building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

ok you know what

that just destroyed my entire case lmao

I completely forgot about used consoles

[weary galleon]

they don't come with a controller but the theoretical pc doesn't come with a keeb and mouse either

[plucky timber]

ok to be fair

keyboard and mouse are generally cheaper

but eh it's not a fair comparison

you can get used controllers for a decent price

xbox one controllers still work on xsx right?

[weary galleon]

yeah

basically the same controller i think lol

[plucky timber]

might be able to get a decent used console and a couple controllers for $400

and probably a couple months of gamepass

[hollow gulch]

i7-5775C beats the R5 3600 in games

[weary galleon]

Ok? Cool?

[latent island]

Hello.
Is there a section here where I can ask for PC recommendations based on the games I'd like to play? I have 0 knowledge of computers and their components so I have no idea what I'm looking at on Newegg's website.

[plucky timber]

I highly doubt that

or at least, as a generalisation

It's like the case with the xeon

it's got good single core but in multi core it just gets absolutely stomped

besides with those old broadwell chips, there's still the matter of actually getting those in the $400 budget

i7 tax is still alive on broadwell

hence why I went for xeons

[weary galleon]

It's a cherry picked example

One-off cpu that has 128mb l4 cache

[weary galleon]

Here works

[plucky timber]

I don't think it'll fit in the budget anyways

considering that it's a special cpu

so that defeats the whole point

[weary galleon]

No shot, I'd imagine they're kinda collectors items

[plucky timber]

yeah

considering how much even 4790Ks still go for

[hollow gulch]

You shouldn't because it is true, though it was moreso just a fun fact it was a disliked cpu when it came out but it aged very well.

[plucky timber]

there is only so much a 4c/8t could do

As good as it is in single thread

[covert vapor]

The 5775C is about $85 on Ebay, but you are restricted to DDR3 and a max of 32gb

[plucky timber]

I'd rather go for a broadwell i7 on X99

likely cheaper too

actually now that I think about it...

I've done a bit more research

and the E5 16xx cpus seems to have better single thread than the 26xx cpus

so what if...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256808191830274.html

I'm gonna actually make a list out of this for funsies

[covert vapor]

The 6900k goes for about 85 if you buy from China, 100+ for US. The 6950x you are looking at 150+

[plucky timber]

yeah I'm looking for a 1680v4 instead

xeons go for a lot less

• they come in bundles

[covert vapor]

Also I see why AMD skipped 6000 series for desktop. They'dve had to rename their 6950x

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cV8wpK

excluding shipping

technically it's possible...

THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION

DO NOT BUY THIS

It's a bit worse than an XSX

I'd say it's around PS5

or slightly weaker

[upper ore]

@weary galleon Finally got my old pc fixed! The bios was extremely outdated and as soon as I bought a new flash drive to do the new update. Everything is working now.

[weary galleon]

nice, glad to hear it

[covert vapor]

Also as much for the PSU as the CPU mobo bundle

[plucky timber]

the miracles of X99 xeons

I should swap out the psu tbh

I was gonna put a TI in this thing

but couldn't fit

there's a blower...

[upper ore]

Also does anyone know if windows is forcing me to update to windows 11? I was never a fan of windows 11 so I've been sticking to windows 10.

[covert vapor]

They won't force you but sometimes they'll throw a page asking if you wanna update

[plucky timber]

650w is too little for a 2080ti right?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7vxQgn

honestly the cpu will still gimp it even with a 2080TI

[upper ore]

It says they won't be updating or support it anymore.

[latent island]

If I'd like to play games like Black Desert Online (main goal), Blade & Soul, South of Midnight, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen order, Hades II or Hollow Knight, what should I be aiming for as a PC?

Again, I don't know anything about PCs. Just that mine is 10 years old, can barely run stuff and it smells like it's burning. And it makes my desk vibrate hard enough to wake my family sometimes.

Thank you for your time and recommendations, if you have any!

[plucky timber]

Budget?

[latent island]

Preferably under $3 200 CAD. That double tax hurts (and tariffs soon).

[stoic island]

bdo can be extremely easy or extremely hard to run depending on what settings you run it on lol

[plucky timber]

honestly could just for best perf/$ rather than using all $3200

[latent island]

My settings are on lowest and it's pretty bad.

[stoic island]

it'll likely be something like 1500cad for everything else and then get your hand on whatever GPU you can

[stoic island]

I got bdo to do 20fps ish on lowest setting on an igpu that couldn't hit 20fps on war thunder lol

but at max settings I couldn't hit 60fps on my 3060ti at 1080p

[latent island]

I don't even know what fps is good or bad, that's how ignorant I am of all this stuff lol

[plucky timber]

what if we just throw a used gpu in here

seems like a used 6800XT or 7700XT would be a good pick

rather than going for a 5070

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bv9Qgn

no GPU

7700XT for $496 cad

that's $357 usd

the hell?

that is sus

oh I'm on the us site

derp

[stoic island]

quick start for a ca list
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DXwXZc

without a GPU that is

[latent island]

And then it's just a matter of compatibility with the components yes?

[stoic island]

example with a GPU
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/b9DNDj

pcpp does most of the automatic checking for compatibility

[plucky timber]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/w4LB9C

optimised it a bit

7600 is a lot cheaper

[stoic island]

yea the cl750g is pretty well priced but I wanted 850w to slap in a 9070xt, 7600 is good to save a bit

[plucky timber]

true

but my mindset is more for undershooting the gpu

say going for a used 7800XT or something

then again the RM850 would work for a used 6950XT

[stoic island]

$30 usd diff between 7600 to 9600x is fine for the little bit of improvement imo

but can save the money if you want to

[latent island]

Ok and is there a minimum I should go for GPUs? Like if I wanna run games on medium settings? BDO, Genshin, Star Wars. I don't wanna spend the next 10 years playing games on lowest settings

[plucky timber]

you should shoot for the best performance/$ gpu

you can always upgrade the gpu

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/h96F3w

[stoic island]

I mean mininum is probably like 6800xt/3070 ish, I'd say 9070xt is still a good option right now though

[plucky timber]

swapped out the cooler and placed the RM850 back in

for more gpu options

[stoic island]

950cad 9070xt is 690usd, that's a very good price compared to the US market

and that's a good enough price for me to say just get that instead of used

[latent island]

Thanks guys. I'll save these lists and see if I can get a local store to order them and/or assemble stuff. And a GPU!

[stoic island]

PCPP has all of the retailers where the price came from on the right side, you can basically do this, with the option to swap the 9600x for a 7600 to save the ~50cad, and/or change the 9070xt for something used if there's a good deal local used
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/b9DNDj

[latent island]

I want everything to be brand new

[stoic island]

wait a second

why tf does pcpp have the rm850 at 155cad when corsair lists it at 185cad

lemme change that

[plucky timber]

eh

at that point I'd just go for the 750w

[stoic island]

updated
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8HHDKq

core reactor ii price isn't that bad

I'm doing a 9070xt off 700w but I'd prefer giving people a lot more headroom just in case and to prevent any headaches

[latent island]

I was just going to buy the Legion Tower 7i Gen 8 (Intel) with RTX 4070 Ti Super (90V6000KUS) and hope for the best fingers crossed but someone recommended Newegg and PCPP definitely is cheaper but heck it's like algebra 😔

[stoic island]

Building a PC yourself is not very hard, it's just following the manual, almost like legos

[latent island]

Thanks again! I've saved them all

[plucky timber]

heads up

the market can change a lot in a month

so if you're not buying anytime soon

then you might want to ask for a new list when you're actually buying the parts

so you can get the best performance/$ at the point in time you are making the purchase

[stoic island]

don't make that rush you into buying anything, but if you won't be buying for a while, the market changes very quickly, and the list can only be good for when it is made

[latent island]

Yeah I was delaying buying a new PC cause of prices but in that time, the local store/brand that sold me my PC have all shutdown and the prices def went up lol

But it smells like burning rubber/plastic where the power supply? is. I think it needs to be replaced

[stoic island]

if it really smells like it's burning, you should turn it off and replace it

[covert vapor]

