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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:25 AM

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oh or go to Settings>Save & Exit

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same thing

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:26 AM

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Are we sure about this 😭 the crypto mining got me worried

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:27 AM

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lol ya

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:27 AM

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Sorry I didn’t mean it as an insult to your expertise 😭I’m just worried about some hacker mining Bitcoin on my pc

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:27 AM

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you won't mine crypto by accident don't worry. Plus it lets your GPU access your storage drives directly

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:28 AM

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Oh I see

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Ok

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Time to click yes

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:28 AM

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which in some cases, increases performance but not all

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:28 AM

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Ah I see

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Actually I have a side question for you—do you think that the credibility of chip makers have gone down ?

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And uh

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Bad news

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:29 AM

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Intel sure hasn't done itself any favors recently. I guess AMD might be at its highest level credibility-wise... well except for non-X3D claims for 9000 series CPUs

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claiming to outperform 13700K when you severely limit the 13700K with memory speed isn't really fair

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okay back in Settings>Boot are there any changes to the Boot Options

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:30 AM

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I see

That Make sense

Basically inflated performance numbers to drive sales..

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:31 AM

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no changes for UEFI Hard Disk? still not showing it as having : & somethign next to it?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:33 AM

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Ignore the atrocious cable management 😭

But I just noticed that

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:35 AM

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ah okay let me see what that light indicates

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"Booting device is not detected or failed"

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:40 AM

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Ah

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:40 AM

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okay shut down real quick by just pressing power button

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:40 AM

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Ok

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:40 AM

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turn off the PSU

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:40 AM

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Turn off the psu?

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How

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:41 AM

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where the cord connects to the wall on the back

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there's usually a switch that has either an I or an O

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it's like a rocker switch

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:41 AM

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Ohhh right

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It’s off

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It did crackle a bit though

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:41 AM

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gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:42 AM

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It’s off now

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:42 AM

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ah okay well that is worth noting but shouldn't have been impacted by BIOS update

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:42 AM

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It’s on the “O”

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Hmmm

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:42 AM

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okay press the power button & hold it for like 10 seconds or so

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so it drains capacitors or any other power still there even tho PSU is off

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:43 AM

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While it’s off right now?

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And that’s pretty neat

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Like drying a sponge in a way ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:44 AM

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lol ya like squeezing it ig

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do you see where I highlighted green?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:44 AM

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Held for 25 seconds

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:44 AM

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might be kinda annoying to get to

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:44 AM

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Yes

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K at

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Jbat

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Oh no

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:45 AM

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yes Jbat1

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what you wanna do is get something conductive

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:45 AM

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Conductive ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:45 AM

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paperclip, screwdriver, anything metal really

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:45 AM

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Okay

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What’s next ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:46 AM

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and you want to use the metal object to short the two pins on the little JBAT1 header together

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this will reset BIOS to factory state (don't worry your update won't go away)

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i.e., clear CMOS

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:46 AM

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Wait wait wait wait wait

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How do you short something? Do you mean just to touch the metal onto the surface or ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:47 AM

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yes like there are two little pins that stick out

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:47 AM

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And is this the backside or I’m confused

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:47 AM

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you want to use the paperclip to complete an electrical circuit between those two pins

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a "jumper cap" is just a little piece of plastic that will do the same thing as touching both at the same time with a metal object

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:51 AM

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Oh unplug the power cord

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Wait was I supposed to hold the power button after unplugging or

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:51 AM

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turning off the PSU switch will do the same

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:52 AM

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Ok

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So I’ve never worked with circuitry outside of battery and light bulb from third grade

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So bear with me

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Tell me if my steps are wrong

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:53 AM

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no worries

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I know it's a little strange & probably hard to get to since your GPU is there lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:54 AM

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Unscrew the tempered glass panel off
Shine a light directly at the JBAT1 (front side of the motherboard)
Prepare a paper clip to bend into a U shape.
Put both end on both pins of JBAT1?

Do I need to wear rubber gloves or anything

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:55 AM

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that should work. Try to keep it shorted for about 5 seconds or so if you can. & no need for gloves, it's very low voltage. it might hurt a little if you licked it or something but it's not hazardous otherwise

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:55 AM

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Gotcha. Imma still use vinyl gloves incase

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Man… I’ll lyk if I can find JBAT1

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 4:56 AM

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should be just above the lower x16 PCIe slot (where GPUs usually go) & next to the battery which is easy to find cuz it's relatively large & round

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 4:57 AM

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Hmm

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I’m still searching

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:02 AM

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send a picture if you want & maybe I can help

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:02 AM

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Okie dokie

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Also please ignore the dust in these photos

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It’s overdo for a spring clean up 😭

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:03 AM

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haha no worries

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:03 AM

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:03 AM

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with system off, I recommend swiffer sweeper

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heckin thing is a dust magnet

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okay those are your memory slots

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we're looking under the GPU

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:03 AM

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I was gonna ask about this as The glowing light might’ve been the pc but I’ll take a pic of the JP area

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Oo

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Okay I’ll try that

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And oh I know I wanted to just clearly tell you you that the light was cpu

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:04 AM

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oh was it?

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it wasn't the bottom light?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:04 AM

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I think? Not sure

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Wait lemme look again

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:04 AM

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I think it was the bottom one. if it was CPU, GPU, or RAM, it usually wouldn't even let you into BIOS lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:04 AM

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My bad not cpu

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Right yeah

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Sorry about that 😅

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And to reconfirm yes it says boot

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😭sorry for wasting time here

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:05 AM

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no worries

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:05 AM

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:06 AM

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btw you wanna be looking over there ish

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you can faintly see JBAT1 there

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:06 AM

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Oh no way

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😭😭😭

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Dawg

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Have you ever considered playing competitive where’s Waldo ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:07 AM

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lol is that a thing?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:07 AM

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Jokes aside thank you let me take a better picture

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Not sure, perhaps one day 😭

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:08 AM

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it'd have to be like online multi-player lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:08 AM

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1000% would be a fun game

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So I see the two pins

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It’s the ones that are perpendicular to the board itself right?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:10 AM

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yes

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right above the PCIe slot there

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:10 AM

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Could I use a small screwdriver technically to join the two sides ? Or still paper clip is better? Seeing it now I don’t think I need to bend the clipboard

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:10 AM

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these little heckers

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Ah I see

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:11 AM

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gentle bay Could I use a small screwdriver technically to join the two sides ? Or still pap...

screwdriver works just fine

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Flathead ? Or does a + work too

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:12 AM

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any conductive object that wont accidentally scrape or short anything else

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:12 AM

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flathead is probably easier but philips (+) works. Anything that's a good conductor

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:12 AM

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👍

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Sounds good

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:12 AM

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also make sure to flip off the psu switch

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or unplug

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 AM

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5 seconds you say ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 AM

