building-and-recc-chat

[deep skiff]

it fits all my boxes

1440p, ips, >60hz, somewhat cheap

[round flare]

Oh nice

[faint thorn]

So what are the draw backs to getting prebuilt. Because I was told that since I’m under 18, I should just get a prebuilt by my parents, is it worth it?

[round flare]

From what I've seen some companies offer really beefy desktops with financing

[deep skiff]

usually prebuilts are more expensive

and no, me and zack are under 18 and have built computers no problem

just watch a few videos on it

[round flare]

i'm under 18 as well and have been able to save up

granted it took a few years but

[deep skiff]

i just got my gpu super cheap and have a part time job

[round flare]

nice

make sure you keep checking newegg and other deal sites since sometimes pretty good pc's pop up on sale for lower than custom

[floral parrot]

what GPU did you get

[deep skiff]

1070 ti strix

for 226 shipped

[floral parrot]

yea good card i am gonna get rx 5700XT which is really good

[weak ember]

Partner card or?

Cause R.I.P. blower model

[floral parrot]

oh yea imma get the pulse one with 2 100mm fans

[weak ember]

Aye, that's a good idea

Pretty damn good card too

[floral parrot]

yea the blower card could heat a house lol

[weak ember]

More like cook my food lel

[floral parrot]

yea its better then the 2070 Super and is 200 dollars cheaper

[weak ember]

Way better with the bang for buck tbh

[floral parrot]

yea their making their own raytracing thing

[weak ember]

Unfortunately I have to go with 2080 Ti for my setup unless AMD releases something on that tier in 2 months

But for anything below that outright 5700XT

Tbh idk why anyone would even go for a 5700 non XT

[pulsar garnet]

Strict budget

[weak ember]

Fair but $50 more for quite a bit more performance is like hmm

[floral parrot]

yea the 5700 is a pretty good card but not as much value as 5700XT

the intel 660p is a good drive but if you want the fastest stuff samsung is the way to go like if you agree

[little osprey]

Yes, but there's a lot in between. Eventually optane will get cheap enough that some may consider it for a boot drive. Currently a 380GB 905p is $400.

[floral parrot]

yea optain is fast as frick

but intel 660p is amazing value

[pulsar garnet]

I like my 660p

[nimble osprey]

i have the 660p too and i love it

[little osprey]

TBH, I think the 660p is best used as a game drive. It really does lose a lot of i/o performance when nearing capacity.

But for $85 1TB, that's just a good deal regardless

[floral parrot]

yea for editing and doing what Mr c does it would not be optimal

[little osprey]

"for editing" can be broken down further, premier *can benefit from splitting up OS, project file, media cache , scratch, and export etc drives

[faint thorn]

I wanted to build mine but my dad was like “no, because you’ve never had a pc before”. And I’m here thinking to myself, I’m in computer science, I’m top of my class and I’ve taken apart and rebuilt multiple PCs. But they think that just ordering a prebuilt would be a lot easier.

[little osprey]

You also have to take into account the ~4GB/s DMI bottleneck to the PCH (on z390 etc) and possible benefits to running m.2's from CPU lane pcie slots via NGFF risers

HEDT platforms usually have native bios support for pcie lane bifurcation letting you put 4x m.2's in an x16 slot to give full bandwidth

[floral parrot]

@faint thorn its a really good idea to build a pc i mean i had zero experience when I built my first pc and it went all smooth and if you just arnt stupid you should be fine

[little osprey]

AMD desktop CPU - PCH - NVME bandwidth bottleneck possibilities are a bit more platform specific between b450/x470/x570 and then again for mobo specific implementations within each

This is a general x570 block diagram https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2019/6/84149e21-86a0-4150-95c7-7bbc48f99b05.png

[faint thorn]

@floral parrot I know and I have experience they’re just stubborn

[latent bronze]

Just curious but FreeSync should work with this monitor if i was to be using a GTX 1660/1660 Ti https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16824025515?Item=9SIAHJN9VT0980

[faint thorn]

Any cases y’all recommend?

[floral parrot]

lol mine are letting me build my second one (ive built more then 2 but this is the second one for me)

[faint thorn]

Just to price compare

[floral parrot]

oh yea this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/9CCD4D

i love it

[latent bronze]

The only 2 cases from Cooler Master i liked is https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb500-tuf-edition-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119351

and this https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-td500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119343

[floral parrot]

i like cooler master overall

[latent bronze]

I used to till i bought the MasterBox Lite 3.1

[faint thorn]

Thoughts?

[floral parrot]

not bad but you just need a good GPU now

[faint thorn]

Yeah I was looking at a rtx 2080. But I haven’t looked at any bottle necking issues

[latent bronze]

The MasterBox Lite 3.1 has almost no airflow

@floral parrot This is the only other one that was sexy but always sold out in Canada https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-q300p-micro-atx/p/N82E16811119332

[faint thorn]

I’m also gonna get a terabyte ssd

[floral parrot]

what type?

also yea that is a pretty sexy one @latent bronze

[faint thorn]

That’s is sexy but I don’t really want my first build to be a micro

[latent bronze]

ya was always sold out which is when i bought the Deepcool Matrexx 55 which i did like until i found out i had to disconnect the wires from my board in order to clean the dust filters

[faint thorn]

Actually this one

[latent bronze]

front panel ports was connected to the removeable front panel

[faint thorn]

Just for the added cores

[latent bronze]

That looks like the same one you linked before

[faint thorn]

It is a 2700x not a 2600x

[latent bronze]

first image shows 2700X as well

[faint thorn]

Wait what the heck

That’s not what I chose the first time

Well nvm I had it right the first time

[latent bronze]

Besides it also depends what you're doing with your system

@faint thorn What do you plan on doing with your system?

[faint thorn]

Gaming. Overwatch. Destiny 2. FPS genre in general

So high frames. Good resolution

[latent bronze]

If you're just gaming you could just stick with the 2600 instead

[round flare]

what's the difference between ryzens that end in x

and the other ones

[latent bronze]

higher out of the box clocks

[round flare]

o

Good to know

[latent bronze]

the only difference i notice really

[round flare]

found this and don't know how good it is

[latent bronze]

is that parts or already built?

[faint thorn]

It’s ok

[round flare]

prebuilt

[latent bronze]

You're looking at this one arent you https://i.gyazo.com/5e8fde5de585ba817fb325d261fff9cc.png

[round flare]

I have my setup just giving suggestions

Although I shouldn't since I don't know very much lol

[latent bronze]

It is a good system with a B450 motherboard in it

[faint thorn]

Small ssd, and for high resolution graphics and high frames might be tough. That was my gripe with the lower cost systems

[floral parrot]

gn everyone

[round flare]

bye

[latent bronze]

Well 512gb isn't that small and also you could always in the future add in a 2tb hdd

[round flare]

idk what brand or type the ssd is

because it could be the one notch m.2 right

sorry don't know mame

[latent bronze]

usually the SSD included are good not the best but can do the job

before i changed my case there was a prebuilt i was thinking of getting

[round flare]

I got a 500gb samsung evo as a gift

[faint thorn]

Thoughts

[round flare]

that's pretty good I'm told

yeah I have no idea what any of that means

lol

[latent bronze]

@faint thorn for the games you mainly mentioned you wouldn't need a GPU like that

[little osprey]

Post the actual link tot he card

[latent bronze]

and also this was the prebuilt i was thinking of getting https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883289032

[round flare]

that looks really beefy though ngl

at what point do I know a component is overkill

[little osprey]

The gaming trio is a top tier GPU cooler imo

[latent bronze]

But for games like Overwatch and Destiny 2 that is too overkill

[round flare]

what's the most demanding game in your opinion

[little osprey]

BTW the Gaming "X" vs Gaming as well as the FTW3 vs FTW3 ultra on 2080 ti's = exact same bin but markup for factory OC

[latent bronze]

most demanding games right now is like Assassin's Creed Odyssey as an example

[little osprey]

Most GPU demanding? Warhammer II total war is up there, but these days - depends a ton on what monitor / res / fps target you have

[latent bronze]

Soon the new Doom will be demanding

[faint thorn]

Oh I mean I might play the newer acs I have Odyssey on Xbox

[latent bronze]

It really depends in the end what you play often that might be demanding

The one game i am getting when it comes out that i know will be demanding is Cyberpunk 2077

[faint thorn]

Idk thought I play a bunch of different games

[latent bronze]

This is why i upgraded my CPU to the Ryzen 5 2600

[faint thorn]

Ranging from overwatch to ark to forza to like anything really

[latent bronze]

Ark can be pretty demanding

with the GPU i have now i was only able to play Ark on like the medium settings

@faint thorn i would say to go for the RTX 2060 Super or 2070 Super instead

Or if you want to use AMD as well for the GPU you can always go for the 5700 XT

performance is on par with the 2070 Super for less of the cost

[faint thorn]

One thing I’ll say is my goal is to be able to play modded games at the best they can reasonably be. Not like 180 FPS but like a steady 60-90

[latent bronze]

Also you do know next month Destiny 2 is moving to steam right?

