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chilly moat
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That paste will become a problem

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Hope they change that soon

chilly moat
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Size of human hand

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Imagine if amd was shipping mobile rdna 4 gpus

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man

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Oh I said 4L

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It is actually less than that

naive robin
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that's seriously tiny

warm cloud
chilly moat
chilly moat
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In some cases like the axp90 it would be better to get a thicker fan rather than heatsink, because the fan is so small that a thicker heatsink would actually impede airflow

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That rear plastic section is the static pressure fan

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It might not be so bad really, since mobile dies are thinner than desktop dies

native narwhal
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VideoCardz.com

Intel Core Ultra 9 290K Plus “Arrow Lake Refresh” CPU to feature 5.8 GHz TVB boost The last breath for the LGA-1851 socket.  Intel is now set to introduce its Arrow Lake Refresh next year, likely as a last push before moving to the LGA-1954 socket for Nova Lake. There is still no clear communication […]

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Yaaay

sharp wing
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Oh fun

marble meteor
signal kelp
mellow cobalt
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canada BC

ionic notch
chilly moat
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Eh

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100 is nothing

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So basically

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Soc boost arrow lake but resold

ionic notch
chilly moat
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Damn

ionic notch
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The 100 boost is not much though the fact that it's at same power is good. What I like is that the SOC is much better.

chilly moat
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Zen 6 gonna go crazy then

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Hope intel releases their next gen around zen 6 time

ionic notch
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Oh wait does Intel have the concept of 1:1 sync for RAM like AM5?

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Because 7200 1:1 is great.

chilly moat
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Total overhaul for everything

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Not just a node shrink, they are also supposedly adding a second imc and improving infinity fabric, completely changing their interconnect, and adding more cores while skipping almost two node families on the ccd

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Iod is supposed to be using n3p

ionic notch
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Hmm true. I think the Fabric will remain decoupled but the memory controller will be better because information won't be going back and forth as much.

chilly moat
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Pretty sure the memory training times will be very short

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With mcr it might almost be like ddr4 again

mellow cobalt
pallid spruce
native narwhal
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I'm probably gonna upgrade to 285K 9070XT/7900XT/7900XTX at some point

pallid spruce
native narwhal
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any of the 7-9 gpus lol

native narwhal
pallid spruce
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yes

native narwhal
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potentially

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I know it voids your warranty

pallid spruce
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suppose i had a modded 7900xt with a waterblock that i was potentially willing to part with at some point in the future kekw i have the stock cooler too ofc

native narwhal
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how much would you be selling for?

pallid spruce
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tbh i would only recommend RDNA3 over RDNA4 if prices are considerably lower or you're doing XOC stuff. RDN4 is just uniformly superior otherwise (hence the liquid cooling question)

pallid spruce
native narwhal
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ye mostly medium-heavy gaming and I need it to not fail at loading anything with blender

pallid spruce
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doesn't nvidia wildly overperform in blender or is that outdated info?

native narwhal
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yeah it does

pallid spruce
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but yeah i mean 7900 xt is more than capable of the gaming stuff. the one that i have is running close-ish to 4090 raster performance which is wild

native narwhal
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ofc i say it needs to work but my 9060xt is working fine? wtf?

native narwhal
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so a while back i was tryna get it to work with blender, even after trying vulkan it just exceeded max texture size

pallid spruce
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oh, weird

native narwhal
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but now it works perfectly fine...

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I tried it with the 9060XT and he same error i was talking abt came up

sharp wing
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That sucks

chilly moat
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low iq

mellow cobalt
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VideoCardz.com

Intel Core Ultra 300 ‘Panther Lake’ launch set for January 5 at CES 2026 Intel has now confirmed that its next Core Ultra Series 3 processors, codenamed Panther Lake, will be launched at CES 2026 during a keynote in Las Vegas. Updated Intel CES page now pins this down to Monday, January 5 at 3:00 […]

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Yay

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Panther lake

vivid kelp
chilly moat
mellow cobalt
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maybe launched

wet socket
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AI is taking our hardware and taking over our games.

rare vault
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And taking our RAM

young osprey
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GPU prices drop then the RAM prices rise.

ivory pike
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Good news! Gpu prices are going down!
Bad news! Ram is going up to compensate!

tepid wasp
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Extra bad news! The ram prices will impact vram!

ivory pike
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Even more bad news! Buy your gpu and it’s vram separate now!

sharp wing
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great news! you can now choose how much vram you want in any model of the new gpus

ivory pike
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Terrible news! It’s going to be expensive!

young osprey
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1-1=0 ExpressionlessEgg

naive robin
pallid spruce
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yeah, OpenAI just bought unsliced dram wafers. dram pricing is going to utterly collapse once OpenAI crashes back down to earth and all their kit ends up being bought back for pennies on the dollar or recycled into used markets

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long term they'd be insane to increase production because demand was decreasing prior to this, and OpenAI has no way to actually use the vast majority of what they're buying. it's just going into warehouses and will eventually hit the market

chilly moat
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They cost 10 times as much for the same query with grok

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Deepseek costs even less

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For the past few weeks I have been starting to think that openai is just a money laundering front for all these companies

signal kelp
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https://youtu.be/3hptKYix4X8?si=SNlmcB7uHB2Yg0Rv

Didn’t really touch as much as I wanted on AI specifics or Nvidia specific goals but still a interesting listen.