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just like set the flathead down on the two pins for a few seconds lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 AM

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Okok

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 AM

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ya 3-5 seconds is plenty

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 AM

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dusky hearth also make sure to flip off the psu switch

we turned off PSU & held power button for like 25 seconds to be sure

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I reset CMOS in Windows sometimes lmfao

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 AM

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💀

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well, shutting off the psu is just to make sure that if there is power, you wont be able to accidentally short the board and damage something

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:14 AM

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ya you're right for sure

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I only do that cuz there's a button on the back of the board

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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yeah button is definitely way safer than prodding some pins while the pc is on Kek

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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Guys

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Remember to not eat the paste

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(Optional)

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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1984

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:15 AM

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Yes

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Uh

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:16 AM

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I remember B550 Strix was so annoying cuz I had to clear CMOS every time it didn't like my memory OC

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I had to run a little wire

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wish I'd known back then that I should've just repurposed my reset button

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:16 AM

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Can I just use a paper clip 😭I realize that the screw driver I’m using is lowkey bulky and I don’t wanna short anything important

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:16 AM

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bitter mason I remember B550 Strix was so annoying cuz I had to clear CMOS every time it didn...

Wasn't that one like the most prime that an asus board ever strix'd

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:16 AM

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gentle bay Can I just use a paper clip 😭I realize that the screw driver I’m using is lowke...

whatever you're comfortable with is the best option

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:16 AM

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Strix b550 iirc was quote "The most meh overclocker"

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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but also, I beat the crap out of hardware & rarely break it so don't worry too much

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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Lol

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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cyan ravine Strix b550 iirc was quote "The most meh overclocker"

so meh

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my B550 Master was way better

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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Gigglebit stonks

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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& that board has dual BIOS

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but no way to pick one

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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gentle bay Can I just use a paper clip 😭I realize that the screw driver I’m using is lowke...

if the psu is powered off, you can technically short where ever without risk of damage outside of physically scraping things

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:17 AM

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so imagine how crappy B550 Strix had to be for that horrible configuration to feel like a huge win

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dual BIOS & the profiles for each were mutually exclusive

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so I'd try an OC, it would fail, & go to the other BIOS that didn't have my settings saved there at all

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so I'd purposely set like tCL at 4 just to force it to freak out & go back to the other BIOS lol

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:19 AM

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I don't remember the prime doing this

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kekw

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That sounds messed up

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Lmao

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:19 AM

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it was so incredibly stupid

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:19 AM

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I see

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:19 AM

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like how did this leave R&D?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:19 AM

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The more you know

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:19 AM

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But my vision also overclocked a lot more smoothly

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:20 AM

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Also I think I did it

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Do I turn the switch on and wait how long ?

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:20 AM

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it should be already reset, dont need to wait

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well, except for ram training ig

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:22 AM

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Okie dokie

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Here goes nothing

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Giving that fresh boot noise

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:23 AM

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Nothing beats that new boot smell...(?)

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Lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:23 AM

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I’m going to Kashoot myself

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:24 AM

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gentle bay

okay try this

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go to Settings

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:24 AM

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Yes

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I can retry shorting the power from JBAT1

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:26 AM

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Settings>Advanced>Integrated Peripherals

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:26 AM

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:27 AM

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Enable Hot Plug on SATA 1-6

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not sure why this would work tbh but apparently it did for someone

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if it doesn't well heck, we might have to move the SATA connection from port 6 to 1-4 cuz Ports 5 & 6 are those heckin Asmedia ones

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:30 AM

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Okay so after enabling just save and reset ?

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Sorry I had to run to the bathroom rq

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:30 AM

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no worries

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yes

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:30 AM

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Okie dokie

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I’m just

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Hhhh

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Did not work

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And could reattempt to short JBAT1 again but…

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:33 AM

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back in Settings>Boot still no UEFI Hard Disk option for the drive?

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nah doing that again won't accomplish much

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:33 AM

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Aw man

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:34 AM

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this is bananas

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you said you have another computer you can use?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:36 AM

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I do yeah

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 5:36 AM

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chat 14900K, W??

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i might get it

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:36 AM

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This is also what’s under device self test

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It’s there again in the EZ view

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:42 AM

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what the heck why would it not be supported

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:42 AM

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But

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I have no clue

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:42 AM

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unless it's an MBR drive & it needs to be GPT

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:43 AM

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Rufus set the usb drive to MBR

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I remember that much

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:43 AM

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cyan ravine But my vision also overclocked a lot more smoothly

you think this is cuz the drive is MBR & we need it to be GPT thanks to BIOS update?

plucky timber Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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Does bios do that?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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?

plucky timber Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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Feels like bios updates don't disable booting from MBR

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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gentle bay Rufus set the usb drive to MBR

did it change the Samsung drive to GPT cuz otherwise that shouldn't matter

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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Idk what is the issue here

plucky timber Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I think changing the partition table would literally wipe the drive

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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updated BIOS now drive won't show as a boot drive

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:44 AM

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bitter mason did it change the Samsung drive to GPT cuz otherwise that shouldn't matter

I don’t recall seeing GPT….

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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What's the drive model

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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gentle bay I don’t recall seeing GPT….

sorry I meant did it change the Samsung 1tb drive to MBR cuz I doubt rufus would do that

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Evo 860 iirc

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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Samsung EVO 860 1 Terabyte

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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it's on QVL

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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The boot drive?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:45 AM

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bitter mason sorry I meant did it change the Samsung 1tb drive to MBR cuz I doubt rufus would...

Potentially I don’t know for sure if it did. It only set the USB to mbr

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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I'm confused

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Is the 860 the only drive

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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We all are 😦

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yes

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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Ok and so it's showing right now yes

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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No

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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It's in ez view

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

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cyan ravine Is the 860 the only drive

yes

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it's showing as SATA 6 device but for whatever reason doesn't recognize that Windows is on there

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Win10 btw

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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gentle bay No

It not showing would be probably due to one of two things

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The board not in ahci mode

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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so TPM shenanigans is less likely at fault

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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Or the data cable is loose

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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it's in ACHI

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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It has to be the ladder

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:47 AM

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Try another sata iii data cable then

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:48 AM

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How would I tighten the cable ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:48 AM

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gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:48 AM

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And where would I locate it again?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:48 AM

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Settings\Advanced\Integrated Peripherals

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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Oh I meant like physical cable

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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gentle bay How would I tighten the cable ?

I see it there

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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gentle bay

you moved the SATA connection from SATA 6 to SATA 2 already?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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It's reading it no?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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Uh

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Wait time out

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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gentle bay How would I tighten the cable ?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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bitter mason you moved the SATA connection from SATA 6 to SATA 2 already?

