building-and-recc-chat

[plucky timber]

Whine?

Funny caps?

Or chokes

[rain carbon]

Funny caps?

[plucky timber]

Capacitors

[rain carbon]

Not sure

[plucky timber]

Don't the fans drown out the whine tho

[rain carbon]

Im saying my experience with an asrock boars

[plucky timber]

Hmm

[rain carbon]

Ive got thermalright fans and the whine is louder typically

[plucky timber]

Yikes

What board was it?

[rain carbon]

A620i

Really nice itx board for the price honestly

I probably should have rma'd mine

[golden viper]

Woah

[plucky timber]

The asrock does have flashback

Good

[plucky timber]

oooo

That's a nice one

Decently priced too

[rain carbon]

For sure

[plucky timber]

A chipsets have been getting really good since A520

[rain carbon]

Felix convinced me to get it because he said he knew a guy who could get it to run 650 bios since its actually compatible but the guy just dissappeared off the face of the earth

[plucky timber]

lol

[rain carbon]

Was a big rip lol

Coulda got a 7600 instead

[plucky timber]

Bro got trolled by the aussie

[rain carbon]

Fr

[golden viper]

Any opinions on the asrock x870 pro rs?

[rain carbon]

Dont own one

So couldnt say

[plucky timber]

Eh

I mean

Is there anything you would actually need from an x870?

[golden viper]

10$ more then the suggested asrock board but i like the looks

[plucky timber]

Honestly if it's $10 more

Go for it

[golden viper]

Yeah?

[rain carbon]

10 bucks is worth if the appearance is worth

Your money

Your rules

[plucky timber]

It's not even that outrageous too

[rain carbon]

Not at all

[golden viper]

Yeah just don't want to get an 870 if it's 100% unnecessary

[plucky timber]

$10 is reasonable for aesthetics and the chipset perks

[rain carbon]

10$ is like a mcdonalds meal nowadays

[plucky timber]

I mean do you need it? No?
Is it not worth it? Eh, debatable

[golden viper]

I don't eat fast food lol

[rain carbon]

Good

[plucky timber]

Fast food costs more than a restaurant meal

It's unhealthy AND it's a scam

[rain carbon]

Here its usually about equal in price

[golden viper]

My wife is a great cook and baker by trade. I got hooked up lol

[rain carbon]

Only difference is convenience really

[plucky timber]

Same

But generally for how much food/$

[rain carbon]

Im the cook myself lol

[plucky timber]

Fast food costs more for less food

[rain carbon]

Actually made these last night, little bundt cakes with a homemade black/blueberry jam

[plucky timber]

I can make meals for dollars

Or even pennies

One mcdonalds meal is a week's worth of lunches for me

That is insane

And that is being very generous to mcdonalds

[rain carbon]

I could live on minute rice and be fine honestly

[plucky timber]

By assuming that I'm making my more expensive recipes

Instant rice 💀

[rain carbon]

Im not picky

[plucky timber]

screams in Chinese

[rain carbon]

Trust me id rather prepare rice in a wok

[plucky timber]

We're like Italians

[plucky timber]

Rice cooker

Definitive way to cook rice

[rain carbon]

Depends what youre making really

[plucky timber]

I just bought me a nice rice cooker a couple days ago

[rain carbon]

I like fried rice a bit more

[plucky timber]

It's a cooker and steamer

~$30 USD

[rain carbon]

Hm

[plucky timber]

Best way to make fried rice

Is to use leftover rice

[rain carbon]

I should get one honestly

[plucky timber]

As an Asian I approve

[rain carbon]

I blend in in snow

[plucky timber]

You can technically make an entire meal in a rice cooker

[rain carbon]

Im as white as it gets

[covert vapor]

I've been meaning to get one. Cheap way to pad out my diet with rice rather than junk food

[rain carbon]

Rice and veggies are a go to for me

Maybe a grilled chicken breast or steak

[plucky timber]

Rice + steamed eggs

Easy and cheap dinner

[rain carbon]

Oo yeah

[plucky timber]

Add a bit of meat into the egg

Or maybe make a meat cakr

[covert vapor]

Cheap*. We live in bird flu land

[little osprey]

my dad knows a near famous football player that bakes these. Imagine someone that looks like the rock in an apron making these

[rain carbon]

My family is all about cooking in bulk

[plucky timber]

Oh god

[rain carbon]

My step dad made a 20 pound lasagna once 💀

[plucky timber]

Eggs are so overpriced everywhere

It is unironically cheaper to raise chickens

[golden viper]

You guys are making me hungry.

[plucky timber]

Way cheaper

[covert vapor]

Egg go brrr for $7-9 a pack

[rain carbon]

Ive seen pretty muscley people make the cutest things lol

I did football myself for a little bit

[little osprey]

big bodybuilders bake the cutest stuff

[plucky timber]

Based

[little osprey]

ironic

[rain carbon]

Nah i dont find it ironic tbh

[little osprey]

you ever hear of nothing bundt cakes?

[covert vapor]

I can't really cook in bulk because I don't have enough fridge room to actually store food

[rain carbon]

Im 5'11 220lbs, i make blankets and bake

[plucky timber]

Nah you cook it strategically

I cook stuff that precisely use up one can of [insert ingredient] and one onion/capsicum/whatever

[rain carbon]

I have yee

[plucky timber]

So I don't have to store opened ingredients

[little osprey]

that guy is the guy my dad knows, he's an ex college football player. big guy

[rain carbon]

Ah thats sick

[covert vapor]

If I cook I have to cook and eat it all at once or else I have to toss it because I have offensively limited fridge space to use. In a house we own. With 3 fridge freezers, 3 freezers and two mini fridges 😐

[rain carbon]

Sounds like you need to sell a freezer or two lol

How many people live with you

[covert vapor]

4 in the house total

[plucky timber]

Inefficient fridge space use imo

[covert vapor]

My mother has managed to stuff all of them to the gills

[plucky timber]

It's always the mother

[covert vapor]

And refuses to allow us to clear them out

[plucky timber]

IT'S ALWAYS THE MOTHER

[rain carbon]

I live with 3 and our fridge is usually stocked, its a half fridge half freezer and we have a large freezer in the basement, everythings stocked to the brim

[plucky timber]

I use a single fridge

[rain carbon]

Yikes, sounds like freezer burn and spoiling hell

[plucky timber]

It's not one of those plus size ones either

[covert vapor]

I don't even go in the stand alone freezers because 2 of them can't open and close properly due to all the crap inside

So they've snowed and iced over

[plucky timber]

This is way more than enough space for me

[rain carbon]

Id be fine with that living alone

[golden viper]

@plucky timber same kit you sent correct?

