building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

(I have a 3070)

[honest bronze]

we are talking heavy based games such as rdr2, starfield, kc22 etc

[plucky timber]

Starfield 💀

[honest bronze]

like 1440p High or Medium? 😦

[covert vapor]

Have 3070 but use igpu? 🤨

[fallen sphinx]

no gpu can really run starfield well

[honest bronze]

only game i could think of mane

[fallen sphinx]

rdr2 aint that hard to run

[honest bronze]

damn lol

[plucky timber]

The only game I use the dgpu on is Minecraft

The other games

Well

War thunder runs on the igpu

[honest bronze]

1440p Max settings cant it get like 60-70fps on the 7090

9070*

[fallen sphinx]

7090

[plucky timber]

Victoria II hammers the hell out of my cpu but doesn't touch the gpu

[honest bronze]

hmmm

[plucky timber]

I use my dgpu in ONE game

[honest bronze]

whats cache in ssd's?

[plucky timber]

It's amazing how none of my games use my dgpu

[plucky timber]

no dram cache, HMB

If you're just gaming it doesn't really matter nowadays

[honest bronze]

bet

[plucky timber]

HMB is generally good enough

DRAM cache is more useful if you're hammering the ssd constantly

such as using it as a premiere pro scratch disk

[honest bronze]

is Crucial a good SSD for the value

[plucky timber]

crucial makes a lot of ssds

[honest bronze]

P3 plus to be exact

[plucky timber]

I mean

is it a bad value ssd?

no

there are just better priced ssds

the c910 is $89.99

nothing can beat that

[honest bronze]

Kingston I believe is better priced? righ

[plucky timber]

eh

don't get kekston

they're generally very mediocre

I'd take the UD90 over that

[honest bronze]

hmmm

[plucky timber]

oh the C910 is the second cheapest ssd

💀

wtf

yeah I'd just go for the c910

there really isn't anything better priced

[honest bronze]

makes sense

[plucky timber]

I wouldn't buy anything based on brand alone

just some general advice

I've seen brands make a good product

and then succeed it with absolute trash

such as the samsung 980

[honest bronze]

yea thats what i was skeptical about lol.

[plucky timber]

980 Pro is solid

but the 980 is absolute trash

[honest bronze]

when the 970 dropped it was amazing apparently which i guess is what gave them that repuation

[plucky timber]

the 970 is amazing

I have a 970 evo plus

Samsung were known for their reliability back then

nowadays I'd argue the Pro ssds are still pretty good in that regard

for their consumer ssds

well there's the MP44

[honest bronze]

yea ive seen reviews and it seems like they always reflect on the old reliability of them

[plucky timber]

Samsung is a mixed bag these days

they have some good products

but they also have some really mediocre ones too

[honest bronze]

Its depending on that $$$ to reliability for them it feels like now

[plucky timber]

They still have their niche

for prosumer uses the pro ssds are pretty good

but for most people

"good enough" is usually good enough

hence the cheaper ssds are generally more popular among general consumers nowadays

[honest bronze]

half the time people get overkill items for mediocre things just because of the brand

[plucky timber]

indeed

half the time it's not even overkill

[honest bronze]

like when i first started researching i wanted to get a 9060 XT 16GB only for 1080p Medium and someone told me that it would be overkill

[plucky timber]

it's actually worse

I've seen people overspend the hell out of their pcs

only to perform worse than a cheaper rig

One more thing

with the current parts list

[honest bronze]

the reason why i aint go that prebuilt route was due to me realising i can save 500-600$

[plucky timber]

you should be fine to go up to a 9800X3D several years down the line

the motherboard vrms and cpu cooler should be able to handle a X3D

[honest bronze]

hmm bet

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYwR9C

this one correct?

[plucky timber]

yeah

You can change the case around if you want to spend a bit more

for a better looking case

or an AIO

[honest bronze]

whats an AIO?

[plucky timber]

But those are more aesthetics changes rather than performance changes

[plucky timber]

all-in-one liquid cooler

[honest bronze]

ahh

[honest bronze]

ay tho thanks for ur help mane

[plucky timber]

wait hold up

really?

[lyric thistle]

rommy sold me 970 evo plus :3

[honest bronze]

wsp

[covert vapor]

The P41 is 119 on wegg

[plucky timber]

hm

c910 is $90 innit?

[covert vapor]

I was comparing to the SN580

[plucky timber]

more of a $30 diff

oh

[plucky timber]

honestly WD is pretty mediocre these days

not really competitively priced

[covert vapor]

The Spatium M461 is 99.99

[plucky timber]

dram?

[covert vapor]

No, but it is one of the faster dramless ones

[plucky timber]

I suppose but does it really matter

with ssds these days

[covert vapor]

Not really, but options I guess

[plucky timber]

true

the M461 is a pretty solid ssd

just costs $10 more than the C910 is the unfortunate part

it's good value

honestly it's up to him tbh

it's not a massive price jump

$10 for a faster ssd seems reasonable

[plucky timber]

based

what capacity is it

[lyric thistle]

1

2 would've been awesome but 1 is decent

I still need to clone it to my new 2tb drive

and use it as a second drive later :3

[plucky timber]

I kinda wanna get a cheapo ssd

as a storage drive

Might just go used tbh

[covert vapor]

Never enough storage

Data hoarding good

Spend half of your budget when building PC on storage, no regrets ever frfr

[plucky timber]

I should really fix my nas situation

[covert vapor]

I'm joking but I've spent way too much on storage

[plucky timber]

I've been trying to upgrade my nas

but bios shenanigans

[lyric thistle]

nas situation

[plucky timber]

Should've gotten a 6700T instead of a xeon

pain in the ass

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-room-empty-alone-will-s-mith-gif-11321840

[plucky timber]

proprietary bios sucks so much

💀

[lyric thistle]

my nas situaton

[plucky timber]

my current nas runs on a 32 bit cpu

so every time there's I/O operations

the cpu bottlenecks the hell out of the transfer speeds

THE CPU

BOTTLENECKS I/O

I'm upgrading to Skylake ao

Massive jump

[gentle pollen]

Thoughts? $1535 for a 7800x3D + 7900XT Storm Trooper build with a board and PSU that leaves room for upgrading to a 9950x3D + 5090 combo.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ApexGenesis/saved/#view=GZN8jX

[plucky timber]

SSD kinda overpriced

[gentle pollen]

Wanted to give the system a quality drive. Can always add more later.

[plucky timber]

Eh

Quality in what exactly

If it's a gaming only build I'd just get a 2TB for the same price

Samsung's consumer drives are pretty mediocre

For how much they cost

[gentle pollen]

Gaming and light rendering type tasks.