[faint thorn]

Yeah

I don’t have it bought yet

[silver bough]

Can someone help me find a SSD for my laptop i want to upgrade it

[latent bronze]

I believe on steam it will be free to play for a certain level and then buy the expansions after

@silver bough 2.5" or M.2

[faint thorn]

How big?

[silver bough]

honestly i have no idea all i know is that i want to upgrade my Laptop which the serial is gl702v

[faint thorn]

@latent bronze I know. It’s called new light. But I’m gonna buy digital deluxe and link my Xbox account

[latent bronze]

@silver bough like this https://i.gyazo.com/32fc856566a868fa36250d36d6e5a16e.png

or like this https://i.gyazo.com/2cbb98675838455d06bf1e42381dd203.png

[silver bough]

what do you mean ?

[latent bronze]

Those are the types

[faint thorn]

Like want type of slotting does your laptop have

[silver bough]

i have no idea

i will see if i can find it

[round flare]

hey so what does gddr5 mean on a graphics card

my ram says gddr4

[faint thorn]

Ram quality I think

[latent bronze]

Memory right now is DDR4 and GPU Video memory is GDDR5/GDDR5X/GDDR6

[round flare]

K so it doesn't imply any issues correct

[latent bronze]

@silver bough click "This PC" and tell me the storages you have now

for memory wise i can not explain that cause i didn't really study it

[little osprey]

Userbenchmark is a useful tool to have people send their build info

[latent bronze]

Also if he is just replacing a hard drive for a SSD i would suggest this one https://www.newegg.com/team-group-l5-lite-3d-1tb/p/N82E16820331115

been using that for over a year and no issues and the temps i get on that SSD on load max is 30c

idle 21c to 23c

[silver bough]

Interesting

[latent bronze]

ill brb as well going out to get pizza

[little osprey]

If you're in the market for a new 1TB sata, for boot or storage, why pick that at $90

[deep skiff]

u can get a nvme for that much

@latent bronze and u forgot hbm2 which is faster than gddr6 iirc

high end workstation cards and vega used hbm2

[faint thorn]

Thoughts?

MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER DirectX 12 RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING TRIO 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16814137454?m_ver=1

There is the link

[latent bronze]

zack don't you have school in the morning lol

[lime forge]

...yea

ive been doing homework all night i want a little bit of a break

[latent bronze]

Isn't minecraft your break 🤔

[lime forge]

yep

just got on

[little osprey]

just received my case & monitor yayee

[strong crescent]

What would happen if you add 2 different type of ram but they have the same amount of gb and MHz

[pulsar garnet]

[latent bronze]

timings would be off

[latent bronze]

If you have 4 slots and 1 and 3 is the same and 2 and 4 is the same but different brand it would work but i believe the timings for the memories would like sync up in a way

This is what i am also assuming so

[hearty tree]

Sup friends

[agile bear]

The sky

[scarlet quarry]

Space

[floral parrot]

the clouds

[pure leaf]

Hey all. Looking for some opinions. My build started off as a cheap microcenter "I need a pc cause my laptop died" starter build to a daily task (office apps, photoshop, browsing, live tv streaming) and sim racing (iracing) build. I finally have it at a comfortable spot where everything runs nicely. But I'm always looking for deals, daily, to keep upgrading and improving. I just would like to know some opinions on what I should be looking for and what direction I should go with my next purchases. I'm torn between a GPU, or upgrade CPU/Mobo. I'd like to add an additional monitor. Currently using an old LCD Samsung TV as a side screen to browse. Here are my specs:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600, 3400 MHz
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming
RAM: 32GB TOTAL
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3000 C16
- Gold Key Tech. NMUD480E8x-2666 [Microcenter brand? Forza] (2x8GB) OC to match other RAM
GPU: ASUS ROG Strix Radeon RX 570 O4G Gaming OC Edition GDDR5
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster Curved 27" C27F591 (FreeSync) [27" VA LCD]
2 SSDs: ADATA SU635 (480 GB) and Inland SATA SSD (250 GB)
PSU: CORSAIR - CX-M Series 650W 80 Plus Bronze Modular
Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-06 Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case, White
Cooling: Cooler Master RR-212S-20PK-R1 Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Cooler w/ DEEPCOOL RF120M 5x120mm (2 on CPU Heatsink, Other 3 + 2 Corsair 120MM in Case).

[latent bronze]

@pure leaf Go for sapphire

[tough pewter]

i got a question for someone that knows to much about motherboards

i got a 1 Tb hdd drive and i'm trying to get it faster, but i'm trying to decide if i should go with optane or if i should just get an m.2 storage rather.

[lime forge]

i wouldnt get optane

too expensive

id get a nvme m.2 ssd

[deep skiff]

^

[rough loom]

arent gen 4 nvme's faster than optane?

[lime forge]

you all are so worried about speed lol

and to answer ur question uhhhh idk lol

[rough loom]

Im not worried about speed. just curious

[still roost]

MeraTheWolf#1242 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rough loom]

I would be happy replacing all my main drives with ssd's

MEE6 is way too sensitive

-.-

[grim juniper]

hello

i have one question that would help me out

nvm

[scarlet quarry]

Hey guys, looking to upgrade my PSU and GPU within the next couple months, as well as rehome my build into a better case, and was looking for some suggestions. Okay so here's my current build specs:
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
Cooler: Corsair H115i Platinum AIO
GPU: MSI Radeon RX 570 Armor 8Gb OC
Mobo: MSI x470 Gaming Pro
Memory: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200 16c (4 x 8gb)
PSU: be Quiet 500w 80+ Gold
Storage: 1 - Samsung Evo Plus 500Gb M.2 SSD, 1 - Seagate Barracuda 1Tb 7200rpm HDD
Case: TT v200 TG RGB
Monitor: Currently don't have one, been using my 65" LG 4K TV in the living room till I get one

I already know I want to go with a Radeon 5700 GPU, more looking for a PSU & Case suggestion if possible. TYIA!

[true void]

@edgy copper So with the 9900k, you can install it and do your build

Get stuff installed

Etc etc

The GPU can come later

And you can do some light work

But mainly get your setup the way you want it and then operate

@scarlet quarry NZXT has stellar looking cases

Corsair has nice PSUs as well as EVGA

I also can get you an EVGA discount in DMs

[edgy copper]

okay cool cool

[true void]

I can get anyone a discount for EVGA in DMs

[scarlet quarry]

Yeah that thing is a bit of a beast so it can handle a decent load on it's own, but absolutely wait to be 100% whole before starting full work @edgy copper

[edgy copper]

thats the best part lol

waiting

these are the parts i picked up on my first order

[scarlet quarry]

@true void my hero lol thanks. Was looking at Corsair cases but $ is an issue with me...student loans about to destroy my wallet but I'm throwing this build together so I can start making games and putting my degree to use

*NZXT

[edgy copper]

lianli 11dynamic case, asus XI Hero, nzxt x62 280mm, 970 evo plus 500gb, evga superNOVA 750 G+, and 2x8gb 3200mhz tridentZ

[scarlet quarry]

@edgy copper the Kraken was a really good pick...just wish CAM was better

What are you using the rig for?

[edgy copper]

i wanted to go witth the full radiator so i could have maximum cooling but idk

mainly for coding and rendering

[true void]

@scarlet quarry Check for sales always, Amazon and Newegg especially

[edgy copper]

i've limited mysef to not game on it till i get certified in HTML &Python

[scarlet quarry]

@edgy copper the 280mm is solid, had it in my build originally but mine had the pump die 2 weeks in. Thing is a BEAST lol. But yeah if you can afford the full size, I can only imagine it being worth every penny.

Like I said...I just hate CAM

@true void oh always do, drives the Mrs. insane haha. Hoping for some hella good Black Friday deals, just sorta biding my time till then

@edgy copper you in school now?