[rain carbon]

Or with one other

[plucky timber]

Not the same but

[covert vapor]

Actually, 3 minifridges, my sister has one

[plucky timber]

Wait

CL36?

Nonono

Look for CL30

[rain carbon]

😭

[covert vapor]

Also my mother buys a ton of junk. And is apparently very very deep in debt

[golden viper]

Was looking for this kit

[rain carbon]

32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory is optimal rn

[golden viper]

Think that's them

Nope... damnit nvm

[plucky timber]

That's CL30

[golden viper]

Damn Intel kit

[plucky timber]

oh

Lmao

[rain carbon]

😭

[mossy venture]

Same difference

Worst case scenario you need to set a specific timing in bios manually

[rain carbon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QzP8TW/teamgroup-t-create-expert-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ctcwd532g6000hc30dc01

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ypRwrH/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdg

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fxdG3C/silicon-power-xpower-zenith-rgb-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdh

These should be good options i believe

[golden viper]

So I could buy the "Intel xmp" kit and it would still work?

[rain carbon]

It's a design standard

[golden viper]

What do you mean

Sorry stupid guy here

[rain carbon]

It's the same as why gpus can connect to both Intel and amd mobos for example

It's software side

[golden viper]

So won't work then

[rain carbon]

It will

Like bacca said

[golden viper]

Just manually ha e to set the timing like bacca said

[rain carbon]

Bacca said you might

Depends what's in bios

I'm sure you can get help with that when the time comes

[golden viper]

So I might have to set something and might not.

[rain carbon]

It takes 2 seconds

Youre overthinking it

[golden viper]

Just depends. But would be more seamless if I just find the amd expo set

[golden viper]

100%

[rain carbon]

I mean youre gonna have to enable xmp anyways lol

[golden viper]

That's what I'm best at.

[rain carbon]

😭

[golden viper]

Ok. I'll look a little longer to see if I can just find the expo set then if I can't I'll go this route.

[rain carbon]

Do what you feel like

[tawny violet]

For how much?

Price matters cuz there are many OLEDs that are 1440p 240hz

[rain carbon]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/new-cooler-master-tempest-27-qhd-oled-monitor?ref=w_cnt_wp_0_87

unless you can get that monitor for cheaper

[mossy venture]

Ooh $484 woled
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZ8Pxr/asrock-phantom-gaming-oled-pgo27qfs-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-pgo27qfs

[runic flare]

Trying to get a new CPU for fortnite, need best performance but don't wanna spend too much on overkill, is the 9800x3d worth it over 7800x3d? or would 14900k be better? Thank you

[rain carbon]

Overkill? Depends. You got a 5090? 7700xt? 710?

[vocal hare]

I mean it’s like 10% performance you gotta see if the price difference is worth it for you

My local Walmart has 7800x3d for 399

If I didn’t already have the 9800x3d that’d be what I bought but for a lot of people the diffence is $30 and for 10% performance I think that’s a justified purchase

[rain carbon]

Also current intel generation is just

No touch

[runic flare]

its 750aud vs 920 for me, 110 usd difference. So more than 10% price difference. So 7800x3d second best option anyway right?

[mossy venture]

Any chance you're fine with aliexpress?

There's a 7800x3d for 370 usd
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807755162613.html

Also a 7700 for $164 but thats besides the point

[mossy venture]

9800x3d is only abt 15% better, you're alr going to be getting high enough frames there won't really be a visual difference to most people

Especially if paired with anything less than a 4090

[runic flare]

😂

ill look on aliexpress tho

[runic flare]

what about a 9950x3d? or is the 7800x3d the best option around that 400-500usd range?

[mossy venture]

LOL

Sorry

[mossy venture]

Ryzen 9s game a bit worse than ryzen 5s/7s do to multi ccd latency

[stoic island]

9800x3d is still the preferred option for gaming

[runic flare]

lol dw, thanks for the idea to look on aliexpress though, found one for $100 cheaper than local but sounds a bit too good to be true, is this legit? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007941462433.html

[runic flare]

so go for 7800x3d?

[stoic island]

I believe szcpu is the right seller, a couple of people here have bought from them before

[stoic island]

Over the other listed options so far considering price, yes

[runic flare]

yeah for the 400-500 price range

[stoic island]

What GPU do you have?

[runic flare]

3070

but since fortnite is very cpu dependent, will it matter?

[stoic island]

What CPU and what resolution are you running it at?

