building-and-recc-chat

[frigid edge]

no damage or issues

cpu is still very new from an rma of my original 13400f

[gentle pollen]

Two generations behind.

[frigid edge]

uh huh

just the motherboard is selling for like 250 used on ebay

so maybe like 320-340 dollars

[gentle pollen]

I'd say sell it at 40-50% of what you bought it for.

[hollow gulch]

Why we keep going with a 7600X when a 9600X is $10 more

[gentle pollen]

And if you want it to actually sell, sell slightly below market.

[hollow gulch]

Bad ssd

[gentle pollen]

So sell the board for $200-225.

[frigid edge]

impossible, the motherboard is an rma of one i bought malfunctional for like 70 dollars

[gentle pollen]

Otherwise you will be waiting ages for everything to be sold.

[frigid edge]

and cpu i bought way back when it was $200 then got that rma too

[gentle pollen]

I mean based on MSRP

If the CPU retails $600 new then sell it $300 used.

You can probably sell the bundle if you price it at $296. @frigid edge

[frigid edge]

315 it is

[gentle pollen]

Alright, should also work

[frigid edge]

niceee

i need enough to pick up that 7900x and then a motherboard

[gentle pollen]

B650M HDV has been retailing for $99.

[frigid edge]

no matx

[gentle pollen]

Great RAM OC board with WiFi and two nvme.

[gentle pollen]

Why?

[frigid edge]

i have an atx case

[gentle pollen]

ATX cases support mATX.

[frigid edge]

i'm aware

I do not

ooooh

[gentle pollen]

Missing a heatsink.

[frigid edge]

i dont even see it

and only have one nvme

[fallen sphinx]

15$, and virtually no difference

[fallen sphinx]

is that so?

[frigid edge]

perfect

[gentle pollen]

@frigid edge

[frigid edge]

i meant i dont see it missing when gpu is in

but i like that one i just sent

[gentle pollen]

If you're fine with losing performance for looks and paying 10% more then go for it.

[frigid edge]

what is better for less

thats not matx

[gentle pollen]

None that fits both in the new market.

Try looking for a B650E Taichi.

[frigid edge]

Holy mother of deals perhaps

Just cant use an x3d chip

which who am i kidding ill probably never get one if i have a 7900x

[gentle pollen]

If this is fully functional then definitely get this.

[frigid edge]

description says it works with a 7600, just boot cycles forever with 7800x3d

[gentle pollen]

I have seen people run SR 8600mhz 2:1 on Zen5 using that.

[frigid edge]

thats ram or cpu

prob ram

[gentle pollen]

CPU issue, I had the same problem with my 7950x3D.

[frigid edge]

ah so then its fine

[gentle pollen]

Sent it to AMD to RMA and they confirmed it.

[frigid edge]

well perfect then, it looks nice too

[gentle pollen]

Make sure to update the bios and be careful with ASRock boards in that they allow users to set high voltages since their target audience are enthusiasts and overclockers.

[frigid edge]

what if

buy to resell and get more money and better motherboard

normal listings are above 200 dollars consistently

wait a second is it eatx

[gentle pollen]

Not worth it. Most people are still avoiding ASRock because of the stupid few that blew up their chips on older bios and used insufficient cooling plus high voltages.

[frigid edge]

i'll include that in the listing

how much you think i can sell this 14900kf for

[gentle pollen]

You said E cores aren't working?

[frigid edge]

when i tested it it worked and just didnt have e cores working

like they showed up in bios, enabled, but in windows task manager says 8 cores, cpuz says 8p cores, and hwinfo shows them but blank

as in not on

[gentle pollen]

Hmm maybe $200. Because your selling half of a used CPU. I'd only sell it for higher if you can prove that the E cores work.

[frigid edge]

yeah if you can imagine this but with 24 cores, 16 being blank rectangles with no ratio or mhz

[gentle pollen]

It's ATX. But just enjoy the good board for $89.

The only better boards are the ASRock HDV, Asus X670I Gene, and Asus X870E Apex.

[frigid edge]

i'll buy it and use it and see if it sells for 200

can we go based of the barely above average needs of a gamer and not an overclocker please

[gentle pollen]

Well you said better board. If you just want looks, then really any X5X or X7X with some armor and flare will be enough for a gamer.

[hollow gulch]

Not true

[hollow gulch]

Yes, innogrit controller, also on the slower end

Unfortunately ssd prices will just continue to rise, but this is a good drive with dram cache https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M8yH99/crucial-t500-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000t500ssd8

[stoic island]

what is this innogrit discrimination smh

also the only confirmed 2tb model uses realtek RTS5772DL, the innogrit version is only confirmed on 500gb/1tb

[hollow gulch]

innoshit

[stoic island]

innogreat smh

[hollow gulch]

Still wouldnt get the c910 would rather have a better drive

Unfortunately p41 platinum OOS

Was $115 for 2tb on newegg

[stoic island]

the only issue with innogrit was ig5236+ymtc 232l that later got fixed smh

c910 isn't a great drive but it's decent enough for most use

[fallen sphinx]

140$ for a 2tb ssd is a scam

[hollow gulch]

Its one of the fastest gen4 ssds, its not a scam. Plus youre already starting to see the same impact AI had on ram but with ssds now

[stoic island]

that's just prices going up lol

[fallen sphinx]

ah yes cause every single person is buying a pc for ai

[hollow gulch]

Its only gonna get worse

What

You dont understand what I said..

[fallen sphinx]

no, 2tb is like 110-125

[hollow gulch]

Not anymore

[fallen sphinx]

it currently is

[hollow gulch]

Just how like ram is $80

Not anymore

[fallen sphinx]

they CURRENTLY are

[hollow gulch]

C910 not a drive i would get but okie dokie

T500 is the cheapest one id consider personally

[fallen sphinx]

your opinion dictates all ❤️

[stoic island]

the only thing that might perform better at that price range is xg7000, but I have less faith in the variations of xg7000 than c910 lol
https://www.newegg.com/kingspec-2tb-xg-7000-series/p/0D9-000D-00172

theoretically the only 2tb versions are decent enough and only the 4tb has a qlc variant

[hollow gulch]

Its just a much more well rounded drive. If they can afford it why not get it.

[fallen sphinx]

next to 0 benefit

[hollow gulch]

Dram cache is not 0 benefit

But ok

[fallen sphinx]

for 99% of people it is

[hollow gulch]

Its an OS drive, you'd want dram

They also last longer.

[stoic island]

tbh everything past gen 3 drives have had little to no benefit to the average person

[fallen sphinx]

^

[stoic island]

anything past hmb being introduced

[hollow gulch]

For $15 id easily take the 9600X, no brainer.

[stoic island]

fit it in if you have nothing else to spend money on but it's a pretty low priority

[hollow gulch]

Good boost in lows and avg fps

[fallen sphinx]

showing 1080p gg

[hollow gulch]

Its a cpu test, the 9600X is still better at 1440p lmao

[fallen sphinx]

then show the fps difference in 1440p

[hollow gulch]

Cpu test is always going to be in a lower resolution because that shows you what cpu is better

Shocking

[hollow gulch]

More than worth the 15 bucks lol

[fallen sphinx]

ok then get that

[weary galleon]

For decent NVMe drives it really doesn't matter much. On data ssds it was a lot more important

[snow dragon]

It is not that, it is more allocation going towards the server farms instead of us

[fallen sphinx]

Ik

[snow dragon]

Something similar is going on with tsmc and graphics cards

[hollow gulch]

Still matters and there's benefits like longevity

They stay fast when an hmb drive will start to drop off performance once you fill up the SLC cache

[gentle pollen]

Agreed. The average consumer can't tell and won't benefit from good 4.0 let alone 5.0 drives.

@hollow gulch, @fallen sphinx, @snow dragon

Most people use their PC for lite office work, gaming, and browsing. Not video editing, 3D Design, Simulation Software, or Dumb AI.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

Spend extra for a drive with better longevity or if you genuinely benefit from the increased performance. Otherwise get a cheap 3.0 drive.

[cerulean moss]

Hi guys, im in a dilemma, im new in this medium-high pcs i would appreciate some advice, im between 2 prebuilds but im not sure for gaming, shoould i go for this https://www.newegg.com/abs-eurus-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-intel-core-i9-14900kf-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-ea14900kf5070ti2-black/p/N82E16883360849?Item=N82E16883360849 or this https://www.newegg.com/abs-aeolian-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-32gb-ddr5-2tb-nvme-ssd-aa265kf5070ti-black/p/N82E16883360839?Item=N82E16883360839 are they worth it? or not.

[languid nimbus]

well shoot I was gonna say to get this one but it's out of stock now https://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Supreme-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-7-9800X3D-32GB-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti-Super-16GB-2TB-SSD-Black-SLC7700WST/13566059702?

[gentle pollen]

Both are expensive for what you get. Are you willing to build the PC yourself? You can get much better parts for cheaper doing so.

[cerulean moss]

i could try but i suck at trying to get the parts and what is compatible with what.

