#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 455

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 12:04 AM

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wait shouldnt matter

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has HBM so yee
edit: now im dum dum. I really shouldnt talk about SSDs till I learn more. Dont listen to all this

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:06 AM

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The whole point of having benefits is to use them really but if there is no difference in the performance if you're not doing anything heavy you could save like 4$ instead for the same storage but going with a 2.5" SSD

cedar portal Jan 7, 2020, 12:08 AM

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well, until i get a case, HD space is an issue, i've collected several smaller(1TB and smaller) drives over the years and haven't consolidated them into a large one

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Well you have options like this SSD https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MC3H99/team-gx2-512-gb-25-solid-state-drive-t253x2512g0c101

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and also if you already own a SSD and HDD i would suggest using the SSD you have now for your OS and games on the HDD

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:12 AM

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should i get an AIO or the Noctua DH-15 chromax.black? I've heard it's better and quieter than most aios at it's price point

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Depends on your CPU

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i would say

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:12 AM

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planning on getting the i5-9600k

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:13 AM

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@cedar portal just showing you this is just the difference for loading windows https://i.gyazo.com/230b10e3677890e1d9989263a7daf1d4.jpg

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 12:13 AM

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@latent bronze GX2 is dram-less, so not that good

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no HMB for that "close to DRAM speeds" either

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@cursive wharf I have that one in my laptop right now as the only drive and i haven't had any issues for a few months now

cedar portal Jan 7, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I would say that it depends on whether you want the cooler to be, open for increased air flow or large surface for increased cooling

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I would only recommend something i have personally use and the only other one i would of suggested would of been like 100$ for him but a 1TB instead

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 12:15 AM

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For comparing to competition it isnt good. But as it's an SSD and DRAM isnt crucial to everything in perf it doesnt change everything

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Nice thing about AIO's is that the heat never goes into the case from the CPU if they're used as exhaust

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Bekora unless someone messed up on the fans

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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@muted patio yeah, they're also a lot louder tho. and if you're getting a case with good airflow (as i am) it shouldn't really matter either way

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Nah, AIO's aren't louder

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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however if you lack DRAM then perf will drop. If it has HMB you can get close to DRAM speeds on average

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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My system is silent with an AIO, even when it gets warm it's still quiet

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:17 AM

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At the under-100 price point, would you recommend getting the DH-15 or a cheap aio?

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 12:17 AM

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since my fans are not system controlled I set the controller to max and leave it there

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:17 AM

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under $100 go air

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:17 AM

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The only way an AIO would be louder if you have the fans on the rad working 100% all the time

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:17 AM

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$125 is the price point for an AIO IMO, a good one

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:17 AM

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alright cool

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@muted patio There has been some good one's that are under 100$

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Deepcool?

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Deepcool and cooler master

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Back and you have Rosewill and Gamdias

cedar portal Jan 7, 2020, 12:21 AM

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i couldn't find any literature that declared that that silicon power id dram less, but the info dump on both newegg and amazon said it has Host Memory Buffer

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Paging @muted patio

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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?

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Deepcool i wouldn't recommend as a AIO

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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@cedar portal Yes, the a60 has HMB, which gives close to DRAM perf

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however I rarely see the a60 be much cheaper than actual DRAM drives

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I bought a fairly cheap mesh case off of newegg, what do you guys think of this: (https://bit.ly/35rFApu)

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Want to give an actual link and not a shortcut like that

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:24 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-montech-air900-elegant/p/2AM-00CN-00003?Item=9SIAK919MC2418

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:24 AM

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please avoid shortened links, we dont mind long links 🙂

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:24 AM

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my bad boys

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:25 AM

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no problem

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 12:25 AM

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@lime forge should probs disable them

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auto remove then or somerthing

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:25 AM

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id suggest it, but mee6 isnt that good at detecting words.

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and my bot is dead

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gone

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along with all the other data

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when MacOS ate my hard drive

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D:<

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:25 AM

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wait what

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I thought we got that drive back?

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WHAT DID YOU DO THIS TIME?

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:26 AM

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nah

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my hard drive is gone

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my ssd is fine tho

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its okay...

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i only lost a couple of things

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80gbs of crap

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WAIT

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ALL MY EMULATORS ARE GONE

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Yes

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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thanks ecks

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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no problem

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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sigh

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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This is why i have external drives to back everything up

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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only things that i lost that were important was my minecraft servers, emulators, and discord bot

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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rip

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:27 AM

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other than that, i have no clue what was on it

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Zack i suggest something like this for the future https://www.newegg.com/corsair-model-cmfss3b-512gb/p/N82E16820236060

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Or just not installing MacOS

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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my dad has a 70tb home server that i can backup my pc to, but thank you

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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but anyway boys how does this look: https://www.newegg.com/black-montech-air900-elegant/p/2AM-00CN-00003?Item=9SIAK919MC2418

i already made the impulse purchase but if it doesn't look good i can return it

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Case looks fine to me

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Ill still rely more on external drives than a home server

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something happens to the server you have no idea what could happen to the drives in it

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This is why external storage devices will never die

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https://tenor.com/view/smart-meme-think-about-it-gif-7906618

Tenor

think about it

▶ Play video

cedar portal Jan 7, 2020, 12:31 AM

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I'm kind of enthralled with this unicorn vomit beast

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https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0035-00055?Description=anidees&cm_re=anidees-_-9SIA7TD8T76509-_-Product

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:32 AM

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marketing

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it wont look near that good.

rapid ridge Jan 7, 2020, 12:32 AM

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w i d e b o i

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:32 AM

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but ecks

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simple solution

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take out the hard drives, plug them into the pc

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get data off

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furthermore, we have another 50tb backup

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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all on different drives too

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i think they might be raided also

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:33 AM

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@cedar portal why not got for this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147308 or this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147300

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:33 AM

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wrong ping

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:34 AM

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what wrong ping i don't see it

lime forge Jan 7, 2020, 12:34 AM

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k

cedar portal Jan 7, 2020, 12:34 AM

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an alternative to the unicorn vomit

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147276

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Also the good thing about pen drives is you don't have to lug around something that could be heavy to bring to your system 😛

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Cullinan PX is actually a good case

cedar portal Jan 7, 2020, 12:36 AM

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the only thing I'd probably change would be to install some RGB fans instead of the static blue

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 12:48 AM

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@cedar portal the 2 cases i linked there comes with 4 RGB fans

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Hey anyone on to look at these to builds and tell me what they think and which one I should buy

daring hare Jan 7, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Yeah sure

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynpmx6

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Dont say anything is overpriced

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I just have 3 questions

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Should i sacrifice sata ssd for a rtx or keep this

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And is this a good build

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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RTX2060 isn't worth it for ray tracing

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so no

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But

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I would swap out the Corsair for an NVME Sabrent Rocket 1 TB, it's another $10

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and get a 500 GB SSD

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Im on a budget

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

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soooooooooo................

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

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This is my max

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Its fine

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I just need some fans

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This was my max for everything except cooling

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Also should i get a cooler

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Cpu

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I never said you had to go more expensive. I was gonna do a swaperoo but k

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:40 AM

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I just wanan kno

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:40 AM

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its fin

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Ok

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But i need fans

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Does cooler master have good fans

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Specifically these https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gb66Mp/cooler-master-mf120r-argb-3in1-59-cfm-120mm-fans-r4-120r-203c-r1

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?

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 2:54 AM

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I found a 75 USD computer

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https://denver.craigslist.org/sop/d/littleton-asrock-h77m-gaming/7046639521.html

craigslist

ASRock H77m Gaming motherboard, intel i3 -2120, Crucial 4gb DDR 3 Ram

ASRock H77m micro ATX Gaming mother board features include USB 3.0; 4 PCI slots, 2 Ram slots and more. Here is is a link to more info http://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/h77m/ Intel i3-2120 processor and...