They set Windows 10 to be end of service in 2025 except for a specific version reserved for companies. Microsoft is also being a bunch of scumbags and are offering a paid subscription service for an extended service program for post EoS updates. Other than no more updates for people not paying for that program, Microsoft is not forcing people to upgrade to 11

Just like they didn't force anyone to upgrade from 7 to 8/8.1 or 10

They'll probably start getting more annoying about requests to upgrade though

[snow dragon]

Its been the same one for a while

Tells you to switch over and when you dont another one comes up and has different choices to pick

Maybe one day you slip up and unintentionally do it

[weary galleon]

Microsoft is also being a bunch of scumbags and are offering a paid subscription service for an extended service program for post EoS updates.
I wouldn't call this a scumbag thing but moreso an extended (paid) grace period for companies to move over to win11

[snow dragon]

Dont think corpos are on w10 home

[covert vapor]

They made a bleh OS, saw an opportunity to squeeze the people who don't want to move over and chose to make a temporary subscription service for updates

Companies that need Windows 10 will either be using the version that is going to have continued support or will not be moving to Windows 11 until they have a reason to

[covert vapor]

They also did the same with Windows 7. Every other OS they made never had a subscribe for more updates service and even Windows 7 explicitly limited it to users of the editions targeted towards businesses

[night aspen]

Hey, so I got some help here earlier today picking out a build and I am very happy with how it looks, but I did notice the GPU is out of stock, is there any good alternatives I can look out for this build to have a higher chance to catch one available soon?

(Here is the build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rj2NDj)

[snow dragon]

There is the 9070 which is about 10% worse compared to the xt

[night aspen]

hmmm alright, ill save this

any other alternatives that arent a large dip in power?

[snow dragon]

Well you can do some cope to get the 9070 to xt levels

[night aspen]

lol

[snow dragon]

It works

Its like vega all over again

If you can get the 9070 get it

[upper ore]

I hated how windows 11 just felt like stuff were extremely buried and alittle harder to get to. And then at the time there was so many bugs it was insane. Has all of that been fixed?

[analog hearth]

TIL that people actually use the menu system of an operating system rather than using the search bar to find the setting they need

[dim reef]

Can someone remind me of the difference between A-XMP and EXPO

[snow dragon]

Its mostly the same stuff but 24h2 is still messed up

At worst you have to do a couple more clicks for something but its more or less reskinned windows 10 with extra corpo stuff in it

[rocky gull]

Can someone cook up a build budget of 1400

[lyric scarab]

I’m considering rebuilding my and adding a new case (phanteks NV7) and case fans. I might change the cooler as well. My chip is the 7800x3d. Do you recommend the phanteks AIO or do you guys have another brand in mind?

[stoic island]

Currently thermalright provides incredible value for the price, nothing else can compete in price while still keeping up in performance

[lyric scarab]

Yeh I currently have a thermal right one.

I’m thinking of changing the fans on this:

Thermalright Frozen Notte ARGB 72.37 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RD7scf/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-360-black-argb-d1

[weary galleon]

keep the fans, thermalright makes good ones

[lyric scarab]

switching to all phanteks fans tho

[stoic island]

t30s are cool but very expensive

[lyric scarab]

going with the D30

[lyric scarab]

you think im gonna need argb extensions for the nv7?

[formal girder]

Thermalright also has an aio with a screen the thermalright warframe argb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sxP8TW/thermalright-frozen-warframe-argb-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-warframe-360-black-argb

Tho argb extensions aren’t required but more so if you don’t plan on daisy chaining the rgb

[lyric scarab]

ah neat. thx

[snow wasp]

any techie here?

[fickle bolt]

Sup

[fickle bolt]

U need help?

[analog hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-horst-she-died-gif-17363124641954351289

[snow dragon]

[plucky timber]

Hello

[leaden goblet]

what’s the best build for getting a consistent 360fps in fortnite without having to spend a ridiculous amount?

[plucky timber]

Whatever you can afford

Run it at competitive settings

[snow wasp]

Why do you need that much fps? Just curious to know.

[snow wasp]

Hi can you please tell me what is the best SSD (both M.2 or normal SSD) 4tb or more? I want something that's been tested and safe to assume that will last long.

[plucky timber]

What can you afford?

What is the use case?

[snow wasp]

Not sure but maybe £200-300?

[snow wasp]

What's that sorry

[plucky timber]

What are you using the ssd for?

[snow wasp]

Installing games mainly and record gameplay and maybe store some files too

Do i need to spend more than 300 for a good one? I want one that will last very long time and preferably bigger storage so i don't have to think about replacing it

[plucky timber]

so you don't need "the best"

although "the best" are all under 300

oh what you can't even get any mediocre ones

the value nvmes are a dollar's difference from the high end ssds

wtf

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/rLqrxr/acer-predator-gm7-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-bl9bwwr120
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/CVWJ7P/teamgroup-mp44-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpw004t0c101
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/RKYmP6/samsung-990-pro-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v9p4t0bw

All these are high end nvmes

[snow wasp]

One of the techie here recommended me two of the good ones at that time last year butt i couldn't but at that time. They said it's not about brand name it's about that they are at that time, they tested and found the best or better ones.

[plucky timber]

it is indeed not

there is no such thing as "the best"

only what's best for what you are doing

[snow wasp]

I see but they said Samsung are doing the worst recently therefore they did not to go for them

[plucky timber]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2BvD4D/silicon-power-ud90-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44ud9005
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/79NYcf/msi-spatium-m461-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-spatium-m461-4tb

here's two mid range nvmes

[plucky timber]

yes but this is a 990 Pro

the EVO and non EVO are the ones you should avoid

990 Pro is overkill for your use case

but I put it here anyways because the price is somewhat reasonable

I wouldn't recommend the M461 because it's within 1-2 pounds of the GM7

UD90 is quite a bit cheaper

[snow wasp]

Could you explain a bit please

[plucky timber]

They're designed for prosumer use cases

such as sustained writes

[snow wasp]

Will they last 10 years or more?

[plucky timber]

that's very optimistic

and not really realistic

lifespan for storage isn't measure in years

but in TBW

but even that is not a given

a 3000TBW ssd has the possibility to die below that rating, albeit unlikely

[snow wasp]

I kind of read how the lifespan work for ssd

[plucky timber]

If your really want it to "last"

get the one with the longest warranty

and don't rely on it to keep your data safe

keep backups

[snow wasp]

Yeah i understand

So out the ones you linked which one would be best?

[plucky timber]

the 990 pro

but like I said

on paper it's "the best"

[snow wasp]

Yeah i understand thanks

[plucky timber]

but for your use case you can easily just get the UD90

[snow wasp]

I will check this one out too

Could you recommend something bigger than 4tb?

[plucky timber]

not unless you want to spend an exponential amount of money

I'd just get multiple 4TBs

you can get 3 4TB UD90s for the price of a 8TB SN850X

[snow wasp]

I got 2 slot for m.2 i currently have an 1 tb and 500gb and normal ssd2tb

[plucky timber]

990 PRO 4TB has a 2500 TBW
and 5 years warranty
UD90 4TB has a 2400 TBW and 5 years warranty

like I said

you can pay for the best and you won't see the difference purely due to your use case

[snow wasp]

So 990 Pro got the highest TBW?

[plucky timber]

on paper

[snow wasp]

So who would get benefit from using it?

[plucky timber]

professionals who need to hammer the ssd on a daily basis

they're not only after the durability

but also the sustained write performance

and just the faster speeds in general

[snow wasp]

I see

[plucky timber]

In gaming ssd speeds don't matter as much

you'd barely be able to tell the difference between a gen 4 and a gen 5 ssd

[snow wasp]

Yeah that's true

[plucky timber]

if at all

The GM7 at 229.99 pounds is a decent middle point

but the UD90 at 189.99 is unbeatable in value

especially if it's just a storage drive

[snow wasp]

So do those professional have to replace those 990 Pro every few years because of how much pressure they put on them?

