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deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:15 PM

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I'm planning on upgrading my system to accommodate for the 3950x

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So I figure a PCIe4.0 m.2 might be cool

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I am waiting for this to come out first before i get any M.2

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deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Wtf is that

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Water cooling heatsinks for M.2's

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Wow

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:16 PM

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but every 6 months you have to change the water

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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That seems... Excessive

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Oh, that's pretty rough

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I wouldn't do that for mine

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Well most M.2's when using it on a load can get as hot as 70c

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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M.2 doesn't need external coolig if you have good case ventilation

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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The farthest I would ever go for cooling would be to enclose my GPU

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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with that they claim you would get at least a minimum of 45c on load

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:18 PM

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And I already feel liquid cooling the GPU is extra

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:18 PM

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There is a liquid cooling solution i wanted to do with my GPU

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I've been running air cooling on my CPU for the last ten years and it is still going strong. Granted it doesn't get to 70c but it gets warm and it has yet to have a problem.

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Yes, my rig is almost ten years old.

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And it's only now starting to struggle.

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:19 PM

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That's what I'm trying to do with my computer now

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Upgrade it to bleeding edge this year, then never touch it

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Maybe change the case every few years

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:20 PM

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I try to do that about every ten years. Not quite bleeding edge but upper mid range parts.

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With some minor upgrades eery 3 years or so

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@deft python I was thinking of getting this https://www.newegg.com/p/37B-003S-00004

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Question, what's yall's take on the Z390 series of motherboards?

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Not worth is since LGA 1200 might be coming soon

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:21 PM

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"might"?

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:21 PM

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There is already talk about Comet Lake and the LGA 1200 boards

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:21 PM

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You going for a white build, @latent bronze ?

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:22 PM

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This is my system

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deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I know someone with a white build, struggles with fans and reservoir fittings

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Nice

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Is that a mid tower?

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:22 PM

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yes

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Link?

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:23 PM

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I wish my system glows like that. My LL 140s aren't lighting up properly

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:23 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147298

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it is still in stock in Canada Newegg 😛

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:23 PM

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RGB settings aren't synching properly, and I'm pretty sure the hardware works

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:24 PM

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my RGB lights are spinning so it is hard to get a photo in sync

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Man that's literally just a box huh lol

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Nothing else

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:24 PM

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the back of that case is the exhaust vents and the storage

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if you look at the images the top left in the back is where you can mount a 3.5" and 2.5" drive

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also it does come with those 4 RGB fans

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the design for the front as well is not an image it is actual grooves

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Mine is https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-obsidian-series-500d-rgb-se-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139126?Description=obsidian series 200&cm_re=obsidian_series_200-_-11-139-126-_-Product

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:26 PM

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It is not bad but i don't like having tempered glass in the front

deft python Aug 24, 2019, 7:27 PM

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That's my concern with it too

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But I've learned to live with it

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:27 PM

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besides having just the 4 fans i am getting better cooling than my old case that was using 6 fans

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:27 PM

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It's all about flow man

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:27 PM

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my side is tempered glass but i like the way it is

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Oh the one i was using before has great airflow but more if your system is not using parts that doesn't get hot too quick

mellow rover Aug 24, 2019, 7:28 PM

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My case is so old it still uses perforated aluminum for the sidewall so I actually have an exhaust fan on the side of the tower mounted to that wall.

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And I'm using a blue neon tube instead of RGB so that tells you how long it's been

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 7:29 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853064 this is my old case

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oh ya and my case came with a cleaning cloth for the glass lol

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The thing is there are cases that can cost a lot less and look more plain looking that can do so much better

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@deft python The one thing i learned from a lot of video's is that looks are not always everything cause while yes i do like the look of the case i bought it could maybe give a lot better cooling than your 200$+ case and there are video's out there where people would compare something that is 60$ to something that is 200$ and the 60$ is only like 1c to 3c more in temps

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So if you spend like 150$ to 200$ for a case just to get 3c less that is not worth it in my book

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:10 PM

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My system died... Mobo and. CPU were fried... Wondering if this is a decent budget setup to get back running

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I had an i7-6700K and a ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Extreme before.... With a block CPU cooler.

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What died? The build as pictured is decent for general use gaming but if you're open to suggestions I'd be happy to help.

coarse coral Aug 24, 2019, 11:12 PM

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@little osprey look into b450 board and ryzen 3600, also the stock cooler works fine

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:13 PM

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My MOBO and CPU shorted out

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I mean i already ordered this stuff... But I can cancel. I have under 350 to spend

coarse coral Aug 24, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I'm not on desktop rgith now so @little osprey halp

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Im on mobile too. But if im gonna cancel i need to do so soon..

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Ya, I would recommend cancelling those parts.

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A 6700k and M8E is a pretty high end setup, but a Ryzen 3600 and some x570 that I'll recommend should be a good fit given budget

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Okay I cancelled

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I need a cooler tho too

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CoolerMaster EVO212 is too bulky and ugly and i dont havd the AM4 adapter

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The one i have still i mean

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Do you have a list of your previous build on hand? If not, what RAM , GPU, PSU?

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Id prefer liquid cooled AIO but budget I understand

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Yes

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AIO vs high end air cooler is a personal preference IMO.

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I have a EVGA GeForce GTX 980ti FTW Edition, Corsair 750D case, Corsair RM750x PSU and 2400MHz Corsair LPX DDR4 RAM, two EVO 850 SSDs and 1 WD Black HD

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Thats everything I have sitting here in the case waiting for my MOBO and CPU

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Recycling the ram will be fine for a 3600+new mobo, I use this search to see what's currently on discount for 3600+ X https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos?Item=19-113-569&SubCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=10&page=1

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$60-$120 for a new 2x8 DDR4 kit in the future would be a nice upgrade , but not critical to gaming.

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A 3600 is gonna be 200 alone

meager sleet Aug 24, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Hey all! I have a question about a 3d animation computer build im doing!

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I'm wondering if this case, the Node 202, can support these assets

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-node-202-mini-itx/p/N82E16811352058?Description=node 202&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product

This is the case I'm asking about specifically, I'm wondering if all these parts will fit into it. Do you all know?

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8GHz 6-Core Processor

CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition AM4
Motherboard ASUS Prime X570-P ATX AM4

Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 2060 6GB - MSI Gaming

Memory (RAM) 16GB (2 x 8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 CL16

PCIe-SSD Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB M.2 Solid State Drive

Power Supply Corsair CX Series CX550 550W ATX 2.4

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:26 PM

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@little osprey Ya, you're looking for a mobo + 3600 for <$350 right?

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Yeah

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@little osprey

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This is the best future-proof option IMO, that board can handle a 3900x/3950x.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3930517
It's over-budget, as asrock board combo may be a better fit, I'll continue looking

coarse coral Aug 24, 2019, 11:32 PM

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OOS

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Im not looking to future proof. Im looking to manage for a few months or so until i can upgrade further. I just went with a 2600 and an MSI Gaming Plus B450M MOBO will just use the cooler that comes with the chip

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I mainly recommend the 3600 vs 2600x, both stock coolers are decent.

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There are usually great x570+3600 combo deals with $30+ discounts, unfortunately I can't find anything great today.

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With the 2600 Ryzen 5 will do me just fine

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All this is is trying to replace my broken system. Im not trying to get the best machine out there. I mean realistically I had like 300 bux lol my last mobo shorted unexpectedly

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It will, also the b450m gaming plus is a good pick for a 3600 as well, I didn't realize that was what was in the amazon order.