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:55 AM

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That's literally no newer or better than what you have. 2 cores/cores

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 2:56 AM

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wait me or infinity2437

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Oh ffs

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I had you confused with someone else

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@mossy citrus Those fans are spendy....can get a 5 pack on Amazon for like, $25-30

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Hold up

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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yeah I know its a bit random I just thought it was funny

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:58 AM

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@mossy citrus i got those fans for my pc im building today waiting gor gpu and case to come today so yeah 🙂

muted patio Jan 7, 2020, 2:58 AM

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It's not funny, dood's been coming in here for like 7 days straight asking if they should buy something like that to replace their Pentium G620 lol

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:58 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dsZzK8/pc-cooler-moonlight-series-5-in-1-kit-upgrade-54-cfm-120-mm-fans-pc-5m120

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Is this gud?

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 2:59 AM

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those are some expensive fans.

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Its 5 in 1

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 2:59 AM

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yeah, thats roughly 13.1 USD per fan

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I mean its not awfull but I like things lower then 10

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 3:00 AM

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more than 4 fans do not provide extra cooling

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 3:01 AM

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yeah there are actually a lot of tests by gamers nexus on youtube, as for what are the best configs for cumputer fans and which cases need more fans

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 3:01 AM

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3-4 fan max and good cpu fan cooler all u need

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 3:02 AM

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in some cases putting fans in certan locations can impeded cooling

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 3:02 AM

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yep

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ima have 2 fans at front 1 rear and 1 top should be a ok

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Ok

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 3:03 AM

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I mean they look nice

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but for most cases I doubt you need that many

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 3:04 AM

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3 fan min u need 2 front 1 rear

sacred obsidian Jan 7, 2020, 3:05 AM

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wait so you're saying this pc isnt ultra cooled?

📎 471f7969_pcfancase.jpeg

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i actually did not know that more than 3 is no more cooling why is that

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 3:05 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LjfhP6/inwin-sirius-loop-asl120-50-cfm-120mm-fan-asl120fan-1pk

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Gud fan?

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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@sacred obsidian thats abit extreme

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also dust is gonna kill that system

sacred obsidian Jan 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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its a joke i found it online the other day lol

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my pc uses filters galore

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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protection first 😉

sacred obsidian Jan 7, 2020, 3:09 AM

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before that i just did like mega positive airflow. most cases were 3 in 1 out. i guess this one is too though 🤔 but this one got them filters

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but i havent had a dust problem since i had the og hp that started this pc lol

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I need a rgb hub for this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LjfhP6/inwin-sirius-loop-asl120-50-cfm-120mm-fan-asl120fan-1pk

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 3:22 AM

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You might need to buy the version in bulk for the hub

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 3:26 AM

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O

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Ok

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Ok thc

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Thx

hardy fractal Jan 7, 2020, 4:07 AM

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My computer keeps turning on when sleeping

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DeadChat

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 4:16 AM

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cause of background programs running

cosmic ridge Jan 7, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@hardy fractal I had that exact same problem. Win+R > devmgmt.msc > Run > Network Adapters EVERY SINGLE ONE, open Properties, go to the Power Management tab, and deselect "Allow this device to wake the computer from sleep." Should fix.

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You should also check your windows update management settings and see if that also might be a problem

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 6:17 AM

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@celest horizon for any file that requires downloading it is not a good idea to take a chance

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I have seen in the past virus and malware transfer that way

celest horizon Jan 7, 2020, 6:20 AM

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While I'm not advocating to allow any kind of file uploads, if you suffer a malware infection from a .txt file, that's a user error.

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e.g. someone could just upload "%0 | %0" in a .bat file and you'd be safe to download it and open in a text editor, while running the file .. oof. Points if you get the reference to my handle

latent bronze Jan 7, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Still not worth the risks

celest horizon Jan 7, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I agree, you should probably refrain from any discord mystery file downloads.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 7:07 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zYbRFG

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QrTZ27

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Which build do you think I should go with or does anyone have a better build for around 700

warm orbit Jan 7, 2020, 7:39 AM

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The one with an SSD. I can never go back to regular HDD

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You can never send me back

clever shadow Jan 7, 2020, 8:31 AM

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what would be a good SSD to get for a comp i want to run ark survival on?

rapid forum Jan 7, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Would I still need to install mother board mounts onto this? There are those raised points in every screw point. (Sorry for trivial question, building my first pc)

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cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 9:50 AM

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CS900 is a pretty sucky SSD

rapid forum Jan 7, 2020, 9:50 AM

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10/10 picture quality

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📎 JPEG_20200107_205030.jpg

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There we go

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Yea those raised standoffs are what you screw the board into

rapid forum Jan 7, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Aight. So no need for screw standoffs?

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 9:52 AM

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🤔 that second picture looks like it has a screw standoff

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If that is what that is, yes use those

rapid forum Jan 7, 2020, 9:53 AM

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No it's apart of the case

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Well if they are all that height, go for it

rapid forum Jan 7, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Aight. Thanks

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 9:54 AM

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@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GddJk6

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 9:55 AM

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^ technically the AM cooler could be cut to save cost but get it if you can.

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 12:53 PM

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hey bet sombody remembers me

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and I also bet there largly annoyed with me

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but does anybody know if a 970 might be a ok card for cad?

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it does happen to be going for 75 USD

polar holly Jan 7, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I was one helping you it will be useful but not the best. But it won’t make more sense than getting a large amount of quad channel fast ram and a solid psu

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I have a solid psu, and I have rather cheap quad channel ram. I found G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB ddr4 3200 speed for 95 USD total.

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the power supply is in the tear A catogory,

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so its ok I suppose according to ltt. it also got a recomndation by gamers nexus.

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thats really nice ram for cheaper then 32 gbs 2x16,

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its quad, and my psu is good this time.

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my total system cost withoguht a gpu is 712.6

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which means that I have a 148 USD gpu budget.

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which is not great but for solid works I could just get a good quadro, and my ram is covered.

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:12 PM

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@fossil hedge what Quadro are you looking at getting?

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Cause you're not gonna get a "good" one for $148

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You're gonna get an ancient one

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You over spent on the rest of the system compared to the GPU, general rule of thumb is that the GPU should be about 1/2 the cost in a somewhat balanced system. If you are using an older Quadro model you won't get the performance to match the rest of your system.

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 1:25 PM

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its a wx 3100

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for 120

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its a pretty well rounded card. beat out quite a few newer high end video cards for cad things.

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I also found a gtx titan for 140, 150 with shipping.

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(AMD Radeon Pro WX 3100)

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I mean its not to top most high end one out there but its not badly priced.

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:31 PM

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the launch price of that card was 199

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it was released in june of 2017 (edit: spelling)

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:32 PM

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How

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To fix

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When

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Pc just dies

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Randomly

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:33 PM

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lack of details makes us unable to even start answering that.

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:35 PM

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This is the pc that keeps dieing

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eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:35 PM

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It's still an "entry level" CAD card, if it's for personal/light progressional use it should be fine, but for heavier progressional use I'd try to step it up a to a mid range cad card

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Depends on what you are gonna use it for

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:36 PM

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solidworks is his usecase

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:36 PM

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He just said

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When hes using it

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Its just shuts down randomly

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He cant even play on it properly

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:37 PM

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its a 1920x build that is put together with a very low budget for the parts that make it stable

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 1:37 PM

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well. to be fair I found good ram and a good psu

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@eager chasm if you are curious enough, go back about 20 hours or so in this chat

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Ah

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:37 PM

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So

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Is their a way to fix this problem

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@jaunty karma have you attempted to boot the system? I can telepathically tell you what's wrong with it by looking at a picture and there is nothing obvious.

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:39 PM

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@jaunty karma random shutting off sounds like it's something doing a safety shut off cause of exceeding thermal limits. When was the paste last changed/applied? 🤔

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But really not enough information is given

fossil hedge Jan 7, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I mean saying I thought something similar is useless but you could attempt to re-seet the cooler otherwise.

