building-and-recc-chat

[onyx oxide]

but you may be right

[broken barn]

mini pc is crazy

LOL

[dusky hearth]

https://www.amazon.com/KAMRUI-Windows-Desktop-Computer-Ethernet/dp/B099KSJN8P if you have prime, this might be good
though this is a n100 so it's a bit of a weaker processor, so it's probably not gonna run many if any games locally, but should be able to stream movies and games

[dusky hearth]

they want a pc for their tv

honestly looking at the prices for mini pcs im starting to think we should go back to the 2nd idea i had earlier lol

steam deck with dock

[broken barn]

ohhh

so just for watching videos

fire ngl

[onyx oxide]

what if not all my games are steam? what if they are in stupid side things like GOG Galaxy?

[dusky hearth]

steamdeck isnt limited to just steam games

it is more akin to a minipc with a screen and controller, than it is to a typical console

you can even flash windows onto it and it's officially supported

[onyx oxide]

so it's a switch steam machine pretty much?

[dusky hearth]

(steamos is based on arch linux)

yeah pretty much

https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck

well, their tagline is certainly inaccurate lol

"most powerful"

ignoring that, it is a very good option, and you can even play games while on the go if you go on vacation and such

and it's repairable with only a screwdriver

(replacement parts are availiable on ifixit)

overall great value

especially compared to these minipcs lol

all the 3 tiers of the steam deck have the same performance

but i would probably recommend the middle tier since it has oled and that does make a fair bit of difference (and it has slightly better battery life)

[onyx oxide]

hmmmm... interesting

[manic cloak]

alright last question, US right?

• I'm guessing you're going for all black build

[weary galleon]

Whoa whoa whoa let's not slander gog

[broken barn]

yes us, and the looks honestly don’t matter

oh shi i realized i had a gpu in there, just ignore that

[manic cloak]

gog kinda mid.. (never played or watched it)

[weary galleon]

...

[manic cloak]

jokes 😭

@broken barn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gmwxTM imo what you should get, if you want it switched up I can do that

the 7800xt is a placeholder for the 9070/xt, it's about the same price and to supposedly be better than the 7900xtx

[mossy venture]

Nzxt :c

[manic cloak]

is the motherboard not good? 😭 also psu prices are not so good rn

[mossy venture]

The mobo is decent but I still don't like supporting nzxt with their recent shenanigans

And personally I'd save the $40
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FDJp99/msi-pro-z790-s-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-s-wifi

[manic cloak]

I didn't even see that tbh

[mossy venture]

This is good but non mod
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VHfxFT/asrock-challenger-cl-850g-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-cl-850g

Otherwise
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BqYRsY/super-flower-zillion-fg-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850z12fg

[manic cloak]

I did link an asrock motherboard in there aswell but MSI it is

[mossy venture]

I really dislike msi bios I wonder how bad nzxts is

I've not seen an nzxt software with a good layout

[broken barn]

bacca may u help me

[manic cloak]

I just realized NZXT's board has like 3 USB ports, one USB C

also PCPP has the wrong price for newegg unless you price match which I don't think they do

[mossy venture]

Wsp

[broken barn]

so the 3080ti refurb is gone, i want maybe something non refurbished so i can get it whenever i want

can you find me any good gpu’s for productivity, live audio, exporting stuff, multitasking, hella chrome tabs, and gaming here and there? (most realistically probably fortnite)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jk2XMC

also i changed the cpu, so perhaps maybe you can find me a mobo that has at least 5 usb ports, 2 audio jacks, at least one usb type c, with, and ethernet? thank you super much for helping me

[mossy venture]

5070 ti

For workstation use you prolly need nvidia

Theres no good options new whatsoever right now.

[broken barn]

that’s like 1k+

how’s a 3060 12gb

[sage thunder]

it would be same brand and would be half the price though

[mossy venture]

If you're targeting 1080p medium settings and don't care it's awful value, go for it

[broken barn]

what about a 4060

only $350

[mossy venture]

Same thing

And it should be $300, that's it's MSRP

It really should be $250 but yknkw

Nvidia things

Also the bus width on the 4060 is gimped

It'll affect workstation use very notably

[tender apex]

Should I get a 4060 8GB 128-bit to play rivals?

I'm currently running a Ryzen 5 2600 six-core processor,1650 super, and 32 GB RAM (ddr4, recently upgraded from 16) and get at least 20-80 frames (It fluctuates weirdly) I'm looking to upgrade but I don't know if the 4060 is a good option when trying to upgrade to a game like this. I was also wondering if my processor would bottleneck my performance. I am wondering if the upgrade is worth it to get a better performance on this game.

[analog hearth]

I would try to go for both, a CPU upgrade along with a GPU upgrade. It's hard to say to just get a CPU upgrade, given your GPU, but you'd still have very meh performance given that GPU, even after a CPU upgrade

[tender apex]

is the 4060 that mid?

[tawny violet]

It ain't even mid
It's just bad

[tender apex]

Ok, so what would you recommend me to upgrade to?

[tawny violet]

I'd personally recommend a 7800 XT
Or a 9070

Depending on what's available for you

[analog hearth]

Get something like a 7600 XT (iirc, I think they're comparable? Plus the 7600 XT has more memory anyways. That's if you're looking for something in the price range of a 4060 8GB)

[tawny violet]

Maybe 9070 XT if you're willing to go for it

[analog hearth]

But yeah I agree with blackhole. Just go for a 9070 when they release

[tender apex]

I will not lie to you, I'm really upgrading just so I can play this game

So any upgrade that helps me actually SEE the game im fine with that

[analog hearth]

yeah I'd say go for a better CPU along with a better GPU (just upgrade both). Just one won't be enough

I guess you can get a new GPU first, but increase the settings to leverage the GPU so that CPU doesn't bottleneck it

But definitely get a better CPU soon after lol

I've recently upgraded my gf from her RX 5700 and i3 12100F (about 3700X performance) to a 6800 XT and a 5900X and it's done wonders to her gaming experience

[tawny violet]

5700X3D and a 9070 will be good

[tender apex]

Ok so I would get these three things.

-New Power supply (400 watt so I would have to get this first)

• New GPU
  -New Cpu

[tawny violet]

Amazing even

[tender apex]

ryzen 7?

Right?

[tawny violet]

Ye

[tender apex]

ok cool

[analog hearth]

Yeah definitely upgrade that PSU first before anything lol

[tawny violet]

It's the (almost) best AM4 gaming CPU

5800X3D technically beats it but olly because the 5700X3D is a slightly downclocked 5800X3D effectively

[analog hearth]

Yeah I was just about to ask lol

[tawny violet]

It's like

[tender apex]

How much will the 9070 cost on release?

