building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

At least we're not talking about meat

[vague oracle]

Gen alpha tech news lol

[mossy venture]

Lmao

[lethal hill]

yo im looking to build a gaming pc, also gonna to rendering/animation viewing, is the pinned guide still relevant

[mossy venture]

Whats your budget?

[plucky timber]

Budget? Specific applications/games?

[cyan ravine]

Nvidia pc incoming

[drifting pebble]

hey yall, just an FYI - yall can post your build on our website, use the link here: https://www.newegg.com/tools/custom-pc-builder/showcase/featured-builds

[plucky timber]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[drifting pebble]

build the best 1200 5080 build!

[lethal hill]

flexible, but i was thinking about 1 to 2 thousand, id run things like elden ring, ark and asa, and dsas

[snow dragon]

Not possible

[lethal hill]

cod

[drifting pebble]

thats the point

[violet nexus]

I’ve finished my clean install of windows, my last two questions, can I plug my old HDDS back in for extra storage without it messing my pc back up? And two, I need to activate my windows or at least my pc is asking too activate windows but I don’t have an activation key? Is there a way to bypass this since I clean installed my old windows?

[cyan ravine]

Perfect 5070 candidate

[plucky timber]

General chat activities

[cyan ravine]

Ngl

[cyan ravine]

Did you sign into windows settings before reinstalling

[mossy venture]

You open to a used gpu?

[cyan ravine]

What point are you making here

[drifting pebble]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hZBfkf

[snow dragon]

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cv8RHW

[plucky timber]

The point has an angle of 2 pi radians

[violet nexus]

I believe so, I logged back into my Microsoft account.

[cyan ravine]

Then logging into it again will reactivate the license

[mossy venture]

A used 3090 for the vram sounds like a good idea for you @lethal hill

[drifting pebble]

@lethal hill

[lethal hill]

my knowledge is very limited, are used gpus fine to use? if the source is trustworthy

[mossy venture]

Depends on the softwares you're doing and at what level

[cyan ravine]

Ofc

[mossy venture]

Yeah 100%

[drifting pebble]

yes but my list is great for your needs

[mossy venture]

Just need to make sure the seller isn't crappy

[plucky timber]

April 1st Activities going on here

[drifting pebble]

mid

[cyan ravine]

Brother are you ok 😂

[stoic island]

And buyer protection is good through whatever service you're using

[snow dragon]

[mossy venture]

If your workstation use isn't too heavy, a 5070 is more than fine for you

[drifting pebble]

yes

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/skander-larping-squidward-spongebob-gif-22508428

[cyan ravine]

You're disagreeing with yourself just checking

[drifting pebble]

how is it bad

[plucky timber]

This is a tech support channel

[drifting pebble]

this is a build chat channel

[plucky timber]

#general-chat would be the place for trolling

[snow dragon]

Brotha man just being difficult rn

[drifting pebble]

how am i trolling

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/trolling-troll-troll-face-apocalypse-gif-20830139

[drifting pebble]

i'm trolling for giving out a list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1NUfBB5SM

[snow dragon]

Well technically true but you would need that cpu if you are gonna get a 5090 or something

Not a 5070 which is slower than a 4070s

[plucky timber]

The problem is perf/$

[snow dragon]

So for that graphics card the x3d is not needed really

[snow dragon]

yea

[plucky timber]

And for his use cases

He might benefit from a better gpu as well

Not that it's likely

To have a better value card more powerful than a 5070 that can also do productivity

Depends on what he does tho

[drifting pebble]

oop

sorry

i forgot i was still in new egg

i saw a notification in dms

anyways

thanks for the helpful information

[lethal hill]

yw

[tawny violet]

No, that happens when the League Wars begin

[plucky timber]

Oh god

I love the 100k death stacks sieging down level 4 forts

[stoic island]

I love ottoblob coming in and making it one sided

[plucky timber]

💀 💀

[tawny violet]

Usually in my games they only really balance things out

Almost always hard carrying the Protestant side to a bloody stalemate

[stoic island]

I mean I usually see france + ottoblob just start swarming europe

[tawny violet]

For me France is usually on the Catholic side for some reason

Spaghetti code methinks

So it just ends up the French and the Turks beating each other's asses for like 25 years straight before everyone just agrees that this is stupid

[plucky timber]

France army morale:

[tawny violet]

Vs endless janissaries

[plucky timber]

I hate fighting France so much

I have to grind down their manpower every time

And fight defensively

[stoic island]

discipline maxxing is the way

higher morale just means you get to kill more before the battle ends smh

[tawny violet]

I mean you can just play quantity-defensive Russia and drown them in manpower

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KRCpNz what else can you even reduce in price for this computer

[dusky hearth]

Cpu

Wait

[obsidian wolf]

but but but.... best cpu

for (Gaming)

[dusky hearth]

Case maybe? Idk

[stoic island]

PSU can be a bit cheaper

[obsidian wolf]

Mmm, I think that one is the sweet spot of not going for a hotbox + aesthetic. is for a friend not for me

[stoic island]

CPU can be a lot cheaper

[obsidian wolf]

it's a bundle

699 is just mobo + ram

[stoic island]

7600x + mobo + ram is <400 lol

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah, best cpu for gaming though

like keeping what's there right now

you know like the genuine fact that you will not have to buy a cpu in a long long time

and let's say you play super competitive gaming like r6 champion

this is good right?

GPU market is the only thing killing this work honestly.

[stoic island]

there's not much you can get the price down keeping what's there lol

[weary galleon]

Not sure if $700 is much of a deal for 9800x3d + mobo + ram

[stoic island]

swap the PSU and save $30 and that's about it

[obsidian wolf]

just did

swap it out for the toughpower gf1 2024

that is still is b tier?

[weary galleon]

Cpu cooler can be cheaper

[stoic island]

nah gf1 2024 is pretty bad

core reactor ii should be well priced still

[weary galleon]

$30-35 dual tower thermalright

[stoic island]

my perspective will always be that we are only 1 innovation away from making everything older obsolete so I wouldn't bet on anything lasting a long long time

9800x3d is cool but I don't feel comfortable spending that much when you want to save money lol

[weary galleon]

Future proofing (tech) is meh

[obsidian wolf]

yeah that's true for everything.

[obsidian wolf]

I got you, his budget sits right on 2000

I think i can reduce 50$ more

for mobo

[tawny violet]

I mean

How much is the list?

[obsidian wolf]

then what's left is keyboard, mouse and monitor

[stoic island]

I thought it's a bundle you can't change lmao

def save money on the mobo if you can

[tawny violet]

@stoic island how much is his list rn?

[stoic island]

the microcenter 9800x3d bundle was 650 iirc

$1659

[tawny violet]

I mean total lol

Ah

[stoic island]

keyboard monitor mouse still fits

[tawny violet]

Well
That's about how much a PC of that caliber goes for

[stoic island]

1440p144+ IPS is under $200 now

you just can't get oled into the budget

[tawny violet]

It's close to optimized without using unconventional means

[obsidian wolf]

this will be price after tax

for the pc alone.