[edgy copper]

How's the software? i thought it was rated good

Yes! im finally in

im doing some math rn

btw do you know if the razer Cynosa keyboard in any good? i picked it up for 50$ since i needed one

it was the cheapest out of all the razer stuff (i only got it bc i already have a razer mouse and firefly)

[scarlet quarry]

Okay so apparently they just updated the software and it's way better, but it would always give hella bad/wrong temp readings. That, and the RGB doesn't sync with anything other than CAM. Lol not a deal breaker, but annoying. But it kept my 2700x nice and frosty while working in Unity/UE4, VS and Blender for class so performance wise it's 100% worth it

And nah rn I'm super limited for space, using a logitch wireless mouse & keyboard and my TV in the living room as my monitor haha

Just wanted something to handle my work without feeling like it was melting, like my school provided crapbook pro

[edgy copper]

i got the mouse and fly for free so lucky for me lol

ill be using mine on a 720p tv

until i get a good monitor

[scarlet quarry]

Niiiiice. Free is always awesome haha. I'd try grabbing a monitor on BF, or maybe right before or after. Gonna be a while for me though, nowhere to put my rig where I could use the set up I want to do till the wife and I get into a bigger place

[edgy copper]

im waiting to get this and try to generate some money from it so that i can move out closer to the college

[scarlet quarry]

You with your rents or on your own? Lol not tryna be the typical "random dude offering unsolicited advice" but if you're with your parents and it's a rent free or super cheap situation, I'd say stick it out till you land a gig in the field you're aiming for. Save some $ for future costs

[edgy copper]

parents, my buddy said i could stay at his place for like 80$ which isnt bad

and when i go to reapply for next years classes id still get full tuition

[true void]

@scarlet quarry /r/buildapcsales is always good on Reddit btw

[scarlet quarry]

@edgy copper yeah I'd say do the cheapest you can till closer to your degree goal. Check out Indeed and Glassdoor for internship openings in your area for current students (there are a LOT more than you'd think) that would help bolster your resume & portfolio as well as help familiarize you with various programs and systems you might not have considered before. Bank the extra $ and either invest it into your workspace, or into getting into some of the various indie support programs offered in the industry. Xbox, for example, have a $19 one time fee to utilize their indie support. But yeah man I made two mistakes: moved out into an overpriced apartment (thanks, MD), and got married before enrolling/graduating. Now I pay $1600/mo in rent, and getting married made any/all grants I would

*would've gotten disappear

Lol my wife and I almost got an annulment when they were like "here's how much you would have gotten"...almost half the costs 😂

@true void dude I completely forgot about Reddit! Thanks!

[little osprey]

Can someone help me out?

[ivory beacon]

Is this where i can ask questions?

[lime sigil]

I just bought a AMD Ryzen 5 2600 + MSI X470 Gaming Plus with 16GB RAM

[round flare]

do I take the black bar things off

and put the cooler in

or does the cooler go on it

[lime forge]

what cooler are you using

[round flare]

there's no specifications

[lime forge]

yeah take off the black bars

[round flare]

on the box or anything

Alright thanks

[lime forge]

yep

[round flare]

the screws aren't reaching

only two of them did go in

the other two won't reach

even if a push a little

[pulsar garnet]

Hold up the back plate

[ivory beacon]

So basically... masterbox k500 . Rog strix x470-f gaming motherboard. This is my first time building a pc and im stuck. Been on youtube all day so thay isnt going to help me. FeelsDeadMan case comes with 2 LED installed fans. 4 pin and 3 pin connectors on each fan. The 4 pin cables connect into another cable that connects into this rgb controller or something like that. That ends up connecting into the psu. The 3 pin connectors go straight into psu. Ive seen on some builds that the 3pin go into motherboard. But these will not reach the motherboard headers. Is this correct?

[latent bronze]

It's an RGB box

[ivory beacon]

Then

Is this correct?

[latent bronze]

I believe you use that if your motherboard doesn't have the connection for the RGB

[ivory beacon]

There is like 2 rgbs on the motherboard

[latent bronze]

does one say argb?

usually when you see 2 one is for solid RGB's and the other is for addressable RGB

[ivory beacon]

The rgb box connect into the psu

The 3 pin connectors dont reach the headers on the motherboard

And they are also connected into the psu

Im just so stuck here i will try to draw whay is currently setup

[chilly marsh]

ew molex

[latent bronze]

For RGB it is better that then sata to be honest

[ivory beacon]

It came with the bubdle ok.

[chilly marsh]

nowadays sata is better, molex is outdated and is a hassle overall

[latent bronze]

@warm nova want to jump in and help Rampage out a little busy with a dungeon

[next tangle]

Hey, sorry about that @latent bronze But now I am pretty confident with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rd7v8Y that. I'm sorry if you took this as me tending to troll. I did not mean it like that 🙂

[ivory beacon]

Got it now

[next tangle]

wow that hurts my head since I have to turn it pretty far to read it

[scarlet quarry]

Hahahaha

[ivory beacon]

Yeah i thought it would be normal

[scarlet quarry]

@ivory beacon don't listen to him, it's a masterpiece

[next tangle]

LUL

If you have a samsung, you can go to the photos and press edit on it and it'll let you rotate it

not sure if you can do it on an iphone

I have an S9 so I don't know if it's for the general android software

[ivory beacon]

[next tangle]

There we go

can you dm me that pic? I wanna use it for when I build my PC : P

[ivory beacon]

Wat im asking if this is correct wym

[next tangle]

if it is correct though

[ivory beacon]

Im stuck here

And i cant even troubleshoot because i dont have the gpu yet

[next tangle]

oof

what are the specs?

[ivory beacon]

So basically... masterbox k500 . Rog strix x470-f gaming

[next tangle]

I meant CPU and GPU lmao

Sorry though

[still roost]

Rampage#9060 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ivory beacon]

Idk

[next tangle]

oh

how come?

[ivory beacon]

Im a potato

[next tangle]

oh lmao

[ivory beacon]

Thats the motherboard

The gpu is a 1070

[next tangle]

ooo nice

[ivory beacon]

Fe i think

[next tangle]

i'm gonna get the 1070 for my build

[ivory beacon]

Ya my friend sold it to me on the cheap

[next tangle]

oh wow

[scarlet quarry]

Nice

[next tangle]

how much did you get it for?

[ivory beacon]

2fitty

[next tangle]

Oh cool!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rd7v8Y

I'm upgrading my current PC

Trying to stay under 500$ for the upgrade

I'm getting a 1070 for 199.99$

[ivory beacon]

I feel scamazzed rn

[next tangle]

oh lmao

[ivory beacon]

Oh its founders edition

What ever that means

[next tangle]

the one I'm getting isn't

FE is a blower card so it has worse cooling

I think.

[still roost]

Rampage#9060 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ivory beacon]

But all in all... dont use USPS. my stufft was supposed to get here yesterday

[next tangle]

In my state, USPS is fast

[ivory beacon]

And now it might look like wont get until monday

Do they work on saturdays?

[next tangle]

Don't think so

[ivory beacon]

[next tangle]

If you get it off of Amazon, their shipping does

[ivory beacon]

My friend sent me his

Yeah amazon is good and accurate

[next tangle]

They CAN be accurate

[lilac snow]

Hi: I have a question about the Lian-Li PC-011 Dynamic Razer case. I don't have a radiator to install, so I am just using the side mounted fans and top mounted fans for cooling the case. That would make these fans exhaust fans and not intake fans. Does anyone see a problem with that kind of setup for proper cooling? Thanks. John

[next tangle]

If you have all exhaust fans, I'd say to change a few to intake

[ivory beacon]

You dont have a fan on your processor?

[next tangle]

You don't want all exhaust (atleast form what I've seen/heard)

And you don't need a radiator if they're just fans.

If you're using an AIO liquid cooler, then you'll need a radiator

(for the CPU)

But like I said, they're just fans and not used for the CPU cooler

[ivory beacon]

Wait wah

[next tangle]

@ivory beacon He probably uses an air cooler

[lilac snow]

Yes I have a fan on the processor and three fans on my GPU geforce RTX 2070 super.

[next tangle]

You mean you have a CPU cooler on your processor, correct?

[lilac snow]

Yes

[ivory beacon]

Ugh. So much to learn

[lilac snow]

True

[ivory beacon]

I like it though it is time

[next tangle]

@lilac snow Other than what I said to change some to intake fans, you'll be good

[lilac snow]

Ok. I appreciate the info. Thanks again.

[next tangle]

Yup!

[ivory beacon]

I feel like i made a mistake by not letting my friend build it

[ivory beacon]

Ok i think im good now. Now just waiting on the gpu so i can start troubleshooting

Hopefully tomorrow

[magic vigil]

What should i get for the best performance at 3800mhz https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232856?Item=N82E16820232856&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FMFdrxr%2Fgskill-trident-z-neo-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c14d-16gtzn&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-LWnKBM8VQAisKLUUAPDoXQ

or https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5WGNDN/?tag=pcpapi-20

[little osprey]

The first. But why do you want memory with a 3800 MHz XMP rating

[magic vigil]

so I can get my infinity fabric at 1900

[little osprey]

Do you think that 1900 IF is contingent on 3800 MT/s XMP rating memory?