[tawny violet]

550

So you might be better off actually going to the 9070 XT at 600

Or wait for the 9070 to drop in price

[analog hearth]

Or save $50 and OC the 9070 lol

(It's basically just a binned 9070 XT iirc)

[tawny violet]

Probably yeah

The point stand tho

[analog hearth]

I might actually get a 9070 XT if it's better than my 4070 Super. I wanna see benchmarks first though

[tawny violet]

New PSU (a nice 750 watt that's like rated well by SPL list)
5700X3D (cuz you can still get it new with warranty)
And a 9070

[tender apex]

I'm looking at the RX 7600 its more in my price range I will not lie.

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-RX7600-SL-8GO-Graphics/dp/B0C6HTVV52/ref=sr_1_5?crid=1GRTMJY1A7LJ5&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dhcbtX66D8g6JPuqqZmlyVv0K8aZecmgYuJ_gDSbamrF3HoeodLSzIdDe0jb5jPSfENkf5EbJbmVGq7_N_xC4bs8ZaFgx-0ynWwXmwfOI9OGCvCLGTZwbIyaXGbCmMG6mijtoy6p-ErMuzlmIug_y0ICV6jhGDDKgr_9UKHJZzgcS5NIeMpAvcW0-VrRA8vb9I0d5fVOo7lV31U1GpTBP-88Yq7_3TJtYrcngpCqIF_gYpD4BsKtGxC3rJBxcTb3zJtYzUsofO53PPy1bUzfH8MShi7_vfTEF9EhvH4IVNnwzAz8jSho1WJGa-0hstv4isac_0kkEM--hq-NRvt0rfsI2OqYdXzdmO5tu0sG9ow.movQrW1LS0CqPhkfTi6vbQZfC6xDuC5kgi2IKm28B7s&dib_tag=se&keywords=7600%2BXT&qid=1741031387&s=electronics&sprefix=7600%2Bxt%2Celectronics%2C185&sr=1-5&th=1

[tawny violet]

And you'll be set for at least 5 years

[tender apex]

wicked links

[tawny violet]

About as convoluted as my love life lol

[tender apex]

the 5700X3D actually isnt that expensive

Wow

[analog hearth]

Stretch your budget slightly more and get a 7600 XT. You'll have double the VRAM if you go that route

[tender apex]

16 right?

[analog hearth]

yeah

[tawny violet]

What's a 7600 XT again?

[analog hearth]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7600-xt.c4190

[tawny violet]

In terms of price

I know what card it is smartbutts

[analog hearth]

About the same as a 4060 8GB I think

[tawny violet]

:3

[analog hearth]

lol

[tender apex]

350 from what im looking at

[tawny violet]

Ewwwww

[analog hearth]

Like slightly more

[tawny violet]

That's actually awful value

[analog hearth]

yeah 💀

Get a 6800 XT now that I think about it

If they're not more than $400

[tawny violet]

I wouldn't buy it even if I had a gun to my head

[tawny violet]

Or a 6700 XT that's faster for less lmao

[tender apex]

the 6800 xt is better than the rx 7600?

[analog hearth]

Yeah

[tawny violet]

Vastly

Even the 6700XT I have rn is faster than the 7600s

[tender apex]

mb ive just been a nvidia person so amd is new territory

[analog hearth]

I just stuck one in my gf's PC and now I won't have to upgrade her for the next few years, despite the GPU being a couple years old atp

[analog hearth]

you're good lol. Welcome to the good side

[tawny violet]

Yeah 6800 XT is goated

I wanna get one it's so good

And I already have an okay GPU

[analog hearth]

Best used GPU you can get rn fr lol

[tawny violet]

Easil

[analog hearth]

Especially if you're like me and have a friend with a 4080 Super and he had to sell his 6800 XT (his previous GPU), letting you buy it for $200 haha

[tender apex]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235987798606?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=qenxdcvrtrg&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=u6msgedtsm6&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

6700 xt i seen on ebay

[analog hearth]

Probably still better than a 7600 XT I'd imagine

If not matching(?)

[broken barn]

what is it

[analog hearth]

6800 XT

You can easily still get a high frame rate in most games with it

But honestly given demand (in the used market ofc), just wait for the 9070

Sometimes they go for like $500 (at least where I've seen)

[tender apex]

just seen a 850 watt psu go for 70 dollars

wth

[analog hearth]

Yikes

[mossy venture]

Yes better

[analog hearth]

Make sure you check the tier list on that

[mossy venture]

The asrock gold one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VHfxFT/asrock-challenger-cl-850g-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-cl-850g

$70 after rebate, A tier

[broken barn]

is it good for workstation use

[tender apex]

jesus

[analog hearth]

It's mostly for gaming but I guess?

[tender apex]

MAG A850GL PCIE5 850w

[analog hearth]

Idk I don't do workstations. Only servers and gaming PCs

[mossy venture]

This is decent, but you'd want to power limit it with msi afterburner (very easy)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126973040477?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[analog hearth]

Pulling out a 2080 Ti is crazy lol

[mossy venture]

I have a 2080 ti with the same cooler and it runs almost as hot, so it's not abnormal to need to power limit it

[tender apex]

If anything lets me play rivals smoothly im fine with it

[analog hearth]

Yeah just get that 2080 Ti lol

[mossy venture]

I can show you how to use msi afterburner too

Or if you want a cheaper option that'll run any game
https://www.ebay.com/itm/125129230053?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

There's also a $116 1080 from the same seller, bit worse than the 5700

[analog hearth]

Go for a 5700 XT though

[mossy venture]

Its the same gpu with a vbios flash

Although idk how to flash vbios, I'm sure there's a tutorial for it

[analog hearth]

Are we sure it's an a-tier PSU though? I'm not seeing it on the tier list. Unless there's a new one I'm not familiar with?

[mossy venture]

Check pins in psus chat

There's a new list

[analog hearth]

Oh gotcha

[mossy venture]

Very detailed too

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-67xtyjfdv/p/N82E16814150852T?Item=N82E16814150852T

[tender apex]

Do I just weigh my options between

5700 xt (150$)
6700 xt (265$)
4060 (308$)
2080 (269$)

[mossy venture]

Get that over the 2080 ti

[mossy venture]

$260 6700xt

Id grab that one

[broken barn]

do you happen to know any good used workstation gpu’s that also do decent in games near fortnite, maybe near $500

[tender apex]

Ok, cool im getting the 6700 xt

[analog hearth]

I don't do workstations

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-12g-p5-3955-kr/p/N82E16814487548T?Item=N82E16814487548T

[tender apex]

Seems like the best option for me

[mossy venture]

Can you link the $265 one rq?

