building-and-recc-chat

[manic cloak]

that was standard benchmarks

but throughout january and feburary I messed around with the voltage n etc

nothing significant, like 2-3 frames and temps were up and down

[young lodge]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/AlizarinRuri/saved/#view=6RsBTW

First time building a PC
Can i get help/recommendation for the remaining parts?
I hope to play games in 4k

[analog hearth]

Nice sign in page bro

Link at the top of this image as an example

[frigid edge]

You sent a private link, go back and copy the link in motor’s screenshot

[sharp compass]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nw7f2x

[analog hearth]

What's your question?

Referring to this: #general-chat message

Anyways, I doubt it's a power supply issue. Potentially graphics driver related? What's your GPU and which version of your GPU drivers are you running?

[karmic junco]

Goodmorning everyone, lastnight my PC started to crash in the middle of gaming (COD). Can’t even play a full game of multiplayer or Warzone.

My PC would go into “sleep mode” and say “Signal can’t decent Display port or HDMI” but my PC will still be on, I can hear and chat to everyone in discord my RGB lights and fans everything stays on but my monitors.

I’ve tried changing my windows settings and it’s all set to “NEVER” I tried resetting my BIOS and nothing happens. My PC is not overheating, my buddy said it’s a PSU problem. I have a 1000W PSU that’s a year old.

Any ideas or help I would gladly appreciate the help. Thank you.

[analog hearth]

Yeah there's no way it's the PSU

Actually, it could be as simple as the cable

I would say potentially your monitor dying but you say it says "no signal"

The possibilities I can think of:

• Related to GPU drivers
• Bad cable from the GPU to the monitor

[karmic junco]

All drivers are updated. I’ll switch the cables out today and try. That’s one step I didn’t do. I have 2 monitors and they both crash.

[analog hearth]

What's your GPU?

Wondering for whether it's an Nvidia GPU. They've recently had some driver issues regarding a black screen

and AMD had the same thing years ago too (actually why people say "AMD has bad drivers" lol)

[karmic junco]

I’m on Nvidia 3090ti

[analog hearth]

Yeah probably it. Try rolling back your drivers

(Forgot which version)

[karmic junco]

OK I’ll look into it thank you. Any other suggestions before I hit up Micro center

[analog hearth]

Try DDU and installing the latest drivers. Same issue? DDU again and install the previously working drivers (again, I forgot which version that is lol. There's probably a thread on Reddit with some people commenting who have a driver version listed that worked for them)

[karmic junco]

Will do thank you so much appreciate the help

[analog hearth]

Yep 👍 :)

[potent portal]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[potent portal]

Steps referencing what motor mentioned.

[lean thistle]

found a 6700xt for under 130. is it fake

its on ebay

[weary galleon]

Likely

Or it's for parts (broken)

[tall shard]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pFByW

good

[lean thistle]

is yput budget 1000?

dont buy the 7600. horrible gpu

the price is too high for what it is

mostly bcuz of the vram

[weary galleon]

market is kinda cooked rn gotta remember

but yeah there are likely better options

especially if you can go used

[lean thistle]

true

what graphics quality r u playing at

if its 1440p i would go 3060 ti (used) or a 6650 xt

[weary galleon]

id grab a 6700xt over a 3060ti tbh. get a bit more vram

though looking at ebay 3060tis are cheaper lol

[lean thistle]

act yea. even tho price is higher prob worth it

lowkey

i say ditch the 5600

and go 7500F

and 6700 xt

much better combo since 5600 might be too weak

[weary galleon]

am5 kinda depends on their total budget

5600 is fine with a 6700xt

[lean thistle]

it might work but if its 1440p it might bottleneck tho

[weary galleon]

nah

i ran a 5600 and 3060ti at 1440p for a couple years

by the time the 5600 bottlenecks it's usually in like csgo or overwatch where you're already gettin 200+ frames

[lean thistle]

alr

[tall shard]

is the ram fine at least

[lean thistle]

yea i did bottleneck calculator and its just above 5% so u sjpuld be good

[lean thistle]

yea

[weary galleon]

personally I would rather get non-rgb ram and then spend $ on a cooler with rgb

[weary galleon]

bottelneck calculators are BS btw

?bottleneck

[jolly river]

"TL;DR Bottleneck calculators take massive generalisations and will cause someone to almost completely miss the entire snapshot of the performance that they wanted to know in the first place.

Bottleneck calculators are a commonly searched tool on the internet to make a generalised comment on a pairing of hardware for things such as games, workstation software, rendering and the like.

Bottlenecks are regarded as a limit for a pc in a given task, and each different workload, each different game, each different task may and will push a pc to a limit in a certain way, and it's never the same way. Some games will push the cpu to a limit, most the GPU, some the ram, etc.

Bottleneck calculators try to generalise this and this is why you should never use them. It isn't a true outlook of the hardware you'd be working with and doesn't give you a real take on the performance, especially when you consider your own individual needs. Some bottlenecks are good for example, a lot are expected and normal, some are caused by the application itself and don't bring out the full pc performance either, the games or apps you use might be very specific and unique in their behaviour and have an entirely different realm of performance altogether."

[lean thistle]

oh dang

ok

[lean thistle]

hey what games r u gonna play

[weary galleon]

I would edit it slightly to be more like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BRLb2
with this gpu: https://www.ebay.com/itm/286399247519
with more digging you might find a better deal on a gpu

and if you can stretch the budget a little, AM5 is probably a good investment

[lean thistle]

...

what

i got a msg

from dynaegg

saying watch my language

cuz i said

the store name

g

2

a

but yea if u need windows go to that store

very cheap

[dusky hearth]

it's because it's a grey market (and the keys are often stolen)

and you don't have to pay for windows anyways

i'd even recommend against paying for it at all considering the state of windows

buggy and data mining

[lean thistle]

ah ok

[lean thistle]

wdym

[weary galleon]

there are multiple ways to activate it for free

just look it up on like youtube

[mossy venture]

He can say what he wants and you can believe what you want

Google is free

[lean thistle]

ok

[dusky hearth]

• microsoft officially allows you to use windows un-activated as well

[weary galleon]

Yes but watermark sucks

[dusky hearth]

true ish

the water mark only shows up on the "main" monitor though

so if you have 2 monitors, and you set your secondary monitor as your "main", the watermark will only show up on the secondary monitor lmfao

[weary galleon]

Hah, never thought of that lol

[zenith cargo]

wait I if I were to get a new mb, would I need to reinastall everything or just mb drivers>

?**

[pseudo pollen]

huh

not sure why you'd get just a new mobo, but it should just be plug and play

[potent portal]

If it's the same chipset as the old one then it's plug and play, but if you went from, say, B650 to X870E, you'd probably want to reinstall chipset drivers.
You'll also need to install any board specific drivers like Wi-Fi.