[runic flare]

rn 10850k on 1080p performance mode

[mossy venture]

Yeah seller looks legit
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1101244590

You could look at 7500f/7600/7700 pricing as well if you feel like it

Performance/$ wise they'll likely be much better priced

And they're all abt a 20% downgrade in games

[dusky hearth]

for one? 💀 what the hell goin on there lmao

[runic flare]

probably dont wanna go that low

reckon I'll just get the 7800x3d

thank you

also what would be a good motherboard to pair with it? dont need anything special, just something that will do the job with ddr5. Dont know much about them tho

[stoic island]

Yea I don't think the rest would be a noticeable gain from 10850k, not too sure how CPU bound modern fortnite is, but if it is, 7800x3d should be a good 20%-30% gain if you're fully CPU bound

[stoic island]

Cheapest board that has the USB ports you want, wifi if you need it, some kind of heatsink over the vrms, and have flashback

[runic flare]

Judging by youtube videos its more than 50%

[stoic island]

Nowadays 6000c30 ddr5 tends to be pretty reasonably priced

[stoic island]

50% in a game that's fully CPU bound with a 4090, I'd estimate closer to 30% with a 3070 in Fortnite

Csgo benchmark numbers are kinda meaningless with the fps we're getting nowadays but at least it's useful for something that's mostly CPU bound lol

[runic flare]

this person is getting around a 600 average while I barely get 300 https://youtu.be/yvL-tmVNGvo?si=CFkOLdoeQcVRi1_C

[runic flare]

is that the best ram?

[stoic island]

They're doing something that's pretty different from you then, likely other optimization

[stoic island]

Tends to be the sweet spot right now

Any higher and you may need to tune it to get it stable

6000 is generally stable out of box

[runic flare]

Fortnite tends to run a lot better on newer CPUs, I'm fully optimised and other people on similar cpus get the same results

10900k with 270avrg https://youtu.be/rWZ5h0UpxyY?si=mMhRYwRduXyHxxUv

[runic flare]

alright appreciate that

[stoic island]

Not a useful comparison when it doesn't have 7800x3d and is 10 months older than the other video

Different drivers, actual Fortnite updates, and possibly different settings today makes a difference

[runic flare]

chatgpt suggestedASRock B650M Pro X3D WiFi, thoughts?

[stoic island]

Although one thing is that they're using relatively bad ddr4 ram compared to the ddr5 they're using

Uh I don't think that exists

[runic flare]

😂

B650M Pro X3D WiFi

[stoic island]

Oh apparently it does, but no one sells it rn lol

Be very careful with specific chatgpt suggestions for parts, half the time it doesn't exist, all of the time it can't check the price for you

Assuming Australia, this should be an option, only 1dpc but price seems reasonable
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/67031/msi-b650m-gaming-wifi-motherboard

[runic flare]

nah 4o model gives site source citations, doesnt make those mistakes anymore

[runic flare]

1dpc meaning 2 ram stick slots?

[stoic island]

It's still based off secondary sources most of the time, price data won't be accurate, and it can still hallucinate even if it hallucinates less

[stoic island]

1 dimm per channel, 2 slots total here

[runic flare]

gave me amazon.com link to the motherboard and exact price as mentioned there

[runic flare]

what does dimm mean?

sorry 😅

1 stick per ram channel?

but still 2 channels right?

[stoic island]

Ye

[stoic island]

Did they allow it access to the Internet now? That's a bit concerning lmao

[runic flare]

yup

[stoic island]

Be careful of Amazon scams then, cheapest seller isn't always legit

[runic flare]

don't need wifi btw, still a good option?

[stoic island]

Yea still decent

[runic flare]

alright imma look around see what deals I can get, appreciate all the help

[mossy venture]

The only step up from that mobo would be $270 for an eagle ax, and performance wise it'll be identical

[runic flare]

is a 700W psu enough btw for this upgrade? Calculators say so, but just wanna make sure

[mossy venture]

Model is super important with psus

If you're buying one
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GwkWGX/asus-tuf-gaming-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-750b

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/X33NnQ/adata-xpg-kyber-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-kyber850g-bkcus

[runic flare]

Already have this one https://www.umart.com.au/product/evga-700w-gq-80-gold-power-supply-21e-gq-700w-53856?srsltid=AfmBOopR9uX1d1dxG9_klyouPKyj-NaG1FXbkLRkEQ8NUK4yPwFgios5

[mossy venture]

Yeah you're fine

7800x3d sits around 80w in games

[runic flare]

alright thank you

[mossy venture]

Gq isn't the best but isn't a fire hazard lol

[runic flare]

lasted me 4 years already so shouldnt be too bad right lol

[mossy venture]

When you go to upgrade gpu it'd be good to consider

[mossy venture]

Definitely, it's good for a mid tier gpu like the 3070, but i don't thinn it could handle something with stupid power spikes like a 3080 or 7900xt

[runic flare]

this is super weird, that $600 one doesn't show up on the store page but when I add it to cart from search it shows the same store 🤨

[stoic island]

Only 1 left, it might've reserved it for you as long as it's in your cart lol

It might also have been mislabeled

Double check the listing thoroughly

[runic flare]

also says this on its page hmm

[runic flare]

everything is identical

f it

lets see what I receive 😂

[stoic island]

Yea looks fine to me but can never be sure

[weary galleon]

SZCPU is one of the most reliable Ali cpu sellers that I know of

"computer hardware global store" is considerably less catchy but also tons of sales and good reviews

[runic flare]

Now I go to that same link after buying and it leads to the $700 one 😂 looks like I just snagged a $100 discount for absolutely no reason

[weary galleon]

sometimes there are first time buyer discounts

[runic flare]

Wouldn’t it say something? and it was a different page, both came up in search results, but now the cheaper one is gone

[weary galleon]

idk

[runic flare]

Anyway that’s pretty irrelevant but thanks for the help @stoic island @mossy venture

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[mossy venture]

W

And happy to help

[versed current]

Anyone know any good keyboard for gaming

My 20$ one is just not cutting it anymore

40$ budget

[sage thunder]

IT WORKS! Thank everyone who helped me, so glad its up and working!

[languid nimbus]

nice

[sage thunder]

https://a.co/d/j82w5qE my main, different colors too if u scroll down

[versed current]

Is it accually good

For 20$

[sage thunder]

yeah i got mine for Christmas

@versed current

im probably gonna get the white one soon

its a really good budget mechanical keyboard

[versed current]

Alr

The video isn’t loading

[sage thunder]

oh idk

[analog hearth]

Video won't load what

[sage thunder]

idk

[manic cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589689072692494356/1339812532008914994/76119936476__A1C9EAF1-C7C1-417F-BCC0-057A466D7181.mov?ex=67b0bde8&is=67af6c68&hm=6894a280ded58c7927a43d5604551490e2852be6dfb93e43797ae24e7d18ad9c&

Ya it's just discord being broken as always

it's almost like an image with the video player option 💀

[shrewd gale]

Just realize the graphic card I got go back in stock on newegg

Hopefully I will get it ship soon...