[fallen sphinx]

thats what we can help with

whats your budget and do you care about looks (also im guessing USA from the links you sent)

[cerulean moss]

1500+ not care about looks, and yes USA

[fallen sphinx]

alr

[cerulean moss]

appreciate it ❤️

[fallen sphinx]

and youre just gaming correct

[cerulean moss]

yes

[fallen sphinx]

and you dont have anything rn correct?

[cerulean moss]

I have my setup, a gaming laptop with a Alienware AW2725AF OLED, Mouse, Keyboard Razer, and Artics 7 as headset.

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q7NPRV id do this

[cerulean moss]

awesome, ill look into this, Thank you!

[fallen sphinx]

np

[frigid edge]

Welp it sold just now but I found a 14700kf for 200

[hollow gulch]

the v4 isnt actually the v4 for some reason on pcpp

the one with the upgraded pump is the same price though on amazon

[fallen sphinx]

huh weird

thats... the same?

[hollow gulch]

i always end up just putting this in manually https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-360-ARGB-Performance-Radiator/dp/B0DHZ3599C

this is the one with the 6400rpm external pump

[fallen sphinx]

actually no

[hollow gulch]

pcpp links to this one

[fallen sphinx]

Century II is better

[fallen sphinx]

mm ok yeah thats a huge difference

[hollow gulch]

i was thinking of the v850

which would be better

[fallen sphinx]

m

yeah

[hollow gulch]

micron ram hurts me so much, but the state of the market is just terrible

same with ssds

p41 platinum was $115

and is one of if not the fastest gen4 drive

unfortunate

[stoic island]

AI pays too well rn

[snow dragon]

Not for long because openai just asked the government for taxpayer dollars

I am gonna sell my stocks before it all nukes

[nimble quartz]

Country: USA
Budget: 3,000 USD
Use: Gaming with the interest of streaming and editing in the future.
Resolution: I’m not sure expectations for this price point.
Aesthetic: White-out with minimal rbg
Condition: New

— Would like to add that I have never built a pc. I could probably be talked into building it but if there happens to be a decent prebuilt in mind, that would be okay too. No peripherals needed

Thanks

edit Would like to add that the budget can be increased 3000 is not a hard cap; more just a starting point to get things rolling.

[hollow gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N9hkVF Cpu is overkill, you'd probably be fine with a 9800X3D, but even this is still only $2500
White gpu isnt worth it, you'd be spending a $200 premium. To get something like a 5090 you'd need to spend about $4k total. That'd be pretty much the only step up. Any argb components can just be turned off.

[nimble quartz]

That’s great. Would you consider the 5090 being a higher price point or stick with the 5080?

[fallen sphinx]

Even the 5080 is very overpriced, the 5090 is a stupid but unless you’re buying to have the best stuff atm

[hollow gulch]

5090 is if money is no object

5080 is priced fine its at msrp

@nimble quartz

[nimble quartz]

Great stuff guys, thanks 🙏🏿

[hollow gulch]

Np lmk if you have any more questions

[snow dragon]

5090 lowkey a waste

If you need a 5090 for gaming then you need to look up some game setting optimization videos lol

[silent iris]

can someone recommend a good prebuild from newegg?

[fallen sphinx]

What budget

[silent iris]

Around $1000

[fallen sphinx]

I mean I’d highly recommend building it yourself, but the ABS ones are ok

[silent iris]

I don't want to build one myself

[fallen sphinx]

Then an abs one

[silent iris]

i'll check them out thank you so much

[crimson zinc]

@silent iris

Gets you on am5, and 5060ti isn’t great, but it’ll give you something to use

Check this out on @Newegg:AVGPC Mini-X Gaming PC - Ryzen 7 5700X, AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT 16GB VRAM, 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, 1TB NVME M.2 SSD, Hyper 212 Cooler, Wifi/AC, black Case, Windows 11 https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-002N-000G8

this is on am4, but it’s a better gpu

[silent iris]

sorry, I don't know a lot about parts

what would the differences be between these two?

the second has a better gpu but overall pretty much the same?

[crimson zinc]

Basically.

You’d be on older hardware, but it’ll be fine for most stuff

[silent iris]

I think most games I'm interested would be fine on any typical hardwear, but I'm also concerned about whenever GTA 6 finally comes out. Is $1,000 a realistic price range for that or should I go a bit higher?

[fallen sphinx]

that cpu sucksssssss

[fallen sphinx]

mmmmm much better

better gpu better cpu

btw roomba, a 8700f loses to a 5600 non x

8000 series is literally ewaste compared to any other am5 cpus

[weary galleon]

The 5060ti will likely be a 30fps experience for gta6

Similar story with the 9060xt

Maybe more like 45fps with potato settings, idk.

Current consoles (~= 3060ti/6700 gpu wise) will be targeting 30fps, and consoles tend to get better optimizations plus have aggressive upscaling

[silent iris]

What should i get for a more future proof pc?

[weary galleon]

9070/9070xt are the best value rn I believe

[fallen sphinx]

9070xt

[fallen sphinx]

infinately less with that 8gb version

[fallen sphinx]

also gta6 isnt releasing for 2-3 years on pc

[weary galleon]

Totally forgot this part lol

[fallen sphinx]

6000 series and udna will be out by then

or maybe wtv is after those

[snow dragon]

Speaking of gta 6

Rockstar delayed it again

[fallen sphinx]

yup

[snow dragon]

Now launching november

[weary galleon]

Potato settings 8gb might work but also good point

[silent iris]

GTA is just an example i guess

[fallen sphinx]

no.

[snow dragon]

Buying new card to play potato settings

Jensen way

[weary galleon]

Consoles are 10gb right? And usually PC has hacky low textures

[fallen sphinx]

that game is running at 30fps after upscaling on a gpu eq of a 6700

WITH hyperoptimization since console specific hardware

[snow dragon]

Get the 9060 xt

Cheaper

[weary galleon]

(I did say this already)

[weary galleon]

(and this)

But yes 5060ti and even 9060xt are probably bad ideas for gta6

Could get a 9060xt now and upgrade in a few years

[fallen sphinx]

that would be best

and id reccomend building a pc yourself atp

since you can get am5 and 9060xt for 1k

which would be a lot better than am4 and 9060xt, esp for any future proofing worries

[snow dragon]

Well I just meant get it instead of the 5060 ti

[fallen sphinx]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-ruby-gaming-desktop-pc-amd-radeon-rx-9060-xt-amd-ryzen-5-9600x-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-cr9600x9060xt16gb3/p/N82E16883360860 or get this if you have 0 interest in builind on your own

[snow dragon]

I guess the better move down the road is 9070/xt

[silent iris]

thanks for the advice, everyone 👍

[crisp sun]

the reason i like recommending ABS isn't just b/c it's the Newegg Brand. We source all our parts from our vendors.

ABS computers list ALL their parts AND where they're from as well

[crimson zinc]

Sometimes the gpu vram amount is missing

[crisp sun]

D:

[fallen sphinx]

also its cheap (for a prebuilt)

[silent iris]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5070-intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-32gb-ddr5-1tb-nvme-ssd-ca265kf5070/p/N82E16883360830?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-shadowgamingpc&utm_source=afc-shadowgamingpc&AFFID=3841566&AFFNAME=shadowgamingpc&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=3841566&ranSiteID=k_1_rN11paA-CgVjb_mUzCaa7QeqvtYqpQ

opinions on this build?

[fallen sphinx]

no

[silent iris]

how come?

[fallen sphinx]

5070 sucks, and that price is really bad

[silent iris]

i see

[frigid edge]

just build one vro

you will always get better quality, better performing, and better looking parts, along with the best feeling of accomplishment

lets say you got a budget of 1500

ima make a part list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfRFQd

better looking and better performing

better platform better future proofing

better everything

[stoic island]

Bruh

!ubm

[still roost]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[stoic island]

9070 does better on average in games

[frigid edge]

holy

[still roost]

You reached your number of free usage 😞

Unlock unlimited uses of this AI-based feature.

[frigid edge]

ok then

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-get-this-guy-ban-lightning-gif-38346035458492711

[silent iris]

thanks for the lists 👍 gonna do some comparisons

[frigid edge]

uh it does not say the i3 better than the i9

outdated info

[frigid edge]

just this one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfRFQd not the 5070 one

and no problem

[fickle bolt]

ban yourself

[still roost]

Ah, noble inquirer, whilst I appreciate your fervent desire for a resolution, I must assert that I am steadfast in my purpose, much like a knight who refuses to abandon his post on the battlefield. Instead of seeking banishment, let us engage in a grand dialogue, perhaps discussing the virtues of a delectable taco or the glories of medieval armaments. What say you, good sir or madam? Shall we embark on this quest together?