Jensen Huang is the founder, president, and CEO of NVIDIA, the company whose 1999 invention of the GPU helped transform gaming, computer graphics, and accelerated computing. Under his leadership, NVIDIA has grown into a full-stack computing infrastructure company reshaping AI and data-center technology across industries.
https://www.nvidia.com
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young osprey
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I used Chatgpt to learn. It is a good tool.

young osprey
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Also it is a good tool for programmers.

native narwhal
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Chatgpt(or any chatbot for that matter) can't be considered a real resource because of how much it hallucinates

marble meteor
native narwhal
marble meteor
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Not to the point of being a citable source of course

marble meteor
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But "using it to learn" doesn't mean he's citing it lol

native narwhal
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'Way less' is a hell of a lot more than 'none' and until then I don't want anything to do with it

marble meteor
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You do you

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Imma keep saving time with perplexity instead of sifting through slop internet results

native narwhal
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Much rather do that than waste all that cooling water

marble meteor
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Genai llm prompts use a similar amount of power as a search

native narwhal
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Nah don't they use like half a gallon of water per prompt

marble meteor
native narwhal
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And then like 3 gallons for images

marble meteor
native narwhal
marble meteor
marble meteor
native narwhal
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Nah I'm campaigning for the destruction of Ai

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Whatever means necessary

marble meteor
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What I will say is datacenters using portable generators is nasty

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I think X ai/ Elon musk was the main culprit for that one

native narwhal
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Yeah

marble meteor
native narwhal
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Maybe

shadow heart
shadow heart
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Nvidia doing something good?

young osprey
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🤔

young osprey
shadow heart
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Bro who are you 💀

sharp wing
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an imposter

young osprey
rare vault
native narwhal
native narwhal
shadow heart
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Intel: probably the best option for AI, just given the amount of VRAM in their GPUs for the price you pay

PyTorch developers: lmao let's just avoid developing for anything but Nvidia

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Just give me a reason to by Intel ffs

native narwhal
marble meteor
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yeah I don't get why people give their babies YouTube when there's so much good kids content out there

ivory pike
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Bluey exists

native narwhal
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Only good kids show this decade

native narwhal
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I mean i hate China as much as the next guy but like COME ON

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This is dumb

desert hazel
native narwhal
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It's just the us government with their usual xenophobic dumbassery

chilly moat
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No

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It is them wanting to farm our data instead of china

native narwhal
tepid wasp
# chilly moat It is them wanting to farm our data instead of china

What you mean we can't trust American companies who have stolen your SSN, your credit card information, your address, your name and DoB and the name of your 4th Neopet and are in the process of selling it to anybody and everybody including some shady guy name Vlad on the dark web?

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Absolutely crazy derpyBlob

marble meteor
native narwhal
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I couldn't care less

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They're the only ones that make really good drones

sharp wing
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And there also aren’t really any viable alternatives to dji in the gimbal space either

native narwhal
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Precisely

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The us government is populated entirely by idiots who don't understand tech in the slightest

tepid wasp
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I wouldn't say entirely. Just the ones who do are the ones getting fired without cause and illegally derpyBlob

native narwhal
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We gotta make a law that if ur over the age of 60 you are ineligible for any state/national/federal elections

naive robin
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cool

chilly moat
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300w 4070

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At least it’ll be relatively cheap

warm cloud
chilly moat
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Well yeah assuming that it does come out

naive robin
shadow heart
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Is that a 14nm++++++++++++++++++ reference?

chilly moat
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It’s all india

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I’m never getting a job

shadow heart
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Heavenforbid I want to move out of my parents' house

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I'm about to work a high-paying service job at this point. This is ridiculous

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Service advisor role here I come I guess

tepid wasp
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Well I think we all know why they did it in India. Those jobs were never coming anywhere in the US based on wage laws and enforcement of them alone derpyBlob

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Then again, it is part of a digitization of small businesses, so I dunno if we'd even want that anyways. Doing that here would be just another name for erasing brick and mortar small businesses

chilly moat
native narwhal
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Remove gadgets and it's still spot on

wet socket
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Wasn't the logitech CEO the one talking about peripheral subscription service?

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I think the specific example was a mouse.

chilly moat
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The forever mouse

native narwhal
naive robin
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anyhow

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samsung is getting a big contract at this rate

tepid wasp
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Soon you will only be able to buy PSUs and coolers

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I was saying there were price spikes for HDDs back in September and October

native narwhal
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gonna start a petition to ban ai altogether

tepid wasp
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It is just official now

native narwhal
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literally nothing good has come of it so far

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it automates things we didn't need automated and ruins whatevedr it touches

chilly moat
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No nas for me ig

weak ferry
warm cloud
native narwhal
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They're are like 2 uses i can think of where Ai is actually useful

warm cloud
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Early detection of basically anything, optimizing systems

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yknow, important things

native narwhal
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Protein folding

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Chess ig

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Image recognition

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Ok fine

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Generative Ai needs to be destroyed

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But I'll cut the other types some slack

warm cloud
native narwhal
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Maybe

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But based on how well it detects weapons im not holding my breath

tepid wasp
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We've had chess bots for years, I don't see how they need to be improved with AI

native narwhal
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It's not, that's the point I'm trying to make

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For all but a few extremely niche cases, ai is utterly useless

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Gen ai is the worst of all

tepid wasp
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We need AI for the police state don't y'know?

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How could humanity survive if our governments couldn't track every single thing we do at all times without a warrant and without any justifiable reason for it?

warm cloud
native narwhal
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It does?

chilly moat
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but disinformation to them, what they think is disinformation

native narwhal
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Tf is the wef

chilly moat
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the billionaire censor bot

chilly moat
native narwhal
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Lovely

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We need freedom of speech, censorship of any kind is bad

warm cloud
native narwhal
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Even if it's strictly against racism or sexism, it opens the door to true censorship

native narwhal
chilly moat
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ai needs to be banished to small niche uses already

marble meteor
native narwhal
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I'll be taking my chances with real intelligence though

warm cloud
native narwhal
warm cloud
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it is.

tepid wasp
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The kind of stuff they do in China currently

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Bringing the surveillance aparatus home so you can be constantly spied on by the state and private interests. The PATRIOT Act looks trivial in comparison

marble meteor
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Flock 🙃

chilly moat
chilly moat
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We are a flock of sheep

chilly moat
chilly moat
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Big evil building

native narwhal
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President business aah crap

chilly moat
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We love brutalism

native narwhal
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Humans survived millennia without smartphones, or heck even electricity

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Ai is the least useful invention this decade and we do not need it

marble meteor
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You can't really just generalize all AI

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LLMs and image generation are more questionable

sharp wing
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amazing how when you transform this technology into a chatbot suddenly it becomes a revolutionary technology

native narwhal
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At the core is all the same slop no matter what you're looking at, but I don't deny the usefulness ouch ai - WITH HUMAN SUPERVISION - in Healthcare

marble meteor
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Though I personally still find LLMs (with internet access) to be pretty helpful

native narwhal
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They're just automating the automation of searching

marble meteor
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Yeah it saves me a good deal of time. Granted AI has also contributed to making searching less efficient (filling search results with SEO slop) so I guess this is an ouroboros kinda thing lol

native narwhal
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Yup

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Ai make slop, person posts slop on Twitter, other ai scrapes slop