[stoic island]

oh and if they wanted to sweat 1080p240+ is under $200 too

still should fit in $2000 budget

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P8mfkf

imma ask him if he's going for the higher refresh rate down the line

[stoic island]

would recommend not doing logitech keyboard and swapping out the mouse

[weary galleon]

1440p170hz miniled too. tho for 2k budget I'd personally try to fit in an oled

[stoic island]

if their main goal is to sweat on siege, 1080p240+ is gonna serve them better than 1440p180

[weary galleon]

lowkey tho getting closer to a 1440p screen for those pixel peeks can be nice

[obsidian wolf]

I mean true but when I did similar price built i did go for the 1440p, although I sweat eu4 not r6

[stoic island]

pixel density is cool and all but stretched res equalizes that advantage

[weary galleon]

lowers your effective FOV though.

[obsidian wolf]

not like graphics matter in eu4

[stoic island]

man eu4 fps doesn't really scale well with anything lol

old clausewitz code things

[stoic island]

yea, but stretched res helps a lot with pixel peeks

[tawny violet]

How about 1440p360?

[obsidian wolf]

btw which mouse + keyboard combo you suggest, i personally rock the red dragon k530 with rog strix impact III

[tawny violet]

Philips Evnia is like 570 dollars in the US and it has THE lowest input latency of any such monitors iirc

[stoic island]

not gonna fit in budget lol

we're looking at maybe $300 with bad keeb and mouse

Getting a keychron keyboard off woot is prob best value for now, not too sure about cheaper custom keyboards rn

keychron mice are also pretty funny but mouse choice is gonna depend on grip

[obsidian wolf]

hmm he's a full life console player

should just give him the slowest mouse there is

[stoic island]

uh console champ not pc champ? uhhh may not need to be as sweaty

[obsidian wolf]

remember is crossplay now

I brought up the same

but then he comeback

with that

[stoic island]

only optional as console

[obsidian wolf]

did not know that, i personally dont sweat r6 since 2021

so i wouldn't know

[stoic island]

I mean same but I play a bit for fun here and there

at best I'm just a mid plat player, did some scrims back in the day

[obsidian wolf]

same

so

mmm

just leave that mouse in there

is good

it serve me well for like 3 years

did not break

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F24t4p

after tax

[snow dragon]

I miss siege

[obsidian wolf]

I mean we can afford another $36

well technically speaking, 35.21

[obsidian wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/those-were-the-days-curtis-payne-house-of-payne-good-times-good-memories-gif-22163985

[stoic island]

idk why but people nowadays don't use vc in siege

just not as funny anymore

no more fun screaming and fun strats

[snow dragon]

When I was playing here and there last year there was the one guy with the loud ass mic

Always that one dude on the team with the clipping mic bruh

Turn down yo gain big dog

[stoic island]

lol

[snow dragon]

Take me back like 4 years or something

If not more

Like 6 maybe

[stoic island]

honestly I feel like peak is right after spam leaning got changed

[obsidian wolf]

take me back to 2018-2019

[snow dragon]

Fr

I still remember when finka was new

Man

[obsidian wolf]

meh, only thing after that has been elden ring and REDM

[snow dragon]

It just aint the same no more

[stoic island]

day 1 lion lol

[snow dragon]

Completely diff game

[snow dragon]

Hahaha the spam

[stoic island]

although at the time we didn't even think it was that overpowered lol

[obsidian wolf]

jeez

[stoic island]

remember thinking it was equivalent to intero

[obsidian wolf]

if everything is overpowered nothing is powerful enough

give me old jager with ACOG - although they remove that before Lion i believe

Cant even remember anymore

[stoic island]

jager acog was before spam leaning got removed iirc

really early removal

jager and mp7

[obsidian wolf]

remember when they even remove acog from ash a couple years ago

I never cried about it as an IQ main

[stoic island]

ash acog removal feels new lmao

[obsidian wolf]

we're old

[stoic island]

I was a zof main, don't even remember when they nerfed the gun

also maestro acog

[obsidian wolf]

[stoic island]

the time when everyone wanted to be beaulo

[obsidian wolf]

lmaoooooooooo

I always wanted to be shaiiko more so than beaulo

[stoic island]

when even was shaiiko

he feels new

[obsidian wolf]

nah

he old old old

[stoic island]

I mean as a cc

iirc he's old pro league

opposite of beaulo

actually was shaiiko pro league before becoming a content creator

[obsidian wolf]

I just knew of him due to the investigations they did where they said he was cheating

[stoic island]

don't really remember that lol

[obsidian wolf]

and i saw the clips of it and I was lowkey damn

[obsidian wolf]

yep

[stoic island]

I just remember beaulo peeks

[stoic island]

yea guess he was opposite of beaulo

[obsidian wolf]

don't want to link a youtube

without having

[stoic island]

pro league -> CC instead of CC -> pro league

[obsidian wolf]

just watch and ill delete link

right after

After that I always hated pengu

[stoic island]

I didn't pay attention to pro league for the longest time

[obsidian wolf]

I used too, at one point i aspired to it

but meh life ,,, truck, college, money

[stoic island]

oh yea I remember now

I use 4 as primary gadget too lmao

I just thought it was a wacky ban but didn't think much of it

[obsidian wolf]

it was because of cry baby master himself pengu

when you're such a big figure and then you go your way to attack to the point

that you get someone ban

just because you're getting outskilled

[stoic island]

I mean I think having them check moss is fair, the problem was just that they didn't really go through with double checking it

moss catches a lot wallhack users in scrims for example

like if you told me it's registering a key multiple times every 100ms that just sounds like maxing out keyboard polling rate to me

or something of that nature with how it's being registered

iirc moss only captures at a slower rate

[obsidian wolf]

I understand but still the massive push went from a much bigger creator at the time, which understandably his words will be taken above and higher than any other at x point like pengu was, and obviously we walk into that ground "you never know" why they didn't recheck it

but you can only assume it was due to the clear bandwagon that pengu had behind him

at the time

but again big assumption.

easier in my head to just say, I blame pengu.

[stoic island]

I didn't care about either player at the time so I didn't have much of an opinion then or now

[obsidian wolf]

yeh I get u.

[dusky hearth]

damn cheap sales tax

[obsidian wolf]

I find that expensive 😭

There’s some states in the US where there’s none

[dusky hearth]

would be like around $250 here

also oh the us that makes sense lmao

[manic cloak]

I don't know if anyone has a solution for this? I tried increasing my voltage to 1.3v and it was still struggling

[snow dragon]

Wasn’t your board blasting 1.55 or something

I don’t remember exactly

[manic cloak]

Yes it was

1.53v

200w

on stock settings

[snow dragon]

Idk maybe your chip degraded

[snow dragon]

So brutal

[manic cloak]

ikr, but I doubt it's THAT degraded

[snow dragon]

Oh its coming back now

You said dec 2022 i remember that

Nah its def rotting away

[cyan ravine]

New microcode took a chunk of performance out of stock

It was never intended to run that hard to begin with so...