I did not move any cables today

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:49 AM

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lol it knows it's there but ignores that it has Windows on it

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:50 AM

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There is an off chance that I might’ve loosened something by moving my tower forward

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:50 AM

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bitter mason lol it knows it's there but ignores that it has Windows on it

Then your boot priorities aren't set correctly

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:50 AM

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Lets go to that screen again

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:50 AM

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I'm not sure moving it to Port 1-4 would help but because 5 & 6 are ASMedia ports v. 1-4 connect to chipset, I thought it might be worth trying

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:50 AM

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Yes

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Move the sata plug on the board

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And then check your boot priorities are correct after a reboot

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:51 AM

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cyan ravine Then your boot priorities aren't set correctly

it doesn't show BBS Priorities for UEFI Hard Disk & no UEFI Hard Disk options include :[drive name or windows boot or something else], just generic "UEFI Hard Disk"

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:51 AM

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Yeahhh

jagged ember Mar 3, 2025, 5:51 AM

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Sounds like it doesn't see Windows

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:51 AM

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bitter mason it doesn't show BBS Priorities for UEFI Hard Disk & no UEFI Hard Disk options in...

Then change the port and see if it works then

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If it reads it then it's a nuance issue

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It's not a fault

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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Change SATA port?

jagged ember Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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Unless that

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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jagged ember Sounds like it doesn't see Windows

seems like that yes

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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I don’t even know how to 😭

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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Only situation that it is a fault is if windows was so nuked it went 6 feet under

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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or it can't find the bcd boot manager thing

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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gentle bay I don’t even know how to 😭

The cable that goes from the ssd to the motherboard

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The motherboard has 6 slots of them

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:52 AM

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which ig worst case, you could use macrium rescue iso to rebuild windows boot manager

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:53 AM

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hmm

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:53 AM

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Unplug the motherboard end of it and move it up to any other port above it

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Easy

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:53 AM

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I wish it was easy 😭 let me try to locate everything

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:53 AM

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gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:53 AM

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Do I need to unplug and power off PSU again?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:54 AM

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Just switch it off then look where the yellow circle is

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:54 AM

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Ok turning it off

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:54 AM

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There will be a little singular cable poking out of 1 of 6 plugs

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:54 AM

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we want to disconnect from the green & move to the yellow if possible

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 5:54 AM

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Move it up to the top two and pick one to plug it into

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Plug it in, turn pc on

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See if it works then

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I gotta go again but good luck

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I think the change plug might do it

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:55 AM

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lol thanks

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:55 AM

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Thank you both let me read and try to follow along

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I will update you guys ina minute

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:56 AM

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jagged ember Unless that

lol well, this is still better than my Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi. Even tho this is X570 Gaming Carbon Wifi, at least BIOS update only made the drives hecky instead of in my case, bricked the whole board

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 5:57 AM

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gentle bay I will update you guys ina minute

take your time

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:58 AM

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Thank you for your patience

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Oh

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My dumb self

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Cannot find it

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:58 AM

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gentle bay Rufus set the usb drive to MBR

MBR is legacy, afaik windows 11 only supports GPT

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 5:59 AM

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Once more,

Pls ignore the dust and the atrocious cable management

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I can’t find the SATA slot 😭

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:01 AM

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yeah windows 11 only supports UEFI (which MBR doesnt support) so you have to use GPT to install windows 11

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sata is usually on the bottom right edge of the board

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gpu might be blocking it

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:02 AM

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Oh I found it

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And I see

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Ah I see

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I’m trying to hold off on getting WIN11

Not a big fan of it 😅

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:03 AM

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oh, iirc windows 10 works on MBR since it doesnt need secureboot or such

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make sure you have the "enable legacy boot" enabled in your bios for MBR

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(we call the modern BIOS "bios" even though it's actually UEFI, and legacy mode allows legacy (aka BIOS and MBR partitions) to be bootable)

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:05 AM

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Oh I see

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Ah I see

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Hopefully it allows me to enable legacy

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It only did when I had my USB inserted

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I opened up the back cover

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Now try to move the SATA cable is gonna be hell

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:08 AM

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probably approximately there behind the GPU

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:08 AM

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dusky hearth yeah windows 11 only supports UEFI (which MBR doesnt support) so you have to use...

they're using win10

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you think we should enable CSM again & see?

crimson zinc Mar 3, 2025, 6:09 AM

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Sata also may be on the bottom left

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:09 AM

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not sure why the partition for win10 install would be set to MBR unless it was done a pretty long time ago?

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:09 AM

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yeah idk either

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personally if possible i would try to download a new iso and try formatting again?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:10 AM

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ya I was thinking either try to fix it with windows installation ISO or even macrium rescue to rebuild the bcdboot thing

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maybe latest BIOS just acts like everyone is gonna be on win11

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:12 AM

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also afaik as long as any OS is using MBR, it would require CSM/legacy mode to be enabled to work

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:13 AM

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eh... I wonder if disable secure boot might get us anywhere?

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if moving from ASMedia to chipset SATA port doesn't work, CSM & disable secure boot are kinda the last things that come to mind

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:13 AM

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it is possible? idk about that part hmm

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:14 AM

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gentle bay

this is what's strangest to me

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:14 AM

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My bad uh

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Update

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Is this it?

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The blue wire

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dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:15 AM

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nope

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you might have to take out your gpu

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would make it easier

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:15 AM

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really crazy cuz it's on the QVL lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:15 AM

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fml

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:16 AM

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the "blue wire" is the usb3 header lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:16 AM

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Are you fr

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:16 AM

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below RAM & 24-pin but not that low

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:16 AM

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gentle bay Are you fr

yeah it's those

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you might be able to just shove it in

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:16 AM

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But I don’t love the blue wire ?

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:17 AM

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if not, you may need to take the gpu out

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Wait I’m confused

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Gotcha that part I get

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:17 AM

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that might be one

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:17 AM

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But

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Thank you for that,
But I meant like which one is the SSD wire 😭

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Cable

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Sorry

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:17 AM

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it would be below that, you're currently plugged into uhh

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:18 AM

#

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the one that looks like two stuck together

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:18 AM

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bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:18 AM

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gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:18 AM

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bitter mason

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Oh thank you

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:18 AM

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yes

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it has a little release thing on it

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you need to push down to remove

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don't just pull hard lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Oh I realize it’s not too bad then

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:19 AM

#

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:19 AM

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but before that

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:19 AM

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push down on the little metal part

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Let me tighten it one last time and give it a boot 😭

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Wait

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Don’t yank it out?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:20 AM

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some have the little release thing & some don't

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just sqeeze the top & bottom of the connector just in case

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:21 AM

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Hmmm ok

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:21 AM

#

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:21 AM

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it takes a small amount of force to remove

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:22 AM

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there's one I have for example

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:22 AM

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in terms of the amount of force needed to remove a sata cable, it's like about how much gravity weighs down your hand

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:22 AM

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Both ends usually have it

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tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:23 AM

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dusky hearth in terms of the amount of force needed to remove a sata cable, it's like about h...