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Never ending cycle

warm cloud
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You just can’t generalize it, there’s LLMs and GenAI which are useless, but actual AI has so many useful features

native narwhal
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Reuters

The Federal Communications Commission said on Monday it is adding China's DJI, Autel and all foreign-made drones and components to a list of companies determined to pose unacceptable risks to U.S. national security and will bar approvals of new types of drones for import or sale in the United States.

desert hazel
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DJI is like the best commercial drone company in the world. But the drone usage in Ukraine is terrifying from Russia.

desert hazel
native narwhal
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I have my own opinions about Ukraine

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One of em being we should give a crap

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But the fact the fcc is banning companies because they're Chinese is insanity

desert hazel
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Our consoles are in trouble

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D::::::::::::

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Xbox raises their prices 3 more times in 2026

tepid wasp
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Well nobody was buying Xbox consoles anyways so that isn't a concern derpyBlob

chilly moat
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Yeah itll just cancel out from people not buying them

native narwhal
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And being honest who actually wants this

tepid wasp
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Nobody, because it is a niche solution to a problem that has other less stupid solutions. It isn't exactly much of a money making venture either, so I expect the business will shutter once nobody uses it after they waste a ton of money launching junk into orbit that'll eventually come down and kill someone

weak ferry
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I doubt they get far enough to actually launch anything. That's expensive.

tepid wasp
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They'll launch a handful and then go bankrupt, launches are actually good at rallying a stock price and good for raising capital for a short period in this type of company

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Until the launch hype crashes and people realize there isn't any profit here

marble meteor
native narwhal
marble meteor
young osprey
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They force players to subscribe the GeForce services.

native narwhal
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Ykw

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Let's all just stop paying for subscriptions

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They're dumb as hell and you can get free alternatives to literally any service

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Spotify? Use a media recorder to download music using the free version, then play them using like media player or sm

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Adobe suite? GIMP, Krita, Blender, and DaVinci Resolve

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YouTube premium? None(idc abt the ads)

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GeForce Now? Use a normal computer or play old games(most of them are better anyhow)

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Subscriptions must be subverted

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Back to the days of the one time payment

tardy parcel
marble meteor
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yeah if you're promoting pirating music I think you can promote an adblocker lol

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I didn't care about YouTube ads back in the day when there was one per video and they weren't for trashy products and gooner games

naive robin
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The very same datacenters are expanding rapidly to desperately boost stocks value, using up so much gpus, vram and dram that supply runs low

chilly moat
naive robin
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Yep

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Even GFN has a cap

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So it's simply Nvidia prioritizing AI datacenters over anything

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Which is a bad thing overall for gaming

marble meteor
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That's like 3:20 a day every day. Doesn't seem like a huge deal to me?

native narwhal
naive robin
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For working class ppl GFN's 100-hour cap is not a problem

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But it's a sign that Nvidia doesn't want to focus on non-AI markets

marble meteor
native narwhal
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It's illegal?

marble meteor
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...yes?

native narwhal
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Since when is recording stuff off of spotify illegal 😭

marble meteor
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Uh like since the beginning of copywrite law 💀

naive robin
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That is illegal, like recording movies

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Subscription is not the same thing as purchasing music

native narwhal
naive robin
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You can do whatever you want if you have bought the song itself

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Same for the movie if it was bought

marble meteor
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Granted nobody's gonna come for you if you do it. But yes it's illegal

naive robin
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^

native narwhal
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Thus I do what I wish

naive robin
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I can't promote piracy here since newegg is a public server related to well, newegg

native narwhal
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I wish, I wish, I wish I were a fish

marble meteor
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Sorry but I actually can't believe bro thought you could legally rip Spotify songs 😭

naive robin
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Let's not promote piracy here if possible, please

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At least do it in the DMs

native narwhal
naive robin
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We can talk about adblockers though, that's a different animal

native narwhal
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Adbloxkers gud

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Is there one that actually works on yt

naive robin
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So many ads are either malicious or gooner games nowadays

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Yeah, I use ublock lite

marble meteor
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Granted it's arguable that adblockers are piracy too, since you're blocking the revenue stream for the "free" content you're ingesting

naive robin
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It's debatable, though not illegal

native narwhal
marble meteor
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Uhh

native narwhal
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It just might take 30 seconds to a minute longer to watch

marble meteor
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Well the ad revenue is what makes the video "free"

naive robin
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If the ads are good then I'll gladly disable my adblocker tbh

marble meteor
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Amyways I agree that ads have gotten so bad they're a hazard and literally everyone should have an adblocker

naive robin
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Revenue stream is important, and I understand that

native narwhal
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Are there actually any good ones

naive robin
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It's just the dangers of ads have gotten so prevalent

native narwhal
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Adblockers I mean

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People seem to like pie

marble meteor
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YouTube ads are horrid

naive robin
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Google ads are horrid in general to be real

marble meteor
native narwhal
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I'm deadass

native narwhal
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Atp abt anything beats chrome and edge

marble meteor
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Ublock is decent but is a bit more effected by Google's crackdown I think

native narwhal
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Opera sounds good too but also gimmicky af

naive robin
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Ublock lite is good

marble meteor
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Opera is ick

naive robin
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Ublock origin however is handicapped on chrome

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But the lite version does the job and supports manifest V3 (or whatever google is on)

marble meteor
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People ick on the crypto but if it's what allows Brave to offer the services they do I'm chill with it personally.

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Rather their funding sources be publicly visible ads/sponsors vs opaque stuff

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By default I believe ads are served on the home/search page, on top of search results, and as windows notification popups. I've got the search results ones turned off but leave the others on

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You can also adjust the frequency of the notification ads

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Should rename myself to brave shill at this point

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Brave, signal, mullvad

tepid wasp
# young osprey Is it government policy?