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@eager chasm that board is from 2008 or so

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asus P5Q SE

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and no, i did not mistype the year

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Dumb paste could have been changed since then, but unlikely

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Sorry my friend is just asking whats wrong with it

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Cause he bought it 2nd hand

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And he said it was pretty cheap

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:42 PM

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considering it is running with original colour sata cables and with 3 dimm sticks

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:42 PM

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That word bothered me

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So hes just sending pictures

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:43 PM

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A good paste change might help, if not then I'm out of idea

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:43 PM

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At friday

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He will give it to me

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I mean not give

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Find a way to fix it

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 1:43 PM

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best of luck with that @jaunty karma

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:43 PM

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He doesnt want to pay money

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Which is a lose for me

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But a friend is a friend

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Cause

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Tell your friend a cheap paste is like $5

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:44 PM

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He thinks im the techy guy

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Im fancy with computers

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I only got into that summer of 2019

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Or the start of 2019

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the paste your talking about right its thermal paste

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Yes

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Hmm

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Any thoughts

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:45 PM

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If the paste is from 2008 and has never been changed it might not be transferring heat any more

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Cheapest on the market

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Anything is better than 12 year old paste

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Around 3 dollers

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Dollars

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Don't forget to repaste both the CPU and GPU

shut rampart Jan 7, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Just got this for $30 bucks
https://amzn.to/35mXpWx

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Nice, I got something similar

shut rampart Jan 7, 2020, 1:53 PM

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What is it?

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I got a luxcoms deskpad

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It's only got pre-defined RGB profiles though

shut rampart Jan 7, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Is my better xD

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For $10 I can change it

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I think

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Decent enough

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I'd say the razor one is probably better

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:55 PM

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What

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Are you guys talking about?

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I got mine for free

shut rampart Jan 7, 2020, 1:55 PM

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The link

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:55 PM

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The giant mouse pads

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Mine is paper

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And tape

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Beat that

shut rampart Jan 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Oof

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I used a flat chess board for years NYEHE

jaunty karma Jan 7, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I used magazines

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I use the table itself

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Yare Yare Daze

shut rampart Jan 7, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Oof

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Guys i need a hand on choosing a CPU cooler. Currently got my stock cooler for my intel core i7-8700. My case is an inwin 101 and my budget is around £100. What does anyone reccomend? I dont mind liquid coolers and or fans but Rgb would be nice.

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:16 PM

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For air, Noctua NH-U14S. Its very hard to beat

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Aethetics wise its pretty damn ugly isn't it?

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*Aesthetics

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:17 PM

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For AIOs theres not really many, corsair RGB AIOs are over £100. Like 115+. And fans are often just better than AIOs

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There's aesthetics or performance. If you're on a budget, you can't have both.

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:18 PM

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fair point

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Personally Im a big fan of the looks of beige noctuas.

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:18 PM

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A lot of people do recommend them im just not a fan of the brown XD

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:19 PM

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If you can go above £100 then around 115 you can get like a corsair h100i RGB AIO. Ofc it wont be quite as good as a great fan cooler like a noctua but.

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 2:19 PM

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just get the black versions.

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of the noctua coolers

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Didn't even know they were a thing

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:20 PM

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There's a U12S in black, not U14s though.

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:21 PM

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oh yeah found it

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Id personally prefer the 14 when its literally a couple pounds of difference but, I guess if you wanted to sacrifice some performance for looks while still being good enough a U12s would do.

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Oh I just realised I wasn't finding the NH-D15 in black because it's out of stock everywhere in the UK, but its a good deal for when its back: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07Y87YHRH?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I just finished building my first pc and my fans are on full and very loud how I fix

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:24 PM

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You asked this before, Zack told you that your fans are non adjustable and run at 100% all the time.

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:24 PM

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oh yeah i think i may choose the NH-D15 seems like a good choice

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:25 PM

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so no way to make them quiet?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Its less than two weeks until they are back in stock and its amazon fulfilled so wont take long to get to you.

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Cheers for the help btw

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Plus I find amazon's back in stock dates are always overestimates, I got my 4tb WD Blue on the 30th of december, it was only supposed to come back in stock yesterday

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Hmm

sinful torrent Jan 7, 2020, 2:26 PM

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oh fair enough. Well i'm going to order it! thanks again. Just been fed up of my Intel stock cooler

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Says I can change fan speed by lowering voltage

still roostBOT Jan 7, 2020, 2:27 PM

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tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 2:27 PM

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https://forum.level1techs.com/t/is-it-possible-to-change-3-pin-fan-speed-through-voltage/23249/5

Level1Techs Forums

Is it Possible to change 3-pin fan speed through voltage?

http://ecmweb.com/design/highs-and-lows-motor-voltage Im an electrician and I shit you not. Dont mess with voltage on that motor if you want to use it for any length of time. A high end fan might be able to handle different set voltages like the noise reducer but then again i...

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 2:29 PM

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If your fan is one speed 3 pin, it's probably crap enough that you want it to only run at full speed anyway

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I can change fan speed by lowering voltage

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 2:30 PM

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That's usually for 4 pin fans

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... my fans aren't even MB controlled at all any more, I have to punch the speed i want on a remote

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Oh_No

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But they sure do look pretty

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But Velcro exists so my remote is strapped to my case lol

muted dawn Jan 7, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Can I use a speed controller to change 3pin fan soeed?

eager chasm Jan 7, 2020, 2:59 PM

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no

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only 4 pin fans or controllers proprietary to specific fans

clever shadow Jan 7, 2020, 3:06 PM

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i have a question about a motherboard which one is better out of the two this onehttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FKTZC4M/ref=psdc_1048424_t3_B07WF6ZQST

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or this one https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Crossfire-Motherboard-B450-Tomahawk/dp/B07WF6ZQST/ref=sr_1_2?tag=awesomenetw07-20&keywords=MSI%2BB450%2BTomahawk%3A&qid=1577987995&sr=8-2&th=1

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@eager chasm not quite true

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something like the fanmate 1 from zalman does the trick

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http://www.zalman.com/contents/products/view.html?no=505

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 3:47 PM

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@muted dawn @tight bluff controlling speed through a 3 pin was through voltage. At light loads it isn't super hard on the motor for a voltage change. 4 pin was introduced for efficiency and not needing to use resistance on the voltage line to simply lower voltage for the fans, causing heat and waste of energy.

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@eager chasm both 3 and 4 pin can change speeds. 3 pin is done through voltage and 4 pin is through PWM

proud belfry Jan 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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so I'm looking to build a pc and I'm looking to spend around 1000 CAD the most fast running games i have now would be sea of thieves and csgo so what would u all recommend for me??

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Thoughts on these parts?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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The number one thing youll hear about 20xx coolers: Never Ventus.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:21 PM

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That bad?

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I went with it after reading the reviews from customers on the marketplace

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Haven't read or watched any other reviews

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Do you advise holding off until next gen Nvidia GPUs?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Nah they probably wont be around for a while, and they have no reason to give a big improvement over the current gen.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:23 PM

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is this a good ssd https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-ace-a55-1tb/p/N82E16820301382?Item=N82E16820301382

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Can you get the EVGA XC Ultra gaming 2070S for the same price as that?

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@little osprey #storage-devices If nobody answers then nobody knows

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:24 PM

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It's over budget and it's 3 slot
Won't fit in that case

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I said XC, not FTW3

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Screenshot (7 Jan 2020 20:25:01)

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tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Oh not ultra, my bad

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Normal XC

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https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-08g-p4-3172-kr/p/N82E16814487454

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:26 PM

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whats a good ssd

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1tb

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It's like 5 dollars cheaper than the ultra
Haha

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I'll check reviews and find a better 2070s

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Thanks

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@little osprey Sabrent Rocket m.2

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i want sata no m.2

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Like the go-to m.2 right now is the sabrent rocket.