Well my cable is a whole lot stiffer than that

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Like I actually have to push fairly hard with my finger to unlock

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:23 AM

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i meant the pulling out part

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not the clip

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:23 AM

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But it works fine so I guess it's just very new?

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Ah

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Yeah once it unlocks it comes out pretty easy

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But the clip is SUPER stiff

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:24 AM

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if it doesnt come out with that much force, it just means you havent pressed the clip hard enough was what i was trying to say probably explained it without enough context though lol

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:24 AM

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Kek yes

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@dusky hearth do the clips get weaker over time?

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With like a lot of use

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Or it's always gonna be that stiff

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:25 AM

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i mean, they shouldn't get weaker with age since they are usually not constantly in tension

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if you use it a bunch then maybe it'll loosen a bit, but honestly the clip would probably stay as stiff

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:26 AM

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Alright

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:27 AM

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Gotcha

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I got it out

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Clasping my hands together

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Thankfully without removing gpu

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:28 AM

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that's good cuz GPU would've needed screwdrive & all sorts of not fun nonsense

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Factual

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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hopefully the cable makes it to the other connections without needing zip ties cut or anything

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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I don’t even know how to put it back in 😭

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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just have wicked finger grip and twist the screw off by hand frfr

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Or take it out

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Dang

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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also you dont have to press the clip to get the sata in usually

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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true

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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just push till it makes a click sound

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:29 AM

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ya & if it's hard to connect flip it over

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cuz it only fits one way

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it's like an L shape connection inside

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:30 AM

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thank you engineers for making everything keyed so you cant plug anything in backwards 🙏

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:30 AM

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Oops

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Ah poop

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:30 AM

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except for 4 pin RGB

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:30 AM

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Okay

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That is reassuring

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I thank you both again for sticking with me

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:31 AM

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dusky hearth thank you engineers for making everything keyed so you cant plug anything in bac...

Unless it's regular rgb lol

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:31 AM

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Kek

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middle finger to the engineers that didnt make 4 pin rgb keyed

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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& usb 3.2 until you've already bent two pins & then realize the stupid little slot thing doesnt line up lol

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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dusky hearth middle finger to the engineers that didnt make 4 pin rgb keyed

Would it still work?

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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no

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Lol I don't think so

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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fries header when turning on

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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iirc ground is the first pin, and the rest are like 5v r g and b led power

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Oh wait 4 pin

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That's 12v tho

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The old non-addressable one

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Addressable 5v is 3 pins

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:33 AM

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wait yeah i remembered it wrong

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:33 AM

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Technically 5v ARGB is keyed

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But you also can plug it in backwards

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:34 AM

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pin 1 is +12v, pin 2 is green (ground) 3 red (ground) 4 blue (ground)

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:34 AM

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But yeah

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:34 AM

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yeah i mixed up which was 12v and 5v 💀

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:34 AM

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4pin 12v RGB sucks anyway

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:34 AM

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I don't remember how but I burned out all the rgb on that silly corsair RAM cooler

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:35 AM

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though honestly, i think 12v would be a better choice since most psus have more 12v capacity than 5v (and it just helps with more rgb)

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:35 AM

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Addressable is much better as a standard
But the software side is 💩

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:35 AM

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why didnt we have 12v argb

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😔

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well, actually iirc it does exist on some mobos?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:36 AM

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OpenRGB is our only hope since it's been like two years & Microsoft has still gotten nowhere integrating it into windows

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It supports like 4 razer devices so far lol

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:36 AM

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lmao

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they probably realized how much effort it would take to support every device

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or even most devices

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and then gave up because it probably wasnt profitable

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:37 AM

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bitter mason OpenRGB is our only hope since it's been like two years & Microsoft has still go...

I still hate how clunky the interface is

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SignalRGB just works but that requires a subscription

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:38 AM

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it's very uh windows 7 looking

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:40 AM

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i like old uis

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because they arent bloated

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well, assuming the backend code is also optimized

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:41 AM

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Okay update

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I was successful in moving the cable

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:41 AM

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but people who use basic windows UIs generally are also the ones who know enough programming to make something that isnt bloated to hell with silly animations and unnecessary graphics

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:41 AM

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I heard a click

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Now time to test

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:43 AM

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fingers crossed

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:43 AM

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HUZZAH

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NOOO

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WHAT THE HELL

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:44 AM

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Rip

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kekw

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:44 AM

#

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Do I disable hot plug 😭

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:44 AM

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No

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Go to boot section

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Look for the boot drive to set it correctly

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You can also in those menus force override into windows

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Yep

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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I’m confused

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Boot option 1

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Click it ?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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Select it and see if the 860 appears

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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all the boot options are UEFI, and their usb is MBR

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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dusky hearth all the boot options are UEFI, and their usb is MBR

Then they need to use CSM

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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wait are they installing windows or trying to boot into an already existing install

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:45 AM

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gosh darnit

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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CSM will let them boot if it's mbr

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Boot

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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existing

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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I’m just trying to boot

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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ahh

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Meaning they need to reinstall as gpt

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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So let me get this straight

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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yeah you need CSM

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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What do I do

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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gentle bay What do I do

Look for the boot override option

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/chainsawman-pochita-dance-denji-chainsaw-gif-26452325

Tenor

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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It reads the drive

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So it'll appear if available

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:46 AM

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Boot override ?

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Where

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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But if not then your boot drive is mbr and you need to run csm in bios to read it

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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manual boot selection

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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😠 heckkk

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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cyan ravine But if not then your boot drive is mbr and you need to run csm in bios to read i...

they mentioned it was mbr before

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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MBR also won't let you avoid CSM so GPT needs to be the reinstall to make it run normally

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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I thought just the usb used for bios update was mbr

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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It was

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It should’ve been

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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hmm

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:47 AM

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The usb?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Yeah

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Was it a stick?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Idk what other type there is

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Bios updates are fat32

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Yes

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yes

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I converted my usb 64gb from Rufus into FAT32

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:48 AM

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hmm

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you dont need a MBR or GPT partition for a usb stick

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i think?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:49 AM

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dusky hearth you dont need a MBR or GPT partition for a usb stick

More than you can't

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But mbr will be forced if 64gb

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:49 AM

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it's just for booting yeah?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:49 AM

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Cos fat32 tables are too small

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I would try looking for the csm option

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Compatibility support mode

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:49 AM

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I forget

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How I even go to there

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To turn it off

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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If it lets you run windows like that then you need to reinstall to turn off csm

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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it might be called legacy boot as well

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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Yeah legacy boot

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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isn't there a way to convert mbr to gpt in cmd?