The government has no policy currently with regards to gpu production except to pose as a mob boss and demand a cut when sold to China and if they can have the silicon made in the US you get free taxpayer money that may or may not turn into a buyout of shares to repeat mob boss vibes. AI datacenters are eating everything so Nvidia is chopping off their less profitable goods for more free money. Gov't policy towards datacenters is yes and give us all because free money good for economy numbers

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This has been my DreadTalk

chilly moat
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native narwhal
native narwhal
chilly moat
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ai in bros head rent free

native narwhal
chilly moat
chilly moat
chilly moat
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Suffering from success

native narwhal
chilly moat
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Brother

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You are too fixated on it

marble meteor
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I wonder if monitors with pulsar will be competitively priced vs just getting an oled

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oh wait it's clearer than oled kekw

naive robin
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holy

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nvidia innovation in gaming

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imagine pulsar with oled

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oh wait that's already pulsar on oled isn't it

marble meteor
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oled can't use pulsar

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because it doesn't use a backlight

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oled can use black frame insertion but that cuts refresh rate in half, lowers brightness, and can introduce flickering

naive robin
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ah

chilly moat
native narwhal
tepid wasp
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AM4 for life?

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The eternal socket?

naive robin
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eh?

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that looks like an amd cpu on an am4 socket

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oh you mean the standoffs

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oof

chilly moat
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i have a bunch of old tabs

chilly moat
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Not so long ago I think nvidia actually told them to stop stocking or stock less 8 gig ti models

chilly moat
chilly moat
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Actually this video is kinda shit

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Basically just wasted my time

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It is a bubble, just one so big that it is like a black hole.. massive ponzi

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Should have read the comments first

tepid wasp
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Also sponsored by a scam derpyBlob

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Gold and silver holding corp. you give them your funni speculative asset metals and they'll pay you a percentage of the value of what they 'hold'. Which means they sell your gold or silver and then when you request it back they disappear and you lose your funni assets

marble meteor
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They also only advertise "up to" 4% returns lol

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Decent savings account gets you like 3.5%

chilly moat
tepid wasp
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It is also in the comments derpyBlob

chilly moat
chilly moat
naive robin
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bruh

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that's insane

chilly moat
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do i blame him tho

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no

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this is worse than 2018

native narwhal
chilly moat
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i highly doubt that

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Wccftech

Demand for TSMC’s 2nm process continues to surge, with the company reportedly recording 1.5 times more tape-outs than the 3nm node

Wccftech

Apple, with the M5 Ultra or the M6 Ultra chip, is likely to compete for the same 3D packaging resources at TSMC as the ones used by NVIDIA.

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N2 is gonna be big

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I guess the price will be too

chilly moat
desert hazel
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is this true?

native narwhal
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if it is its kinda sad, i was a small-time fan of their phones

naive robin
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it can be true

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asus hasn't been making much money in the smartphone market lately

chilly moat
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Probably because of their bullshit premium branding

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Makes iphone look like a deal

pale tree
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thought this was a cool idea from them. use the nice camera thats on the back as the front facing camera as well instead of a tiny camera in the front

signal kelp
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I never even knew Asus had phones

chilly moat
naive robin
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damn

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but is it a good code? idk tho

chilly moat
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Yeah it isn't enough on its own

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But this is like

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nvidia self ownage

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Bro what is this jacket

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It looks so weird on him

sharp wing
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wdym

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that's his new leather jacket

naive robin
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alligator leather

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also it's funny how the companies are crying about the negative sentiment towards ai

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guilt tripping doesn't work like that jensen

weak ferry
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Who's supposed to be the sympathetic figures we feel bad for bullying? The machines, the trillion dollar corporations or the governments?

naive robin
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none

chilly moat
chilly moat
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Blud got the gator drip

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I guess he got it to feed into the jokes

native narwhal
chilly moat
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This isn’t completely unexpected but still silly

chilly moat
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Even 'Whale' Apple Surrenders... Samsung and SK Hynix Hike LPDDR Prices for iPhone
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︀︀It has been reported that Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix have recently increased the price of Low Power Double Data Rate (LPDDR) DRAM supplied to Apple by nearly double compared to the previous quarter. Apple, a major smartphone manufacturer, has traditionally utilized its dominant market position to procure LPDDR at relatively low prices.
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︀︀However, as the memory supply shortage has intensified since mid-last year, Apple appears to have been unable to resist the overall trend of rising prices. Conversely, Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix are now positioned to maximize the profitability of their DRAM businesses starting in the first quarter of this year.
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︀︀According to industry sources on the 27th, Samsung and SK Hynix have agreed to significantly raise LPDDR prices for the iPhone through negotiations with Apple.
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︀︀LPDDR is a type of DRAM that fo…

marble meteor
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Uhoh

weak ferry
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Well that's already rebounded.

chilly moat
chilly moat
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VideoCardz.com

Intel’s new Arc driver enables XeSS 3 Multi-Frame Generation Intel has started shipping XeSS 3 support with Multi-Frame Generation in its latest Windows

VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc B-Series will support XeSS3 MFG next month Just wait for new drivers.  Yesterday, Intel launched a new graphics driver for Arc-based GPUs.

native narwhal
tepid wasp
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Man part of circular financing scheme decries claims of circular financing after doing circular financing. More at 11

chilly moat
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So peak… applesob 🙏

marble meteor
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Seems to have massively improved "memory"

chilly moat
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stocks will be back up shortly

pale tree
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time to buy buy buy

naive robin
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yep

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stocks already recovered

chilly moat
naive robin
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TSMC is playing the long game and migitating risks

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A recent report also reported that Apple won silicon allocation over Nvidia

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Oh, disregard the Apple win lol

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Fact-checked one more time and nah, Nvidia took the crown

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This can be Intel or Samsung's time to shine

sharp wing
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Im pretty sure some of these manufacturers stated publicly at some point that they weren’t planning to expand production because they believe demand will fall by the time any new facility is up and running

naive robin
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Yeah, some of them did do so

chilly moat
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That would be funny

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Ok intel we want you again, but for a different reason this time

chilly moat
naive robin
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damn

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as if printers weren't problematic enough

chilly moat
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One of the least problematic things on there

shadow heart
marble meteor
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Wtf

native narwhal
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wtf

marble meteor
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Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age.