[brazen ocean]

Can I get some help. My pc isnt powering on anymore. When I unplug one of the cables from the motherboard and plug it back in one of the fans starts to spin. What am I doing wrong

[dusky hearth]

Try clearing cmos

[brazen ocean]

It cut on when I slowly plugged it in and held the power button

[potent portal]

Is this a prebuilt or custom built pc? What specs and how old is the machine?

[thorn mural]

7600x or 12600kf

I'd have to buy ddr5 if i go with the 7600x though

and idk how beefy of a cooler a 7600x needs

[potent portal]

7600 non x, cheaper and comes with a cooler

If you got the 7600X it would take just about any single tower cooler, $15-20

[thorn mural]

is the 9600x the successor to the 7600x?

[potent portal]

12600 doesn't have much of an upgrade path available to it but you can always pop a 9800X3D into the AM5 board in a few years and get a +40% boost

[potent portal]

Yes but it's not much better at gaming, about 5% on average

The 9000 series has been lovingly called Zen 5% for this reason

Except the 9800X3D, that thing is a monster

[thorn mural]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax

This board any good?

[potent portal]

Yep one of the better cheap options

[thorn mural]

What memory should i get then, not familiar with ddr5

[potent portal]

You can run an overclocked 7950X on it and it wouldn't have any problems

Aim for 6000 speed, c30 or 32

[thorn mural]

Wow

Just got a 7600x and a motherboard for $200

[potent portal]

Good deal

https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-32gb-ddr5-6000/p/N82E16820301530

[thorn mural]

Ill get it on amazon even though its a whopping 2 cents more i think

[potent portal]

Probably faster shipping that way

[thorn mural]

Idk i like their returns since theres a return kiosk where i work

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FDWPCWZ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[thorn mural]

I already own that one 😂

Im set then

[potent portal]

Perfect

As long as you still have your AM4 bracket because it should be the same for AM5

[thorn mural]

I used it on lga1151 but i still have the box it came in

[vocal hare]

kohls?

[potent portal]

Whole Foods does too now

And there's automated kiosks in more locations for returns

[versed current]

Does it have software?

And can I change the color

[crimson zinc]

OpenRGB is the software to use for everything

[versed current]

Thanks

[analog hearth]

OpenRGB > SignalRGB

[plucky timber]

Imagine using ICue

💀

[languid nimbus]

Bloatware

[versed current]

MageGee 75% Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Red Switch, LED Blue Backlit Keyboard, 87 Keys Compact TKL Wired Computer Keyboard for Windows Laptop PC Gamer - Black/Grey https://a.co/d/iWBkckv

This a good keyboard?

[thorn mural]

Thoughts on newegg refurb gpus?

[vocal hare]

refurbished is always hit or miss

[thorn mural]

how bad is a miss

like doa?

[vocal hare]

i mean i'm sure some people have a real crap experience because they were unlucky

its still buying second hand so ymmv

[potent portal]

Not usually that bad. If it's actually Newegg doing the refurb they test it for basic function.
Worst case is odd issues like screen artifacts when vram gets to a certain % use, and you're covered by a (short) warranty in case of issues like that.

[crude thistle]

I am going to build a streaming pc i dont don't know what hardware to get i know i want to play games in 4k. Also i would like to to back up my videos to my unraid nas bud i also need help building it too

[plucky timber]

Budget?

Do you already have your unraid nas?

And what are you trying do with it?

[crude thistle]

6k and no i dont. i got a gaming pc i was thinking about retrieing but its not ecc

[plucky timber]

That is well in excess

What games do you play?

How much storage for the nas?

[crude thistle]

plex jellyfin backups video project back up audiobook backup ebook backup.

GTA Harry potter COD NBA retro ganes like emulators i plan on live streaming to twitch too.

[plucky timber]

alright

I'll put in 2TB nvme

for the main pc

[plucky timber]

what specs is that by any chance?

you can probably upgrade that to use as the streaming pc or nas

also you don't really need ECC in a consumer user case

[crude thistle]

ooo

o

[plucky timber]

a lot of us here run servers with consumer hardware

[crude thistle]

tre streamer i would like to have mabe 54 tb 64gb ram maybe i9

for the streamer

[plucky timber]

eh?

that's way overkill

[crude thistle]

it is to edit 4k video ? i did not know that

[plucky timber]

you can be efficient with it

[crude thistle]

sweet

[plucky timber]

you can also record at a efficient bitrate

and it'll cut down on the storage costs

an intel cpu might actually be a good idea since it comes with quicksync

hmm

[crude thistle]

what would you recomentd for 4k gaming videos for youtube and twitch

[plucky timber]

I mean

what's the specs of your current pc?

[crude thistle]

12tb x5 -54tb in total r9 5900 32gb ddr4 3600 radaon vii

[plucky timber]

honestly you'd be fine to just upgrade the gpu

for the main pc

you'd be saving thousands

[crude thistle]

ok

[plucky timber]

how much storage do you want for the nas?

[crude thistle]

100rtb at least

100tb

[plucky timber]

uhh

what exactly are you storing on it

why do you need 100TB?