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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use the search feature on the bios

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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Pls @bitter mason 😭where did we say that we switched from csm at ?

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okie dokie

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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dusky hearth use the search feature on the bios

I didn’t realize it had one thank you

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:50 AM

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Ideally you want csm off like ggood said

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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bitter mason isn't there a way to convert mbr to gpt in cmd?

afaik you'll need to make a new gpt partition?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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that windows OS options

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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But if the windows is installed incorrectly then you need it on to get to windows

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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gentle bay

Yep csm

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Flip it and try it

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If it works you should reinstall windows properly as gpt

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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Back to CSM?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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Yes

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:51 AM

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After that just save and reboot?

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Or

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Yep

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Yep

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Save reboot

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Oh wait

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Wait

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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If it works

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Before I do that

#

#

It changed sorta not really but

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Just leave it at that

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Okie dokie

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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bitter mason isn't there a way to convert mbr to gpt in cmd?

apparently it can even be done on gui lmao

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Save and reboot

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:52 AM

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dusky hearth apparently it can even be done on gui lmao

Doesn't always work

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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Okay let’s see

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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Flat reinstall from wipe is the best method

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/mbr-to-gpt

MBR2GPT

Use MBR2GPT.EXE to convert a disk from the Master Boot Record (MBR) to the GUID Partition Table (GPT) partition style without modifying or deleting data on the disk.

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seems risky tho lol

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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yeah, reinstall would be the best choice

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

#

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WAIT

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NO WYA

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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MBR confirmed

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

#

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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Told u

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:53 AM

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It just works

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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HUZZAH

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I love you all

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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It takes having this issue yourself to know what it is

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Lmfao

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Still you should reinstall with GPT later

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Now @gentle bay

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Please allow me to give you guys $5 for beer money or something

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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besides disabling secure boot & attempting to do that wipe keys thing for TPM, I'm running out of ideas here wth

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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You need to make your install gpt

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Then turn off csm

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Wait what

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It’s not over ?

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Oh no

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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No

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Yeah you'll want to reinstall Windows with a GPT partition

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Hhhhhhh

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But why

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:54 AM

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It's just much more secure and stable

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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gentle bay But why

Your drive was borked from the beginning mate

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Like better in every way as far as I can tell

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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also enable xmp is your memory has it

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lol

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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cyan ravine It takes having this issue yourself to know what it is

funny, i know what this is from me originally not knowing what legacy boot was while i was exploring the bios Kek and then finding out the difference between MBR and GPT

the knowledge i gained from googling like 5 years ago at this point has finally come in clutch BigBrainPepe

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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I mean it'll work? Like this

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But you need csm off really

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Oh

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Yeah Secure Boot is pretty big

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Oh man

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Consider it like this as "not ideal"

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Question but

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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It's alright

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Does that bottle neck performance or ?

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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It's not that scary, we're here to help

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Just better not to gamble the secure boot ?

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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gentle bay Does that bottle neck performance or ?

You lose security

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Oh

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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You shouldn't lose fps

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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gentle bay Just better not to gamble the secure boot ?

It's fine until it's not

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Hmm

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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But it's gonna make it less secure and stable over time

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:56 AM

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Which is the same as saying it's not

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You should fix it up imo

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 6:57 AM

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Now would be ideal
But at THE WORST when you reinstall windows next time

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:57 AM

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lmao how did this not work 3 hours ago??

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 6:57 AM

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Idk

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You missed a button maybe

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Lol

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:57 AM

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ah heck well

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:57 AM

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Also do I need to install any of these or jsut preference ?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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all's well that ends well ig

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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bitter mason lmao how did this not work 3 hours ago??

Uhhh…. Idk

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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cyan ravine It's fine until it's not

Understandable

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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tbf, how likely is it that you would accidentally get like a bootkit or whatever malware randomly nowadays 🧐

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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gentle bay Also do I need to install any of these or jsut preference ?

nooooooo

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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I suppose so

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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no norton trash

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plz lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Uhhh very very likely

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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gentle bay Also do I need to install any of these or jsut preference ?

nothing but the ones labeled drivers

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Norton bad I agree

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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no drop box

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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So all drivers

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No Norton

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No drop bots

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:58 AM

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everything else is just bloatware

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:59 AM

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cpu-z is alright aida sucks without paying for it

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:59 AM

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Ah I see

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So no to MSI center

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 6:59 AM

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MSI center is bloatware just to change rgb

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 6:59 AM

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it's one of the most useless pieces of software in existence

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 6:59 AM

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Oh

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😭😭😭

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Thank you all for letting me know

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No Aida ?

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Or yes to Aida

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 7:00 AM

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dont need

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:00 AM

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openrgb instead of msi center

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:00 AM

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Okie dokie

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:00 AM

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isn't there an msi rgb thing that doesn't include the rest of msi center?

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ehh aura is asus... umm

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:00 AM

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Uh

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Idk

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Downloading chipset and such

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:01 AM

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mystic light

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:01 AM

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I’ll lyk when it’s done then onto gpt

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:01 AM

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https://www.msi.com/Landing/mystic-light-rgb-gaming-pc/

Mystic Light RGB Gaming PC | MSI

Get hyped with the glowing vibes! Check out MSI Mystic Light compatible products and build the light-synchronized RGB gaming pc of your own.

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I think thatll control rgb without all the other nonsense

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or this https://openrgb.org/

OpenRGB

Open source RGB lighting control that doesn't depend on manufacturer software

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:03 AM

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ooo okok

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thank you mr corgi enthusiast

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:04 AM

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dusky hearth tbf, how likely is it that you would accidentally get like a bootkit or whatever...

You know

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:04 AM

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haha np

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:04 AM

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this got me thinking

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And yes

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genuinely

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:04 AM

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sorry we didn't get here sooner

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:04 AM

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lmk if i can buy you a beer 😭

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and no worries !

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Im just happy that it is resolved

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 7:05 AM

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If anybody is deserving of a beer it's you to take the edge off lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:05 AM

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You're probs right 343,

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i probably had something idk

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😭 fair point

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:05 AM

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haha nah no worries. Let us know if anything else goes awry lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:05 AM

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still, its worth celebrating with you guys since you all cared and pitched in to help

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will do

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i wish i can leave a 5 star review somewhere

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:06 AM

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I just see it as people helped me before so I should do the same lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:07 AM

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You all have my genuine thanks---thank you for your patience in dealing with my inexperience. fr lmk if yall need a drink some time. It'll be an I.O.U

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ah i see

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the ripple effect

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as they call it

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:07 AM

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plus I sent you in circles anyway haha

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:07 AM

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nawww the circles was needed for the debugging process

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to eliminate the possibilities

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so i understand that

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dw

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:07 AM

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haha okay

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:08 AM

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yesyes

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drivers should be done shortly, but i had no clue that my boot was chalked from the start..

