building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

Decent hardware

[autumn moon]

Real

Hp is trash tho

[plucky timber]

Agreed

They self destruct after the warranty

[autumn moon]

Why build good products and reputation when you can scam masses with right marketing

Need ink ? 1k usd year subscription is here to save you! Only from hp

[plucky timber]

They're built like crap

Worse than all of their competitors

[autumn moon]

Built like crap advertised as dreams for dreamers

[plucky timber]

Like

[autumn moon]

People love them

[plucky timber]

You actually either run into a physical quality issue

Or a software one

They're just that bad

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/puter-i-hate-my-puter-i-hate-my-enemies-enemies-gif-11405117639837552777

[autumn moon]

Ye

[plucky timber]

Their mini pcs are decent tho

[autumn moon]

Good luck getting drivers support after 3 years five if you’re lucky

[plucky timber]

But that's enterprise

You DO NOT want to screw over enterprise

Massive cash cow

[lyric thistle]

my experience with hp was at school next to the optiplexes, some ivy lake hardware in either of them, in like 2015-2019

they both worked

the end :3

[autumn moon]

They work until it’s time to stop

3-5 years average

[lyric thistle]

forget when my lenovo power supply coughed and pooped

2020

I think the hardware was from around 2014/2015

[plucky timber]

HP's enterprise stuff is decent

But that's literally because they can't screw over their biggest cash cow

[autumn moon]

HP is a very evil company

very evil

there will be consequences.

[fickle bolt]

what's a good cable extension kit for under 30$?

[north echo]

Could I ask for some input? I want to build my first F you pc. I just started my first high income job and got my doctorate so this is gonna be around 5K USD budget. What im looking for is ideally all white, some anime bs if possible, and to do the smallest build possible. I have an ROG QD oled 4K 240hz monitor already

[muted shore]

Felix left? Sad, he was cool and helped build me a pc

[stoic island]

how small are you looking to do lol

like velka case 3 kinda small or are you looking for matx kind of small

[north echo]

never done a small pc before but it has to fit a 5090 and not totally sacrifice performance

[stoic island]

so more like matx ish small

do you want a front oled screen on the case?

[north echo]

nice but not absolutely necessary

[stoic island]

lemme run some case ideas by you then, would you rather have something bigger but with front touchscreen, or something plainer, smaller, but with a good amount of argb, or something small and sleek?

[north echo]

I love the cleaner smaller look

[stoic island]

Would you rather have the terra there or the lian li a3 here

[north echo]

love the lian li

[stoic island]

lemme go look around and see what other itx options are available now

[stoic island]

How about this jonsbo case that has a front oled panel?

[snow dragon]

that lian li is not itx

[north echo]

thats actually cool i love it

[stoic island]

yea it's matx but looking at vibes not being particular on size, especially if the goal is 5090 lol

[snow dragon]

tru

Yeah the d31 is nice

[stoic island]

tryna figure out GPU thickness constraints in it rn lol

[snow dragon]

If you want smaller you can look at the d32 pro, which is not as deep as the d31 but still as wide and tall

You will lose the screen though

[snow dragon]

I think basically anything will fit but you may have to use slim fans if the card is chungus

[stoic island]

yea I mean I want to figure out if the usual 3.5 slot 5090s would fit lol

[snow dragon]

nvm you should be good

Those are 25mm fans

[stoic island]

length shouldn't be too much of an issue since its up to 400mm

[snow dragon]

Yeah this can take the chungus

Just need to watch the psu height

[stoic island]

Manual says 342-360 with bigger PSU but I'm trying to figure out what determines that range lol

[snow dragon]

Maybe the level

Maybe it will conflict with the cables and not the power supply

[dense ridge]

Hello, anyone have a build list for about $1200-$1500? ive built a pc in the past but sold it and now i wanna build one again. I have peripherals and monitors already just need the pc

[polar void]

What type of monitor do you have

like resolution and refresh rate

and is it only for gaming

and how much storage and ram do you want

and are you ok with it being only amd cpu and gpu

[dense ridge]

i have an asus tuf monitor 240hz. Yes it would be pretty much just gaming and casual use. 2tb minimum. 32gb ram and yeah im fine with amd platform. my old pc was just amd as well

[polar void]

1440p?

meh it doesnt matter

i gotchu

[dense ridge]

nah its 1080

both my monitors are. i use a benq zowie as my secondary

also a 240

[polar void]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrnF2x

in that case price can go down

your choice

[dense ridge]

i think its fine. I've heard alot about montech recently

[dense ridge]

if i were to get a new monitor that's 1440, which would be best for that pc list?

[polar void]

they’re good

[polar void]

you mean like the pc budget? It’d stay the same

currently that list is perfect for 1440p

probably overkill for 1080p

if you do not plan on getting a 1440p monitor

then the action would be to lower the budget maximum

[dense ridge]

alright, how much would a monitor add to the budget? keeping this list

[plucky timber]

errrrrrrrrrrrrrr

what is this value

jesus christ I'm going to fix this up

pretty atrocious ngl

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XFnF2x

This is significantly better for the same price

I'm not even joking the price different is 14 cents

[polar void]

you made everything uglier and upgraded the gpu

[polar void]

a good 1440p 240hz is around 200 bucks these days

[plucky timber]

how is it "uglier"

He also didn't specify aesthetic as a key requirement

[polar void]

@dense ridge do you want asthetics and stuff or a sleeper pc

[plucky timber]

and even on the aesthetic front

there is literally nothing wrong with the parts I've selected

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T2MKrM

I've swapped out the gpu because the other 5070ti wasn't in stock

same price

This will, by no means, be ugly

while offering significantly better performance

[polar void]

ok boomer

[plucky timber]

[dense ridge]

i dont really care, my last pc wasnt aesthetic at all

[polar void]

then yeah get his list

[plucky timber]

is it a 1080p list?

because you can probably just get a 9060XT and save a crap ton of money

[dense ridge]

i have 1080 monitors

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFLKrM

down to $989

[dense ridge]

but i might upgrade

[plucky timber]

for a 9060 XT 8GB

it's your choice if you want to decide if 1440p is worth $500

[polar void]

ok don't recommend that trash cmon

[plucky timber]

what?