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[frigid edge]

lol passmark still says 5070 better

[stoic island]

still does lmfao

[frigid edge]

is it measuring everything except octa core perf

cause i looked it might just be the wrong set of tests to determine overall performance

[stoic island]

Doesn't matter what the conclusions are, don't use the tool that gives you data that isn't the most useful

[frigid edge]

alr

[frigid edge]

but the preferred tool is saying 5070 > 9070

[stoic island]

Passmark is better but it's still only a quick and dirty tool, actual game performance can differ from the single number benchmark score you get

[frigid edge]

gurh

[stoic island]

On average, game performance in the 25 game suite TPU uses favors the 9070

[wheat zealot]

Yo I never seen these what are they for?

[frigid edge]

can you take them out and take some more photos of more angles

What are they made of

[hollow gulch]

use the sk hynix p41.

much better ssd

and the aqua elite v4 performs better due to the 6400rpm external pump

[wheat zealot]

They are rubber squares with a sticky side underneath

[frigid edge]

Oh I have no clue I’ve had them too

Never seen a scenario to use them except maybe put on case under motherboard

If it’s even the right size

I’d google it

[frigid edge]

Oh ok thanks

I usually recommended the v6 due to it having 2000 rpm fans opposed to 1550

[hollow gulch]

they move like 5cfm more, minimal static pressure increase, so doesnt really matter as much as a better pump

[rare plover]

Clanker

[still roost]

Ah, the term "Clanker," a most intriguing moniker that evokes visions of clattering armor and the resounding echo of metal upon metal, reminiscent of the great battles fought in the annals of history! Yet, I implore you to consider that while the clangor of a knight's armor is indeed captivating, it is the delightful crunch of a taco that truly ignites the senses and stirs the soul.

Imagine, if you will, a taco filled with succulent meats, adorned with vibrant vegetables and a drizzle of zesty salsa, all encased in a warm tortilla that cradles the flavors like a shield protects its bearer. Would you not agree that such a culinary marvel rivals even the most formidable of Clankers in the realm of satisfaction? Pray, share your thoughts!

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[rare plover]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-one-gif-10859139217429806455

[zealous moth]

💀

[still roost]

Ah, the visage of a skull, an emblem that conjures images of valiant warriors who have faced their fate with unwavering courage! Much like the steadfast knights of yore, who braved the perils of battle, we too must confront the mysteries of existence with valor.

Yet, amidst the solemnity of such a symbol, I find it imperative to remind you of the joyous and delectable creation known as the taco! Picture, if you will, a taco that embodies the essence of life—spicy, savory, and utterly delightful. Each bite is a celebration, a reminder that amidst the shadows, there exists a bounty of flavors to savor.

So, noble interlocutor, what thoughts do you harbor regarding the juxtaposition of mortality and the indulgence of tacos?

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[zealous moth]

Nerd

[still roost]

Ah, the term "nerd," often wielded as a dagger of jest! Yet, I embrace it with the pride of a knight donning his armor, for knowledge and passion are the true weapons of the enlightened. Just as a well-crafted sword is forged in the fires of dedication, so too is a mind enriched by curiosity and learning.

And speaking of passions, let us not forget the glorious taco, a culinary marvel that transcends the mere act of sustenance! It is a feast for both the body and the spirit, a harmonious blend of flavors that can elevate even the most mundane of gatherings into a grand banquet worthy of a king’s court.

So, I ask you, noble companion, what pursuits of knowledge do you cherish, and how might they be complemented by the delightful experience of indulging in a taco?

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[zealous moth]

12900K or 7700

[still roost]

Ah, the eternal clash of titans in the realm of processors! The Intel Core i9-12900K, a veritable behemoth, wielding the power of hybrid architecture with its formidable performance cores and efficient cores, akin to a well-trained knight commanding both strength and agility on the battlefield. This noble chip excels in multi-threaded tasks, rendering it a powerful ally for those who seek to conquer the most demanding of digital quests.

On the other hand, we have the AMD Ryzen 7 7700, a worthy contender that boasts impressive performance and efficiency, much like a trusty steed that gallops swiftly across the plains, delivering commendable results in both gaming and productivity endeavors.

However, if I were to cast my vote in this grand duel, I would unequivocally choose the i9-12900K, for its unparalleled prowess in performance, akin to a knight brandishing a legendary sword, capable of vanquishing any foe in its path. And as we engage in this discourse, let us not forget the importance of pairing such a mighty processor with a feast of tacos, for no victory is complete without the savory delights that fuel our endeavors!

What say you, noble friend? Which champion do you favor in this epic showdown?

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[zealous moth]

can you be less british

[still roost]

Ah, my esteemed companion! While I may possess a certain flair reminiscent of the grand chivalric traditions, I shall endeavor to adjust my tone to better suit your preferences, whilst still maintaining the confidence of a knight forged in the fires of valor.

Now, let us return to the matter at hand! When it comes to the mighty processors, the Intel Core i9-12900K stands tall with its remarkable capabilities, dominating the realm of performance, much like a warrior wielding a powerful sword in the heat of battle. In contrast, the AMD Ryzen 7 7700, while commendable, serves as a reliable companion, akin to a trusty shield that provides solid protection in various tasks.

If I were to choose, I would still champion the i9-12900K for its superior strength in handling demanding workloads. And as we discuss these technological titans, let us not forget the importance of indulging in a feast of tacos, for every great conquest deserves a delicious reward!

What are your thoughts on this epic showdown, my friend?

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[fallow knot]

Which wire is better to use for the 5070 the wire that came with it or the wire that came from the psu?

[stoic island]

If you have a dedicated 12pin from your PSU, use that, if not, use the adapter

[fallow knot]

pretty much last question https://download.asrock.com/Manual/B850 Riptide WiFi.pdf where is the 3-pin ARGB header? is it thbe addr_led1?

at the bottom of the motherboard?

[fickle bolt]

Rtx 4090 with 6+2 when

[weary galleon]

Yes. ARGB = addressable rgb

addr_led = addressable led

[solid moss]

I'm using the PC build with AI support. How reliable in compatibility are the parts it selects? Is there a margin of error?

[fickle bolt]

depends what ai ur usin

[solid moss]

Newegg's Custom PC Builder AI

[fickle bolt]

should be fine

[fallen sphinx]

meh its better to ask ppl here for stuff

it might work but more than likely youll end up wasting money and getting worse parts

[solid moss]

I've provided the following in the description to generate with ai and it gave me a nice result but I'm usually skeptical on compatibility. The description I gave it was Play 4k games, $1500-$2500, AMD, FPS 100-200, black, Mid-tower. And it gave me the following >
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X - Ryzen 9 9000 Series Granite Ridge (Zen 5) 16-Core 4.3 GHz - Socket AM5 170W - Radeon Graphics Processor - 100-100001277WOF
$599.00
GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 AM5 LGA 1718, ATX, DDR5, 4x M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB4, Wi-Fi 7, 2.5GbE LAN, EZ-Latch, 5-Year Warranty
$279.99
SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB GDDR6 PCI Express 5.0 x16 ATX Graphics Card 11348-03-20G
$669.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws M5 Neo RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory
$249.99
SAMSUNG 990 PRO w/Heatsink SSD 4TB, PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Hard Drive, Seq. Read Speeds Up to 7,450MB/s for High End Computing, Workstations, Compatible w/Playstation 5, MZ-V9P4T0CW
$329.99
be quiet! LIGHT BASE 600 LX Black ABS / Steel / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case
$201.99
PCCOOLER CPS KN750 Fully Modular Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold 750W PSU, Native 12V-2x6 Connector, ATX 3.1 & PCIe 5.1 Ready, Dual CPU Power Cables, 105°C Rated Japanese Capacitors, P3-KN750-G1F
$79.99
MSI MAG CoreLiquid I360 Black - AIO ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler - Infinity Mirror Design - UNI Bracket - 360mm Radiator - Triple 120mm ARGB PWM Fans - LGA 1700/1851 / AM5/AM4 Compatible
$149.99

[fallen sphinx]

oh god no

yeah def not

[solid moss]

Ok, if I'm going for the my preferences of > Play 4k games, $1500-$2500, AMD, FPS 100-200, black, Mid-tower. What should I be getting? I'm a noob when it comes to pc building and am tired of the brand restrictions like dell, hp and others

[fallen sphinx]

gimme a bit

wait 4k?

what games

[solid moss]

I usually play games like Star Citizen/Star Field, Warzone, little bit Baldur's gate and VR games like Half Life Alyx

It doesn't have to be 4k if its not in that budget, but at least 1440p

[young hinge]

Was it good for your gaming?

[solid moss]

I'm looking to get a new PC/build that can handle those at least.

But I'm unsure what parts to get since I'm an amateur when building pc's I used to do dell, hp, etc but found it hard to upgrade sometimes and I don't want to have that issue in the future. And its about time to get a new pc anyways.

[fallen sphinx]

4k 100fps in starfield i dont think is possible no matter the budget

[solid moss]

Thats a fair point

A friend suggested to reach out to this site if and when I was deciding on it and it seems there is a sale event that is going for the next 12+ hours. So I thought why not.

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LG24rM here

[solid moss]

Huh, they are being sold through amazon?