[broken barn]

YOO ITS BACK UP

[tender apex]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235987798606?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=qenxdcvrtrg&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=u6msgedtsm6&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[mossy venture]

I wanna check the seller rq, if might be better than the one on newegg

[broken barn]

does it often go back up on sale?

[mossy venture]

Eh nvm

[mossy venture]

No clue how long it will continue to

But its been a few times

YOOOO

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-24g-p5-3987-kr/p/N82E16814487526T?Item=N82E16814487526T

$650 3090

[tender apex]

thats cheap? 💀

[mossy venture]

For a 3090 yes

Cheapest way to get 24gb vram for workstation needs

[tender apex]

oh hell no

LOL

[mossy venture]

I'm not suggesting it for you lol

Other dude above is looking for a gpu too

[tender apex]

nah im just sayin my wallet would be burned through if i spent 650 on a gpu

LOL

[analog hearth]

OOS 😭

I want one for AI purposes too

man rip

[mossy venture]

Rip

[severe matrix]

I have a couple questions guys, if you don't mind:
I'm kinda new to this, but I was using this site: https://psuprices.org/ to get a good power supply (looking for 850W+)

I saw this one, cheapest + it's "A+": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D39JD1G?th=1

Do you guys think this will be good for a future upgrade? I know it's "Refurbished - Excellent", so technically it really isn't "Used" but rather someone either returned it or maybe some scratches on it right?

And even if it does go bad, it still comes with the 10 year Warranty, so I'm good? (i believe)

"""
Refurbished - Excellent
Screen: When present, no scratches.
Body: No signs of cosmetic damage (scratches, dents, and other) are visible when the product is held 12 inches away.
Battery: When included, batteries have a capacity that exceeds 80% of the original battery life.
Accessories: Generic or original equipment manufacturer accessories and packaging provided.
Guarantee: 90-day Amazon Renewed Guarantee (or within 1-year of receipt of a Renewed Automotive product).
"""

I'm planning on getting the 9070xt comin this month, do you guys believe this will be sufficient and well enough to support it

I've heard of stuff like 12xhpr cables or something, what are those? And also single, double rail, multirail, etc. Does this PSU have the good stuff in it, or should I look for something else?

Rn, i have a 650W psu, that's like 4yrs old. I get constant crashes (game freezes, pc goes black, pc restarts on own). So, probs the PSU my problem then right?

I doubt it can support a 9070xt + 3700x combo right, which is what i'll have soon. (rn have 6700xt)

Thoughts? sorry for the essay lol too btw

[mossy venture]

$450 6900xt if you dont need nvidia https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-rx6900xt-ocf-16g/p/N82E16814930057T?Item=N82E16814930057T

$290 2080 ti https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-001K-003E4T?Item=1FT-001K-003E4T

[mossy venture]

@severe matrix

Id just grab this

[mossy venture]

Both alr oos too lol

@analog hearth would 2 3060 12gb work for you?

You can prob fine some under $200

[analog hearth]

Idk if I would need an SLI bridge if I'm doing Stable Diffusion

I'd be doing Stable Diffusion (automatic1111) and LLMs

But yeah I could put them in the same system

[mossy venture]

Idt you'd need sli but I don't mess with ai at all

Who's that dude in general chat who does

You could ask him

Sytan?

[analog hearth]

ehh having a full 24GB would be nice though

[mossy venture]

And they're both back in stock

[analog hearth]

hmmm

I also might be buying a car within a couple weeks

I might have another route honestly:

• My 6800 XT for LLMs specifically (can't get it to work cleanly with any other AI image generation)
• I can use my 4070 Super for the AI image generation if I upgrade to a 9070 (XT)

That's also only if the 9070 (XT) will be better than my 4070 Super

The image generation performance I get on my 4070 Super is good enough for me. And I can use my 6800 (spare GPU btw) for LM Studio (running it as a server)

Two-GPU multi-system setup but I'd be fine with it

Unless I can put it all in the same system lol but that would be crazy lmao

Idk I just have to mess with it

Not to mention I want to work with flows in my self hosting space if I can get it all working

[mossy venture]

Wait https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-24g-p5-3987-kr/p/N82E16814487526T?Item=N82E16814487526T

It says it's back

Nope nvm

Went back oos

Sorry

[analog hearth]

lolll

somebody is scalping this GPU lmao

Could I trust that listing though?

[mossy venture]

Yeah its newegg themselves

[analog hearth]

I might just Affirm it since I'm buying a car soon lmao

oh of course

[mossy venture]

That said it's also newegg themselves lmao

Their refurbs don't have the best history

[analog hearth]

I set notifications 💀

24GB on an Nvidia GPU would be suuuper nice for what I'm going for

That would be crazy to own an EVGA RTX GPU too lol

Man I should've bought one up when they were $500 on eBay

[severe matrix]

i see, i also asked this question in another discord, got this
https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Efficiency-Zero-RPM-Hexagonal/dp/B0D68TLYKR?crid=2F1FPE127LEBT&s=electronics&sprefix=%2Celectronics%2C341&sr=1-1&th=1

now here's yours:
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-pg-1300g-1300-w-80-plus-gold-certified/p/N82E16817955014

Any big differences, both B tier I believe. Which would be better? Also, I'm mainly looking for good warranty support too, so Cooler Master vs ASRock?

but yours is 850W, so would that be better for 9070xt + 5700x3d combo?

[analog hearth]

Yes 850W would be better

[severe matrix]

i see

[analog hearth]

Also for upgrading in the future

[severe matrix]

do u know anything about their respective warranty support?

i got bitfenix rn, and it's just horrible

no responses

[analog hearth]

I wouldn't know but I'm sure it's on each of their sites

[severe matrix]

i mean like whether they respond, whether they respond fast, etc. i doubt they'll list their warranty support is bad

for both

[analog hearth]

Oh, no I wouldn't know

[severe matrix]

ah ok

ty anyways

[mossy venture]

This is also fine
https://www.ebay.com/itm/116315071773?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[severe matrix]

Hi again, someone gave me this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQWW8K7?th=1

best one?

A+

Pretty cheaper or so

Thing is, it's not 3.0

[mossy venture]

It functionally will not matter over the asrock one

[severe matrix]

is that a problem

[mossy venture]

If you want to spend the money sure

Actually the 850w is a better option

[severe matrix]

I'm just looking for the best quality to ensure my house doesn't blow up

Asrock?

or the one

i gave

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQWW8K7?th=1

[mossy venture]

There is no blowing up above D tier

[severe matrix]

Im willing to spend

more like 20 bucksd

[mossy venture]

Even E tier normally doesn't explode

[severe matrix]

just joking lol

i mean like my PC blowing up

well

not making my PC break

there we go

[mossy venture]

I lied the asrock is B+, which is still fine, but if you want better here
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5

B+ is still fine for you tho

9070xt looks to be much more conservative than the xtx power wise, and that's fine on a decent 850w

[severe matrix]

ah ok nice

i was worrying about cable burns and stuff

i heard about the 5090

[severe matrix]

i think imma go with this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQWW8K7/?ref_=cm_wl_huc_item&th=1

It's A+, compared to yours, B.