[polar void]

even if 1080p

[plucky timber]

If he's using 1080p it's fine

[polar void]

do not buy an 8gb card today

they can do whatever they want but I will not stand by an 8gb card

[dense ridge]

my last card was a 5700xt

msi mech oc

[plucky timber]

that is your opinion

[polar void]

it's shared with 90% of pc gamers and builder today

[plucky timber]

where did you get that statistic

but anyways

[polar void]

that's besides the point

[plucky timber]

the 9060 XT 8GB is $279 and the 9060 XT 16GB is $379 on average

It's perfectly fine for the price

If he's on 1080p it's not that big of a problem

[polar void]

atp get a b580 actually

[plucky timber]

what?

that is straight up bad advice

[polar void]

why is that

this thing easily plays games at high fps on my monitor

[plucky timber]

according to the vast majority of sources online

the software isn't quite there yet

[polar void]

well they're wrong

and intel is updating it very often

this is my firsthand experience i can provide

do you happen to have a 9060xt 8gb

[plucky timber]

"works on my pc" is not a valid argument

[polar void]

if they get a 9600x and a b580 itll be better than mine dude

its not bad

[plucky timber]

This isn't about you

[polar void]

i'm not making it about me

i'm saying a b580 is a better investment for the same or lower price of an 8gb 9060xt

[plucky timber]

that is quite debatable

[polar void]

well then isnt that what we're doing

i know how we can settle this

@dense ridge what games do you play

[plucky timber]

I don't have time for this so I'm just going to lay out my final recommendation

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XFnF2x
This list has the 5070 TI,
alternatively:
9060 XT 8GB for $279
9060 XT 16GB for $379,
depending on how much money you want to spend

ultimately it's up to you too choose, but any of the options would be solid in terms of price/performance

arguably it might not be a bad idea to go for the 16GB 9060XT + a 1440p monitor rather than the 5070 TI, however it's also fine to just stay on 1080p if that's what you would prefer

[polar void]

my final advice: no 8gb cards, they literally asked about a 1440p monitor so that might be the idea for the future and that thing will destroy that gpu, with a b580 itll be great at 1080p and at least be able to carry into 1440p without 1000% vram usage

[dense ridge]

i dont play demanding games but i do enjoy having the higher framerate and better video setting. i know frame gen helps with that now. i mostly play fps tac shooters

[polar void]

call of duty kinds of stuff?

like name some

[dense ridge]

yeah. OW, marvel rivals, battlefield, valorant

games like that

[polar void]

ok then yeah unless you really want to fully max out a high end 1440p monitor then get a 9060xt 16gb or a b580

heck even at 1440p a b580 would stomp rivals, ow, and valorant

not sure abt battlefield

[dense ridge]

so stick with the 1080 and get a 9060xt 16gb for room to upgrade to 1440p if i end up doing that

[polar void]

perfecto

an 8gb would need to be resold bc it is not gonna have a good time at 1440p

9060xt 16gb will do very nice in comparison to a 5700xt and in general to a 1440p

[polar void]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6cKbMC this leaves you with room to get more aesthetically pleasing parts, fancy way of saying rgb and pretty colors

if you like that case i recommend a 240mm aio though

that air cooler is very bulky

[dense ridge]

i was gonna say that i was leaning more towards an aio than just an air cooler

[polar void]

alr one second

[polar void]

some nice options from a great brand
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zcgrxr/thermalright-frozen-prism-argb-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-240-black-argb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qJcgXL/thermalright-frozen-infinity-240-argb-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-infinity-240-black
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zP88TW/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-240-black-argb

of course you can get any brand and model, these are just what I recommend based on price to value

[dense ridge]

that last one is pretty nice

[polar void]

indeed

[polar void]

and if you are going with that, do you want your ram to light up too

[dense ridge]

hm, i dont mind seeing some options but im kinda eh about ram lighting up

[polar void]

one momento

[polar void]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CXKKHx/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-tz5nr
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NWhv6h/kingston-fury-beast-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-kf560c30bbeak2-32

[dense ridge]

yeahh, no. i think im good with just plain sticks. the case he recommended and the aio you did has plenty of rgb for me

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjrhHW

this is what i ended up with

[snow dragon]

I dont think you would even use 8 gigs even at 1440p

battlefield is light on vram too

[stoic island]

hey @north echo gonna continue from yesterday, gonna start with a VERY overpriced and wasting a lot of money list to work DOWN from, but starting with some ideas for looks and options
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7D6jFZ

[snow dragon]

Last night I learned that mobo bifurcation is binary

If there is another m.2 installed on the board that will bifurcate, then it bifurcates no matter what

I thought it would be able to tell if there was a drive not using 4 lanes but it cannot

The slots are physically wired to use 4 lanes and will use 4 no matter what

Now I have no idea why the 990 evo plus exists

[stoic island]

It's built to be a 4.0x4 drive, they just add a 5.0x2 option so they can say it's PCIe 5.0 lol

[snow dragon]

[north echo]

this is a great list! ive never heard of super flower tho

[naive anchor]

Can somebody help me change my build?

I need to get the graphics card below 800

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TKr7QP

Is a 5070ti good?

I just don’t know which model

[stoic island]

They're a pretty big OEM, Leadex iii has a pretty good reputation for example, they were also the OEM for EVGA's G2/P2/T2 line. The Leadex VII Pro itself has been reviewed very well, but the biggest reason it's in the list instead of like cybercore is that it's white and fits the theme lol
https://hwbusters.com/psus/super-flower-leadex-vii-xp-1200w-atx-v3-0-psu-review/

[stoic island]

You can probably shave a bit of money off CPU, mobo, and PSU and then fit in a 5080 depending on budget, if not, 9070xt would be nice, but any 5070ti can work too

[naive anchor]

What should I change the items to?

[stoic island]

What are you going to use it for?

[naive anchor]

Gaming and editing

[stoic island]

can shave $100 off and do 7700x, good enough performance for gaming and practically same performance in editing, the main goal is the money saved going into a GPU upgrade that outweighs a slight CPU downgrade

[naive anchor]

And then should I change mono or psu?

mobo*

[stoic island]

Assuming original total budget was ~$2000, something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XDxjFZ

[naive anchor]

Ye*

I alr got ram and case btw

[stoic island]

as long as you got it at a good price

would just return and buy again if it's more than like $20 over what's in the list lol

[plucky timber]

Yeah that was what I was going at too

Was in a rush to get to a lecture so

Well if it's 1440p I'd get 16GB regardless to accommodate all games

But for 1080p 8GB is fine

Especially if it's $279

[snow dragon]

I think I had like 5 gigs used in bf6

[plucky timber]

On 1440p?

This really just shows that the high vram usage is a studio being stingy issue

They have incentive to optimize here because the game relies on a large and active playerbase

[snow dragon]

Yeah

I was on medium though

But the game still looked good so I didnt bother to turn it up

[polar void]

Are you ok with mounting the aio on the front?