[plucky timber]

Does that board support pcie 5.0

Because that's 5.0 X2

[gentle pollen]

But I get what you mean. I just personally don't shop for slow drives having constantly regretted buying the slower ones just to save a buck or two.

[gentle pollen]

Yep

[plucky timber]

Well here's the thing

That samsung's not even that good

[lyric thistle]

is samsug therefore must be good

[plucky timber]

The P41 is faster

By a lot actually

[gentle pollen]

My personal preference is SN850X but that's $90

[plucky timber]

SN850x is actually a lot faster

the samsung is pretty much on par with a c910

[gentle pollen]

990 Evo Plus

[plucky timber]

which...

is not $70

[gentle pollen]

Not the 990 Evo

[plucky timber]

oh ok

faster and cheaper

QLC tho

I'm going to find a TLC one

MP44 is $69

and

if you actually want to pay a bit more

The Crucial T500 is $75.19 and has dram

vs the $74.98 of the samsung

If you want a better overall ssd rather than saving money

I'd go for the T500

[gentle pollen]

Hmm alright.

[plucky timber]

I say that but it's a $1 price difference

so

it's just better really

$1 for dram

not even actually

21 cents

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha

I will keep that in mind and change the listed ssd

Other than the SSD, thoughts?

[plucky timber]

Parts are pretty optimized

considering white aesthetic

Personally don't trust the NZXT case

but it's one of their better airflow ones

so I'd say everything else is fine

It's really just the SSD

the X670 is cheaper than the B650 I usually put in lists so

Pretty well priced list

[gentle pollen]

Excellent.

[fallen sphinx]

im starting to think against water cooling

this got expensive way too fast 😦

[plucky timber]

custom loops would be decent

if they didn't cost a premium

[snow dragon]

Not a premium, the price is ridiculous

[honest bronze]

Yo chat

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fb4rsp I think this building is perfect for what I want, I Js need a CPU cooler recommendation and how does an AIO work??

[plucky timber]

er

Didn't we give you a better list

[honest bronze]

My friend my bad

[plucky timber]

?

[honest bronze]

This is my friends build lmao

[plucky timber]

yeah but

look at the two lists

they're around the same price

and the other one is clearly better

They're both similar budget lists so I'd just go with that list for this scenario as well

This list pretty much has the same issues as your first list

just slightly cheaper cpu and cooler

Fixes are generally around the same

[honest bronze]

Hmm alr bet

[plucky timber]

unless you have a lower budget

for this list

I could try to reduce the prices for a weaker gpu

if the budget is significantly lower

[honest bronze]

Send me that build

[plucky timber]

What is the budget?

[plucky timber]

the build with a weaker gpu?

[honest bronze]

The 1500$ one u showed me

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYwR9C

It's pretty much $10 more

for a much faster gpu

[gentle pollen]

Wouldn't the list I made be faster?

[plucky timber]

?

what list

[gentle pollen]

I am confused. This list performs worse in every department compared to the one I sent you.

Regarding AIOs, you mount the radiator which has the fans on, mount the cooler to the CPU like you would with a Air Cooler then just plug the fan cables in.

[gentle pollen]

The storm trooper list.

[honest bronze]

Its js a friend sending me stuff and telling me to ask random discords. I dont mean to be rude

[gentle pollen]

Oh okay.

[plucky timber]

Could you please provide a link?

That could be a decent alternative

[gentle pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ApexGenesis/saved/#view=GZN8jX

$1537 for a 7800x3D+7900XT with plenty of room to upgrade down the line by sporting a quality board and PSU.

[plucky timber]

We put a 9070XT in there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYwR9C

for most gaming loads this would be faster

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha. It's okay overall. Nothing really stands out except for the overpriced RAM and PSU.

[plucky timber]

in the other list?

[gentle pollen]

The one their friend sent.

I don't know why the reply function is not working.

[plucky timber]

I wouldn't be so generous

the price/perf is pretty uh

💀

lots of money going into nothing

[gentle pollen]

Lmao I don't see any deal in that list of that's the question.

[plucky timber]

considering that both our lists are around the same price with significant improvements either in the cpu or gpu department

[plucky timber]

compared to the original list

I did keep the 7800X3D in there originally

but someone pointed out that the 9070XT wasn't that expensive

when combined with a 9600X

actually I think I was working off your list actually

[gentle pollen]

Fair. In my case the 7800x3D was top priority first for the high 1% lows and reduced stuttering. Then I searched the web for like an hour straight finding the best GPU I could within $650.

[plucky timber]

I usually go for the gpu

The price difference between the 9600X and the X3D is pretty high so

Then again I also assume that games don't run like total dogcrap like they do in 2025

[gentle pollen]

If only Devs still truly optimized games like they used to.

[plucky timber]

We would be able to get away with cheaper cpus AND gpus

[gentle pollen]

Nowadays because of high end hardware they opt for speed vs quality.

And well we've been seeing the results.

[plucky timber]

My games run on my igpu

The reason is that the games that do need my dgpu are trash

[gentle pollen]

I play mostly Marvel Rivals and Minecraft.

[plucky timber]

I do use my dgpu for minecraft

that's the only game

I'm not really drawn to the AAA slop that studios like to put out nowadays

I find that indie games are better in the quality department these days

[gentle pollen]

Minecraft interestingly, if Vanilla prefers high frequency but if heavily modded much prefers the extra V-Cache.

[plucky timber]

which does lead to me not leading any sort of upgrade except maybe ram and storage but for non gaming use cases

[plucky timber]

single threaded game

minecraft benefits a lot from cpu advantages

[gentle pollen]

I have been using mods to render chunks with extra threads but yeah all the entities are still being handled on one.

[plucky timber]

that's why I usually prioritise single core perf in most of my parts list

[gentle pollen]

Iirc Minecraft 1.18 and newer separates sounds onto a separate thread.

[plucky timber]

Most games still can't really take advantage of raw core counts

I wish Ryzen 5 X3D is cheaper

Imagine a $200 X3D

or even $230

[gentle pollen]

I am hesitant to recommend parts that are no longer receiving an upgrade path unless someone is on a really tight budget.

[plucky timber]

5700X3D?

yeah that cpu is pretty...

[gentle pollen]

I found a 7800x3D for $280 the other day. Sold out within an hour.

[plucky timber]

damn

5700X3D is only good on existing systems imo

like X3D is nice

but compared to going DDR5 on a 7600

meh

[gentle pollen]

Correcto.

[plucky timber]

It's good for exactly one scenario

[gentle pollen]

Btw is a 7600x for $137 good?

[plucky timber]

wtf

where do you find these deals

that's a hell yeah from me

[gentle pollen]

I am the master of finding deals.

I am Chinese and Jewish it's in my blood lmao.