[plucky timber]

it really depends

on how much is written

[snow wasp]

Good price

[plucky timber]

if it's within the warranty period and it's within the TBW

they could get a free replacement from samsung

if the ssd fails outside that period

well

they'll have to buy a new drive

[snow dragon]

I dont have a gen 4 drive but I might say the same for 3 vs 4 too

[plucky timber]

in gaming use cases

yes

[snow wasp]

Thanks for your help, i appreciate it 🙂 @plucky timber

[stoic island]

99% of the time you're going to run out the time on the 5 year warranty before you hit 2400 terabytes written, even if you're doing creative work or anything of that sort, anything short of something like chia mining won't do that. 990 pro is a top performer but it isn't the best in a lot of metrics, especially because of the weird 5.0x2/4.0x4 thing

[snow wasp]

Yeah true

[stoic island]

I'd say I use my drive more than most people, I'm at 100TB written on my 2tb drive over 2 and a half years

[plucky timber]

yeah you generally just want a drive that's not hot garbage

[snow wasp]

Ah i found what the previous techies recommend me, there were two techies and both said these two

[plucky timber]

the UD90 manages to be the cheapest drive... and also happens to be good

when was this?

the tech market changes a lot over a couple weeks

[snow wasp]

It was about 5 months ago i think

[plucky timber]

yeah that's outdated information

[stoic island]

z44a7 seems new, are you sure that was what was recommended?

[plucky timber]

probably mp44

that'd line up with 5 months ago

[stoic island]

mp44 has been and still is pretty decent for the price

[plucky timber]

yeah

MP44 is a high end ssd

although with his use case

[snow wasp]

Yeah I'm sure

[plucky timber]

the UD90 is very compelling

[stoic island]

ud90 is a simple enough drive but qlc and slower

[plucky timber]

oh is it qlc?

that's unfortunate

[snow wasp]

What's that

So then 990 it is 😄

[stoic island]

4tb is guaranteed qlc, 1tb/2tb can be either qlc or tlc

[plucky timber]

I mean it's still good as a storage drive

[plucky timber]

well no

[snow wasp]

I can't find 4tb on Amazon for 990 Pro

[stoic island]

how much does the 990 pro cost you

[plucky timber]

I've linked other options

the M461, GM7 and MP44 are all good options too

GM7 is only 229

[snow wasp]

I'll check other sites tomorrow

[plucky timber]

compared to the 243 of the pro

the UD90 is QLC but that doesn't mean it's bad

[snow wasp]

Can't keep the eyes opened 😄

[plucky timber]

on paper it's inferior but in practice

it's less apparent

[snow wasp]

Thanks and Bye 👋

[snow wasp]

Oh

I understand

[stoic island]

It's slower in terms of peak sequential performance and noticeably worse for sustained if you run out of the pslc cache

But how much that matters depends on what you're doing

[plucky timber]

the GM7 and the MP44 would be a good middle ground

[snow wasp]

I might just go for this one so could you please double check if I'm getting the right one? @plucky timber

https://amzn.eu/d/eK657N7

Should i buy it from Amazon? @plucky timber

Also, what will be a good backup drive? Something to store photos, videos, and other files for a very long time. Or any of them are fine as long as they’re not being written to or deleted often, so the drive doesn’t wear out too much?

[stoic island]

any are fine as long as you power it once in a while

on the timescale of months that is

it takes a couple of years for it to "degrade" where the change trap slowly loses charge but it'll be fine as long as you power it up and use it at least once a year

[snow wasp]

Oh i see. I might get this one instead actually.

https://amzn.eu/d/7UWH8Lv

[stoic island]

that part applies to every drive

every ssd

[snow wasp]

Should i pay a bit more and get it with heatsink?

[stoic island]

if your mobo has a heatsink on the slot, don't need another one

if you do get 990 pro you need to make sure to update the firmware

[snow wasp]

I got a cheap mobo

[stoic island]

early firmware on 990 pro is going to destroy itself

[stoic island]

it's just a matter of it there will be something on top of the drive to act as a heatsink already or not

cheap mobos nowadays still get something on the m.2 slot

[snow wasp]

What does it mean?

[stoic island]

early firmware had a bug where it keeps trying to write until it dies over a couple of days

[snow wasp]

Omg

[snow dragon]

I think the firmware came out before that drive did

That was like 2 years ago

Unless that drive came out around that time idk

But there is a high chance that it won't come with that if it did

[simple carbon]

Hello i was wondering if anyone would help me find a good pc build for around 700-800$ range? if anyone could help pls dm me or @ me Thank you

[plucky timber]

there's also the GM7 and the MP44 btw

those are also solid options

[snow dragon]

[snow wasp]

I have 2 m.2 drives and they surviving for about 5 years on the same case and motherboard so that means i shouldn't be that much worried about 990 Pro i guess

[stoic island]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-990-pro-firmware-update-released-ssd-health

[snow wasp]

Do they have dram or pscl?

[plucky timber]

no but they have HMB

which is what the UD90 also has

(I think)

someone fact check me

[stoic island]

ye all hmb

[snow wasp]

This is the heatsink, is it too bad for that drive?

[stoic island]

it's should be fine

just need something there

[snow wasp]

I don't have Overclocker or anything and i have decent cooling

[snow wasp]

?

I don't get that sorry

[stoic island]

it needs something to act as a heatsink, it doesn't matter that much what exact kind of heatsink you have, it just needs something to act as a buffer for the heat and to increase the surface area to help dissipate heat

[snow wasp]

Thanks for your help, i will get the one without heatsink then.

[manic cloak]

Anyone think 300$ for a 7800x3d in the wrong box is fair? 😭

Looks like Mom is helping her son sell it on Facebook, but I kinda have a sketch feeling about it

[weary galleon]

They may have bought a 9800x3d and didn't have the 7800x3d box still? A while ago I bought a 5600x that came in a 5900x box and the seller just said they had lost the 5600x box

[fallen sphinx]

It’s a decent deal if you don’t live near a microcenter

[manic cloak]

I do live near the MN one, just I kinda want to save money lol

[fallen sphinx]

The 7800x3d bundle is better value than that

[manic cloak]

the 8.375% sales tax still takes a good 40$ out

[manic cloak]

true, but microcenter has b650 gaming ax2 for 80$, kits of ram from microcenter bundles on facebook for 60$

[fallen sphinx]

Hm

I mean, that would be good

[manic cloak]

it'd save me about 100$

just at the risk of not brand new

But then again, microcenter only has a 2 week return policy, and their warranty is extra

I also get the same kit of ram too no matter what

[fallen sphinx]

Up to you

[manic cloak]

The kid doesn’t have the old box, if any RMA issues/finding serial would be a pain so I dropped the buy

[wanton viper]

Hey my computer had an outage occur, my system won't display. Please help.

[hollow gulch]

its on the cpu lol

[vale epoch]

Guys any idea on what might be happening?

[manic cloak]

?

[vale epoch]

My desktop is doing this weird blinking whenever i hover over to the change desktop icon in the taskbar

[manic cloak]

does it do that when you do windows tab?

[vale epoch]

Yup

Think i noticed this happening after i installed mhwilds

Dont think this happened before

[manic cloak]

Could be a drivers thing, I mean when I do desktop 1 with discord open and go into desktop 2 (nothing on there) everything but my task bar goes black for half a second

just a crappy windows transition, but i'd definitely DDU first

[vale epoch]

Hmm i did update my drivers to the first 572.xx version (4070super) but then rolled back to 566.36 after the blue screen fiasco

I should prolly do a ddu yeah

[manic cloak]

doesn't hurt anyways, plus it's not too big of a deal but of course we want to fix it

but even then, check all your display settings too

[vale epoch]

Which ones?

[manic cloak]

Ik you have nivida, but AMD likes to "recommend game settings" for games I play to increase performance, and sometimes it likes to change my resolution to 1080p instead of native 1440p

[manic cloak]

driver + windows settings

if you haven't DDU'd yet, check nivida then windows

[upper ore]

When my girlfriend is playing Palia. The game either crashed or this shows up. I'm stumped and not sure what to do.