That case won't fit a 360 on top itll fit a 240 on top

and a 360 on the front

[dense ridge]

wouldnt front mount be ideal since the pump shouldnt be taller than the cpu block? or does that only apply when its front mounted

[dense ridge]

i see

[polar void]

not saying therell be that much air in it at the start

but itll eventually, gradually build up

[dense ridge]

i like the top mount look more tbh

[polar void]

and besides its only a ryzen 5, a 240mm would be perfect for it

[crimson zinc]

Who tf puts an AIO on the bottom what the hell

[polar void]

the fact its in the demonstration means someone did at one point 😔

[fickle bolt]

hopefully nobody

[fickle bolt]

when today's saftey meeting is about what you did yesterday

[polar void]

lol

[stoic island]

It used to be pretty frequent in ITX cases

[snow dragon]

If the pump isn’t in the center then maybe could you have it be on the bottom by rotating the block and get away with the bottom rad mount

If the punp is somewhere else then it doesn’t matter

[polar void]

punp

[snow dragon]

fr

[snow dragon]

[autumn wolf]

imma post here as well chat since idk how many people actually use the network channel, but is this a good or decent enough router? replacing the spectrum router

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-AX1800-Router-RT-AX1800S-Subscription-Free/dp/B09M9477NS/

[stoic island]

Rtings says decent enough
https://www.rtings.com/router/reviews/asus/rt-ax1800s

[autumn wolf]

actually for $10 more this is better, no?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTTZVVNC/

oh wait thats why i linked that first one cause this one is out of stock

might wait for it to come back in stock and get that one instead

[autumn wolf]

nvm, just gonna buy the first one when i get paid tomorrow

spectrum is so ass. shit went out again

[snow dragon]

I got this at micro center

https://a.co/d/hVIygsg

no 6ghz though

[plucky timber]

https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-mt3000/

I got this

[snow dragon]

There is a wifi 7 one too

https://a.co/d/bla3gEe

[plucky timber]

These lil things are really damn good

This tiny router runs my whole lab

[valid hollow]

Will finish this tonight- but my personal build is almost complete. 1800$ 7800X3D/5080 FE

[rare plover]

is the 7600xt a good gpu for general use and light 1440p gaming? since its the only gpu that isnt pre owned and has 16gb of vram i found that is in my budget, and i dont really want to gamble with the arc b580

paired with a 7400 or 7500f

9060xt 8gb is the same price and ive seen it also performs well, but the extra vram can help

or should i go with a 13400 build for a similar price

[weary galleon]

Nah stick with 7500F

[rare plover]

alr

7400f also good right

[weary galleon]

Uhh lemme check

[rare plover]

its like a 40 dollar difference and only a 5% increase in performance

[weary galleon]

Yeah probably worth it, looks like the difference is 4.7ghz vs 5.0 and thermal paste instead of solder

You're right that for 1440p you want more than 8gb

[rare plover]

would an arctic 34 be enough for the 7400f?

6 pipes i think and a 120mm fan

[weary galleon]

7600xt is ok but if you could stretch to a 9600xt 16gb that might be more worth it

[rare plover]

no too much

[weary galleon]

Idk. If you don't have a cooler just get a thermalright assassin 120

[rare plover]

could try to do that but then i have to cut corners for the mb or case fans

[weary galleon]

Do you have a pcpp list?

[rare plover]

not available in my country and i prefer to buy everything locally cus my father has a tax return thing

[rare plover]

no cus not us market

[weary galleon]

Ah

There's some regional versions depending where you are

[rare plover]

7400f
arctic 34
gigabyte b650 plus wifi

flare x 6000 cl36

[weary galleon]

The Arctic cooler should be fine if you can't get thermalright

[rare plover]

ok thx

can also get an uh

wait

freezer xtreme

holy cooling

[weary galleon]

You don't need anything crazy for the 7400f

Just get a tower with a 120mm fan

[rare plover]

ok

[rare plover]

i'll try to make a list 1 sec

[rare plover]

between these 2 which one should i get

non plus cheaper but also has 2 ram slots and a vga port i will never ever use

[weary galleon]

Am5 doesn't really like 4 ram sticks anyways

Plus model has better VRMs likely but that shouldn't matter for a 7400f

[rare plover]

oke

[rare plover]

should i get aegis or flare x

[weary galleon]

If you could get 6000cl32 or 6200cl30 those would be more ideal

[rare plover]

no too much

[rare plover]

are gigabyte cards good or should i go with a sapphire pulse for safety

kinda want a 3 fan card but only the gigabyte is available for the 7600

[weary galleon]

I would get the cheapest one

You don't need 3 fans for a 7600/9600

[rare plover]

i heard sapphire has better quality tho

[rare plover]

ok so ill take the pulse

[weary galleon]

Only really matters for high-end cards

[rare plover]

ok

bruh why google translate so shit

CPU – AMD Ryzen 5 7400F AM5 (Tray)

CPU Cooler – Arctic Cooling Freezer 34 (AMD/Intel compatible, AM5/AM4/1200/115X)

Motherboard – Gigabyte B650M GAMING WIFI6E

Memory (RAM) – G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL36 EXPO/XMP 3.0

Case – Lian-Li A3 Wood and Glass Edition (Black)

Case Fans – Antec P12 PWM 120mm (x3 Fans)

Power Supply (PSU) – CoolerMaster MWE GOLD 750W - V2 Full Modular

Graphics Card (GPU) – Sapphire Pulse Rx 7600XT 16gb ddr6

Storage (SSD) – Apacer SSD 1TB AS350 Panther 2.5" SATA3

[weary galleon]

Just FYI the 9600xt is a lot faster than the 7600xt, I'd highly recommend going for it instead. Could get a cheaper case, single 16gb stick, and cheaper mobo

https://www.techspot.com/photos/article/2996-amd-radeon-9060-xt/#1440-png

Or just wait a bit and save up

[rare plover]

i like a3 cus its well built for my desk layout, and i need a wifi motherboard

[rare plover]

And the plain gray one is ugly as shit

i mean this could work

[polar void]

one stick of ddr5

[polar void]

yes one stick of ddr5

[rare plover]

yes

i put 1 stick

[polar void]

yes

hence why i said

one stick of ddr5

[rare plover]

uh

sure pal

[fickle bolt]

one stick of ddr5

one stick of ddr5

[rare plover]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-hypnotize-singing-despicable-me-gif-15465828745582198891

[polar void]

one stick of ddr5

one stick of ddr5

one stick of ddr5

[weary galleon]

You can get wifi cards as well to put in a non wifi mobo. Might save $ depending on the prices of each

Could also do a 7700xt if that's cheaper than 9600xt

[rare plover]

Pulse 7700 is 1960 and pulse 9060 is 1930

[weary galleon]

9060xt 16gb?

Also how much is the 7600xt?

[rare plover]

Yea

[rare plover]

1650

same price as 8gb 9060

I dont get why they didn’t do like the 7600

For the 9060, xt being 16gb and non xt being 8gb

[weary galleon]

So 1930/1650=1.17
70/49=1.429
you'd pay 17% more for 40% more perf

[fickle bolt]

one stick of ddr5

one stick of ddr5
one stick of ddr5

[rare plover]

7700 has more raw power but 9060 can top cus of mroe vram and better architecture right

[weary galleon]

7700xt and 9060xt are both 16gb I think? And have similar performance, see the chart I sent

[rare plover]

No 7700 is 12

[weary galleon]

Ah

That's fine for 1440p but for your pricing the 9060xt 16gb is def better

[rare plover]

Yea but 9060xt has better ray tracing

[rare plover]

^

[weary galleon]

Ok recap: ignore 7700xt, try and save up to get the 9060xt16gb instead of the 7600xt

[rare plover]

Oke

[rare plover]

What if i get a 16gb stick and get the same one again later

[weary galleon]