[plucky timber]

9600x is $174.99 rn so

[plucky timber]

wait what

how does that happen

I've seen European and Jewish

but Chinese and Jewish I've never seen

What part of China may I ask as well?

[gentle pollen]

Jewish father meets a Chinese girl. Granted I am a convert because to be born a Jew, the mother needs to be Jewish.

[plucky timber]

ah I see

[gentle pollen]

American born abroad in ShangHai China, spent most of my time down in Hainan, China and spent a couple years in other provinces then moved to the US during COVID due to Visa expiring, and for the last 4 years I have been wandering from Mexico, California, and Alaska. Recently settled long term into Alaska for the next year.

[plucky timber]

Hm

How many languages can you speak

Those are two quite distinct regions of China

[gentle pollen]

Mandarin and English. I can get by in Mexico with my Spanish but it's not conversational level neither is my Hebrew.

[plucky timber]

Ah

I see

English, Cantonese and Mandarin here

[gentle pollen]

Oh cool.

[plucky timber]

You can probably guess where I'm from by the languages

[gentle pollen]

Where are you from if you don't mind me asking.

[plucky timber]

Hong Kong

living in Australia

[gentle pollen]

I was going to guess San Francisco

[plucky timber]

haha yeah

Lots of Cantonese speaking migrants around that area

Cantonese is kinda the default stereotypical asian accent

Which is funny because it sounds a lot different from current official language of China

[gentle pollen]

I find Cantonese interesting in that I can usually hold a conversation with someone while I am speaking Mandarin but some words do take a few tries to convey.

[plucky timber]

It's got similar tones to SEA languages

[gentle pollen]

Cantonese is much more Songy in my opinion compared to Mandarin which is extremely monotone.

[plucky timber]

A Vietnamese speaker would be confused if they're listening in from a distance

Cantonese is probably closer in tonation to older Chinese compared to Mandarin iirc

[gentle pollen]

Off topic but I noticed you play Minecraft. Do you play Java edition?

[plucky timber]

yes

[gentle pollen]

Neat. Want to hang out sometime?

[plucky timber]

maybe

timezones would be quite annoying tho

[gentle pollen]

I am usually on in my evening hours.

[plucky timber]

hm

we'll see

You play hypixel?

[gentle pollen]

I am typically available between 8PM-2AM my time.

[gentle pollen]

Been a minute but yeah. I used to play Bedwars and Skywars very competitively.

[plucky timber]

It's been pff

half a decade

since I've seriously played

whole different era of minecraft back then

before Dream

Is it just me or is the multiplayer minecraft minigame scene less active than it used to be

I remember minigames being the focus of multiplayer mc back in the era I was most active in

[gentle pollen]

Yeah it's dropped off a lot since the Combat update.

And then further reduced when Minecraft shifted its focus to adding more flora and fauna to the game.

[plucky timber]

It's also a cultural shift

I don't really see many big youtubers making hypixel videos

compared to SMPs

[gentle pollen]

True, most people grow up playing Fortnite and stuff now vs creative games like Minecraft or Survival Simulators.

[plucky timber]

at least the ones that are relevant in 2025

[plucky timber]

It's interesting how that entire competitive scene of minecraft is kinda less relevant

[gentle pollen]

It used to be when I was growing up that every kid and their cousins played Minecraft. Now it's Fortnite or CoD.

[plucky timber]

and minecraft content is more focused on the core gameplay

rather than the minigame servers

[gentle pollen]

I miss watching videos from CarFlo, TheWaffleGalaxy, and Xylophony.

Some of the best Minecraft RP, Let's Play, and Adventure YouTubers.

[plucky timber]

oh my god

adventure maps

I bet half of the minecraft audience won't know what an adventure map is

[gentle pollen]

Or DanTDM's Modplay Series.

[plucky timber]

at least in today's age

[gentle pollen]

Lmao I know right.

[plucky timber]

I used to be obsessed with herobrine sighting debunking videos

they're kinda like a parody of bigfoot debunking

it's a niche genre

[gentle pollen]

Fair.

[plucky timber]

Minecraft used to be so different

[gentle pollen]

For me my favorites were CarFlo's Minecraft Highschool series, Xtlophony's Adventure series, TheWaffleGalaxy's Let's Play Series, and TheAtlanticCraft's Challenge videos.

[plucky timber]

ah the RP youtubers

I think I might remember some of those names

been a while

[gentle pollen]

You remember My Girlfriend Is A Creeper?

[plucky timber]

uh no

[gentle pollen]

Cupa the Creeper?

[plucky timber]

I remember minecraft fnaf

... for some reason

[gentle pollen]

Jog your memory?

[plucky timber]

nope

[gentle pollen]

Damn.

[plucky timber]

guess I wasn't around that part of the mc scene

fun fact I actually learnt to speak English from minecraft

[gentle pollen]

CarFlo used to make a lot of Romance Roleplay series.

Xylophony was known for his Action roleplay series

[plucky timber]

I used to watch a lot of those but for some reason all of the just escaped my head

maybe not those specific people

[gentle pollen]

And TheWaffleGalaxy and AtlanticCraft for the Let's Plays.

[plucky timber]

tbh most of the stuff's escaped my brain except for stampy's let's play series

[gentle pollen]

Damn

I forgot that name

[plucky timber]

I remember I watched a lot of DanTDM

[gentle pollen]

With the cat looking skin right?

[plucky timber]

but I forgot the entire plot

[gentle pollen]

Stampy

[plucky timber]

yeah

[gentle pollen]

I recall she used to do videos with her boyfriend a lot and their CrazyCraft series did well.

[plucky timber]

Stampy is the guy

[gentle pollen]

Oh my memory is off then.

I thought Stampy was the girl.

[plucky timber]

nah

[gentle pollen]

Was it Stampy & Jessica?

[plucky timber]

I think Stampy did play with his gf

well

then gf

they're married now

rare happy ending in the minecraft scene

[gentle pollen]

Dang

Indeed.

[amber stone]

is this the area were i can ask for advice on a build im planning this week?

[gentle pollen]

Yep.

Please specify the following to make it easy to help find the parts (which I can help with in about an hour):

• Budget min-max
• Use case: just gaming or gaming + production apps in which case specify which ones
• Aesthetic preference if any
• Location: US, CA, CN, MX, EU, etc
• Do you need a monitor or peripherals as well?