[magic vigil]

XMP with the memory set to 3800MHz/fclock 1900MHz/mclock:uclock ratio forced to 1:1 (i.e. everything running at 1900MHz), again with everything running at 1900MHz and DRAM timings optimized by the Ryzen DRAM Calculator (primary timings 16-16-16-32)

the second option is what i'll be doing

This is based off of the gamersnexus ram tests recently released

[little osprey]

I forgot we talked about build options last monday - I remember

[magic vigil]

yup

[little osprey]

Why not buy 3200c14 and clock to 3600 / 3800

For 1800,1833,1900 fclk

Or buy 3600c15 and clock up

The second amazon kit you linked is garbo

[magic vigil]

ok, the timings also matters more than the frequency to a degree

[little osprey]

The 3600c14 is marked up 3200c14 b-die marked up 200%

[magic vigil]

my thought process said I might as well ask

heres the article from gn

[little osprey]

I've seen it

[magic vigil]

ok

[little osprey]

Anyway, didn't mean to so grouchy, but IIRC you're in the market for a no-compromise high end gaming workstation

[magic vigil]

yup

you didnt seem grouchy to me

[little osprey]

As such, I'd recommend buying 4x8 or 4x16 GB 3200 MHz Cl14 kits

[magic vigil]

is the 3200 cl14 able to oc to my previous requirement

[little osprey]

Happy to explain my reasoning if you want, but -long story , will post in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[magic vigil]

ok go post it there

[next tangle]

@magic vigil

https://tenor.com/view/sheeeeeiiit-wtf-nah-fam-biiiihhh-gif-10739504

just go with 128GB 4000MHz RAM

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-yes-yeees-yay-excited-gif-13926183

[faint thorn]

Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming PC Computer Case, Aura Sync Compatible Dual Ring RGB LED Fans, Top Mount PSU & HDD/SSD, Tempered Glass & Steel - PRISM S500 https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16811147283?m_ver=1

Thoughts?

[winged hollow]

i’m just gonna hope this is the right channel. is this a good deal?
Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6GHz, RTX 2070 Super 8G, 500GB SSD, 16GB DDR4 3000MHz, RGB Fans, Windows 10 Home 64-bit, 120mm AIO Cooler, 802.11AC Wi-Fi for $1,499.99

[lime forge]

ehhh

[winged hollow]

so yes or no?

[lime forge]

not that great

[pulsar garnet]

not really

[lime forge]

for fifteen hundred you can do better

[round flare]

anyone have a good guide for cable management and installing graphics card

[winged hollow]

ok. i’ll keep looking

[round flare]

because I have no idea what goes to what

[winged hollow]

what about this one for $1,149.99?
Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 3.2 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 1TB SSD, 16GB DDR4, AC WiFi, Windows 10 Home 64-bit

[pulsar garnet]

Are you looking at prebuilts

[zealous pilot]

@elfin flicker nice

[elfin flicker]

Thanks mate, now I just need to find time to use it 😂

[coarse coral]

[paper ermine]

Anyone know what a tkg cable is?

[marsh ferry]

Is there anyone who's is knowledgeable about processors and help me find out if it's causing my computer to bottleneck ?

[true void]

@scarlet quarry Look here too! This is sold out now sadly https://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16811146298?icid=WP_2_09072019

Things come up there as well

[scarlet quarry]

@true void thanks man! Noticed that earlier, but already sold out 😭 lol

[winged hollow]

@pulsar garnet yes i am looking at a prebuilt

[latent bronze]

If you're going for a prebuilt system that is too much for one

@winged hollow Building a system is easy and would cost you a lot less

[winged hollow]

are those parts any good though?

[latent bronze]

The parts are good the price is very bad

Also if you're planning on 1440p/4K gaming those parts are fine but for 1080p you would want to go lower on the GPU like a 1660 Ti

[winged hollow]

i was going for 1440p/4k

[short arrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7JVBgw

Any suggestions?

[scarlet quarry]

@short arrow maybe get a more powerful psu in case of future upgrades

[deep skiff]

drop the case fans, get vengence lpx ram, a 480gb ssd and a 650w/700/750w psu

thats like twice the price

[scarlet quarry]

Oh really lol nvm. Gonna delete it

[deep skiff]

here @short arrow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G6ZryX

[lime forge]

@humble geyser nice build

gen 4 ssd 👌

[little osprey]

Used 1080 ti for 490 or new 2070 super for 509

[latent bronze]

new 2070 super

[little osprey]

Ok I have a 2060 right now. But want to jump up a bit

[little osprey]

Well price is the issue. O did the GPU benchmark and the ti shows 11th etc.

[latent bronze]

2060 to 2070 Super is about a 30% performance boost

[little osprey]

I have the 2700x right now. Was going to upgrade either my mobo to x570 instead of the b450 or do a graphics card.

Thanks!

[latent bronze]

30% is still better for todays standards

[open yew]

Hello, new here to this chat. I used to be into building laptops years ago and long out of the game. Would someone be able to help look over a build I have ready on NewEgg and see if I'm missing anything?

[faint thorn]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ the build I’m looking at doing. Thoughts?

Nvm that didn’t work

[faint thorn]

Skytech Legacy Gaming Computer PC Desktop – Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6GHz, RTX 2070 Super 8G, 500GB SSD, 16GB DDR4 3000MHz, RGB Fans, Windows 10 Home 64-bit, 120mm AIO Cooler, 802.11AC Wi-Fi https://m.newegg.com/product/9SIAKMK9VA0160?m_ver=1

Thoughts

[atomic spear]

Hi, I want to build in an NZXT H500i with a gigabyte x570 aorus elite and noctua Nh-d15, does anyone know if these will fit?

[latent bronze]

That is just an overpriced prebuilt

The motherboard they have in that system is this one https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157843

[deep skiff]

👀

[crystal seal]

Ok fellow computer peeps, I have a budget of $2,500 ($2,250 really. explanation below) and wanna build the best possible PC. I will need everything except the monitor, keyboard and mouse. Included in the build must be the Elgato 4K60 capture card. ($249.99) let’s see what you guys can come up with.

[deep skiff]

any intel/nvidia/amd preferences?

[little osprey]

I’m currently installing a hyper 212 rgb fan on my motherboard and the pins won’t line up

[dusty peak]

Does anyone know what 3rd gen ryzen processor would be needed to run a 5700 XT ?

[latent bronze]

any

[lime forge]

3600 or above id say

[little osprey]

What games do you play, do you prefer competitive advantage/fps or pretty graphics, what model monitor?

[latent bronze]

You can use a 3400G and still be fine

[little osprey]

Not on a 2250 budget when gaming is the priority haha

[latent bronze]

@little osprey You know it is a different person asking right

[little osprey]

Lol oops

Though, same answer. If you have budget for a 5700, why go with the 3400g

[latent bronze]

cause it is still not a weak pairing

[little osprey]

@atomic spear Sup

[atomic spear]

Hey

[little osprey]

Want input on parts choice?

[round flare]

question: when I was putting in the standoffs the screw kind of rubbed against the motherboard

is it possible to suffer permanent damage

it wasn't too severe

nothing noticeable unless you really look

[chilly marsh]

if it scratched something, that will most likely affect it in some way

lets hope you didnt scratch anything.

[round flare]

I can't explain it properly

it like when I screwed it in it took a little bit like not even noticeable and pushed it out

but they have shields around the standoff holed though right

*holes

[shy rivet]

‪Quick question tho, gotta Z370 and thinking about buying a 8700k for $280, worth the buy?‬

Tag me of you reply so I don’t have to scroll!

[fossil hedge]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/3setCj2avOXVAw_b47nobQpWzdDr1WHO7wc4K4wojcA/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/M-2Scfj4FZk/maxresdefault.jpg

the full edit from all the youtubers who got demonetized and blocked by the verge.

I thought it was funny.

[sudden turret]

how is this buildchat.

lol

[little osprey]

Since I needed to image a few OS volumes anyway..
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/20019814

[drowsy ledge]

Option:1 NEW PC

Ryzen 2700x 8 core 16 thread @ 3.7GHZ boost to 4.2GHz = 250$
16gb ddr4 corsair vengeance pro RGB ram = 73$
X470 Gigabyte Gaming Ultra MB = 174$
1TB SSD = 109$
RTX 2080 8GB = 709
H700i case with built in RGB = 72$

Total = 1400$

Option:2 New PC

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core @ 3.6 GHz = $199
GPU Nvidia RTX 2070-Super = $594
SSD Crucial MX500 1TB = $108
RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB = $71
MBD Gigabyte X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING = $130
CASE H700i case with built in RGB = 72$
POWER

Total = $1,103

NEW LAPTOP

Dell XPS 15

Hey guys I want to buy a new pc, havent done it in a long time. What do you think? which is better?