[timid bronze]

Im planning on buying a new gen 4 nvme 2TB. Currently my os is running on a gen 3 512Gb should i leave it there or install os and games on the new ssd and use the other nvme for other stuff

[weary galleon]

Assuming the 512gb is decent quality I'd probably just leave the OS on there

[timid bronze]

Its the A-DATA SSD 512GB XPG GAMMIX S5 NVMe M.2 228

[alpine horizon]

So I’m a beginner, i just upgraded my CPU and I’m wondering if i should upgrade my cooler because my Fans have been going crazy ever since i installed it or maybe i’m just being paranoid and its completely normal

If curious i went from a ryzen 5 5600G to a Ryzen 7 5700X

[analog hearth]

Is it might a random fluctuation every few seconds? That’s just a normal Ryzen thing. Is it normal? No. Is it normal for Ryzen? Yes. Why? Idk lol

But if you said your max CPU utilization in your power settings in Control Panel to 99% instead of 100%, the fans will calm down (do this for the Balanced power plan)

I’m working on a program that lets you change power plans a lot quicker than going through Control Panel

[upper ore]

Can anyone help please?

[fickle bolt]

looks like the game bugged out. the main thread had an event and it broke.

I'd reinstall the game

[upper ore]

Okay

And yeah it happens everytime she plays.

[fickle bolt]

what happens directly before the crash?

like what triggers it

[dusky hearth]

Make sure all drivers are updated as well (except for GPU if you're on Nvidia)

[snow dragon]

Newest driver fixed the temperature bug

So would def update still

[weary galleon]

Or just stay on 566.36

[snow dragon]

Maybe

[weary galleon]

That's what I'm doing for the time being

[snow dragon]

The driver that fixed the 572 issues then introduced its own issue where you put the pc to sleep and whatever temperature the gpu was at when it went to sleep will stay that way when you wake it up

Then new driver came out one hour after jays video and it fixed it

But during those few days, if you had a manual fan curve set, then it wont ram up because it is reporting the temperature it was at when you put it in sleep

However the default curve is controlled by the card itself so not a big deal if you never touched anything

[weary galleon]

I have a custom curve

I need to work on it though bc it doesn't like starting from a standstill

[timid bronze]

I currently have this configuration: 512gb for windows and programs, 2tb hdd for games and stuff like videos.
I want to get an m.2 2tb.
Was thinking about the samsung 990 evo plus or the wd sn850x. Also looked at the crucial t500 but saw some complaints about it crashing to lower speeds if u can elaborate on that. What is your recommendation?

[stoic island]

T500 and sn850x are both top performers, 990 Evo plus is a step below both. T500 is configured a bit weirdly, the pSLC cache is most of the drive, so once you run out, the performance drops to basically 0, and it writes at the speed the pSLC recovers at. The advantage is that it has a bigger pSLC cache so you sustain that higher performance for longer.

[stoic island]

The behavior for sustained write is something like this:
990 Evo plus writes at 6000mb/s for 40s and then drops to 1500mb/s for the rest of the write,
T500 writes at 7000mb/s for 120s and then drops to 0, and then every few seconds come back to 7000mb/s for a second and then back to 0.
Sn850x writes at 7000mb/s for 60s, and then drops to 1500mb/s for the rest of the write

[tawny violet]

I'm fairly sure that the SN850X would be better then

Although, what does the math come out to?

840000 megabytes for the T500 over 120 seconds

510000 for the SN850X over the same 120 seconds

Huh, even with the fixed speed on the 580 it'd need significantly more time to catch up

Fascinating

[stoic island]

Once you're out, the performance kinda dies and it's basically unusable for anything that requires constantly reading or writing to the drive

[tawny violet]

Okay something is wrong

There's no way the T500 can write 820 gigabytes in 2 minutes

That does not make sense

I guess that's theoretical performance

[stoic island]

Also it's not quite 120s, it's ~110, just rounded up

[stoic island]

It can and does

It uses basically all of its TLC as pSLC

Which would be 1/3 the space of 2tb

Well not quite 820 but yea

It writes all of its TLC in the form of pslc

And then runs out and you wait for it to recover

[stoic island]

Oh forgot to mention this would all be on fresh drives

[tawny violet]

I don't see myself move 820 gigabytes of data all that often in one go

At least in a consumer/gaming PC setting

Warzone install is what, 200 gigs?

[stoic island]

If 75% of the drive is full, the pSLC cache would become 166gb

The more full it is the less pSLC you'll have

Applies to the other drives too but yea

[weary galleon]

keep in mind that nvme speeds really don't matter for gaming

[stoic island]

They were talking about videos so my guess is part of what they'll use it for is video editing, where it may matter with higher resolution raw footage

[weary galleon]

oop missed that and just saw gaming, my bad

[stoic island]

It could be either, if just gaming, it won't really matter

[weary galleon]

for raw 4k video yeah you might see a difference. For just 1080p or 1440p gaming clips it shouldn't matter

[stoic island]

Outside of the t500 quirk coming up if you're like >90% full on the drive

[weary galleon]

I think that goes for most ssds, you wanna leave 10% empty

helps with both perf and longevity

[stoic island]

Most ssds when you run out of pslc will just have native tlc you can write to and continue using, but with the t500 quirk, once you're out of pslc, it just stops until it recovers pSLC

[timid bronze]

Forgot to mention the pc is just for gaming and watching content, no heavy loads and 4k videos and stuff

[stoic island]

All of them are fine for that, just grab whichever is cheapest

[timid bronze]

T500 then. Tnx 🙂

[timid bronze]

If you have any cheaper offers that performance wise will be the same for my needs ill happily hear them

[stoic island]

this is pretty cheap for the US rn
https://www.newegg.com/kingspec-2tb-xg-7000-series/p/0D9-000D-00172

[weary galleon]

is that the one that techpowerup tagged as having multiple hardware versions?

Ah yeah it is. iirc we talked about it and the 4tb is the one to be wary about, I think the 2tb is ok

[stoic island]

ye, the 4tb can be qlc, 2tb is only known to be tlc

[timid bronze]

I cant find a lot of information about that one is it reliable? Also they dont sell it in my country is it safe to order from ali express

[stoic island]

what country

[timid bronze]

Israel

Is the kingston nv3 a good pick

[lyric scarab]

Anyone can recommend a good case display screen?

[stoic island]

What's the price like

it's a much more budget drive

[timid bronze]

The nv3 is like 120$ here and the cheapest option of the other 3 we talked about earlier is the t500 is 160$

[stoic island]

What other options do you have?

[delicate rivet]

@stoic island Not sure if you remember but I had the issue where my screen kept having pixels and screen tearing

I switched to normal hdmi cable instead of display port and it seems to be working fine

is the display port on my monitor messed up then or something?

[stoic island]

could be cable, port on your monitor, or port on your GPU

[delicate rivet]

Is something fixable if its on monitor

[stoic island]

Unlikely unless it's just bad contact

[timid bronze]

Cheapest one i could find is the nv3

[manic cloak]

Any opinions on 9070xt Asus Prime for 720$?

[stoic island]

pretty decent for this amrket

[stoic island]

what options do you have between nv3 and t500?

[timid bronze]

MSI SPATIUM M470 PRO
Western Digital Blue SN580
AGI AI828
Wd black sn 770
Kingston kc3000

[stoic island]

I'd grab the sn770 over nv3 if it's at a similar price

oh and kc3000 over both if it's at a similar price

[timid bronze]

Kc3000 is just 10$ under t500 should i just get the t500

[stoic island]

kc3000 is pretty similar performance wise to sn850x

bigger pslc cache than sn850x but recovers the cache a bit slower

doesn't have the same quirk as t500

[timid bronze]

I think im just gonna buy the t500 thank you for the help

[stoic island]

alright good luck

[dense pine]

Hey guys I have a question my computer turns on but I get now display just black screen this was after it didn't want to turn on at all after disconnecting everything and plugging it back in it comes on but no display just black screen I've swapped gpus and checked ram and it seems all good I just don't know what else it could be

[dusky hearth]

Swapping GPUs sometimes requires a CMOS reset

[dense pine]

I did that as well I swapped the batteries

[fickle bolt]

does the pc actually turn on

like are there any signs of life whatsoever

[dense pine]

Yes rgb comes on fans on seems on the monitor says connection no signal

Just black screen when "on"

[fickle bolt]

what GPU you have

[dense pine]

Amd 5600 xt

[fickle bolt]

and you said the monitor detects the gpu but doesn't output anything?