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So this is an upgrade from what i got

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I thought i got the B450M but I got the X470

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Or upgrade from what i had

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Both are fine for any 2xxx and as well as a 3600 - or higher if needed

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Coming from an i7 6700k M8E setup to this... Is an upgrade still in my eyes

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I couldnt get that system to run stable

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Haha sorry if I over complicated things a bit. I mainly wanted to advocate for 3600 vs 2600x, but if you just want something temporary, it's not bad.

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6700k or similar vs 3600 for gaming is a hot debate, what games do you play

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Its fine. Trust me I know the 3600 is a way better option. But with my budget.... This is the best for my money

deep skiff Aug 24, 2019, 11:49 PM

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what budget?

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:49 PM

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I play mainly GTA, PUBG, Avorion, Space Engineers

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300 realistically

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Some ARK

deep skiff Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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for which parts?

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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MOBO and CPU

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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PUBG you would want the 3600 instead

deep skiff Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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ic

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Let me know if you're interested in troubleshooting the 6700k M8E stuff some time

deep skiff Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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live near a microcenter?

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Oh ive troubleshooted it all

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I daily'd a 7700k for a long time, played pubg etc 6700k is very similar

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Its stuck i cant get it to boot at all

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Im not trying to play on high settings either... Im not a HUGE gamer.

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This is a budget system for me to upgrade along the way

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And it came with a $650 GPU alone

latent bronze Aug 24, 2019, 11:52 PM

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@little osprey language

little osprey Aug 24, 2019, 11:52 PM

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You got the 6700k+m8E for that?

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Sorry

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Yeah

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I traded that laptop for the 6700k and the m8e

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Ah ya, no worries - general rule is to just keep it PG-13

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That's an amazing deal

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But like ive said.... Ive had crashing issues with it since i traded

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Then last week it crashed and wouldnt come back. Ive replaced all the RAM and the PSU

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So with this ill have a completely new system

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Makes sense, ya

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Yeah.

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I appreciate your advice tho

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Haha, I get a little too invested in min/max'ing build options for other.
The more I know about their preferences / use cases, the easier it is to give a recommendation.
The 3600 is just an amazing chip for $200.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 12:08 AM

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@little osprey If you feel like swearing you can say something like holy cow

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Im an adult. Im sorry your virgin ears cant handle adult language. I apologized.

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But frankly, ill say what i want and if profanity slips im sorry. Kick me.

coarse coral Aug 25, 2019, 12:29 AM

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it happens.

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just delete or edit it

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squirtle

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 12:30 AM

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We're all adults here but there is rules here and i tend to follow it

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Well besides zack that i know of so far

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 1:52 AM

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woah i was mentioned

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im super late lol

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 2:05 AM

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@sleek mist did you finish your build??

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:11 AM

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can someone help me out picking a Ryzen 3000 mobo?

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:12 AM

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what do you need

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as in, do you need wifi, a certain amount of sata ports

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:12 AM

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the b450 tomahawk needs the bios update and tho it looks pretty simple ive seen lots of ppl say it didnt work for them and i dokt know too much about computers so idk if i wanna take that risk

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and idk when the Max is coming out

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:12 AM

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no clue lol

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i dont keep eyes on rumors and new products like that

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i shouldnt be techie lol

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i do research after they come out

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Which Ryzen 3000?

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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3600

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dw zach thanks anyway

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:13 AM

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oh i can still help lol

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but pretty much any x570 motherboard is good

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i have heard an ASUS TUF board caught fire and the MSI boards have bios issues tho

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so maybe a gigabyte board?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Well you heard one board caught on fire

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and without video proof of what the person was doing you have no idea how it happened

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:15 AM

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im currently thinking of just waiting on the max bc ive heard the tomahawk is very solid, just doesn’t have the bios

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:15 AM

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@olive sundial Go for the ASRock Steel Legend

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:16 AM

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the x570?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:16 AM

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ASRock right now is one of the best companies out there and yes they have for the X570

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Why steel legend vs the TUF or Aorus elite?
edit: For a 3600 you don't need the VRM on the elite, can go cheaper

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:17 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157885

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ASRock is very reliable and almost no issues with it

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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good for a white themed build

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but i will never buy asrock

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personally

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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🤔

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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because i am guess you had a single bad experience?

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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u also will never buy amd

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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ive never owned a desktop so no

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i just dont like the brand that much

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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thats ghey then

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:18 AM

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but whateverrrr

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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i dont like nvidia but i have a 1070ti

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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also id totally buy amd the intel shill thing is just a joke

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i want a 3700x

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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@latent bronze Which asrock boards have you used?

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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i cant say the same about theo tho 👀

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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ill probably go a x570 or wait on max see if the max is cheaper than 570s

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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yall get on my level i have intel, amd, and nvidia in my build

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 AM

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I have used a few older one's pretty much during my Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad and i core series

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days

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never had issues with ASRock once but i have had some issues with MSI and Gigabyte

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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thanks to all of u who helped me out

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:20 AM

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ayy somebody else had a core 2 duo

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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I had an E8400, still have it

pulsar garnet Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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I have Intel CPU and SSD

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Nachos i still have my Pentium III machine

pulsar garnet Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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AMD GPU

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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im almost done with my first ever pc just need my mobo and and gpu

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Core 2 quads are really cool

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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and yes it still works

woeful ocean Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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lol well my first gaming rig was an actula 486 dx2 66 so....yeah been through a few of them

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:21 AM

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C2Q i went for the Q8400

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I didn't want to be like everyone else i knew going for the Q6600

woeful ocean Aug 25, 2019, 2:22 AM

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heh heh

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Chrome my first "gaming" PC was a Tandy

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:22 AM

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i have a 2600x, 1070ti, and 660p

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and had a 750 ti and core 2 duo

woeful ocean Aug 25, 2019, 2:22 AM

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TRS 80 or 1000

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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do u guys suggest i go with like a sub $300 gpu like a 1660 or 580 or should i save a lil more and get a 5700

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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5700 all the way

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:23 AM

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I had to use this format to play games because most Tandy machines didn't have hard drive https://360view.hum3d.com/zoom/Tools/Floppy_Disk_8_inch_1000_0001.jpg

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All games loaded using DOS commands

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Were people bandwagon-ey over the q6600?

woeful ocean Aug 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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yeah been there had an atari 800 that i hadd the add ondrive was ammusing.

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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@little osprey that what?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:24 AM

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@olive sundial a RX 580 you can buy for like 150$ now

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used but still works

woeful ocean Aug 25, 2019, 2:25 AM

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580 not a bad card at all

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:25 AM

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i was thinking going a lil cheaper then upgrading in the future to a really nice card

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Also i am referring to the 8gb model as well

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:26 AM

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i was thinking waiting a year or 2 for ray tracing it looks so nice

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:26 AM

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an RX 580 you can still play most games on very high to ultra settings depending on the game

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AMD is making hybrid ray tracing

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:26 AM

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@olive sundial do you live near a microcenter?

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:26 AM

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no 😓 i wish i could just get my b450 flashed there

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:27 AM

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yeah i was gonna say that

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:27 AM

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You can contact AMD to send you an update processor so you can update the bios

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:27 AM

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they also have the mobo deals 😭 wish mine wasnt 3 hours away

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:27 AM

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What board?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:27 AM

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just you have to send it back after you flash it

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:28 AM

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is it easier if u do it with a cpu? like 100% guaranteed to work?