[manic cloak]

I agree on that but games like helldivers and minecraft were starting to be choppy after undervolting

[cyan ravine]

If you can scale up on the new microcode with more voltage then keep going

Unstable is unstable

[snow dragon]

I think it was also the board overriding intel limits

That was the big thing everyone was doing back then

[cyan ravine]

Cos intel encouraged it

Intel literally blamed everyone else

Then owned up to the ia vr rail and vmax

[manic cloak]

Should I just get it RMA'd then resell it for AMD 🧍‍♂️

[cyan ravine]

Since like z270 intel has actively encouraged yeeted limits

[cyan ravine]

Go back to stock on the new microcode and work up from there not down

[manic cloak]

work up as in increase voltage?

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

Here's the thing

[snow dragon]

Plus new microcode wont improve anything in the sense that it runs better. What I mean is like you can update, but will still have degradation issues because it already happened. Can’t fix it

[cyan ravine]

Using static voltages will cap stable frequencies lower

[snow dragon]

Yeah because its not stable

[manic cloak]

ah

[cyan ravine]

Using offsets however will increase stable frequencies at higher AND lower

[manic cloak]

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-z690-plus-wifi-d4/helpdesk_bios?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-Z690-PLUS-WIFI-D4

[cyan ravine]

You edit the whole voltage table instead of a straight cap

[manic cloak]

I'm going to double check but I think i'm on October

[cyan ravine]

October 24 is 12b

[snow dragon]

Damn I thought they just didn’t care

[manic cloak]

what about jan?

[snow dragon]

Not that they wanted this

[cyan ravine]

You can read the post I made in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

There's a lot there

It's pinned

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Jan 25 is 12b

Or newer

[snow dragon]

Oh ok my ass was really scrolling up for it

Yeah little goofy rn

I spent hours thinking and troubleshooting today

Like literally all day

Damn linux

Then went to the gym and came back and did more fixing

[manic cloak]

set manual core voltages to 1.30V manual/static, set P core, e core and ring bus ratio to offset by negative 1GHz or negative 10x ratio, set cpu temperature limit to 75C, and CPU power limit to: i5: 115W

should I try this out before new bios?

[cyan ravine]

You could

1.3 manual on 12b is cancer btw

Unless you scale only downwards it's gonna feel unstable af

Offset on the other hand will give you the full voltage range which is safer than before and also needed for higher freq

Over like

5.3ghz you will want north of 1.3v minimum

For CS you want cpu mins high af

So you really want full voltage range not static

[snow dragon]

Try 1.35 maybe

[cyan ravine]

1.35 not much better

Like I said offset is the better uv in 12b

[snow dragon]

Is it over

Oh I didn’t see static

Yeah its bedtime bruh

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[manic cloak]

indeed it's bedtime 😔

[raven pebble]

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III vs thermalright warframe aio?

[tawny violet]

Depends on price and case

If the LF3 fits the case you have and it's the same price I'd take it

But if the Warframe is at all cheaper, easy buy

[cyan ravine]

Warframe at the same price or less

Warframe doesn't have mobo fitment issues and performs the same or better with an lcd

Lcd does add resale

[raven pebble]

Warframe is half the price lol

[tawny violet]

Wish it was available here I'd get it in a heartbeat lol

[tawny violet]

Oh then easy Warframe 1000%

[manic cloak]

@cyan ravine I might be cooked

I had 1 tab open.

This was unlockburritoday

[cyan ravine]

Dude you're being uploaded to china

[raven pebble]

Artic white 154, thermal warframe 81.09

[manic cloak]

I tried getting the chipotle bogo thing, edge, chrome worked fine

Opera?

[raven pebble]

Now I guess is the case I need the most help w. I'd prefer an all white one, that can fit the fat 5090 😅

[manic cloak]

Nearly crashed

[cyan ravine]

Ask us again in 3 months when 5090s are a normal price again

[raven pebble]

😭😭😭

[cyan ravine]

Just for context here a $620 9070 xt is half a 5090 worth $3400

Not even remotely worth getting a 90 card rn

[raven pebble]

Valid

https://a.co/d/cayJFWA I'm liking this case, would the aio fit in this?

[cyan ravine]

C5 is good

[raven pebble]

Sweet then i think I'm just gonna order that case and the aio and call it a day lol

[cyan ravine]

Sounds like a better plan

They have a wood variety as well if that interests you

[tawny violet]

@cyan ravine how about the Thermalright Core Vision 360 Black - LCD

[cyan ravine]

How much

Pls usd

[raven pebble]

I think I'm gonna stop by mc before I order it tho and make sure the gpu will fit before I order

[tawny violet]

Uh

[cyan ravine]

If it fits a 360mm aio up top then it'll fit 380mm gpus

Which covers all but like 2 gpus in existence

[tawny violet]

112

[cyan ravine]

How much is the arctic over there

Or non vision

[raven pebble]

I'm more worried about width than length

[tawny violet]

About the same as LF3, though "used" (read: unopened in box, just from a third party)

[cyan ravine]

Vertical mount solves all

[cyan ravine]

Core vision better

[raven pebble]

Do they have pcie 5.0 extensions? I know on the hytes they're still in pcie 4.0...

[cyan ravine]

Amazing, literally 5 minutes ago in gen chat:

[tawny violet]

Damn I wish Thermalright actually had a distribution network here

[cyan ravine]

Don't get 5.0 unless you want issues

Really autocorrect???

[raven pebble]

Rip i bought a 5.0 motherboard 😭

[cyan ravine]

Doesn't matter just use 4.0

You won't notice literally less than 1% difference

[tawny violet]

Wait so 5.0 risers bad now?

[cyan ravine]

https://youtu.be/L1NPFFRTzLo

[cyan ravine]

5.0 period

[manic cloak]

so uh felix what should I do in this situation if opera can't run a promotion page of chipotle but other apps can? 😭

[cyan ravine]

Abandon L browser

Return to monke

[raven pebble]

Yeah I saw

[manic cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/natural-devolution-simpsons-walking-crawling-gif-17916427

[tawny violet]

Damn, it sucks that new tech is just awful lately

[cyan ravine]

Like 0.7% lol

And known to cause issues when set to 5.0

Highly suggest you do not

[cyan ravine]

Also I hope you didn't buy a Y70

Awful price case

It's like 700 usd for that case with fans, you'll break my heart (idrc tbh)

💔

[raven pebble]

No lmao

[cyan ravine]

Ye just stick to 4.0

[raven pebble]

This is why i wanted the antec cause of price and pre installed fans

[cyan ravine]

Antec OP

Also wood version exists

[tawny violet]

To be fair, SSUPD also has a 5.0 riser, is that also bad now?