[amber stone]

awesome! so i have this bundle that i bought last year in december & has 32gb ram its a
ryzen 5 7600x ASUS B650M-A Prime AX II AMD AM5 microATX
G.Skill Flare X5 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR5-6000

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO

Montech AIR 903 MAX Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower
PowerSpec 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Semi-Modular

sk hynix 1tb ssd
basically my choice is sell this for 800$ to try getting this other bundle from micro center & the other stuff

Gamdias GC1 Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer ...
SKU: 719211
1 $49.99
SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB 176L 3D TLC NAND Flash P...
SKU: 618058
1 $139.99
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X, MSI X670E MAG Tomahawk WiFi
Contains:
G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB 2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 P...
SKU: 440792
MSI X670E MAG Tomahawk WiFi AMD AM5 ATX Motherboar...
SKU: 574863
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X Granite Ridge AM5 4.40GHz 12-Cor...

thats the new build maybe im planning

this was gonna go for 815$

just unsure if i should actually do this new build

with that bundle

[gentle pollen]

If you can sell your current rig for $800 to cover the cost then by all means go for it.

Otherwise, my recommendation is sell the CPU and maybe the RAM, get a new kit of ram and wait for the next time I post the 7800x3D at $300 or something better.

What GPU do you currently have?

[amber stone]

i have rx 6650xt this was given to me by a friend that builds pc so my plan is use it

i forgot to add the psu... in there lol

for that new bundle build

but its now 959$

this is maybe the psu ill add with the pc ASUS ROG Strix Gold Aura Edition 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply

[gentle pollen]

Do you know how to use pcpartpicker?

[amber stone]

kinda

[gentle pollen]

It'd be a lot easier to visualize if you make two separate lists. 1 list showing what you currently got and another list with what you would have if you got the bundle then in text write how much you the bundle costs

[amber stone]

actually your right cause ngl writting it all takes longer lol....

my other choice just get a ryzen 7 7700x build or do the ryzen 7 7800x3d bundles

[amber stone]

actually i maybe be able to do that build tbh cause i also was gonna sell my dslr camera since its old anyways

but also thinking if i should first check out fb marketplace

[gentle pollen]

Check your locally market and before purchasing check here as we usually post good deals in #tech-deals, usually with a little bit of work and using refurbish parts you can get better specs while coming out spending less compared to the bundles.

[amber stone]

true your right also i think if i sell my case,ram,cpu,mobo & my camera i can maybe buy the stuff cheaper since more discounts than the bundles

cause rn i seen my receipt & well i paid 626$

for everything of pc parts bundle

[gentle pollen]

for example I did this combo as a counter to a bundle someone found the other day.
#tech-deals message

[amber stone]

how long does delivery usually take?

[gentle pollen]

Depends on your location.

[amber stone]

im in chicago so?

[gentle pollen]

Hmm maybe a week or less?

Most tech parts through Amazon and Newegg come out of either California or Ohio.

[amber stone]

ohh okay

also so would you say i should sell the pc parts i have rn for at least 500$?

since in subtotal came up to 570$

for my parts

or at least 475?

[gentle pollen]

$475 is more realistic, could probably sell it for $500 if you pitch the sale well enough.

[amber stone]

true cause honestly the case costed me 74$ & the psu & cpu cooler was both 60$ & two ddr5 rams of the same speed were 50$

the mobo was 119$ & the cpu was 129$

also should i avoid lowball offers?

[gentle pollen]

Depends. Personally since the setup is used I wouldn't pay more than $350 for the whole thing.

High price = 450+
Fair Price = 400
Good Price = 350-375

From a buyer's stand point.

[amber stone]

honestly might just sell as entire pc

with gpu & both ssds

cause if i sell my camera & this 60inch tv that i dont even use lol

i would have 1490$

[gentle pollen]

If you come back here with that budget we can get you a pretty good build.

I made a 7800x3D+7900XT Storm Trooper theme build for a fellah earlier at $1537

[amber stone]

true lol cause honestly my listing for entire pc was gonna be a 850$

but unsure cause i wanted to originally do 1k for this pc

that i have rn

[gentle pollen]

Hmmm 1k probably wouldn't happen at least not quickly.

[amber stone]

would 950? be kinda faster to get or stick with 850$

[gentle pollen]

850 is the fair price I'd say.

[amber stone]

i was thinking doing this mobo ASUS B650-A ROG Strix Gaming WiFi

[gentle pollen]

Anything higher would be in favor of you vs the buyer making anyone who knows what they are looking at probably avoid it or lowball you down to 650.

[amber stone]

i had people lowball me to 500$ lol

[gentle pollen]

As mentioned, not including your gpu the whole system is worth about $350-400.

so that's not far off from the actual value.

[amber stone]

yeah just gonna do the whole pc instead

because i wanna build a high end pc tbh

[gentle pollen]

Used parts, always slash the value in half and for each generation old it is usually count on further reducing the value.

[amber stone]

if i tell micro center employee the prices would they be forced to pricematch stuff?

[gentle pollen]

No clue.

If they do Price Matching, make sure to bring receipts if your idea is to trade the parts in.

[amber stone]

ohh ikd if i can do trades with them since my parts dont have warranty at all

[gentle pollen]

Oh I forgot.

[amber stone]

only one thing has it

which is my mobo

[gentle pollen]

@amber stone, check Newegg they have a trade in program. that's a easy way to get a an idea of what the fair value of each individual part is.

[amber stone]

alright ill try rn

[gentle pollen]

@amber stone https://www.newegg.com/promotions/nepro/23-1322/index.html?

with it what you can do is see if you can sell the whole pc locally at a higher price and if not, send the parts in for Trade In and Newegg will give you a Credit balance to buy whatever with.

Note, depending on the condition of the part the credit balance granted for each part can be lower or higher.

[amber stone]

question do you think i need 60$ cpu cooler? if i do sell my pc & etc

[gentle pollen]

for what cpu?

[amber stone]

ryzen 7 7800x3d

[gentle pollen]

Not needed, but recommended.

[amber stone]

gonna make a list of the parts i am doing rn

[gentle pollen]

You can grab a Thermalright 360mm Frozen Edge AIO for $55.

[amber stone]

thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mGBwJn

plus for that ssd its 119$ on newegg it says

[gentle pollen]

It's okay. If you can wait, I can whip up a much better list when I am awake later.

In the meantime, within your budget area is a highly optimized build I made earlier.

[amber stone]

sure dw honestly i have none else to do tbh rn just watching yt

[gentle pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ApexGenesis/saved/#view=GZN8jX

[amber stone]

issue with that i dont think i can get the other 100+ for this build...

[frigid carbon]

Hi im heading off to school in the fall and im trying to get a laptop and bring a small pc instead of my current full atx

Any suggestions for a laptop for a cs major who wants to game? I was looking at the zephyrus due to the nice oled screen but im worried about the 16gb of ram

[fallen sphinx]

ngl, a macbook

[frigid carbon]

thats what i was looking into but my only worries are game and application compatibility

maybe i can use parallels but i heard its not smooth enough for fps gaming yet

[tropic barn]

I’ve been looking at b850 mobos for my new build, im going to put a 9800x3d+9070 xt into it, I was planning in using the asus tuf b850 but i just watched a review that said the msi mag tomahawk b850 is a better choice, should I get the tomahawk instead?