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cuz the flashbutton doesnt seem that hard really just heard alot of ppl say it doesnt work for them

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:28 AM

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You need a CPU in the board to update the bios

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:28 AM

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are you talking about the usb flash @olive sundial ?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Unreliability in this case will come from the user

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:29 AM

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yea with the usb flash it seems easy but ppl have said its uncertain if actually work idk

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Think of this ok without a brain the body can not start so if the motherboard doesn't have the CPU it wont really start

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:29 AM

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"bios flashback" just means the board can be updated with no cpu

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:29 AM

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yea exactly

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u just put the psu then download the currenr bios on a usb and plug it in and hit the button

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:30 AM

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I would go the safe route contact AMD for a CPU to update the bios and that is it

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:30 AM

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I'd think flashback would be more reliable than the traditional update methods

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:30 AM

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only some boards have usb flash tho

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:30 AM

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https://i.redd.it/58am663beh931.png

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:30 AM

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the tomahawk has it

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:31 AM

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https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:31 AM

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ahh yes that good old vrm list

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:31 AM

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what is that

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:31 AM

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I love/hate tier lists including that one but I posted it because the right-most column shows bios flashback capability

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 2:31 AM

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it shows you which are the best boards for certain cpu's

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:34 AM

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so yea the tomahawk would be perfect just dont know about the bios update
id go with a x570 but im tryna spend about $150 the tomahawk at $110 is perfect

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:35 AM

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If you like asrock and also want/need itx https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3931180

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:36 AM

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The reason for the ASRock i was showing as well is excellent cooling for the M.2 drives

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most of the top tier 200$ and up boards tends to have that

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:37 AM

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But ya, the tomahawk is definitely one of the crowd favorites for the 3600, not sure when the MAX boards come out

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:37 AM

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mainly has a air chamber casing around the M.2 while a fan blows cold air inside to cool them

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Have you had m.2 thermal throttling issues before?

olive sundial Aug 25, 2019, 2:38 AM

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apparently the max is out literally everywhere except the us and there’s no release date

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:39 AM

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When used on load and this is a lot of people that has talked about it on multiple forms stating that it gets as high as 70c

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so really this is why there are heatsinks and why Team Group made a water cool heatsink solution

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And just in case they did show them off in like June

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little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Which m.2 drive? I don't disagree, it's more of a drive/use case thing than a blanket rule that m.2's usually need coolers.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Most that people were talking about were the Samsung NVMe's

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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For example 960 evo's when used for writing 30GB in one sitting at max sequential speed.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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The main one's that was talked about was Samsung, Corsair and Curcial

woeful ocean Aug 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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i had an adata for a week and it suddenly stopped botting it was techinclaly faster than what i replaced it with but the 970 evo has not even blinked since i installed it.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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I know other companies like Team and WD can get very hot as well which is they there are these solutions to cool them down

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There are some here that has heatsinks applies on them already and some of the companies i haven't heard of but i would be willing to try them out https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693 601193224&srchInDesc=heatsink&Order=PRICE

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 2:49 AM

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@sweet charm yeah this is the finished one, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKtpxG

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Do I need to upgrade the power supply

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Ya, you can get m.2 22.80 heat sinks for $5 each or something,
Anyway, I meant to say that one probably shouldn't prioritize m.2 cooling over at least a few other features for motherboard choice.

hazy seal Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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650+ is always recommended... a 750w is even better

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 2:54 AM

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The 750 P2 has an annoying fan curve profile but is otherwise a good PSU.

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 2:55 AM

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What should i change to then

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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There is a lot of other features the board can do i am just pointing one of the good benefits to that

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@little osprey I am also willing to try this one out https://www.newegg.com/plextor-m9pe-256gb/p/N82E16820249109

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The specs are nice and it does have an included heatsink in it and would give my opinion when using it

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Seems a bit pricey for what it is. What's your intended use?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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OS only

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and besides how is 40$ pricy for a 256gb NVMe?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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512GB 660p for $60
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-512gb/p/N82E16820167460?Description=660p&cm_re=660p-_-20-167-460-_-Product

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You don't think you'll need more than 256 for OS?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I am using a 240gb 2.5" SSD right now for my OS and i still have about 160gb free

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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i have a 256gb ssd in my laptop, and i have a ton of stuff on it

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I also have a 1tb SSD for my games as well

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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I don't use much space for my OS drive either, but it's more cost effective to get a larger drive and put some/all games on it anyway.

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Sure, there are use cases where it's better to split up programs/files for better I/O and bandwidth.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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If i put a game i am only going to put Division 2

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Also as much as i like Intel i am not mixing it in my AMD system

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Plenty of other options. HP ex 920, spg 8200, wd black, inland NVME drives, anything samsung etc

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Hello

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 3:42 AM

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hi

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 3:56 AM

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https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/MyWishlistDetail?ID=6721038

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:57 AM

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Use pcpartpicker instead

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 3:57 AM

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id go for the 3700x

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instead of the 3800x

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cheaper without sacrificing much performance

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 3:58 AM

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okay

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 3:58 AM

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and also i would get windows off of ebay but you didnt hear that from me 😉

turbid walrus Aug 25, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Hey

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I dont want to be that man

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:58 AM

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It asks me to log in when i clicked on it which i don't have a US account

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 3:59 AM

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rip

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 3:59 AM

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https://secure.newegg.ca/Wishlist/MyWishlistDetail?ID=6721038

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try that

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 3:59 AM

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@turbid walrus don't be that man then?

turbid walrus Aug 25, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I mean im not being that man

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 3:59 AM

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as for the power supply, 80+ gold is fine but thats a good price for whats you have on that list

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:00 AM

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GPU i would go for something like the EVGA

turbid walrus Aug 25, 2019, 4:00 AM

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What gpu?

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 4:00 AM

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asus is a good brand

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:01 AM

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yes but for Nvidia cards i learned that EVGA tends to be better

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 4:01 AM

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thynking

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asus is still great

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but ok

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evga is good too

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Look at reviews / the community consensus on a model specific basis

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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@sullen briar replace the monitor as well since you wont get FreeSync

balmy canopy Aug 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Temps, noise, size, reliability, and looks (subjective) are my main points imo

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Asus, EVGA, Corsair, even seasonic all make both great and notoriously bad products.

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I was actually gonna go for the RTX 2070, but lots of the comments were talking about how it sucked after 4 months or so because of artifacts and space invaders etc

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:03 AM

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i have the exact monitor he picked which only has HDMI and DVI

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Alright, so I want a monitor with free sync

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Well that is what you picked

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or did you just picked one that was cheap on cost?

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:03 AM

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I didn't think that the monitor mattered as much

balmy canopy Aug 25, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Get a g sync compatible monitor if you want to save

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Here let me ask what are the things you plan on doing with your system

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I plan on using it for projects involving solidworks and such. I also want to run MHW so it's breathtakingly beautiful.

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without sacrificing framerate

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:05 AM

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3700 then

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well 3700 or 3700X

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:06 AM

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The gpu right

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:06 AM

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the CPU

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:06 AM

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er my bad yeah

balmy canopy Aug 25, 2019, 4:06 AM

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It’s 3700X or 3800X

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Do you intend to stream?