[zenith cargo]

what about am4 to am5

[potent portal]

Reinstall Windows

Not kidding

[zenith cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-drop-gif-1982649100088909979

[potent portal]

If you don't you can lose 15% of your performance

[zenith cargo]

Do I need to tweak anything in the bios?

Or leave it alone and reinstall windows?

Im just trying to see what to expect when I upgrade

[potent portal]

Leave it at stock settings when installing

Turn on expo/xmp after you can get to the desktop

That's about it

There's a few tweaks you can do to get more performance if you want. Some of them involve theoretically reducing your PC security.

[zenith cargo]

So after installing everything, just head into settings and click reset pc?

[potent portal]

No, not a reset, full reinstall from USB

[zenith cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-falling-dead-skeleton-skill-issue-gif-17769427810538404870

[potent portal]

You can install over your existing installation and it'll preserve all your data (in the Windows.old folder)

[zenith cargo]

last time I tried that It didn't work and I had to pay a guy $80

🫠

[potent portal]

As with all things with potential data loss... Backup your backup

[zenith cargo]

👍

Will the asrock pro rs pair well with the 9800x3d?

[potent portal]

Sure

[zenith cargo]

Im not looking to juice every bit of it, just want something that'll run

[potent portal]

Pro RS doesn't throttle a 7950X so it'll be fine

[zenith cargo]

sounds good

👍

are the mount brackets included?

for the mb

[potent portal]

Yes. Same mount as AM4.

Only coolers that replace the backplate aren't compatible

[zenith cargo]

really?

ok

[snow dragon]

Ah so you mean if you have windows 10 and you “upgrade” with the windows 10 installation media

[potent portal]

No

I mean you make a USB installer

Run it

And when it asks where to install Windows, point it at the C drive

[tall shard]

good psu?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pFByW

[torpid oar]

Yo can someone help me pick between these pcs?
R7 5700
RTX 2060 8gb
16GB 3600
512gb m.2 SSD
Used for a month $310
1

Intel i7, 16GB RAM, 500GB
SSD, 1TB HDD, RTX 2060 8GB $525
2

Radeon XFX 6600
Ryzen 5 CPU
32GB memory
RGB inside
Keyboard and mouse included for free.
Also has a hard drive full of games.
I'm looking to sell my PC, well taken care of. No issues, Windows 11 pro, $400
3

Ryzen 7 5700x3d
Gigabyte 2070 3 fan
16gb ddr4 fan can upgrade for a cost
Custom painted case
750w power supply $415
4

[stoic island]

Spec wise #4 is probably the best

#3 if the games are on steam unless they give you their account you won't be able to play them lol

[weary galleon]

Honestly $415 for a 5700x3d/rtx 2070 is really solid

750W leaves room for a gpu upgrade as well

[jagged ember]

Custom painted case is gonna be interesting

But #4 is good

[zenith cargo]

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/374/1688607471/F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RW good ram choice?

[weary galleon]

6000cl32 or cl30 is more ideal

[potent portal]

Them's Samsung timings

It'll run ok with expo but don't expect much when overclocking

[cyan ravine]

Them's the samsung plague

[cinder musk]

Sup y'all, I just upgraded and installed my new 9070 XT (Gigabyte Gaming Radeon OC) that I bought off of newegg and my pc keeps crashing and I got a green screen at one point? Which is a new one for me, but no blue screen or black screen the PC just completely freezes and I have to force shut it down. I've done literally everything I can think of - rechecking/using different gpu cables, reinstalling drivers (using a DDU of course), reinstalling windows, confirming everything is up to date, etc. I don't know if this is a issue the 9070 XT's are having but I used OCCT and on literally every test option I'm getting WHEA Error detected. I'm not sure what else to do, anybody got any ideas? Here's what the event viewer error is -

A corrected hardware error has occurred.

Component: PCI Express Root Port
Error Source: Advanced Error Reporting (PCI Express)

Primary Bus:Device:Function: 0x0:0x1:0x0
Secondary Bus:Device:Function: 0x0:0x0:0x0
Primary Device Name:PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_460D&SUBSYS_88821043&REV_02
Event ID 17

[potent portal]

Have you reseated the GPU and all the powr cables

[cinder musk]

Yup

[potent portal]

When does it crash? Idle, gaming?

[cinder musk]

Both?

[potent portal]

Hmm so it's not a power issue

What about changing the PCIe version of the slot to 4.0

[cinder musk]

Like I'll have it running max settings on Forza for example and it was fine, and then I opened Filmora and it froze lol

[cinder musk]

Like in the bios?

I looked and it was set to auto

[potent portal]

Yes

[cinder musk]

In the PCH Config

[potent portal]

Auto usually means "whatever the highest version the attached device supports" which will be 5.0

[cinder musk]

Okay I'll try that real quick

[potent portal]

Some motherboards have been having problems with PCIe 5.0 stability, and they're only recently becoming a problem since the 5.0 compatible GPUs only just launched

[cinder musk]

Interesting, I hadn’t heard about that

[cyan ravine]

Almost as if they maybe never had 5.0 in the first place....

[cinder musk]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[potent portal]

Oh they undoubtedly skimped where they could

[cyan ravine]

I would be 0% surprised LMAO

[cinder musk]

LMAO

[potent portal]

Especially since they knew nothing could use 5.0 to test it properly so they could push that off as a "future problem"

Except now is that future

[cinder musk]

Okay went to PCH Config, switched em all to Gen4 and ran OCCT and still giving WHEA errors

[cyan ravine]

WHEA

Interesting

Downclock the ram

[potent portal]

PCI related WHEA at that

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[potent portal]

Based on that log

[cyan ravine]

Vram

Try downclocking the vram and if it goes away, RMA it

do idk

-500

-1000

Whatever it allows

[potent portal]

The good news is that if the VRAM is the problem you won't have an issue getting a replacement, because there's actually good stock for them to replace from

[cinder musk]

So I have never owned a AMD card yet lol So stupid question, do you do that in bios or adrenalin?

[cinder musk]

Truuuuu

[cyan ravine]

adrenalin

Go to tuning

Advanced

VRAM

Leave timings alone

But if you can drop the slider at all do that

And increase the power even

[cinder musk]

I mean the max req is already set to 2518

I can't go any lower than that

[cyan ravine]

Try pushing power then

Throw all the powers

Increase voltage

See if that proves anything]

WHEA errors are data corruption based

So immediate suspicions fall on pcie slot, ram, vram

Unlikely to be anything else, maybe ssd?