[cyan ravine]

Antec wood is based

[raven pebble]

My mb is white so were going mostly white now

[tawny violet]

At least I think they have one

Lemme check the Meshroom S v2 rq

[cyan ravine]

They might do

Just wouldn't use 5.0 on it

4.0 better

[tawny violet]

Oh ye they do

With the V2

[green glen]

any good mb other than godlike?

for amd

[tawny violet]

Lots

AM5 in general is very feature rich even at the lower end

[green glen]

kinda prefer high end

[tawny violet]

B650 has basically the same features as Z790

[cyan ravine]

Godlike is like the worst choice lmfao

[green glen]

and im building with 5090fe and 9950x3d

[tawny violet]

What's your budget for it?

Oh

So budget is Yes

Asus has ultra-expensive ones

[green glen]

just by watching videos out there not my personal opinion

[green glen]

how can you tell if the mb split pcie channels

[tawny violet]

????

[cyan ravine]

The tldr a godlike is basically an x670 gaming x v2 for 5x the price

[tawny violet]

Wait it's THAT bad?

[cyan ravine]

What is the pc being used for

[cyan ravine]

The gaming x is THAT good

[tawny violet]

Oh

Alright that's sweet

[green glen]

just gaming

[tawny violet]

I might give MSI a chance with that then

[cyan ravine]

Ok you don't need 9950x3d

Extra cores won't do anything at all

[tawny violet]

You want the 9800X3D

[green glen]

because my current mb split my pcie from x16 to x8 x8

[tawny violet]

Marginally better FPS from that

[cyan ravine]

You also don't need this either for just gaming

9800x3d will last equally as long with half as many cores

[green glen]

i do have 9800x3d in my current pc

[cyan ravine]

Equally as fast

Eh then just use that

[tawny violet]

There's a lot of things you seem to worry about that's pointless to worry about

[green glen]

will be sold for 5100

[tawny violet]

Then get another one lol

It's just that good

[green glen]

i see

so still recommend 9800x3d

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

[tawny violet]

100%

[cyan ravine]

9800x3d plus a nice b650/b850

B650m pro rs stonks

More than enough for just gaming

[tawny violet]

I stan ASRock

They make good stuff with AM5

[cyan ravine]

Or msi b650m pro-a if you're worried about asrock board issues

[green glen]

i will check that out

[tawny violet]

And for the love of God don't do ITX
so much more headache

[cyan ravine]

They're lightweight board but more than built enough, you can use the size for a smaller form factor

[green glen]

also i was thinking build one of those mini itx one

[cyan ravine]

E.g dan a3

Yes that's where I'm going with this

Dan a3 fits most 5090

But you need to pick the right psu

Vetroo gv1000 for 120 for example is good

Lian li edge 1000 gold is another

[tawny violet]

Sharkoon Rebel P20 1000w?

Depending on price

[cyan ravine]

Yeah that works

[tawny violet]

Whichever is cheapest of those three really

[cyan ravine]

The main criteria is it's 140mm or shorter

Beyond that if it's good it works

[tawny violet]

So true SFX

[green glen]

lmao let me start a list

[tawny violet]

Not SFX-L

[cyan ravine]

No

140 is atx

[tawny violet]

Wait

I thought SFX-L is the 140mm?

Cuz it has a 120mm fan instead of a 92mm

[cyan ravine]

Edge gold is also compatible with dan a3 despite being longer but may interfere with the gpu if you don't plan correctly

[tawny violet]

Oh A3

[cyan ravine]

130

[tawny violet]

Ye that can take ATX

Shorty ATX is probably cheaper than SFX or SFX-L anyway

[raven pebble]

Im using a 1200w nzxt atx 3.1 psu for my current 5090 build

[mossy venture]

I'm using a 230w psu for my pentium/5090 build

[green glen]

how is this mb
MSI MPG B650I EDGE

[mossy venture]

At $250 pretty good

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bYytt6/gigabyte-b650i-aorus-ultra-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-b650i-aorus-ultra

[green glen]

is 990 pro still a go to?

[vague oracle]

How is the 9950x3d overall?

[tawny violet]

Klevv C910

[vague oracle]

The AM5 bug is starting to bite again

[tawny violet]

9800X3D man

Don't need no fancy crap

Just 9800X3D

[green glen]

how is Crucial T500

[cyan ravine]

Parking was fixed so it's just a slightly better 9800x3d at best

[cyan ravine]

Klevv c910 meta

[green glen]

is this for a budget build or just in genral

[raven pebble]

Is 48gb of ram good? Why is go to between 32 or 64

[tawny violet]

It's like top performer for cheap

[tawny violet]

Do you need 64?
If not, get 32 for cheaper ngl

Like if you know you need more, might as well get more

48 is niche cuz it still costs more

[raven pebble]

I don't think so highest I've seen while gaming is hogwarts @22gb and that's with discord up

[manic cloak]

What's the performance of a 5070ti anyways?

[raven pebble]

The sticks I'm eyeing there is like a $10 difference before tax

[tawny violet]

Why spend more?

It's not gonna make your FPS go up lol

[raven pebble]

I know but if I'll ever need it I'll have the extra i guess

[tawny violet]

I'd love 48 just for the flex (and more chrome tabs)

But 32 is the meta

[manic cloak]

I don't think i've ever exceeded 32gb

[raven pebble]

Thats why I went w 32, but they haven't shipped yet, and when I was looking on newegg vs amazon they have the same sticks, $10 more for 48 so like what's 10 bucks at that point

[vague oracle]

What about for core intensive loads?

[tawny violet]

I'd just keep the 32

Can always upgrade later

[tawny violet]

It's like a 9950X but slightly worse iirc

[cyan ravine]

In general cos gaming PC's barely benefit at all from spending more on that same ssd

It's just a good gen 4

Not insanely expensive, provides 98% of all the speed benefits for even the most intensive games

It would be a bit of a different story if you were building a rendering pc that ran 24/7 for work or a server

Since it's neither of those things you won't benefit from faster, not even remotely in the way you'd think you would

Being "Up to X MB/s" doesn't mean it's twice as fast going gen 5, it doesn't work like that

[fallen sphinx]

Essentially equal to a 9070xt, beats it some places, gets beaten other places

[jagged ember]

Until you undervolt the 9070xt

Then it's a 5080 lmao

[fallen sphinx]

Stock 5080, but yes 9070xt has major uplift from uv and oc

[wide sparrow]

lmao

[turbid charm]

is there a place on here to get help upgrading my 10yr old pc?

[plucky timber]

Yeah this channel

[wide sparrow]

ooh. exciting

[tall shard]

3070 or 7600

[mossy venture]

3070 easily

6700xt or 2080 ti if either is an option

7600 is close to a 2080, 3070=2080 ti with less vram

[snow dragon]

I dont trust the klevv cras

People get the drive and it goes read only in under a year

Not worth saving $10

[snow dragon]

Depending on the drive not even $10

[weary galleon]

Is this a known issue or just a couple people you've heard?