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:06 AM

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No streaming

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:07 AM

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He does intend on doing projects so using the 3700X would be the better option

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:07 AM

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what's the performance difference between 3.8k X verses the 3.7k X?

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Not much?

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:08 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tcbnH

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KrayyonHD/saved/ZvjxGX

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:08 AM

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It's <5% or something. 3700x is the way to go.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:08 AM

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The 2nd one is my PC

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:08 AM

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oo alright thanks

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:08 AM

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The first 1 is the upgrade I'll be getting for 500$

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@little osprey Would that upgrade be good?

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And do I need a better PSU?

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:12 AM

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depends on what you're upgrading

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:12 AM

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No, I don't think it would be a good upgrade.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:12 AM

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@sullen briar You won't really notice a difference between the 2

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:12 AM

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@little osprey Would I need a higher wattage PSU?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:13 AM

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just in case you didn't know

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:13 AM

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No, and this sounds familiar. If you didn't like my previous recommendations, you won't like my subsequent ones.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Me? @latent bronze

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@little osprey Oh I don't remember your previous ones, could you repeat them?

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Sorry 😄

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:14 AM

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When do you plan to buy/build/upgrade?

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Like next month

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If it's under 500$ then yeah

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Like next month

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Have you bought anything already?

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:14 AM

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No

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I will probably get the motherboard first

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:15 AM

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just a little warning when buying a GPU like that off ebay is to read everything because sometimes they have in small text if it was a mining card or not

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Yup, got it! @latent bronze 😄

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Also mining cards uses a mining bios as well

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:15 AM

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What is the difference?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:16 AM

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you lose performance when gaming

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:16 AM

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So - I'd recommend recycling the 212 evo, case, and 1TB drive. Then sell everything and buy a Ryzen 3600 build.

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If someone is selling a card with a flashed BIOS they need to make that abundantly clear on the ebay listing.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:17 AM

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@little osprey Hold on lemme post a picture

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📎 20190824_211739.jpg

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That's my CPU cooler, I don't know if it's that one I listed, I just guessed

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:18 AM

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That is totally different from what you listed

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Yeah I had no idea 😅

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:19 AM

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It's irrelevant since the 3600 comes with a cooler.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:19 AM

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How much do you think I could sell my whole system for?

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We got it for 600$ 😅

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Or maybe like 550$

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:20 AM

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was it prebuilt

still roostBOT Aug 25, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Squeeze#2229 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:20 AM

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yes

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😦

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cyberpowerpc

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:20 AM

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What that an image with some naughty words in it?

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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no.

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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What's a good brand to keep an eye out for monitors?

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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it was a sentence with a bad word

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poor @next tangle

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you could prob sell it for 500 since its used

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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@sullen briar #old-monitors-and-tv

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Same with monitors, don't stick to brand loyalty

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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@chilly marsh yes very true 😦

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Okay

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Okay 500$.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I am loyal to LG on monitors but i bought a Samsung instead 😛

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Should I work for like an extra 200$?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:22 AM

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If you work you might need more than 200$ extra

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:23 AM

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how mycgh

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much*

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?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:23 AM

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The FX 6300 system is not worth $500 Maybe$200? It's really just the case, gpu, HDD, Cooler that are worth anything at all.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I've seen people sell like an HD7870 and athlon for 450$

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Used

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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you would need at least a total of 1000$

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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WHAT

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😦

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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for what @latent bronze

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what are you trying to run?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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for a full build

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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no..

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:24 AM

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nah

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nowadays you can get a decent pc for more than 500

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if you build it yourself

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Well i don't think he wants "decent"

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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I'm gonna be doing streaming

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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There's a big jump in the performance / dollar build curve around 600 ish because that means Ryzen 3600 + whatever

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Editing

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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well he can always upgrade down the line if he wants

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Stuff like that

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:25 AM

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i see

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you can get a good editing pc for 800 bucks or more

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thats about the cheapest

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i can stream decently with 130+ frames

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and it was only 750 to build

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but yE

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:26 AM

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but what are you streaming is the question

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Mainly fortnite

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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ok we can't be friends anymore LOL

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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wait we were?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Lmao😂😂😂

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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i don't know you tell me ThinkingEgg

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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That's messed up

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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you already did

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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HB was it you that we were having this talk with him last night?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Yes

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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oh fortnite?

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that crap is easy to run

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let alone stream

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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He needs the list with the 3 parts again

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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you can lower it to under 800 and you can stream just fine with 144fps

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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I have no clue what I’ve done. I’ve literally just put random mess together. I’ve never built a pc before and it shows in this list.

📎 image0.png 📎 image1.png 📎 image2.png 📎 image3.png 📎 image4.png 📎 image5.png

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Share a pcpp instead

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Ryzen 5 3600, x570 tuf gaming and I believe it was a memory upgrade

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:29 AM

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@foggy pendant use pcpartpicker instead of images

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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2x8 3200 memory I believe

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Also using a 2060 and going for that elgato is pretty pointless

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I'm just going to put together a 700$ build

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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alright, you can get a better gpu, save money on a case, maybe a better cpu for that price range, and save some money from that psu

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thats the main stuff

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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@next tangle if you can go 800 you can get a better cpu

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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@latent bronze Not necessarily, depends what he wants to stream from. But I would recommend the updated version of that card.

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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we can help put a pc part list for you, just name your price

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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2000😂😂😂😂

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Lmao

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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rly?

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lets get to it then

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Nawh I already have my build done

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😂😂😂

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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tho im too lazy so ill wait for you guys lma0

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I'm gonna stream GPU

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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what?

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could you repeat

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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@little osprey If he is playing games from like 2015 and below sure he can hit 4K 60 fps with no problem

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maybe even 2016 games

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:32 AM

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I meant the elgato

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:33 AM

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oh ok

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Btw, those the images that were posted was mess from my pc list. I’ve never built before.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:33 AM

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well if he plans on doing PC streaming wouldn't that card be pointless?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Get the 2070 its alittle more for a better card, super if you have an extra 50

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Or just get the 1660

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:34 AM

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@latent bronze I didn't know if he had stated whether or not he intends to stream other content.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Who we talking about??😂😂😂

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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dont rly know

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Lmao

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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@foggy pendant Are you planning on streaming console games?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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I think Squeeze's picture vomit

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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@latent bronze yes

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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@foggy pendant what's your budget??

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:35 AM

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And what games are you playing on your console?

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:36 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MRNcZR

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There

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:37 AM

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doesn't have to be all the games you're playing

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:38 AM

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gtx 1070 is not 220 bucks

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that build would cost like 700 if not more

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:38 AM

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I just put random mess together. I can’t really afford $2000 worth. But if I was able to, I plan on streaming Doom, Team Sonic Racing and maybe some PS2 and Wii games.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:38 AM

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@chilly marsh found one for 220$

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😉

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:38 AM

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Most you milling to spend @foggy pendant

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Willing*

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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@chilly marsh and it is a little above 700$ 😂

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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My suggestion for retro type of consoles is to see if there is a following first before you decide on streaming those

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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thats bs

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gtx 1070's dont cost 200

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Krayola what is that pcpp

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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unless they're used

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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@little osprey If I were to sell my whole PC for 500$ and work up 200$

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:39 AM

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@latent bronze imma stream the ps2 game rapale bassmaster😂😂😂

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:40 AM

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@chilly marsh I'm fine with used

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:40 AM

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@chilly marsh the blacked out prices are from ebay so

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Not only eBay

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Craigslist, letgo

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Frys

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Ok, your current FX 6300 is not worth $500. If you find someone to pay that much, it's up to you whether or not you want to rip them off.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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I mean

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I was already ripped off

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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@sweet charm i can stream PS2 games as well but if there is no viewers for it then i wont stream is and the main people will watch for retro games are speed runners

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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@next tangle realistically, if you were selling to someone who knew pc parts, you would prob be getting less than 400 dollars sadly

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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@latent bronze yea I wanna try speed running super mario 65

chilly marsh Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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prebuilts are like hundreds of dollars more expensive than the parts themselves if YOU bought them are.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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64

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Is an RTX a good select? Or did I mess up?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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@chilly marsh that depends

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Intel-i7-2600-3-40-Quad-8-GB-1-TB-Nvidia-GTX660-Ti-2-GB/401836790799?hash=item5d8f56d40f%3Ag%3A1gYAAOSwLrtdRlj-&LH_BIN=1

eBay

Custom Gaming Desktop PC Intel i7-2600 3.40 Quad 8 GB 1 TB Nvidia ...