9060xt 16gb is about 17% more $ for 40% more perf

[rare plover]

So i have 32gb

[weary galleon]

Yeah that's what I was suggesting. 16gb will be alright in most games and then you can upgrade later

Also a single stick of ddr5 works better than single stick ddr4 did

[rare plover]

Gee

Shocker

[rare plover]

If i get a motherboard without wifi and put a pcie wifi card will it be worse than a motherboard with built in wifi tho

[weary galleon]

As long as you get a decent wifi card (pcie slot not USB) it should be just as good

[rare plover]

Do i need drivers and stuff for that tho

[weary galleon]

Windows typically handles it iirc

Ive used a wifi card for years but I don't recall the install

[rare plover]

and since its a micro atx build i dont think there will be enough room tho

[weary galleon]

Probably should be an open pcie slot to use

[rare plover]

Eh just gonna go with a built in wifi mb

[rare plover]

Im planning to buy around November so if i dont have enough for a 16gb 9060xt by that time should i get a 16 gb 7600xt or 8gb 9060xt

[weary galleon]

Probably the 7600xt. 8gb is getting rough for 1440p these days

[rare plover]

Ok

[rare plover]

My 1060 got good fps at wt in 1440p movie but vram was maxed

So i think the 7600xt will be even better

[weary galleon]

yeah it will be a big jump but the 9060xt 16gbbis much better value. Def try and get it if you can. Maybe ask for a bit of extra $ as an early holiday present or something idk

[rare plover]

Need moner for driving lessons too tho

I’ll try to get the pc with my father

[fickle bolt]

one stick of ddr5

[rare plover]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-hypnotize-singing-despicable-me-gif-15465828745582198891

[fickle bolt]

one stick of ddr5

[lunar abyss]

Should I buy this I only play games like gta Roblox Fortnite small stuff nothing really big

[rare plover]

How much

[lunar abyss]

It’s listed for 250 but I can prob get it for 200

[lunar abyss]

He has good reviews on Facebook

[rare plover]

Euro? Or usd?

[lunar abyss]

USD

[lunar abyss]

He has good reviews

[rare plover]

Uh idk seems pretty good for Fortnite and Roblox but no idea about GTA it can get pretty demanding sometimes i think

[lunar abyss]

The only problem he said is the screen but it don’t look like that big of a problem

[lunar abyss]

Is it a good starter laptop for the price

[rare plover]

yes

[lunar abyss]

Starter gaming

[rare plover]

could work

[lunar abyss]

Is it worth me buying

[rare plover]

i dont really trust laptops for gaming anymore so idk, maybe try getting like 500 more bucks and get a better one or build a pc

[lunar abyss]

I already have a gaming pc

[lunar abyss]

I just wanted a laptop for developing

[rare plover]

then why do you need a laptop

[rare plover]

as in

cs?

or

[lunar abyss]

I’m a Roblox developer

[rare plover]

oh

idk

[lunar abyss]

All the games I play are on my pc

So I don’t really need the laptop for playing games just mainly developing

[rare plover]

then could work ig but idk if roblox developing is more cpu or gpu intense, i assume cpu

wait for someone else who isnt an idiot (not me) to answer ig

[lunar abyss]

Ok

[icy thunder]

Anyone able to join vc and help me get this pc to post

Just built the thing and not getting any video sadly

Everything lights up and all fans turn on

Mobo doesnt have debug lights and there are no beeps

If i unplug the hdmi cable the monitor says no signal like it detected something

[polar void]

do you still need help

[icy thunder]

Please

[icy thunder]

Yes please

[polar void]

https://discord.com/channels/500085440221806603/598291909559058433

eh?

did it work

[polar void]

https://www.amazon.com/SynHHergyx-Motherboard-Computer-Speakers-Internal/dp/B0DHZQ485W/ref=sr_1_5

https://www.amazon.com/Diagnostic-Measuring-Computer-Motherboard-Diagnostics/dp/B08QRCDR9D/ref=sr_1_3

Gl

[dusty orbit]

My pc keeps crashing every 30-40 min, when i went to event viewer these are the error codes I got for the crash 0x00000116 (0xffffce82355f1010, 0xffff8073dbbaae0, 0xfffffffc00009a, 0x0000000000000004).

It says it is a problem with the GPU but I just replaced it with a brand new one and updated drivers

Any idea what it could be?

[crimson zinc]

Did you ddu it?

[dusty orbit]

Yep

also the gpu uses a gpu riser/exteension idk if that matters

[stoic island]

good old nvldmkm lol
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/bug-check-0x116---video-tdr-failure

[stoic island]

DDU and roll back drivers to pre-572

[dusty orbit]

i did a ddu i dont think its drivers I literally replaced the gpu as well

some ppl tell me it could be motherboard

cpu

ram

psu

[stoic island]

Unless it's a very weird edge case, it's storage or drivers

The bug check itself has to do with the graphics drivers hanging and timing out

Either it's a driver issue, or it's something stopping the drivers from restarting correctly

[stoic island]

Nvidia GPU? Replacing GPU doesn't do anything for the drivers, it's still the same install of the same drivers, no matter what Nvidia GPU you use

Same thing applies to AMD GPU too on that front too

It's just Nvidia drivers have been very buggy

[dusty orbit]

ok il try to do what u said, if that doesnt work then what do i do

[stoic island]

I'd start with DDU and then installing an old driver version, like 566.36

if nothing, suspect the drive and something to do with windows corruption, check drive health, run dism and sfc

[dusty orbit]

What makes you think its the drive

[snow dragon]

He is just saying if not the driver then maybe the drive

Probably your driver though

[dusty orbit]

I did the DDU and still same thing

I don’t see how it could be the drive tho

Maybe fault mobo?

[snow dragon]

Did you install the same driver

[dusty orbit]

I installed the newest one

[snow dragon]

Yea he said to roll back

[dusty orbit]

But I had an older driver a few days ago and it was still happening

[snow dragon]

What was the old one

[dusty orbit]

I don’t remember

[snow dragon]

Oh you said a few days ago

So still pretty recent

Get an older one and then ddu again

[dusty orbit]

Probably but if it’s a problem with nvidias drivers then more ppl would be having this issue

[snow dragon]

Maybe there are

But these can be a person to person thing

I have used radeon for 7 years and have had no problems

Some people have actual nightmare scenarios with radeon

[snow dragon]

*major problems

Everyone has some kind of small issue at some point but I never had something crazy happen

[dusty orbit]

I bought the pc off marketplace so I think it’s a hardware problem

I replaced the GPU so it’s def not that

So I think either the mobo, gpu extension or the drive like he said

[snow dragon]

oh so thats completely ruled out then

[snow dragon]

is this a pcie 5 card

[snow dragon]

actually no

still try an older driver first

[dusty orbit]

K I’ll try now

[dusty orbit]

How do I check

It’s an Rtx 4060

[snow dragon]

pcie 4

do you know what the riser is

[dusty orbit]

Yes

Pcie 4

[snow dragon]

ok i still want you to try an older nvidia driver just to be sure

then we move on to the other things instead

some people are still on the older nvidia drivers because nvidia drivers have been all over the place this year

[dusty orbit]

The case is very small, to the point where the gpu has to be on the backside of the case with rhe riser. How would I directly connect it to the mobo since it won’t fit in the front

I’m installing them now

[dusty orbit]

Same shit

[snow dragon]

Damn

[tulip swift]

Hi all, hopefully this is the right channel to ask this in. it's been a while since I've built a pc and I read that applying your own thermal paste isn't needed as much anymore? this build isn't going to be top of the line, but i am using a liquid-cooled cpu cooler for the first time. thoughts?