[cyan ravine]

I could only find one post about this and a video that was made by ai

And tons of other reviews speaking positively in the reflection lol

[shrewd gale]

Hey, need help, so i have install windows on my new pc, but it asking me for a activatiin code.

Where the code basically?

[stoic island]

if you have bought directly from microsoft, it'd be inside the package they gave you, if you are trying to use your microsoft acc to activate windows, there should be a input code later option somewhere, log into your microsoft account afterwards to activate. If you don't want to activate windows, just find the input code later option and don't put anything in.

[shrewd gale]

Alr

[left fox]

Im reading back to see, so its just the new video cards over priced right now

4090 5090

[potent portal]

Those are the most hideously priced ones but they're all inflated to some degree

[wanton jacinth]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360568C?Item=N82E16883360568C

I was looking at this pc and was wondering If its worth getting. If I get it can I just switch the GPU to a stronger one like a 5070 in the future? or would I need to get a new powersupply/motherboard for that.

Reasoning for buying a prebuilt is because everytime I build pcs I just get heaps of problems in the future lol.

[mossy venture]

probably can just swap the gpu yeah

[wanton jacinth]

I currently have a ryzen 5 3600, and a 2060 super graphics card. is it worth buying the prebuilt?

[mossy venture]

it's ok value wise

4060 for $900 is meh

[wanton jacinth]

I was trying to find a prebuilt around 1k for a 4070 ti but its hard

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mossy venture]

yeah prebuilts in that range will likely have a 4060 sadly

[fallen sphinx]

Honestly make one yourself, keep current gpu then just upgrade from your 2060

The hardest part was (for me) the list part of the pc, and there’s countless ppl that can help you with that

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PpqRMC

[fallen sphinx]

.

[mossy venture]

^^

7500f off aliexpress cuts about $80 off too

[fallen sphinx]

That too

[fallen sphinx]

Wait what

Aren’t they like 115

[mossy venture]

Yeah

Oh

I didn't see you set it at $140

[wide drum]

Welp, something is wrong with the new build and I can't figure out what it is. Time spy goes through the benchmark then about 10 seconds into the CPU portion of the test it quits the benchmark and doesn't complete.

[mossy venture]

check cpu temps

[wide drum]

They spike to like 65-70 as soon as the benchmark starts

[potent portal]

Is expo enabled

If so switch it to xmp

If it's on xmp, try with it off

Some memory kits are "stable enough" to pass QC but throw some real world variables at it and it's not quite there

Oh and BIOS updates often help stability

[wide drum]

I've got the latest bios

I knew I should've just gotten the standard 6000 instead of 6400

[potent portal]

You can usually add some voltage here and there and it works if it is a stability problem, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there

[wide drum]

Expo disabled no change, still ends timespy at the same spot

[mossy venture]

try uninstall/reinstall

maybe corrupted download

[potent portal]

I think steam verify game cache would do the same

[mossy venture]

good point

[wide drum]

Surely it's not that simple but sure I'll try

[mossy venture]

probably not but it's worth ruling out

[wide drum]

Running now after verifying, default ram settings forces my 6400 to 4800

[potent portal]

That's fine for test purposes

[wide drum]

No change, it's cooked

The CPU spikes in temps so fast it's crazy

[potent portal]

As long as it's below 95 then temp isn't the issue

Does it crash or misbehave in any other test?

OCCT CPU tests and Prime95 are good for that

[wide drum]

I just ran prime95 for about 10 minutes using the blend test and it said passed for all of them before I rebooted for something. It hit 90c but never went higher. My virtual and physical memory were at 98%

[potent portal]

Yeah that's 95C peak

What CPU and cooler was it again?

[wide drum]

9800x3d and thermal right infinity

[potent portal]

The AIO one?

If so your temps should definitely be lower

Even with p95

[wide drum]

Yep aio

[potent portal]

Next thing I would do is check cables for the cooler and remount the cooler

Make sure to tighten a little at a time, doing a pattern of opposite corners, so it mounts evenly

And make sure if it's separate, the pump is on a pump header if available

Fans on CPU fan header

[wide drum]

There are only two screws, the pump pwm is on pump and the three rad fans are on the cpu header

[potent portal]

It'll be the same thing then, just no corners. One at a time, a little at a time

[wide drum]

almost averaged 120fps in cyberpunk with full ray tracing, no path tracing, no frame gen

going to try a dx11 test next, then try a memory specific test, then try rolling back the chipset driver as the MSI motherboard page suggests using an older version, but that may just be bad wording on their part

[wide drum]

None of it worked, gonna try ordering a non 48gb kit and return this klevv and start over

What a disaster

[serene onyx]

Guys my gfs Gpu kept crashing whenever she would try to play games

She has a 1650 Super

I finally found the issue

Heat

It got so hot

The games would crash

And on GeForce experience the max temp was set to 83

After I repasted the Gpu it now plays games at 80c

I still turned up the max temp to 87

Cause 83 idk

[manic cloak]

Is there any other IEM recommendations other than these?

https://www.amazon.com/Linsoul-TANGZU-Waner-S-G-Detachable/dp/B0BL16M8FH/ref=sr_1_1?

The gold fittings like slid into the connection

[dusky hearth]

Yeah those are the 2 pin connectors

"are there other iem recommendations"

Yeah why wouldn't there be

Literally thousands of recommendations

Depending on your budget needs and tastes

[manic cloak]

literally just answered yourself and why I asked that

lowkey 20-80$ range

[gentle pollen]

I just learned one of my Dynamic X2 GP18 fans is damaged.

How can I fix this or do I need to warranty it?

[dusky hearth]

How would anybody recommend anything without knowing what sound profile you prefer and what budget (and any extra feature(s) you might want)

[solid pagoda]

Anyone here have a 5090 astral that they vertically mounted?

Wondering what product you used

And what case you have^

[potent portal]

The cooler master and phanteks ones are frequently recommended. Phanteks you can get without a riser too, so you can get your own 5.0 one.

It would still work perfectly at 4.0 otherwise

Sometimes better if you're unlucky with the motherboard

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal spamming self promo everywhere

Ty

[fickle bolt]

How does one open this laptop up

Msi raider ge76

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/4MrwfUoX43o?si=7QmLH7Yc2Is7QnOR

[fickle bolt]

Thanks

[lament heath]

Can anyone help me with a diagnostic question? My pc has started shutting off and turning back on on it's own when playing balders gate but the weird thing is that the fans and rgn are still running. Anyone know what that might be or how I could troubleshoot it? I'm unsure if it's the psu or gpu or something

[rotund garnet]

I just built my PC
computer keeps freezing
Fans keep ramping
Missing one of the sensors in the box
Fans get loud when first starting up
Cpu temp in bios 63.5
Mb temp 40
Mos temp 41
Gpu load on l connect shows it goes from 1-50 idle and 6-100 in game
anyone have any idea whats going on

[mossy venture]

What types of freezing

Needing to shut the pc off for it to resume?