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Why do you want a 1tb SSD on a machine that doesn't have m.2 on the mobo?

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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it does have a m.2 on it

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i just dont want to put one on it

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i just want a sata ssd

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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They are about the same price as m.2s, with about 4x the speed. 20% more expensive for a reasonable one at best.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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i just want a 1tb sata ssd

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just tell me which one

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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WD Green's 2.5" SSD if you care about budget.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:30 PM

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is it fast

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:30 PM

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About as fast as SSDs go

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The Samsung 860 QVO 1tb also seems to be quite cheap at the moment.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:31 PM

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the one i picked out is $80

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I dont see anything trustable below 95.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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this is my board where would the m.2 go https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157884?Item=N82E16813157884

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i never had a m.2 before

warped moat Jan 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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The crucial mx500 is pretty good

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:33 PM

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im using a amd 3 socket

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:33 PM

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The Mx yes, not the bx.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:33 PM

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does it just slide right in

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Yeah

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It also has another m.2 slot lower on the board.

warped moat Jan 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Then you screw one screw in

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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You push it in at a 45 degree angle, then lower it and screw it into the standoff

warped moat Jan 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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To hold it down

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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where

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIqZjo34rw

YouTube

Compulsion84

How To Install an M.2 SSD: Installation Tutorial with Samsung 960 ...

M.2 solid state drives (SSD) are replacing SATA Gen 3 drives with their insane performance. Learn how to install an M2 drive with this how to / tutorial video!

To install an M.2 Drive do the following. Turn off your PC. Unscrew the small phillips head screw from the prope...

▶ Play video

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Just watch that. Literally two minutes.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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thats cool

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thanks

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will the m2 fit underneath my video card

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Yeah, but you also have another slot which you probably want to use

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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ok i will do that

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which one should i use thats a 1tb

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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That bottom slot probably your best bet

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little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:37 PM

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theo therone is m.2 wifi

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the other one is m.2 wifi

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hold on

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Theres 3 on that board.

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The two I put arrows to are the ones that you can use for an m.2 drive

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The middle is for an m.2 wifi card

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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i saw it now

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_pm?ac_md=2-1-QmV0d2VlbiAkMTAwIGFuZCAkMTUw-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=sabrent+rocket&keywords=sabrent+rocket&pd_rd_i=B07LGF54XR&pd_rd_r=b9eabacc-925f-488c-b2a6-34b9557595eb&pd_rd_w=8ddZb&pd_rd_wg=WMK4j&pf_rd_p=709d2064-e546-4799-9e66-b352ea89951f&pf_rd_r=HVJY1SB18WJ7VHH3HWR7&psc=1&qid=1578422242

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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do you just use a screw driver

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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This might not be the cheapest place to buy it in the US, but this is generally the most reliable now

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Yes, as I said, that video explains the ENTIRE process, which is 30 seconds.

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Youll be looking at read and write speeds around the 2000 mb/s mark, as opposed to 500mb/s with a normal sata SSD

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:42 PM

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mine doesnt show screws where the m.2 is

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Your standoff might have come seperately from your board and be in the mobo box.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:42 PM

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in english

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Your standoff might have come seperately from your board and be in the mobo box.

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:43 PM

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like i know what that means

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:43 PM

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What are you struggling with?

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 6:44 PM

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how to keep the m.2 down

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because it doesnt look like a screw

tranquil dust Jan 7, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Newegg2 Newegg2

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Do you physically have the motherboard or just looking at pictures of it?

blissful garden Jan 7, 2020, 6:52 PM

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No case=best airflow

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Also wdym it doesn’t look like a screw?

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The SSD usually comes with a mounting screw and the motherboard sometimes has one pre installed

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Just unscrew it and push the SSD down, then screw it in

stoic island Jan 7, 2020, 7:24 PM

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sadly mine didnt come with a mounting screw

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 7:28 PM

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From what I can tell, M.2s don't usually come with screws. Mobos should all have standoffs though

blissful crescent Jan 7, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Would buying my friends i5 6600k, r9 390 with plans to buy a 1060 6gb, and pairing it with 16gb 3200mhz ram be a good idea?

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He's selljng me the processor, gpu, and mobo all for $200

stoic island Jan 7, 2020, 7:39 PM

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sounds good I think

graceful falcon Jan 7, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Seems like it. I'm selling a buddy my old rig (i5-4670K, Asus Z87-A, GTX770 2GB, and 120GB 2.5" SSD in an NZXT Phantom 410) with a 24" 1080p 60hz for the same amount, and all the hardware you're getting is notably better

mossy citrus Jan 7, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Newegg2 Newegg1

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NYEHE

blissful crescent Jan 7, 2020, 8:24 PM

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are rosewill fans decent?

old charm Jan 7, 2020, 8:31 PM

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are there consequences to changing my bootup order in my bios from SSD to HDD?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Nope, aside from you need an operating system installed on your HDD for it to work, and also it'd load much slower.

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If there isnt one youll get a small bit of delay, and itll just go onto the next drive which will be your SSD and boot from that

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 8:36 PM

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@little osprey a55 isnt a good SSD

tranquil dust Jan 7, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Uh oh

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Newegg2 Newegg2

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Hello everyone. Im new here. Mostly because i can't figure out how to install the recent sabrent rocket 1tb nvme pcie ssd that i just got

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Hopefully this is the right chat to ask for help

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:42 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIqZjo34rw

YouTube

Compulsion84

How To Install an M.2 SSD: Installation Tutorial with Samsung 960 ...

M.2 solid state drives (SSD) are replacing SATA Gen 3 drives with their insane performance. Learn how to install an M2 drive with this how to / tutorial video!

To install an M.2 Drive do the following. Turn off your PC. Unscrew the small phillips head screw from the prope...

▶ Play video

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I tried searching and youtubing but nothing comes up as the same issue i have i believe

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:42 PM

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What is your issue specifically that prevents you from doing what that guide suggests?

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I can install it

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I cant access it

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I think that's the simplest form

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:43 PM

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On your PC, go to disk management

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I cant get on my pc with it installed

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Go into your bios and set your boot device to be the one that has your OS installed.

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Windows is on a wdc sata ssd and ny computer wont detect it while the sabrent is installed

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Plug your sata SSD into a different sata port.

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You might have to try a couple.

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M.2 drives disable 1-2 sata ports. Possibly always 2, I haven't checked to see if some do more or less than others.

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Alright

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Thats new information to me

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Now it's booting up

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 8:47 PM

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An M2 slot will almost always disable a slot. Whether it is a SATA or NVMe M2 will depend on which slots are disbled

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:47 PM

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So i can try formatting now

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Yeah you should be pretty much good to go.

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:48 PM

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And if i wanted to move windows onto the sabrent do i just move the files and then change the boot option to it?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:48 PM

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You can't do that whilst its running.

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Someone suggested this for doing it whilst its running: https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free

Macrium Software - the creators of Macrium Reflect backup, imaging and cloning software.

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I've yet to try it myself

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:48 PM

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not for while it is running.

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you boot into reflect and clone the drive

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:48 PM

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foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:49 PM

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they have a guide on their site for it

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Just follow their site I suppose

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Would it be easier and more reliable/known outcome to just uninstall everything. Boot from sabrent with dc'd sata ssd. And install windows there from the usb with windows ct?

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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depending on your comfort levels. A fresh install is recommended.

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I dont have files im really keeping. And i can just reinstall everything

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I mean Id always recommend a fresh windows install but it can also be inconvenient for some people so. Entirely up to you whether you want easy now or more convenient

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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But yes after formatting the sabrent first?

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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you do however NOT need to uninstall anything, just unplug the sata

strange garden Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Ok looking for any ideas for cooling in this HP Omen Obelisk I bought with an i7-8700 and an RTX 2080. Was looking into Arctic accelero for the GPU but I don’t know if I’ll quite have the clearance under the card due to the power connector to the motherboard. Any tips or advice would be much appreciated

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foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:51 PM

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the format happens in the install

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Anyone one and could tell me which of these 3 builds I should go with and if they have any suggestions

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Do i have to format the sabrent before trying to install on it?