Nvidia Geforce GTX660 Ti 2 GB GDDR5. 8 GB DDR3 RAM. Custom Gaming PC. Ready to go out of the box, there is no keyboard, mouse, speakers, or monitor included unless otherwise arranged. You will receive the desktop only plus one power cable, no software, discs or manuals.

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3 people bought that..

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Assume the FX CPU AM3+ mobo and memory will be $<50

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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there are some that comes close to the actual value of the parts

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-Gaming-Computer-PC-Windows-10-16GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-Nvidia-GTX-1050-HDMI-WiFi/254283553119?epid=3033619996&hash=item3b347b195f%3Ag%3AXxEAAOSwhn5dG4fA&LH_BIN=1 63 people

eBay

Fast Gaming Computer PC Windows 10 16GB RAM 1TB HDD Nvidia GTX 105...

--- Features/Specifications ------Mini Tower Factor chassis ------3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3470 Up to 3.6 GHz Quad-Core processor (6M Cache) ------Chipset Type: Intel Q77 Express ------Processor Socket: LGA1155 Socket ------DDR3 SDRAM (32 GB Max) ------Serial ATA hard drive ----...

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 AM

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I think AM3+ used is cheaper than that

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That is an optiplex system so there are people that will buy those

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:43 AM

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@next tangle I sold an old AIO cooled 3770k, 1tb hd, 16 gigs ddr3, twin 680 superclocked singuture build I had for like 450 bucks

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stuffs not terrible. I believe it

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:44 AM

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So, my PC list is garbage? Gosh darn...

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:44 AM

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@foggy pendant Hey, we're happy to help, this text channel has just been a bit active.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:45 AM

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There is more than just you asking for a build and wanting suggestions so

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:45 AM

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@foggy pendant https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMn6cY if you are willing to spend a 1000

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:45 AM

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HB where is his Elgato lol

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Lmao

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Was just going for pure performance

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Since he wanted to edit and stream... hopefully at 1080

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:47 AM

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I think his budget was closer to 2k

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:47 AM

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If its 2k just get my build... its 2034.81 hahaha

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4k60 on tomb raider

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:47 AM

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The best parts choices will vary often because of sales etc. That's more of a minor detail though.

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@sweet charm Link your 2k build

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:48 AM

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so 4K30 on SottR then lol

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:48 AM

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yo

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:48 AM

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yoyo

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:48 AM

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I upgraded the build a bit to reach $2k

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:49 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nJ9JCb @little osprey

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:49 AM

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@sweet charm 4k60? what card u have

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:49 AM

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2080

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Not that I'm right 100% of the time, far from it, but it'd save me time lol

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:49 AM

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2080 super

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I gotta change it again

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:50 AM

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ah I see so the ti should be more then fine for the 4k60 i guess

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:50 AM

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2080 super is a poor value. Go 2070 super or 5700xt nitro etc

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:50 AM

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2080 super is same price as 2080

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Wanna go to, but its 1000

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Ti

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I actually liked the $1000 option, not bad.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Hahaha... is good enough to run 1080p60 on most games @foggy pendant

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:51 AM

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how is this build?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydCdjy

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:51 AM

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I think it's smart to have a loose budget if you're unsure what parts will give the performance you expect.

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:51 AM

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except thats its AMD

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JK ofcourse

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:52 AM

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For 2k I'd change quite a bit there.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:52 AM

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@sleek mist 1000w is overkill

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850 is more than enough @sleek mist

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 4:52 AM

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I see seagate

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:52 AM

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1000W is more than necessary but that itself dosen't make every 1000W+ PSU a poor choice.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:52 AM

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I mean in terms of PSU quality its a great psu

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Weird it said 850 for me

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:53 AM

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and plz dont use those 1999 HD even for storage

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Is AMD good or bad?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:53 AM

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in terms of how much your system actually draws, your looking at 650

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:53 AM

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For example, if your #1 priority was a near silent PC, getting an AX1200i for an RTX 2070+3700x could be a good idea since the fan might never have to turn on.

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Wdym 1900 hd

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@thorny sparrow

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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old hard drives lol

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from 1999

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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complaining about hard platter hard drives

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Is that what mine is?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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they work fine even today

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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lol sorry i know everyones budget is different

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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This is the build i am using now https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nHN6cY

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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is my hard drive old lol?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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theres a bunch of games that arent even big enough to throw on a SSD to make it worth it

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:54 AM

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they do I still have one from 2007

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Most parts on there i have gotten on special

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:55 AM

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like half my steam library is sitting on a 1.5 TB HD. you dont need SSD's all the time

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:55 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qLkJCb full build monitor, keyboard and mouse

thorny sparrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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I only have one HD in my new build dont have enough to get a second one, hopefully soon

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Todays high cache HD's are actually faster than the 10,000 rpm gaming hard drives of old

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Only running ssd on my part for os

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Here are mine, I need to add peripherals https://pcpartpicker.com/user/UCAUCA/saved/#view=BtxWbv

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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the 1tb WD black I have benches faster than the old 500 gig velociraptor i still have

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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HB guess what

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Yee

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Ecks

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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What build would be better for streaming Nintendo Switch?

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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i am going to take a chance with this NVMe https://www.newegg.com/plextor-m9pe-256gb/p/N82E16820249109

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Haha I always wanted a velociraptor, does it have the window?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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@sleek mist personally I would go with a WD over seagate, but 3tb seagates arent bad at all

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Wow its almost 1am already

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 4:57 AM

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No, its an old prototype before they went to mass market

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I won it free

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rediculous considering it was a 350 dollar drive back then

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:58 AM

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@latent bronze tbh I'd stick with the samsung one

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Ones

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Well i like testing out tech i never heard of before

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 4:59 AM

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The 860 is pretty good for the price

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Yea, but you never know if its trash

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 4:59 AM

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@latent bronze That's a perfectly good reason then. I only recommended other options for the value conscious

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Well the rating seems to look good and has a lot of good reviews

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Yikes, now I’m concerned about these parts:

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little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:00 AM

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@foggy pendant Go here and make an account instead of uploading pictures for that purpose https://pcpartpicker.com

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Back then in 2016 i never heard of Team Group so i tried out their memory and ever since then i have been using them

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Your parts/build aren't that bad, we all seem to have some recommendations, but pcpp makes it easier.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:01 AM

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never has any issues so far with that company