That's about it really

[cinder musk]

I mean I have a Y70 Case so I have the vertical mount but I did check those and didn’t have a problem like this with my 4060 ti so I don’t think it would be the pcie slot, I just got brand new ram that was running fine - Trident Z 64gb

[cyan ravine]

4060 TI is pcie x8 wired

i.e It doesn't use half the riser

[cinder musk]

Increased the power limit by 10% and still getting the WHEA errors

[cyan ravine]

Super sus

Try changing to pcie 2.0

Then try again

[zenith cargo]

Fal'Cie

these are fine right?

for the 9800x3d

[zenith cargo]

I saw a guy running a 9800x3d and the timings had little to no impact on fps

like 2 -3 fps diff

he tested 28, 36, and 40

nothing major on x3d chips

[cyan ravine]

@cinder musk anything?

[cinder musk]

Just booting the pc back up one sec lol

Running OCCT…

Omg that worked

I’m not getting errors

I can’t believe I didn’t think to use the other PCIE slot lol

THANK YOU

[cyan ravine]

Wait you changed to the other slot?

I meant change slot 1 to 2.0

[cinder musk]

……

[cyan ravine]

But wait this is good

Tell me

What mobo is it

[cinder musk]

I MEAN ITS WORKING LOL

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[cinder musk]

Asus Prime Z790-V Wifi

[cyan ravine]

z?

[cinder musk]

Ye

V

[cyan ravine]

Or is it P or A?

V?

[cinder musk]

It’s 3am I’m tired LOL Yes, V

[cyan ravine]

Hmm

Ok so it works slot 2 in x4 mode

That's sus af

LOL

[cinder musk]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-fire-this-is-fine-trash-fire-fire-flames-gif-7132452217740520778

[zenith cargo]

Any tips before getting rid of my mb cpu and ram? Moving onto am5

[cyan ravine]

Try moving it back to slot 1 but set slot 1 as gen 2

[cyan ravine]

Selling it will get you at least 3 figures

[zenith cargo]

more like $250

[cyan ravine]

Lol

Worth it imo

[zenith cargo]

im selling my cpu for $130

😢

[cyan ravine]

Nice

[zenith cargo]

not rlly

[cyan ravine]

Depreciation is a monster of a concept

[zenith cargo]

No

lowballers are

[cinder musk]

Switched it to gen 2 and it’s giving WHEA errors

maybe you were right lol It is the slot

[cyan ravine]

It's possible

The slot or the riser

It's one or the other really

If you can mount to gpu straight into the motherboard you'd know for sure

[cinder musk]

Lol sadly I can't cuz it's a Y70

[cyan ravine]

What I mean by the above is

Take the mobo out

Remove the riser out of the equation altogether

Cos the reason I say this is risers are such a common fail point

I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the culprit

[cinder musk]

[cyan ravine]

I mean hey man, you'd have to claim warranty for one or the other

May as well rip the bandaid off now

[cinder musk]

True

[cyan ravine]

Cos running the 9070XT slot 2 is only 4 lanes of bandwidth

Which is

Honestly not enough

[cinder musk]

Fair

[cyan ravine]

It sucks but is what it is

Get it over with when you next can then finally rule out board or riser altogether

[cinder musk]

Well this defs sounds.... like a problem for tomorrow LOL

[cyan ravine]

Easy enough tbh

[cinder musk]

I appreciate all your help, I will follow up tomorrow ig lol

[cyan ravine]

Np

[tawny violet]

Samsung chips suck anyway, they are just bad

If you can get ideal, why settle for anything less?

[cyan ravine]

Think the more important part is the best kind of DDR5 is found for as low as $73-$75 for 32gb

Stuff that gives out the full gamut of performance rather than samsung only getting partway there (even with X3D)

So it's more like, you can do better for less money so why not?

[zenith cargo]

bry

bru

oh well I bought it already

now how the hell ima tell my mom im spending $500 on a cpu 🥲

(she sorta flipped out when I told her about the mb and ram)

(she wants me to be financially responsible)

[tawny violet]

Don't tell her

You earned the money right?

[zenith cargo]

u right, i'm sure she won't notice the new shiny boxes and me dismantling my pc 👍

[tawny violet]

Just gotta do it at the right time lol

[zenith cargo]

lmao

rather just come clean

[half patrol]

morning lads and ladettes. pop quiz, i5 14600kf or i7 14700kf bang for buck vs performance, is the i7 worth the difference? oO

[potent portal]

No it's not worth it

Even if it were only $50 more it's only about 2% better at gaming at best

[tall shard]

is this psu good>

ASRock Challenger CL-650G 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

[rain carbon]

asking for advice by proposing it as a pop quiz is genius ngl

[tawny violet]

That's kinda rad ye

[tall shard]

ASRock Challenger CL-650G 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply is this gonna blow up

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KLH9yW

[stoic island]

Don't think any major reviewer has reviewed it yet

[potent portal]

That's a B tier unit most likely, but like mr1111 said there's no definitive answer due to lack of load test reviews.

B tier is plenty good for your setup. Running a 7800 XT or 9070 would be fine with that.

[muted shore]

I don't think tiers matter

I'm running some f tier and it works fine

[stoic island]

It's all about the protection features. I'd rather have a PSU that can shut itself off instead of starting a fire if anything is out of spec.

best to wait for someone to actually test that specific unit to know if everything is within spec

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/power-supply-psu-explodes-x-kom-gif-13279795578291244134

[lean thistle]

should i switch from a ryzen 7500F to a 5600 to get a bit more money on the gpu?

[dusky hearth]

i would say no

[stoic island]

Depends on how much it gets you and what the difference would be for the GPU

if it's like $20 and the only difference would maybe from a reference to a slight factory OC, then no

[plucky timber]

In this market?

Min maxing your cpu probably won't even get you any improvements

Maybe in December 24

But not March 25

[lean thistle]

it would be a 50 dollar diff in the cpu

technically more since then i would most likely just switch from ddr5 to ddr4 mobo and save more for the gpu

likely would save me 100 or 200

then with that i could push for a better 6000 series xt gpu or sum

[plucky timber]

What's your current list right now?

[stoic island]

need more specifics lol, what exactly are you currently getting at what price

[plucky timber]

A optimised 7500F build really isn't that much more than a 5600 build

[lean thistle]

here lemme make a list

[plucky timber]

Unless you're getting the cpu used

I don't think it's going to make that big of a dent and you'll probably be losing overall value

[lean thistle]

budget is 1k. planning to play at 1440p

cpu 7500F ryzen
b650 asrock pg lightning plus wifi
teamgroup t force delta 32 gb ddr5 6000mhz
klevv cras c910 1tb
xpg core reactor 2 650w gold full modular
okinos aqua 3 case
thermalright peer assas. 120 argb se
monitor undecided
gpu 6700xt

[plucky timber]

If it's a 1K budget I'd definitely go for the 7500F

If you're spending that much money already you can definitely fit a 7500F in the budget...gpu us annoying tho

Is the gpu used?