[dense pine]

Yes

I've also swapped gpus and it has the same issue

[fickle bolt]

ok it's a problem with your monitor then

try this- if you can connect it to another device and access the monitor settings, see which input source is selected.

i would also swap around cables and ports

[dense pine]

I did do that with the moniter as well

The moniter is just a small TV that I can use a remote to chnage and access

[fickle bolt]

ok

what's the display input set to currently?

[dense pine]

Hdmi 2

[fickle bolt]

I assume that's the one you're using, hmmmmm

[dense pine]

The gpu only has 1 hdmi slot i haven't tried display ports yet

And yes it is

Like the moniter also detects the cord is plugged in just no signal

[fickle bolt]

if you have a DP cable and a port oin the monitor, I'd switch to that

[dense pine]

Okay

[old sedge]

this is what im using now is there anything i can do to upgrade this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPthXk this is the case https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/spec/getspec.aspx?n=CAS&g=1&sid=CAS&pid=CS_CPONYXIA&v=Cyberpower ONYXIA Mid-Tower Black Gaming Case w%2F USB 3.0%2C Front %26 Side Tempered Glass

[upper ore]

Can anyone help me with this? This game is still crashing even after I reinstall it. Is it with my old pc or is it just the game

[quiet cedar]

Make sure you have no oc or undervolt applied to any of your componenets

[crimson zinc]

What’s your budget?

[old sedge]

not to sure really want to save as much as posible tho

possible

[stoic island]

Main upgrade is still going to be GPU, whatever you can get for a decent price

[crimson zinc]

Do you have a ballpark?

[plucky timber]

You really can't upgrade on the cpu side

So you're left with the gpu

8700k has a bit of headroom to work with

Upgrading the SSD might be a good idea too

Going from the dramless sata to a gen 3 ssd (or gen 4 but you'll be capped at gen 3 speeds) might be beneficial

[spice hemlock]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hjFPYd

what you guys think about this as my final build before graphics card?

waiting on a good deal for a good card to show up

[fallen sphinx]

Why is 9800x3d that much

[plucky timber]

Meh value

[stoic island]

make sure to get everything at close to msrp prices, that 9800x3d is out of stock at normal prices rn, and make sure to plan out what you're actually doing with that case, you shouldn't really need 3 extra fans, and make sure you pay attention to GPU size and the PSU orientation, since those affect what fans fit where in that case.

since you have a 360mm aio in the list, you're limited to F2.5/F3 layouts in the case, so that you can top mount the 360mm, but that limits you to less room for GPU

[zenith cargo]

my entire pc crashes and restarts after exiting a video from fullscreen on yt while running a game in the background

[obsidian wigeon]

run ddu and reinstall gpu drivers

[snow dragon]

This might be an amd thing

I didnt have a crash but I would have a gpu reset if I were to fullscreen a discord video on my secondary vertical monitor

Wouldnt happen every time tho

[tall shard]

What’s a good air cooler for a 5 5600 to keep it quiet and cool because the stock cooler is not doing the job

[snow dragon]

Nothing crazy

You can get a super cheap thermalright cooler

Doesnt have to be the peerless assassin it can be something else even cheaper

Id cooling makes some cheap stuff too

[tall shard]

I might get the 214 xt

It fits in a matx case tho?

[snow dragon]

Yeah

[tall shard]

Some more rgb also

[snow dragon]

Some matx are smaller but a lot of matx cases are just a shorter mid tower

[tall shard]

Ima measure it

Make sure it will fit

[snow dragon]

Yours is like a smaller mid tower so you should be fine

[tall shard]

Alr

[snow dragon]

Sure

Oh you can look up the case

[tall shard]

Oh yeah

[snow dragon]

It will have the measurements for cooler sizes

[weary galleon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wfn9TW/thermalright-assassin-x-refined-se-rgb-v2-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120r-se-v2-d6

Or this, which will be overkill for a 5600 but you can put pretty much any cpu under it and it will keep it cool. Good if you upgrade in the future

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb

[snow dragon]

True at least it would be ultra quiet lol

I love overkill cooling

[tall shard]

prob jus gonna go with the cheaper one

spent enough money on the pc and still need a activation key lol

[weary galleon]

the assassin x is still great for a 5600 and will work for a 5700x3d or 7600/7500F in the future

[tall shard]

How’s it compared to the se 214 xt

[weary galleon]

I think they're pretty similar performance wise, but I would personally go for the assassin just because it's from thermalright

[tall shard]

Should I buy like name brand thermal paste

[weary galleon]

the assassin comes with a small tube of thermalright paste which in my experience is fine

[crude onyx]

Are 2 140fans better than 3 120 fans?

as in quieter?

[weary galleon]

I want to say yes but I'm not certain

The difference is likely small either way

[snow dragon]

Yeah I would say that they are

Probably not by much but they probably would be better

[crude onyx]

ill take it. i just want as quiet of a pc as I can get whlie being moderately cooling efficient

[snow dragon]

True

140s move more at a lower rpm

[cloud hatch]

Who to fix my pc if it is not downloading

[mystic dune]

i believe you need to give just a bit more context so someone can try and offer advice

[frigid jackal]

Newly buily pc, turned on the pc with a screw driver earliwe to test and bios shower up, but now with the front panel connector connected it wont turn on

no fans spinning or anything

any help 🥺

[snow dragon]

I dont think thats the front panel connector

There is nothing plugged into whats labeled pw

So from left to right on the top row, it would be pin 3 and 4

[frigid jackal]

ohhh alright

[snow dragon]

If it is, I guess its one of those that dont have all of the lights or something because I was expecting more wires

What is on the connector

[frigid jackal]

yeah the manual for it said it was that one there

ill check in a second

[plucky timber]

That is the front panel header

However you've got everything plugged into the wrong position

[snow dragon]

Yeah gotta move it over

[frigid jackal]

lmaoo alright

my bad

yep its good now lol

[snow dragon]

[neon condor]

Please state what your computer is, a laptop, desktop? Also can you open system info & tell us what some basic specs are on the PC? Is it a Dell, HP, Acer, Lenovo etc... or is it a desktop brand like Oragin PC etc.

Please give more information so your request can further be addressed.

[frigid jackal]

I bypassed the lets get you connected to a network screen and setup everything, but now I install the wifi drivers but it wont work for my gigabyte b650 mobo

in the device manager this is all I see

i’m assuming i installed the wrong driver?

[cloud hatch]

It is a desktop

[spice hemlock]

since im not super knowledgeable on layouts should I just go with something bigger you think? or most of everything I have would work exception of the fans and grab a specific GPU?

[stoic island]

Just take a look at the case's site and make sure you understand how you'll be putting it together, it all works together, just that for example you may not be able to put 3 fans up top depending on PSU placement, be careful with details and knowing that you may only have 334mm for the GPU instead of the max listed 415mm

[raven pebble]

Is this bad? I'm running occt rn

[plucky timber]

That is a cpu yes

[raven pebble]

I'm talking about the pic on the right, is that bad?

[plucky timber]

That just looks like different lighting

[snow dragon]

Cant wait until I get a cpu that looks like that in a couple days

[plucky timber]

Can I steal a core

[snow dragon]

Well I will be selling my good ol 5600 if you want

[snow dragon]

Well thats interesting

[raven pebble]

Still ok?

[raven pebble]

Yeah lmao

[snow dragon]

Can you wipe that off

Probably not maybe you already tried that

[snow dragon]

@plucky timber

[modest iron]

Hi

My current keyboard sucks thinking of buying a new one, any suggestions? only thing i care about is that its the best gaming keyboard i can get for my budget ,150-190 $

[frigid jackal]

usd?