[karmic token]

SErver build assistance with alternative RAID adapter:

NORCO RPC-4224 4U Rackmount Server Case with 24 Hot-Swappable SATA/SAS Drive Bays (N82E16811219038)

AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000025BOX Desktop Processor (N82E16819113104)

Rosewill 1600W Modular Gaming Power Supply, Continuous @ 50 Degree C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, SLI & CrossFire Ready - HERCULES-1600S (N82E16817182251)

SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe 1.3 64L V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7E1T0BW
(N82E16820147691)

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18Q-64GTZN (N82E16820232869)

26x Seagate Exos Enterprise Capacity 3.5'' HDD 10TB (Helium) 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache Hyperscale 512e Internal Hard Drive ST10000NM0016 (9SIA2W056A8502)

CableCreation Internal Mini SAS HD Cable, 1.6FT Mini SAS SFF-8643 to Mini SAS 36Pin SFF-8087 Cable, Mini SAS 36Pin to SFF-8643 Cable, 0.5M (9SIAHBU9NM0965)

MAXSUN GeForce GT 710 DirectX 12 GT 710 HH2GM3 2GB 64-Bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Low Profile Video Card HDMI+DVI+VGA (9SIAGKC9V57591)

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS Gaming Motherboard AMD AM4 SATA 6Gb/s M.2 USB 3.2 Gen 2 HDMI ATX (9SIA6KX9H92365)

Out of stock Raid adapter below for system above, any replacement recommendations?

areca ARC-1883ix24-287 PCI-Express 3.0 x8 SAS RAID Adapter:N82E16816151173

[latent bronze]

You guys know PCPartPicker makes everything so much easier

[carmine dagger]

word

[narrow relic]

Hey does anyone use the inwin sirius loop

[lime forge]

@gaunt plover lets move here lol

not supposed to talk in build pics haha

[gaunt plover]

Mk

[lime forge]

anyways

is the rgb controlled by your pc or done via a remote?

[gaunt plover]

It’s an phon app

[lime forge]

ah

nice

also whats the pc specs?

[gaunt plover]

Ryzen 5 1600
Corsair 16 gb rgb pro, sapphire rx 580 nitro, 250 gb ssd and 2 tb hdd

The case is the NZXT h500i

The leds in the case broke tho so that’s kinda sad

[latent bronze]

decent system

[gaunt plover]

Thanks

[latent bronze]

@gaunt plover What is the problem you are having anyways?

[fossil hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/617570141613588521/621143923922042900/Screenshot_95.png

I made a lincon L.

[gaunt plover]

Wdu mean

[latent bronze]

Well seemed like zack pulled you in here for a problem

[gaunt plover]

Uh. I dunno. We were just talking about the setup. He didn’t want to chat in the build pics channel

[lime forge]

was just asking what his specs were

no issues

[latent bronze]

His specs are decent but the CPU i would upgrade it to at least a 3600

[gaunt plover]

Yeah I was planning an 1800x but that would work too

[lime forge]

2600 budget king for gaming

[chilly marsh]

ye

i just chose the 2600 X bec, there isnt much i could do with an extra 25 bucks lol

and cause i wont oc it anyways

[gaunt plover]

Yeah mine is ocd to 3.9

Might push 4.0 if im feeling lucky

[latent bronze]

2600/2600X i believe both max OC is 4.5GHz

The only reason i see people buying the X models is cause they don't overclock but the people that does would get the non X version

[gaunt plover]

Jeez

[latent bronze]

When i also say max that is also for a really good air cooling or an AIO

Water loops you might be able to push it a little higher without over heating

@gaunt plover What is your motherboard?

[gaunt plover]

Asus b 450-f, I think

[latent bronze]

So you should be able to update your bios and go to a 3600 instead which would be better than the 1800X

Zen is like AMD's prototype which are good CPU's which then they made Zen+ which improved on it and now there is Zen2 which is even better

[lime forge]

durrrrrrr

[fossil hedge]

I was thinking about using cardbourd as a case

how should I proof it ageanst ESD

[latent bronze]

People actually use wood boards inside using longer standoffs

[faint thorn]

Can I get some help y’all?

[chilly marsh]

ask awaY

[faint thorn]

What do you recommend for a 1440p res and 120-144htz refresh. Just a general build, I would prefer rgb, it’s for fps and games like ark, along with modded games

I prefer intel btw

[chilly marsh]

you want an intel build to achieve 120+fps in 1440p res correct ?

[faint thorn]

Yes

Dude that’s dope

[chilly marsh]

nice

[faint thorn]

@chilly marsh if you find anything please pm me I’m going to sleep but I read whatever it is tomorrow morning

[chilly marsh]

aight

you'll get an answer soon

im doing something

[faint thorn]

I said I prefer intel so idk if it’s a go in but nvidia is great btw

[deep skiff]

so no amd?

[fossil hedge]

intel is good at certain tasks, in certain applications. but in the long run, amd X570, is going to have support from the chip manufacturer for at least the next line of cpu's from AND, not including the TR4 socket for threadripper. that means that you don't have to buy a whole new motherboard, wants it comes time to upgrade. secondly, if you don't like the price of X570, theres the B450 and X470 motherboards with USB bios flashback. that gives you the ability to flash the BIOS with another computer, without having to buy another CPU to make it work. It is true however that at this time, most of AMDS cores don't all overboost to there stated boost clock, but that will likely be fixed with the next BIOS update for ryzen 3rd gen. Intel did not notably drop there prices, there mostly banking on there new cores, which are bound to be interesting, other then the I9 which is literally the same chipset with better overclocking.

Amd, is at the moment the best choices for desktop computers, and are future proof unlike intel where there motherboard is replaced ever time. but don't get me wrong, if you look at CPU core speed which tends to matter a bit more then core count, intel is pulling ahead in some cases, I would not trust user benchmark, but it does show this point. at the moment, AMD is heavily banking on core count, although there speed is quite effective. if you can find a good motherboard, and a good intel CPU at a low price, go for it. if you like intel, its good in some applications, such as games, and that's pretty much it. the next gen threddripper will perform like a pro in AutoCAD and rendering for video editing. intel, is still lagging behind, and in place's where they do have that many cores, they lack the ability to back it up with a low price.

I would go with AMD, it is futer proof, and at a farily low cost for the price, the ryzen 5 3500X, is a very good chip indeed, and is priced like a I5, there is also the 5 3600, but that gets a slightly lower recommendation, its price to performance is not what I would call that great. so if your going low end, buy ryzen 3rd gen, 5 3500X. if you want to go mid end, the i7 is beat out in nearly everything by the 7 3600X, the 7 3600 is also not that great for the price, but still is a good option for a workstation build.

the ryzen 9 will definitely perform well as a workstation chip, and thats pretty much all you would ever buy it for, other then that its kind of overpowered for the modern AAA class title.

So I would give AMD, the big thumbs up.

[gloomy rock]

What about programs like my data base Java programs that are only optimized on single core performance?

[fossil hedge]

and yeah nvidia is still great.

that would be placed more on something like the 7 3600X, for the price its speed is effective, the 9 3950X is your best bet again, just because of the price, and the future proofing. but it is true that Intel favors core speed, not core count. the thing is, you shouldn't just look for core speed, if you did you would be stuck with something like a I3. Thats because, honestly is more complicated then just core speed, the speed is measured by the amount of times a second it can send a signal, which is pretty much shizer, because thats just counting how simple a signal is on the low end, and how complicated it is on the higher end, what you need to do, is look at signal core performance tests, the 7 3800x is at the top for singal thred perfromince at the momeint, the 9 3900x is right below it, and then it goes to the i9 9900kf proccessor.

thing is, AMD is going to be a lot cheaper for a higgher end build.

don't know if i'm that helpful, I could have just seid that I recommend amd.

[faint thorn]

If y’all can find an amd mobo and cpu. That can run modded ark(the biggest strain I plan on having) then I’ll try and

Amd*

[noble mist]

My first build ever wish me luck guys

[gloomy rock]

Goodluck

[edgy copper]

@noble mist are you copying me?

[noble mist]

Perhaps

[edgy copper]

we got the same case, I love it so far

I’m having trouble with the atxpwr connectors

[edgy copper]

Which of these do I connect the PSU CPU 4+4 pins ??