And what's your pcs specs

Cpu/motherboard/ram/gpu/power supply would be helpful

[rotund garnet]

X870E Nova WiFi, 9800x3d, 9070xt asrock taichi, Samsung 990 evo plus 2TB M.2, super flower 1200 leadex v11 power supply, mag coreliquid i360 liquid cooler and lian li 216 case

[mossy venture]

Update firmware on your ssd and update bios on your mobo

[rotund garnet]

its more of a freeze for a couple of seconds and resumes

[mossy venture]

Samsung update magician I think is the tool for updating firmware

Asrock website will have a tutorial for bios update

[rotund garnet]

yep did the motherboard already, ill check the firmware tool

[mossy venture]

Ah alright

Have you enabled expo on the ram?

[rotund garnet]

expo? ..

dont tell me its because of that. i have no idea what that is

[mossy venture]

I don't know what that sentence means

Expo enables the ram to run at its rated speed, it's a setting in bios

Also what ram do you have

I feel like you're going to say corsair 6000cl36 vengeance

[rotund garnet]

yep

[mossy venture]

Lolol

[rotund garnet]

6400

[mossy venture]

Yeah enable expo

6400 might cause issues, but if it does you can change it to 6000

Also is it 2x16?

4 sticks of ddr5 is harder to run

[rotund garnet]

nah x2 32

[mossy venture]

Should be alright, but ye can just turn down to 6000 if needed

[snow dragon]

Yeah 6400 is hard to run

Not all chips can run 6400 stable I think

While maintaining the same ratio with 6000

[rotund garnet]

yea my gpu keeps ramping up same with the fans its crazy even after enabling expo

[snow dragon]

Have you reinstalled your graphics drivers

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[snow dragon]

[manic cloak]

well I don't know what sound profile and etc I need, I just referenced the ones I had and all I know

I dropped 150$ on IEMs (another tangzu waner, castor pro, zero blue2, chu IIs) to see whats best for whatever I need, I plan on returning 3 of them anyways

though with the zero blue2s amazon doesn't have an exact time frame until may in my area, then off of hangout audio it's about 2-3 weeks with a dac

[dusky hearth]

Off of the sound of the waner, do you want more or less bass? More or less treble?

Or is it adequate

[manic cloak]

Imo it lacked in bass for sure but I got past that, treble was clear enough, I don’t have the greatest opinion considering I was stuck on a mono sound gen 1 kraken

But an increase in base/treble performance I won’t mind

[dusky hearth]

salnotes zero:2 and chu 2 should have a little bit higher bass, chu 2 is a bit more v shaped
blue 2 should have slightly less bass, maybe a little more treble
caster should be v shaped

at least from looking at the measurements and comparing them

[snow dragon]

I did some cope with an app that lets you eq the output audio and now the chu 2 sounds really good

On windows its fxsound on linux one is called easyeffects

[plucky timber]

did someone say linux

[velvet hatch]

would anyone be able to recommend an alternative to the motherboard https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/nz8bt6. Im trying to purchase parts for a build by next week but at £98 soonest delivery date is next month and any sooner makes the cost £115 ish. im wondering if there are any alternatives that I might as well upgrade to if paying that price. For context this is the build im planning to put it in https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8Pxxkf

[vivid cloud]

Do they make any cases anymore with the LCD glass panel?

[cyan ravine]

Haven't for years

The snowblind afaik was the only one and it never took off cos the result wasn't great for one and the case performance itself was terrible too

Cool idea, no traction

[vivid cloud]

That would explain why i haven't been able to find one lol.

[cyan ravine]

You can mod a normal glass panel to have one

Very hard to do though and honestly the results are just not that great

Market is shifting to fully ventilated cases and panoramics instead rn

[vivid cloud]

yea, that seems like it would be a very difficult thing to do.

[cyan ravine]

I do know to a good degree how to do it

It would be better if they had cases that supported multiple glass panels

One for frosting, another for the monitor panel

Not the case tho unfortunately (pun not intended)

If you want a screen now you would be wise to get a cheap thermalright aio, the rest isn't really worth the price for the mod tricks you can do instead

[vivid cloud]

Yeah, i'll have to just stick to when i build another pc, to the cpu lcd display and a small or long panel screen. Feel like there isn't a whole lot of options for case designs lately.

[cyan ravine]

Go look up

Jonsbo d31 or d41

If you can still get one, they have a version with a screen on the front

They were recently discontinued so don't wait if you want something like that

It's about as close as you'll get

[mossy lion]

Question if I want to install a AM5 CPU Contact Frame which is a good brand to use?

[cyan ravine]

Those things cause more problems than they fix

I would avoid it personally

They're good on lga 1700/1851 because they maintain the shape of the cpu, but am5 never needed it

[mossy lion]

Ok good to know

Nevermind then lol

[cyan ravine]

You essentially trade off paste not getting down the sides of the cpu (does nothing) for any number of massive instability issues

As long as you never pick a conductive paste like arctic silver (old as hell tech) you should never be worried about it

[mossy lion]

Ok thank you for explaining

I saw that it help with temp of a PC so I thought I ask about it here

[cyan ravine]

Whereas the frame will cause like, ram to go missing, gpu to not be detected, massively unstable windows and blue screens

Etc etc

Even if you do it correctly

[cyan ravine]

It can ye but on AM5 it's basically no effect at all

The limit on am5 is not the way it's mounted

[rotund garnet]

ill give that a shot

[mossy lion]

Ok thank you

[cyan ravine]

[snow dragon]

I think it might be whats causing it

If the screen goes black and graphics card fans go wild then its gotta be that

[left fox]

https://skytechgaming.com/product/prism4-amd-r9-9900x3d-nvidia-rtx-5090-32gb-4-tb-nvme-gen4-64gb-ram/

[left fox]

Guys take a look at this

and let me know if it makes sense

https://danscustombuiltgamingbeasts.com/products/rtx-4090-custom-built-gaming-pc-ryzen-9-9950x3d-192gb-ddr5-ram-4tb-ssd-wifi-vr?_pos=18&_sid=b8de6feae&_ss=r

[weary galleon]

No gpu?

[left fox]

no gpu

[manic cloak]

Realized moons don’t have a mic, and it’s kinda weird putting in the 2 pin cause they don’t want to go in fully?