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Team makes some of the best b-die DDR4 sticks, the team dark pro 3200 14 14 14 31 2x8

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And hey, it's on sale for $120 https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820313712

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I have those sticks in my 9900k build

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:02 AM

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why would you recommend a 2060

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im an nvidia guy but for 349 a 2060 is garbage

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Yikes.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:03 AM

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@latent bronze true if you believe and they turn out good keep using them

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:03 AM

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the5700 is on par with a 2070

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and cheaper

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:03 AM

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@foggy pendant get the 1660ti

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Just about the same price

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:03 AM

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right now best bang for your buck is a 5700 or 5700xt

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Performance alone may not be the only 5700 vs 2060/2070 factor, NVENC, CUDA, and if you really want... RTX may be a certain user's preference

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:04 AM

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I build as a sidejob Ive been team green for the last 3-4 years. I now am doing 5700 or 5700xt for 1080 and 2k gaming

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RTX on a 2060 is useless

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I have 2 2080ti ftws with NV link and I still think RTX tech is bull

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:05 AM

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@shut lance Same here, last AMD card was a 5870 for mining

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:05 AM

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for gaming performance though ..... at 1080 / 2k I cannot recommend a 2060 or 2070

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:06 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190824-220612_Chrome.jpg

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:06 AM

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I agree with all of that @shut lance

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:06 AM

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So, RTX is garbage?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:06 AM

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That's up to you

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:06 AM

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with their lower end yes unfortunately

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the performance hit is bad

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:07 AM

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I have a 2080 ti and I think RTX is useless. I've used it for about 5 minutes. But that's personal preference.

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Okay so I want RX 5700?

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:07 AM

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and I dont recommend spending $400 on a card to play 1080p with

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:07 AM

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Depends on the game and how competitive, say 240hz, but ya.

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:08 AM

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@little osprey exactly , gaming move to fast to check out reflections in puddles.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:08 AM

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back

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Recommend the asus rog for rtx.. it's the quietest one out of them all at temps are only 1⁰C difference

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Im playing on my X27 @4k and leave RTX off

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:08 AM

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@shut lance What's in the rest of your build? Also do you have the 2080 ti ftw3 model?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:08 AM

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@shut lancetrue

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:09 AM

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This was on Newegg’s front page. Is this good?

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shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Yeah 2 x 2080 ti FTW3 ultras, 32gb 3600 corsair dominator RGB and a 9900k delidded @5.2k under water

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:10 AM

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@foggy pendant Post links, no need to upload pictures for that purpose.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:10 AM

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@foggy pendant if your getting the 1660 get the 1660ti

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:10 AM

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$230 for a 1660 is too much. (non ti)

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Its 280 for the 1660ti

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Might as well get it

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:11 AM

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@foggy pendant what are your goals with the system?

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Streaming.

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:11 AM

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what games?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:12 AM

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@shut lance Nice! Custom loop? 3600 XMP rating? or OC

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:12 AM

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The 1000 build I sent is more than capable or handling that and light editing

split flame Aug 25, 2019, 5:12 AM

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I found a 1660 non ti version for $230

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:12 AM

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I have the non ultra 2080 ti. I want to waterblock it soon, for bench/fun.

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Team Sonic Racing, Doom, Tomb Raider, I plan on streaming those.

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:13 AM

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@little osprey yeah , but its soft tubing, gathering courage for a hardline setup. Bending takes time and patience. Which with a 2 and 5 year old arent my strong suits lol

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racing and doom are easy, TR favors nvidia

split flame Aug 25, 2019, 5:13 AM

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What do you guys think I need to stream fortnige

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:13 AM

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1660ti is nice

split flame Aug 25, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Fortnite

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So far Ik getting a 1660 and a ryzen 5 3400g

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:14 AM

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It doesn't matter whether I pair an AMD CPU with a Nvidia GPU right?

split flame Aug 25, 2019, 5:14 AM

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No

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:14 AM

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@squeez head over to HardOCP forums people are buying/selling all the time. For $250 you can get a sweet card for cheap under factory warranty

split flame Aug 25, 2019, 5:14 AM

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It shouldnt unless something is wrong with your parts

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Pasting: Performance alone may not be the only 5700 vs 2060/2070 factor, NVENC, CUDA, and if you really want... RTX may be a certain user's preference

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:14 AM

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But I still need to match the GPU to the monitor depending on whether I want freesync or g-sync though

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 AM

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jay not really

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 AM

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To clarify, NVENC on a 1660/ti can be a very desirable feature for single pc streaming

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 AM

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alot of newer freesync monitors you CAN enable gsync on

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Ah

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Okay thanks. I was quite confused for a minute.

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Unless you're spending $350 on a 1440p 144hz (real) hardware g-sync monitor, no

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 AM

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But you cant use freesync on a gsync monitor

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Haha I'm shocked tbh, you have the exact same advice that I would give so far

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:18 AM

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ive been building for friends/coworkers/fam for so long I have no brand loyalty

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so I like best bang for buck

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:18 AM

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This'll be my first build so I'm pretty excited to learn about these things

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:18 AM

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only reason I lean towards Nvidia is driver stability

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but amd is slowly improving there

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:18 AM

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same as when friends wanna spend $200 on a m.2 samsung evo pro, I tell them to get a $100 1TB SSD. for playing games they wont notice the 2sec difference

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@rough loom I agree there. AMD drivers have been poo

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:19 AM

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If you want to know about stuff watch, gamernexus... he goes into detail on parts in his videos... @sullen briar

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Will do. Thanks.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:19 AM

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@sullen briarnp

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Jay , yeah Gamernexus is good, I like Bitwit, Jayz2cents, Linus and HardwareCanucks

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Pauls hardware also

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Linus and nitwit are my go to too

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Bitwit

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Hardware unboxed is good too

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Linus is kinda more for entertainment

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

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They need more Lyle

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Yea, but he does test alot of stuff too tho

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Okay so I currently have an RTX 2060 on my wishlist. I should switch that out for a 5700 tx?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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@little osprey

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Or go for the 2080super😂😂😂

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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LOL no my monitor can't handle that power

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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5700xy would be the better choice

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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if you dont care about RTX raytracing or DLSS than go for the 5700xt partner card

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Jay, go to that forum I told you about. RTX 2060's for $250 used but under factory warranty

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Is you monitor at 1080??

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@sullen briar

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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5700xt is my go to recommendation atm for 1080 or 2k

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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I'm still in the process of looking for parts

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but my wishlisted one is at 1080 yeah

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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you'll get more framerate performance out of the 5700xt vs the 2060

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Check the two monitors and ssd deal I posted

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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@sullen briar what's you budget??

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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2k

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Daaaaammmmnn

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@sullen briar what's your build so far??

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:23 AM

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https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/MyWishlistDetail?ID=9275837

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I just built for a friend, got him a 3700x, 32gb ram, 5700xt a 1tb m.2 evo and a 2tb hdd for $1800 with 2k 144hz gsync monitor

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Not sure if you can see it

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I don't have a partspicker account yet

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Get one and make it

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It's easier to look for parts

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:24 AM

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oo okay

still roostBOT Aug 25, 2019, 5:24 AM

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envymert#0293 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:24 AM

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ahh poo work in 6 hours

sullen spoke Aug 25, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Oof

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:25 AM

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gota rest up for WoW classic

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my wife isnt going to be very happy lol

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:27 AM

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@shut lance Haha nice, if you want post/pm your pcpp , hwbot etc I'm interested to see what else you use.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Do you need to buy WoW classic or just sub?