(ASUS TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI AMD AM5 B850 ATX motherboard, 14+2+1 80A stages, AI Ready, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 , 3x M.2, Wi-Fi 7, 2.5Gb LAN, DisplayPort, HDMI, USB 10Gbps & 20Gbps Type-C, BIOS FlashBack)
https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b850-plus-wifi-atx-motherboard-amd-b850-am5/p/N82E16813119705?tpk=1&item=N82E16813119705

(MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI AM5 AMD B850 SATA 6Gb/s 5G Network Wi-Fi7 DDR5 Motherboard)
https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi-atx-motherboard-amd-b850-am5/p/N82E16813144697
Review was from this guy https://youtu.be/jiqbjGAmN08?si=woKbDDrrLVa2iX8Z

This is my part list as of now: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tsZk3w

would love to hear from anyone, this is going to be my 1st build so I wanna see if I can make it better and keep it within budget

[frigid jackal]

Has anyone encountered the BSOD loop because of Riot Games's Vanguard?
I was just wondering if there were any fixes. I'm already asking support but if there isn't I'm also fine with just not playing it lol

[gentle pollen]

You can reuse your SSD and Cooler.

[gentle pollen]

I haven't been in the laptop scene for a while but my recommendation would be get a Laptop with the specs you need for travel and setup a M-ATX system for gaming.

That or look into a laptop with good specs and you can upgrade the RAM capacity yourself later on.

[plucky timber]

We should put in the channel description that people should use pcpartpicker lists

[gentle pollen]

Hello User,

Welcome to Newegg's #building-and-recc-chat. If you are looking for help regarding a new build feel free to ask here and please use the format stated below to receive help faster and get recommended the right parts for you. If your looking for help regarding the value of your parts, we suggest checking Newegg's Trade In program to get estimates.

Format (Example Listed below Format)
Country:
Budget:
Use:
Resolution:
Aesthetic:
Condition:

Example
Country: United States.
Budget: $1400-1500.
Use: I want to use it to play games like Marvel Rivals, do Video Editing in Adobe Premiere, and 3D Modelling in Blender.
Resolution: QHD.
Aesthetic: All White or Storm Trooper Theme.
Condition: I am willing to purchase Refurbished or Used parts.

[gentle pollen]

@crimson zinc I recommend pinning this to make it easier for new people to express what they want and to make it a lot easier for us system builders to recommend the appropriate parts.

[crimson zinc]

Good idea.

[hexed salmon]

hey, i have a 3060 b650-e wifi 7800x3d nzxt h6 case and kraken plus 360 liquid cooler, a 750 watt power supply and also 32gigs of ddr5 im wondering how to assemble all of this

[plucky timber]

There are plenty of youtube videos that go in depth on the building process

[hexed salmon]

any reccomendations?

[plucky timber]

any of them

top result

[hexed salmon]

can you send a link

[snow dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC-Xn2C_L1U

[hexed salmon]

how would i know how to do this if i dont have the exact parts?

[plucky timber]

The mounting positions should be fairly standard

[hexed salmon]

would i be better off just going to micro center and paying the 350

so expensive tho

[plucky timber]

Go through the video

the process is generally the same for all pcs

[snow dragon]

There will be some variance but its all the same thing, just slightly different

[plucky timber]

Apply critical thinking for slight variations

that's all you need

[snow dragon]

For example you have to get the amd mounting for your aio just like the air cooler

Just what is on top of the cpu is different but the mounting is the same

[plucky timber]

there are also many videos that tell you how to mount an AIO

[snow dragon]

To make it easier to align, I like to angle the bottom of the cooler so one screw hole is already touching, and its almost already aligned

This is easy to do with an aio because it is small and easy to align

Graphics card installation is universal

[plucky timber]

Universal*

[snow dragon]

You just plug it in the top slot and plug in the psu cable that is labeled gpu or vga

[plucky timber]

Caution is needed for 12vhpwr

and a gpu support bracket is heavily recommended for a heavy gpu (6900XT, 4090)

[snow dragon]

Cpu cable can be labelled cpu or eps and the connector for that is in the top left of the board

This goes for basically any board you buy

[tropic barn]

Is it worth it getting a brand new case? I have one but its from a prebuilt from like 2018, I’d like to save the $100 or so.

https://www.newegg.com/cyberpowerpc-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-satin-black-p400/p/N82E16811583018

Thats what it looks like

Thing is idk if airflow would be an issue for the case since theres no open space for the air to come through besides a gap in the top and bottom of the front panel

[plucky timber]

airflow is atrocious

depends on the specs of the pc

[crimson zinc]

Yeah, that case is baaaad.

[plucky timber]

if there's like

an i3 in there

it's not worth the bother

[crimson zinc]

Go for a refurbished case if you’re trying to save some money.

[plucky timber]

ehhhh

depends on what he has in there

airflow is atrocious but if all he's running is an i3 and say a gtx 1050

it won't matter

[tropic barn]

Right now theres an fx 6300 in it

But i wanna put a 9070 xt/ 9800x3d in it

[plucky timber]

that's a "quad" core innit?

[tropic barn]

i dont even know tbh

[plucky timber]

if you're building a brand new pc

I'd just get a new case

[tropic barn]

alr

appreciate the advice

[plucky timber]

Although

if you want to reuse the case

stick to lower power components

[tropic barn]

I could also just take the front panel off

[plucky timber]

igpu system would be ideal

[tropic barn]

ive already got the 9070 xt with me

so might as well find a budget case that can fit the 9070 and the cpu cooler

[plucky timber]

there are plenty of cases that have decent airflow

what is your budget?

[tropic barn]

hard limit $120 but id like to keep it under $100 for a case

[plucky timber]

oh

[tropic barn]

This is the build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/74xyrM

[plucky timber]

that's a massive budget

[tropic barn]

really?

[plucky timber]

hmm

have you bought all the parts

[tropic barn]

Just the gpu as of now

[plucky timber]

right

I could help shave money off

quite a lot of money actually

[tropic barn]

i would like to shave some money off

[snow dragon]

[plucky timber]

I'd recommend going for a 7800X3D instead

better performance/$ overall

9800X3D is pretty overpriced at the moment

any preferences to case styles?

fish tank?