And cheaper

thoughts?

o wait its 750W

well this one

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQVP6SS/?ref_=cm_wl_huc_item&th=1

10 bucks more

[mossy venture]

Thats fine

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TnCZxr/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii1000g-bkcus

1000w is $10 more

[floral flame]

can anyone help me find a prebuilt that is cracked for $1000?

[plucky timber]

Prebuilt and "cracked" generally does not go together

[floral flame]

lmao i know but the best one for the dollar

[plucky timber]

You're usually getting ripped off

[floral flame]

can you help me create one from scratch?

[plucky timber]

Oh so you're fine with a custom built?

[floral flame]

yeah

[plucky timber]

Ok great

[floral flame]

just trying to stay at the 1k mark

[plucky timber]

wifi?

[floral flame]

wdym ?

[plucky timber]

do you need the motherboard to support wifi?

[floral flame]

yes

[plucky timber]

I do have to warn you tho

the gpu market is really inflated at the moment

[floral flame]

not surprised

[serene onyx]

Guys

What do yall think?

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6mYfd first draft

gonna shave off the budget

are you ok with using aliexpress?

[serene onyx]

It works but he couldn’t install drivers?

[serene onyx]

Me?

[plucky timber]

could be a skill issue

[plucky timber]

no the other guy

[serene onyx]

Yeah I was thinking the same

Im genuinely thinking this dude doesn’t know what he’s doing

[plucky timber]

no

the guy asking for build help

[serene onyx]

He’s selling the Gpu hella cheap too

Yes

[plucky timber]

@floral flame are you ok with buying your cpu from aliexpress?

[serene onyx]

AliExpress has banger deals

[floral flame]

should i be worried if i do?

[serene onyx]

No

You’ll be fine

[plucky timber]

aliexpress is pretty much as safe as amazon

[serene onyx]

We can help you find a legit listing

[floral flame]

what about the gpu?

[plucky timber]

uhhh

[serene onyx]

Gpu idk

[plucky timber]

yeah 💀

[serene onyx]

Stick to Amazon

😭

For Gpu

[plucky timber]

or newegg

[serene onyx]

Yeah

CPU you will be 100% fine getting on AliExpress

[plucky timber]

gonna try looking for bundles

[serene onyx]

I’ve bought CPUs previously all work fine

[plucky timber]

$1k budget pcs used to be so much easier

thanks nvidia

[floral flame]

is radeon gpu better than nvidia?

[serene onyx]

I found a mobo, r5 2600, and 16gb combo for 90$ yesterday

[plucky timber]

better price/performance

[plucky timber]

eh zen+

[serene onyx]

Radeon is so much better for the price

[plucky timber]

kinda mid

[floral flame]

so yes lol?

[plucky timber]

I mean it's not better from a strictly performance perspective

[serene onyx]

NVIDIA charges you more for looks

[plucky timber]

but you're getting better value for money

[serene onyx]

Radeon

Give you more power and performance for less

[plucky timber]

that depends on the gpu

generally that's true but

[serene onyx]

Budget pcs should genuinely be mostly amd imo

[plucky timber]

it also depends on the market condition

[floral flame]

ive onyl ever dealt with nvidia. im making this computer for a friend. he wants it similar to mine

[plucky timber]

which right now is absolutely crap

[serene onyx]

Yeah that too

[floral flame]

are there any key difference between the two?

[serene onyx]

No

[plucky timber]

yes

[serene onyx]

Well I mean

Eh

Just the app

😭

[plucky timber]

the ray tracing technology on radeon is generally a generation behind

[serene onyx]

That

Yeah

[plucky timber]

but for general gaming performance they can be on par

[serene onyx]

It’s not a big deal unless you are a massive ray tracing nerd

[plucky timber]

here's an outdated graph

you used to be able to get a 7900 XT for the price of a 4070 Super

[floral flame]

for this gpu = XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core 2 Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card. what nvidia card would be in the same category?

[serene onyx]

Like the 4070 right?

[plucky timber]

see reference graph

[serene onyx]

I could be wrong

[plucky timber]

yes

between 70 and 70 super

[serene onyx]

Yeah

It’s a really good card

Even the 6800 XT is still really good

Both solid cards

For 1440p gaming

[plucky timber]

damn these bundles are hot garbage

[serene onyx]

Yeah they are

Unless you are looking for super low end bundles

Some decent stuff

[plucky timber]

yeah I gave the $650 guy the 5500 bundle

[serene onyx]

W

[plucky timber]

not sure if he ever looked at it

[serene onyx]

Hopefully

I’m trying to build a pc for my gf for as cheap as possible

So far doing pretty good

[plucky timber]

I might be able to help optimise the list a bit after this

[serene onyx]

Got a PSU, mobo, and placeholder Gpu (temp) and a cooler for 30$

[plucky timber]

all for $30?

sweet

[serene onyx]

YESSIRR

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WVHwDj

$90 to go

ughh I hate this market

[serene onyx]

I found a R5 3600 for 10$ earlier had 1 bent pin

Dude sold it before he could respond to me

I was so mad

Listing was up for an hour

You think you can maybe find a cpu and ram combo? 🤔

Less than 100$

Trying to stay less than 300$

[plucky timber]

there's the 5500 + board bundle

oh wait

I mean you can probably get a used 3600 and b450

[serene onyx]

Yeah I have the mobo already 🙁

Maybe

[plucky timber]

oh

[serene onyx]

Send link

[plucky timber]

used 5600 maybe too

nah I'm working on this build

plus you'd probably be able to find better deals in your local area

used markets can be region specific a lot of times

[serene onyx]

Ur right

Ur right

Have been searching local markets for weeks

I’ve been close a few times

[plucky timber]

I might phone a friend

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WVHwDj @mossy venture hey, can I get your opinion on this?

1k budget gaming pc, list is $90 overbudget

[weary galleon]

Not sure if you'll shave a full $90 without downgrading gpu or going used

Could opt for single tower cooler and save a little

[plucky timber]

true

the market is just that bad eh?