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:28 AM

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just sub

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:28 AM

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ok i might play again then

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ill try to do what i did in Vanilla WoW

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go from level 10 to 60 as a retro druid lol

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:29 AM

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what's the difference between a ddr4-3k and a ddr4-3.2k?

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:29 AM

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@little osprey just a 1tb samsung pro , 2 2tb samsung 860 evo ssds. EVGA 1000 Watt PSU in a corsair 500d case.

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:29 AM

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just a little more speed

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Speed

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:29 AM

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@little osprey mobo is a MSI MEGx570 Ace

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:31 AM

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What if with my 500$ I just get like a 5700XT?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:31 AM

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@sullen briar Speed alone, barely any noticeable difference. But when it comes to picking ram for a system, three are a ton of other important considerations even among different 3200mhz kits.

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:31 AM

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like what

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:31 AM

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@next tangle you cpu motherboard and memory wouldn't be able to handle it

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Or limit it

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:32 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Mn8TW/oloy-warhawk-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-md4u163216beda

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Jay where do you live?

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Would it fry it?

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:32 AM

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This is the ram I chose

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:32 AM

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I'd be fine with a big bottleneck

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:32 AM

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It would handle it just he will have a really massive bottleneck

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big isn't even the word lol

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Lol, check out my bottleneck timespy post in #overclocking

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dr7RpG

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is there any bottlenecking here

latent bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:33 AM

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nope

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:33 AM

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@sullen briar whre u from?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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@sleek mist none you could get the next 2 video cards and still have no bottlenecking

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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is my mobo good?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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I'd pick a different ssd for boot, the $100 EX920 is a steal, makes a great C:/

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Lemme check it out

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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The x570 elite or the Asus x570 TUF would be my pick over the steel legend, but it's not awful.

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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which ones better

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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@sleek mist I'd choose the x570 tuf gaming board

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Ok I’ll change

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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@little osprey agreed

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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elite is "better" the TUF/legend is a preference/feature thing

elfin flicker Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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AORUS > TUF

shut lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:35 AM

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alright bed time gnite guys

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 5:36 AM

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How is the elite better?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:36 AM

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@elfin flicker Not true as a blanket statement. But for z390 definitely yes for comparing the elite/pro/ultra/master to the hero/formula/code

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Google Docs

X570/X470/X370/B450/B350/A320 Motherboards (AM4-socket for AMD Ryz...

AM4 MB Comparison @2017-2019 raisonjohn b.

AM4-socket MOTHERBOARD COMPARISON,SUBJECTIVE TIERS:,HOW TO SORT & FILTER THE MOTHERBOARD MODELS YOU ONLY NEED TO SEE AND COMPARE: ...

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:37 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/twcHvn

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There

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It's a tiny bit above 500$

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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The x570 elite has a very robust VRM package for $200 board. It has a lowish end on-board audio chip though.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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And with that I can upgrade 😄

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So should I go with that?

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In the future I can get like a 3600

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Yea, but you'd have to wait ahile time before you can really get better parts

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Why?

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Oh true..

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Yeah I told you the reasons before

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Cause you'd have to upgrade your other parts

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:40 AM

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I mean I can stream GPU too

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:41 AM

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So, are all RTX graphic cards a pile nonsense?

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Most

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Imo

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:41 AM

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I still like the rtx 2080

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Anything below the 2070 super and the 2070 super itself, is a pile of nonsense imo

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 AM

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@shut lance San Diego

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Yup pretty much

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Originally from Maui though

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 AM

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@sullen briar aye cali bros

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Ha, I'm from Oahu

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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WHAT

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I'M PART HAWAIIAN!

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Wow cool beans

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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My mom's from Honolulu

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Haha ya, Honolulu.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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We still have family on Big Island, Honolulu, Oahu

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Rip I missed the notifications because I was setting up my partspicker account and parts

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Any of you like Spam Musubi?

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:44 AM

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It's p good. very handy.

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:44 AM

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yis vry mooooooooooooooch

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:44 AM

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@foggy pendant if your gonna get a rtx the only one that is worth it is the 2080 super or 2080ti...

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The 2080 and the 2080 super are the same price

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Okay so stay away from RTX for me Gotcha

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:45 AM

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@sleek mist hey, didn't forget you, so $2k budget, gaming/ streaming? and what games? What monitor

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Pasting: Performance alone may not be the only 5700 vs 2060/2070 factor, NVENC, CUDA, and if you really want... RTX may be a certain user's preference

next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:45 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LwgBfH so I'm probably gonna get that

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And in the future I'll first get a better PSU

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then a new CPU

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:45 AM

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@next tangle yes

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:45 AM

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What I mean is that RTX cards aren't always a poor choice even if you never want to use RTX itself - e.g. real time ray tracing in BF V

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:46 AM

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@little osprey yea I get it

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I just like the way it looks😂😂

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Triple fan

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Haha I know, I was replying to 3SJay1 mostly

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:47 AM

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please call me Jay

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:47 AM

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And also to squeeze as he had asked "are all gtx garbage"

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Tbh not even gonna be using the rtx really... just want the performance

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Lmao

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If you get it

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:48 AM

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My room mate wants the RTX for minecraft

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LOL

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Lmao

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Right now, the pc I have is a potato.

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:48 AM

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@sweet charm Which card do you have again?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:48 AM

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None wanting to get the 2080 super

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 5:48 AM

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bruh who has that money

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that's like a month of living

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Chat moved a bit quick, I think uqb and squeeze still could use legit build advice

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Building my first pc soon.... just know a bit cause I've been researching for like 6months

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Also spam musubi is great. Even from 7-11.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Yes its great...

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next tangle Aug 25, 2019, 5:50 AM

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YEEEEEEEEEEEEES

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Ah, yes, before Tony went CG.

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:53 AM

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@foggy pendant @sleek mist do you guys still need answer??

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:53 AM

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What pc cases do you recommend?

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Meshify c

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I'm in love with it

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 5:54 AM

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^ and also browse around https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/ and just see what catches your eye

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 5:54 AM

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It looks amazing with rgb fans in the front and top

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I believe you can put like 7 fans in that damn thing😂😂😂

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Personally Im a fan of the revised H500 Mesh series from coolermaster. The view series of cases is great

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from thermaltake

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if you want cooling performance those are two top dogs

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:58 AM

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What about H500i?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:58 AM

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from nzxt?

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Yep

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 5:59 AM

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I dont even know how it intakes air

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the air intake in the fronts going to be restricted heavily

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if you want nzxt i would go H700

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Not gonna lie, NZXT is probably the only affordable thing for me. Everything else? Nah.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:03 AM

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you gotta look at how air intake is done. if its through tiny slits and stuff like that. Your gonna have a bad time

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the case you build in is as important as your motherboard featureset

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Okay

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:07 AM

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$2k budget?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Closed front cases are scary these days. If they dont give a good gap than you get heat soak of components and lose clock speeds

foggy pendant Aug 25, 2019, 6:09 AM

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I’m a poor boi, but NZXT does have good prices.

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:10 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mRFsbX

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Can I get this build critiqued?

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I put the RTX 2070 there for reference since i'm not clear on what GPU i want yet

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I do want a lot of cooling though

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Interested in single pc streaming?