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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technically it happens in the install process (of the OS)

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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When you do a windows install youll be able to format it in the installer

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Let me try that then

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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If its not been formatted before itll show up ass unallocated in the installer

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@sharp juniper remember to unplug your sata drive

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I unplugged it from the motherboard

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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that is plenty :)

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:54 PM

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But bios isn't detecting the sabrent

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Probably because its just unallocated space.

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Boot from a windows install USB and itll recognise it

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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A windows install usb means i need to install windows on the usb right?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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No

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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So im installing twice in this scenario?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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You put the installer on the USB via the free tool microsoft gives you

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I have the usb with the creation tool plugged in

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Then you boot from the USB so it boots into the installer on it

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Then boot from that

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Which option would that be?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:57 PM

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If it doesnt work, then you probably downloaded the tool and put it onto the USB

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When you're supposed to download the tool to your PC, run it and itll turn your USB into an installation usb

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:58 PM

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tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Doesnt your post screen have a "Press X to choose boot option" rather than having to go into the bios

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:58 PM

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the Sandisk option

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:58 PM

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It just turned on straight to this

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I didnt press anything after power with the sata ssd removed

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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just select the sandisk option

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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That's already first

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Done working out. Lets see

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You did definitely run the creation tool when you downloaded it right, not just stuck it on the USB?

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Not sure on that

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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What you download isnt the installer

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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But i can do that quickly on another usb

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?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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You run it, and itll create the installer onto the USB drive

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Run it when your PC is booted up into windows.

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I already installed windows onto the sata ssd through this usb

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So what is the difference or did i do it right the first time?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Then it's a bit confusing why it's not booting into the USB this time

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:02 PM

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UEFI boot enable

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wait a sec, you got it working on the sata?

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I have boot mode select. And it shows uefi

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Not uefi legacy

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Yes

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I can try again with a second usb though

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@strange garden Can get the GPU only kit for $128 USD
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32918824371.html

aliexpress.com

US $106.15 8% OFF|Bykski Water Cooling Kit CPU + GPU Water cooled ...

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foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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no, that should not be needed

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if it worked for the sata, it should work for the nvme

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what mainboard do you have?

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just brand name

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Msi b450 tomahawk

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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that is F11 iirc for the boot menu

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press f11 when it boots

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that should give you a "select what to boot from now" screen

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:06 PM

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foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:06 PM

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aye, just select the usb stick and press enter

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:07 PM

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So

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I press enter and click it

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It blinks black

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And returns to this screen

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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hm

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Setup goes to bios

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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aye, that is normal

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Wut?

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Idk what to do

little osprey Jan 7, 2020, 9:10 PM

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whats the best way to format a hard drive

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besides using a windows disc

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@sharp juniper turn of the machine, unplug usb, plug in the sata drive again. boot into windows

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Wait actually

pseudo agate Jan 7, 2020, 9:13 PM

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📎 IMG_20200107_1542252.jpg 📎 IMG_20200106_193801.jpg

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New toys

foggy hazel Jan 7, 2020, 9:15 PM

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@sharp juniper and i am sorry, but i am being called out on a job, so i am going to have to leave you with the other knowledgeable people here.

strange garden Jan 7, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@cursive wharf I’m concerned with space in my current case. I don’t think I have the room in there for an open loop, I’m pretty set on getting an AIO for the CPU and mounting it to that top bracket, my real concern is the gpu, I currently have to keep the fan pretty much maxed to run a load on it and keep it below 80c. The case is pretty small and I don’t have a lot of extra clearance below the current card

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Alright thanks for your help

strange garden Jan 7, 2020, 9:20 PM

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https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-1184-B1 Also considering this as an option but not sure of its compatibility with my card since it’s an HP

EVGA

EVGA HYBRID Kit for EVGA/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080/2070 XC/XC2/FE, 4...

The EVGA HYBRID cooler for the GeForce RTX 2080/2070 is an All-in-One water cooling solution that significantly lowers the GPU and VRAM operating temperature. Best of all? The water cooler is completely self-contained with the included 120mm radiator and fan. No filling, no c...

cursive wharf Jan 7, 2020, 9:21 PM

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@strange garden There is enough space for an open loop. Just need to be careful about which parts to pick

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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So i installed the creation tool onto the usb. But when trying to download windows onto the sabrent rocket 1tb nvme pcie it it isnt detected as a driver i can install on

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Did you try and run the program while booted up into windows, or did you try boot from the USB?

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Send a picture of what you see when on the drive selection

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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This is doing custom installation

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📎 JPEG_20200107_143533.jpg

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My options. I only have the sabrent and usb attached

📎 JPEG_20200107_143603.jpg

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Windows ct is the sandisk flashdrive

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I am willing to bet you ran the installater from the usb stick, rather than booted using the usb stick as the boot drive

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Even unallocated it should show up as an unallocated space and let you use it when you run the installer properly.

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Maybe

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This time i just turned on the computer

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I'll try fixing bios start up?

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Yeah set it so you boot from usb stick and the installer should be the first thing that comes up

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 10:38 PM

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It already said it booted from the usb key sandisk

tight bluff Jan 7, 2020, 10:39 PM

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What mobo are you using?

sharp juniper Jan 7, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Selected boot device has usb key sandisk partition 1

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Brought me to same screen

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B450 tomahawk

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Msi

woven horizon Jan 7, 2020, 11:07 PM

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@worthy cypress I like how compact your desk is where did you get it?

worthy cypress Jan 7, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Honestly dont know

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Its been with my family since i can remember

woven horizon Jan 7, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I have about 40 inches of space and that looks about the same size.

worthy cypress Jan 7, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Its alot bigger of a desk just cut it off

woven horizon Jan 7, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Looks like I'm going to buy a big desk and cut it in half

worthy cypress Jan 7, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Big brain

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Good day everyone. I planed to build my first pc. Im so exited and worried. I create a build.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rVGdFG

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Nice build, open to suggestions/input? I have a very similar config myself

polar holly Jan 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Dont by oem windows you can buy keys for cheaper.

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Fact
HNDHT-PC76K-J326T-2WW4P-3YGVD

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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That's a lot of money spent on AIOs

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Can spend half the amount that was on cooling for a full custom loop

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Thank you. I will. I have some questions. My ram choose is 14 cas 3600 2x8. I will buy 1 more same. But corsair vengange use 1.45w. Normal cpu give 1.25. Will it be problem?

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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RAM is max rated for 1.5v iirc

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I living florida. So summer is really hot. Thats why i need good cooling system. What do you reccomend about cooling?

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Also 970 Evo is pretty sucky. Just get a 2tb Sabrent Rocket for same/close to same price

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Bykski or Barrow. Good quality for budget brands. Problem being they are Chinese brands. Leaving you to higher shipping and more annoying buying places with slightly worse buyer protections (ALiexpress for example)

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Are you generally looking to have a system that work out of the box, minimal troubleshooting/tweaking? Or are you interesting in overclocking/ playing with settings for funs sake

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Haha I just ordered a barrow pump top today

polar holly Jan 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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The drive also depends on if he needs the write endurance

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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So very few people need to worry about total lifetime write endurance

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Actually i have atx full tower case. Thats why there is no case. I try to create good enough pc to keep is maybe 4-5 years for all games.

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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That is the kit im looking at

rapid forum Jan 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Anyone familiar with asrock beep error codes?

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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@polar holly If that is the case then Samsung Pro. Other then that other competitors make Evo/Evo Plus make little difference

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:29 AM

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@cursive wharf look nice. I will check. Aliexpress delivers took a lifetime. If it gonna take less than 1 months i can take this cooling system.