Thing is

[lean thistle]

yea

[plucky timber]

This is one of the worst times to buy a GPU

Like ever

[lean thistle]

expenskve?

[plucky timber]

Not just expensive

Stupidly expensive

You could've fit a 7800XT in a 1K budget back in december

[lean thistle]

well i was planning to buy in april but at this rate doesnt seem like much better

[plucky timber]

Used GPUs for 1K budgets are unironically a good idea now

[vocal hare]

I mean you still can you're just sacrificing in other ways

[plucky timber]

That is literally how abd the market is

[plucky timber]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

That's a very bad idea tbh

[lean thistle]

ik 😭 😭 😭 i wasnt into trying to build a pc back then tho

jdhdbbdjdkdd

[plucky timber]

Oh no I was just trying to demonstrate how bad it's gotten

It's like 2020 all over again

[lean thistle]

[vocal hare]

in the US the cheapest it got was about 100 cheaper than current

[plucky timber]

See my personal take is to just not buy anything but I'm chilling with a 3070

[plucky timber]

$100 is a lot

[lean thistle]

how bout a 2080 ti could i do that instead

[plucky timber]

Psu might be an issue

But if it's cheaper 🤷‍♂️

[vocal hare]

yeah but that was over the last like 6 months, its mostly been around 50-60 cheaper

[plucky timber]

Is it 750w or 850w for a 2080ti

[lean thistle]

i think 750

[vocal hare]

but if you're gonna buy mh wilds anyway its pretty much the same difference

[plucky timber]

I'm gonna say 750

Is the core reactor the one with one pcie connector or

Was that the Kyber

Oh wait that was the kyber

[vocal hare]

feels like core reactor would have more

[plucky timber]

Yeah it's modular

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zfGhP6/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii750g-bkcus

Cheapest 750w too (that doesn't explode)

Oh damn it's an A tier

[vocal hare]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yzXLfd

quick and dirty list not super optimized

[plucky timber]

Nah

Too much min-maxing tbh

[vocal hare]

i mean i just put it together in like a minute

didnt think it was that crazy in cutting stuff

[lean thistle]

could i do a 750pF with a 7800xt

7500f

[vocal hare]

saves like 30-40 bucks

[plucky timber]

I really wouldn't get that motherboard

[vocal hare]

@plucky timber so the cheapest 7800xt is only like 20 more than the 6 month average price

[plucky timber]

The B850M-X isn't really a good board

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rkqsjn

[vocal hare]

hmm isnt the ultra case like 5 more bucks for more fans?

[lean thistle]

i found a 7800xt for 365 on ebay

saves a 100

[plucky timber]

Yeah but you don't use the average

[vocal hare]

its generally been like 490 for the most part

[plucky timber]

Because it's a last gen gpu

[lean thistle]

also imma do micro atx cuz atx is norm more expensive

[vocal hare]

thats fair

[plucky timber]

It shouldn't even be at this price

[vocal hare]

think they have a microcenter nearby?

[plucky timber]

The build is still overbudget tho

[vocal hare]

9070 would be a worthwhile stretch

[plucky timber]

Even with a 7500F

[lean thistle]

i went to my mjcrocenter and all the 9000s were out

[vocal hare]

they've been getting ok restocks

you can call em before to see if they have any

[plucky timber]

Is a 2TB ssd a hard requirements?

[vocal hare]

prob not I just added it

but if you're in driving distance of a microcenter that changes things

cpu combos

not ideal ram though

[plucky timber]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_oltjttR

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/32BmQd

Just need to swap out the gpu

[plucky timber]

Meh

[vocal hare]

yeah the ram isnt very good

[plucky timber]

The combo have been pretty mid recently

I'd rather just buy separately

[vocal hare]

its better than the 7600x one realistically

[plucky timber]

There's like no svaings

[plucky timber]

Yeah but realistically the 7600x is overpriced

[vocal hare]

its really the ram that brings things down extra bad

[plucky timber]

Yeah I'd give it a thumbs up if the ram was at least good

But like

[vocal hare]

cl 36

[plucky timber]

At this price I'd just buy the cpu and motherboard separately

And eat up the extra $30-50 on ram cost

Cpu is like

[vocal hare]

250 ish

[plucky timber]

$159 + $139 + $79

For mother cpu and ram

[plucky timber]

Yeah no not with this budget

$377 total

Ok you're not actually saving much from going from a 7500F to the 7700x bundle

[vocal hare]

just picked that bundle over the 7600x because thats such a meh deal

[plucky timber]

Besides if it's is purely gaming scenario

Yes but realistically

The 7600x isn't a good choice

The 7500F is generally the go to

I mean the bundle is pretty mediocre but it's not too bad

A case can be made for it

If the budget allowed

[vocal hare]

its just the ram could be a lot better

[plucky timber]

We're already $100 overbudget

So I don't see how this can work

[spark eagle]

Hey guys , Can someone tell me why this GPU and MB say incompatible,,, I cant figure it out why ...https://newegg.io/ef5043a

[vocal hare]

....

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/32BmQd
I'd say this with a $400 gpu would do

[vocal hare]

i mean they building rn?

[plucky timber]

It is not incompatible

[lean thistle]

uh so what should i do eith my build

[weary galleon]

I don't see any incompatible warning, also GPU and motherboard can't really be incompatible anyways

[plucky timber]

I'd say the list I just linked is the cheapest

I'd find a $400 gpu

To fit within the budget

[lean thistle]

ok

[plucky timber]

Another alternative

You could upgrade the psu to a 850w and try to find a used 6950XT

[lean thistle]

alr

[spark eagle]

Yeah its super weird , new egg just keeps telling me it is on the pc builder .. I coulnt find out why ..

[plucky timber]

Those might still be around

[lean thistle]

i can find a used 7800xt fkr 365 on ebay

[plucky timber]

If it fits in 1k

[weary galleon]

Just use PCPartPicker.com

[plucky timber]

Not bad

[vocal hare]

if legits thats good

[spark eagle]

Thank you

[lean thistle]

ok

[vocal hare]

could be cheaper

[plucky timber]

I mean in this market?

[vocal hare]

but the current market is a mess

[plucky timber]

This is a cope price but

Used market is still below market low

That's good enough for 2025

[vocal hare]

whats the listing?

[plucky timber]

Like it should be $365 new

But in this market you can't be too picky really

[lean thistle]

oh

its 365 used

[plucky timber]

Oh no

[lean thistle]

still good tho right?

[vocal hare]

i mean the reason i'm jumping gpus around is because i sold my brother my 3080 for cheap to have him not pay absurd prices

[plucky timber]

It's fine

In this market yes

[lean thistle]

oo

ok

[plucky timber]

If it was a normal launch we'd be seeing dozens of used 7800XTs for sub $300

Only in my dreams...