[plucky timber]

@mossy venture any gpu recommendations for this fella?

he wants a 4K gaming pc

gpu prices are inflated as all hell at the moment so I have no idea what to recommend

[crude thistle]

full 4k ripk wirh dolby atmos. Plus i was going to put my edited videos on the nas just in case plus i was going to put the roms on the nas since i dont have fiber optic internet

[plucky timber]

how are they ripped?

you are probably better off buying a used server at the scale of 100TB+

or at least used server hardware

[crude thistle]

i was going to rip my own 4k i modifed my blu ray drive.. ok where do i go? and how do i put it in a rackmount 4u case + nuctua fans to make the server quite

[plucky timber]

as in just buying a used server

[crude thistle]

I dont support bittorrent or p2p i only do my own disks

yes

[plucky timber]

you might want to ask the peeps in #storage-devices for where to find used enterprise hardware

as for the streaming pc upgrade...

this is quite literally the worst possible time to buy a 4K graphics card

[crude thistle]

darn it

[plucky timber]

4080 super the price of 4090s

that single asrock 7900XTX is the only thing not overpriced

[crude thistle]

and where do i get it

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCBG3C/asrock-phantom-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-pg-24go

[crude thistle]

thank you

[plucky timber]

It'll be a massive upgrade from your Radeon VII

that's for sure

but is it the best 4K gpu?

eh

no

but it's quite literally the most powerful gpu that's not at a stupidly inflated price

I wouldn't buy it yet

I'd wait for some second opinions from techies

once they get online

[crude thistle]

i dont really care i plan on upgrading when the prices drop

what what the 45 home lab

[plucky timber]

?

[crude thistle]

45 drives

[plucky timber]

I'm not too familiar with server grade hardware sorry

I'm mostly on the consumer side

[crude thistle]

ok

where would i look i mean on discord

[plucky timber]

#storage-devices

[crude thistle]

ok

could be everyone is alseep

[mossy venture]

Hi

[runic flare]

is this good ram? price is insanely cheap compared to other same spec options https://www.umart.com.au/product/sp-silicon-power-xpower-pulse-32gb-2x16gb-cl30-ddr5-6000mhz-gaming-memory-supports-intel-xmp-amd-expo-udimm-desktop-pc-computer-ram-memory-78455

[crimson zinc]

Silicon power is always a solid option

[mossy venture]

yep good ram

[analog hearth]

Forgot these existed

Anyways, can't wait for Vega to come down in price

[runic flare]

$100 cheaper than other 6000mhz ddr5 cl30 options lol

[crimson zinc]

Silicon gaming is what’s in the wife’s pc

0 problems with it

[dusky hearth]

silicon gaming lmao

[crimson zinc]

Silicon power gaming

That’s what it’s called lmao

[dusky hearth]

we all gaming on silicon

[crude thistle]

hey

[lone flame]

are those prices due to the 5080 kind of sucking and people buying the XTX instead?

[vocal hare]

People bought the xtx because 50 series is unobtainium

[potent portal]

And also because the XTX often matches or beats the 5080 still because it's only a minor upgrade over the 4080

[vocal hare]

Does it beat it?

Thought the average difference was something like 7-12%

[potent portal]

If you count ray tracing then yeah the gap is that much

[vocal hare]

I was aware of the cod win but cod is very oddly AMD favoured

Otherwise it’s close enough to consider the xtx, and when the xtx was around $800 there was a bigger incentive

Too bad the pulse is $920 now

Kinda wish I could have gotten it at that price

[crude thistle]

how much do you think i can get for meshify 2 xl 60tb enterprise hdds 1 is failing i think Ryzen 9 5900x Corsair 850 w modular PSU 32 GB 3600 Non RGB Ram

[crimson zinc]

At least $30

[crude thistle]

$30 dollers

[pliant wedge]

1$

[crude thistle]

lolz

[crimson zinc]

I’ll give you $35

That’s a steal
I know my worth

https://tenor.com/view/richard-vernon-deal-with-it-breakfast-club-paul-gleason-cocky-gif-9848237

[crude thistle]

lol i am going to buy 3090 buy 15 20tb hdds a 16 port hba

[little osprey]

Breakfast club

[thorn mural]

Whats with all the amazon seller scams for pc parts now

???

[languid nimbus]

[potent portal]

People give them money so they do it more. We, collectively as consumers, need to stop falling for it.

[dusky hearth]

that would require people to grow eyes

tbh the real issue is that there is literally absolutely no mandatory classes on cybersec

you have to manually seek out information on how to detect scams

if everyone knew the basics, like at least 80% of the scams i see would be easily found, leaving only the extra sneaky ones

[vocal hare]

the amount of reddit posts I see asking about if this seller thhey bought from was a legit seller and the name is just as if a cat ran across a keyboard

[brittle tinsel]

I currently have a GTX 1060 3GB GPU, I am looking to upgrade in the coming months but I dont want to blow my banks back out (or wallet) What would be a good gpu upgrade that would be a large performance upgrade so I can play games at decent framerates but not cost thousands while maintaining lasting performance for a few years?

[potent portal]

9060 XT most likely

Maybe 9070 depending on how crazy the scalpers get

[brittle tinsel]

alright, what would you recommend if I wanted to stay in the nvidia range?

[potent portal]

4070 ti perhaps

[crimson zinc]

What’s your budget?

[brittle tinsel]

thats where it gets tricky. overall, the budget would be somewhere around 5k but thats to build 3 complete computers and get a graphics card for mine. R9 3900x should still be good for a bit I think. although may need more than 32gb 3600mhz. its getting dated when it comes to tarkov.

[crimson zinc]

$1650 per pc

Sound about right?

Could do am5 builds for each

[brittle tinsel]

idk, I havent been in touch with pc building as a whole.

[crimson zinc]

Gimme a moment and I’ll have a basic list drawn up

[brittle tinsel]

I have amd because I do other things such as programming, modelling, recording and editing. the others would only be gaming builds so I thought about going intel for them as last time I was in touch with computers. amd was multitasking but intel was better for just gaming.

although with 3gb vram I can only really use unity. blender takes awhile to render and I cant even run unreal. I struggle enough with games made by unreal.

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kpccgn

AMD is just better overall nowadays with their X3D CPUs

AM5 is also just a banger compared to Intels latest stuff

Basic list, can be improved, but 3 of those will do plenty

[brittle tinsel]

would you pay the extra for a X3D personally?