[stoic island]

Keychron K2 HE will be fine

[plucky timber]

I want a single core

[snow dragon]

Hmm

Maybe if 9700x

[plucky timber]

One singular core

no HT

Just one core

[snow dragon]

One true core

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-albrecht-entrati-true-you-are-true-warframe-1999-gif-1092476567053353718

[modest iron]

Yes

[modest iron]

Would tiger lite be better

Venom pbc

[stoic island]

It'll be comparable, the stabs will be nicer but it'll end up being more expensive when considering switches and keycaps

Or at least I think Keychron still uses clip in stabs on K series? Supposed to have been updated but generally you're still going to have more and better options with screw in stabs

[plucky timber]

what about the Königstiger

[mental hazel]

One core to rule them all, One core to find them,

One core to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

[snow wasp]

Hi @plucky timber I got the 990 Pro as you advised and i need a bit of help from you please.

i didn't know how else i could check the firmware version so i downloaded Samsung Magician and it showing it got the lastest firmware update, is it the up to date version and does this software show exact version the SSD currently have?

[raven prism]

hi

can i get some help

[raven prism]

boomer i got the computer built

[raven prism]

you too you helped me too i got the computer built

but like i've never used a pc before and idk what steps to take and i started downloading games and stuff but im still very lost

[raven prism]

NEVERMIND I GOT IT

ILL SEND A PIC OF MY BUILD WHEN I GET EVERYTHING SITUATED

I ACCIDENTALLY PLUGED MY HDMI DISPLAY INTO MY MOTHERBOARD

BAHAHAHAHA

[modest iron]

Hi i got this

[raven prism]

actually now i have a question boomer do you know how i can change the leds on my case

ill send u the one u rec again

Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower
Case

this case

[raven pebble]

it will show it in drive details right under dashboard

[stoic island]

fair

[frigid jackal]

im tryna install drivers for my gigabyte b650 eagle ax and when I try to install the wifi drivers from their website it'll say correct install but I still can't access wifi and it doesn't seem to appear on my device manager

[raven prism]

where do i get an activation key

[stoic island]

Double check which version of the board you have, they have 2 separate wifi drivers since one version of the mobo uses a realtek chip and another uses an Intel wifi chip

[stoic island]

Windows activation key? You either don't put one in if you don't want to activate windows, if you physically bought windows, it's written usually inside the packaging, if you bought it online, usually it'll be emailed to you.

[mossy lion]

hello question i made a new pc that come with 6 rpg fans with the case. They are molex connected together is there any way for me to control the color of them or is that out of the question. Here is the case i used

Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case

[weary galleon]

If the only connector on them is molex I don't think they're controllable

[raven pebble]

Are u using the antenna lol

[plucky timber]

sorry this is a bit out of my area of expertise, I'd recommend asking in #storage-devices

[plucky timber]

Are the fans plugged into an argb header on the motherboard?

[dull bloom]

I'm having some cooling/aesthetics issue. so i just did a complete overhaul/new build. i bought a lian li 011 evo xl and it came with 6x sp140 and a sp120. they dont have the fastest speed. was a perk of buying the case at such a good price. so im reusing my kraken z63 for my 9800x3d and put the sp140s on the rad. cooling that beast is hard with this aio. its thermally rated for the 9800x3d but i'm seeing temps of anywhere from 85-93c. i went abd bought the deepcool ak620 and it keeps that under any load under 65c. i just hate the giant brick in the middle of my pc. so does anyone have the 9800x3d under water (aio) that is keeping it at decent temps under load. i need ideas

[mossy lion]

Yes only that nothing

[weary galleon]

Thermalright 360mm aio should handle a 7800x3d fine

They have a lot of different models depending on your asthetic tastes

[plucky timber]

NZXT AIOs are also notably mediocre for their price

the ak620 is an ok cooler but there are way better air coolers

there are several options available to you

you could get a better air cooler or a better aio

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb

This would do fine

oh wait I read that wrong

you want an AIO

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7Phv6h/thermalright-frozen-prism-argb-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-black-argb

[raven pebble]

I got a thermalright warframe aio on my 9800x3d

[dull bloom]

whats your thermals under load?

[raven pebble]

Hold for 1 sec and I'll run occt

[raven pebble]

so running occt for 10 min, 1.11v, pulling 144w, @100% usage at 4700mhz is giving me max about 83. floats between 81-83

one sec and ill send a pic of what the MB tells me the sp and cooler score are

[tawny violet]

I wonder if a PS120 SE would be anywhere close to that

[raven pebble]

only thing that sucks about warframe is the absolute cheek software they used for the led screen lol

for price im not complaining, i also dont have the stock fans on there, i put on ones with lower rpm's to match my case fans as well

under ram and cpu test for 10 min occt is showing 65.2 on cpu at 1.2v, 107W, 100% usage at 5146 mhz.

[merry turtle]

I've been having problems with my laptop lately, it seems to disconnect from internet frequently at random times. This is the overview of what's in it and everything. I've tried doing a hardware check, checking my drivers, it happens at home and with other internet wifi sources, I've tried getting a USB wifi adapter as well but no luck. I'm stumped as to what it is unless something is wrong with it internally. Anyone have any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated

[snow dragon]

Probably

[plucky timber]

yeah that's the thing about aios

they're kinda mid in value

a $40 PS120 can cool most cpus

assuming that the case airflow isn't dogcrap

[tawny violet]

what would be the difference in temps?

PS120 wouldn't hit 95 on it right?

[plucky timber]

depends

on other conditions

[frigid jackal]

yh

installed both realtek + intel

turns out the right wifi drivers arent even on the website for the mobo

had to use gigabyte control center and it installed it

https://tenor.com/rbmfd590vsb.gif

lame ahhh website

[covert arch]

ey everyone, iive decided i want to build a pc since im tired of laptops

could someone dm me a top teir gaming pc with a budget of 1.25k? thank you!

[languid nimbus]

Are you ca? US? With current prices you’re not going to get “top tier” anything unfortunately but a list can be tossed together with the best you can currently get

[covert arch]

US, sadly
i was asking top tier as in with my budget

[languid nimbus]

Gotcha, is that price including peripherals? Do you need WiFi?

[covert arch]

i have wifi @languid nimbus

AT&T

[covert arch]

and no, i have a keyboard, mouse, and moniter

[languid nimbus]

Meant are you going to be running Ethernet to your pc or going over WiFi, sorry

[covert arch]

I'm in a house hold of 6, sadly I don't have the ability for ethernet

[languid nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jmFmJn

^ @obsidian wigeon what do you think about this build? (double-checking)

[obsidian wigeon]

looks good

mobo could be cheaper tho

unless that's as good as it gets rn

i haven't been lookin at prices much

[languid nimbus]

Yeah I think that’s about as cheap as they get with WiFi & without being micro

[obsidian wigeon]

me personally i don't mind matx

cuz some boards can take 3 m.2 drives

[snow dragon]

Asrock my beloved

[covert arch]

So this is the pc that's good for me?

[languid nimbus]

I’d say so, yeah

[covert arch]

Okay!
Tume to start saving up 😭 💀

And thanks for finding it for me!

[merry turtle]

This is the overview of what's in my laptop, I've been having problems with it disconnecting from the internet frequently at random times. It happens with any internet wifi source, I've checked the drivers, done a hardware scan, and got a USB wifi adapter but it still happens. Anyone have any ideas what I could try to fix it, my guess is it might be bad parts internally or something but I really don't know. Any help would be appreciated.

[quiet cedar]

The wifi on it most likely is crap mediatek stuff and usb wifi adapters also aren't usually good unless you get the really nice ones

[stoic island]

What specific model do you have? Doesn't list the actual wifi chip on that

[merry turtle]

@stoic island

I'm not entirely sure as this is about all that it gives me

[stoic island]

That's one of the models where it can have one of 3 or more possible wifi chips, you'll need to make sure you're getting the correct wifi driver, could be an Intel chip, could be a mediatek chip, could be a realtek chip

[runic cedar]

Can I unscrew this?

begging people to buy a pc for u

Bro no1 will buy it for u and anywhere u keep asking u will get banned from those servers

[sullen spoke]

no ebegging

[covert arch]

Ok

[merry turtle]

@stoic island I wasn't able to check until just recently because I was at work sorry. It's Realtek chip and driver and it still disconnects

[stoic island]

would recommend trying to uninstall and reinstall those drivers, realtek drivers, although mainly their audio drivers, are notoriously unreliable

[merry turtle]

Uninstall the and reinstall the realtek drivers?

