (in my opinion) that it cannot be ignored.

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Yeah because its not just money thats the cost, also time

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:20 PM

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aye

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and when you have a limited amount of that? ... it has a high cost

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there are plenty of people that only have 3-5 hours per week where they are not actively doing something

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:22 PM

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what are your thoughts on hp omen pcs

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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by pc you are talking about the desktop machines or do you mean the brand in general?

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:24 PM

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desktop

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i like their mice and keyboards

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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their pricing seems reasonable for what it is

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mind, i am calculating the assembly time and knowledge into this

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i am not really a fan of how it looks visually

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but then again, i am not the target demographic for it either :)

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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i actually had a friend a few months ago who was selling an rtx 2070 for $130

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brand new

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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did it come with a fire extinguisher?

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I missed out on such a deal

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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imo, that is way too low

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i would not be willing to touch that for worry about it not being obtained in a legal way

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Yeah same

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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no he bought it on accident

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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does not matter

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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hes pretty rich

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his parents are surgeons

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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then he could return it

sacred obsidian Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Why not return it to get all money back

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That’s sketch

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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he has money to spend

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Ok and?

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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does not logically compute

sacred obsidian Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Still sketch

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Doesnt mean he should

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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He buys dumb stuff all the time

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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My family is (not bragging) pretty wealthy but we still save money

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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anyway he was only selling it at school

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Because its smarter

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:31 PM

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and so

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he sold it to my other friend for $130

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and I promise you guys this

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:32 PM

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i know it sounds like a "reasonable" logic Nike, just please understand that to us? that sounds sketchy as all heck

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:32 PM

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it’s in stock should i get it now

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📎 image0.png

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Up to you

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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it will press your budget up to the 800 mark

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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nope

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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so as he said above, it is your choice

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we dont count coupons

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because that rebate is triggered later

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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it would only bring it to around $760

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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see above :)

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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minus the rebate

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:34 PM

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the "close to 700" list is without the rebate

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what you are seeing is the total WITH rebate subtracted

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Do you know how to do or what a mail in rebate is @wind leaf?

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:35 PM

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him and me talked briefly about it

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he pm'ed me late last night

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Oh ok good

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@foggy hazel im back

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:36 PM

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but as i said, i have a limited amount of knowledge about it, because it is not something we do here in denmark :)

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@leaden lark that was quick :)

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 7:37 PM

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lol yea ik

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hop into vc?

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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one moment :)

sudden turret Jan 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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😮

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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awesiome

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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yes i know. it was $699 without the rebate

leaden lark Jan 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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can u hear me now?

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yea

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im getting my vc is working for me

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gamer can hear me

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:41 PM

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so if we replace the 1660ti which is $243, it will only be around a $60 difference

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Ill be in VC in like 5 minutes

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 7:42 PM

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the ryzen 7 is on sale too

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but i don’t need it

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i’ll just stick with the original

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 7:53 PM

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re: 1660ti: that is true. that is my mistake @wind leaf, i was certain it was closer to 200

foggy hazel Jan 23, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@upper condor sorry mate, fixed it in a direct voice call (video available that way)

upper condor Jan 23, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Yep

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That's fine

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Had to do something else either way

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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tough tough decisions

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i’m not going to buy them all at 1 time

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i’ll just buy the 2060 ko ,the 2600, the mobo, and the case today

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 10:13 PM

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idk, I'd go 1600AF and 5700 if not streaming

woven horizon Jan 23, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Anyone ever taken a drimel to their ram to make their aio fit? I did 🤣

wind leaf Jan 23, 2020, 10:55 PM

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@cursive wharf i want to stream tho

cursive wharf Jan 23, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Then that's good

gentle bay Jan 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I have a question concerning the icue software

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Do i need to have the RBG lightning node thing to change the fans rbg

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ot

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or*

woven horizon Jan 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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YES

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📎 Screenshot_55.png

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Can someone help me I’m new to building PCs and I need help bad

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 2:58 AM

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wassup

teal bison Jan 24, 2020, 2:58 AM

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sure

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:15 AM

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@wispy matrix here is something to start with

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFg8jp

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i would refine that list as you like

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Alright

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:16 AM

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and get more opinions.

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Hei is good with power supplies (im not) so you could ask him about what psu to get, naed and spatula are really good with refining builds, espeicially naed if confined to a budget i believe. bekora is also really helpful. if you can get one of them on they can be super helpful people to get what you want

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Your a big help

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:18 AM

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lol thats what we're here for

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 3:29 AM

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wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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is an i7-6800k good with a rtx 2060??