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Guess I'll go start posting nsfw (in a different server) I'm in so discord AI can tell I'm of age

marble meteor
chilly moat
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I say a lot of crazy shit in my server so maybe the inference model already guesses something higher than early teens

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But at least it is not mandatory

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Not sure what updated commication settings is, but I am not in goon servers anyway so the goon servers I do not care about

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"content filtering"

west saffron
serene marsh
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It’s gonna be a mixed bag of people trying to bypass it but since they’d be using ai if the ai deems you to be unfit for the age group you would need to reverify every so often

ionic notch
chilly moat
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Do you know why this is somewhat believable? It’s massive core count

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Tjmax is apparently 100c

young osprey
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cooked

chrome laurel
marble meteor
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https://youtu.be/iBiSKfjTNDY
DLSS getting added as a denoiser for Blender

Deep Learning Super Sampling (DLSS) Ray Reconstruction for Blender is finally possible to build and run on NVIDIA GPUs! In this video I'm testing various scenes and how they can be denoised with DLSS in Blender.

PR here: https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/pulls/153077

BIG thanks to bbcool2002 (https://www.instagram.com/bbcoolcg) for ...

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marble meteor
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Feel obligated to post this since I sent a (legitimate) verifier link yesterday. Hope everyone here is smart enough to know the difference between running clearly outlined code in their discord console vs pasting worlds' sketchiest command into the run dialog but yeah stay safe

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Hello <@&778720465593696316> ,

I cannot believe I have to run an announcement for this (oh wait, I do. This is Discord), but since the news about Discord bringing the awesome wholesome 100 wumpus age verification, guess what people started doing? Verification scams. Oh joy.

If you receive any message like this that tries to lead you out to an external site to "verify your age", do not follow. Discord only does age verification within the app. (Actually, you shouldn't also verify with your face or ID on a platform that leaked 70000 government issued ID cards months ago, but I cannot avert everyone from that decision.)
If you (in general) see a site that tells you to press Win+R, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V (or any similar set of shortcuts), do not do that no matter how convincing the site is. You're just installing a stealer.

A couple examples in the pictures.

Stay safe out there.

naive robin
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god damn

marble meteor
chilly moat
marble meteor
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Pattern recognition

chilly moat
tepid wasp
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The CEO of Discord is an Arab Israeli, specifically a Christian one, so if that is an attempt at an antisemitic sneer it isn't very effective

marble meteor
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I think the jab was at Israel not the jews

marble meteor
tepid wasp
marble meteor
tepid wasp
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Palantir is heavily tied to a lot of countries and companies. Almost as if a lot of people want to be tracking everything you do and say

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In fact, about 66% of their sales was within the US as of 2024

marble meteor
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Yeah I mean screw them for that as well. But in Israel they are developing and using AI targeting systems with rather uncomfortably high error rates

unique igloo
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What Discord alternatives do y'all have

shadow heart
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Self-hosted Matrix and Element

sharp wing
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I want to try out self hosted teamspeak for voice and video

serene marsh
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Bro I’m still on alder lake, what’s all these new LP-E cores? Low power efficiency?

serene marsh
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Yuck

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Tbh they should’ve stopped at 12th gen that’s when it peaked tbh

chilly moat
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Because e cores are technically more power efficient, but are really more like die space efficient instead

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So lpe fills in that gap

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Those poor little underclocked lp cores gonna get hammered by a windows update

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Since that’s what the main purpose is iirc

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Os tasks

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Or other menial things

tepid wasp
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LP-LP-LP-E cores wen?

chilly moat
chilly moat
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Zen cores are already really efficient though.. interesting

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That explains the 22 core thing we saw a while ago

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However

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That might still be better than e cores because zen c still has the same instructions as zen

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Zen c is just zen but more compact from the team designing the core as a whole thing together, rather than a team dedicated to each thing on a core, which takes up more space

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I think they also use more high density cells instead of lower density cells

chilly moat
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They also have less l3 cache for each core, saving on even more space

chilly moat
chilly moat
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Is he spitting

desert hazel
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daaaang

chilly moat
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Then when things get calmed down they get sanctioned again androidjoy androidjoy

naive robin
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lmao

shadow heart
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"Oh no! The economy is actually doing so bad that we need to allow other manufacturers!"

shadow heart
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"bUt APple ExPENsiVE" just try a MacBook and have your mind changed, please 💀

sharp wing
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A new low power MacBook?

shadow heart
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tbf though a single port (USB C) is kinda crazy

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Hopefully it's at least Thunderbolt

sharp wing
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Yeah but then again the type of people this would be marketed to are those that have a phone as their main computer

shadow heart
# sharp wing A new low power MacBook?

They've been needing to develop this tbh. It's like the equivalent to the iPads' lineup (the iPad Pro, Air, and base model iPad that usually costs like less than a third of the Air)

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A lot of people use their MacBook just for YouTube anyways. This is honestly perfect for those people

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Yeah it's very limited, and probably a little botched of a device (the parts they used), but it only makes sense for them to finally make something like this imo

sharp wing
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I remember when they came out with a low power MacBook but it was pre apple silicon and imo it was just too slow

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This’ll be interesting

shadow heart
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ya motha

warm cloud
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They’re genuinely terrible esp for anything I need/want in a laptop

shadow heart
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I don't like bean soup either

warm cloud
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Also isn’t that a phone chip

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In a laptop

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Also

shadow heart
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  1. Yeah bean soup sucks I agree. Crazy
  2. Judging it on rumored specs is crazy
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This mf gonna point out the single USB C next

warm cloud
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It only has one peripheral port and that’s charging

shadow heart
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LMAO KNEW IT

warm cloud
shadow heart
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I still think it'll outperform most Windows laptops at that price

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Especially in the long run

warm cloud
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Idk

shadow heart
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Most of Apple's A-series chips can last at least 3 years before noticing significant slowdowns, also while not having to maintain the OS. Windows laptops for $600 can't really do the same imo (you have to clear the OS if you want to keep it healthy without reinstalling)

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Also, don't mention "it's only 8GB of RAM and 256GB of storage." This is a different OS that's optimized to use less resources lmao (speaking from experience btw)

sharp wing
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At that price probably, its hard to find a somewhat capable actual laptop under 600usd

warm cloud
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10gb idle

shadow heart
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Your grandpa has too much stuff running in the background