[lyric thistle]

when the cooler comes with paste preapplied, you don't need to bring your own or apply it

you just need to peel the plastic on the cooler that's covering the paste, then install it

[tulip swift]

ok great. this one does. ty!!

[pseudo pollen]

quick question, does higher speed ram really make a difference? (eg: ddr5 6000 cl28 vs 7600 cl36)

[plucky timber]

Depends on the scenario

And depends on the silicon

Most Zen 5 can't actually run 6400 CL32

If the given application is highly cpu dependent you will see improvements

[weary galleon]

Lower cas latency can help with 1/0.1% lows

You can also calculate the latency with something like https://www.techpowerup.com/dram-latency/

6000cl28 is 9.3ns while 7000cl36 is 10.3

[pseudo pollen]

I'm running a 14700k rn

[pseudo pollen]

I think I'll still be GPU bottlenecked in most games, I'm just wondering if it's worth spending the extra $50 more

During photo editing/upscaling I'm definitely cpu bound

[dusty orbit]

My pc keeps crashing every 30-40 min, when i went to event viewer this is the error codes I got 0x00000116 (0xffffce82355f1010, 0xffff8073dbbaae0, 0xfffffffc00009a, 0x0000000000000004).

It says it is a problem with the GPU but I just replaceed it with a brand new one, did a DDU, and updated drivers

Any idea what it could be?

[rare plover]

are f12 5 packs good for a budget build

ik theyre non pwm

would it be better to buy 2 5 packs of f12s which are DC fans or 2 3 packs of p12s which are PWM fan

s

[weary galleon]

PWMs

[rare plover]

Ok

[oak sequoia]

Hi guys, i was wondering if someone could help me find a laptop suitable to play marvel rivals for my girlfriend. she'd prefer if the look of the laptop was simple and not over the top. if anyone could find one in the 700 and below range thatd be great. thank you

[pseudo pollen]

depends on the resolution you're playing at (I'm assuming 1080p), but you might want to look on facebook marketplace for something like a asus zephyrus g14 with a 3060

not sure if you're ok with used but this is a good option https://www.ebay.com/itm/116757806792

[oak sequoia]

thank you. ill ask her to see if shes interested in that one

[fickle bolt]

https://a.co/d/dgkhtI8 is this a good kit

[icy thunder]

ordered those speakers and they said it was delivered but didnt

pain

[fickle bolt]

whats the issue?

@leaden wigeon

[dusty cedar]

you spent a whole lot of time typing absolutely nothing and not asking a single thing.

• i turned my pc off
• didn't build pc
• one massive run on sentenace about asking a question and then never asking a question.

[fickle bolt]

Noted

[polar void]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-26918549

[dusty cedar]

why dont you just ask the question instead of forwarding whatever that rambling nonsense was?

[plucky timber]

I don't see anything wrong with what he did

The other guy asked a question in a channel he is unlikely to get help in

This gentlemen here forwarded it to the correct channel and asked for additional context

The hostility towards someone who's just trying to refer another person to get help in the proper channel is quite unneeded

That being said

@leaden wigeon could you provide more context on your inquiry earlier in #gaming ?

[fickle bolt]

Because he didn't actually ask the question, and I want to know what he was asking, obviously

[dusty cedar]

ObViOuSlY it wasnt very obvious now was it

[plucky timber]

Gentlemen

This is #building-and-recc-chat

[dusty cedar]

speaking of. when did the name get changed?

[plucky timber]

Let's focus on actually helping the guy

[fickle bolt]

Dude if your gonna be like that you can just be quiet

I'm actually tryna help someone

You're just creating a conflict for some reason

[dusty cedar]

its pretty annoying when its just 1 run on sentence with no question. how can help be provided with no question and the only clue is "i turned my pc off tee hee" bro come on

[fickle bolt]

The fact that they don't know how to ask questions should not be a reason for them to not be helped

[plucky timber]

It's also no excuse to be rude

[dusty cedar]

should i instead pretend i am jesus and can say no wrong and only unicorns and rainbow farts are the norm. ask a question and help can be received. its pretty straightforward. no reason to beat around the bush

[plucky timber]

If you don't want to help you don't have to help

Nobody's forcing you

[fickle bolt]

Ok first of all that is not what Jesus said at all

I would know, being a devout Anglican

Second, that's religion shaming and ragebait, which I'm pretty sure is breaking some rule

[plucky timber]

Ok gentlemen

If you two want to argue

Take it elsewhere

Not in #building-and-recc-chat

[dusty cedar]

oh my mighty blue role techy. since you are clearly the superior neckbeard in this conversation and above all with your infinite amounts of wisdom and endless amounts of politeness and political correctness, forgive me for i am at your not at all hypocritical mercy. please tell me how i can be a "better" person and answer questions where none were asked.

[plucky timber]

@sullen spoke

[dusty cedar]

hi @sullen spoke

[fickle bolt]

@wide sparrow

[wide sparrow]

what happened?

[dusty cedar]

did it ever occure to you that i'm trying to help but none can be proveded since there is no question

[plucky timber]

Excessive toxicity after QMK forwarded a message from another user

[dusty cedar]

dude taking everything im syin out of context and is mad about it

[wide sparrow]

Hmmm

[fickle bolt]

Called vim a neckbeard, shamed religion, and acted in a toxic manner

After I asked a guy what his tech issue was

[dusty cedar]

shamed religion? lmfao what a reach you got

[plucky timber]

Mind you, he wasn't even involved in the conversation

[wide sparrow]

I’m reading…

[plucky timber]

He just decided to come in and insult people

[dusty cedar]

anyways, where is the question so help can be provided

[fickle bolt]

This is defo religion shaming

[dusty cedar]

you should change your name to stretch armstrong

[plucky timber]

Ok that's a stretch

That's a figure of speech

That doesn't constitute religion shaming

[dusty cedar]

its all a figure of speech. long and drawn out

[fickle bolt]

Wait actually yeah no ur right

[plucky timber]

smh

[wide sparrow]

Alright now, settle down. I’ve read what happened so far and you seem to be on edge here. Just forget about what happened and move on or I might have to mute you for awhile.

No need to be agitated. Mistakes were made…but nothing serious

[dusty cedar]

im not on edge. im being attacked by being confused about the post. someone wants help, talks endlessly about questions and about wanting help but never asks a question to get help. it would be cool to help but how? but i do actually think its awesome that you took the time to read the sequence of events instead of kneejerk reacting to the first accusation. youre an awesome person for that one. not many like you left on social media.