I’ve tried pushing it but I don’t want it to snap

I thought it was like that until it fell out

[dusky hearth]

most IEMs add a mic on the cable side

you could probably use the same cable you have on the waner if it has a mic, or buy a cable with a mic

[languid nimbus]

[manic cloak]

well I know that, the waner's fitting doesn't fit in the moon

[dusky hearth]

Oh

[dusky hearth]

No, it should work, I just checked and they're both the same connector

[manic cloak]

they're both the same yes but different ways

[dusky hearth]

Though the waner one is designed so that the cable can be recessed

But it's not required

[manic cloak]

the waners has a plastic piece shortening the 2 pins

while the moon has nothing surrounding it and is longer

That's the waner

this is the moon's

[dusky hearth]

Oh so that's what people were mentioning
Ok then in that case the chu 2 cable can be used with the waner but not the other way around

Unfortunate

[manic cloak]

mhm, hopefully the pro's have a chu like cable

otherwise i'm just using the tangzu rn

[dusky hearth]

2 pin .78mm spacing is pretty common

[manic cloak]

I think that's what the pros have, I heard/read something about that

[dusky hearth]

Seems like they are one of the few that use a .75mm pin spacing

might still fit but would be a tighter fit

[lone flame]

I always forget how big my 6950 is

Even tho the 50 series makes it looks tiny

[drifting pebble]

what's a good wifi repeater and ethernet cable for it

[tawny violet]

I'm debating on getting a 6900XT myself lol

[lone flame]

From XFX?

Or just whatever you can find

[tawny violet]

Potentially XFX cuz they seem the cheapest
But I can get an ASRock Formula one for 3% more lol

[dusky hearth]

repeaters are meh
just get another accesspoint (or some router combo units can also run in ap mode)

[tawny violet]

And IIRC the Formula OCs really well

[dusky hearth]

or if your current router combo supports it, add a mesh router/ap combo unit

[tawny violet]

You reckon an A-tier 750w will be enough?

[lone flame]

Formula are the greenish ones iirc?

[tawny violet]

Yeah one of the few guaranteed XTXH cards

Which is like

An OC short of a 6950XT (for the most part)

At least IIRC it is

[lone flame]

Yeah I never understood what was different with the 6900s and the different boards

[tawny violet]

One of the few tangibly different variants is the XTXH core cards

[lone flame]

Funny enough that’s what I’m tearing apart my build for rn, taking out my Corsair 750 RMe and putting in an 1000w unit from lian li

[tawny violet]

Cuz XTXH cores overclock super well

But like

It's probably still gonna be slower than a 6950XT by a couple percentage points

But it'll get close

[tawny violet]

Issues with a 750 not being enough?

[lone flame]

I think maybe once or twice I might have had an issue with the psu tripping?? Either way I was sick of the corsair units’s coil whine and I wanted headroom and futureproofing

[tawny violet]

Ah coil whine

That's actually fair

I assume the trips happened when like fully loading down everything?

[lone flame]

Last time it happened (I think it was PSU) I was maxed out on HD2 and my pc just shut off, no warning

No blue screen or anything just off

[stoic island]

Always check event viewer to be sure it's not something crashing

[lone flame]

I did and it was a kernel error

I can’t remember what it was

Iirc Felix pointed me in the direction of it being a potential psu thing

This was over a month ago so I cant really remember

[tawny violet]

So generally it SHOULD be good

[drifting pebble]

[tawny violet]

I'm eyeing the Adata Core Reactor II VE 750w

[drifting pebble]

how about one of those expensive wifi repeaters

[tawny violet]

Can get it for a really good price and it's known to perform

[drifting pebble]

from tplink

[lone flame]

Yeah most likely

Especially if you have a lower tdp cpu

IMO I’d recommend a 850 just because of me being anxious about stuff and just wanting peace of mind lol

[tawny violet]

Well that's a question I've been agonizing over

I can go with like

A 7800X3D

Or a 7700

7800X3D is 88 watts total power draw

But it's fairly pricey
Or I bite the bullet and go 9800X3D right off the bat

[lone flame]

I also plan to go zen6 high end x3d in the future so that’s why I wanted the extra headroom cause who knows how much that is going to draw

My cables in the back of my dual chamber are so bad bro 😭

I should of taken the time to try and manage them before and I just never did

[tawny violet]

Lol

Sounds familiar

I'll have to remanage my own cables eventually

Probably when I upgrade

The GPU I mean cuz that's gonna be a PSU upgrade too

Anyhow

The 850 would be like

8% price diff

[drifting pebble]

who is neweggservice?

[tawny violet]

That feels like a generally good idea to have when you wanna go high end GPU

[drifting pebble]

is it a bot

[lone flame]

I think it’s something automated yeah

[tawny violet]

@lone flame either way
I can go 7700 to save a bit
Or just bite the bullet and 9800X3D it right off the bat

6900 XT would probably be balanced with the 7700

While a 9070 XT would be great with the X3D

[stoic island]

Newegg service has a human support rep last I checked

[lone flame]

I always thought it was automated

whoops

[tawny violet]

It's a matter of saving money for longer and getting a larger jump
Versus
Just getting the framerate uplift gratification sooner at the cost of upgrading again way later

For reference the 7700+6900 XT is a little less than half that of a 9800X3D+9070 XT combo

[stoic island]

Should delay the gratification

Unless the global economy collapses

[lone flame]

What are you upgrading from

[tawny violet]

Tbf I wanna go with an OLED nonetheless
So it might be smart to compromise on what I can upgrade later anyway

[lone flame]

Seems like we are on the way to that

[tawny violet]

7600X+6700XT

And a 180hz 1080p screen

[lone flame]

That’s trippy I upgraded to my 6950 from a 6700 XT

[tawny violet]

I'd go to a 1440p QD-OLED

[stoic island]

I got an OLED monitor while on a 3060ti lol

It is a very nice experience

[tawny violet]

The only real worry I have

[stoic island]

Even if you can't drive 1440p240

[tawny violet]

Is that the 6700XT wouldn't reach 60

[lone flame]

I was running my 6950 on a 720p smart tv for like 2 months before I got a 165hz 1440 IPS

[tawny violet]

Cuz 60 is fairly important

@stoic island would it make close to 60?

I guess at like medium-high settings, most likely

[drifting pebble]

or a mini led va

good value

[tawny violet]

Def not ultra

[stoic island]

6700xt is around a 3060ti, could hit 100 in most games on med settings, hits 60+ high RT off in cp2077 for example

RT on drops to like 40

[tawny violet]

So I guess it ain't so bad after all

Well guess I now know what I'll get hehehehe

[drifting pebble]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167430860337?_skw=3070+ti+graphics+card&epid=5050211423&itmmeta=01JR628ECTYT2Q7X0J897YX404&hash=item26fba82e31:g:oakAAOSw~iBn8Wpn&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0IUNi59bckQcV2ImusJGAkHXMsmM5CVgU1%2FHXwpxH9ZzT1Pp0IauroQTUDiCgrW9Luu2mL3CylBcn4iO7Gwd0mUznW70yLEFETT3lSszQmN9EFOPHrNlKrrt%2Fudbi3uWG2kJdBu5AsjgD2biaoVzNq0Y6GFtWs%2BWPOxmr%2BYymjnusjVjAfDUumoplCX2pxQtkQ%2FT5i7EwqeKS8XWBn8%2Br6FEKsMfWapFAVfsyh2vWkT7m43NEz15hEw6Hsv1dXTytz0PyQEDSQx8%2F5fTaH5zlt0%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8bmocLBZQ