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I never hit that on my 8GB M3 💀

warm cloud
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Nothing was open

shadow heart
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"background"

warm cloud
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There was little running in the background lmao

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It was all preloading apps and system usage

shadow heart
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idk man lol. This is with multiple YouTube tabs (among other tabs), Bambu Studio (with model loaded), apps running in the background, and iMessage. My MacOS installation is about the same age as the M4 MBAs

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(M3, 16GB, 512GB)

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Could probably also run LM Studio with this setup tbh

warm cloud
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Still

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It’s ok for a super budget laptop that does nothing but browse

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But it’s using a phone chip and has a LOT of drawbacks

shadow heart
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Literally running an LLM on the hardware lmao

shadow heart
warm cloud
shadow heart
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"But what about video production, like every other Mac product?" MBA users mostly don't do that tbh lol

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Doubt it tbh

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At least on MacOS (in my experience)

warm cloud
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I don’t

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On macOS and on windows 8gb is basically just useless

shadow heart
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I actually see the storage just being 256GB being less useful than just 8GB

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Windows on 8GB: The whole OS is limited
MacOS on 8GB: (tbh idk because I barely notice a difference in performance, other than tabs just being unloaded)

warm cloud
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With how macOS has the system cache

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Def

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I mean… if you KNOW how to get around those heavy limitations I think it’s fine

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However, most people who need this budget of a laptop don’t

shadow heart
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Yeah tbh I was constantly filling my M3 256GB. Was super annoying, especially when I was using it to reset multiple iPads (I used it for work and heavily sped up the iPad reset process with my MacBook, which there was no other Mac device in the building to reset iPads. I basically saved us a lot of time lol)

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I still think it's perfect enough for the normal user. Just not for engineering students (everybody knows why though tbh. In that case, just go Windows obviously lol)

warm cloud
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I’m gonna be an engineering student

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My dad is basically gonna force me to get a MacBook

shadow heart
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lmaooo wtf

warm cloud
shadow heart
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MacBook for engineering?

warm cloud
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I’m too lazy to type it out

marble meteor
warm cloud
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Also keep in mind

marble meteor
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MacBook for engineering bruh 💀

warm cloud
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It meets one of my requirements for a laptop

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Out of like

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7

marble meteor
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Look to see if your school's IT has laptop specs for engineering students

shadow heart
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This MacBook is basically for people who want to watch YouTube and maybe have a document open for work/school with Canvas in one of the other tabs

warm cloud
tepid wasp
shadow heart
warm cloud
shadow heart
tepid wasp
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Doesn't matter

warm cloud
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32gb storage 4gb ram and a celeron n100 or smth, and I’ve tortured this thing

tepid wasp
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Chromebooks are cheap throwaway computers

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$600 is not cheap throwaway computer territory

marble meteor
# shadow heart Like 192GB of storage (yeah I know it's weird) and 8GB probably (loaner laptops ...

Here's my schools recs:

AMD Ryzen 7 Pro Processor, 16GB Ram, Integrated GPU, 512GB SSD, 1 Ethernet Port, 2 Thunderbolt 4 Ports, 2 USB 3.2 Gen 1 Ports, 1 HDMI Port

Apple M3 chip with 8-core CPU and 10-core GPU, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports
NOTE: Most engineering software used at Mines is only available on Windows. If preferred, a Mac may still be used with a virtual machine running Windows.

marble meteor
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(they just copied a laptop for the windows one which is why it's so specific)

shadow heart
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wrong market

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Y'all aren't getting it lol

marble meteor
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No this is unrelated sorry

warm cloud
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Apple silicon can’t run boot camp right

tepid wasp
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Chromebooks aren't moderately priced laptops

marble meteor
warm cloud
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He doesn’t know ANYTHING about modern specs or engineering software

marble meteor
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You already have a windows desktop why wouldn't you be able to use a windows lappy lol

shadow heart
# tepid wasp It isn't even competing with the correct market itself

Honestly, Chromebooks aren't even in the correct market if you asked me (actually, there more of in their own market). I feel like the market of this MacBook is going against the $600 Windows laptop competitors
I've yet to have a $600 Windows laptop last me two years tbh. I'm sure this MacBook will last longer than that

warm cloud
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He thinks Apple has the best priced and most powerful computers out there

warm cloud
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I’ve used windows for 2 years

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And now that he’s not letting me get a laptop now, I have to wait to sell my computers for a year so they’ll depreciate

shadow heart
marble meteor
warm cloud
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He’s probably one of the biggest Apple shills alive

shadow heart
warm cloud
desert hazel
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what's the debate about? I wana partake

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Something about apple vs pc?

warm cloud
shadow heart
sharp wing
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this started with the announcement of a lower powered macbook releasing at 600usd

warm cloud
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One is about my dad, one is about apples new incredibly weak laptop

marble meteor
shadow heart
tepid wasp
sharp wing
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personally in a laptop I'd either want a mac or a laptop with decent hardware for linux. im done dealing with windows bs

warm cloud
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Ok the worst thing is the SINGLE USB C PORT THATS ALSO THE CHARGING PORT

desert hazel
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I think the A18 pro chip is really strong for basic tasks and above.

shadow heart
tepid wasp
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No

sharp wing
tepid wasp
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I never reinstalled windows

shadow heart
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How

tepid wasp
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Because it didn't need it

shadow heart
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I think my Legion 5i might be the only laptop I have that'll never need a reinstall to keep it feeling snappy tbh

tepid wasp
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This whole Windows must be reinstalled every X years thing feels like a myth to me

desert hazel
shadow heart
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Even on my desktop I feel like I have to keep reinstalling every two years (tbf though I usually experiment with software VERY frequently and I only started using Revo like late last year)

warm cloud
desert hazel
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8GB RAM is probably the most worrying thing

shadow heart
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Apple: (makes laptop that they've been needing to make for years)
The Internet: (continues as it was)

marble meteor
tepid wasp
shadow heart
warm cloud
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8gb ram, 256gb storage, the a18, one single usb c port

warm cloud
shadow heart
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256GB is going to be the most limiting factor with this MacBook

marble meteor
desert hazel
sharp wing
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it kind of is a myth. imo the application management in windows is pretty horrible. it often leaves residual files all over the place and directories in multiple places with cache and config files. macos at least keeps almost all relative files contained in a .app package and linux package managers are pretty good at cleaning up their mess when uninstalling applications. if you only ever use the same few apps it should be fine but if you do a lot of tinkering windows can feel bloated very quickly and its a nuisance to clean up

warm cloud
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My grandpas Mac m4 used almost 10gb with nothing open

marble meteor
warm cloud
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Fully idle, nothing open, 10gb was being used