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:08 AM

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you may wanna check amd website to make sure chipset drivers are latest

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:09 AM

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Ah tru

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i did that before hand

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:09 AM

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also in windows update>advanced>optional updates

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:09 AM

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gentle bay You all have my genuine thanks---thank you for your patience in dealing with my ...

It's no worries mate. I do it often while I'm just watching tv lmao

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:09 AM

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they hide drivers there sometimes

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:09 AM

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Comes from going through these things myself messing with hardware

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:09 AM

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bitter mason also in windows update>advanced>optional updates

ah gotcha yeah ill check that out

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:10 AM

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cyan ravine It's no worries mate. I do it often while I'm just watching tv lmao

haha i appreciate it 🫡

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i see

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gaining knowledge through troubleshooting

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:10 AM

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Tech is so fickle, takes sometimes knowing the exact problem else you spend hours trying every other idea

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Little tip for ya, we often keep our pinned notes up to date

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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true

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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Helpful tools

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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very specific

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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fr activate xmp/dhcp in bios next time you're there

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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kinda similar to enzymes with lock & key mechanisms

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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It can especially be annoying when you have a modern PC

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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Like #windows-ios has a great debloat script

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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gentle bay kinda similar to enzymes with lock & key mechanisms

You into biology?

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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can't have that pretty trident z running at 2133

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:11 AM

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bitter mason fr activate xmp/dhcp in bios next time you're there

okie dokie no clue what they may be but ill find out

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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gentle bay okie dokie no clue what they may be but ill find out

Could be called DOCP

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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make RAM run faster

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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tawny violet You into biology?

Yeap. I am a horticulture major 😭 plant focused

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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oh ya docp close enough lol

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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It's like an automated thing to make memory run at the speeds it's supposed to be

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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tawny violet Could be called DOCP

hmm ill see it after this then actually

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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cyan ravine Like <#657753562247462922> has a great debloat script

Gets rid of a lot of windows junk on an install

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Internet buggin

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Yay

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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To get the performance you paid for lel

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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Ah there it is

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:12 AM

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i was wondering why my ram was bottle necking so hard for 5 years 😭

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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@dusky hearth I think ima turn off cake now

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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oo icic

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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I keep getting intermittent breaks

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Don't worry man I've done stupider things in my time

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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gentle bay i was wondering why my ram was bottle necking so hard for 5 years 😭

Yeah csm plays into this btw

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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You're fine

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Oh thats why

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okok

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Wait

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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in that case brb

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i restart

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Oh PC's are a huge rabbit hole

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Can't you use XMP with CSM?

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:13 AM

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So it sems

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seems

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no clue how deep the depths go

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:14 AM

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tawny violet Can't you use XMP with CSM?

You can but if a board defaults to it most people don't realise it's like a full reset

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 7:14 AM

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cyan ravine <@297812853174566913> I think ima turn off cake now

The cake is a lie

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:14 AM

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dusky hearth The cake is a lie

It throttled my net for good latency but it's been annoying me for a few days now

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I don't like dropouts

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 7:16 AM

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I wonder if that has to do more with the inconsistent Aussie internet or cake evilHMMMMMM

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:17 AM

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dusky hearth The cake is a lie

🍰

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cake

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but back to this

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uh

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So what first?

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GPT right?

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but if i have to reinstall windows would that mean

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:17 AM

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Back your stuff up

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Move it off the ssd if needed

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:17 AM

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hmm

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:17 AM

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Then you'll wipe the ssd in bios

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:18 AM

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oh jeez

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:18 AM

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Then you'll reinstall with a windows formatted usb

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:18 AM

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gentle bay oh jeez

You don't have to do it today man

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But make sure you wipe specifically

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:18 AM

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that is true 😭

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:18 AM

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And redo it soon

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The good news is, if you do this reinstall correctly once, you won't need to do it again

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And again, it's technically ok like this, just not ideal

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Consider it a healthy recommendation but you can still eat junk food DogKek

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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Will do, ill probably call it a night here. Moving forward, Ill keep it in mind to back up my stuff and use GPT (mostlikely ill be back here just to make sure i dont accidentally brick my pc 😭 ), and then to deal with the RAM throttling.

And noted, Ill keep that in mind.

Most importantly, Thank you all again @cyan ravine @dusky hearth @bitter mason for your patience, guidance, and willingness to help 🫡

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ooo ic

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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Oh one more thing, sign into windows settings now

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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interesting

bitter mason Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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npnp

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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now?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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With a microsoft account

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Ye

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Reason is

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You save your windows license

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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oh really?

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wait

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so

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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So you won't need to scramble for another one

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:21 AM

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not my gmail

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like i need a new email via outlook?

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:22 AM

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gentle bay not my gmail

If your gmail is your account then that one

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:22 AM

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oh okok

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:22 AM

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Whatever you use windows with

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:22 AM

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gotcha

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then yeah my gmail

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:22 AM

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But you'll save your key that way, saves headache

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There are other ways, this is the most straightforward

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You sign into the new install as well and boom

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Ez

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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true i was most owrried about the key process and thinking about getting one off ebay again 😭

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okie dokie

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i like the sound of that

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ez

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So that i will do

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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Yeah figured I'd mention it

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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back up mystuff

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mhmm

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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We have other ways but this is easiest

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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and i am glad that you did.

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gotcha

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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Windows is free in many ways

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Lol

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:23 AM

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that is true

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even the standard

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the one with the water mark

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Activate Windows Now

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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Oh I mean the licenses

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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oh

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oh

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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But yeah true

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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ic

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hmmm

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well im just glad that I am able to sleep on this now 😭

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thank you once more for all your help

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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All g

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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ill tackle this again maybe wednesday

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🫡 have a good night/day

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 7:24 AM

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No worries

gentle bay Mar 3, 2025, 7:25 AM

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yessir

vivid gale Mar 3, 2025, 7:27 AM

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I have a notification but cant find ping -_-

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Oh its this

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 7:30 AM

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Lmao

cyan ravine Mar 3, 2025, 8:31 AM

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vivid gale Oh its this

Yeah new roles lol

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:38 AM

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Hmm worth the wait selling my 7900xt for 9070xt prob not

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:39 AM

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I wouldn't honestly

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Not unless stock is strong

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:39 AM

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I mean I have a microcenter like 1 mile away

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:40 AM

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Once you have the 70XT then put it up for sale (though the uplift won't be huge)

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Don't sell it before you have the replacement in hand tbh

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You never know if you get a DOA one or whatnot

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Besides I wouldn't feel rushed to upgrade from an XT rn

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It's still very good

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But that's just my 2 cents it do be your money

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:41 AM

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hmm alright, im guessing performance will be minimal

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:42 AM

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It's gonna be very much comparable

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Like the 9070 XT is supposed to be roughly XTX performance

mossy venture Mar 3, 2025, 11:42 AM

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There's still no saying if we're heading back into 2020-2022 pricing

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I 100% agree with blackhole on keeping the 7900xt

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:42 AM

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You already have a REALLY good GPU in hand
It pays to wait in this environment

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:43 AM

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mossy venture There's still no saying if we're heading back into 2020-2022 pricing

idk the pricing on microcenter but it should be msrp

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:43 AM

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It's not the price itself tbh

mossy venture Mar 3, 2025, 11:43 AM

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If they're in stock

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:43 AM

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But what you can get for it

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See: 5070 Ti launch

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It was TECHNICALLY possible to buy MSRP

But even the second to lowest end models cost more than MSRP

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And MSRP stock was
Maybe 3 cards?