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Uxcell is a decent us based amazon seller where you can pick up some g1/4 plumbing parts and build "that kind" of loop.

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:30 AM

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There are a few other kits with different shipping from different sellers. Search up "Bykski kit" or "Barrow kit" on Ali

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Apparently the one I linked is expected 16 days max shipping to Canada

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which I assume is usually correct?

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Other question is about power supplying. I choosed 80+titanium for less heating. Is it important that much?

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:32 AM

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actually do you plan to OC?

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9900k will consume like 250w with OC, 375w GPU, 70w system
695w

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Not right now. Probably this set up can be enough for many games. My main focus is cyberpunk. Maybe i gonna need oc in the future.

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:34 AM

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That gpu's power limit is 373, you definitely want headroom though. Personally, I'd say go for an ax1000 , a 1200plat/ti EVGA or corsair equivalent.

waxen apex Jan 8, 2020, 1:35 AM

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@celest horizon evga or corsair 1000 plat. Got it.

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:36 AM

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My personal opinion is that builds with $500 cpus, $1300 gpu's pair well with a $200-$500 psu that has a 12 year warranty and will likely actually last that long - but others advocate to go a bit cheaper

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Just get this. Best of the best PSUs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qMh9TW/antec-power-supply-hcp1000

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@celest horizon When it's a 3k+ PC I'd advocate a fair bit to the PSU as well

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I'm a hug fan of ebay 1600 T2's, I check the serial number against newly bought units shared by others to gauge mfg date and verify the seller's claimed info.

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 2:31 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CYjs8M

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rate

polar holly Jan 8, 2020, 2:33 AM

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3/10

lime forge Jan 8, 2020, 2:34 AM

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you can do a lot better for that $600 budget

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDY8HB

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along with this

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-RX-570-8GB-Nitro-Graphics-Card/153651412439?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40719%26meid%3Da8047321abee4504891f03f6c578ed15%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D13%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D153651412439%26itm%3D153651412439%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A3d11a60f-31c0-11ea-94f1-74dbd1800a1e|parentrq%3A8306635116f0ad4b5defa3d4ffb61164|iid%3A1

eBay

Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8GB Nitro+ Graphics Card

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8GB Nitro+ Graphics Card at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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ok well

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i said a lot better lol

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but i was wrong

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its about on par, a bit better

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the thing is, if you have a micro center near you, you can find a bundle for a motherboard and cpu which will save a bit

severe chasm Jan 8, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Hey guys, im planning on building a pc by the end of January, I currently have a Ryzen 3 1300X, an Asrock B450 Gaming K4 Motherboard with 8gb of Ram and a 1070ti.
I am planning on getting a bundle which includes a Ryzen 7 3700X, MSI Meg Ace X570 and 16gb of 3600Mhz Ram. However I will be keeping the 1070ti. I am not sure what to go with and whether or not I should look for cheaper items? I am planning on streaming and would like to be able to run OBS and any games in decent quality without too much of a frame drop. Any thoughts?

warm orbit Jan 8, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I'm nervous about having 16gb of RAM going into the future and I wonder if eyeballing 32 gig kits is something rational or am I freaking out over nothing? I just built this PC and I bought 16 instead of 32 because I wanted to save money.

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 4:38 AM

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16 gigs is perfectly fine

warm orbit Jan 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I'm going to keep losing my mind over my setup until Cyberpunk 2077 is out

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I'm using a 9700k with 2070 Super and I keep eyeballing new cards and watching processor news. I'm using a 1080p monitor and I think about Ampere. It's absolutely stupid.

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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@lime forge @blissful crescent You can still do better with $600
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Hbrcq

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Dont even need to go used

eager chasm Jan 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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@coarse coral help in general please

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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yikes

eager chasm Jan 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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@ripe osprey help in general please

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@warm nova help in general please

ripe osprey Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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we got it

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dont worry

eager chasm Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Thanks

ripe osprey Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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we are wokriung on it

eager chasm Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Sorry for the spam

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Oh_No my ping spam is a drop in the bucket

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Lol

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GBYhjp

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$600

violet jay Jan 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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best cpu to pair with 1660 ti?

eager chasm Jan 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Probably some form of Ryzen 5

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A Ryzen 5 pairs well with almost anything

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It's the Swiss army knife of CPUs

edgy leaf Jan 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I have an OC'd R5 1600 working with an RX 580. You can probably get even better results with even just a 2600

cursive wharf Jan 8, 2020, 7:30 AM

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@austere condor why RX580 when 1650S is same price and GD when CX is better?

jaunty karma Jan 8, 2020, 10:27 AM

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@cursive wharf

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Any case below 78 bucks?

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I mean psu

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Ur like the expert

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NYEHE

keen depot Jan 8, 2020, 11:18 AM

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@jaunty karma for gold https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tjbkcf/cougar-gx-s-750w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-gx-s750

jaunty karma Jan 8, 2020, 11:19 AM

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That psu isn’t available

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Oof

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 12:16 PM

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@celest horizon Grats on the rank

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 12:16 PM

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$1200 well spent I guess, hope theo enjoys that 2080 ti

coarse coral Jan 8, 2020, 12:17 PM

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what

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https://tenor.com/view/jashinchan-dropkick-evil-smile-smug-evilness-anime-gif-13119047

Tenor

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I kid, I kid.

coarse coral Jan 8, 2020, 12:18 PM

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oh

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DEMOTED.

celest horizon Jan 8, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Lol - ~~mac user~~ luddite role?

mossy citrus Jan 8, 2020, 12:21 PM

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1660 super and more storage or less storage and rtx 2060

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 12:21 PM

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A normal non super 2060? There's almost no reason to buy that

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What are your storage numbers looking at with either option? Im guessing you'll be in a position where a 1660S is a better value buy anyway.

mossy citrus Jan 8, 2020, 12:22 PM

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1.5 tb

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No tb

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Actually nvm

old charm Jan 8, 2020, 12:59 PM

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okay, so whenever i plug my flash drive into my pc to try to update my bios, it never recognizes the files on my flash drive

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@cursive wharf wdym

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 1:45 PM

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You might need to rename the file

old charm Jan 8, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I'm gonna try disabling fast start-up first

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then I'm gonna try updating my bios

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:18 PM

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@mortal void 0GB ddr3 memory

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Some intel APU?

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:20 PM

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DDR3 is correct

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Intel APU is also correct

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but it's not 0 Gigs lmao

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:32 PM

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wut looks like none

📎 unknown.png

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oh wait

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Ima guess 4gb ram

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I posted my specs in the build.pics

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originally it only had 4 gigs but I pulled RAM from the slightly worse tower I was using before I found my current one

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:43 PM

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ahhh

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I was kinda close

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:44 PM

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yes

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:45 PM

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no way I was guessing dat cpu tho

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:45 PM

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haha true

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but I also didn't wanna attempt to take off the Cooler and have everyone witness the disgustingness that's probably under there

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also lazy

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Is that an actual socketed CPU or is it one of those soldered onto the board?

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:48 PM

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you know, I have no idea

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:52 PM

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if the model is right, it is a socketed oem cpu (iirc)

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:52 PM

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dumb question. The hell does IIRC mean?

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 2:52 PM

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"If I recall correctly"

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:52 PM

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if i recall/remember correctly

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 2:52 PM

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alright

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cause I've always seen people use it

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but never bothered to figure it out

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:53 PM

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theres always new acromyms and stuffs

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:53 PM

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@stoic island a tell tale sign of it is the no-heatsink chipset you can see below the socket

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:54 PM

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oh interesting

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So that board would use a dif chipset?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:54 PM

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that automatically kicks you X generations back (is what i mean)

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Ah ok

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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also, notice the blue part of the IO at the back?

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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IDRK anything about older hardware

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the blue port in the IO?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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aye

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to the left

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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What would that be? USB?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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could easily be vga

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or serial

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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looked pretty rectangular on first look so yea lol

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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if you saw a big pink block, you would have a LPT there

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I was thinking PS/2 ports, it's kinda tall

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I was going to go for ps/2.