[tropic barn]

nah its gonna be on the left side anyways

dont have the space on the right unfortunately

[plucky timber]

the fish tank is cheaper surprisingly enough

[tropic barn]

if its cheaper i dont mind

as long as its black thats fine

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZwMQd

$1662.43

massive cost reduction

You do lose a bit of performance from the cpu

but for saving $100

[tropic barn]

appreciate it

[plucky timber]

You can still go for the 9800X3D if you do want to spend that extra $100

It should still be a net saving

but I'd recommend the 7800X3D

the total $200 saved should be a nice future cpu upgrade

[tropic barn]

yeah ive honestly noticed every $20 counts towards budget its crazy how expesive builds can get if you just go "oh its only an extra $20 or so"

[plucky timber]

The 9800X3D is nice but at the same time

[tropic barn]

hurts the wallet 😭

[plucky timber]

You don't gain much performance for spending the extra $100 so

the 7800X3D is definitely the better buy here

[tropic barn]

alright I appreciate it thanks for the help

[plucky timber]

np

[gentle pollen]

@plain cobalt nice build. We both have the LT720 AIO.

[plain cobalt]

I use temp limit profile at 85c with 30c-ish ambient

[gentle pollen]

Not bad, I will run R23 in a bit. my ambient is around 14-16c.

Also running a 9950x3D at 1.205v SOC and around -20 CO on CCD0 with +200 override.

LT720 for me is setup in push/pull and using PTM7950 for the cpu

[gentle pollen]

k I am gonna run R23

@plain cobalt @bitter mason my current R23 score.

[mystic needle]

Lord I’m boutta buss

It looks sick

Anyone know a good 240mm aio for this case?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/668759/inland-x1-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-black

[stoic island]

something simple like
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7Q1VX4L

[mystic needle]

Heck yeah thank you :)

[snow dragon]

Micro center case micro center case

This is crazy

[iron berry]

Need advice on a solidworks laptop for a college student, not sure if anyone could help?

[stoic island]

What's your budget and what are you looking to do with it?

[iron berry]

they are a college student going for engineering, all i know is they need it to run solidworks

which basically leaves me not knowing what to offer because all the stuff that comes up is like mobile workstation laptops

i was told no budget but also dont want to spend alot which is my annoyance

[stoic island]

From what I can tell, solidworks likes a lot of ram, and having a workstation Quadro/RTX Pro card matters for performance

[gentle pollen]

Beat to ask them what their max budget is then and we can work off of that

The maximum they are willing to spend.

[stoic island]

Prices all look pretty wack, this is refurb and not great but the only thing that looks somewhat reasonably priced lol
https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-15-6-full-hd-non-touch-screen-nvidia-quadro-rtx-4000-32gb-memory-256-gb-nvme-ssd-black/p/1TS-000E-1CXR1

[plain cobalt]

Beware. Case has low ceiling so you might have problem on ram clearance with a top mount aio.
You should mount your aio on front with this case

[mystic needle]

Thanks for the pointer I’ll keep that in mind 🙏

[honest bronze]

Best Prebuilt and Laptop both for a total of 1500$?

[subtle halo]

We have same coller ❤️

[languid nimbus]

coller

[snow dragon]

fr

[weary galleon]

You can get by with pretty modest specs in my experience. My 3060ti and 16gb ram has been more than enough so far in 3 years of my engineering degree

Could probably go down to a 10 series card and still be alright

[runic spruce]

this is an insane anti sag support

[snow dragon]

[lyric thistle]

I used a lego rod + hole studs to hold up the ssd in my broken ass all in one pc

didn't want it wobbling so I gave it something for stability

[runic spruce]

In my pc I’m using a pencil sharpener shavings case to hold up my gpu cables

[cloud prairie]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9jqkKq
Please rate this build. No GPU build and deepcool pl750d 750w power supply

[plucky timber]

obscenely overpriced

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N6m83w

here's a less overpriced build

[cloud prairie]

Montech is not available here

[plucky timber]

Where is "here"

[cloud prairie]

India

[plucky timber]

Pcpartpicker isn't really a good tool

for India

case doesn't really matter just swap it out

with anything that has airflow

[gentle pollen]

@plucky timber thoughts on the HAVN 420 PC case standard gpu configuration?

[plucky timber]

pics?

[gentle pollen]

I am thinking of upgrading to that case with plans to eventually do a custom loop. Positive Pressure layout with AIO on the side.

I will find a pic 1 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts5Fhrxaobo

Also a great video

https://havn.global/products/hs-420?srsltid=AfmBOoq9r3rQaIPLGmwPKTml2BOSJOaioMyFmCBRNG1zWBSFRDM7TZJV&variant=42699622908041

[plucky timber]

Looks like any fish tank tbh

[snow dragon]

Thats a big fella

[gentle pollen]

The video is what sold me, the attention to detail is pretty incredible.

[plucky timber]

Decent amount of 3.5" bays

which is nice

[gentle pollen]

I will be ripping those out for a side mounted Radiator/AIO.

[plucky timber]

I don't really have much thoughts on it

[gentle pollen]

top/bottom/rear intakes with a side AIO till I do custom loop.

[plucky timber]

I usually go for drive bays rather than aesthetics

[gentle pollen]

Ahh I am a Performance 1st then Aesthetics all the way.

[plucky timber]

Functionality over aesthetics

The build quality looks good tho

[snow dragon]

Damn bruh newegg got me, thinking i was gonna get $30 off but it is a gift card they send you after you buy the product

[gentle pollen]

Steve Jobs mentality, I want it to perform the best and I want it to look like an art piece.

[plucky timber]

not a cheap looking case so

The Pop XL is probably my preferred case rn

This is the reason and the only reason

They found a way to cram in 2 5.25" bays without compromising aesthetics

[gentle pollen]

Whole case is made of solid anodized aluminium, bent vs stamped and all the places where screws go have a rubber ring and padding to reduce vibration/noise.

[gentle pollen]

How many people even use those anymore?

[plucky timber]

I do

[gentle pollen]

I think your in the minority.

[snow dragon]

Probably 5

But I like it

[plucky timber]

5.25" is highly underrated

[gentle pollen]

With the exception of my ancient hybrid Sata SSD, all my drives are NVMe now.

[plucky timber]

It's a useful way to expand front side I/O

[gentle pollen]

My current config:

• 1TB NVMe (Boot/Junk)
• 1TB NVMe (Games)
• 4TB NVMe (work/data)
• 500GB Hybrid SSD (Cold Storage)

Do 5x4 NVMe drives not come in 500gb capacities?

[plucky timber]

probably not cost effective to produce I'd imagine

[gentle pollen]

I want to get a really good boot drive to use for stripped down windows to do overclocking subs

Was hoping I could find a 5x4 NVMe 500GB for like $50.

[abstract pelican]

where can I find the best builds?

[fallen sphinx]

Wdym best builds

[snow dragon]

The best

[untold vessel]

Anyone have a link to the currently best priced 5090? I hear that right now isn't exactly the best time to pick one up.