[weary galleon]

Gpu market is terrible rn

[mossy venture]

7600x and b650m gaming wifi are $370 together on newegg

The cpu has a free 1tb ssd, the mobo has a free 16gb stick of ram

Let me make a whole list

[plucky timber]

wait what?

oooooo

[weary galleon]

Yeh my ass does not stay up to date with bundles lol

[plucky timber]

how did you find the bundle btw

for future reference

I've only been able to find the 5500 one

[serene onyx]

Same here 😭

[serene onyx]

W

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/frXxTM

[plucky timber]

based

[mossy venture]

You'd want to buy a second stick of the same ddr5, whether now or later

Let me find a decent priced gpu

[plucky timber]

what ram does it use?

does it specify or

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-rx6900xt-ocf-16g/p/N82E16814930057T

[plucky timber]

link is broken

[mossy venture]

Oh ew

Its 2x8

[plucky timber]

ehhhh

[mossy venture]

Well the ram is kinda useless

You could resell it

[lone flame]

May the glorious 9070s save us

[mossy venture]

Or just get a diff mobo without the ram

[mossy venture]

Honestly just look in #tech-deals for gpu options, there's tons

$290 2080 ti is solid

[plucky timber]

it's the other guy

[mossy venture]

Or $260-270 6700xt

[plucky timber]

that needs a gpu

[mossy venture]

Oh

[lone flame]

The OC 6900s from Asrocks have such unique cooler designs i love the green on them

[mossy venture]

@floral flame

[plucky timber]

I mean there's like a $400 headroom

for a gpu

the problem is that there aren't any

[weary galleon]

Is 6900xt ok on a 650W psu?

[mossy venture]

Oh wait no I used an xpg kyber 750 again

And it only has 1 8pin

Don't use the psu in that list

[plucky timber]

what the hell?

why?

750 with a single 8 pin?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3RbqNz

[lone flame]

If it’s a high rated PSU and your cpu doesn’t draw much probably

[mossy venture]

Yeah 1 12vpwhr and 1 8 pin

It really ruined me suggesting the kyber

[lone flame]

I personally wouldn’t run a 650 tho

[weary galleon]

Bacca changed it to an 850

[mossy venture]

B+ tier

[lone flame]

Oh I didn’t realize yall were making a list mb

I just popped in on my phone

[weary galleon]

$40 saved and gpu bumped from 7800xt to 6900xt

Bacca is cooking

[mossy venture]

For cheaper id just drop the gpu to a $290 2080 ti

[lone flame]

Deal master list maker bacca

[mossy venture]

Or swap to the gigabyte b650, use the 2x8 ram until you can upgrade

[plucky timber]

hold up

[mossy venture]

You forgot the no life at the beginning

[lone flame]

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ThJYfd

this shaves it down sightly

[mossy venture]

Needs diff psu but good option

[plucky timber]

oh

did I use the wrong psu

[weary galleon]

6900xt on 650w seems sus to me

[plucky timber]

yeah but it's the kyber

[mossy venture]

Single 8 pin on it

[plucky timber]

trolled with 8 pin

[mossy venture]

Won't run a 6900xt anyways

Needs 3 8 pins i believe

[plucky timber]

hmm

[mossy venture]

The asrock 850 gold is good

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KyT8PJ

ehhhh

might be an optimised psu

[mossy venture]

Better quality than the kyber too

[plucky timber]

oh psu

[mossy venture]

Agl is fine too but the cgl is $15 cheaper

Yeah

[plucky timber]

ooo could I have a link?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VHfxFT/asrock-challenger-cl-850g-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-cl-850g

[plucky timber]

thanks

[mossy venture]

Np

I've been getting creative with psu suggestions with prices recently lol

[plucky timber]

oh damn that's an 850 too

[mossy venture]

750w at $90 hurts a lil

The new tier list in #cases-psu-and-cooling has been very useful

[lone flame]

What’s a solid 1000w unit

[plucky timber]

I wonder if we can shave off a bit more tho

[lone flame]

Thinking about swapping to one in the coming months

[plucky timber]

anything good here?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TnCZxr/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii1000g-bkcus

[plucky timber]

PG lighting wifi any good?

[lone flame]

Cause I might upgrade/case swap my sisters prebuilt and give her my 750 RMe

[mossy venture]

B850m-x and lightning wifi are basically the same but the -x has vrm heatsinks

But the pro rs and -a are a lot better

[plucky timber]

oh I mean the 650

[mossy venture]

Ye

[lone flame]

Appreciate it, I’ll save it for later

[plucky timber]

yeah guess it's the A-wifi then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j7BwDj

[lone flame]

It’ll run quiet with hopefully no coil whine?

[mossy venture]

B850m-x is 6+1+1 and b650m pg lightning is 6+2+1

[plucky timber]

we're looking at $11 overbudget

[mossy venture]

But no vrm heatsink

[plucky timber]

that's actually really damn good

considering market conditions

[mossy venture]

Si

[plucky timber]

anyone have anything that could be improved on the list?

[lone flame]

My RMe is noisy I need to see about RMAing it

[plucky timber]

also

are the patriot viper memory any good?

or are they just ugly

[mossy venture]

Lil bit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLxXMC

[mossy venture]

Yeah they're fine

[plucky timber]

ooooo

we are officially within budget

🥂

[plucky timber]

yeah I don't see them recommended as much as the silicon power tho

[mossy venture]

Theyre lesser known and im just more used to typing silic the second i open memory lmao

[plucky timber]

lmao

I think this might just be the most we can shave

damn

great work

[mossy venture]

Yeah

Same to you

[plucky timber]

🖐️ high five

[plucky timber]

@floral flame we have got a list for you

[mossy venture]

Tbf, I think I'd rather move to 2080 ti to spend a bit more on the rest of the build to not need to cut corners

Lemme make one other option

Also just don't need aliexpress this way
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wXqcBq

Ssd free with cpu

[plucky timber]

I mean do you lose a bit of perf tho or nah

(I mean in current market conditions I'd gladly take a less powerful gpu if it means I'm not overpaying)

[mossy venture]

Yeah its a pretty big gpu downgrade

3080 ti to 3070

[plucky timber]

yeah I guess it's up to him

[mossy venture]

Just more comfortably in budget

[plucky timber]

both are solid options

[mossy venture]

$370 6800 isn't bad either
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-rx6800-pgd-16go/p/N82E16814930048T?Item=N82E16814930048T

[plucky timber]

wait

isn't the 6800 close to the 7700XT?