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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ps2 is at the top of the picture

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I thought PS/2 normally looked slimmer?

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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nah

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PS/2 is at the top

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Seems a bit low on the board tbf

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Mr1111 / it is slimmer, hence look at the top left.

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Then again, why are we thinking over an ancient PC.

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:57 PM

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you can see the housing for it

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:57 PM

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pretty dark up there

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that thing looks like it could be it

📎 unknown.png

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:58 PM

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it is

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 2:58 PM

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tall, thin

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the one port I know on older hardware

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bc ps/2 is still around

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 2:59 PM

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there is a good chance that is a double ps/2 port in that block

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unlike the "combo" ports a lot of boards have now

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 3:00 PM

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📎 IMG_20200108_090038.jpg

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:01 PM

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yea this is what IO on like my mobo looks like

📎 unknown.png

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 3:01 PM

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aye

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:01 PM

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that red thing kinda just replaced the double PS/2 thing

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 3:01 PM

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because we moved away from the mouse using ps/2

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I dont know why we still have it tho

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even though we moved onto like only htmi and dp for integrated

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I dont even know of any ps/2 keyboards

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 3:02 PM

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do... do you have Coax Ports on your MOBO...?

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:02 PM

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nah wifi

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Those are wifi aerials.

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Its the same reason sometimes "gamers" still play on CRTs. Like very tiny nuances like interrupt based KBM > USB KBM for example. It's not worth fighting over

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

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between the HDMI and USB ports?

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Yes

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

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ah

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Those two antenna spots are for wifi.

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I've never seen any ps/2 ports tho

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I mean perphials

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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that is only the 2nd time I've seen a MOBO with Wifi

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very rare for me to see

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I mean they havent been made in many years, unless some hipster company has started making some

mortal void Jan 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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fair enough

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Really?

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Mobo WiFI is a thing again

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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the port is RP-SMA if I remember

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Wifi mobos seem to be pretty common now. At least a lot of variants of things like x570s have them

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:05 PM

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because I had to get replacement antennas

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sadly

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Yeah, it's an X570 thing because it doesn't take lanes away from SATA like the B450, etc did

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I have wifi on my b450

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doesn't restrict SATA lanes in of itself, I think it might share some lanes with PCIE

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Right, which is part of the reason the second M.2 takes SATA ports

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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ah

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right

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I love the guy delivering my 2080S's route. I live on a road on one side of a hill. He went a 10 second walk from my house (I could see out the window) and then circled the hill in the opposite direction from me so Id be the last stop on it.

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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x570 has enough lanes that losing them isn't a thing any more

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I see

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Only becaue you're watching him......... 😉

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:07 PM

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tho I thought it was bc of lanes supported by CPU that was restricting it..?

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:07 PM

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The guy's a pratt, had a few DPD deliveries from him before.

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Once had him complain that a company that sent me a parcel before only specified my house number, not street address, but included post code. And post codes are specific to streets and all GPS use them to identify streets

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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at least he doesnt like steal your packages

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:09 PM

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He's seen me, he knows if he did he'd get his head kicked in

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Its a pretty decent courier company so I won't really complain.

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Tbf mail in the UK is generally okay. Hermes and Yodel are the only awful couriers

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But the royal mail, UPS (different than in the US), DPD and TNT are all pretty solid. Even Amazon's courier service is pretty good.

shadow flume Jan 8, 2020, 3:12 PM

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my mobo is an asrock extreme. it has wifi and bluetooth

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Whatever happened to sata express anyway?

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:17 PM

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The External SATA port?

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USB 3.0 happened

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 3:19 PM

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For me it started on the Z97 pro gamer mobo, but that also had USB 3.0 ports. Makes me pretty curious

honest furnace Jan 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I have an H710 which has front USB 3 and USB C, but only a single USB 3 header on my motherboard. Is there a way to split that header to be able to use all the front ports or is that not a good idea? Right now I have the USB 3 ports connected to the board and the USB C is just kind of ... there.

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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What motherboard?

honest furnace Jan 8, 2020, 3:27 PM

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TUF X570 plus wifi

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Mobo doesn't have a connector for that

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USB 3.1 gen 2 right?

honest furnace Jan 8, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Yea I know but I've seen there are ways to convert your usb 3 to a usb c header, even though you lose some of the functionality. i was just curious what the opinions on that are

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Yea the front C header is 3.1 gen 2

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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That mobo has a USB-C port in the back

honest furnace Jan 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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was just curious if i could split the gen 1 header then use an adapter to usb c to be able to at least use the connection

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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No idea on that one

honest furnace Jan 8, 2020, 3:36 PM

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i know it does but i don't like having dead connections lol

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unfortunately i bought the board then upgraded the case not knowing about the front usb thing

muted patio Jan 8, 2020, 3:37 PM

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USB-C allows for higher voltage and more amperage to charge things. Any conversion would be kind of moot and limited to USB 3.1 speeds and charging

honest furnace Jan 8, 2020, 3:38 PM

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fair, but it would at least be usable at that point

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 4:39 PM

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So I want to test my 2080S before the rest of the system comes for me to put it in, by putting it in my current system. The problem is, its a 450W PSU. And Ive ran the numbers through PCPP, and it estimates with my 2080S in, itll be just under 450W

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I suppose the worst that can happen would be a random shutdown if it peaks.

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Or is it not worth the risk of overdrawing from the PSU?

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 4:56 PM

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idk how bad it is but i wouldnt over draw. it might cause something else to corrupt

sour violet Jan 8, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Buy a better psu 594219305600679936

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Can I buy you some reading classes?

sour violet Jan 8, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Please, lol. I wouldnt test it on low end.. it would just be wrong.

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Putting a 2080s into a gigabyte ga lmt. =)

lime forge Jan 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@broken anchor keep self promo in #links-and-selfpromotion please

broken anchor Jan 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Oh nice thx

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 7:42 PM

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can someone give me advice to fix up this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CYjs8M

coarse coral Jan 8, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Are you stuck with that cpu/Mobo @blissful crescent

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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i've played on cpu/gpu/mobo and they work really nicely
like the exact one im buying

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buying it from a good frie d

coarse coral Jan 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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o

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 7:48 PM

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but if there is better, i'll buy it

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trying not to exceed 800

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 7:55 PM

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for under 800 you can build a better pc than that

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actually for 600 thats not bad at all imo

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 7:59 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bNCvZf

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for $800

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@blissful crescent

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 8:00 PM

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impressive
8 cents short lmaoo

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that looks really good

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do you think itd be worth it to buy the parts and flip the pc, and buy this for myself?

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:01 PM

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that looks much better but 550w doesnt give much expandability later on tho right

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Hey peeps can I have some advice on my build

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:01 PM

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flipping pcs isnt super easy

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:01 PM

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550W is more thn enough for any modern system

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I have it in front of me it's on installation

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I need help installimg a part

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:02 PM

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unless you're going dual GPU, or extreme edition CPU's, you rarely ever need more than 550W

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Is this the right place

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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@blissful crescent i like the case too, i built in it just a little while ago

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blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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thas t is a nice looking case

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that your build?

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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obviously doesnt come with the red LED fans, but it has 3 stock fans in it

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i built it a while ago yeah, but its not my personal system, one built to flip

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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how big is it? i have an old corsair tower that's massive and am trying to keep it smaller than that

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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standard midtower

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not too big

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but not, tiny

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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hmm i havent dealt with psus in a few years now but what about in a few years when prices drop and a 2080 ti is affordable, id assume thatd max out his psu wouldnt it?

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not saying thats what he should do but 550 would struggle on a 2080 no?