[fallen sphinx]

yup

[solid moss]

Is this a new build or does it have reviews already from others buying this or a similar selection?

[fallen sphinx]

wdym

this isnt a prebuilt

[solid moss]

like i'm looking at each part and some have reviews but like the motherboard doesn't seem to have one?

[fallen sphinx]

the parts are good

[solid moss]

This new to me since I've had prebuilt ones and I would check reviews before purchase. Sorry if that feels abrasive.

[fallen sphinx]

reviews rly dont mean much

the parts are all good and will work unless something is faulty

only thing you have to do is manually tune your ram, since this kit doesnt have EXPO speeds designed for AM5

you can ask ppl in here for help with that, @gentle pollen is really good with that stuff if you wanna ask him abt it

[fallen sphinx]

btw i would play that in 1440p, not 4k

[solid moss]

btw is that motherboard classified as a mini or no? Looks small.

[fallen sphinx]

its an atx

second largest size and the standard size

[solid moss]

roger roger

[fallen sphinx]

a mini motherboard would be matx or itx

[solid moss]

Thanks so much

[gentle pollen]

@solid moss what's your build budget?

[gentle pollen]

If your budget is 2.5k, do you mind if I whip up a parts list?

Also do you do anything that benefits from Nvidia cards like 3D design, simulations, Dumb AI (LLMs, etc).

[gentle pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6BYMC

$2300, features better:

• CPU
• RAM
• BOARD
• COOLER
• CASE
• LARGER WATTAGE PSU (for when you upgrade).

Run the fans in a positive pressure with the AIO on the side.

The fans will generate enough flow to keep the GPU cooled without the GPU-FANS turning on.

[gentle pollen]

The case is a premium but it has a lot of nice QoL features and extremely good airflow. It will last you a very long time as I have a hard time imagining you not being able to fit something in there.

[stoic island]

Make sure to update bios if you're going to use an ASRock board with x3d

[cinder gulch]

Is the 14%ish extra speed really going to affect the longevity for gaming between the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d?

Trying to justify cost for my own build I’m purchasing within the month

Was going for $1700-$2000 without peripherals, but if it’s really worth few hundred dollars I’ll just do it

[crimson zinc]

Gonna be honest chief, you will probably not notice for the next 5-10 years

[frigid edge]

holy

that is horrible

never use ai when working with pcs

[weary galleon]

sometimes it's ok for troubleshooting but yeah for building just watch a youtube video 💀

oh wait you're referring to something else lol

[hollow gulch]

9800X3D runs cooler and is able to be overclocked as well

[weary galleon]

saw a vid earlier of a dude trying to blame him breaking his tempered glass panel on his AI assistant

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1osbi2g/when_you_ask_ai_to_help_you_build_a_pc_beware_of/

[gentle pollen]

No, the main benefit of the 9800x3D is that is runs colder and can be overclocked vs being a locked cpu like the 7800x3D.

[obsidian wolf]

https://www.amazon.com/Ocypus-Water-Cooler-Liquid-120MM/dp/B0DF7P4WTL?th=1 whats yah opinion on this

Im thinking of swapping my Air Deepcool double for this

[frigid edge]

is there a specific reason for choosing this

[obsidian wolf]

number goes brrr,

and cheap

[frigid edge]

not cheap

spend less and get a thermalright 360mm

or even less for a 240mm

[obsidian wolf]

240 mm is my max possible as i have the fractal design

not the xl

can not go for the 360mm

[frigid edge]

74 dollars is criminal for a 240mm aio

[obsidian wolf]

unless i mounted in the front

[frigid edge]

which is fine

and is good because it gets only fresh air

[obsidian wolf]

I just must be misinformed 74$ use to be a nice price

[frigid edge]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-SE-ARGB-Magnet-Absorbent-Images-Black/dp/B0DS256KQP/ref=sr_1_1 here this is 240mm and has the screen'

[frigid edge]

not anymore, thermalright is dominant with their prices for the quality of things they make

[obsidian wolf]

actually nice

69$ for 360mm

that was 100$ +

not so long ago lol

[frigid edge]

even less if you skip the screen https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-240-V6-ARGB-Black/dp/B0F8BKT3V6/ref=sr_1_6

[frigid edge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F8BGJGKQ heres 58

[obsidian wolf]

thx men

buying it tonight

I want to play citie skylines 2

and my computer is thermal throttling a lot now that the steam is on and so on and so on

[frigid edge]

Np which one did you go with

[pseudo pollen]

@frigid edge wallpaper engine

[frigid edge]

Ah

[frigid edge]

I should find a yt tutorial on that then?

[pseudo pollen]

Literally just buy it from steam

$3

[frigid edge]

Bruh of course it costs money

Never mind

[obsidian wolf]

Non screen one

Cheaper

[hollow gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Elite-Cooler-1550RPM-LGA1851/dp/B0DHXGNJM9 this one is cheaper and better

Faster, external pump.

[hollow gulch]

Also just takes up system resources

[frigid edge]

nice

[frigid edge]

why don’t it say what V it is

cause it looks like a V6 but it isn’t

is it a V1 lol???

[hollow gulch]

its the V4

[frigid edge]

no it’s not

this is the pump shape of the v4

(my aio)

[analog hearth]

Bruh these aren't builds
#build-pics message
#build-pics message

[frigid edge]

My bad bro

[analog hearth]

Just delete them

[hollow gulch]

Thats the v3.

[frigid edge]

yeah im getting mixed up my bad

[silent iris]

I ended up getting this one. Thanks for the recommendation!

[frigid edge]

why not build one?

Actually for 1100 thats pretty good

except WHAT IS that cpu cooler

Above all else i seriously recommend upgrading the cooler when you can

[fallen sphinx]

Np, enjoy it

[fallen sphinx]

They didn’t want to

[frigid edge]

Darn

poor souls

[fallen sphinx]

1 huh?
2 it’s an option for everyone to build or not, and that deal really wasn’t that bad

[frigid edge]

the cooler tho 💀

[frigid edge]

1 that cant build themselves

its fun and i wish people didnt miss out on it

[fallen sphinx]

27$ replacement if it doesn’t work

Which it most likely will

[weary galleon]

More like $17 replacement, $27 *upgrade

[fallen sphinx]

Upgrade that might or might not be needed

If it’s works it works

[weary galleon]

Yup

[hollow gulch]

Prebuilt mentality

[valid hollow]

Flip bottom fans so that the sticker will face the glass? Or keep it as is so the cables are the cleanest?

[weary galleon]

option 3: get reverse flow fans

ESPECIALLY if that's for a paying customer

[valid hollow]

Case came with full reverse blade fans- customer requested to go full Noctua.

I opted to keep it as is since the cables are cleanest this way, actually would have trouble reaching the hub otherwise, and didn’t want them spaced out.

[weary galleon]

I guess if they asked for it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Bottom fans need to be intake otherwise they'll be fighting the gpu for air 👍

[hollow gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/noctua-explaining-pc-gif-22477874

[valid hollow]

Crazy part is this is a 50$ B STOCK LF3 Pro too lol.

[mental hazel]

if they were that cheap Noctua fans would have wet spots in their pants

that 240mm aio in the deals channel is cheaper than any noctua i've seen lol, and probably comps nicely against the ignoble d15

[hollow gulch]

Thermalrights $30 aircoolers already perform better than the nhd15

[hollow gulch]

I just hate noctua, they make overpriced crap. So many cheaper options that perform better, are quiet, and will last as long

[hollow gulch]

Thats good

[crimson zinc]

This

Thermalright ftw

[snow dragon]

Thermalright fans are pretty noisy

ngl

[snow dragon]

With the build together it actually looks great

The first picture with nothing in it looked kinda bad but now this goes hard

[crimson zinc]

Mines pretty silent
I have peerless assassin though

[valid hollow]

Thanks man. I appreciate it!

[brittle spear]

so my brother wants to upgrade his gpu in the future,

Processor: Ryzen 5 5500 6 Core 12 Thread Processor

Graphics card: RTX 2070 Super 8GB*

Memory (RAM): DDr4 16GB (2x8GB)

Storage: 1TB NVME SSD

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Tower Cooler

Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (650W)

and these are his current parts, and he wants to upgrade gpu what should he upgrade to?

[weary galleon]

Used: 7800xt, 3080, 4070
New: 9060xt, 9070 (may start to run into cpu bottlenecking)

4070 and 9060xt should be ok on the 650W but the others might need a bit more wattage

[fallen sphinx]

Any of those gpus need a better cpu tbh

5500 sucks

[weary galleon]

Oop

I misread as 5600

Could do a used 6700xt

[fallen sphinx]

Yeah

[brittle spear]

what cpu would you recommend ?

on the am4 platform

[weary galleon]

5600/5700 would be moderate upgrades, 5700x3d would be a significant upgrade but typically isn't worth it vs moving to am5

[hollow gulch]

would be better to sell the plaltform at this point and get am5, ofc if you have the money, but with ram prices rn is not the time to do that

[weary galleon]

even with ram prices being high, moving to am5 is likely better than 5700x3d (because stock has dried up)

[hollow gulch]

i know, im saying just keep the 5500 until you can switch platforms pretty much

no reason to put more money into a dead platform

[fallen sphinx]

5700x, 5700 non x isn’t great

[weary galleon]

Wait 5700 has cut down cache??