[tawny violet]

That's reassuring @stoic island

Thanks for the input

I might've been worried for nothing

I'mma delay the PC upgrade part then

Well
Like a big one

[drifting pebble]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326514162969?_skw=6900+XT&itmmeta=01JR655R10R40J0XKSQ31H91YA&hash=item4c05c2bd19:g:jaAAAOSwjsVn3vSX&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAAwFkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dRVvniJIn%2Fbe270%2BjqsQwXXH38tQxFUsFewZa7VdThiVZsrNyHSrnBeo138wL9gAt1OUIngPlG0J5PCbpMXrIWnMnIjo%2BySVlYB8UbkYs6NuUsQYNj%2Fj2Pr%2FMi4sLqCW3LvNDQhDHxR5fvE1mi2LOXPwn382Pa8awyv0TOdxi3PwNULD7u8Wy6qx9yU66cvdxaSdYgAcjWVywBn0QiL7mNsZ1rPhgCdRWCHU6qJRGpxg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9SAl8XBZQ

[tawny violet]

I still wanna get more memory and likely a better motherboard

[drifting pebble]

very cheap

[stoic island]

You can always just try it, if it doesn't go well for you, just upgrade then

[tawny violet]

I'm gonna upgrade anyway when I have funds

I just wanna make the most out of my upgrade sequence

Try to spend the least for as big an uplift as possible

That being said

Display - CPU - GPU seems more and more enticing

I was worried I'll also need the GPU right away

But like optimizing settings is fair
Or just slap everything to medium and have a high refresh rate experience

[grave crescent]

Like Minecraft at 1000+ fps

High refresh rate experience

[tawny violet]

Don't need to go that stupid

But hitting like 200fps in CS would be cool

[stoic island]

Need to find some way of getting over 100fps on clausewits engine

[tawny violet]

CPU upgrade :3

Unironically I play a lot of EU4 and HOI4 so

That 9800X3D does sound enticing

It's pretty much THE processor to have there

[stoic island]

If you play MP, anything within like the last 4 years is gonna do fine because there's always someone with terrible internet

[tawny violet]

That's why I love that GN includes Stellaris as a benchmark

Cuz Stellaris and HOI4 uses hardware very similar

So ye

I'm gonna get that 9800X3D eventually

[stoic island]

Paradox still uses basically the same engine for all of them

[tawny violet]

Which is handy cuz it means that the CPU needs are very similar

Might even slap a 240 AIO on it for the drip factor

Though arguably air cooling could beat that

[dusky hearth]

also we have a #networks-security-and-home-servers channel
what repeater are you talking about? repeaters in general aren't really recommended due to the added latency and occasional random issues that might appear

[tawny violet]

@stoic island I'm guessing a Phantom Spirit 120 EVO or a FROZN A620 GDL would beat a cheap 240 AIO

Even including an LF3

[stoic island]

240 should win by a small margin still iirc

[tawny violet]

Especially the A620 cooler is priced super impressively

Like

The PS120 Evo is probably overpriced

[stoic island]

But effectively able to cool a similar amount

[tawny violet]

But the A620 is the same price as the 240 AIO with no pump to fail

Def enough for a 9800X3D

Has to be

Ultimately the 240 AIO has the drip

But the air cooler probably has the reliability

[manic cloak]

@dusky hearth The castor pros are similar to waners, so moondrop is just on it's own

Testing with only music for now though, the Chu IIs are quieter than the Waners but the Chus 100% have a more cleaner sound, plus they're smaller and metal which I enjoy in my ears. The castor pros have the way better wire but are bigger than the waners, though it's got a both of loud sounding and clear sound like the chu's

I still have to test games and etc but I think the castors might be the winner

[delicate rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102940078505984/1358591215792295936/IMG_1675.mov?ex=67f4662b&is=67f314ab&hm=2f69106eed357c1f03e5adb242039ed0d198208c311df401109d3b1e6323a525&

can anyone help me with this

new pc I made keeps flickering like this

[drifting pebble]

barely noticeable

[plucky timber]

Describe said flickering

The camera doesn't capture it in any meaningful way

[shrewd gale]

So, I didn't buy windows, I downloaded it on a USB and after everything setting up, got a message on the down right of my screen saying activate windows, but I don't have a activation code...

Kind of phacing a wall

[stoic island]

You can effectively ignore it, or you can acquire a key any way you want, or bypass it with a script

[shrewd gale]

Ah.

[delicate rivet]

Maybe this one’s better?

[stoic island]

Check the cable, check the monitor

It seems too regular to be random, most likely to be either something with the bottom half of the monitor, or something to do with the cable

Doesn't really look like driver issues but could still be possible if it persists with different cable and different monitor

[fickle bolt]

My USB3 connector is blocking the mounting point for my gpu support bracket, what should I do about it when I get an actual gpu?

[crude onyx]

What's an ideal max speed for case fans?

im looking for the quietest I can get non rgb white fans that aren't dog

was thinking about Be quiet shadow wings or arctic P12 fans

Also would a 7600x need a dual tower cooler?

[stoic island]

thermalright has been doing pretty well with fans nowadays

[stoic island]

won't need, but considering costs, it's like $30 for single tower or $40 for decent dual tower coolers so generally you might as well

[crude onyx]

Even in a Micro ATX?

[stoic island]

what case

[crude onyx]

https://a.co/d/iioEXHK

[stoic island]

it'll either fit or it won't fit height wise, single or dual tower won't matter much on its own

163mm for cpu cooler, it'll fit most things

[crude onyx]

cool

[stoic island]

pa120 for example is 155mm
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09LGY38L4

[crude onyx]

ic

how is this then?https://a.co/d/cbXbSqZ

oh wait nmever mind

[stoic island]

it's just a pa120 with an additional display thing plate

[crude onyx]

says 162

im just barely hitting that limit

[stoic island]

listed support for the case is 163.5

still have a lil bit of clearance

[manic cloak]

don't forget ram clearance

but my case is 160mm

with the fan boosted above the ram, obviously each ram heatsink is different, but mine makes it a height of 159.5mm

[crude onyx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4cCCmG/patriot-viper-venom-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv532g600c30k

[stoic island]

generally can move the fan to position it on the other side to not be above the ram

[crude onyx]

I should be fine?

[stoic island]

yea that's gonna be fine

it's sometimes an issue if you have tall sticks

[crude onyx]

https://a.co/d/6siW4yA
How is this

i dont wanna hit near the limit. also my pc is white so im trying to find white stuff

[manic cloak]

that's really good imo

[crude onyx]

cool

i think i literally only need case fans now and my pc is ready to be build