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is it better than the ryzen 5 2600??

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Is that Cpu good enough for streaming while gaming ??

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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i would say go ryzen. theyre the best all around in the current gen

wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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thanks

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not to mention it’s cheaper

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but my friend offered me the i7-6800k for $160

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wanted to see if that was a steal

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 4:50 AM

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yeah. the bottleneck is low in both so you wouldnt really experience bottleneck in either cpu, but its general knowledge that amd is the top right now

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may change soon though we will see.

wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 4:51 AM

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so i shouldn’t go with the i7

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okay.

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I love my 3700x

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 5:42 AM

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@wind leaf the i7 6800k isn't really worth it

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The i7 6900k however

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It's nice

wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 5:43 AM

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i’m sticking with the r5 2600

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thanks tho

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Noooo

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You didn't get my funny joke

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 5:44 AM

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i didnt either

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 5:50 AM

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What else do you guys suggest to put in my case

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 5:53 AM

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You guys are uncultured

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 6:00 AM

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dont talk to me like that peter griffin

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:01 AM

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😳 😳 😤

wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 6:12 AM

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idk if a coolermaster q300l is good enough for my matx build

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makes me think that i’d have to buy more fans

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:17 AM

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You would

teal bison Jan 24, 2020, 6:21 AM

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most cases only come with 1 or 2 fans

obsidian rock Jan 24, 2020, 8:40 AM

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69 lol @viral ore

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@wind leaf for now, things will work just fine

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your parts are not exactly super hot

jaunty karma Jan 24, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Hey @foggy hazel

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Remember me?

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 1:55 PM

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nope

jaunty karma Jan 24, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Its xGalaxyWolfzx

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Its budget guy

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@foggy hazel

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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yes, i know.

jaunty karma Jan 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Well

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I just spent 80$

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On ram

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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good for you.

jaunty karma Jan 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Now for An 120$ mobo

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And 20$ cpu cooler

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40$ on rgb fans

sharp perch Jan 24, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Tryna build a pc

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Need help

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 2:52 PM

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For what use?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Tryna build a pc for gaming and editing with a budget of 1200

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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no streaming right?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Prob a little bit

hollow grove Jan 24, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I’m still tryna find the cheapest of the cheap parts for my cousins pc

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Or I guess it’s mine but I’m selling it

sharp perch Jan 24, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Nah not for streaming

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 3:07 PM

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@wispy matrix https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6HgRzN

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:08 PM

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You have the budget to not use a cheap NVMe

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Might as well use a decent NVMe

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Rather then DRAMless/no HMB

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Also 212 is pretty pricy for what it is tbh

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@wispy matrix i believe @sacred obsidian mentioned me yesterday

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I think he did

sharp perch Jan 24, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Naed can you help me

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:12 PM

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can you elaborate a bit on what you wanted and what you potentially plan on (long term) for the machine @wispy matrix ?

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@sharp perch i do believe you have had your questions answered a bunch of times and ignored the answers all the times

sharp perch Jan 24, 2020, 3:14 PM

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No but I just wanna know what I should get I know every time I change things is because I don’t know for sure if I can get it but the only thing I wanna know is case and I know no one is online sometimes but idk what ssd is good and what is better for me @foggy hazel

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:15 PM

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read back in the backlog of #storage-devices and #cases-psu-and-cooling @sharp perch

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I want a gaming pc that will help me play games like modern warfare etc and i like designing stuff on my free time and I plan on using it like normally

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:16 PM

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are you in school? do you plan to move into your own in the near future? would you like something that does not scream "gamer"?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I’m in school

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:17 PM

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it is okay if you dont want to answer all the things

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the more we know, the easier it is to help you

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I’m in high school, in 3 years I will try to move to an apartment

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It doesn’t have to scream gamer

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:21 PM

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your budget, is that for the machine alone? or is that with monitor and other peripherals included?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I have a mouse keyboard and mousepad

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And monitors

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And my budget is 1200

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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aye aye

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give me ... 5-10 minutes

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Ok

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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last question: Wifi?

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do you want/need that?

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I built a machine somewhere yesterday to start with but I can’t access it right now lol

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Pretty sure that can be a good 1440p machine, even if 950~ and spend rest on monitor

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Not rn naed

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I have tons of extra monitors

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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But 1440 monitors?