[stoic island]

Only online wise, ignoring gift cards, https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-tuf-rtx5090-32g-gaming-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814126752

Microcenter may have better deals in store if you're near one

[gentle pollen]

Pretty much all 5090 cards are being scalped to +2800 USD if your buying online. Physical stores might have better deals.

If you're willing to get a 5080 usually once a week or so a Refurbished 5080 shows up for $1050-1100 USD on Newegg.

[snow dragon]

I see 4 right now for 2550

These are open box tho

Basically new but returned

[fallen sphinx]

missing rops:

[snow dragon]

Probably not but if true, return it

[hasty cove]

anyone have any webcam reccomdendation

and headphone reccs

[crimson zinc]

Ask in #peripherals-and-displays

[hasty cove]

nnEERRRRD! (thank you)

[zenith cargo]

is it okay to keep fans full speed for the summer?

my pc heats up my room

ima just keep the fans on 100%

[abstract pelican]

Like I wanna buy the best one out there.

[fallen sphinx]

How much money do you have and do you care about diminishing returns

[loud shuttle]

someones selling this for $650, good deal? i just wanna play league and valorant

[steel musk]

To be fair, they did it with 1990s PC cases too but nowadays good luck finding something similar to those that supports modern stuff

[lyric thistle]

you mean like the case he posted or

[steel musk]

did it come out in the 90s?

[lyric thistle]

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-xl-air/rgb-white-tg-clear/

you can be the judge

[steel musk]

doesnt look like it yeah

case does look cool, was wondering where the drive bay slots were until i realized the bottom parts came off

[fallen sphinx]

No

[south cliff]

What is a good gpu right now for my friends new pc he has a 9600x budget is about 600 for the gpu

[crimson zinc]

9070xt

Or if he can score a 4070 ti

9070XT would probably be better

[weary galleon]

I wish but cheapest one is over $700rn and cheapest 9070 is 650

[south cliff]

5070 is 600

That’s what I was looking at

[weary galleon]

Yeah buncha them at 550

[south cliff]

Or should I tell bro to save for the 9070xt

[weary galleon]

Or wait for a cheaper one yeah

[south cliff]

Is the 9070xt like that!

?

I might have to get one open box

[dusty orbit]

Is this used PC worth $11100 CAD?

I5 14400f 10 cores 16 threads
RTX 4060ti
32gb corsair ram
1tb nvme ssd
Liquid cooling
z980 motherboard

[lyric thistle]

no I would pay 32 thousand

[dusty orbit]

please tell me another joke

that was hilarious

whats the point of typing something like that

be quiet

[snow dragon]

No build is worth 11 grand

Unless you mean 1100

[dusty orbit]

oh i meant $1100

my fault

[lyric thistle]

yeah I wouldn't personally

[crimson zinc]

Same for 9070xt

[crimson zinc]

Honestly, I wouldn’t pay $1100 CAD for that
Maybe $899

The 4060ti really hurts it with the 8gb of vram

[snow dragon]

Well 1100 cad is 805 usd

Thats actually really good

[crimson zinc]

Oh wait

I did my math wrong

[lyric thistle]

beep boop

maybe

[crimson zinc]

Yeah, 1100 sounds fine

[snow dragon]

Yeah thats a really good price

[crimson zinc]

I went backwards

Ignore me

[snow dragon]

@dusty orbit

[dusty orbit]

im picking it up tomorrow, Is there anything i should know before buying a used pc like that?

[snow dragon]

Ask the guy to test it

Rather, ask to test it

Because that is pretty cheap

[dusty orbit]

Just test some games?

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[stoic island]

make them run a benchmark of any sort if you can

[snow dragon]

Run some benchmarks

[dusty orbit]

How do I do that

He said I can test it and do wtv

[snow dragon]

Some games have a benchmark option

This is a long shot but try to get cinebench on there lmfao

[stoic island]

3dmark demo is an option

but if they have games already just see if any games they have can have a benchmark

[south cliff]

My friend might just get the 5070

[fallen sphinx]

rip

[fringe mantle]

Im building my first PC and I can't figure out a good motherboard for my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/363gcx

[fickle bolt]

Don't use one trust

[gentle pollen]

What are you using the PC for?

I see a few places where that build can be improved for less $$$.

Also do you have any intention of overclocking the system?

[fringe mantle]

budget around 2500 dollars, my goals are mostly gaming, streaming/content creation, and software development.

[fringe mantle]

Not immediately as im not very experienced

[gentle pollen]

Do you use any apps that benefit from Nvidia cards?

[fringe mantle]

No not really

[gentle pollen]

Mind if I redo the list?

Any aesthetic preferences?

[fringe mantle]

Go for it, Im seeking guidance

[fringe mantle]

Black, with RGB

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha.

Working on a list

[fringe mantle]

Thx

[gentle pollen]

Almost done

Seems I can squeeze in a 5080

[fringe mantle]

😀

[gentle pollen]

@fringe mantle would you be fine with a Storm Trooper theme build?

Would allow me to squeeze in some better parts and get the aesthetics more consistent.

[fringe mantle]

Sure

[gentle pollen]

@fringe mantle do you care if the RAM has RGB?

I personally prefer recommending no RGB sticks due to the heat it produces for overclocking.

[fringe mantle]

No rgb is fine

for the ram.

[gentle pollen]

Now under $2500

It is now at $2475, I can lower it by another $50 or so by changing the aio. @fringe mantle

[fringe mantle]

Wow! Ya change the aio

[gentle pollen]

@fringe mantle do you have pets? We could do a nice Open Air case.

[fringe mantle]

no pets

[gentle pollen]

Are you open to the idea? Would be different and offer maximum performance due to not having to worry about airflow restrictions.

Note it will need to be cleaned more often if you have a dusty room.

[fringe mantle]

Ya lets do it

[gentle pollen]

Good. It also lowers the cost

Here you go, a cost effective yet stylish Storm Trooper theme PC that can handle just about anything you can throw at it (within reason).

$2424.75 for a 7800x3D + 5080 + 2x32GB setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ApexGenesis/saved/#view=K8CNvK

[gentle pollen]

@fringe mantle

[fringe mantle]

Thanks bro

[gentle pollen]

Happy to help.

[fallen sphinx]

why is that gpu so expensive wtf

please dont buy a 5080 at that price

[fallen sphinx]

dont get that, that 5080 is an absurd price for no reason

[plucky timber]

What is the context here

[fallen sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gc7sFZ save 800$ and get like 94% of the performance

[plucky timber]

Why is there 64GB of ram

[fallen sphinx]

idk

[stoic island]

The 5080 is badly priced but on average it's still ~20% better than 9070xt, the 9070xt is ~85% of a 5080 on average for just 1440p gaming

[plucky timber]

Is ventus still crap

[fallen sphinx]

its not worth 800$ more 😭

[plucky timber]

What

[stoic island]

2x still crap, 3x kind of acceptable

[plucky timber]

$800 more?