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:44 AM

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dam

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:44 AM

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See the problem?

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:44 AM

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but didn't they said something about amd sending stock like 2 months in advance

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:44 AM

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MSRP means very little if the street price (what you actually have to pay for the model you want) is 2-300 bucks more

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Yes they said "wide availability"

That can mean anything between "We have one more card than nGreedAI did at their launch" to "There's more cards available than demand"

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Never, EVER buy into a promise

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As I said, in this situation it pays to wait a little

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:45 AM

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ok I wait

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:45 AM

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Besides 3rd party benchmarks are not available yet
We don't properly know what the cards can actually do

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They become available on launch day (5th)

shut rampart Mar 3, 2025, 11:46 AM

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thought it was the 6th

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:46 AM

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Wait for those and then you can see what prices and stock is

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 11:46 AM

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shut rampart thought it was the 6th

Could be, NGL I'm swamped with work so might misremember

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Sometime later this week

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Really just a few days

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 12:06 PM

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tawny violet Could be, NGL I'm swamped with work so might misremember

nice to see you again gangy, i decided i wanna get a 14900K

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people told me it’s good asf for multitasking and doing stuff

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ima wait till better deals come out

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the 3080 ti for $500 refurb is out of stock 😔

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 12:08 PM

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broken barn nice to see you again gangy, i decided i wanna get a 14900K

Wow

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That's technically true but like

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14700K exists

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It's also cheaper

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And still super capable in multitasking

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Like it's ~90-95% of a 14900K for way less and probably less likely to kill itself

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AM5 does have the upgrade path tho

charred garden Mar 3, 2025, 12:16 PM

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$375 is a good price for a Sapphire 6700xt new?

mossy venture Mar 3, 2025, 12:17 PM

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No

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New pricing as a whole sucks atm. They were $290-330 for the longest time

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$375 was 7700xt pricing

charred garden Mar 3, 2025, 12:17 PM

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Damn

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Buying used cards isn't risky?

mossy venture Mar 3, 2025, 12:18 PM

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Just make sure you're not getting scammed and nah

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There's a seller i have saved on ebay that refurbs gpus, he doesn't have any good deals up atm but he posts solid deals during the week days

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$330 6800, $260 6700xt, 260-300 2080 ti, etc

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https://www.ebay.com/str/wazno?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=3418065&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

eBay

wazno | eBay Stores

The Wazno Store is America’s #1 source for refurbished GPUs. We specialize in selling new, certified refurbished, open box, and second hand GPUs and CPUs. Our components are certified pre-owned and are guaranteed to deliver high performance standards or your money back.

charred garden Mar 3, 2025, 12:20 PM

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Found some used on ebay for $250 ish, seems like the right choice

mossy venture Mar 3, 2025, 12:20 PM

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r/hardwareswap is also great

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$250 for a 6700xt is solid

charred garden Mar 3, 2025, 12:21 PM

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mossy venture There's a seller i have saved on ebay that refurbs gpus, he doesn't have any goo...

Thanks for the tip I'll keep an eye out

mossy venture Mar 3, 2025, 12:21 PM

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Np

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 12:46 PM

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tawny violet Like it's ~90-95% of a 14900K for way less and probably less likely to kill itse...

ykw, that’s a good asf point

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ima go on my to do list and tell myself to consider a 14700K

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also how is it “less likely to kill itself”

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 12:53 PM

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14900K is really pushing power consumption and voltages to get every ounce of benchmark score

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 1:15 PM

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tawny violet 14900K is *really* pushing power consumption and voltages to get every ounce of ...

you’re a smart ahh feller

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thank you bruh

tawny violet Mar 3, 2025, 1:15 PM

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np

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 1:15 PM

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idk what gpu to get tho i was gonna rely on the refurb

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and people take it away 😔

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sighhhhh

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sighhhhhdhehehhe

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hmm these pc casss advertise good airflow, what if i just build my pc without the case

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my room can be the case

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best airflow ever

analog hearth Mar 3, 2025, 1:19 PM

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Actually could be worse than having a case lol

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Indirect airflow

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Plus dust can accumulate faster

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 1:30 PM

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analog hearth Actually could be worse than having a case lol

maybe i’ll use a vacuum chamber

analog hearth Mar 3, 2025, 1:34 PM

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Sure I guess lol

jagged ember Mar 3, 2025, 2:01 PM

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no way to move the heat tho

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with air

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 2:37 PM

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chat is this a good case https://a.co/d/7BOxuK1

Fractal Design Torrent RGB Black - Light Tint Tempered Glass Panels...

The Torrent is built to maximize cooling potential straight out of the box. Main standouts include a brand-new component layout, the open front grille and five included fans – two of which are our 180 x 38 mm Dynamic PWM or Prisma RGB fans custom-made to achieve maximum air cooling while maintain...

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 2:48 PM

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Hello everyone! I'm currently working on redesigning my living room, and since tax refunds are around the corner, I've received the green light to get a living room PC. This will allow me to avoid dragging my computer out just to play games. However, it must fit within the designated area of our console table.
Here are some stats I can also give you if you are willing to help me (still a novice at building computers from scratch)

My TV is a Samsung - 65" Class Q80T Series QLED 4K UHD (Model - QN65Q80TAFXZA)
The Living room is a Modern style, so a clean, simple-looking case would be a plus
Budget is about 500 - 1,000 (would like to stay closer to 500 if possible)
I mostly play single-player story-driven games. Currently, I'm playing Cyberpunk for her, and we have a bunch of mods on it, so I would like to play it with the mods. Ray tracing isn't needed, but it's a plus if possible.
Would like to play in HDR in 4k or at least comparable
I forgot the height is about 5in tall in the space

That is it. If you are willing to help and have any questions, I'll try my best to answer them! Thank you in advance!

Edited*

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 2:59 PM

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onyx oxide Hello everyone! I'm currently working on redesigning my living room, and since t...