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Nope

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Just solidworks model building and playing MHW on mindblowing HD

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:11 AM

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looks fine to me

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:12 AM

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how many fans do I need

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 6:12 AM

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I'd get a noctua cpu cooler and spray paint it black or what ever color you need

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Dark Rock isn't as good?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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eh that coolers fine

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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I want it to be quiet too

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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its a giant finstack

sweet charm Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Noctuas are just the best in the market

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And same price

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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one one of the top 5 air coolers. if you like the black than keep it

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:13 AM

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I'll look into the noctua

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:14 AM

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There are many "top tier" air coolers equivalent to the Noctua D15. The dark rock pro 4 is one of them

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:14 AM

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okay so I'm fine. Cool.

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Yes, each has pros/cons but it's not like a 2080 ti vs 5700 or something.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:14 AM

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once the fin stack gets big enough its doesnt really matter XD

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Heat pipe config, mounting system, included fans etc

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:16 AM

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I forget who did it, but there was a air cooler showdown on one of the big channels. the big ones were all within a few degrees of each other

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:16 AM

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since the estimated wattage is 359W should I bring my powersource down from 850W?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Yep, paste as well, that's why I said there's a wide range of "top tier" choices

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:17 AM

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nah. Less load on the PSU means more efficiency and quieter fan spinup or might not need to spin up at all

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you can step down to like 750 modular or something, but thats up to you

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:18 AM

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it won't affect performance much right

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:18 AM

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nah

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just get a reputable brand

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:18 AM

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Rough guide https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1045610-new-psu-tier-list/

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Oh wow gaming terms

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EZ for me

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:19 AM

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seasonic, corsair, evga, ect all make good psu's

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:19 AM

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I've got the EVGA P2

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:21 AM

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This guy does the best PSU reviews IMO https://www.tomshardware.com/articles/?author_name=Aris Mpitziopoulos

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:22 AM

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oo corsair looks like the way to go

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still the same tier as EVGA though

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:23 AM

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odd that evga's g2 isnt A+ some of the industrys biggest psu testers rated that thing immaculately well build

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Both use various OEMs. http://www.orionpsudb.com/corsair

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I don't personally agree with that tier list 100% but I understand the challenge of making the ranking relevant to a wide usebase.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:26 AM

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I agree with some, not some fo those 1k evga numbers though

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:26 AM

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okay. I went with 750W to slash down the price a bit

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same model though

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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things not to skimp on are usually cases, and mobos, and PSU's

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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If you want a quiet PC, I'd skip the P2.

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:27 AM

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OH yes

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WHat are quiet ones

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I'm guessing bequiet

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Whatever is good + on sale

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:28 AM

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lol bequiet is usually a good bet for quiet

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:29 AM

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went with straight power 11

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A+ tier

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750W

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Looks good

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it's at gold efficiency though. Is that fine?

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:30 AM

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golds good

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my PSU is gold rated

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Gold is fine. If you want to spend $150-$1200 you can get about "twice" as efficient and 10/12 year warranty, but you should be fine with a $80 750 gold or whatever is on sale.

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Alright

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I mean, I'm not planning on buying it ASAP

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I'll be waiting for the parts I choose to go on-sale before I go about it

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:33 AM

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I made this for a $1500 target build on stream, prices changed around a bit, that ram is a niche pick. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/UCAUCA/saved/VKhx6h

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:34 AM

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RX5700XT is good on 1440p yeah?

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well, it's exactly the same price as the RTX 2700 so I guess it doesn't matter

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:36 AM

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https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/powercolor_5700_red_devil_review,26.html

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:38 AM

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not gonna lie...with the introduction of the super tag its so difficult to judge where cards stand vs what I have XD

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Comparing our set-ups, mine costs more because I added the monitor and keyboard

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:39 AM

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I still really like userbenchmark as a tool.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:40 AM

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all the tech youtubers hate it

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its inacurate and doesnt represent real workloads for testing

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:40 AM

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People draw the wrong conclusions from it.

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It's certainly far from comprehensive.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:41 AM

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if they had a standardized test than sure. but they dont

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like its got the i5 9400f and it 9600k listed as the best for intel and they both get smoked by the 3600

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best gpu's being 1660?

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Ya, I don't find those "overall score" ratings useful at all.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:45 AM

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the website is designed to get click traffic and nothing more

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 6:47 AM

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I think it's one of the best tools that I can ask a user to run when helping them troubleshoot.

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Example from a few weeks ago, user just wanted to see if everything was working normally.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19171019

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From that I can tell they are running both sticks in the same channel with xmp off.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 6:57 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19581445

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I ran it. meh. for somereason didnt say I completed it when I deffinately did

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note I didnt close anything running in the backround

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I dono why the graphics bench failed

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Not usually a problem for troubleshooting purposes.
PC seems fine, maybe defrag the WD black and update bios if recommended.
Probably userbench's broken GPU test 's fault

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I think they're updating that part? Unsure

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 7:00 AM

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oh no. the WD black is my main OS drive and has everything open running on it

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discord, chrome, backround tasks, steam, 2 other game launchers

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funny thing is everything is stock settings XD

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except my gpu's

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Ah, I just assumed ssd was.

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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nah thats for my games

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my high demand games

sullen briar Aug 25, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Thanks for the tips guys

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Took me more research, but I have the general layout

little osprey Aug 25, 2019, 7:06 AM

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From the bottleneck build https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/19539808
2500k/2080 ti lol

rough loom Aug 25, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I hope amd ramps up 3900x production by the time christmas starts

sleek mist Aug 25, 2019, 10:23 AM

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What’s better 3700x or i9 9900k

lime forge Aug 25, 2019, 4:40 PM

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9900k

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in performance

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not in value

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 4:59 PM

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3900x unless ur 200% only using it for GaMiNg

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Where 4 FPS more is important than the productivity and future proof

pulsar garnet Aug 25, 2019, 7:03 PM

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^

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3950x if you want to be extra

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:27 PM

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So I made something, and want you all to judge

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its a pc build on an asrock x570 taichi; ryzen 5 3600; rx 5700 xt red devil

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ram is 2 times 8gb 3200 mhz cl 16

pulsar garnet Aug 25, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Judging you for picking ASRock motherboard but everything else looks okay

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:29 PM

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That’s board is way to overpriced for a 3600

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I know I want to upgrade in the future and want he good ram performance

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:30 PM

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get like a x570 TUF or something

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that mobo is overkill

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:30 PM

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ok thx

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and one more question

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is the deepcool captain 240 pro better or worse than the nzxt kraken x62?

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:31 PM

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the majority of 240’s perform about the same

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but you could get the same performance from like a $90 air cooler

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and you could save a little by getting the 5700xt pulse which just has a little less cooling performance for $30 less

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:32 PM

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i live in germany

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:32 PM

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oh ic

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:32 PM

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and ive got a deal where bot cards are the same price

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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oh yeah get the red devil

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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i really want a great looking pc so that drives most of my decision making

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thats why I opt to get an aio

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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oh yeah then they should all perform nearly identical

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just up to looks

wheat river Aug 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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and red devil tbh

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ok thx for the help I think just for looks ill stay with the taichi (also upgrades) and mybe get the captain instead the x62

deep skiff Aug 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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I would still go for a cheaper board cause am4 is supposed to only be supported until 2020

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and that’s more for high overclock

pulsar garnet Aug 25, 2019, 7:38 PM

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If you're getting taichi get at least a 3700x