[weary galleon]

Needs a gpu for himself

Might drop the 7900xt to something a little cheaper and add some 1440p monitors

[serene onyx]

Guys

This pc is actually gonna piss me off

[pseudo pollen]

ok

[serene onyx]

I just replaced the motherboard

And it’s still not working

But now it doesn’t even post

With a brand new fresh mobo

But with the last one

It would atleast post

To an error

It’s not working at all

Idk what keep going wrong

Brand new cpu

New ram

New Gpu

I tried a new MOBO

AND A DIFFERENT

SSD

still not working.

It’s not posting now

[pseudo pollen]

!!!

[serene onyx]

Do yall know what it could be?

Im genuinely so tired of this pc

[weary galleon]

Power supply?

[serene onyx]

4th time it gave an issue

It could be

But at the same time

Im not sure

[weary galleon]

What error?

[serene onyx]

I don’t even remember

It was like multiple errors

[weary galleon]

Errors are usually useful for troubleshooting

[serene onyx]

It was a few months ago

[serene onyx]

It just said

Couldn’t boot

Trying to boot in recovery mode

But it would never boot into it

It would just shut off mid load

And not turn on unless you flipped the PSU switch and try again

And it would just repeat

I also tried everything else then

New Gpu, ssd, tried 1 ram in each slot with both of the ram,

I know the cpu works cause it’s new

Gpu also worked I tried it with another build

Motherboard for sure works cause I just unboxed it and swapped out everything.

Im going to try a new PSU

But wait, it can’t be cause it worked with the old motherboard and it gave power to the GPU

Im so lost sorry for ranting but this pc, this is the 5th time something happens to it

Motherboard says AMD 5000 series compatible

And the cpu is a RYZEN 7 5700X

It’s compatible right?

Oh, it’s says this

Does it not work with the X?

[covert vapor]

5000 series compatible means all 5000 series cpus are compatible. 5700x is 5000 series

[serene onyx]

The last motherboard worked with it

Ok so it is compatible then

So then why does this pc keep having issues

It doesn’t want to post I just switched out everything.

[potent portal]

This would indicate that the PSU protections were triggered. That could be a bad unit or a bad connection somewhere causing a short.

[serene onyx]

Everything on it is new or a different part that I know 100% works

[serene onyx]

Oh lord I hate swapping psus

Im going to take out the PSU tester, im going to test if its working

Give me a second

[potent portal]

The 5700X is one of the last releases on the AM4 platform so the motherboard may support 5000 series, but not all of them unless you update.

[serene onyx]

The pc does not even post so maybe I do have to update?

Im not sure

Hold on ill send psu test results

[potent portal]

Did you say what model the motherboard was?

[serene onyx]

B550M-A wifi ii

This is good right?

Everything is getting the right voltage

[potent portal]

That's all within tolerance

But it doesn't show behavior under load

[serene onyx]

So the psu is fine

Hm

I guess

This pc is so weird

Im going to try to flash the bios

I already tried clearing cmos

So it’s the last thing I can try

I’ll brb

[potent portal]

That board doesn't have any kind of flashback so you'd need an older CPU to flash the bios with

[serene onyx]

Yeah.

Great.

Hm

I have an older one but I really don’t want to take it out the PC

Im going to have too 😞

Im going to do this tomorrow

[brittle tinsel]

we have decent 144hz 1080p monitors. none of us really plan on playing any higher than 1080p currently.

[shut rampart]

Is this a burn in?

[cyan ravine]

Scratch I think

[rustic terrace]

Bro i hate cable management

[pearl gulch]

If you hate it, can't you just... not do it?

[rustic terrace]

no

[dusky hearth]

real

i hate cable management

but you know what i hate even more

no cable management

[covert vapor]

I hate cables more

Cables power delivery wen

[vocal hare]

cableless?

[covert vapor]

I want to see more arcs in a PC than a Tesla coil or backstock of Arc cards

[vocal hare]

I mean cables kinda hard to remove but I think them testing out back connectors is neat

technically my case is compatible with back connected cables but this wasnt the case I originally planned to build in

[earnest olive]

any recs for a good am5 board with usb 4?

have someone asking about adding thunderbolt 3 to his am4 system but the current motherboard doesn't support it so I feel like getting am5 with usb 4 is a better move than buying a new am4 board and a thunderbolt card

although he is still happy with the performance so a hardware upgrade isn't strictly necessary

[vocal hare]

I believe x870 and x870e are the chipsets with usb4

[potent portal]

They're the ones that have it required, other models can have it too like this one that has dual USB 4 type C ports https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650E-AORUS-PRO-X-USB4-rev-10#kf

[potent portal]

Most of the lower tier chipset models that have USB4 appear to be sold out, or they just have a thunderbolt header which defeats the purpose here. Looks like these might be good options. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=13-145-521R%2C13-119-687R%2C13-162-166%2C13-145-520R&compareall=true

All 4 have dual 40Gbps ports

[serene onyx]

@potent portal

remember the pc from yesterday

Will a R5 2600 work on the motherboard?

[potent portal]

Yes

[serene onyx]

The motherboard doesnt say 2000 series

Ok it will?

[potent portal]

It should but I'll double check just in case

[serene onyx]

Ok thank you

i wanted to know before i take the cpu out the other pc

[potent portal]

Well this looks like one of the rare cases that Zen+ like that is not supported

[serene onyx]

welp

im screwed

in that case i do not have another compatible cpu

Can i reseat the cpu and turn it on without the cooler?

[potent portal]

That's a major oversight from Asus, no Zen+ support AND no flashback 💀

[vocal hare]

Asus be like that

[serene onyx]

Asus sucks

[potent portal]

Yes, but don't leave it on for too long, and you can touch the CPU to see if it gets warm. If it is, that means it's working on something and passed the CPU portion of POST.