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@knotty quiver what are you trying to install

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when i build i always try to look for upgradability so i can minimize the parts im buying later lol

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I'm trying to install the cpu cooler and the screws won't line up correctly

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 8:06 PM

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do you think i could build a system with the i5 6600k and the r9 390 to flip?

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:06 PM

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what cpu and what cooler?

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you need to barely catch them one at a time before tightening them down

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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justifying buying a higher wattage PSU today, by either going over budget, or losing actual performance to afford a higher wattage PSU "just in case" he wants to buy a 2080ti? no...

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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The stock cooler for the Ryzen 5 3600x

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Like the screws are just barely off so I can't screw two of them in

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:07 PM

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well no i dont mean going over budget but for that price point you could get a 650 watt cant you

austere condor Jan 8, 2020, 8:08 PM

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not one i would recommend, or within budget because of PSU's doubling/tripling in price over the past year due to chinese tariffs

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:09 PM

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oof. last time i went looking at em was about a year in a half ago we got a 750 evga gold for 80 lol

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:09 PM

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When two line up the other 2 wont

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:10 PM

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is it orientated right

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Yeah

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Do you want a picture of the situation

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:10 PM

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yes pls

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I don't know if you can see the exact problem

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But the first pic they both fit

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But the second one they don't

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:11 PM

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yeah

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ok so the first 2 are already screwed in right

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:12 PM

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No

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I just have them placed there

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I know you are supposed to do the diagonal thing

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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can you pivot the screws a little?

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Nope. They are pretty firm

sacred obsidian Jan 8, 2020, 8:14 PM

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hmmm iunno they should just fit like that. thats pretty weird.

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Maybe my backplate is just messed up

sour violet Jan 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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What mobo is that?

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Guessing b450

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Rotating it 90 degrees doesnt work?

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Is there any way that the ECS A780LM-M2 - 1.0 mobo and any athlon ii can form a decent setup?

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:35 PM

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It's a b450 f gaming from asus

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And rotating 90 degrees makes it far worse

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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@knotty quiver have you tried holding the board with the backplate resting on your hand?

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I'll try that

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 8:37 PM

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on some boards, when you unscrew the original retention mechanism, the backplate slides out a bit, which sounds like that you are a encountering

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because the backplate should not touch the surface that the mainboard is resting on

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also @knotty quiver only screw in each screw enough to "catch" the threads.

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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That didn't work

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And the screws won't align for me to do soo

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 8:38 PM

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hm, want to jump in a voice call and try and figure this out?

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Yeah but he warned it is phone audio

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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aye aye, no problem. give me a moment to grab a headset

knotty quiver Jan 8, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Which vc should we join

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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!levels

still roostBOT Jan 8, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Here is Newegg's leaderboard: https://mee6.xyz/leaderboard/500085440221806603

old charm Jan 8, 2020, 8:43 PM

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okay, so I think I fixed it

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I just had to disable "quick startup"

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but knock on wood still

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:46 PM

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i have a question what’s a good PSU? I’m new to pc gaming and i’m about to build a gaming pc i just need a PSU and then i can finally build the PC

sudden turret Jan 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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gold or better

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Good brands and generally not cheap. Theres a few things that go into it

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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umm i’m not sure what’s better is gold good like i said i’m kind of new to this stuff

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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If @ Hei is around, then @ him

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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ok

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I the #cases-psu-and-cooling channel

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in

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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ok

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Or to be fair you can scroll up there and you might see some good suggestions

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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ok thanks

old charm Jan 8, 2020, 8:56 PM

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@safe marsh corsair is one i see referenced a lot. I've got one as per the recommendation from this discord but I couldn't objectively tell you how "good" they are

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:57 PM

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is that a PSU

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Its a brand that make PSUs. Some bad some good.

safe marsh Jan 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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mk

blissful crescent Jan 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

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so would this be flippable?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HKPL7T

tight bluff Jan 8, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I wouldnt stick a 390 in it at all

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Id buy a used 580 with a good cooler from ebay for 100-120

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Like the sapphire nitro or red devil

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Is there any way that the ECS A780LM-M2 - 1.0 mobo and an athlon ii x4 610e can form a decent setup?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:02 PM

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it can be a machine. And depending on what your expectations are, it can be called decent.

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

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If my expectations are 1080p60 gaming with mid-tier games?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:11 PM

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mid-tier from what generation?

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Modern day, like the 2020 releases

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:13 PM

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i would not be willing to put my name on that promise.

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Okay, thanks

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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the main challenge is the cpu, it is not exactly fast

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:16 PM

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I’m aware

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:16 PM

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kk

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:16 PM

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The maximum ram possible with that mobo is 16GB 1600 ddr3

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Is that any good?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:17 PM

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by todays standard? no

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by the standard of the time it was manufactured (the board), it was middle of the road

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:20 PM

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"There are 1 PCIe x16 slots on this motherboard. This means it is perfectly capable of accommodating the latest graphics cards, although it is important to try and use a graphics card with the same graphics card interface of PCIe v1.x, as anything below will not reach the motherboard's potential, and anything above will have its performance slashed to the bandwidth maximum of the ECS A780LM-M2's PCIe v1.x"

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I read this under https://www.pc-specs.com/mobo/ECS/ECS_A780LM-M2/1778

ECS A780LM-M2 - Best Compatible ECS A780LM-M2 Mobo

Best PC compatible ECS ECS A780LM-M2 Motherboard. Build a ECS ECS A780LM-M2 Mobo PC with our PC builder

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Which gpus fit in these specifications

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?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:20 PM

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not anything modern, if you take the words at their value

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:21 PM

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U reckon I can trust the website just like that?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:21 PM

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what you are reading is the info from when it was released

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on the flipside, any gpu will work in the pci-e slot

stoic island Jan 8, 2020, 9:22 PM

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It should be pcie 3.0 right

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:24 PM

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that mainboard is so old it has 1.0

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from the manual: "The motherboard incorporates the AMD RS780L Northbridge (NB) and SB710
Southbridge (SB) chipsets. The Northbridge supports the HyperTransportTM 3.0 interface.
It supports two DDR3 slots with maximum memory size of 8 GB. One PCI
Express x16 slot, intended for Graphics Interface, is fully compliant to the PCI
Express Base Specification Revision 1.1."

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:28 PM

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If we take the ECS A780LM-M2 - 1.0 mobo and the athlon ii x4 610e CPU. And ram and gpu maxed for what’s allowed or possible. Could we run this?

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And that

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Oh, it’s in german. U understand tho?

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:28 PM

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aye, i read german (slowly, but i do read it)

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Okay

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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and the details in what you posted is universal :)

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Yup

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:30 PM

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and in theory, you might be able to get it to run, but you would have to be lucky, because you are below specs

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gpu can be made to comply with the specs, that is not a problem as such.

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it comes back to that CPU

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also, the manufacturer claims that the board can only handle 8 gigs of ram total

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http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_SPEC/EN-US/Motherboard/A780LM-M2 -LL-V1-DO-0-RR-/Socket AM3-LL-AMD-RR-

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Oh okay, only 8 then

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I thought I could just max 2 slots, 8 gigs each...

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:32 PM

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nope, 4 gigs per slot

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:33 PM

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The website won’t load for me, but I’ve read differently

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:33 PM

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but let me double check, because it is written "weirdly"

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Okay

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:33 PM

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"MEMORY
Dual-channel DDR3 memory architecture
2 x 240-pin DDR3 DIMM socket support up to 8 GB
Support DDR3 up to 1800(OC)/1600(OC)/1333/1066 DDR3 SDRAM
*(Due to AMD CPU spec limitation, please refer to Memory QVL for more information)" <- direct copy from the site

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yeah, I might have misread earlier

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I think, I thought the 8GB were meant per slot but are actually maximum

foggy hazel Jan 8, 2020, 9:35 PM

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https://puu.sh/EXM5i/cf4587a71a.png

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from the manual

ember sierra Jan 8, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Omfg, how can you place adverts on top of the text... seriously?!

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