[lean thistle]

and this will work eith the 7500F on 1440p well?

[plucky timber]

It'd be fine on 1440p yeah

[lean thistle]

ok

[plucky timber]

Depends on the game

But this might be as good as you can get for 1K

[lean thistle]

ok

[vocal hare]

seller has sold quite a few things

never a gpu before

but ebay protection is good

wait

if we're looking at the same listing its still being bid on

[lean thistle]

this?

[vocal hare]

yes

[plucky timber]

Oh it's a bid

Eh

Fake price

[vocal hare]

its still being actively bid on

weg...

[lean thistle]

.

[vocal hare]

these people

[lean thistle]

so i shouldnt bid

[plucky timber]

Isn't that 9070 msrp

Stupid idiots

[vocal hare]

9070xt fake msrp

[plucky timber]

These idiots are the reason why the prices are so high

The actual demand is much lower than the price suggests

I can bet that half of it is fomo induced scalping

[vocal hare]

i mean im overpaying for my 9070xt

but i just dont see it coming down

[plucky timber]

I really just don't care anymore

Gpus are overpriced, games are overpriced

Nothing to play so no reason to upgrade

[vocal hare]

for you

[plucky timber]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

2025 has turned me into a cynic

I blame the market

[vocal hare]

late genz cynic

[plucky timber]

We also just got hit by a cyclone so

Cost of living is not going to be fun in the next few months

I hate being a broke college student in 2025

[vocal hare]

yall at least have good housing insurance?

[plucky timber]

The hell

Oh cool I got a nice colour change

[plucky timber]

Yeah uhh

I'm on a student visa

💀

[urban monolith]

Good day I have a question.

Specs:
5700xt mech oc
3700x
16gb ram
750watt psu gold.

Lately when I try to game or just watch YouTube? My monitor would suddenly go “no signal” but pc still runs, when I hold power button to reset it still dose same thing for a while “no signal” I don’t have any other parts to check were the issue may be but is it just plain and simple that to card is giving up? When I can actually game I have to play my games at med to low, if it gos go high - ultra it shuts off (gpu)

[stoic island]

What GPU driver version are you on?

[urban monolith]

Latest. Been happening last 3 driver updates with clean installs.

[stoic island]

Have you tried DDU and rolling back to an older version, a month old or more?

[urban monolith]

Yes. Did all of that sir.

[stoic island]

How long have you had the 5700xt? Mech OC is a model that runs pretty hot iirc, if you haven't repasted it, it can be running pretty hot, especially if paste dried out over time

[plucky timber]

I think it's a simpler issue

Have you tried a different HDMI/DisplayPort cable?

[urban monolith]

Repasted 3 times in past six months

[urban monolith]

Yes sir.

[plucky timber]

Oh wait it shuts off

That's a different story

Windows related issue?

[urban monolith]

Yes. Zero fan spin but pc still runs (no signal)

[stoic island]

personally I found that black screen while still having audio on my old 3060ti turned out to be a nvldmkm issue with the drivers, so I'm suspecting AMD drivers rn

but doing some windows troubleshooting with dism and sfc wouldn't hurt

[urban monolith]

Reinstalled 3 times

Even if I try to under clock and under-volt same issue

[stoic island]

How about DDU and rolling back to something older, like one of the mid-2024 drivers?
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/previous-drivers.html/graphics/radeon-rx/radeon-rx-5000-series/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt.html

[urban monolith]

Oh forgot to mention. When it dose turn on after many power on n off. It has visuals but no audio. Then in device management it’s listed with (enable device)

[urban monolith]

I’ll try this once more

[stoic island]

smells like something with the drivers to me still, although it could be a different driver having issues too

[urban monolith]

Give me 10 minutes I’ll go do that right now sir.

[stoic island]

Side note, have you updated your motherboard bios since you got it? a longshot would be something to do with old usb dropout issues from like 4 years ago

and mobo chipset drivers

[urban monolith]

Yea sir. B450m pro gaming (ASUS tuf)

[urban monolith]

Yes.

[stoic island]

Probably not that then

[urban monolith]

The psu is ags750 proclaimed gold. But I don’t think it’s that because everything remains functional while gpu dose it’s sleep walking. Even external ssd are on

[stoic island]

Aresgame ags750? could definitely be a problem but should leave to the side for now

Test with DDU and multi month old drivers first

The audio thing also makes me think of famously unreliable realtek audio drivers, try reinstalling those afterwards

[urban monolith]

Sigh at this point I may as well build a new rig. It shut off mid installation of the drivers

[stoic island]

a bit weird

But troubleshooting in general has many moving parts and everything tends to be weird lol

Another side note, have you checked your SSD's SMART data? if the drive is borked it can make windows borked and lead to weird instability

[urban monolith]

My good sir thanks for your help in this mysterious cosmic adventure. I’m just going to let it be and build a new rig.

[urban monolith]

I give up on this old thing

[stoic island]

Well, it's up to you, I wish you luck, but I'd encourage you to not to throw it out and just come back to it another time

[weary galleon]

Send it to me :)

[urban monolith]

I’ll try again another time but been at this for a good few months I’m beat. If big if it’s sorted I’ll turn it into a home sever

[stoic island]

Good luck

[urban monolith]

👍

[urban monolith]

get this, i booted up pc while having it layed down, it boots up on first go

but then when i try to turn it up right as gently as possible it go "no signal"

[stoic island]

Some kind of bad contact issue now then

[wary tundra]

just installed my aorus 9070xt and gigabytes rgb software refuses to detect my gpu and my lights only turn on when its over 40 percent utl. has anyone else ran into this problem and know the fix

signal rgb also will not detect

[stoic island]

Lights on the fans or..?

[wary tundra]

yea light on the fans

[stoic island]

Only turning on when util is above 40 kinda sounds like it's related to the fan curve, have you tried turning it off and switching the bios switch thing physically on the card? It's possible that it just won't show up if it's under the silent mode

[wary tundra]

ill give that a try

[wary tundra]

I got control of the logo but the fans for some reason wont turn on

so they fan curve thing you said might be correct

actually you were right I got it to turn on

thank you!

[zenith cargo]

can activate windows 11 on the new mb?

idc if I have to wipe everything

[tall shard]

Is klevv ssd good

[weary galleon]

c910 yes

Pretty sure I already said this to you

[tulip dragon]

hey is a ryzen 7 9700x a good gaming cpu?

[tawny violet]

it's fine, but pricey

7700 or 7700X does 90% of the performance for like 20-30% less money

[tulip dragon]

micro center has a deal with it right now for that cpu and motherboard and 32gb of ram for $400. that's why i am asking

[tawny violet]

ah

See that is fair

[tawny violet]

can you link the deal?