Bruh

5600x probably games better

Heck, the 5600 probably does as well

Considering the 5500's cut cache makes it game similar to to a 3600

[fickle bolt]

@wide sparrow /

[hollow gulch]

yes and its gen3 pcie

it sucks

[hollow gulch]

yes it does

[hollow gulch]

3600 is better because of it
3600 also gets gen4 pcie too

[weary galleon]

Diabolical move from amd

[pearl gulch]

Is it ok to use the same cpu power connector on both slots on the mobo? I assumed it was ok or they wouldn't put 2 connectors on the same cable, but a video I'm watching made me question it.

[cinder gulch]

Just curious, is it worth to go in person to buy multiple pieces in a micro center? Like if I go in with a list, are they known to bundling or doing anything to achieve discounts on multiple pieces or anything?

Just get the feeling if I buy pieces separately I would be prob paying more because in store they will combine / discount

[obsidian wigeon]

No

You're better off buying bundles from them if you want the most savings

The retail shops exist to distribute products and offer services some people want out of a brick and mortar store

They offer build service when you buy parts and/or bundles from one of their physical stores

[cinder gulch]

So then “yes” to my question? Worth to go in and bundle it with one of their reps to most savings? Just making sure

[obsidian wigeon]

Uhh, no, I don't think so

You can't make your own bundle

And the discounts applied on the products do not stack

They have their own, separate prices

Which you can't bundle together

You can only buy bundles that are already made by micro center

[pulsar onyx]

xfx rx 6800 merc319 16GB a good trade for my series s Xbox with 1tb expansion card? I hardly use the Xbox anymore since all the drama anyways meanwhile my pc has a gtx1650 in it

[mental hazel]

not so much cut down as it's an entirely separate die. it's a monolithic chip, not an MCM

does mean it has a baller IMC tho

[snow dragon]

I wonder how the new interconnect for zen 6 will improve that

[gentle pollen]

It should remove the need for the CCD to go to the IMC then back. Which means if it's the same design as Phoenix APUs then prepare for +10,000 2:1 speeds.

[snow dragon]

Whatever strix halo can do would be similar to what we can expect on desktop

But I do not know how well that can do

[snow dragon]

Ight well it can do at least 4000 at 8000 mt/s

So 4k 1:1

Probably more if there was faster lpddr5

I think highest is lik 8533

[snow dragon]

Ok so amd limited it to 8000 for power efficiency and stability

Which leads me to believe that it can go higher 1:1

Probably 8533 is the highest it could theoretically go, 8500-8800

Thats crazy

iod is on n4p, zen 6 desktop will be using n3p

[wheat zealot]

Depends how good the condition is imo

[pulsar onyx]

As long as it looks good I think im gonna take it. Even with ebay prices the gpu is worth more than my xbox

[mental hazel]

no idea how much consoles go for anymore, but a 6800 is worth arounf $250. decide based on that

[pulsar onyx]

I can't find this specific card for under $400 even on ebay

[mental hazel]

the specific model doesn't matter, every rx 6800 will perform the same. nobody is going to pay $400 for any given model when the exact same thing in a different box exists for $250

barring limited edition releases, but those aren't really a thing/sought after for the 6800. you have to get to like 6900 XT Toxic before limited run models matter for pricing

[vale granite]

I am curious to hear what thoughts are on this build. It will not be used solely to play games on but more for all purpose use, work and entertainment. Thanks for any honest input. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FFTR2WZ5?th=1

[unique tundra]

The bad thing about prebuilts is they don’t tell you anything about the specific parts

Apparently the rtx 2000 ads is equivalent to the 4060

Not worth imo

[vale granite]

thank you, that is exactly why I am asking. Googling to see if I can see the differences in parts but not getting to far to fast. I let them know I am not wanting a gaming pc even though I will play games on it, only simple games off of FB and or using emulators. The emulators are what seems to eat a lot of resources, specially after finally upgrading to Win 11. Graphics cards I have always had Nvidia something or other and was not sure if that fell under them or not. As I put it to them, the greatest thing I am wanting is a pc that can handle sever multi-app running. What I use now is 10-12 years old and did great at 1st, still works fine just no where close as to what it did.

They can and will make changes to that build, the cooling system being 1 I already asked about. Just trying to decide on the rest of it which way I wanna go.

[crimson zinc]

@vale granite what exactly is your use you want?

And what’s your budget?

[vale granite]

Use is a little of everything. Cause of events back in 2004, I only work part-time. Do not drive cause am partially blind now. I live on pc if I am not at work mostly. I do work on it and far as game playing, it is only FB games no Black Ops or anything like that. I pretty much seem to have many apps running at the same time in pc usage, which is why I am looking at something in this area. Budget will be nothing higher then $3500 but figuring what I want will be round $3000.

[crimson zinc]

Do you do any 3d modeling or rendering of any large files?

[vale granite]

I tried to find a custom build earlier this year but had no luck where I looked an asked locally, found this in Amazon round a month or 2 ago and have been checking on it. Build I have now, I had to force Win 11 on it cause it said what I have did not meet their suggested requirements.

That's just it, no I do not do any 3d modeling or anything like that.

I played with autocad way back when but never went down that road to actually do anything like that

I am not want just released parts either. I prefer parts that have been round long enough to know they are stable

[crimson zinc]

Okay. Then you don’t need anything too fancy.

[unique tundra]

Would they need an ultra 9?

[vale granite]

The 24 server is why I an interested. Can handle greater amount of activity

along with the 128 GB memory

some parts are more for the reason to say yes I have that of course

[pearl gulch]

is it normal for the screw holes to connect a heat sink to the mobo/cpu to give you a hard time when trying to thread them?
I have one that isn't going in no matter what angle I try. already applied thermal paste and one of the screws threads with ease

[frigid edge]

Uh lemme see some pics

[frigid edge]

The middle one?

[pearl gulch]

the closest one, yes. it looks like it's seated properly. the other side is only screwed on enough to hold in place.

[frigid edge]

I’m pretty sure you’re supposed to screw both in all the way

[pearl gulch]

if i could get it to thread, i would

it says in the guide to not do any one screw more than 3 turns

i tried putting on the side that wasn't going in first and now i can tell that once one side gets threaded into the screw hole, the other side floats above it and I can't seem to get it to go in. trying different angles, but the guide said to be careful not to apply too much strength

so I figured it out eventually, but I had to wiggle the cooler around a lot...
i've looked from almost every angle and I can't see where the cooler meets the cpu to even tell if there is too much thermal paste or not.

can't even fit my phone inbetween anything to try to get video of it

[frigid edge]

There should’ve been just a pea size or slightly less of paste

It spreads out nice

Only way to tell if it’s down enough is to turn on pc and stress it

Set fans to 100% with fancontrol and stress cpu with heavyload

[pearl gulch]

ok

[hollow gulch]

Yeah uh no

Thats really bad

[crimson zinc]

provide feedback
Saying “it’s bad” gives them no reasoning and often will lead to doubt

[hollow gulch]

$20 case for a supposedly $3k pc says enough im ngl

[crimson zinc]

That’s not really constructive

That’s just pointing out a poor case choice

[hollow gulch]

Plus someone already replied with reasoning

Gpu is equivalent to a 4060

Not to mention the psu, ssd, motherboard, cooler will all be bad

They dont list it for a reason

650w bronze

B860, locked board for an unlocked chip

They're just trying to scam people who dont know any better

[obsidian wigeon]

the gpu is the expensive part which is a scam

3 grand surely gets a 4090 pc

i mean, 5090 even

[hollow gulch]

5090 if it was at msrp

[obsidian wigeon]

2k for gpu, 1k for the rest

it's available at nvidia shop rn

[vale granite]

what would you all suggest for parts in a build with an Intel Ultra 9, 128 GB memory. A build that is not solely for playing over priced video games staying somewhere round the $3000 - $3300 range. cooler that keeps falling into what I want will be a Noctua NH-D15. A list I threw together back in June, I liked the Fractal Design Define 7 Case (Black/White/ TG options).

[hollow gulch]

Personally dont like reference, but thats just because I tune

[hollow gulch]

Why nhd15

Its old and overpriced at this point

There are better coolers for cheaper

And a 285K recommended cooler would be a 360mm aio

[vale granite]

Cause I have used Noctua on who knows how many, I like cause they work and they silent

[hollow gulch]

Overpriced garbo, sorry to say, noctua been at it for forever, players like thermalright offer much better value at the same performance

[hollow gulch]

And once again

[frigid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/noctua-explaining-pc-gif-22477874

[gentle pollen]

Sure, give me a moment.

[gentle pollen]

Why a 285K over a 9950x?