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Or just 1080 and less

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@wispy matrix but not saying no if the machine comes with it? (wifi that is)

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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If it comes with it comes with it

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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fair enough.

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Think about apartment as well

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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He could always buy a good machine and run at 1080 and get a new monitor at 1440 later lol

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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And hei I’m in school rn

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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being hard wired in will always be better

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Not always accessible tho ecks

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Talking about future then you said you'd be moving

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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That’s 3 years from now

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Also I use WiFi on my main rig and get the same speeds as wired lol

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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xD

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wifi = ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
cable = -------------------------------

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Generally you'd get better latency and LAN speeds off WIFI as most internet plans aren't over the wifi speed cap

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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i use my phone usb tether only .. modem wifi -> phone -> pc xD

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Why tho

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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That is, if you're aren't in a bad place with lots of interference or have a bad router. Then lots of dropped packages

sacred obsidian Jan 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Why not modern WiFi to PC

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 3:28 PM

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devices that uses 2.4ghz also interfere with wifi

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and if you had disney castle house

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xD

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our house is smoll pp only haha

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 3:29 PM

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ethernet though will always be better

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Depends. If phones alwaysed used ethernet and had no wifi, pretty sure that'd be a worse experience

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:39 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yTKyV7

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How does this look?

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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PSU is pretty meh

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Yeah

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Ik that phanteks one exists

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But it is missing a power connector

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So dont know

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I'd take RM/RMx or Phanteks AMP over that
Also the extra 4 pin EPS isn't one to be concerned about

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Why not

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Im not PSU jesus like you sorry

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:42 PM

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The 8 pin EPS supplies 300w of power, no AM4 CPU takes that

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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generally only there for OC stability (if you listen to the PR department)

muted patio Jan 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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It's an Intel build......

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Yeah

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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brain dead there

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9700k takes 200w at high OCs iirc

muted patio Jan 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Yeah

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I mean could a U12S even do 5ghz all cores?

muted patio Jan 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Only the 8 pin is needed

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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If you plan to go 9900k with major OC in the future, then go for it I guess

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Na

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So phanteks amp?

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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That or RM/RMx

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Whatever is cheaper

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Ok

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What about the case/fans?

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The case comes with none btw

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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@wispy matrix sorry for the delay

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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It’s fine

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:48 PM

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upHere has some cheap RGB fan packs

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Asiahorse too if I recall

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Thats why i got them

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:48 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7KvHRk <- this is a suggestion with a couple of quirks to it

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Even just 6 normal fans would be more than that

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Ok ill look

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Hmmmm lemme edit it a bit

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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RAM is cl17, basically cl18 due to rounding to even number

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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the other kits around that is cl19

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Ripjaw V should have cl16 at about 80$

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Price got higher or smth?

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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82$

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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hm, was not showing up here

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lets try again then

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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@upper condor going 6 can get worse perf depending on the case. Most aren't properly designed to run max fans and tend to get turbulence or smth

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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and now it is the other way around, the ripjaws show up, but the other kit doesnt

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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thats wierd

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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thank you for the shoutout on ripjaws

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at least that is fixed

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@wispy matrix https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z3L66R

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:53 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yDP227

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Wow the case on this must be high quality

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:54 PM

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who is that build for @upper condor ?

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:55 PM

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This one is for nobody

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:55 PM

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kk

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Im currently picking parts for a friend tho

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:55 PM

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ah

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:56 PM

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He has a budget of 3k but i dont think if hes playinf at 1440p he should spend that much

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:56 PM

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you should probably grab some 3600 ram at least :)

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yeag he doesnt know much about pc's

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@cursive wharf a replacement for the seasonic, but 650watt? (in the build i posted 5 minutes ago for @wispy matrix)

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 3:58 PM

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He doesn't want rgb either

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Naed the reason I want a new pc also somehow my USB ports broke in my old computer

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:02 PM

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as in, when you plug something in. the device does not get recognized?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:02 PM

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And the other reason and the FPS on that computer is low

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Naed nope

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I plug in my mouse and it doesn’t turn on

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And my keyboard

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:02 PM

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just to make certain, you have tried those devices on other machines?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Yes

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They work fine

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:02 PM

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good

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(just have to make certain you know :) )

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I’ve dealt with 200 dollar computers but nothing bigger than 700

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:03 PM

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this is a fair bit bigger than that

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Ik

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:04 PM

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the thoughts behind what i have chosen to spend money on is this:

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longevity and future planning

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with a dash of "dont stand out"

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the case is a simple black box, only a few distinct design lines and that is it

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i chose a mainboard with wifi, simply to give you the option in the future for going that route

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the reasonic psu choice is two-fold. I know them very well, and i put a fair amount of weight on the 10 year warranty they come with

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the downside to that choice is price, hence why i asked @cursive wharf for a different option.