[little osprey]

What PSU?

[edgy copper]

These are EPS/ATX12V

Evga 750+

[little osprey]

4+4 in the right and you're g2g, don't need the left. https://puu.sh/Eg8Od/3f324b0fcc.png

[edgy copper]

The build might have to wait, I don’t like the x62 kraken since it doesn’t fit in the front slot of the case .-.

Thank you!

[little osprey]

If you want, and the PSU has another 8 pin CPU power EPS 12V, use that on the right, then one of the 4's on the left

[edgy copper]

I was so confused by that extra 2x2

How does that look? @little osprey

[little osprey]

Perfect, actually

[edgy copper]

Ou thank you, maybe I should’ve read the manual better. It’s confusing how it has 2 different pwr connectors

[little osprey]

EVGA has nice cables even on the G3, GQ etc. My seasonic prime ultra titanium 850W aren't braided like those on my G3/GQ, T2. But I think the 1000 prime ultra has them? idk

[edgy copper]

Do you know how to connect the HDD LED connectors?

I have 2x2pin power SW & HDD LED +-

Then I have two extra pwr led +- cables

[little osprey]

Mobo manual should have a diagram showing it well.

[edgy copper]

I still have the extra +- 2x1pin connectors

I’m guessing it’s the pwr button/soft off but it doesn’t tell me where to connect it

[latent bronze]

On modern motherboards it does tell you if you look hard enough

[little osprey]

Are both cables labeled CPU on the PSU end?

[gaunt plover]

Does anyone know any good ways I can diffuse the light from those led strips in the desk? I heard you can use wax paper but I was wondering if anyone knows any other ways.

[lime forge]

haha i wasnt actually sure if wax paper would work

but i thought it might

seems like it would, if you know what i mean

[little osprey]

thats badass

you'd probably want to put a layer between the wax paper also.. would be kind of awkward

[gaunt plover]

Mk. I’ll try a couple layers of wax paper. See where that goes

[restive rain]

So, I’m currently in the market for upgrading/building a new pc for gaming and a workstation. This the right spot to ask questions?

[little osprey]

Fine grit sandpaper over the lens works too, though permanent.

[latent bronze]

@restive rain You want a 3700X/3800X system

[restive rain]

@latent bronze I was looking at the 3900x but I will be using it for a lot of CADD programs also. So I’m assuming a 2080ti would be needed?

[little osprey]

3900x is a great choice, even a 3600 if you want to go budget. A Turing GPU may be useful depending on what kind of work you do. What programs do you plan to use?

[restive rain]

Revit is the main one and most of the autocad suite

[fair pollen]

What would be some goods tips for building a pc

[latent bronze]

the cost and your budget

[fair pollen]

I have made a pc part picker list il link it in #links-and-selfpromotion if you wanna see it

[latent bronze]

for builds it is supposed to be in this chat

[fair pollen]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/x3KmfH

It’s missing the gpu

But it will have a rtx 2060

[latent bronze]

decent system but don't get the A400

Also 120gb is not enough trust me you would want at least 240gb minimum

[fair pollen]

What would be a good sdd instead of that

[latent bronze]

At least something like this would be better https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zwL48d/intel-660p-512-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw512g8x1

[fair pollen]

ok thanks

[frail zealot]

can anyone help me with a new SSd I just got

please

I just recieved my SSD, installed it, it shows up on samsung magician, yet it doesnt show up in my PC and I cant store files on it. Typically I had to format HDD into Fat32 or NTFS but this gives me no option, please help

Do SSDs need to be formatted? If so, what format?
it does show up in macrium, but no where else

[sweet charm]

What would case do you guys think would be better?? Phanteks 400a vs fractal design meshify c

[coarse coral]

meshify c for airflow, but meshify c is hard to build in if you use large radiators/gpu

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q3jkvn

Is this easy to build in

[south stirrup]

Is this the best channel to ask for troubleshooting ideas on a new build, or should I go to the Computer Hardware ones?

[latent bronze]

maybe on the hardware depending on what hardware problem you are having

if it is a lot you could ask in the general chat as well

[south stirrup]

board/chip/memory won't POST

[latent bronze]

Well someone can help with that

i never had that issue yet so

[south stirrup]

Except that I've replaced everything, and I'm still getting the same error.

[latent bronze]

@noble jewel wanna help out with this one >_<

[lime forge]

@signal cosmos what headphones are those on your rift?

also do you like the rift s in general?

[signal cosmos]

Bionic

They are meant for psvr but fit perfect on the first s

[lime forge]

hm

[signal cosmos]

Having been a vr owner for 3 days and having no reference to judge against. It's the best vr ever lol

I want a valve index so bad lmao

[lime forge]

alright hold on i got a question

lemme go get a picture for reference

[deep skiff]

no

:v

[signal cosmos]

I never even tried a vr demo before it arrived.

Jumped in and have loved in there since except to sleep and family lol

[lime forge]

ok, this is the headset i have right now, it mounts to my head by literally clamping on. After about a half hour or so, i take it off and the back of my head is numb. is the rift s comfortable?

[signal cosmos]

Did a 3 hour stream today and a few days ago I unboxed and set it up live as well.

[lime forge]

nice

[signal cosmos]

Yes very. The halo carries most of the weight.

[noble jewel]

@south stirrup Hey, what is installed in the system rn?

[little osprey]

What headphones should I get for the rift s

I want the best headphones

[lime forge]

alright, and it doesnt feel like its clamping too hard to the point where it hurts?

[south stirrup]

@noble jewel nothing, I took it all apart. The last time I got the code it was all sitting on my desk. MB, CPU, RAM sitting on the static bag in front of me with the PSU sitting next to the board.

[signal cosmos]

No but I also like it snig AF

[lime forge]

alright, great

[signal cosmos]

You can adjust it then slide the eye mount forward or back. Personally I wrench it tight then smush the face plate in as far as I can

[lime forge]

the headband of my current headset doesnt distribute the part that clamps on very well, so it hurts after a bit

[little osprey]

What do u use

For bro

Br

Vr

I use rift s

[signal cosmos]

Oculus rift s

[lime forge]

asus windows mixed reality

[little osprey]

Never heard of that

[lime forge]

yep

most people havent

its the budget vr headset

it cost $200

[little osprey]

What’s the spec

[lime forge]

BUT

the screen is the best on the market (except for the valve index) and its the whole experience of vr for a fraction of the cost. full controller tracking, 6dof, and you dont have to set up sensors around the room

the tracking isnt the best, and the comfort is okay for short periods of play

you get what you pay for

its like a 95 degree fov

heres what it looks like

[noble jewel]

@south stirrup Is your motherboard mounted inside a case?

[lime forge]

oops, sorry for pushing ur chat up steve lol

[noble jewel]

[magic vigil]

Theoretically, what is better? I9-9900k or 3950x.

What will be better?*

[signal cosmos]

I have gotten ok at shooters in vr in 3 days though.. At least the ones in rec room. I'm usually 1-4 place in points or kills.

[south stirrup]

@noble jewel No, I hadn't gotten that far yet.

[deep skiff]

3950x

[magic vigil]

why 3950x

mind you this is for 8-4 core use

[deep skiff]

the 3900x is already almost on par with the 9900k in games, and it has more cores/threads, and higher clock speeds

and you could disable some cores/threads

hence the higher price tag

[magic vigil]

3900x is almost 8% worse in some games others 5%

[deep skiff]

and the 3900x is nearly 30% faster in productivity

and thats with a 2080 ti on 1080p, so it would be closer for normal users

[magic vigil]

99% gaming, 1440p

[deep skiff]

u never said that :l

[magic vigil]

2080ti but that doesnt really matter

sorry

so gaming in mind on 1440p with a 2080ti, 9900k/kf or 3950x

[noble jewel]

@south stirrup 2 sticks or 4 sticks of RAM?

[deep skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLwbhxckfqc watch this

[south stirrup]

2 sticks, but I'm only starting with a single one in. I looked through the docs, and I have the stick in the right slot for only having a single one.

@noble jewel

[noble jewel]

What board do you have and what's the error code?

[south stirrup]

AsRock B450M/AC AM4

Beep codes say bad CPU.

[noble jewel]

Check for any bent pins, if none attempt to test with another board if possible. if not, RMA 😕

[south stirrup]

Sorry, posted everything elsewhere. Synopsis. Bought all this a whle back. Wouldn't POST. I didn't hook up the speaker because I didn't know about beep codes. RMAd everything.