[wide sparrow]

Well thank you. We can just end this peacefully. You seem reasonable

[dusty cedar]

i try to be. anyways, off to go do goose things in goose land

[plucky timber]

@leaden wigeon please describe the issues you are experiencing in detail

[rare plover]

For around the same price would it be better to get an am4 R7 build or an am5 R5 build

[mortal kayak]

Always go AM5 at this point. DDR5 already costs the same as DDR4, and the upgrade path will treat you well down the road

[rare plover]

Ok

[mortal kayak]

@leaden wigeon
What issue did you have when turning on your PC?
Can you list out all your specs? Or if it's a prebuilt PC can you tell us the model number?
What did you do to resolve it?

[polar void]

i think he isnt gonna respond

[mortal kayak]

Well if he does, feel free to ping me

[restive halo]

Anyone build retro gaming set ups? I have a couple questions

[plucky timber]

Define "retro"

[snow dragon]

bro annoying ngl

[restive halo]

@plucky timber Looking to build a console for my kids to play gameboy up to ps3 games on the tv

Sorry I was putting my kids to bed

anyone on?

[polar void]

we don't really specialize in custom modded consoles

we build pcs

I recommend you find a server for console modding or smth like that

[plucky timber]

That is not what he is looking for

[plucky timber]

PS3 would be the most tricky part

What is your budget?

The hardware requirements for RPCS3 is quite high compared to other emulators

Might unironically be cheaper to have a ps3 + emulation machine

In which case you can just get an optiplex and just slap in a gpu

A ryzen APU might be cheaper though?

Zen+ APUs might be cheap on ebay so I would suggest that you start your search there (If you do decide to limit your scope to exclude PS3)

Although it is noteworthy that ps3 emulation is not that consistent

Some titles have less hardware requirements than other

Cell architecture shenanigans

[restive halo]

I already build pc's. I just never tried the console route. Im intrigued

[plucky timber]

You don't even need a modded console

[restive halo]

I have extra parts
Ryzen 5 2600
Asus Prime B550
Rx 6500xt

[plucky timber]

Oh wtf

That might be able to do ps3

[restive halo]

Just trying to find the cheapest parts to make it a full set and as small as possible

[plucky timber]

Would you need an optical drive

[restive halo]

Would the optiplex be better?

No

[plucky timber]

No

You have perfectly good hardware

[restive halo]

Ram, hd, psu, case

As cheap and small as possible lol

[plucky timber]

There is the conundrum

Small form factors tend to not be cheap

[restive halo]

Ok the as small as cheap will allow hahahaha

https://a.co/d/2j4OPQK

[plucky timber]

How much storage do you need?

[restive halo]

Im not sure 1tb?

I have never done this before so im not sure how much space it takes honestly

[tribal hedge]

Can anyone help me find a good white rgp cooler and also lmk if i need to change anything? My budgets £1000

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t3VYxg

[restive halo]

@plucky timber I saw a video on Batocera that looked nice.

[plucky timber]

Is the motherboard matx?

If it is

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7GvVNz

[plucky timber]

Do you prefer an AIO

Completely unnecessary

In terms of performance

You're only considering aesthetics here

[tribal hedge]

Not really, most of the people ive spoken too have said its a good build

the aesthetics are a preference but this should be able to handle high end gaming + me streaming

[plucky timber]

Alright

Gonna fix up the list a bit

It's quite unoptimized

[molten pebble]

Is a 6500XT slower than a 1660Ti

I gotta check

yeah it is

[tribal hedge]

Okay

[molten pebble]

so one of my best friends plays RPCS3 on his computer which has a R7 3800X and 1660Ti, he built at the end of 2019

[plucky timber]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xdjcXR

[plucky timber]

It's also free so

Even if he can't play ps3 he can still play most of games

No loss here

[molten pebble]

Officially, B550 motherboards don't support Ryzen 2000 CPUs. You'll wanna check for your particular motherboard on the CPU support list.
Additionally if it does work, 6500XT will suffer a bit of performance loss since the R5 2600 can only handle PCIe3.0, and it's already only about the same speed as a 1650 Super or RX580.

[polar void]

rx 580 level is plenty

[plucky timber]

Ehhh

Depends

[restive halo]

Let me check

[plucky timber]

Ps3 emulation has some quirks

[molten pebble]

I'm more concerned about the 3.0 limit

6500XT only has 4 lanes

[plucky timber]

Absolutely idiotic gpu btw

AMD moment

[molten pebble]

This was a shortage launch

they didn't need it to be good, they needed it to exist

[plucky timber]

I don't think that's any excuse

Even the 5500xt would've been a better buy

[molten pebble]

It's not, I'm simply stating why they got away with it

[plucky timber]

Fair

[tribal hedge]

What are the differences from the mother boards?

[plucky timber]

It's cheaper

Neither of these boards can take an X3D so

No reason to splurge when it doesn't matter

[tribal hedge]

Oh i see

[molten pebble]

can't take an X3D what

[plucky timber]

The vrms on the msi can handle most Ryzens fine

[tribal hedge]

is the performance better or worse?

[plucky timber]

You don't really measure performance on a motherboard

[tribal hedge]

I meant between the two builds

[plucky timber]

Oh wait this is 7+2+1 hmmm

Ehhhh

Cutting it fine

With an X3D

It might actually not be unreasonable to put an X3D in here

I wouldn't personally do it

[plucky timber]

It's not worse

[molten pebble]

It depends on the X3D chip tbh.

7000 X3D chips don't draw power like you're making it seem

they can't with the way they're designed

[plucky timber]

I have a high margin of safety

[molten pebble]

9000X3D though, those take real power

[plucky timber]

I usually account in absolutely horrendous airflow

Into my safety factor

[tribal hedge]

So that build has better airflow

[molten pebble]

in a vacuum, that's totally fair

[plucky timber]

Eh?

[molten pebble]

When we know somebody's getting a case that doesn't suck completely

[plucky timber]

No

[molten pebble]

then we can factor that in

[plucky timber]

It's also a rather mundane point

[tribal hedge]

Your confusing me

Thanks for the help

[plucky timber]

Since they are in fact not using an X3D

It's points to consider on the future

But not really that relevant at this time

[restive halo]

@plucky timber @molten pebble

[plucky timber]

I personally still wouldn't put an X3D on anything less than an 8 phase

[plucky timber]

Should just work

ASUS officially says they don't support it

Doesn't mean that the bios doesn't contain the microcode

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jijltl/who_said_zen_doesnt_run_on_b550/

Not the most reliable source

But there's no reason to indicate that it won't work unless you've installed a recent bios version that had zen+ microcode removed for newer cpus

[restive halo]

Ok ill just have to try it and hope for the best lol

[plucky timber]

It wouldn't hurt to try

[restive halo]

Do you think 1tb will be enough?