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does that make sense @wispy matrix ?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Yes

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:09 PM

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any savings that could be made would be pushed into a decent CPU cooler, because the rest of the system is basically quiet/silent

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:09 PM

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I might change the case tho

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That’s about it tho

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:10 PM

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as i said, the psu you have on the list, should be equally well served by something a bit cheaper, but again, i dont recommend parts i dont know

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might i ask what case you would change to @wispy matrix ? (and no, i am not going to judge if you want a pink case)

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i am just curious

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:12 PM

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It’s not gonna be a case

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And I can’t post pics

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:12 PM

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wallmount?

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so, in other words, the 1200 budget is without a case?

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:13 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353179

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It’s a case

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:13 PM

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fair enough :)

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as long as that is what you want :)

wispy matrix Jan 24, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Your a big help

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Thx

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:14 PM

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np

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Phanteks AMP or RM/RMx. 550w AMP should be $90 and 650w is $100 iirc @foggy hazel

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:16 PM

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thank you @cursive wharf

cursive wharf Jan 24, 2020, 4:17 PM

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np

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:30 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZgRzN

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Hows this

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:31 PM

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i think my beard turned rainbow coloured by clicking that link

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Lol yeah

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Thats the idea

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Its pretty much all corsair lol

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Could get a corsair nvme drive for a bit more, or by shaving $ on other parts if you wanna really commit haha.

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Bruh

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:34 PM

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The MP610's, although expensive, really are some of the best consumer drives.

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:34 PM

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The gen4 is like 2000000000 dollars

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:34 PM

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At launch, ya, some models have gone on sale for reasonable $ imo

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:34 PM

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210 rn

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Not reasonable for me, im just gaming

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Even if not using 4.0, the phison controller on those drives will still give you 99% of the real world benefits on 3.0.

But ya, depends how much you wanna go full corsair haha

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:36 PM

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give it time

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:36 PM

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mp510 480 is 130

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Lol

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Yeah

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:36 PM

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still waiting for good gen4 drives

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some got announced at CES

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time will tell if they are actually good

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Wonder if theres any brands that make every piece

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:37 PM

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every piece of the machine or the drive?

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I want to see intel put out a more attractively priced p4801x or optane 905p

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:37 PM

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attractive for who?

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Every piece of everything

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Msi?

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:38 PM

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consumer/prosumer/enterprise , I'm salty they void warranty for running consumer optane in ESXI

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P4800x is "sell a kidney" price usually

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:38 PM

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aye, it is

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Not cpu tho

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 4:39 PM

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If just gaming you can just use a 2.5" SSD

celest horizon Jan 24, 2020, 4:39 PM

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can, but >all but the cheapest, poor choice

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:39 PM

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not quite the segment we are talking about @latent bronze

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I mean i just cant find a decent price 1tb 2.5

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 4:41 PM

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mx500 is not bad

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Would of recommended the one i am using but marketplace sellers are only selling it now on Newegg

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Wait nvm Newegg is selling it https://www.newegg.com/team-group-l5-lite-3d-1tb/p/N82E16820331115

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been using this on my main system and laptop (main system for over a year) and no issues what so ever

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Idk the crucial p1 is 99

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M.2 1tb

wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@foggy hazel but what if i get a 2060 ko

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 5:58 PM

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No team plz

latent bronze Jan 24, 2020, 5:58 PM

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No Mr1111 plz

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Alr bye

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:21 PM

#

Wait I thought you put the gold dot on the opposite site of the gold triangle when putting in a cpu

#

Now I bent pins 😢

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:21 PM

#

intel or amd

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Intel

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:22 PM

#

yeahh, they changed it a few times over the course of the past few generations

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9th gen is dot to triangle iirc

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7th or 8th they switched it

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:23 PM

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There old is dot opposite to triangle

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:25 PM

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so

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i guess try to get tweezers and fix the pins

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I mean they are ewaste pcs so idc bout them to much

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:30 PM

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oh lol

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Sassy I make games in unreal so do you think this is over kill i9-99k with 2080ti with 32gb of ddr4 3600 over kill

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I need to be able to render stuff while still working on the actual game

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:32 PM

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well, most rendering applications will use all of your cores

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Blender is what I use so

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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how often do you think you will be rendering and doing other things at the same time?