[mossy venture]

Yeah

More vram

[plucky timber]

ooooo we have a 7700XT substitution now

[mossy venture]

Its not as good a deal as the 2080 ti/6900xt

[plucky timber]

i see

[mossy venture]

There was one for $330 earlier, that was great

[plucky timber]

so the 6900xt is pretty much the new 7800xt

[mossy venture]

Yeah, with the raster of a gre

[plucky timber]

pc market is looking a lot less glommy now

we'll see how long this lasts but

great info

[mossy venture]

Yeah w newegg clearing out all of these refurbs i imagine nvidia will start to fix 50 series stock

But i could be wrong

And i imagine it's not a coincidence, I think they know smthn we don't

[plucky timber]

yeah hopefully these gpus will stay until 9070XT

[mossy venture]

Maybe 9060xt otw too

[plucky timber]

maybe this insanity will finally be over

7700XT and 7800XT being the same price is wild

[manic cloak]

Sometimes I don’t understand how amd drops their cards

Like they’re starting with the 9070xt

Unless I missed something, but I wonder how well the “9900xtx” is going to be if there is one

[mossy venture]

I'm pretty sure they said 9070xt is going to be the highest card in this gen, but I could be wrong

[weary galleon]

Yeah I think you're right, they aren't aiming for high-end this gen

(which hopefully means the 9060/xt will exist and be good)

[mossy venture]

If you want a pre built option
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883360500C?Item=N82E16883360500C

Far worse than the other options tho

[tall shard]

Is this good ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KcTsMC

[floral flame]

TY TY

[floral flame]

Thank you for the help as well!

[plucky timber]

np 👍🏻

[plucky timber]

Did you take a look I sent you yesterday?

[lone flame]

my pc just turned itself of midgame? no crash report no nothing just an instant just power off

[cyan ravine]

Check it's 141

If it is change psu cables around

[lone flame]

141?

[cyan ravine]

Event viewer

Livekernel 141

"The shutdown was unexpected"

That's power related always

[lone flame]

uhhh

131

@cyan ravine

also there are like alot of these events in here is that normal

[tall shard]

yeah just got a 6600 n 7600

[tall shard]

Is the psu in that build list good (the one i sent)

[plucky timber]

I think @mossy venture would probably be able to get you something better

[tall shard]

6600 is 117 w/ cooler

[tall shard]

Sorry, i meant to say ryzen 5600 and radeon rx7600

[plucky timber]

ok

I just checked the psu

please do not buy that power supply

also the ram is uhh

sub-par

vengeance is quite literally the worst kit out there

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wGtwDj

I've tweaked it a bit

still looking for a better gpu

[tall shard]

atx ? isnt that like huge

[plucky timber]

too big? ok

[tall shard]

i got this case ordered Apevia Phenom-BK Phenom Micro-ATX Gaming PC Case w/ 3X 120mm ARGB Fans, 366 RGB Light Modes, 1x Glass Front Panel, 340MM GPU Support, 1X USB3.0, 2X USB 2.0, Black

on amazon

[plucky timber]

eh?

did you order it already?

[tall shard]

yea

[plucky timber]

and the cpu and gpu too?

[tall shard]

mobo cpu gpu not ordered

[plucky timber]

ok good

[tall shard]

and psu

[plucky timber]

don't order them yet

do not order anything yet

[tall shard]

i got CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX DDR4 RAM 32GB

ordered

[plucky timber]

...

[tall shard]

wha

[plucky timber]

please cancel it

vengeance is quite literally the worst kit out there

[tall shard]

i requested cancel

[plucky timber]

that is not an exaggeration

they have a high DOA rate

and they've been known to not run stable at XMP

[tall shard]

no clue what that means ngl

i jus understand that 3200 n 16 cl is fine

[plucky timber]

essentially

[tall shard]

n i thought it was a good price cus it was on sale

[plucky timber]

they might not even run at 3200 cl16

[tall shard]

$20 off

do i even need 32

[plucky timber]

with newer titles

the headroom comes in handy

[tall shard]

whats a good one

[plucky timber]

the one in the list I posted

the problem is vengeance is that

the cheapest kit is almost ALWAYS better

[tall shard]

i asked another person and they said the segotep psu is cheeks

[plucky timber]

what?

is that slang for something?

[tall shard]

bad

[plucky timber]

it is

that's why I linked the asrock

please take a look at the list I linked

[plucky timber]

.

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-08g-p5-3663-kl/p/N82E16814487540T?Item=N82E16814487540T

found a better gpu

[tall shard]

3060?

[plucky timber]

not just 3060

3060ti

[tall shard]

whats the ti for

[plucky timber]

3060ti outperforms the 4060 and the 6700

[plucky timber]

3060ti > 3060

[tall shard]

7600 sounds cooler tho ngl

[plucky timber]

wh

it's slower

[tall shard]

fr?

[plucky timber]

yes

aboslutely

I wouldn't have recommend the 3060ti otherwise

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9py8Q

around the same price as your list but with better parts

I didn't mess with the case because you've ordered it

but just in case I'll make an alternate list with a different case

[tall shard]

if the ram cant be cancelled am i cooked

not saying it cant but

just if

[plucky timber]

you can return it

[tall shard]

by chance can u find ram +psu combo on amazon for under 110?

[plucky timber]

unlikely

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7fjfVF

here's the alternate list

also please please please just follow the lists I linked

they're optimised for performance/$

[tall shard]

i got amazon gift card money lol

case can only b amazon

[plucky timber]

yeah so the first list is what you would want then

gonna relink it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9py8Q

[tall shard]

if that ram comes is it like that bad?

i mean its just ram

[plucky timber]

What do you mean?

[tall shard]

like its not the end of the world

[plucky timber]

Which kit are you referring to?

[tall shard]

vengance

[plucky timber]

depends

Unstable ram can lead to instability

And especially with ryzen you'd lose performance if the kit doesn't run at xmp

I'd just cancel it and order the SP kit

Save yourself some hassle

[tall shard]

alright

crucial p3 plus is also ordered

not plus

[plucky timber]

...

I've a lecture so

Gotta go

[tall shard]

dawg why is everything bad

I see all the people usin the crucials

cant be that bad

[weary galleon]

Crucial ssds are pretty good

It's Corsair ram that's bad

[plucky timber]

It's not bad but the klevv is better

The corsair one is actually bad

[tall shard]

the corsair rgb rams are fire tho

[weary galleon]

Yeah for the price the klevv is great

[tall shard]

50 for 2x8 tho

[plucky timber]

That's literally more than the 32GB kit

for an inferior kit

[tall shard]

question for gpu n cpu

5600+radeon7600= all amd
5600+ Nvidia 3060 = both

is it like a disadvantage

[plucky timber]

no

Also it's a 3060ti

Big difference

3060ti > 7600 > 3060

[tall shard]

can i add rgb fans to my mobo

[crimson zinc]

@tall shard don’t get any Corsair ram

They are often unstable and lead to crashes.