Can do

@stoic island Might be a stupid question because I don't think I've had to reinstall the drivers for a long time if at all, where would I be able to reinstall the realtek drivers

[stoic island]

Will need to double check which exact model you have, easiest way is to just use HP's tool on their website and go from there
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/laptops

if not, check the bottom of your laptop for the label with model and serial number, and then type that into that site and download from there

[merry turtle]

@stoic island I used the link, and downloaded the driver it told me to. I then un-installed the driver I had and tried installing the new one and it didn't work, now my laptop can't connect to the internet at all.

[stoic island]

What exactly does it say when you install the new driver?

[merry turtle]

I don't think it was the proper one, I went and downloaded a new one onto a USB and then downloaded it from the usb onto the laptop and it seems to be working now

thank you for the help, if it continues to not work I might just look at getting a new one or see if there are any other solutions

[stoic island]

bit weird but always possible

wouldn't recommend usb wifi adapters in general, would probably look into seeing if you could get it warrantied and fixed for free if problems persist

[merry turtle]

I think I bought it off of Newegg's website like last year or the year before, so its well past the time I would have been able to get it sent back or anything

I appreciate the help and time you've given very much

[sacred holly]

Ello, I think it’d be best to build my own PC, and I know nothing about PCs, I am stuck on console currently, I would hope to make a high performing cheap PC, somewhere near $700-$900, unless there are amazing prebuilts that I have not yet discovered, I maybe be asleep if you message me but if someone could please help me, I’d be grateful, thanks.

[old sedge]

whats a good price for a rtx 3060 12gb?

[crimson zinc]

$250-270
But I’d suggest something else

[old sedge]

like what?

anything good for 3d work?

[plucky timber]

3060ti

I really wouldn't pay $270 for a non ti

[round briar]

Thinking of getting an ASUS ROG Strix 27" 1440p XG27ACS, for use with a 7900xt. Anyone that has it or knows it, know if it is a good monitor?

[quiet cedar]

It is decent

[zenith cargo]

do oled displays gets dimmer as time goes by?

had mine for about 5 months now and my monitor seems dimmer than it used to be

I remember getting flashbanged at night when loading white pages

I use the pixel cleaning process daily to reduce burn in as well

lately i’ve just noticed it being dimmer

[zenith cargo]

get an msi

asus is horrible

[round briar]

got any good 1440p ones under or around 300$?

I have two 1080p MSI monitor rn, and I love them ngl

[weary galleon]

Yes, they get dimmer over time. The anti image retention is basically making sure that all the pixels wear out at the same rate. 5 months seems unusually fast though

[zenith cargo]

yea I know it would eventually get less bright but it's only been 5 months

I've also disabled every screen dimming feature but its still dim

[barren flint]

Hey guys is it necessary to place thermal paste on the cpu cooler?

[fickle bolt]

no, just cpu IHS

[balmy hornet]

Looking to upgrade CPU + Mobo + Ram, looking at AM5, requirements: Optical S/Pdif out, Prefer: 10Gbe Lan port(s), looking at the Gigabyte B850 AI Top currently. Thoughts?

[plucky timber]

In a sec

[stoic island]

If you need 10gbe, that's about as cheap as you'll get for the mobo, if you're fine with 5gbe, b850-p will do for $100 cheaper mobo wise, but what is your goal for the CPU and ram?

[plucky timber]

I'd probably just get a 10gbe nic off ebay

What is the budget?

[balmy hornet]

Mostly gaming. Looking at a 32GB kit of ddr5-6000. My old CPU and ram will be used in a Minecraft server. Will probably throw one of my spare 10Gbe nics in there (they're old 8x slot cards that need a full 16x slot)

[stoic island]

there's some pretty cheap 2x16 6000c30 kits rn

[balmy hornet]

I say mostly gaming as there'd be some productivity work occasionally.

[balmy hornet]

I mean, even Trident Z isn't bad ATM. $110 for that kit iirc

[stoic island]

I mean it's $80 for 6000c30
https://www.newegg.com/patriot-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820225334

[balmy hornet]

Also for reference on the parts I'm keeping, 750w gold rated EVGA psu, MSI RTX 4080, and a 1TB nvme boot + 1TB Sata SSD + 2x4TB hdds, case i can't remember the model off the top of my head but I think it's a deep cool CH510

[stoic island]

need more specifics on the PSU

[balmy hornet]

This is going to sound normie of my but I'd actually like RBG to keep with the theme of my case.

[balmy hornet]

EVGA G3 750 iirc.

Might be a G2.

[stoic island]

just saying, but ram rgb is tiny when it comes to the aesthetics of a build, it's just such a small part when it comes to the whole PC lol

g2 and g3 are fine though

[balmy hornet]

Oh there's a reason. Lol, it's pretty noticable in my build.

[stoic island]

oh royals lmao

would just swap to non-rgb since you really don't want 4 sticks on ddr5 rn

[balmy hornet]

M thought about a 4 stick kit to keep with my theme but I should be fine with a dual kit.

[balmy hornet]

I like how you noticed they're royals and not standard lol (they were the cheapest 64GB kit at the time funnily enough)

[balmy hornet]

Is this cause everyone designs their traces the same where ram runs better in a 2 stick configuration?

[stoic island]

nah, it's about the CPU IMC currently just not being good enough

and mobos have been doing mostly daisy chain instead of t top for years now, very little difference on the mobo side

[stoic island]

royals are very sparkley lol

[balmy hornet]

Ah, makes sense. I know my current MB was one of the few Z390s that used the equal length traces for ram that runs better with 4 sticks but sacrifices some 2 stick potential.

[stoic island]

I feel that 2 sticks instead of 4 sticks with rgb is just going to make it obvious that it's missing something, might as well make it non-rgb so that it isn't as noticeable

[stoic island]

yea that's about when they stop doing t topology, very few are t top nowadays

but it matters extremely little

[balmy hornet]

Rip, might look for a kit with matching dummy sticks if I do go RGB lol

[stoic island]

I'd just do 2 non-rgb sticks, it'll look fine when it's not all sparkley and noticeable lol

[balmy hornet]

Fair, I'm also debating on getting a new cooler cause I need to check and probably clean out my AIO, also would need to get the mounting kit from EK.

[balmy hornet]

My only concern would be GPU cooler clearance running a 10Gbe PCIE card.

[stoic island]

well uh good luck, ekwb has been going through some problems

[balmy hornet]

Hence another reason I'm considering getting a new cooler. Might go noctua and just spend a bunch of money.

[weary galleon]

Thermalright is about as good and way cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

I second this

Thermalright is great

[plucky timber]

Thermalright is competing against themselves at this point

Unbelievably based

[covert vapor]

Thermalright is better than alright

[snow dragon]

When the 24 pin is fused to your motherboard

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/shady-sips-tea-oop-well-wow-gif-16405754050455669486

[snow dragon]

Usb 3.0 header

[fickle bolt]

⬛

[dusky hearth]

More like ◾

[snow dragon]

Fellas

Booted first try

But something I have not seen before happened. The power led started flashing quickly the went back to static and did it a few more times

Then it booted to windows instead of linux

Weird

But, I am in

Figure that out later

Looks like ram caused it

Ram is at 5200

All good just some bios tweaking

Main thing is that the computer is functional

[dusky hearth]

Oh hey post codes

This is actually how quite a few OEM PCs do it if they don't have a buzzer

[snow dragon]

Looks like memory training because it does it every time I boot

Only takes a couple seconds now

[manic cloak]

i'm guessing you didn't let the ram train itself 😭

[snow dragon]

It does when I change something

It flashes for longer

But on boots after I change something then it just takes a couple seconds

[manic cloak]

it's probably the equalivent to the white vga on boot

Unless that's not normal.. but my motherboard shines it's white vga for like 4 seconds before getting display

[tawny violet]

How often does this happen?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mZlebmDFouM

[snow dragon]

Beating 5080 I understand

4090 tho?