[plucky timber]

Worse case scenario you get a used b450

[plucky timber]

That's something that you'll have to figure out

It depends on how many games you want to install

If you want to keep literally everything

Even the ps2 library can fill up a 1TB ssd

[plucky timber]

Although that looks like a B550M-A wifi?

If it's a more recent board it might not have the zen+ microcode

In any case, doesn't cost (additional) money to test it

I'd also recommend getting used memory

8gb ddr4 3200 cl16 sticks shouldn't be too uncommon for low prices on eBay or such

[restive halo]

Heard

I appreciate all the help

[plucky timber]

Although with $30...

If it had free shipping it might end up being cheaper

In any case it'd be a good idea to be on the lookout for used memory and potentially a b450

[restive halo]

I dont buy used only because I dont know enough about the market. Unless you have links lol

[mortal kayak]

This is a motherboard that got pulled from a prebuilt

Where did you get this motherboard from?

It originally was supplied as part of an Asus ROG pre-built that would have looked like this:

CPU support is going to be rough because, frankly, Asus made this board specifically for the pre-built it came in, and they typically don't have a reason to add a bunch of CPU support on this type of board. So your idea to use a Ryzen 5 2600 on it may be out the window. I'll check

https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/g15dk/helpdesk_bios/
You'd have to specifically use the BIOS files located on this support page, using the ones for the Asus Prime B550M-K (that's the model number, partially blocked by the SSD thermal pad) may or may not work, and may or may not straight-up brick the board if you were to try flashing one of those.
Still doesn't guarantee any particular CPU support, I'm still looking into that piece of this

[mortal kayak]

The retail version of the Asus Prime B550M-K doesn't support any Ryzen 2000 CPUs, so it's extremely unlikely the OEM version you have would

AMD chipsets are a bit finicky with this stuff.
B550 and A520 don't officially support Ryzen 2000, when they launched they only supported Ryzen 3000, and BIOS updates added support later for newer AM4 chips from the 4000G and 5000 series. Some B550 boards got support later for Ryzen 2000 series chips, but it wasn't supported at launch, so that's on a board-by-board basis. Yours is unfortunately not one that got support. A motherboard with a B450 chipset would be a good match for your Ryzen 5 2600, and earlier boards with A320 or B350 chipsets would also work with the Ryzen 5 2600 provided the BIOS on the board is new enough to support it.

[restive halo]

Thank you

[icy thunder]

Twas the cpu

[polar void]

I knew it

[icy thunder]

Sad but at least its working

[polar void]

Yup

What cpu did you get

[icy thunder]

The speaker didnt help btw

Still didnt beep until i got it to post

5800xt

[polar void]

Did you plug it in the right slot

and or try flipping it over

[icy thunder]

Only zen4 my local bestbuy had lol

Yeah the speaker beeps now that it posts lol

[polar void]

oh

well then ig its for if the cpu works and some other thing doesnt

[icy thunder]

Yeah

[cyan citrus]

Don't know if asking in here is the best place or another channel, but I was hoping to chat with folks about 5080 or 5090 powered laptops. Before you say "don't" and "you don't need it", my use case very much supports it.

anyone own one and care to share anything good or bad?

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon ?

[crisp sun]

I'm guessing it'll run real hot and take a lot of power depending on the power setting and how optimized the power draw is. Laptop will need cooling. Bigger laptops will be better for airflow, but bulkier overall.

[polar void]

carterpcs has a 5090 laptop and did a couple shorts on it i believe

on yt

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jIh3-zuLTgQ

[fickle bolt]

unless portability and power are two things you absolutely need to maximize, I'd get a pc

[plucky timber]

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what they're looking for

This isn't really constructive advice

The RTX 5090 mobile is a terrible product but "just get a pc" isn't good advice either

I'm not too familiar about the specifics of the 50 series gpus but iirc there were... Quirks that make them quite mediocre even compared to 40 series

Foxy would be able to provide more details regarding the specifics

[polar void]

@versed current #build-pics message
that is a 6400mts ddr4 kit?

that exists i mean?

bc thats a normal ddr5 speed not ddr4

the 5700x takes ddr4 only

[versed current]

Yea

[polar void]

no way

[versed current]

Yea I didn’t know either

[polar void]

no

ddr4 does not come in this speed

only ddr5

[versed current]

Did I put ddr4?

[polar void]

yes

which brings up another thing, you say its a 5700x

[versed current]

Oh…

[polar void]

am4 motherboards only support ddr4

[versed current]

No I didn’t?

[versed current]

I don’t know what cpu it was

Yea

It was prolly a 5800x then

It’s fine

My bad

[polar void]

no that still is not aligned with the ram thing

im so confused

[fallen sphinx]

thats still an am4 cpu

ddr4 doesnt go that fast

[versed current]

😭

Lemme find the list

7600x

That’s the cpu

[fickle bolt]

Not yet anyway

[fallen sphinx]

it never will

[fickle bolt]

Bruh

[polar void]

ok yeah then there its correct

why did bro put 5700x

[cyan citrus]

That's precisely one of the things I was wanting to know -- is this going to be a jet engine that drives my family out of the room. I do reviews on games, and having a laptop means I can do it wherever I am, including the living room. Benchmarking is a part of that. Seems like I might keep the benchmarking to when people aren't around, but gaming should be quiet enough to not be obnoxious. Thanks for the links!

[cyan citrus]

I have one. All set with that. This has to be portable and powerful, as you say.

[cyan citrus]

Had a 4080 laptop that just failed for the fifth time in 8 months. So that got sent back to the mfg. What would you say makes it a terrible product? Value proposition, certainly, but that's not the question.

I think that'll be the last Gigabyte laptop I ever buy. Yeesh

[mortal kayak]

The biggest thing you need to understand about RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 laptops is that they are not the chips they claim to be.

RTX 5090 Mobile is a GB203 GPU die with 10496 cores, 24GB VRAM on a 256-bit bus. This makes it basically an RTX 5080 GPU die with an extremely low power limit. Desktop RTX 5080 has 400W of power to play with, while the mobile equivalent is dependent upon the individual device, somewhere in the 95W to 150W range.

RTX 5080 Mobile is also a GB203 but it only has 7680 cores, placing it below a desktop 5070 Ti in core count. In practical application it will perform somewhere between the desktop RTX 5070 and RTX 5060 Ti cards.

As long as you keep your expectations in check for what you're actually getting, you'll be good.
Depending upon your application, if you don't need to run off battery power and simply go back and forth between a few locations with your PC, then you might be much better served with an SFF desktop. Something in a Fractal Ridge, for instance.

[plucky timber]

What is the question?

I don't think we've ever gotten enough context

We can't really give you any in depth answers unless we have more of the specifics

[valid hollow]

I was selected and plan to purchase. What other deals exist that I can bundle with this? Thinking a MOBO?

[snow dragon]

Anything but asrock

[plucky timber]

I'd add anything with a vrm heatsink that's not an asrock

I'd say the worst of those would be I believe 6 phase boards?