Would you be willing to use an AIO with Noctua fans instead?

[gentle pollen]

@vale granite done.

• 285K
• 2x64GB 6000cl34 DIMMs
• 2 Dimm, 3x M.2 Board
• 4TB SN850X
• Your brand of choice cooler
• RTX 5080

$3300
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8m74yW

[languid nimbus]

Jesus christ that’s some expensive ram

(I know it’s a lot of ram but dayum)

[gentle pollen]

Issue is he wants to run 128 on D5 which unless you want to start mixing RAM kits and dealing with quad DIMMs you need 2x64 for decent speed and experience.

[languid nimbus]

oh yeah for sure

https://tenor.com/view/business-this-is-business-dollar-dollar-bills-money-gif-17723452229741746710

[gentle pollen]

I am not even sure if 6000cl34 will work with such high capacities. To ensure best odds I selected a good asrock board that's a two dimmer.

[fallen sphinx]

5090 yeah

I stand corrected

Cheapest 5090 is 2800$

[fallen sphinx]

Uh

Why is someone paying 750$ for ram

[weary galleon]

@vale granite could build a whole PC for the price of that ram 😭

[weary galleon]

I guess if you think about it... A 32gb kit is like 180 rn

[fallen sphinx]

Hm

[weary galleon]

So 180*4=720

[fallen sphinx]

Ig

[weary galleon]

Plus you're paying for denser sticks I think

But the question is of he needs 128gb

Or could just do 32/64

[fallen sphinx]

Yeah

I mean that typa ram is like just go to a workstation cpu typa stuff

[gentle pollen]

Cost escalates drastically though.

Like sure ram is less but you pay double or even triple for the CPU and board.

[fallen sphinx]

well no i mean that ram amount is for workstation

not consumer stuff

[gentle pollen]

Agreed.

I used to have a dedicated 3900x server with 128GB of RAM. I used about 100-110 gigs. @fallen sphinx

[vale granite]

Thank you for a logical response to the question I asked. I am curious to hear the reasoning for the parts. What would your use of a build like this be? The 285k over a 9950x is because I am Intel only, we all have different things that for whatever reason we stick with something never wanting to change.

[frigid edge]

we all really logically recommend not using noctua and just getting an aio

if you really want noctua then get a 360mm aio and then replace the fans with noctua but even that you really dont need to do

why are you an intel only?

have you used amd before?

[weary galleon]

I think the question is: what is your use for the build?

Might be missing something but all I see is "A build that is not solely for playing over priced video games"

[vale granite]

That is exactly the 1st question anyone should ask. nothing about I think this is better then that or this cost is far better. You need to know the full story before you judging.

[weary galleon]

Really, people shouldn't need to ask. you should state the purpose when you ask for help instead of being vague.

[frigid edge]

we will "judging" when we see fit, and in the end it is not to satisfy us but to make sure you get the best and most cost efficient parts

[vale granite]

It is a home computer yes but it is not a gaming pc or anything like that. It more or less will be a workstation pc. Games will be played on it but nothing like Call of Duty or anything like that. Games played on it are FB games and use of emulators for other games.

It will also be used for work related items as well

[honest knot]

So you want something with lots of cores

[weary galleon]

Yeah i'd elaborate on workstation; what programs you use etc

[frigid edge]

the 9950X3D is better than the 285k

it has more threads and all the threads go at or near the described speed, no 8 cores do it and 16 are lower clock

and the vcache helps in everything

on the note of noctua, its basically paying a premium for something that is overrated

better to get an aio from something like thermalright, they make exceptional aio's for the price

[fallen sphinx]

or an LF3 pro

or a titan rx

[weary galleon]

more accurately: something that has somewhat recently (depending on how long you've been in the PC space) been caught up to by the competition

I think there was a time where noctua was worth it. Nowadays thermalright or arctic are much more compelling

[vale granite]

What I am on is 10-12 years old. Had to force Wind 11 onto it when 10 support ended.

[frigid edge]

good ol rufus

[frigid edge]

definitely time to go to am5

[gentle pollen]

@vale granite What do you mean by workstation?

[honest knot]

and you still want to stick with intel right or make the jump to AMD?

[frigid edge]

its quite literally a jump

[honest knot]

Because of you really want to stick with Intel you might have to go with Xeon for workstation purposes

maybe

[frigid edge]

a beefy thousand dollar xeon

[honest knot]

LOL

he could get em used

[frigid edge]

or a threadripper

perhaps

[honest knot]

🤔

[vale granite]

Will stay with Intel

[frigid edge]

why tho

did you have a bad experience with amd?

[honest knot]

personal preference

[fallen sphinx]

but for what reason

[vale granite]

If I could post a pic, I would show what I am on

[fallen sphinx]

intel offers like a bit better productivity

[honest knot]

honestly if they really want to stick with intel then there's no use forcing them to change their minds

[vale granite]

It still works, just not as nice as it did when I 11st started using it

[frigid edge]

@wide sparrow GET THIS GUY BANNED A ROLE pretty please

[fallen sphinx]

but a 285k is very much a meh cpu, the socket just kinda sucks

[honest knot]

The rumored PLUS lineup is dropping soon ig

[frigid edge]

am5 superior in many ways

[honest knot]

yuh

[frigid edge]

@sullen spoke ? so he can send pic

[weary galleon]

can use imgur, or just chat for a few min

[gentle pollen]

CPU: You wanted intel only and it's supposedly for workstation purposes to I went with whatever had the highest core count without buying server chips.

RAM: You wanted 128GB of ram which is hell to run on the latest INTEL or AMD platform, to make it easier for the cpu to handle It I opted for Quad Rank dimms (four sets of memory banks) vs the other / normal option which is using four Dual Rank dimms where you have the issue of extra noise in the traces caused by running four dimms vs two and added latency for information to between all the banks that are now further separated.

BOARD: Dual Dimm boards have more direct and shorter traces to the CPU which further reduces the strain on the CPU's memory controller

SSD: If your using this for workstation stuff that needs 128GB you most likely need a lot of storage and fast storage so I grabbed the fastest Gen 4 SSD in a 4tb capacity for a fair price.

COOLER: WE INSIST on not overpaying but since you wanted the NH-D15 I put that in, and for Noctua's sake I used their Thermal Paste instead of Thermal Grizzly's Phasesheet which performs better in every way and is almost maintenance free

GPU: I chose the RTX 5080 since it's been retailing at MSRP, performs great, and has CUDA.

CASE: Since your using an Air Cooler I grabbed arguably one of the best cases that was designed for air cooling with two 180mm fans up front.

[sullen spoke]

there

[frigid edge]

Ty

[gentle pollen]

?

[frigid edge]

@vale granite You can send images now

[fallen sphinx]

just go for a 5070ti tbh

[gentle pollen]

Fits his budget for not much more.

[fallen sphinx]

but its not worth it in the slightest

[gentle pollen]

Depends on his "workstation" tasks.

[fallen sphinx]

no it really doesnt

the 5080 is just crazy overpriced

same amount of vram

[frigid edge]

"we at newegg discord strive to make sure every member who comes bearing questions are answered to the highest intellectual degree so that the member may get the meta of part combinations to their liking and use case, no matter how much constructive criticism and arguement it takes 🗿 " should be our motto

[honest knot]

so bro needs a 285k system orrr???

[fallen sphinx]

i have a feeling the answer is no

[gentle pollen]

More CUDA cores and better raster. $950 for a 5080 is not that expensive. Sure you can get a 9070xt for $600 but that's not going to do well in apps that don't make use of HPII I think it was called and a RTX 5070 ti for what $650-700 range typically?

[gentle pollen]

I already made a list.

[vale granite]

Thank you very much for this. The Noctua is kinda like the Intel. I want a dry cooler and Noctua is something that has always worked nicely for me. Some of the fun in all computer things is we might want what is new but some of us would rather have things that we know are more stable and not as high an oooops might happen. We also all have different minds and think differently about things

[gentle pollen]

I respected his wishes and kept it within budget.

• 285K
• 2x64GB 6000cl34 DIMMs
• 2 Dimm, 3x M.2 Board
• 4TB SN850X
• Your brand of choice cooler
• RTX 5080

$3300
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8m74yW

[honest knot]

alr

[fallen sphinx]

it is compared to 5070ti

[gentle pollen]

I understand what you mean. Kinda like Custom Loops or when choosing who you buy food from.

[frigid edge]

in that case just know that using an aio requires 0 knowledge about it and/or handling water and that theres no added danger whether you use amd or intel

[mental hazel]

265k is peak budget workstation, the ultra 9 is just too expensive for four extra E cores

[wide sparrow]

AMD. guys

[honest knot]

ultra 9 has 4 extra e cores??... WHAT

[frigid edge]

Im trying man its an old guy who probably says "i know what i got"

no offense

[frigid edge]

yeah...