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He would constantly run out of ram just browsing

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With 16gb of ram

sharp wing
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the amount of times im thinking "hmm is it in the appdata? appdata roaming? hmm no I think it may be in program files, or no actually program files x86"

marble meteor
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Ram "usage" at idle doesn't mean much. Running out of 16gb while browsing sounds like a memory leak

warm cloud
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It’s not a memory leak

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It quite literally just used that much

marble meteor
warm cloud
sharp wing
tepid wasp
warm cloud
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However that’s 64gb so I don’t think that means much

marble meteor
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Even my 16gb windows laptop doesn't run out while browsing and running a couple other applications

sharp wing
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you cannot compare the ram usage of a unix system to a windows system

marble meteor
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Unused ram is wasted ram

sharp wing
warm cloud
tepid wasp
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They do scatter shot files

warm cloud
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Also

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😭

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16gb ram 512gb storage 8 core laptop cpu

sharp wing
warm cloud
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400$ rn and 450$ regularly

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And it has 5 usb ports, micro sd port and an hdmi port

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And a headphone jack

sharp wing
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i mean heck even rn lol. ofc they aren't all loaded at once but software handles that

warm cloud
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200$ less than the Apple one and it’s 10x more useful

marble meteor
tepid wasp
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Google Chrome needs all your ram to constantly run AI training and spying frfrfrfr

warm cloud
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😭

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You also sent some ones that are far better of a deal then the Apple one

marble meteor
warm cloud
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My friend has that second one

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It’s pretty nice

marble meteor
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Wish they'd cram a numpad on there

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Probably harder to fit vs a 15"

warm cloud
marble meteor
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🐌

shadow heart
marble meteor
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Nooo I'm not a boomer 😭

tepid wasp
warm cloud
marble meteor
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Can't tell if ragebait or

warm cloud
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Both your hands are already on the keyboard

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Lifting your hand off to go type some numbers makes no sense

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Just stretch your fingers a tiny bit more up

marble meteor
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It's for when you're doing a lot of numbers

warm cloud
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Still

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That’s for old people

tepid wasp
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I don't keep both my hands on the keyboard at all times. I didn't take up the system they taught at school derpyBlob

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And I'm glad I don't, that'd give me joint pain after a while

desert hazel
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for apple, i'd probably get it for thin/light to do basic tasks required in the apple ecosystem. it's a decent entry to it.

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it would prevent me from attempting to game a bit more on it and keep it for productivity

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i'm recognizing how simplicity over functionality too after using my ROG Ally vs hearing about the SteamDeck

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the ROG Ally can be annoying to use at times, but it can do a lot more

sharp wing
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what I love about the steam deck is that it's very simple to use but capable of pretty much anything for the tinkerers out there

native narwhal
shadow heart
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We should've been using laptops and tablets about a decade ago. Covid just sped up that process

native narwhal
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I'm homeschooling my kids

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They will not see a single screen until they're 5 at least

spice cedar
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desert hazel
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my rog ally

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😭

spice cedar
desert hazel
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i'm going to use it for browsing the web in a dock too so not for a while

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it's really strong for browsing i think

spice cedar
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Being fr tho

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What is amd doing

desert hazel
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rolling in dough

spice cedar
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The ai dough

tepid wasp
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Product consolidation to maximize margins

spice cedar
desert hazel
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amd is winning in gaming cpu's and value for gpu's

naive robin
chilly moat
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It's unfortunate because I think originally they did it with good intentions, thinking that the knowledge that could be spread by the internet would help them learn much more or something

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But the rot continues

naive robin
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Fair enough

tepid wasp
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Hold up, the math ain't mathing. The basis for the claim of the article is that standardized test scores being lower means that Gen Z is less cognitively capable and that since tech use in school go up and test scores go down, tech = lower congitive capability. The problem is that Gen Z is the first generation to have widespread standardized testing and laptops and such in school hasn't been uniform in adoption.

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Is that to say that unlimited tech usage is good? No. But the argument presented is faulty

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Education has numerous factors impacting outcomes, pointing at tech and saying there is the problem is reductive and misses the bigger picture

chilly moat
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Well gen z is the generation of doomscrolling and gen alpha is truly done for, with them getting exposed to the rot even earlier in life

tepid wasp
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Ah, I just read a substack post the guy being quoted put out in response to the headlines being pushed out

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The change, I would argue, lies largely in the tools we now use to mediate learning.

Screens tend to support cognitive outsourcing rather than deep thinking. The more students rely on easy, supportive digital tools, the less friction they encounter and the less mental effort they must exert. But friction is not a flaw of learning: it is learning.

When school becomes too smooth, too guided, too effortless, thinking itself begins to erode. Accordingly, we should not be surprised when an entire generation educated under these conditions begins to show cognitive declines unlike any we have previously documented.

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So the crux of his statement is actually that learning being difficult not just through the content but also the medium in which it is learnt will make it easier for the students to think.