Board/memory came in before the label to ship back the CPU, so I tried the old CPU with the new board/memory. Got the Bad CPU beep codes.

Shipped the CPU back and got a new CPU. I'm getting the same "bad CPU" beep codes.

So I've replaced everything, but still get the same error.

[noble jewel]

what psu are you using?

[south stirrup]

brand new Rosewill 450

[noble jewel]

check your connections, and try to test the power supply when you get a chance

[south stirrup]

I tried a different PSU on my first setup and got the same issue. I haven't tried a new PSU on the new hardward.

[noble jewel]

CPU?

[south stirrup]

Ryzen 1600. Checked the specs on the MB, and that CPU is explicitly supported.

I've been doing this since 1996, and this happens the first time I try to teach my daughter how to build a PC.

[noble jewel]

it always happens when you least expect it. Been there 😕

I'd double check all power connections. It's rare to see a replacement set of parts also fail. It's not impossible, but highly unlikely

[severe oxide]

Btw that’s awesome, some day I wanna do the same thing

Teaching ur daughter how to build a pc that is

How old is she?

[south stirrup]

Thanks. It's pretty exciting for both of us. For her 12th birthday I gave her a budget and we went Newegg shopping.

[severe oxide]

That makes me smile so much. And also props to her, I don’t think I’ve ever met a 12 year old girl who would like that

[noble jewel]

Warms my heart, makes me wish my parents would have done something like that with me

[south stirrup]

and, replaced the PSU. Same issue

I guess I will wait on ASRock support to get back to me.

This is quite frustrating.

Whelp. that was quick. Turns out there are new things since I last did this. I just learned that there can be an HDMI port on the MB, but you only get video if you get a processor with a video card built in.

I didn't even know that was a thing.

[noble jewel]

Yup, gotta be careful with that. Intel CPUs will have a built-in video card that gives you the integrated graphics portion

Some AMD motherboards support the feature, but if the CPU does not, then you wouldn't get any video

[noble mist]

Done after a day

What you guys think?

[scarlet quarry]

Purdy

[maiden eagle]

@noble mist
Very nice night light.👍🏻

[balmy igloo]

@south stirrup First things first... did ya jump the cmos second Did you update the bios?! Sounds wierd but Asrock boards can be wonky and i loathe that you have to manually upgrade the bios from dos/// not to mention their bios just looks wonky and and aged... from their walkthroughs. But I had an asus board do the same thing the b350m... Honestly i'd use 550W instead of 450... 450 is bare minimum ... i tend to go with minimum 550 for basic amd builds Also check the pins in your power supply and the cord on the power supply could have gotten a bad cord to cpu. Had that happen once or twice in my 20 years of building. i hate to say this but don't buy the cheapest end of the board spectrum every single one i've delt with in the past 7 years of watching folks buy em come back for repair within a year or rma also I tend to stick with gigabyte cause they offer a three year warranty.

if you goy a voltage meter check the pins 😉

[south stirrup]

@balmy igloo Thanks for the long reply, but ASRock tech support helped me figure it out. It turns out that, despite my decades of experience, things can change in the PC-build world. I had no idea you could buy a board with video port on it that didn't actually have the chips for the video card on the board. The CPU I was running, the Ryzen 5 1600, does not have video on it. I've ordered a better CPU that does have video, and I expect things to work just fine once it arrives.

[gaunt zinc]

Proof that PC building doesn't have to break the bank. Check out #build-pics from @austere condor

[latent bronze]

Well there is still a lot of builds out there that can cost anywhere between 150$ to 700$ and still be able to play most games at high settings

If i was to build a system based off used parts i would use an i7 4790 with a GTX 1070 also 16gb or 32gb memory with a 500gb SSD and a 2TB HDD

The only thing that would be new is the CPU cooler the case and the PSU

There is always use for older parts still that hasn't really died out

[austere condor]

pretty dope $530 PC with near exact specs you just said @latent bronze

i7 4770k
Z87
32GB ram"
256 SSD
1TB HDD
GTX 1070

[latent bronze]

Don't like the case

[austere condor]

P300 aint known for its airflow, but its the case irecommend for new builders cause its SUPER easy to build in, and most of the things are already laid out and cable managed for you already

other case i tend to recommend for budget builds is the MX330

pretty solid case for the price

[chilly marsh]

as an owner of that case, id recommend it if you had a lower budget

[lime forge]

that pc case looks fantastic

[latent bronze]

Well if i was building a system for a friend or someone i know i would go for airflow over looks

Pretty much something like this https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-versa-h15-micro-atx-tower/p/N82E16811133347?Item=N82E16811133347

[little osprey]

i'm excited for my gskill trident z royals to arrive
same goes for my venturi hf-14 fans

[winged hollow]

can anyone tell me how good this is?
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor, 16GB DRAM, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Windows 10 64-bit

[sudden turret]

decent for mid gaming.

be great if that card was 8gb.

[winged hollow]

it’s only $630

[sudden turret]

toss in a 480gb ssd and you'd be rocking

[winged hollow]

how good is the deal for $630

[sudden turret]

look up each part... and tally the price.

[winged hollow]

ok. it’s a prebuilt so it’s inevitable going to cost a little more

[sudden turret]

you have a link?

[winged hollow]

i can grab one real quick

Dell Inspiron Gaming PC Desktop AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Processor, 16GB DRAM, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Card, Windows 10 64-bit, Blue LED, Model Number: i5676-A696Blu https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q3G3B67/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EFnFDbPBSNA2M

[sudden turret]

rEEeEEeEeEe amazon.

just read all the reviews, good and bad.,

you can always add in an ssd, and a bigger gpu, but if you're doing light gaming I suppose it's alright.

[winged hollow]

ok

found another one. it’s got a bit more and it’s about $100 more.
3.2 GHz AMD Ryzen 7 - 16GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580-1TB Hard Drive + 128GB Solid State Drive - Windows 10

[little osprey]

Hey I need help deciding on a cpu for video editing. Any suggestions? I’m stuck between intel or amd

[little osprey]

Budget? 3600 or 3900x are common picks.

[next tangle]

Guys guys, look at my new pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PkD6nH\

[latent bronze]

page not found

[next tangle]

oh

😦

wait it works for me though

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KrayyonHD/saved/syXq3C

there

[quaint terrace]

Private 🙄

[next tangle]

oof

hold on

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KrayyonHD/saved/syXq3C

yeeeeeeeees

there

my new pc

https://tenor.com/view/oyeah-lisa-simpsons-gif-9948393

wow i've been watching anime for 3 hours

@winged hollow Why don't you just build it yourself?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/thKybX you can get that for a similar price as the 3.2 GHz AMD Ryzen 7 - 16GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580-1TB Hard Drive + 128GB Solid State Drive - Windows 10 one, and it would be faster

https://www.amazon.com/2018-HP-Gaming-Desktop-7/dp/B07JHCH9TQ/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=hp+pavillion+690&qid=1568498954&s=electronics&sr=1-7 if you're talking about that

The one I linked (the one if you build it yourself) is cheaper and faster.

If you're going with 850$

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m7pq6s

Then go with that, it'll be way better than that prebuilt or as a matter in fact, way better than any prebuilt for 850$

You will have to ask AMD for an upgrade CPU and then upgrade your bios

Other than that, you're set.

https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Wireless-Airflow-Adjustable-Radiators/dp/B07DHM6SW9/ref=sxin_1_ac_d_rm?ac_md=1-1-cmdiIGZhbnM%3D-ac_d_rm&keywords=uphere&pd_rd_i=B07DHM6SW9&pd_rd_r=c50ad57c-8ab6-4095-8b07-4dbf933f8c77&pd_rd_w=3tQAi&pd_rd_wg=YoE9p&pf_rd_p=d29bc9bc-49e2-46b8-bc05-387917c341ec&pf_rd_r=7ZNBB6R6Z04FRZ25PS86&qid=1568499144&s=electronics you can also add that for better airflow

And for aesthetics

@winged hollow I know that's a lot of info but yeah 🙂

[little osprey]

[next tangle]

@little osprey what is it?

[latent bronze]

Why a dual xeon system?

Also i highly doubt you have 100,000$ to spend

[lime forge]

holy crap a tornado just hit my area

[latent bronze]

Did you have a fun ride?

[deep skiff]

@lime forge u better not die

[winged hollow]

@next tangle thanks but i have no clue how to build a computer so i think i might stick to a prebuilt cause i really don’t want to screw something up

[latent bronze]

@winged hollow Building a computer is very simple and there are video's of 5 year old's building them

[winged hollow]

fair enough. i think im smarter than a 5 year old

i'll look into it

[latent bronze]

@winged hollow What do you plan on doing with your system anyways?