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Every day

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:33 PM

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huh

#

hmmmmm

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i think your budget will be better spent on the cpu and motherboard than on the gpu

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:34 PM

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So we are making custom assets so everything will be modeled in blender

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I9 10900?

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:34 PM

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i was thinking an amd beast

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they have the cheapest per core procs

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Really never heard of it I'll look at it

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:35 PM

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no, i was just saying an amd cpu

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i was using beast as an adjective

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Oh lol okay

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:36 PM

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wait, so do you plan on cpu or gpu rendering

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prob shouldve asked that first

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:37 PM

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What do you thi do k about this

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viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:37 PM

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haha, yes

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this will shred any cpu blender render lmao

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the ryzen 9 3950x is 16c

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so double the 9900k

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Lol

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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and its about 750

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Damn okay

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I mean 64 cores cant go wrong lol

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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but, since the 2080ti is kinda overkill

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wait, do you want an 8k cpu?

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I'll game to but idk I know someone selling a titan x

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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like, if you got the budget

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Titan x pascal.

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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3000 or less possibly

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

?*

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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ok

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Idk

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Server guy

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I think its founders

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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oh yeah, there are 2 different titan x

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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wait for the 3990X

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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LMAO

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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new threadripper thats 64 core

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I'm not sure

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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he dont got that kinda budget tho

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Oh my b

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thought he was getting a god system because of the epyc

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:40 PM

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3000 or less I have the case btw it's the Hyper Beast h440 limited edition

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Oh lol the 3990X is 4k

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:41 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3950569&Description=3960x

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that leaves you 1300 for everything else

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I mean thats decent

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good mobo, 2070s

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32gb ram no problem

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:42 PM

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for constant cpu rendering, he needs them cores

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:42 PM

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3950X

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Oh he will need a good psu and cooler if he goes for tr

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:42 PM

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true

#

a solid 700-850w psu should be enough

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 6:43 PM

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650w can do it

#

750 would be optimal

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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That's a deal and a half

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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yeah

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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650w gaming ready vr 80+ diamond rgb asus aura sync

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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huh?

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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The best psu

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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80+ diamond isnt a thing

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Ik

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im kidding

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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o lol

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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On wish.com it is

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Kek

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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PogChamp

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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You can buy a 1080ti om there for 200 dollars

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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They are dake

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fake

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dont

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Ik they are I'm messing with you lol

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Also sassy I will need a lot of storage because I am already using 2tb

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:46 PM

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yeah, so an AMD 3960x, 32gb of ram, a 2080s, a 650w psu,

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ok

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i assume in a raid config?

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:47 PM

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How ever works best

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Because I cant stand my external drives

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:47 PM

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is the data your storing important?

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if you lost one of these drives

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how bad would that be

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 6:48 PM

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It would be bad we dont upload our work until needed so it sits on the drives

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 6:48 PM

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raid 0 it is

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is 32gb enough?

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or is that just your estimate

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@wind leaf in what context?

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Why nike.

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?

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 6:53 PM

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he pinged me earlier @upper condor

upper condor Jan 24, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Ahh ok

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i sent him the link to the prebuilts pcpartpicker put together

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 6:54 PM

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https://puu.sh/F3iqH/4893f5ca64.png <- this is what he asked

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and i am asking for context, because i have no idea about what basis he is asking on/from

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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hmm i wonder what would happen if he get 2060 ko

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I'm back @viral ore my bad lol

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 7:18 PM

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k

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also, newegg wants to charge 200 in tax on a 2500 dollar purchase

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so your budget is really like 2750 if you order on newegg

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 7:19 PM

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pff who pays taxes jk xD

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 7:20 PM

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also, i found a really good deal on a 650w titanium psu

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but the sale ends in like 3 days

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when were you planning on ordering

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 7:21 PM

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nice

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@little osprey

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Ok

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Can you PM the specs

viral ore Jan 24, 2020, 7:24 PM

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sure, in a bit

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Thanks man for the help

weary igloo Jan 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Hey all, built my old computer back up for my little bro and am having some troubles getting past boot up. Stuck on setup screen and won’t let me out. Motherboard is showing

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Code ab or a6

teal bison Jan 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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what mb do you have?