[fallen sphinx]

yes

1400$ 5080 vs 720$ 9070xt

wait

i cant do math

700$ but still

[stoic island]

1400 - 720 is not 800

[plucky timber]

That's not $800

[fallen sphinx]

i didnt sleep last night 😦

[stoic island]

But anyways I would add an addendum to try to hunt for near MSRP cards through either best buy or microcenter

[plucky timber]

We also don't know the full context

OP didn't elaborate enough on the use case

[fallen sphinx]

if its gaming, get 32gb ram and the 9070xt imo

[stoic island]

It's vague gaming and content creation

[plucky timber]

Yeah that usually says nothing really

[stoic island]

I'd say it's fair to try to go for 5080 for a $2000+ gaming rig, but more info can help

[plucky timber]

I mean

It could be a $1500 gaming rig

If it's for a gaming only use case

It makes more sense to upgrade down the line

[stoic island]

That's another detail for how willing they are to spend money too

[plucky timber]

True

[stoic island]

If they want better performance, it's going to be diminishing returns, but there's no other option to get more

[plucky timber]

It's a very bad option but yeah I do agree that OP should have the option

[stoic island]

Anyways either way it's a fair build with the little given information, it should have an addendum, but more info is needed to make better changes

[plucky timber]

It's ultimately up to them to determine if the extra performance is worth the price jump

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fsCZ3w

This is probably my take

Not a fan of white but like

Motherboard cuts the price down

Wait

Refurb in brand new

You know what

Ehhh

I'm not too comfortable with refurbs given as recs

But again that depends on OP

[stoic island]

Personally I'd go the way of microcenter bundle for 7800x3d but yea

There might be some Newegg bundles still around for that actually

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qsrq2x

This is probably

Oh wait

Bundle?

[plucky timber]

Hmm do you mind modifying the list I just made based on that?

[stoic island]

No idea if OP lives near a microcenter or not lol

[plucky timber]

True

But anyways

[fallen sphinx]

honestly with the refurb board its not worth it

youll also get 10ns ram this way

[plucky timber]

What refurb board?

There's no refurb here

[fallen sphinx]

the x670

[plucky timber]

Well here's the thing

We don't know if OP wants refurb

So I'm just making another optipn

[stoic island]

If they do, something like this, ram is only 6000c36 and Mobo not white but microcenter lets you swap bundle parts for the cost of the difference iirc so just +$50 or so for a similar thing but all new
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006986/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d,-asus-b650-e-tuf-gaming,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[plucky timber]

Eh

C36 isn't ideal but with the cost savings it's not a big deal

[stoic island]

You can swap the items in person when needed

[plucky timber]

I'd prefer this option for a non refurb

Wait really?

Can you swap the ram for a 6000/6400 C30/32 kit?

[fallen sphinx]

no

[stoic island]

Last time I was at microcenter they told me yes

[fallen sphinx]

they said no to me

[stoic island]

Not like the bundles are taped together or anything

I was at the Indianapolis microcenter

[stoic island]

For the cost of the difference yes afaik

[plucky timber]

Hm

On an unrelated note

6400C32 is back to being the cheapest ram kits on pcpp

[stoic island]

I may have to go check with them again or smth

[stoic island]

I'm gonna keep being lazy and telling people to do 6000c30 for the much higher chance xmp will be stable without touching anything lol

As long as the price difference isn't much

[fallen sphinx]

its a few dollars at most

[plucky timber]

They should just be able to run it at 6000C30 tho right?

[stoic island]

Yes but that takes effort

[plucky timber]

How much effort really

[stoic island]

People don't like having something not work out of the box as advertised

It's not much effort for us but imo for people that just want to build something that works, it's a bit too much work when the cost difference is small

[plucky timber]

That's fair

[fallen sphinx]

more time and effort then making 2 dollars

[stoic island]

So many people just give up and just get a refund when their ram kit won't do xmp lol

Some people you may have seen here

[untold vessel]

https://www.costco.com/acer-aspire-14"-ai-copilot%2B-pc---intel-core-ultra-5-226v-–-wuxga-(1920-x-1200)-touchscreen-display---16gb-ram---1tb-ssd---windows-11-home-–-steel-gray.product.4000344777.html

**Is this the best Laptop I can get for Grad School? **

• Total Budget is $500 USD + Tax.

• Doubt I'd need something more powerful; Don't think I need a dedicated GPU for Investment Banking / Private Equity / Financial Applications.

^Best for the price, that is? Any point to spending more than $500?

[stoic island]

At a glance, don't see any better options rn, you shouldn't really need more than that for classic finance applications

Unless you're going to be doing quant stuff

[plucky timber]

There is also the option of going used

Although I'd imagine that's not that appealing

[crimson zinc]

Used is definitely best in that case

[plucky timber]

Well the thing is

Used laptops has less mass appeal

Compared to used desktop parts

So it depends if OP is fine with used

[untold vessel]

Well hold on now what kind of used laptop are we thinking of here

I might be inclined

[crimson zinc]

There’s a big market for used/refurbished Macs

[plucky timber]

Doesn't have to be a mac too

[untold vessel]

Macs good for Wallstreet & Bloomburg stuff? I'd be willing to relearn the ecosystem

[plucky timber]

You can get refurbished enterprise laptops

[untold vessel]

Thoughts?

[plucky timber]

Meh

Only 8GB ram for $517

Kind of a ripoff

[untold vessel]

Was gonna say, new costco one looking kinda nice

But also I don't know anything about Enterprise/Business laptops-- they really that different / differently powerful than the traditional understanding of "powerful'?

[plucky timber]

Enterprise laptops are good on the used market

They're cheap because organisation dump them on a larger scale

But personally I wouldn't buy one new

[untold vessel]

What should i look for?

Also where should I look

[plucky timber]

Ebay

[untold vessel]

alright on there now

[plucky timber]

Look for the same models as enterprise laptops

[untold vessel]

what models should i look for?

[plucky timber]

Something like "Dell Latitude"

Or other brand's equivalents

Thinkpad?

My used latitude was like

Pff

$80?

My requirements weren't exactly high

I'd say you could find something usable for $150-350

Depending on how intensive the applications are

[south cliff]

Yeah kinda rip he got one for 550 tho

Brand new

[fallen sphinx]

still

[south cliff]

I don’t think I could’ve got a 9070xt for 550 within 2 days

[fallen sphinx]

why are you comparing the 2