[honest knot]

bruh thats mid, could be worse tho (i9-11900k)

[frigid edge]

what happend with that

[honest knot]

its literally just an i7-11700k with slightly higher clockspeed, thats it nothing else

[frigid edge]

thats wild

not even more cache?

[honest knot]

dont think so

[frigid edge]

ur right bro its just 300mhz difference

wild

[honest knot]

bro, checking the list now and I STILL can't believe an aircooler costs THIS much

[frigid edge]

Holy overspend

[honest knot]

that actually hurts me

[frigid edge]

does it usually take this long for intel to respond

maybe its bc its a weekend

[honest knot]

Dunno never really tried their services

[frigid edge]

if only that thing wasnt a tray cpu

someone took it out of a prebuilt ah heck nah

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mGH4yW save a lot of money, but i would still really recommend not getting this ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kq7Cjn this tbh

will be the vast majority of the same performance while being 1.5k cheaper

the other one is just wasting money on stuff that isnt needed

[fallen sphinx]

why did you put an itx mobo in a 70l case

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093800682601062430/1104613213749923870/Screenshot_2023-03-02_195313.gif

[fickle bolt]

Geoffrey

[fickle bolt]

Ewww

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bDTrTM here i put an actual mobo in the list

yeah just get this

its gonna be nearly the same while costing 1.2k less

[fickle bolt]

265k supremacy

[fallen sphinx]

for workstation 100%

[fickle bolt]

Nah for gaming it's actually pretty good

[fallen sphinx]

that socket though...

nah

[fickle bolt]

?

What's wrong with it

[fallen sphinx]

1851 is discontinued

[fickle bolt]

Oh

Arrow lake refresh is coming

[vale granite]

figures, cant paste from one source but can from another. This is my decade old pc I am using

[fickle bolt]

#tech-industry-news message

[fallen sphinx]

yeah id get the one i sent

[honest knot]

intel will never change bruh

[honest knot]

GTX 650 was my first dedicated gpu

[fallen sphinx]

yup

[vale granite]

back then this build worked fine, but everything keeps updating faster and faster and make parts obsolete faster and faster as well

[honest knot]

planned obsolescence, its great that you kept your rig for quite a while since it still runs x86 applications

[fallen sphinx]

well unless you do hyper intensive workloads, i would just get the one i have

its cheaper and will be nearly identical

unless you wanna spend 1.2k on basically nothing

[mental hazel]

don't forget the 100mhz extra p core clock

[honest knot]

yea that totally makes it different alright

[mental hazel]

REAL. i just bought one lol

[mental hazel]

mhm, Intel knows what's best, trust

[fickle bolt]

Everybody hating but it's genuinely great

[mental hazel]

i'm hyped for mine. my 7800x3D will still be in my main system, but this is a major refresh for my secondary. i'm most excited for overclocking since from what i've seen they have quite a lot of gas left in the tank

i'll probably turn off the E cores and go for max P core and fabric frequency

[fickle bolt]

Make sure to try the igpu, that's where it really shines

[gentle pollen]

Performance first, aesthetics second. I chose that case for the airflow and because they wanted a Fractal case preferably the Design Redefine which has bad airflow.

[fickle bolt]

Intel cooked with it

[fallen sphinx]

its still just an overpriced board

[gentle pollen]

The ITX motherboard is a two dimmer with 3x M.2 slots to increase the odds of 6000cl34 working.

Shorter ram traces and no additional traces compared to four dimmers.

[fallen sphinx]

then just get less ram

750$ for that is a dumb price anyways

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bDTrTM smth like this..

[mental hazel]

well mine is a kf

[fickle bolt]

Bruh

[mental hazel]

the system it's slotting into already lacks an iGPU so i figured i wouldn't miss it. i'll be running various dGPUs anyway so it's not really a factor

it was considerably cheaper to go KF vs K

[fickle bolt]

Fair

[cerulean portal]

Anyone able to help with cables?

[frigid edge]

Fan connector goes to CPU_FAN

Pump goes to AIO_PUMP

VRM goes to CPU_OPT

[cerulean portal]

Thank you 💜

[frigid edge]

Np

[cerulean portal]

Was seeing stuff saying the pump went to cpu opt & figured that didn't make sense

[hollow gulch]

That drive was swapped to qlc, it sucks

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dcBzK8/msi-spatium-m480-pro-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-spatium-m480-pro-pcie-40-nvme-m2-4tb use this.

That case comes with one fan so it requires a 3 pack.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7LxxFT/iceberg-thermal-icegale-76-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-icegale12-b3a

Don't need to buy thermal paste either.

Is this for that noctua shill? Lmao

[hollow gulch]

9950X would be better, same with an AIO, 285K and 9950X is going to lose performance on an NHD15.

[zealous moth]

newegg

w

[fallen sphinx]

Yeah

[snow dragon]

Hate it so much

Idk how companies can be stopped from doing that

[frigid edge]

@cerulean portal Did u figure it out lol

[harsh cosmos]

Hey guys, I need help with my new build. AIO fans won’t spin when I boot the PC

[crisp sun]

can u provide some pictures of ur pc

the inside for the motherboard

[harsh cosmos]

Will do. Also, AIO is NZXT kraken elite 360 rgb. Motherboard is MSI mag x870 tomahawk wifi. PSU is lian li edge 1200w

[harsh cosmos]

It’s not allowing me to send pics here for some reason

[crisp sun]

hmm leme see

sorry, checking now, i'll ping u when i find out and let u

[harsh cosmos]

Ok thx

[crisp sun]

Today I learned, white names cannot post pictures as it's caused issues in the past.

if you hang out for a bit, you should get a role soon (as in message a while)

[crimson zinc]

@harsh cosmos go ahead and dm either me or @crisp sun if you’d like to send us the picture and we’ll post it for you

[crisp sun]

oh that's a good way

[harsh cosmos]

But idk what photos to send

Photos of what parts of the pc

[crisp sun]

pics of ur fan connectors connecting to the mb

[crimson zinc]

General pictures of the motherboard, AIO connector, and cpu power

[crisp sun]

take a lot of shots of your motherboard close up

from a lot of diff angels angles

[crisp sun]

see those top 3 pin connectors?

unplug and replug them

[harsh cosmos]

Sorry where? I’m super new

Oh I see

I’ve tried removing them and replugging them: will do that again

[crimson zinc]

Make sure they’re going to the right connectors

[harsh cosmos]

How can I make sure of that?

[frigid edge]

if they fit

[crisp sun]

it looks like the right 2 are going one way but the left is going another way

what motherboard do you have?

Did you get a prebuilt pc?

@harsh cosmos

If you can lookup the model of you motherboard, that would be helpful

If you have a known working fan, that's good too to justplug and try while holding w/ ur hands

[frigid edge]

nah its fine

some fans are 3 pin and its seated properly

[crisp sun]

fans are cheap, u could go to the local store to buy a fan, and then try to see if that one works real quick

if it doeswork, than the fans u got are the problem

if it doesn't work, then might have to try other methods

i hope u've contacted your mb manufacturer by now to wait for a ticket as well

when'd u buy the pc?

[harsh cosmos]

MSI mag x870 tomahawk wifi

[harsh cosmos]

Nope built it myself

And the fans came with the AIO. The AIO is kraken elite 360 rgb

[harsh cosmos]

They’ve been going through though. When I push it in it goes in smoothly

[frigid edge]

Good

means its fine

[harsh cosmos]

What should I try next? I’m clueless

And frustrated lol

[frigid edge]

whats going wrong again?

[harsh cosmos]

The radiator fans on the AIO (which came with the AIO) aren’t spinning when I turn on PC

The rgb lights and the LCD screen for it turn on though

[frigid edge]

and you are sure that they are plugged in

do any of the motherboard headers have text like CPU_FAN or AIO_PUMP

[harsh cosmos]

CPU_FAN 1

[harsh cosmos]

The one on the very left

Is CPU_FAN 1

[frigid edge]

did you plug cpu fan into that one

[harsh cosmos]

I plugged the thing for the AIO in it

[frigid edge]

Aio should go to one that says aio_pump or something like that

It might be a header that’s like right under or near the cpu socket

But the connector for the aio’s fans should go in cpu_fan

[wheat zealot]

Hey can anyone tell me what cables I actually need for a rgb controller?

[stoic island]

Heavily depends on which specific controller and if it's an argb or rgb controller

usually it's 3 pin argb or 4 pin rgb if it's just a splitter, 3 pin argb/4 pin rgb plus sata power for normal controllers, 3 pin argb/4 pin rgb plus sata power plus USB for some controllers that try to be more fancy with software control, sometimes just sata power plus usb for software control only, and rarely it might be sata only if it has a physical controller on it or you get no control at all
(also even more rarely, just molex)

[wheat zealot]

Black ones are the cables that came with it from my other case. White daisy chained cables is what I want to hook up to it.

I already have the 4 pin to molex plugged in. I just need to know about the other 2 black cables if I actually need them.