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I found a IBM z890 if anyone is interested lol

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It weights 2300 pounds lol

sudden turret Jan 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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lol

weary igloo Jan 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@teal bison ASRock z77 extreme 4

subtle halo Jan 24, 2020, 9:56 PM

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ibm?

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 9:58 PM

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international business machines

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and the z890 is a mainframe

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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How do you replace the front case fan on my case

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 10:06 PM

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@little osprey what case

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Phantek enthoo pro

stoic island Jan 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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One secons

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Do you want to replace it with new different fans or replace with a new one of the original ones

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Huh thats a 200mm fan up front

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 10:45 PM

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There sending me a replacement

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It’s making a static noise

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Since I took the hard drive trays out I can easily take the fan out

prime spear Jan 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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yeet

wind leaf Jan 24, 2020, 11:03 PM

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@foggy hazel in the context of my parts overheating. Will a 2060 ko affect it more?

foggy hazel Jan 24, 2020, 11:04 PM

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not really

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not in a way that you need to worry about

little osprey Jan 24, 2020, 11:08 PM

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@stoic island it’s the tg one

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It says 140 for the front

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 1:08 AM

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at what point should you switch from b450 to x570?

foggy hazel Jan 25, 2020, 1:08 AM

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when there is something you absolutely "need" on x570

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 1:09 AM

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does it not matter if i just use b450 all the way up to 3950x?

foggy hazel Jan 25, 2020, 1:09 AM

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currently i would say there is nothing for the owner of a gaming machine there.

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depends on what you want to do

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it is a complicated question to answer @teal bison

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because it involves a LOT of factors

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if you are curious enough about it, we can take a chat about it tomorrow?

cursive wharf Jan 25, 2020, 1:12 AM

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unless you have a fair bit of airflow going over the VRMs of the mobo, b450 will rarely be a decently good idea for 3950x

trail perch Jan 25, 2020, 1:27 AM

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https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=%2F8m641z%2Ftme7wEZzCh4PEQ%3D%3D

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 1:39 AM

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ok interesting thanks for the info

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also sorry for late reply had to go

ember sierra Jan 25, 2020, 3:28 AM

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It wouldn’t be worth paying twice for some gskill ram just to have it black instead of red, ey?

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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It’s up to you , maybe you care a lot about how it looks like

timid bronze Jan 25, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Hey guys im planning a new setup and im thinking about the alex drawr and ikea counter top, what do you think? And is there a preffered counter top?

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 6:06 AM

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anyone know why this happens? whenever i use the rectangle select thing it turns that part of the desktop black.

📎 wtfishappening.png

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a restart fixes it and it happens randomly

viral ore Jan 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Do you notice any other issues?

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

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no i can launch all my programs and play games

viral ore Jan 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

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It might just be a windows bug

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Is your windows activated?

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

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ya

viral ore Jan 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Did you set your wallpaper through the windows settings?

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

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i think so. its been so long

foggy hazel Jan 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

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that looks/sounds like a corrupt gpu driver

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but, that is only a guess

viral ore Jan 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Try changing your wallpaper to something else

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

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its been happening for a while and ive updated my drivers since the first time its started

foggy hazel Jan 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

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hm

viral ore Jan 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Do a solid color

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That isnt black

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See what happens

teal bison Jan 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

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ok

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actually there is a driver update ill install that real quick

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ya i guess that fixed it

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changing the wallpaper not the driver

prime spear Jan 25, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Yo can someone make me the best price to performance build between a 2-3 thousand dollar budget?

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With Decent Mouse Keyboard and Monitor. BTW

lyric thistle Jan 25, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Dell Optiplex 780 with

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Dell peripherals

limpid merlin Jan 25, 2020, 7:35 AM

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at 2-3k there is no such thing as price to performance

foggy hazel Jan 25, 2020, 7:49 AM

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quite wrong

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an simple 600-800 could easily be used on the monitor(s)

timid bronze Jan 25, 2020, 8:12 AM

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How much can i sell my pc for? Specs: intel i5 7500, gtx 1050 ti, 16gb ddr4 ram 2600 mhz.

surreal surge Jan 25, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Mobo and storage?