Usually from mismatched dies

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HfzBFZ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226623030260?

[tall shard]

is the asrock challanger psu good

[neon condor]

@long rock I think the lamp really seals it in.

[crimson zinc]

Not enough info on it

[crimson zinc]

This is a good list

If you want, you can get a Corsair PSU refurbished from corsairs website

Trust the people who put pcs together and do a bunch of research, not just what looks cool. You’ll get more value out of your money and it’ll perform better.

[plucky timber]

There's a new psu tier list in #cases-psu-and-cooling

The psu is decent

[lilac tinsel]

is there any cheap case that can fit the longer psus? I have a 1300w laying around and I need a case for my nas

[crimson zinc]

I have not seen it my b

[crude thistle]

hello

can someone recconmend me 36 bay rackmount

[zenith cargo]

is there anything I need to do before selling my gpu

I need ddu right?

[crude thistle]

i never used ddu before selling my GPU thats just me

oops i would. i thought it stand for something else but yes i would uninstall it first

[zenith cargo]

wait ima be pcless 💀

no gpu, no cpu integrated graphics

wait will it work?

[jagged ember]

You won't have a display out so

Effectively no

You can run ddu before you remove the gpu

[crude thistle]

i was thinking about getting 24 or 36 rack mount but i am moving with my honey with in the next few months and i dont wnat her to strain her back and i am in a wheel chair and i live in a foster home. do you guys think ill be better off with the 7xl with eypc

[zenith cargo]

even upgrading from the same brand (amd)?

[crude thistle]

yes

[zenith cargo]

portable or installer?

[crude thistle]

doesnt matter but ill go in safe mode with netowrking

if you are on windows 11 you need to run chris titus tech tool enable safemode with f8

[zenith cargo]

bru

oh well I’ll risk it idc

👍

[crude thistle]

do you have the gpu? i used chris tutus powershell script bout load

[zenith cargo]

No i’m waiting on the 9070xt

[crude thistle]

then WAIT

[zenith cargo]

Someone’s buying tmrw ?!!!?

can’t

👀

$440

either he buys it or i never sell it for that much

[crude thistle]

ok then go for ddu in safe mode. i done it

[zenith cargo]

w/ safe mode bcuz i’m sick and want to go to bed tmrw so actually screw it and pulling it out as is

👍

done

[crude thistle]

ok.

[zenith cargo]

my back feels warm and the rest of my body is cold..

[crude thistle]

sorry bud. im always hot thats beause of pain meds

[zenith cargo]

took tylenol but keeps getting worse 🥲

sorry for the wrong chat channel

i’ll shut up 👍

[shrewd gale]

So which 9070xt should I take

[plucky timber]

I would wait for benchmarks first

[shrewd gale]

Hub?

[plucky timber]

HUB, GN, tomshardware, techpowerup

[shrewd gale]

Don't they come out on thursday?

[plucky timber]

Not sure

I've never been one to pay attention to launch dates

[shrewd gale]

Ah

[forest lava]

Ran into the most odd bluescreen

Bottom half of the screen was distorted, randomly colored pixels, and the top half were a mirage of the blue screen messages next to each other

[weary galleon]

I got that the other day

On a mini PC system with an overheating nvme drive

[broken barn]

Can someone find me a workstation motherboard

I want the following please

At least 1 usb type c
At least 5 Usb Ports
Wifi
Ethernet
2 Jack Ports
Hdmi Port
PCle 4.0
DDR5 (Specifically 6000 Cl30)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C9nbyW

[broken barn]

<@&1344087154988421151>

[tawny violet]

The issue is the double 3.5mm jacks

Everything else is available on a consumer board+dedicated sound card

But I don't know any boards with double onboard jack

[broken barn]

actually the jacks don’t matter to much

any ideas? im thinking about the Z790-plus by asus

oh wait it has like 6 jacks

yooooo

https://a.co/d/2Suj9Hv @tawny violet how’s this?

oo or this https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-z790-a-wifi/

[fossil cedar]

Have you already gotten all these parts? If you had the option I'd recommend opting for some different parts

[mossy venture]

Cooler is insanely overpriced btw

[broken barn]

it’s only a plan for now, i didn’t get them

[mossy venture]

The id cooling a620 is exactly the same at $30

[broken barn]

deadahh? i just want something very quiet for my audio production needs

[broken barn]

oooo def switching out

[mossy venture]

An aio would be quieter

And the 14700k needs an aio to be properly cooled honestly

[broken barn]

wouldn’t there be water squashing noises

[mossy venture]

Not really

My aio gurgles a lil bit on startup and then it's silent

[broken barn]

oooo

what do u recommend then

anything quiet asf is what i need

[mossy venture]

Aios do have a shorter lifespan than heatsinks though

[broken barn]

that’s fine by me, i can replace em

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99XV3C/thermalright-frozen-prism-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-black

Lcd display on this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b8MXsY/thermalright-core-vision-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-core-vision-360-black

Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hR9wrH/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00135a

[broken barn]

which one is better performance wise? and quieter i don’t care about looks

[mossy venture]

This is probably the quietest

I'm not 100% sure

[broken barn]

arctic is in its name

[mossy venture]

Felix and maybe pato know aios better than I do

I know the lf3 is bad on either amd or intel but I don't remember which

I'd get a second opinion

Alr i gotta run for a bit

[broken barn]

bet thank you

updated https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4NYy8Q

[mossy venture]

Any reason specifically that case?

[fossil cedar]

I never really payed attention to the exact audio levels

@broken barn what have you purchased from this list btw?

Because amd might well be the better option overall

[mossy venture]

Hes doing exporting which i think benefits from qsv

I could be completely wrong

[broken barn]

literally nothing yet

i’ve had multiple people tell me that intel is the best for workstation use

[broken barn]

idk someone told me it was good and it has incredible airflow, therefor overheating won’t be an issue

but yeah i very prioritize no noise

[mossy venture]

Nah its just overpriced as hell lmao

[fossil cedar]

What kind of stuff will you be doing? I assume you'll also be gaming (given the graphics card) also assuming you have that since it's an old card?

[broken barn]

i have none of it, it’s a plan to get the newegg refurb one once it’s back on stock, usually it restocks.

I would be doing workstation stuff, such as hella tabs open, hella stuff open in general, live audio, exporting stuff, talking on discord, and gaming wise nothing more demanding than fortnite

[broken barn]

oh bruh, idk then

[fossil cedar]

I'd probs do something like this.... For GPU would pop in an RX 9070 XT, comes out on Thursday and should be around 600$ but I've saved about 100$ in the build so may as well
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9xKCC8

Also much better cpu

[broken barn]

isn’t that mainly for gaming cpu?