[vocal hare]

pretty meh ram

6000 cl 36

the 7700x bundle is like 30 dollars cheaper but still the same ram

[cyan ravine]

Those bundles don't sound too bad tbh

[potent portal]

$30 to get 5% more performance... Hmm, tough call

Might as well if you're not planning to use that $30 for other parts

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

The net price sounds not bad tho

120 for board, 80 for ram, 170-200 for cpu

It's a little better than buying individually

C36 is bleh but you're saving by doing that

So it's a value compromise rather than a bad pick

[potent portal]

Most people won't bother overclocking anyway

It's fine for expo

[zenith cargo]

Fal'Cie can I wipe my computer on the new mb?

idc ab my files

[tulip dragon]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006970/amd-ryzen-7-9700x,-gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-v2,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[zenith cargo]

using Microsoft Media Creation Tool?

[twin stag]

I got my pc a few days ago

And my asus wifi antennas blue tooth isn't working

The wifi is working just fine

But the bluetooth isn't working

[plucky timber]

Have you tried installing drivers from the manufacturer's website?

[twin stag]

Uh no I don't think so

Ima try that

@plucky timber is there a specific website that I should go to?

[plucky timber]

The manufacturer's

Specifically the page for your pc

The drivers should be listed on the product page somewhere

[twin stag]

@plucky timber alright I looked at my system manufacturer and it says ABS computer technologies

[plucky timber]

What motherboard does it have?

It should say in the bios

If you can't tell by looking through the side panel

[twin stag]

That would be the baseboard right?

Cuz it says baseboard for me

[plucky timber]

Uh

Sure

Must be a Chinese company

[twin stag]

Alright for the product and manufacturer it says ASUStek computer Inc and Prime B650M-A AX6 II

[plucky timber]

Alright

You should look up the product page for the motherboard

Actually I'll fetch it for you

[twin stag]

Thanks

[plucky timber]

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-b650m-a-ax6-ii/helpdesk_download?model2Name=PRIME-B650M-A-AX6-II

Scroll down until you see Bluetooth drivers

[twin stag]

Alr

I'll see if it works later

Thank you so much I really appreciate your help

[plucky timber]

Np

[rare plover]

Would it be okay if i replace it with a 7700xt or even a 7600xt if i dont have enough for the 7800xt

[tawny violet]

Don't downgrade your GPU for a fancy case

You can afford the 7800 XT, just not with a case that expensive

Cooler Master CM 301 Elite if you can find itű

3000D if that's not available

[rare plover]

Not for a case

If my budget is less than is enough for the 7800

[tawny violet]

What I meant was that you don't have the budget to spend big on a case

You have enough for that setup

We already did the math

the case is the only missing thing

[rare plover]

Yea for a budget of 6000 nis

[tawny violet]

7800XT fits it nicely

[rare plover]

But if it turns out to be less when i plan to buy it then i might have to downgrade the gpu, wont i?

[tawny violet]

I really wouldn't

[plucky timber]

I'd make a list when you have the money

the market can change a lot in a week

[tawny violet]

That is probably a good idea

[rare plover]

Alr

[forest lava]

This pc has been nothing less than a nightmare

Tried playing BF1 for the first time yesterday. Ended with my PC blacking out yet again and my fans running scarily loud until I shut it off. Now it yet again does not recognize my 6800 as a display device

Which means yet again I'm going to have to DDU, which only temporarily fixes the not recognized part

[analog hearth]

Man there's been a lot of AMD GPUs having black screen issues lately

[forest lava]

This one is a special case

[analog hearth]

What happens?

[forest lava]

So far, Hellblade: Senua's Saga, Modern Warfare II, Shadow of Mordor, and Battlefield 1 all have the effect of occasionally causing my PC to black out. By that I mean all graphical and audio output immediately ends and I'm pretty sure the computer itself stops receiving input to some degree, though I have heard that my friends in Discord calls still hear me when that happens

[cyan ravine]

Have you monitored the temps up to that point

[analog hearth]

Yeah that's been the case for a few others in this server as well, also Radeon GPUs iirc (at least most of them)

[cyan ravine]

Black screen > reboot on any modern card is often thermal issues

[analog hearth]

Actually, I think one of them was an Nvidia GPU. Potential Windows issue?

[forest lava]

I also get a weird screen tear issue I've described here before where if any game is running, whether it's Call of Duty or Hellblade or just Terraria or KovaaK's, causes any other application to getting really odd screen tearing. Essentially, if I had a game open now, and I click over to #general-chat, most of my screen would still look like what I see now on #building-and-recc-chat unless I tab out and in to update the full frame

[forest lava]

It doesn't reboot. I have to turn the pc off and back on again

Except sometimes (like right now in fact) it results in my 6800 not being recognized anymore

[forest lava]

I have not

Would amd software have logs of temps

[cyan ravine]

Download hwinfo 64 or leave adrenalin open when you run a game

If you see 110C or near that, then you need to repaste and that'll fix the issue

[forest lava]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

If not, you'll want to type into start "reliability report" open that up and check the red cross errors for what the logs say

[forest lava]

My idles right now is 45 degrees for my 7600x, is that bad?

[cyan ravine]

That's low if anything

Idle means nothing, it's the gaming temps we care about

[forest lava]

Alright

Well I have to ddu my pc then so I can run that test

[cyan ravine]

It's predominately an nvidia issue rn

[cyan ravine]

Ddu is always good to do

He's the tutorial if you need it

[forest lava]

I wish

[cyan ravine]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[forest lava]

I know how to ddu

This'll be my third time this month and 11th time total having to do it for this device

[cyan ravine]

Radeon crashing can mean anything without hints

It's often not even the gpu, ram can cause the problem

Gpu drivers are just the canary in the cage that dies in the process

[forest lava]

hm

[cyan ravine]

Need to investigate first

[forest lava]

How would I test the ram for this

[cyan ravine]

It's not off the table but there's a number of situations here

[cyan ravine]

Testmem5 is the best method

Check for gpu temps first tho

[forest lava]

Awesome, well I'll run the ddu then run this shortly after, then I'll run MWII or BF1 again to replicate the crash

[cyan ravine]

That's the easy one

[forest lava]

ah

[cyan ravine]

Ye

And take time with it man

Pc issues are aggravating

[forest lava]

They are

[cyan ravine]

I know it all too well lol

[forest lava]

I've been dealing with this since November

[cyan ravine]

Sounds painful

[forest lava]

It really has been. I find new games all the time I cannot play because of it

[cyan ravine]

My longest timeframe for fixing problems are about a year tho rn

[forest lava]

That sounds dreadful

[cyan ravine]

One of which is in fact similar to what's happening here

Learned a lot lol

[forest lava]

Hoping I can learn a lot from other people's pain before I suffer the same

[cyan ravine]

PC's are just fickle

They complain over one thing, and barely say why

Takes practice to know the golden answer straight away

[forest lava]

I feel like this is somehow related but I pretty much put this together the same way I did my last pc, except this time the boot times take forever

[cyan ravine]

Interesting

Noted

That could very well be related

You wouldn't happen to have a spare cpu power cable?