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Which doesn't make sense to me but whatever

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Obviously he hasn't tried learning coding from a uni completely online with a mediocre teacherderpyBlob

weak ferry
tepid wasp
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My man, every year in NY after the state agreed to comply with Common Core we had some sort of standardized test that was mandatory at the end of the year with most years having multiple tests over the course of two or three weeks. My mother and father didn't do anything like what we did until high school and even then, they didn't do anywhere near as many as we did

weak ferry
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I had standardized tests every year all of 3-8th grade and then one in 10th because wasl only had one in high school. I think wasl alternated subjects for the elementary tests but I never took those. Itbs had all of them at once and I think it was multiple days, can't remember for sure.

tepid wasp
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We had a couple in elementary that were introduced in 2005, I don't really remember the middle school ones but we did at least one-two every year in HS. And none of them even became mandatory for a degree until they got rid of the local diploma iirc

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That was 2015 I think

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Oh, wait no, they stopped trying to phase out the local diploma

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Though apparently Regents and Regents diplomas are being phased out soon

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Anyways, this should probably have stopped being in tech news a while ago

chilly moat
#
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Idiots

sharp wing
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Steam deck ftw

naive robin
marble meteor
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They make surprisingly good gpus

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Some good laptops too

chilly moat
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the odds of this one happening are really low but the timing does not help at all

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oh that was a year ago

naive robin
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5070 i would say is a low risk case

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yeah, i thought so

chilly moat
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idk if i sent the undervolted 5090 link here

chilly moat
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there are leaks on zen 7 also being a large overhaul

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they want to use a14

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the cores themselves will be able to do ai workloads which might entirely eliminate the need for the npu

naive robin
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intel a14?

chilly moat
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nah tsmc

naive robin
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aw

chilly moat
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also about them

naive robin
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tsmc is likely to crank up prices as usual then lol

chilly moat
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amd will not use tsmc for silicon bridges it seems

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there are cheaper guys that do this kind of packaging

naive robin
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probably intel and samsung

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those are the likely ones to be doing that

chilly moat
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no its actually some companies that i forgot the name of

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hold on

naive robin
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hmmm

chilly moat
naive robin
#

i also did hear that intel is assigned to produce apple's m5 chip

chilly moat
# naive robin aw

also because they are jumping over i think two nodes again there should be another core count increase

chilly moat
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zen 6 and 7 are gonna be like zen 2 and zen 3 again

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big leaps and both are on the same platform as prior gens

chilly moat
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oh they have actually worked with amd before

chilly moat
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people have been saying this is possible for a while

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plus they originally wanted to use n2x which had some slippage

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not necessarily a delay but they were optimistic with their guess

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it was on the later end of that estimated launch window

chilly moat
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that stuff is gonna stay on servers

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all they need is something to bridge the dies and nothing more

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these are super thin and completely passive

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not much higher tech than other solutions

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honestly it might be even more simple than foveros because it is just a small die underneath the edges of the two dies

tepid wasp
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I just want to look at tech stuff and not be agonized by current tech news

naive robin
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The delays at this point are not really caused by AI, but rather the node not being ready

tepid wasp
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Is that supposed to make me feel better?

naive robin
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Maybe

chilly moat
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yeah i dont know what caused the n2x slippage

naive robin
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It's equally sad

chilly moat
#

thats company secrets

tepid wasp
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Diverting time to AI focused silicon derpyBlob

naive robin
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And it pains me to realize that microsoft will just absorb openai when it goes kaput

chilly moat
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nah it looks like a14 might be the ai silicon because tsmc big dog said it will cut ai data center power consumption

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i wonder what happened to a16

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well they are just saying the same shit for a16 too so i guess it is just marketing

naive robin
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At the end of the day, a process node is a process node

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There's no sugarcoating it once we dismantle the marketing lenses

chilly moat
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but he is right tho because compared to whatever a20 is

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a16 has 20% less power draw

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i guess a20 is another name for n2

naive robin
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In all of this, I want Intel to really get some customers for its nodes

chilly moat
naive robin
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They've already shown their prowess with panther lake

chilly moat
naive robin
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Yeah the Intel 18A node seems to be pretty good

chilly moat
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so i think they will be fine

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actually that is the most recent

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VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc B390 iGPU puts pressure on AMD in early Panther Lake benchmarks Early benchmarks from independent reviews show Intel's Arc B390 integrated GPU

VideoCardz.com

Petersen: Intel isn’t building a Strix Halo competitor Intel Fellow Tom Petersen told Club386 that Intel is not planning a direct rival to AMD’s Ryzen AI

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i think he is right to question it because rdna 3.5 will be around for years

naive robin
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B390 also wins in low wattage scenarios over 8060S

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They're also apparently releasing a panther lake for handhelds

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Core Ultra G3 is the name iirc

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But man it makes me jealous that my laptop is already becoming obsolete lmao

chilly moat
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in this regard at least

naive robin
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In the CPU side of things, strix halo also takes a dive in single core and multi core

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Panther lake managed to retain most of the performance while delivering staggering battery life

chilly moat
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oh yea the battery thing you were talking about

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i forgot some

naive robin
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You are almost guaranteed with 10 hours+ of battery life on any panther lake configs

chilly moat
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if i had to guess it has to to with being conservative with battery life but i do not remember

naive robin
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Asus messed up somehow tho in a corporate focused laptop, only managed 8 hours

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Maybe a bios patch will fix this

naive robin
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As well as the new voltage regulator that was released with lunar lake

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DLVR

chilly moat
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nah i was meaning for amd performance dip

naive robin
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Ah

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The funny thing is, the battery life point is still irrelevant since Panther lake is still as good in that regard

chilly moat
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oh so that explains why that is a recent thing because laptops in my experience have always been noticeably worse on abttery

naive robin
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All while being able to do more stuff like mentioned

chilly moat
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im always on older stuff though

naive robin
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Lunar lake introduced great battery life, but it lacked in performance

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Panther lake fixed that flaw

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Idk how Intel pulled it off, but they're indeed back on the map

naive robin
chilly moat
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good ol shit battery performance cigarguy4

naive robin
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I manage like 6-8 hours of battery runtime

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On like 25% brightness out of my 250 nits panel

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That is on zen 3 and a 99wh battery with about 86% battery life

chilly moat
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i have no clue what caused that

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shit went from 55% to 45% and now linux tells me i should replace it

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linux in fact is correct

naive robin
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Yeah, that sounds like a busted batt to me

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I have never had such issues on my laptop so far, since I've kept it healthy

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Zen 3+ is alright I guess, but I do notice that perf takes a dive when on battery lmao

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Not even in games, but just watching videos on a browser

chilly moat
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so peak....

naive robin
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Mine doesn't drop frames per say

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The only time I see it drop frames is when I'm on dgpu only mode, and I have a game running in the background while I watch youtube fullscreen