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:41 AM

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@foggy hazel

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need a case

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under 60$

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:42 AM

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@jaunty karma Lian Li o-11 dynamic

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lmao

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:43 AM

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lian products arent available

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:43 AM

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its not worth it to cheap out your case

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trust

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:43 AM

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uhh

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then what case

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:43 AM

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@jaunty karmawhat kind of build

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:43 AM

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atx mid tower

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glass

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:44 AM

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like do you have alot of rgb

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:44 AM

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yes

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in the future

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:44 AM

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oh

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if you want the best bang for your buck, then get o11 dynamic

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@jaunty karma

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:46 AM

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that isnt cheap

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its a price of a decent gpu

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@little osprey

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:49 AM

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wdym

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its like 110

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or maybe you looked at the o11 xl

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the o11 dynamic is 110£

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@jaunty karma

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:50 AM

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it looks like you can put 9 fans

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and the psu isnt visible

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:51 AM

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its more for a water-cooled build

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:51 AM

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wel

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im air cooling

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:51 AM

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oh

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fractal design meshify c or focus g

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:51 AM

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meshify

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is expensive

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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focus g

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Sinus

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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what

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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you arent retiring yet

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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lmao

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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fractal design aint available

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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then again

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cases under 60£ aint worth it

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Facts

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:53 AM

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how about a Rakk Haliya?

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40$

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:53 AM

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no

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:53 AM

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have you even seen it yet

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_>

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:53 AM

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no

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owo

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:54 AM

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_>

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📎 yeet.jpg

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rakk haliya

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Kirisu are you looking for a case?

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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YES

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MY CASE LACK AIRFLOW

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sorry caps

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Budget?

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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60$

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Dang

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If you fork out like 20 more I have a good one

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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what is it

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

#

📎 IMG_20200125_095644.jpg

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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it only matters if its available

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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it is

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in stock

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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well

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ql300 is only available

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Wait is it in pounds?

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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_>
yeah

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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for me yeah

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Oh nvm sorry

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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it doesn't matter with cheap cases

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but a 140$ case will cost 100£

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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I

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know

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i live in the uk

little osprey Jan 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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nice

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60$ cases aint worth it

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Yeah

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the rosewill prism s

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is like 80 and comes with 4 fans

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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well it sucks living in the philippines

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Sorry

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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everything here

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some items arent available

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some brands dont even exist here

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;-;

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 10:08 AM

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F

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 10:09 AM

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what are things to check before buying an SSD ? and when comparing them

foggy hazel Jan 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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flash type, controller type (with details)

lyric thistle Jan 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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whether it has cache or not

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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my case lacks airflow

lyric thistle Jan 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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suppose that applies to hdds too

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oof

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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when i have my front panel on my gpu is very hoty

lyric thistle Jan 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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can you get case fans?

jaunty karma Jan 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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when i remove it its so cold

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@little osprey

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matrexx 55 mesh

cedar ember Jan 25, 2020, 2:49 PM

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can you have a to good part for a pc

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Like, the parts are too good?

cedar ember Jan 25, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Ya

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Yeah

cedar ember Jan 25, 2020, 2:51 PM

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1070 ti and a i9 9900k

sullen spoke Jan 25, 2020, 3:03 PM

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A 9900k with a 1070 ti?

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Bruh

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i mean like a 3990X(when it comes out) and like 4 titan rtx cards

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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If i have a budget of 1500-1700 to build a pc(for 1080p 144hz until i upgrade) what type if stuff should it have

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Or rather, how much should i spend on each part

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:45 PM

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You can get 144 frames on pretty much every games with a 2060Super~ or 5700 (maybe 5600XT) so that’s for the GPU

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And for a cpu 3600 will do all you need at your price point for your build

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Im planning to upgrade to 1440p 144hz eventually though

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So it would be nice if i could just but parts for a 1440p 144hz right now

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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2070S

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Or would that cost more than 1500-1700?

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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2070 super

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Yeah

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Umm you’ll be fine

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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What cpu?

#

3600 still or 3700

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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3600 will do the job

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Yeah that’s right

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3700 if you need Cores / threads

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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3600 is all you need for gaming

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Na

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Im just gaming

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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3600 is all you neeed then

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Non-x right

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Non-x is totally fine

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Just get a better cooler yeah

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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stock cooler is fine and can be upgraded later if trying to save

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Na

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Id rather spend more now

#

Any case recommendations?