Idk

Power draw seems legit though

[tawny violet]

I guess it depends on the game too

[snow dragon]

[grave crescent]

Any atx mobo suggestions for r5 7500f, 32gb ram, 6700xt, and 1tb ssd

Needs WiFi preferable and will probably want storage upgrade ability in the future

Budget is not too high less than 240/250 probably

[snow dragon]

You dont need a board that expensive

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813162131

[grave crescent]

I have an everything else already my case is atx

[stoic island]

mATX installs fine in an ATX case, the screw holes are the same

[snow dragon]

Nah I get it

matx in atx can look a little goofy sometimes

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162192

[grave crescent]

I have a x670 board but the reman job was terrible and I’m pretty sure it’s causing issues and my return windows closed today so I went ahead and put in for return and I’m replacing with a new one

Between the b650 and b850 what is more stable

[sage thunder]

would adding a 1050 TI to my build make it gain fps, lose fps or stay the same? (im getting the 1050 ti for free from a friend) heres my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/92jgFZ

[slender furnace]

1050ti is probably buns

Are you not using a gpu bro

Well ill be darned 1050ti just BARELY outperforms my gtx 770

[sage thunder]

no

igpu

look at my build

[weary galleon]

I believe the 760M igpu is better than a 1050ti

[snow dragon]

You wont gain anything unless you use the card for something else while using the igpu or vice versa

Only one gpu will be used by a game

Games dont work this way anymore

Well, for igpu and dedicated card I dont think it ever worked this way

But definitely any type of multi gpu setup is dead nowadays

[snow dragon]

Depending on the game it can beat a 1060

Rare though

Mostly is as fast or a little slower

So I guess you could say it is in between a 1050ti and a 1060

Or best case scenario a 1060

In cyberpunk and rdr2 they are really close to each other

[snow dragon]

It does it when memory training

It also does it when I wake the computer from sleep

So is it initializing the ram speeds when waking up or something

Weird if true

[sage thunder]

so i shouldnt use a graphics card?

[snow dragon]

The 1050ti, no

Your igpu is good enough and can even beat it

[plucky timber]

That's what I said yesterday

[snow dragon]

I just think he doesnt believe it probably because igpu

But igpus have come a very very long way

[grave crescent]

Igpus impressed me 4yrs ago they for sure impress me now it’s kinda insane

[dusky hearth]

19 more days 😔

[dusky hearth]

igpus did not impress me 10 years ago 😔

[grave crescent]

Intel hd 550 baby

I ran Minecraft on a i5 3470 with intel hd 2500 and got a solid 100fps with default settings

I could even play modded with 50fps

[dusky hearth]

💀

why does it look like that

[analog hearth]

"why does it look like that"

[plucky timber]

I mean it's a modern igpu compared to a decade old gpu

[plucky timber]

ahh some things never change

I can run minecraft on my 5900HX igpu

with shaders at 35fps

[mossy lion]

I was wondering if someone could tell what is a good second fan use on the back of this air cooler

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Spectrum V3 71.93 CFM CPU Cooler

https://a.co/d/4qlmWU3

Preferably white

Rgb

Please

Sorry wrong one

It's this one

https://a.co/d/cpMcjvu

[weary galleon]

I'd reccomend a thermalright c12c. Though just know that an extra fan won't necessarily improve performance much.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WhRwrH/thermalright-tl-c12cw-s-6617-cfm-120-mm-fan-tl-c12cw-s

[mossy lion]

ok thank you

[lucid scarab]

I found a used PC that I’m interested in buying. I could use your expertise today. What are your thoughts/evaluation?
Specs:
*CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
*GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090
*Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi)
RAM: 32GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 (2x16GB)
*Cooling:
NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm AIO Liquid Cooler
6x Lian Li UNI SL120 RGB Fans (Black)
*Storage:
4TB HDD (WDC WD4005FZBX-00K5WB0)
1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO
1TB Samsung SSD 980 PRO
*Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1000W (Fully Modular)
*Custom RGB Cables:
LIAN LI STRIMER 24-Pin Addressable RGB Power Extension Cable
LIAN LI STRIMER PLUS Triple 8-Pin Addressable RGB VGA Power Cable
*Case:
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower
Say I negotiate below $1400 would that be a good deal?

[runic cedar]

I have an issue

I installed win10 on my brothers pc and used rufus for the usb to make it faster.... 2 hours past installing win 10 and Im still struggling to understand how to get his wifi to work

[runic cedar]

Make it faster by adapting my pc settings over to his (my pc does not have wifi capabilities

[slender furnace]

Did you install the drivers

Pretty much every single wifi adapter drivers are already built in windows 10

[runic cedar]

😭

I been sitting here for the past 4 hours

[runic cedar]

I figured that out myself too i was js confused on the msi website didnt know there was a drop down menu for the drivers section

I already got it a few mins ago but I cant believe I gotta sleepover at my brothers and his dads place because of sth so small

[snow dragon]

Brother

[runic cedar]

Mb

[snow dragon]

Yeah mods don’t like

[runic cedar]

I was gonna send that to my bros discord

Mb mods pls no ban

[snow dragon]

Goes hard

[snow dragon]

So the drivers worked?

[slender furnace]

Lmfao

[slender furnace]

If your motherboard has built in wifi unfortunately you will HAVE to go to the motherboard website for the drivers

Arleast from what i know

[stoic island]

CPU Mobo Ram are all a socket/slot behind, ~$200 for CPU, mobo would've been worth more before, ~$100 now, maybe more, ram is ~$50, aio only really worth ~$50, 3090 worth ~$700, storage together worth ~$150, PSU worth ~$100, cables don't add much value, case worth ~$50? Prob bit more value added from fans, $1400 should be fine, but it's mainly because of inflated GPU prices rn.

[lucid scarab]

Very helpful! Yeah for a future cpu upgrade, I would have to replace the older motherboard and ram as well. The gpu seems to have retained value - could maybe even resell it. Sounds like a reasonable price. Would reselling or building new be better?

[plucky timber]

Depends on how the market goes

Who knows at this point

The pc market pricing trends is usually semi-predictable

Now only god knows what the prices will be in 6 months time

Thanks Nvidia

[lucid scarab]

May meet the seller today if anyone else has thoughts!

[fallen sphinx]

Seems super solid, just make sure it works and that you don’t get kidnapped

[grave crescent]

The not getting kidnapped part is optional

[wary tundra]

would a corsair cx650m be enough for a 5800x and 5070?

[weary galleon]

It would be pretty tight I think

If you undervolted the gpu and cpu you could probably get away with it but I'd reccomend 750W to be more safe

[plucky timber]

If you have a RTX 5070 and a 5800X

there's no reason to cheap out on the psu

the more money you spend on parts

the more you have to lose

from the psu going boom boom

[weary galleon]

I'm assuming he already has the cpu and PSU with some other gpu and is considering an upgrade to a 5070

[plucky timber]

I'd still spend the money on the psu tbh

especially with how much gpus cost these days

[wary tundra]

its my friends computer. he already has the 650w psu but he initially was going to buy a 5060ti and I was just going to give him my spare 5600g but now he wants a 5070 and I was wanting to buy him a 5800x for his birthday.

[weary galleon]

Skip the 5800x

Either get a 5600, 5700x3d, or go am5

5600 and 5070 might be a bit cpu bound unless at 4k

[snow dragon]

Yeah 5700x3d would be the better option

Maybe 5060ti would be the better pick for the two

Nvm I think it can handle a 5070

If not x3d then 5060ti

[wary tundra]

only reason I say 5800x is because amazon has a 5800xt for $124 and I got a $50 gift card from work. would just do a 5600x but haven't found one on amazon at its normal price.

I just dont know if my 5600g would be good enough for a 5070 at 1440p

hes got a 3500x now

[weary galleon]

Oh yeah I see a 5800xt for $125

[earnest olive]

possibly strange request

anyone know of a white 240mm/280mm/360mm aio where the block has a magnetic top?

[stoic island]

Iirc ek's higher end aio had that

[cursive wharf]

Magnet is for some like custom clip on display I assume? Prolly just find some way to elegantly embed a magnet into a normal AIO would be my suggestion

[manic cloak]

messaged this person awhile back on facebook marketplace about their 7800x3d being stuffed into a 9800x3d box, should I buy it? I could probably haggle down to 250-275 as it's sitting at 300 atm

Possible buy 👻

[earnest olive]

any suggestions for a regular white aio then or is the cheap thermalright stuff fine

[snow dragon]

The thermalright ones seem to get the job done well