From the same psu

If not 2 plugged in?

Try swapping that

Even swapping them around

Horrendous cpu power can def cause these symptoms

[forest lava]

I can check but I had to leave much of my spare tech behind when I moved out

[cyan ravine]

Bad cables are common culprits

[forest lava]

Noted

[cyan ravine]

All good, replacements are like $15

[forest lava]

My PC just bluescreened while running ddu

[cyan ravine]

Ima be dipping shortly but yeah take time with this man, note the symptoms, I'm not the only helpful egg here

[cyan ravine]

That's sus

What did it say

[forest lava]

Normal bluescreen dialogue

[cyan ravine]

Did you see the error

Do you remember any of the words

[forest lava]

No, I had just stepped back in the room by the time it restarted

[cyan ravine]

Damn but it'll be in reliability report

Ok if you were mid ddu I'm actually more sus of the cpu now

So start menu "reliability report"

It'll be the one with the flag

It'll show you errors from the logs

[forest lava]

Copy

[cyan ravine]

Look for "hardware error"

Tell me what the codes are for those

[forest lava]

And just in case you end up leaving soon, how would I test the cpu?

[cyan ravine]

Event ID

[cyan ravine]

Testmem might tell enough

If not occt cpu small fft test

[forest lava]

I have this so far, not sure where else I'm meant to go considering everything is renamed on windows 11

[cyan ravine]

11 critical events

Investigate what all the red cross errors say

We want event id's

The event id's are hints at possible solutions

[forest lava]

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001e (0xffffffffc0000005, 0xfffff80d11efb131, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000060). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\031425-4421-01.dmp. Report Id: 63cdd54b-ae7b-4422-8d7b-bf2ad54481dc.

[cyan ravine]

Bugcheck

YES

Ok one moment

[forest lava]

Also while I was getting this information, my PC randomly switched over to the 6800 and started recognizing it again

Windows disconnect/reconnect sound, black screen and everything

[cyan ravine]

Ok kmode_exception_not_handled is the bugcheck

Huge

Huge hint

Remember when I said swap your cpu cable

[forest lava]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

This bugcheck is related to that

[cyan ravine]

These are your likely symptoms

Low imc voltage, unstable cpu, or overheating

Any other bugcheck errors?

Let's be thorough here

Then you'll have some more guidance

Then I'll dip lol

[forest lava]

Nothing on that note, just an error relating to "atieclxx" with some error codes, GOG Galaxy, and a "Windows shut down unexpectedly" with no error code

[cyan ravine]

Yep

Let's start with cpu

I'm quite sus

So change power cable (if possible)

[forest lava]

wait there's some older ones

[cyan ravine]

Remount cpu, repaste cpu

[forest lava]

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000133 (0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000500, 0x0000000000000500, 0xfffff8077f3c33a0). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\030425-8390-01.dmp. Report Id: 300aff00-9870-4be9-aba9-8d685c6a0d64.

[cyan ravine]

133 ok brb

[forest lava]

That one is from february though

[cyan ravine]

Dpc watchdog

Ram

Dpc watchdog violation is the system halting over a bad ram error

Your errors aren't coming up with anything gpu related yet

See if you see anything more

[forest lava]

That's all from all my existing error logs

[cyan ravine]

I see

So I'm very sus of cpu and now also ram

Tell me

Board

Cpu

[forest lava]

nevermind

[cyan ravine]

Ram

Which you got fam

[forest lava]

CPU: 7600x
RAM: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Board: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard

[cyan ravine]

M-p....

One sec

Ah.

Who suggested this combo to you?

There might be a more simple explanation than I thought here

If you can't remember it's ok

The picks aren't bad per se but if not set up properly I can imagine there being correlation

[forest lava]

I was recommended it by the nerdier tech guy in an old friend group

I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly who it was

[cyan ravine]

Not a bad suggestion he had but the 7600x iirc can make that board quite toasty

[forest lava]

He works with computers so I trusted his opinion on it

[cyan ravine]

So my initial thoughts here are this

#1 take a break from the bad pc problems lol

Go watch a movie

[forest lava]

I've been putting this off to avoid the stress for like two weeks now lol

I should watch a movie though

[cyan ravine]

I am both saying it for you and also me who needs to sleep for work 😂

Others will be online soon

[forest lava]

ofc ofc

Thank you for taking your time to help me out by the way

[cyan ravine]

It's ok man

When you see guys like Fal in chat or maybe mr1111

Give them an ask if I'm not here

[forest lava]

Alrighty

[cyan ravine]

Tell them "Felix says test cpu, ram and eps"

They'll know what to do

[forest lava]

Got it

Thanks again

[cyan ravine]

If you find an error with any of that, you'll know what to fix

Np man

Takes knowing a thousand computers to nail these things

Not surprised you've had this for a while it's not easy stuff

There's no easy manual lol

Anyway go watch idk deadpool v wolverine, come back, the others should be around

[forest lava]

Copy, I'll be around then

[cyan ravine]

[forest lava]

Good night 🫡

[cyan ravine]

No worries mate

👋

[forest lava]

Saving this here for reference (temps while running max graphics mwii, one of the affected games)

[wild oxide]

is this a good pc build (still planning)? i'm using it for game dev and some gaming with asthetics in mind: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sw3ZGJ

[stoic island]

Well uh the nf-a14 seems very out of place for aesthetics lol

[dusky hearth]

40 bucks for a GPU bracket is crazy

[stoic island]

Would try looking towards getting a 9900x/x3d for that

[tall shard]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nqvVb2

good?

[wild oxide]

it's with the fractal north xl case

[wild oxide]

only simple one i could find

[stoic island]

Yea, the north has a wood look, beige doesn't fit in with wood, the beige frame is pretty light and would stand out as something that's not white and not brown

[wild oxide]

any other recommendations?

[stoic island]

Aesthetics are all up to you, Noctua just doesn't really fit in with aesthetics

[wild oxide]

ok

what about the rest of the build/

[stoic island]

I'd look at swapping the CPU for something else, depending on budget, 9900x3d for game dev and gaming should be great

I'd swap the GPU too when availability is there

[mossy venture]

You open to a used gpu?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126933488075?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[tall shard]

uhh

[mossy venture]

And id do
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zfGhP6/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii750g-bkcus

Could also do this
https://computers.woot.com/offers/cooler-master-elite-301-micro-atx-high-airflow-pc-case-1

Theres also a 2080 super refurb for $250 from newegg

[tall shard]

already got a case but i can go gpu searching

[mossy venture]

Also a $100 12600kf or $135 7600x from newegg

Both refurb

[tall shard]

is the ssd in my build fine

i was thinking of that and the crucial p3 plus

[mossy venture]

Yeah the c910 is good

[tall shard]

ram as well

?