[serene onyx]

ok sounds good

thankfully I have enough thermal paste

I will try to reseat it

[vocal hare]

Eh having a spare tube around is always nice

[serene onyx]

yes

its a life saver

[vocal hare]

Never know when you want to spontaneously change coolers

@potent portal I forget did you have a xtx?

[potent portal]

No I have a 3080 ti

Maybe you're thinking of @cyan ravine, I think he had one?

[vocal hare]

Nah

They have a 6750xt apparently

[serene onyx]

ok so

cpu works guys

its warm

still not posting

BUT

one thing i do notice

is

the gpu doe not spin up when powered on

[vocal hare]

Usually doesn’t

[serene onyx]

hm nvm

im lost then

[vocal hare]

Lots of current gpus don’t spin til they hit a threshold in heat

[serene onyx]

I will try a different cpu if my brother lets me take his apart

Ill brb

gona use another cpu

[vocal hare]

What is the issue btw

Not a high enough bios?

[potent portal]

Seems like he has a XTX to me

[serene onyx]

At this pint its had every issue

before i swapped mobo it would not boot

[vocal hare]

So what are the general issues just no post?

[serene onyx]

it would just give a "booting into secure boot"

[vocal hare]

What lights

[serene onyx]

then it would jsut shut off

now w new mobo it doesnt even post

it has none

both of the motherboards didnt havbe any error lights

[vocal hare]

The mobo has no debug lights?

[serene onyx]

nope

neither

[vocal hare]

Wack

[serene onyx]

basically

ive tried everything

[vocal hare]

How low end are these monos

[serene onyx]

they are both around 90+

this new one was 120

[vocal hare]

Feel like at that price they should have debug lights

What mobo

[serene onyx]

Unfortunately neither did

the new one is a B550M-A Wifi ll

the previous was an asus tuf b450?

i dont remember

Ive tried new gpu, cmos, ram (in each slot), new NVME, new mobo

pc still having issues

and the cpu is new

not even 5 months old

just recently purchased and it was working on old mobo

what could the issue be

do yall think its a bad cpu?

I have no way of testing if its a bad cpu

[vocal hare]

Jeez these are barebones

[serene onyx]

yup.

this pc has been a real big pain.

[vocal hare]

You can get like pretty nicest ones for around the same price

Nice*

[serene onyx]

i would buy

but its my cousin

and i dont want him to buy another mobo

this will be the 3rd

last time we thought it was a mobo issue

new mobo got here i swapped everything

still not working

[vocal hare]

It’s just kinda hard to diagnose

You said the previous one at least posted right?

[serene onyx]

Yes

[dusky hearth]

good old days of beep codes

[serene onyx]

Yeah i wish either of these boards had a way of showing the error

[dusky hearth]

it does

[serene onyx]

i DO NOT want to buy a 3rd cpu

[vocal hare]

Man I’m so used to at least debug lights nowadays

[serene onyx]

How

[dusky hearth]

you just need a piezoelectric speaker

[serene onyx]

I do not have that/

[vocal hare]

Third cpu?

[dusky hearth]

or you could probably probe the speaker headers to see when the voltage goes up

[serene onyx]

The cpu was upgraded to the current one

R7 5700 x

original was a r5 5500

even with the og cpu pc still had issues

but not as bad

[brittle tinsel]

is X3D on the AMD cpus worth it? if so, what X3D processor would you recommend. I currently have a 3900x 12 core. I dont really plan on dropping to 8 core but im also not quite sure if the performance of the 8 core X3Ds are better than the 12 core 3900x

[serene onyx]

and where more software based

[vocal hare]

Depends

You a gamer?

[brittle tinsel]

indeed

[dusky hearth]

if you game, 100% (at msrp)

[vocal hare]

It’s good if gaming is very important

[brittle tinsel]

so far the heaviest game I play seems to be escape from tarkov

[vocal hare]

But if you need a workhorse it’s gonna be worse

[brittle tinsel]

so X3D would not be ideal for programming, modeling and or video editing?

[dusky hearth]

it will do fine on those

[vocal hare]

X3d is clocked lower than their not X3d variants

[serene onyx]

so do i just buy a new cpu?

[dusky hearth]

the 3d vcache pretty much only benefits gaming though

[potent portal]

imo yes it's worth it, and yes the 8 core have better gaming performance than the 12 core.
The 5700X3D would be a massive upgrade for you, roughly 40% more frames in some circumstances, particularly CPU limited gaming at 1080p.
It will be worse at multi threaded rendering and modeling due to fewer cores but most of that is done on the GPU now anyway.

[vocal hare]

They also suck less juice

But that’s probably because they are clocked lower

[serene onyx]

im about to buy a r5 5500 for this motherboard

[vocal hare]

Like no lights or anything go when you try to post?

[serene onyx]

will it even work with the motherboard? what if it doesnt post with the new one either

[serene onyx]

Just the rgb

on the mobo

[dusky hearth]

buy a piezo speaker

it's like 5 bucks for 10 of them (you only really need one of them though tbh)

[vocal hare]

Or if you’re not averse to returning stuff and have say a Walmart nearby

[serene onyx]

i have no receipt

CPU is like 4 months old

[vocal hare]

Not that

I mean grabbing a like 5600 from a brick and mortar store

[serene onyx]

I have a best buy

but might aswell let them do the diagnosing

[vocal hare]

Eh

[dusky hearth]

a fair bit of companies specifically say that cpus and such cant be refunded after opened

[vocal hare]

Not all geek squads are built equal

[serene onyx]

Ur right

This is the 5th time this pc has an issue

smh

[vocal hare]

Best Buy is pretty much like Amazon when it comes to returns

[dusky hearth]

amazon doesnt allow cpu returns when opened though

[serene onyx]

so can i swap it there>

[dusky hearth]

specifically stated in their return policy

[serene onyx]

i jsut need to diagnose this

[dusky hearth]

they added it like a few years ago afaik

[vocal hare]

Amazon changed

Crazy

They used to be like whatever we’ll take it

[dusky hearth]

too many people were probably buying a brand new cpu and returning it opened

costco does the same thing as well with tvs

[potent portal]

The issue at costco was people would buy the biggest tv they could, use it for the super bowl, and return it after. They don't sell open box items so they had to slash the screens and throw them away.