[winged hollow]

gaming and once i get good internet streaming

[latent bronze]

at 1080p or a higher res

[winged hollow]

1080

[latent bronze]

@winged hollow here you go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDKybX

This is one with a AIO as well https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbrznH

[winged hollow]

that second one looks really good

[latent bronze]

Well the second one i only added the AIO

Overall if you plan on overclocking you can just use the non X model

[winged hollow]

ture

[latent bronze]

and also you would have a 1660 Ti not a 1660

[winged hollow]

true*

they both have 1660 ti

[latent bronze]

Pretty much what i did was find a more budget motherboard with heatsinks for the VRM a CPU that would perform the same as the X model when overclocked for less and a better GPU

[pulsar garnet]

It's coming together...

[latent bronze]

Also i was talking about towards Krayola's build

[winged hollow]

yeah

[pulsar garnet]

Is krayola still swapping parts around

[winged hollow]

but i'll look at them and once i get the money i'll look into it further

[pulsar garnet]

In ever possible combination

Lol

[latent bronze]

@pulsar garnet he did a random 100,000$ build list which has 2 xeon processors

[pulsar garnet]

But why?

[latent bronze]

No idea

@pulsar garnet This is what he was suggesting for thurso https://pcpartpicker.com/list/thKybX

i looked at the case alone and was like what the heck

[pulsar garnet]

In still waiting for my i9-9900K from Robey, Z390 Xtreme, Lian Li PC-O11 AIR, and 6x LL120 fans.

Yeah just don't listen to krayon

[latent bronze]

Here is the case and it looks like it has almost no airflow for those parts https://www.newegg.com/white-darkflash-dlm-22-micro-atx-mini-itx/p/2AM-008X-00009

[pulsar garnet]

Yeah looks kinda bricky

[latent bronze]

I like cases that looks almost like that but for the image saying you can install 2 fans in the front makes me wonder where the air is coming from

at least with my case i did some research on it first

[pulsar garnet]

I like really square cases but usually they don't come with good airflow :/

I love the NZXT cases designs

[latent bronze]

Did you see the one i suggested?

[pulsar garnet]

I did not

[latent bronze]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147273

This would have good airflow

You would have 2 fans in the front 1 in the rear and the AIO on the top

@pulsar garnet Here is a prebuilt he suggested which i admit the case is nice but it doesn't tell you which Ryzen 7 is in it https://www.amazon.com/2018-HP-Gaming-Desktop-7/dp/B07JHCH9TQ

[pulsar garnet]

That looks cool

CPU: "AMD Ryzen 7"

Yeah that's stupid.

I hate the obscure advertising of specs on prebuilts

[deep skiff]

gpu: something with vram

[pulsar garnet]

Probably a 1700X

[latent bronze]

i looked at the reviews someone said 2700

But also 820$ for that with no keyboard/mouse and no monitor that is too much money

[next tangle]

@winged hollow Neither do I, there are tons of tutorials out there and the parts I listed will give you a warranty, nothing to worry about

@winged hollow Imo, I'd go with mine since it's faster than Ecks'

[latent bronze]

LOL

[next tangle]

@latent bronze I listed a 1660 ti

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m7pq6s see

[latent bronze]

for 1080p gaming and streaming it is fast but overkill

[next tangle]

But similar price

And faster

[latent bronze]

You do know not every motherboard has the updated bios yet

[next tangle]

I know

He can update it himself

[latent bronze]

Also the case you picked is horrible

[next tangle]

If he doesn't want to, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jrznHhe can get that

Oh well I can change that hold up

[deep skiff]

doesnt show the page again

[next tangle]

weird.

why does it keep doing that?

Well I switched the 3600 to a 2700

Since he doesn

I mean

Since he might not want to update the bios

[latent bronze]

Also for someone that kept asking for builds for himself shouldn't really be suggesting builds to others just saying

[next tangle]

I can do higher budget builds

But not a upgrade

And I'm asking for an upgrade not a build.

[latent bronze]

an upgrade is the most simplest thing ever

[next tangle]

Not really

When I try to be frugal it isn't.

Simplest thing ever is getting 1 pc part.

[latent bronze]

Also when i suggest parts i have pretty much used it in builds i have actually made in person

[next tangle]

Oh thanks for editing it, couldn't understand it

😅

But there are also some times when there are better parts for the similar price

[latent bronze]

Reviews are ok but experiencing something first hand is better

[next tangle]

Well that's why he has a warranty

If he doesn't like it, he can return it

[latent bronze]

All the parts i also suggested has warranties there is nothing different

[next tangle]

Except the performance

Better storage

Better CPU

[latent bronze]

😆

[next tangle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N3YVdX

Also is that case better?

[latent bronze]

Just give it up ok

[next tangle]

no c;

You could even add a CPU cooler to the one I listed and it would be a similar price.

Mine has the similar amount of storage but it's faster

[latent bronze]

Dude the thing is when most people here has suggested builds for other people they have experienced it first hand to know what to build for said person

[next tangle]

I've helped people build theirs

[latent bronze]

some are even using the parts themselves

[next tangle]

My parents work with some business named BrainWave PC's

I know I said I haven't build a PC before

Because I haven't done it fully myself

I learned all this PC stuff from them, this server, friends and some other servers

Quick question, why did the 2TB Seagate Barracuda shoot up in price for a while?

[latent bronze]

It hardly budged

[next tangle]

Oh

[latent bronze]

You do also know Zovyra also suggested not to listen to your builds

[next tangle]

How come?

[latent bronze]

You haven't really built a system and you also said it yourself

[next tangle]

And wow @pulsar garnet Nice pic

I like that monitor

Yes but I've helped

Like I said, I said that since I didn't do it fully myself

I've helped putting the motherboard, cpu, cooler and GPU together

Not the PSU, case, fans and other parts

[rough loom]

Theres small little things that can really derail a build if your not careful

[next tangle]

Who're you talking to? @rough loom

[rough loom]

Im saying in general. and from build experience

[little osprey]

Why the 2700 vs 3600?

[next tangle]

Oh

@little osprey Oh I listed that as a replacement if he doesn't want to upgrade the Bios

My previous lists had a 3600

[pulsar garnet]

High budget build = pick highest price parts that don't give you a red notification on pcpartpicker

To krayola

[next tangle]

c;

[little osprey]

Lol, I think my old daily - which is about to be my new daily - for now, had like 4 of those warnings

[latent bronze]

I am not trying to be mean but don't just throw random parts thinking it would work

[next tangle]

If he went with the 3600 it would be good

I just had a little fun and put the xeon and stuff

Because my friend had a competition to see who can put together the most expensive build since we were bored

[little osprey]

Nvm, just 1 red. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/UCAUCA/saved/B6njpg

[latent bronze]

besides that the guy said he is only gaming in 1080p and would like to stream in that as well

[next tangle]

Yes but

For the similar price, he can get something better

[little osprey]

Ya, if people have to question whether or not a pcpp link is a joke or not...

[pulsar garnet]

Lol

[next tangle]

lmao just read that

But I'd still go with the list I created

[pulsar garnet]

Shhh

[next tangle]

yyyy

[latent bronze]

You don't even know if the parts will play out well together

[next tangle]

What do you mean?

[latent bronze]

You've never experienced them

[next tangle]

So?

[latent bronze]

This is why i said you're tossing random parts in the build

[next tangle]

No, I searched up on google the performances of each ones

Seen what trusted brands are

[little osprey]

This is a large part of why I really enjoy testing stuff out for people.

[next tangle]

If it's the bang for your buck

And attempting to stay frugal with it

[little osprey]

TBH, those last 4 statements are a great mentality

[pulsar garnet]

Buy a used i5-4570k and r9 390 for 1080p

[latent bronze]

If i have never built anything in my life i would only be suggesting prebuilts

[next tangle]

Thanks @little osprey

@latent bronze You should only do that if you don't know what a PC even is.

[pulsar garnet]

:(

[next tangle]

@pulsar garnet it ok zovy

[latent bronze]

@next tangle You do know i have built over 100 systems right

and i mean actually touch them not google them

[next tangle]

No I don't since you are a person I met online

Well how'd you start off before building your first system?

[little osprey]

And I'll encourage you to pursue this hobby and further develop the processes by which you evalutate performance metrics, value, relevance to the user's use case etc.

[pulsar garnet]

Krayola, just shhh

[next tangle]

Googling and researching.

@little osprey I want a double major in college, Electrical Engineering and Bio Medicine

[little osprey]

Haha 100? Really? What are your current PC's?

[next tangle]

Because I'm interested in working for AMD or NVIDIA or something