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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You can buy a cooler but it isn’t necessary

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Thats the main problem for ne

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:52 PM

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There are different options, but usually ones with mesh front are the ones I can recommend

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What’s the problem with thecooler ?

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I like odd cases so not the best to ask make sure you have plenty of room for all components also a psu shield on the bottom is nice for cable management

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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No i mean finding a good case

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Ah

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I heard great things about Meshify C

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Same

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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the mesh front ones all have great airflow

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Don’t get an NZXT case, design is nice but the airflow is really not that great

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Heard that too

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Yep

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Ziky the case u have is beautiful

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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In a 1700 price range you could also buy case fans

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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If u have it

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Yeah, actually a friend is giving it to me in a few days 🙂

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

#

that phanteks case is nice looking

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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But it’s kinda "overkill" for what I’m putting inside

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😂

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Big budget build

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Whats going in?

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Well I’ll take it since it’s looks nice from the outside

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I’m planning on building a 2600+1650Super build

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I love my coolermaster HAF XB EVO cases but they aren't pretty. Excellent airflow, real handles and horizontal mobo mount with removable tray for test benching

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Nilb you work with computers?

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For a job, at least

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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not really

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I help design beverage dispensors

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lol

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

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You just like having a test bench and testing computer hardware?

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

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well I use lots of computers for work and home

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

#

Facts

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:00 PM

#

https://graphicscardhub.com/best-airflow-case/ check this out, first link

Graphics Card Hub

Akshat Verma

Best Airflow Case for Building a Gaming or Work PC in 2020

Best Airflow Cases for Gaming and Work PC. These high airflow PC cases come with mesh front panel, plenty of fan mount points and good ventilation. High airflow computer cases keep the temperature of your internal components lower compared to other cases with a solid front pa...

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:00 PM

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its nice even for a normal user to be able to lift out the whole mother board without unscrewing anything. but those cases are all function not pretty to look at

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Yeag

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If im spending over 1k, i want it to look pretty too

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

#

my main gaming pc is in a thermaltake level 20 xt

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Ill get the obsidian 1000D

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Half my budget lol

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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lol

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I like cubes

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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There are lots of beautiful airflow cases out there on the market I’m sure

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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The p400a digital rgb looks nice

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I can state for a fact the lvl 20xt does not have great airflow but it is huge so that helps

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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I heard good things about P400A too

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Out of stock rn tho

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Everywhere ?

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

#

thats a little small too

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

#

Gamers nexus loved it a ton

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For thermals

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Which is pretty crazy for them

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Kinda pricey

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Its usually 100

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Amazon resellers

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

#

just be cautious if you want to put a rad in there make sure it fits first

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its like 69.99 on newegg or at least a version of it

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I swear ive been looking for a good case for over a week

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I’ve been looking for a good mobo 🙂

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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But its so hard to find a good thermals, nice looking, inexpensive one

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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There are lots lots lots of options indeed

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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For a 2600?

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Whats the criteria

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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I’m going to opt for a pro VDH Max

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Good choice

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Just ocing a bit, and not burning hot

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MB

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That’s all I need

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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2600? why

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Even though it’s m-atx it’s a good way to save some bucks

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Why not ?

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Can’t afford a 3600

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

#

but its like $40

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

#

Yeag

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

#

?

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Its cheap right now

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179.99

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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I’m not in the States 😦

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

#

2600 = $120 3600 = $160

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oh 😦

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

#

Oh

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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$210 where i live

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

#

well that makes sense at least

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

#

Yeah

#

My b

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

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And 2600 is only $101

#

Kinda strange prices

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

#

oh well at least thats good

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Ur case is almost 2x more than ur cpu

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Kek

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I’m not buying the case lol

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

#

Ik

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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A friend got a new one and doesn’t want to throw an evolv x away

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So why not

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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He must be rich

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Id sell that on ebay

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Easy 130 bucks

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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eBay and all that is kinda complex in South Korea

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Ohhhhhhh

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I thought u were like in europe oops

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

#

And since he’s not an adult yet so just giving it to someone is much easier for him

#

Nah

narrow rose Jan 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

#

are samsung things cheaper there?

upper condor Jan 25, 2020, 4:13 PM

#

Whats the intel equivalent of 3600?

#

Dont care if its a bit more

vivid atlas Jan 25, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Depends on what Samsung

#

What objects