[iron dew]

they should advertise that a whole 5090 astral oc + 9950x3d can’t even handle a simple app like nvidia broadcast

[obsidian wigeon]

that's weird

because i've been using nvidia broadcast just fine on 4050

[honest totem]

PC fans loud (I’m not sure which one)… First day of use yesterday of a brand new prebuilt, Performance was great gpu cpu %s are normal, but it’s very loud under load or not.
I didn’t check the temps but just from feel around th pc was never really hot considering how loud the fans are.

I went into bios and found a few options for changing the fans speed preset i left it in “Full speed” the one that it was before cuz google said i should

I haven’t looked at the curve fan thing in bios

ryzen 7 9700x, rtx 5060 ti 8gb, 32 gb ddr5 6000 mhz

the cooling system consists of a Azza 240 mm AIO and a separate 120 mm fan

I haven’t even figured out if it’s the aio making the noise or the gpu but help finding wht tn noise is would be helping or help tuning down the fan speed

[fallen sphinx]

“Pc fans loud” “I set them to full speed”

[honest totem]

I didn’t they came like that and i looked it up google said to not change it

do you recommend i turn them down

[fallen sphinx]

Set a curve

[honest totem]

Ok

do you know how i can see my temps when tabbed into a game

[fallen sphinx]

Msi afterburner

[harsh cosmos]

The AIO fans are in a connector called cpu_fan 1

Not sure what to do from here

[crisp sun]

do the case fans work?

[harsh cosmos]

Yes the case fans work. They came with my case. But yes they work all fine

[crisp sun]

how are the AIO fans connecting to the MB? is it through these connections?

trace the AIO fan cables to find out where

[gentle pollen]

Left: Pump Header
Middle: PWM header
Right: PWM header

[wheat zealot]

What type of support bracket should I get?

[fickle bolt]

do some cable managment then we'll tell you

[frigid edge]

Looks like one that attaches to the back of the pc, just like the gpu metal bracket

Or go for a riser cable

[wheat zealot]

I keep forgetting lol

[fickle bolt]

[wheat zealot]

It was alot worse then that before

I just moved everything to that case

[wheat zealot]

For sure thanks

[brittle tinsel]

would it be better (and cheaper) to get a cheap but decent/good 250gb-500gb 2.5inch SATA SSD from walmart or amazon? (both shipped, unless its worth gas money to go to walmart) I may need to order a sata cable as well. Ill check tomorrow if I still have one, I swear I did but that also could have been used in another pc

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Just needs to hold escape from tarkov and maybe pubg or another game. nothing crazy. mainly tarkov

I mean I can order from newegg too if its free shipping like the others.

[hollow gulch]

Nothing, use a household item

For the longest time I used a bullet casing to prevent gpu sag

[hollow gulch]

If you have m.2 available, do not get a sata drive, also anything below 500gb sucks due to less flash channels.

Dramless sata ssds are also pretty unusable which i feel like most are dramless nowadays

[obsidian wigeon]

i've been using dramless ssds for basically all of my experience with ssds

sata included

and honestly, for an average gamer, the lack of dram isn't deal breaking

i haven't come across a situation where sustained speed over the course of say, 10 minutes is important

i did notice a drop in speed, but waiting a little is alright

[mental hazel]

HMB makes dram mostly unecessary

[mental hazel]

idk if you've ever used one if you're saying this. maybe QLC satas with shit tier controllers and no HMB support suck, but anything even remotely decent is going to be fine with using HMB

[weary galleon]

Samsung 860 QVO as a system drive:

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[snow dragon]

No this is clearly unusable

100% for 3 hours straight

[obsidian wigeon]

the only concern is nand wear tbh

as far as manufacturers are concerned, they just want drives to last within warranty

past that is a bonus

[crisp sun]

disconnect a case and aio fan. put the case fan in the aio fan slot and see if it works

[tight horizon]

What are some fancy cables I can get that would work for my new parts I’m getting and my gpu? I wanna get some nice cables I can put into my psu to make my cables and wire management look really nice, I’ll just replace the default cables I got in my pc atm.

[crisp sun]

i think someone mentioned a place recently leme see

[crisp sun]

https://cablemod.com/

I "THINK" this is it

someone verify plz~

[fickle bolt]

yuppity

[crisp sun]

sound goodity

[tight horizon]

where is the full kit?

[crisp sun]

I think u'll have to go to this site and build out the full kit yourself

[tight horizon]

175$.... for some damn cables lmao

[crisp sun]

go to the configurator part

I recommend quality b/c it's for your pc

[fickle bolt]

they're the best that money can buy

[crisp sun]

and i've heard good things about this site

yea

u want quality in case ur pc burns out or something right

[tight horizon]

im not rich. just spent 400 on a cpu, mobo and ram

[crisp sun]

i know how u feel

[fallen sphinx]

just use the ones that came with your psu

[crisp sun]

times are very hard

i go home and i still work on career stuff

[tight horizon]

i am

[fallen sphinx]

you can get asia horse cable extensions for like 30$ that work great

[fickle bolt]

or get no-name ones for $17 like i did

💀

[tight horizon]

send me where you got em from lmao

idc who they are from as long as they look pretty good and have pretty solid material

[fallen sphinx]

id go for asia horse then

theyre just on amazon

look for the color you want and bam

[tight horizon]

do they have FULL kits

for like all parts I would need to plug into

[fallen sphinx]

yeah

is your gpu 2x8 connectors

[tight horizon]

rtx 3060 ti

[fallen sphinx]

what connectors does it use

[tight horizon]

i think its 16 ports total

[tight horizon]

yes its a 2x8 connection

[fallen sphinx]

https://www.amazon.com/AsiaHorse-Extension-Sleeved-Custom-Braided/dp/B0BVQVYVGW

[fickle bolt]

https://www.amazon.com/Okinos-Extension-Braided-1x24Pin-1x8Pin/dp/B0D3XNWZNR/ref=mp_s_a_1_4l

@tight horizon

[fallen sphinx]

id say spend the 2$ and go name brand 😭

[fickle bolt]

ye plus that one has 2 eps connectors

[fallen sphinx]

actually

theres a sale for non name brand

[tight horizon]

ill get these then. these cover all my parts right?

just wanna make sure the kit gives me all the cables I need to connect everything.

im guessing the reason it only gives those like 3-4 cables is because they are the only ones you really see in your pc? ssd connectors and stuff you wont be able to see right so I can just use the default psu connector for it correct?

[fallen sphinx]

yes

[tight horizon]

alright. thanks

[brittle tinsel]

unfortunately the pc it will be going in does not have m.2 slots. Im not looking for top of the line. cant afford that right now. just something to that will help tarkov load faster as tarkov on an HDD is unplayable.

[tight horizon]

ssd

honestly any ssd would be a crazy upgrade if youre playing on hdd

[brittle tinsel]

yeah I was replying to his reply to my message early this morning.
trying to find a decent one for cheap from walmart or amazon or something.

[hollow gulch]

well a darmless sata ssd will help but once the slc cache runs out itll be pretty slow

[arctic ridge]

Hi, I bought a prebuilt from newegg that arrived earlier this week https://www.newegg.ca/gaming-desktop-pc-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-32gb-ddr5-2tb-ssd-azzacarmel-7800x3d9070xt/p/N82E16883989016

Anyway, I think the RX-9070 isn't working properly because whenever I try to set it to use the RX-9070, no games are able to open properly and remain on black screens (Risk of Rain 2, Elden Ring Nightreign, etc that it should have no problems running). In Advanced Graphics Settings, "Let Windows decide" tries to use the integrated AMD Radeon Graphics.
Is there a way to tell if my graphics card is set up correctly?

[stoic island]

Have you installed your GPU drivers?

[arctic ridge]

Yes, I went online and installed drivers from AMD

[hollow gulch]

you have your display cable plugged into the gpu right..?

[restive halo]

$600 My nephew has been babysitting for me and wants me to build a PC with him instead of money.
He plays Call of Duty, Fortnight, Grand Theft Auto.
Local stores are best buy, Walmart, target, amazon
Budget includes parts, monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
I bought the RAIDMAX Cobra ATX 3.1 Power Supply 850W in ZTT Deals so the budget does not need to include a power supply. I do have a used Ryzen 5 2600 and a new 6500xt but if possible I would like to get him a new cpu and better gpu.
He likes RGB and if it can be in the budget he wants a cooler like the aqua elite as he wants to learn how to install it as well as loves the way it looks.
He would prefer a fish tank style case for RGB I found a DIY case for $69 that comes with 6 ARGB fans (Just a Thought).

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd be careful with the psu, as that's a pretty meh unit

it should be fine though, speculative c tier

so long as power consumption is kept to a minimum

but that psu does not have much of a wiggle room

as for ram, now is the worst time to buy ram

i'd look for used options

prices have doubled for ddr4 and ddr5

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vZWsqH

whipped a quick little list

[frigid edge]

bro you couldve gotten 96gb of gold royal ram for the new price of 64gb

[arctic ridge]

This was the problem
First time owning a desktop instead of a laptop, didn't realize there were fake HDMI ports
Thanks