You forgot to add height measurements for the space

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Also you may need to use a hole saw to add some holes for ventilation

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Also if your gaming PC is already good, you could get away with a minipc and streaming the game from your gaming PC to the minipc without needing to build a new system

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As long as you use a wired connection, you will have low latency and good quality image

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Hell

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Ignore the mini PC recommendation, a steam deck with dock will also be great for this application

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Because you can also take the steam deck on the go

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Or if you want to lay down while playing games, you can do that as well

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Way more versatile

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Though the steam deck is less ideal for that due to the weight

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 3:11 PM

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dusky hearth Also you may need to use a hole saw to add some holes for ventilation

Thank you! I actually realized that just before you mentioned it, haha. I've already considered the holes in my plan, but I wasn't sure if my computer could handle streaming games to a mini-PC. I've been looking into it, but I'd appreciate your advice. Here’s what I have currently.

NVIDIA system information report created on: 03/03/2025 10:09:29
NVIDIA App version: 11.0.2.337
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Version 10.0.22631
DirectX runtime version: DirectX 12
Driver: Game Ready Driver - 572.60 - Thu Feb 27, 2025
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor
RAM: 32.0 GB
Storage (4): HDD - 931.5 GB,SSD - 931.5 GB,+2 more

Graphics card
GPU processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
Direct3D feature level: 12_1
CUDA cores: 5888
Graphics clock: 1725 MHz
Resizable bar: No
Memory data rate: 14.00 Gbps
Memory interface: 256-bit
Memory bandwidth: 448.064 GB/s
Total available graphics memory: 24526 MB
Dedicated video memory: 8192 MB GDDR6
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 16334 MB
Video BIOS version: 94.04.46.40.a0
IRQ: Not used
Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen4
Device ID: 10DE 2488 136F196E
Part number: G142 0012

Display (2): Asustek Computer Inc VG245
Resolution: 1080p, 1920 x 1080 (native)
Refresh rate: 60 Hz
Desktop color depth: Highest (32-bit)
HDCP: Supported

Display (1): HP Inc. HP 27ec
Resolution: 1080p, 1080 x 1920 (native)
Refresh rate: 60 Hz
Desktop color depth: Highest (32-bit)
HDCP: Supported

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 3:12 PM

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Hmm

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I don't think your gaming rig can run most games at 4k60

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 3:16 PM

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that's why I'm looking to see if it's possible with a new one. Mine would hit like 45 mostly, but we don't notice it being too jarring for us.

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So... I guess it's not super needed. I mostly just want it to look nice lol

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 3:26 PM

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I wonder
You might be able to downsize the current build (either by just changing the case or you might need to swap to a smaller motherboard) and put it in media cabinet, then spend your tax return on a 4k capable pc

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 3:27 PM

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hmmm...that's a thought...

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 3:28 PM

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I'm sure bacca or someone could probably whip up a 4k capable 1k build fairly easily

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 3:30 PM

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The only problem with that idea is that then I would have the 4k compatible computer. I'm mostly just wanting the living room to be one. Plus I got my PC from NZXT and I don't want to void anything lol

sage thunder Mar 3, 2025, 3:38 PM

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whats better for 32 gigs of ram? (i already have 8x2 so 8x4 would be cheaper) 8x4 or 16x2 and is there a massive difference

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 4:05 PM

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mixing kits are generally not a great idea

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2x 16gb is a better choice most of the time

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 4:08 PM

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onyx oxide The only problem with that idea is that then I would have the 4k compatible comp...

hmm.. a bit more difficult then
idk how nzxt warranties their prebuilt? computers
honestly, i just noticed your monitors and i think i would recommend you spend your tax return on a minipc or steam deck for the tv, and upgrade your pc monitor(s) since they're only 1080p at 24 and 27" lmao

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3070 can handle 1440p gaming easily

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 4:17 PM

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dusky hearth hmm.. a bit more difficult then idk how nzxt warranties their prebuilt? compute...

That's what i was thinking mostly, I just don't know what I should be looking fo in a mini pC

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 4:18 PM

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recent ryzen would be great as the igpu can run light games by itself

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if used for purely just streaming from your pc, then even stuff several gens old will probably handle it, since all the minipc needs to do is decode the video signal and display it

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and send controller/kb&m inputs back to the pc

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 4:20 PM

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hmmmm... ok... anywhere I should start at?

crimson zinc Mar 3, 2025, 4:22 PM

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Nzxt has some strict policies. I’d consult their support first.

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@onyx oxide

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They’re a really poor company to buy from.

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 4:23 PM

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That's what I thought. What about Geekom? Are they any good?

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 4:30 PM

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chat somebody pls find me a gpu for nearly $500, for productivity and gaming hear and there, ai rarely, exporting stuff like videos and audio sometimes, live audio.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C9nbyW

Part List - Intel Core i7-14700K, GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, Fractal Desi...

Part List - Intel Core i7-14700K, GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower

manic cloak Mar 3, 2025, 4:42 PM

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broken barn chat somebody pls find me a gpu for nearly $500, for productivity and gaming hea...

do you have everything?

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if not is there anything that can be changed?

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 4:46 PM

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manic cloak do you have everything?

i dont have anything yet, it’s only a plan for now what’s on that list

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i don’t even got a mobo idea

manic cloak Mar 3, 2025, 4:47 PM

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👍

manic cloak Mar 3, 2025, 4:51 PM

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broken barn i dont have anything yet, it’s only a plan for now what’s on that list

what do you plan on doing for you PC anyways?

broken barn Mar 3, 2025, 4:52 PM

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manic cloak what do you plan on doing for you PC anyways?

gaming here and there, realistically nothing more than fortnite

mainly for productivity is what i wanna focus on, i use ableton for live audio, i wanna talk on discord, i wanna have a lot of shi open at once, lots of chrome tabs, exporting videos here and there, ai stuff here and there, multitasking in general

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which is why i chose the 14700K

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 4:58 PM

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onyx oxide That's what I thought. What about Geekom? Are they any good?

they look decent as a company; they were founded in 2003 which actually says a fair bit considering how cutthroat the tech industry is, but make sure to look at specific product reviews from several sources if possible
and if you're still not sure, you can send one you find in chat and we might be able to help check as well

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idk any specific models to recommend

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 5:00 PM

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so fa I was thinking this one https://www.geekompc.com/geekom-a7-mini-pc-ryzen-7000/

GEEKOM

Power Up with the GEEKOM A7 Mini PC | Ryzen 7000 Series Inside

Discover the GEEKOM A7 Mini PC, featuring the powerful AMD Ryzen 7000 Series. Compact, sleek, and perfect for gaming, multitasking, and creative work. Get yours today!

dusky hearth Mar 3, 2025, 5:01 PM

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honestly overkill for your usecase lol

onyx oxide Mar 3, 2025, 5:02 PM

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lol. I figured I might as well go a little overkill so I don't have to think about it for a while