[mossy venture]

Marginally better than the p3 plus although it'd be identical in games

You can save abt $10 or so going non rgb but yeah it's fine

[tall shard]

cus i got the vengance lpx and im returning it for the other one

[mossy venture]

Vengeance is dog

Corsair is the one brand to avoid for ram

[tall shard]

and returning this too

bought it a little to quickly

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8gZZGJ

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-12600kf-core-i5-12th-gen-alder-lake-p-core-base-frequency-3-7-ghz-e-core-base-frequency-2-8-ghz-lga-1700-processor-base-power-125w-maximum-turbo-power-150w-desktop-processor/p/N82E16819118349T?Item=N82E16819118349T

[tall shard]

already have the cpu

[mossy venture]

Oof

[tall shard]

and mobo

[pseudo pollen]

yo I have a question abt this, for the microcenter bundle deals, which brand is worse, gskill or corsair?

I see bad reviews about both of them all the time

[mossy venture]

G.skill is fine

They had some issues with early ddr5 heatspreaders falling off their tridentz kit but I believe it's fixed

Corsair sucks

[dusky hearth]

gskill>>>>>>>>corsair

[pseudo pollen]

I know that specifically mc bundle gskill flare x5 ram kits have problems, and even within this server I've seen people have problems with DOA and stability

[dusky hearth]

hmm

[mossy venture]

I believe that's just if the expo is missing a timing for AMD

For the stability issue

[pseudo pollen]

Yeah most of the reviews just report blue screens, not running at full speeds, and lagging

*most of the bad reviews

[mossy venture]

Not sure about doa, I feel like the kit is just very common because it's typically in the bundles

Bigger sample size more likely to find more people with doa issues

[pseudo pollen]

I feel like it's not only that, there's something about the kit itself

[stoic island]

It's likely just something being misconfigured, Corsair is hardware limiting you :p

Likely expo is misconfigured on it

[pseudo pollen]

The pc I'm thinking of is for someone who knows basically nothing about pcs, and I don't want them to have to deal with problems like that from parts I pick

[lean anchor]

Anyone have a good recommendation for antennas for my Wifi adaptor, My B650E came with an antenna, but I would rather have something smaller that doesn't have cables 😛

[pseudo pollen]

ethernet would be best, something that doesn't have cables will likely have a worse signal strength though

[stoic island]

You can literally use aluminum foil, basically anything works lol

[lean anchor]

Would rather not make a tin foil hat for my PC lol

[stoic island]

Yea I mean anything aftermarket should work

Not encouraging you to actually use aluminum foil

[lean anchor]

Yeah I'm, aware, I rent a room and said I would install and route the lines through the walls, but the owner is refusing to do that and doesn't want me to have a nice hardwire...

[pseudo pollen]

you could try powerline ethernet adapters

[lean anchor]

From what I'm reading though I probably wouldn't reach the speeds that I get via the wifi on a powerline though. That and I really have no faith in the company that built the home -_-

With that said, I'll just stick with it I suppose...

[pseudo pollen]

it's a possibility that you won't get as high speeds (really depends on your distance from the router), but it's more about stability and ping

you could just get some random screw on antennae for the back of your mobo for under $10

[lean anchor]

Direct distance is roughly 15 ft, but there are walls and such between it and the PC, but wiring wise there's a whole room, and lights between the router and I, so no telling. As for the screw on antenna I was looking into them, but none of them stand out as far as reviews, loads of them have connectivity issues and no telling with my situation. so yeah I'll just stay with it I suppose.

[pseudo pollen]

I've used powerline ethernet across an entire house (60-70ft) and down a floor, worked perfectly

[tawny violet]

I can second powerline being really good

Just make sure your power isn't wacky or unstable

[pseudo pollen]

the antenna are legitimately just a piece of wire with a housing, it doesn't really matter which one you get if you go that way

[lean anchor]

I have lost power here more than I did when I was anywhere else in the last 10 years. To many accidents where I live currently involving power lines...

[pseudo pollen]

to be fair, you don't have internet when the power goes out either, so it's not like you're getting any more up-time

[lean anchor]

I'll give them a shot then, worst case Amazon gets a return I suppose.

[zenith cargo]

Anything else I need to do other than having a bootable sub drive when switching motherboards n cpu>

?

[chilly pilot]

Can someone help me with my setup, just switched my CPU and ram and im getting some errors

[plucky timber]

What motherboard do you have currently? What is your previous and current cpu?

And also what is your ram specifications?

Both previous and current

[chilly pilot]

I have the MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with AMD Ryzen 7 5800XT 8-Core Processor, Discrete Graphics, 8 Core, 16 Thread, 105W AM4 36MB - Silver (currently)

Previously I had the same motherboard with AMD Ryzen 5 3rd Gen - RYZEN 5 3600 Matisse (Zen 2) 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W 100-100000031BOX Desktop Processor

Are they not compatible?

[mossy venture]

Clear cmos

And you probably need a bios update

[chilly pilot]

Also nothing is appearing on screen, I just get a black screen

[mossy venture]

Yes

[mossy venture]

.

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[chilly pilot]

I tried clearing the cmos both ways and still end up with a black screen

[dusky hearth]

did you update the bios

[chilly pilot]

I get a black screen

[stoic island]

Have you used flashback?

[chilly pilot]

The bios flash?

I push the button but nothing happens

[stoic island]

Have you followed the instructions? Correct USB slot and renamed the file?

[chilly pilot]

USB?

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/K5aFhNh_u4U?si=6xzkYgtr4QnHglyZ

[stable cove]

I might need to start using my sata cables to buy a storage drive for my pc with at least 4 terrabytes

Anyone know where I can find a storage drive at to put into my pc?

[chilly pilot]

I will attempt this tomorrow

[forest lava]

This is always a nice thing to come home to (I have never seen this before and I'm scared)

[zenith cargo]

wish me luck

(first time)

[zenith cargo]

bro

i gave away the motherboard screws

[stable cove]

There any consequences for picking a 8tb hard drive instead of a 4tb one for my pc?

[cyan ravine]

Try a different monitor cable

[forest lava]

Restart fixed it

[forest lava]

You might have to suffer from a horrible case of 100% more storage

[stable cove]

And that’s bad how?

I just need a hard drive for storage because I might run out of space on my pc of if I don’t

[zenith cargo]

should it wobble like that?

something was off about my motherboard

unsealed package

light scratches

[stoic island]

That should usually be screwed down