Should be enough

Actually I think there are 5 phase ones

Shouldn't be too bad though

[fickle bolt]

Initially read this as assrock

[valid hollow]

These were the other two options but I’m already heavy on ITX boards and didn’t wanna step down MOBO and CL36 ram for a 20-30$ delta

[plucky timber]

Eagle AX is better for $159

Btw you doxxed yourself

So I've deleted that message for your benefit

[valid hollow]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

There we go. But not sure if the eagle AX would still have taken then-20$ combo off?

[plucky timber]

Ah I see

Whatever's cheaper would do then

[crisp sun]

why anything but ASRock?

[snow dragon]

Their boards are still killing chips

Majority still x3d

But there are plenty of dead 9950X as well

[molten pebble]

What's up Saint!

I'm Doug -> the one who writes everything for ArsenalPC on the forum

[rare plover]

is the Lenovo Legion 5-15IRX10 a good gaming laptop

my father is trying to get a pc for me through the university he works at but they said he can only get a laptop so gg

can just weld it to the back of a 27 inch 1440p

[obsidian wigeon]

that's a great laptop

very good

gorgeous screen

good build quality

good keyboard

good cooling

[rare plover]

8gb vram tho

For a 5070

But oled screen and an I9 🤑

Or i7

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd get an amd one

if possible

battery life is much better

[rare plover]

Lemme check

[obsidian wigeon]

AKP10 would be the one you wanna find

zen 5 amd

[rare plover]

M4 mac pro with 20 gpu cores surely

What gpu does it even compare to

[obsidian wigeon]

m4 mac pro?

the 5070 mobile beats that in gaming

consistently

[rare plover]

Ok

[rare plover]

is 8gb of vram a limiting factor here tho

[obsidian wigeon]

yes, it can be

especially for 1600p

you'll have to rely on upscaling

[rare plover]

Its alot of money i can get a 5070 and 7700x/non x desktop for that but i was told the university is paying for it or something

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd probably go for a strix instead, best buy has one for about 1.6k with a 5070ti laptop gpu

it has 12gb vram

ah, severance pay

[rare plover]

I found a rog strix with a 5060 and i9

Cant find a 5070 one

[rare plover]

Would the laptop 5070 be more powerful than a desktop 9060?

Or 5060 ti

[obsidian wigeon]

no

you gotta get full 140w 5070ti to reach that performance

[rare plover]

Er

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

the laptop market at the time isn't all that interesting

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-strix-g16-16-fhd-165hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-hx-16gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-1tb-ssd-eclipse-grey/JJGGLHJLTS @rare plover

as good of a value as you can do rn with gaming laptops

[rare plover]

Cant find this here

[obsidian wigeon]

hmm

sadness

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/severance-mark-s-tom-cruise-run-run-gif-10090530442233425973

[fickle bolt]

Scambot

We know what you did

@polar void hit em with the screenshots

Huh

What do you want to ask...

Speak now or forever hold your peace

[polar void]

you are scammer lol

you’re not in the steam database and are not getting our logins

[fickle bolt]

So does everyone🤦‍♂️

[polar void]

is he banned

[fickle bolt]

Uh

Lemme reload

[fickle bolt]

No

[analog hearth]

Write me a 2-page essay in MLA format regarding how you're a terrible scammer

[honest knot]

BOT ALERT BOT ALERT

[mental hazel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839452469477769236/916800847512473680/HgnGdPSt.gif

[polar void]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-cat-gif-5445144869224759439

[fickle bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-scam-meme-dwightschrute-hoax-fake-gif-21826620

[tame kindle]

HELP, I can't tell if it's in or not, but I can take it off with a little force

[crimson zinc]

Push in until you hear a click.

[tame kindle]

I'm pushing down quite hard, I still don't hear a click

[tame kindle]

Though it feels pretty solid in, like the force I'd need to take it out like the case will lift with it

[tame kindle]

Actually no I can take it out pretty easily with some pull

[crimson zinc]

Take it out. Make sure the pcie slot isn’t broken

[tame kindle]

Pcie slot of gpu or motherboard and what's that

Here, you look

[crimson zinc]

Motherboard

[tame kindle]

Check for me..

I can't tell

[tame kindle]

I don't think so

[polar void]

send a close up of the latch on the end of the slot

[tame kindle]

Q

[tame kindle]

@polar void

[polar void]

looks fine

[tame kindle]

So ?

[polar void]

try putting the gpu back in but this time

press more on the side with the latch

[tame kindle]

Alr one sec

[polar void]

until you hear even the slightest click

if you dont hear it

inspect the latch with the gpu in and see if you can push it upwards to manually make sure its locked into the gpu

[valid hollow]

Make sure you have the rear frame of the GPU properly slotted into the case on the rear side of the MOBO as you put it in. You should not have to press that hard at all.

[polar void]

i know for a fact the gigabyte latches are a lil bit weird

[tame kindle]

I pushed with all my weight still this is the catch

I mean this is as far as it gets

[polar void]

looks fine

[tame kindle]

No click tho

[polar void]

now flip the pc upright if possible

[polar void]

it wont always click with gigabyte latches, theyre built weird

[tame kindle]

Nope I'm pretty sure it won't fall

[polar void]

do it anyway, listen

[tame kindle]

I need to pull almost basically lifting up the entire casing

[tame kindle]

Alr

[polar void]

then while screwing the gpu in

use your other hand and gently apply lift pressure to it

so its as high as itll go

when its tightened

do you have a sag bracket?

[valid hollow]

^

[tame kindle]

Even though I didn't hear any click I should do that?

[tame kindle]

Nope.. I'll get one later a few days

[polar void]

yes

[polar void]

yes do that promptly

[tame kindle]

Alr I'll trust you and let you know how it goes

Before I plug it in, one video confirmation

All good?

It works

Thanks @polar void , I was having a heart attack

[polar void]

yes lol all good

[polar void]

no problem, i know my tech

[tame kindle]

by the way, i use a rx 6700xt with i7 12700k, 650w gold+ coolermaster should be fine right ? i see furmurk and cyberpunk crashing at launch, is this amd issue or my psu ?

all other games like fh5, clair obscur 33, dbz kakarot, ran fine at max settings

[polar void]

might be drivers

Your psu should be fine

[fickle bolt]

Idek nvidia had a dsc

[tame kindle]

like 100% sure ? i've played fh5, horizon forbidden wes, naraka blade point, like all at max settings and it was fine

just furmurk, it runs when its not on screen but when it is it just stops

and cyberpunk crashes at launch

[polar void]

to test it out

search up Heavyload

Download it and run every test at the same time

If it can run it without crashing then it’s not psu

[polar void]

you can’t even talk there

[fickle bolt]

Oh?

[polar void]

just make tech support posts lol

[fickle bolt]

💀

[tame kindle]

i ticked all of them but some of them automatically got unticked after a bit, so it didnt crash but it hit 100% usage them dipped to like t10% like not a stutter more like a slow lowering

i clicked this one it ran all tests with max settings, and it ran just fine for 40 seconds then i closed it

so do i take that as my psu is enough and fine just the drivers?