[broken barn]

also shouldn’t the psu have more head room

[fossil cedar]

Nope and actually win in that aspect... Plus they run much cooler, you're thinking of the x3d models which are aimed at gaming but still stomp in production workloads

Nah 750w is plenty for a 9070xt

Eh sorry forgot to take out the 3080ti
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QbNsp

[mossy venture]

750w is fine but id do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VHfxFT/asrock-challenger-cl-850g-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-cl-850g

[broken barn]

Also the intel one has way better value, and it doesn’t take up as much wattage, and the amd one is like $200 more

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5719vs5031/Intel-i7-14700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X

are you sure?

[broken barn]

the reviews are poopoo tho

or in the pc world do reviews mean nothing

[crimson zinc]

Pcpp reviews are not to be listened to

[broken barn]

yeah they’re inaccurate, but what about like amazon reviews

do they actually mean anything in the pc world

cuz i do audio and reviews do not matter

maybe it’s the same for pc parts

[fossil cedar]

That probes my point that the 7950x is better... Which it is... It's slightly more expensive but overall it's a cheaper build.... You could go with the 7900x or something for 12 cores instead of 16, the 14700k absolutely uses way more wattage

[stoic island]

Only trusted third party reviewers that have standardized procedure mean anything

[fossil cedar]

User review's can generally be ignored

[broken barn]

7950x it is then, just a bit confusing because the benchmark says that it takes more wattage then the 14700k and that the 14700k is more performance for your buck

what about the 9950x over the 7950x, its barely any more expensive and it appears as if it’s better. it’s also 2 years newer than the 7950x

[fossil cedar]

It's actually only 1 year newer and for 70$ more idk if it's worth it personally both are good options

Might be worth it for you for the little bit better efficiency and the extra perf

https://youtu.be/iyA9DRTJtyE

Give that a watch and decide for yourself if it's worth it

[broken barn]

bet

[fossil cedar]

Both are great options

[broken barn]

tank you for helping me

[fossil cedar]

Skip to around 9 mins in for the power/perf testing

No problem dude!

[broken barn]

@fossil cedar i switched the psu to this, is this still a good choice? plus, cheap asf

[fossil cedar]

If bacca says it's good then it most likely is! I haven't kept up with the new psu's as much

[mossy venture]

Its b+ tier, fine for any realistic setup

Though it is non modular

That'll make cable management harder

I thought it was semi

[broken barn]

any good psu’s that’s fully modular?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5

[tall shard]

are segotep pcus fine

b tier

[stoic island]

Only the gp-p is known decent, rest are mostly unknown

[bronze pier]

Hi guys. Its my first time that i bought from newegg a prebuilt do they include cables? Ps. I only bought a pre built system unit.

[stoic island]

Depends on the manufacturer, usually it'll have enough to start up, but won't have any extra cables from a single HDMI/DP cable and the PSU cable

[analog hearth]

Not having the PSU cable would be wild

[frigid jackal]

anyone got any idea why my google says its being managed by an organization but it doesn't say the name 🥺

I have another acc on here that IS managed by an organization w/ plugins and a name so maybe that's it 😮

[languid nimbus]

Hacked

[shrewd gale]

Alright, but fr now. I really need to know which 9070XT I need

[lone flame]

Try and watch reviews tomorrow to see which model you like the most of, preferably one at MSRP, they will likely sell out fairly quick no matter how much stock they have

[severe hull]

Hey all , question ! The fan on PSU is this an intake or exhaust ?

[shrewd gale]

Because, I need just to know so I can go on a site where they sell it

[analog hearth]

Intake

[severe hull]

Reverse fans are exhaust correct

I bought this case and looking to get fans that sit ontop of psu

The reverse fans have a different asthetic

[plucky timber]

noctua sponsor goes hard

[plucky timber]

intake

the main intake is the side fans

so with a normal fans you'd have to flip them around to have intake

[severe hull]

The two side fans say reverse

[plucky timber]

yeah that's the intake

[broken barn]

Anybody got recommendations for a OLED Monitor? At least 144hz, preferably more

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f2znXR

In case youre wondering, im planning to get the **Radeon™ RX 9070 XT **

[shrewd gale]

https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16g-gddr6

Think this one should do

[mossy venture]

Are you going to be reading a lot of text?

[mossy venture]

Nitro+ is likely the most expensive model

And also the only one with a 12vpwhr connector

I wouldnt bother personally

[broken barn]

yes, workstation/productivity would be the main goal, however i would want gaming here and there

and i heard oled is good asff, i just want something that would make my eyeballs happy

[mossy venture]

You probably want woled
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZ8Pxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oled-pgo27qfs-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-pgo27qfs

[broken barn]

whats woled and oled difference?

[mossy venture]

Oled and qdled have not so great text clarity i believe

Felix or someone else knows the differences a lot better than I do

[shrewd gale]

Huh, so it ah...

Bad??

[mossy venture]

Not bad, it's good, just likely not worth paying $100-200 extra over a diff model

If it's within $50 or so it's good

[shrewd gale]

Well, I mean, I just cancel a 1500 card, so it should fit in my budget

[broken barn]

@mossy venture i have no clue about the differences with different types of the same gpu, i wanna get the rx 9070 xt, which kind should i buy?

[weary galleon]

probably the cheapest one that isn't an MSI ventus is Mech the amd version of ventus?

[mossy venture]

Basically anything from xfx Power color or sapphire will be good

There's ofc going to be other good ones too

At the end of the day, and 9070xt is a 9070xt

I'd buy what you can get your hands on at a good price. There's still no saying how good or bad stock will be

[shrewd gale]

That why I will be awake at 1am

Well, I need to for work purpose

[broken barn]

could u link me the type i should be camping for at 11:59 pm 3/5/25

[plucky timber]

I'd say the one that doesn't have 12vhpwr

[broken barn]

why, is that bad?

[lone flame]

9950X dayum

[plucky timber]

Have you seen all the melting nvidia gpus

the spec is poorly designed

[broken barn]

never, i am a noobie at this

[plucky timber]

Granted, it's less likely to melt due to the lower power consumption

But still

[lone flame]

cough

[broken barn]

what do u think about the setup 😎

[broken barn]

gpus can melt?

[lone flame]

welcome to 2025

[broken barn]

your psu if you scroll

[plucky timber]

All the nvidis gpus melting do not inspire confidence in the 12vhpwr standard

[plucky timber]

Been happening since 40 series

[lone flame]

i trust sapphire to do it right but it still is concerning

[plucky timber]

If sapphire melts it's joever

Like sapphire usually never messes up

[lone flame]

seems like they did it purely for the hidden cable thing

it would be cool if they released a standard 8pin nitro+ model