Abuse it and lose it

[dusky hearth]

though even with amazon selling open box through their amazon warehouse deals, it's still a loss if people constantly buy new then return the cpu

i assume it happened enough that amazon had enough of it lmao

[vocal hare]

Ngl maybe I shoulda bought a best buy membership

I buy a lot from them and a 60 day return policy for members is kinda nice

Too bad it’s probably not retroactive

[serene onyx]

ok

i found a r5 5500

Putting it in

[vocal hare]

Wdym you found one

Do you just have them growing on your front lawn?

[brittle tinsel]

how well would the 5700X3D handle 1440p? I have no plans on 4k anywhere in the near future but I feel like maybe 1440p wouldnt be that bad to jump to from 1080p (budget wise)

[potent portal]

It's only $6 cheaper to get an open box 7700X vs new on amazon

[vocal hare]

It’ll be fine

[serene onyx]

i wish

[potent portal]

1440p shifts more of the load to the GPU so the CPU has less impact on performance

[vocal hare]

5800x3d is the peak of am4 gaming cpus and the 5700x3d is like at max a 10% perf difference

[potent portal]

The 5800X3D is also impossible to cool

[serene onyx]

pc is not posting with the r5 5500

i can now say

[vocal hare]

Where did you just find a 5500

[serene onyx]

ive actually tried swapping every part

i yoinked irt out my brothers pc

[vocal hare]

Lmao

[dusky hearth]

I wonder if you can return an opened open box cpu 🧐 I didn't see anything about that on the general return policy
Though I assume most may be buying new originally

[vocal hare]

Ngl that’s pretty fast

[serene onyx]

tried 2 cpus on a new mobo

[vocal hare]

Speed racer over here

[serene onyx]

neither worked

Man oh man i speed throuh builds

i love it

[vocal hare]

You tried everything?

[serene onyx]

yup

[vocal hare]

Single stick of ram, etc.

[serene onyx]

ywa

ill try again

[brittle tinsel]

how impossible? I have a 420 AIO but as for as socket. if its AM4 I wouldnt need a new mobo. I think im am4 anyway. what ever the 3900x is

[vocal hare]

I mean if you exhausted all options I guess yeah gotta return the mobo

[brittle tinsel]

R9

[vocal hare]

It’s just AMD really pushed the 5800x3d to its limits

[potent portal]

It will hit tjmax on a 420mm aio

[serene onyx]

it arrived 2 days ago

i opened it yesterday

[vocal hare]

5700x3d is pretty much the same thing with a lower clock speed iirc

So think of the 5800x3d as like the binned juiced out variant

[brittle tinsel]

so the 5700x3d is still am4 aswell?

[vocal hare]

Like how intel used to have those special binned cpus

[serene onyx]

either this part combo is NOT compatible

[vocal hare]

Yes

[serene onyx]

or something is horribly wrong

[vocal hare]

Should just upgrade the bios before it comes in just in case

But if you have a b550 it’s probably fine

Generally you’ll be fine

[brittle tinsel]

could 5700x3d run 3600mhz ddr4? I currently have 32gb but I have been considering a increase to 64gb or maybe more depending

[mossy venture]

b550s were out a long time befoer 5700x3d

[mossy venture]

it should handle 2x32 at 3600

im not gauranteeing it tho

[serene onyx]

new mobo didnt work, new cpu didnt work, new ssd didnt work, new gpu didnt work, ram didnt work.

[vocal hare]

Right 5700x3d is on the newer side

Check your bios just in case

[serene onyx]

i cant cause pc dpes not post

at all

[vocal hare]

I mean you have a 3900x so I’m guessing you might have a b450

[serene onyx]

B550

[brittle tinsel]

what would you recommend with more of a gaurantee in the terms of 64gb or more? or would it be better to switch the a board that runs ddr5 or 6 or what ever we are on now.

[mossy venture]

3200mhz would def be fine. what do you use the pc for?

and youd be swapping cpus too to run ddr5

[vocal hare]

Do you have a need for 64gb or more?

[potent portal]

With 32GB of matched memory absolutely. 64GB might not do that.

[vocal hare]

It’s a whole platform upgrade is expensive

If I had am4 I woulda popped a 5700x3d in but I’m upgrading from z490

[brittle tinsel]

Mainly gaming some games I host servers for my brothers and friends but some of those games use up quite a bit of ram when playing the game and running a server for up to around 8 people (max sometimes its mostly 5-6). then besides that, recording and editing. streaming if I can get better internet or maybe starlink is good for gaming now idk. then I use unity game engine more on the scripting side with 3d modeling coming in last and least important

tarkov also seems to eat about 24gb out of my 32 currently so if I record and play tarkov thats my 32gb used right htere

[vocal hare]

Allocation ain’t really the same as utilization

[mossy venture]

and whats your current build?

[potent portal]

What are you looking at to measure this?

[brittle tinsel]

task manager mostly.

[potent portal]

There's your problem

[vocal hare]

It’s been a while since I recorded while playing but it never took 8 gb of ram to record

[brittle tinsel]

R9 3900x, gtx 1060 3GB (I know, I built this during the gpu shortage and my old 1060 was all I had. havent been able to afford a gpu since.) 32 gb ddr4 3600mhz. I forget the exact watts of the psu but I got a couple of ssds and HDDs

420 arctic AIO

[potent portal]

Task manager shows total usage including apps that aren't running and memory not currently in use but reserved by something

[mossy venture]

you planning on a gpu upgrade?

[vocal hare]

If you want a bigger boost in frames gpu is more of a priority

[brittle tinsel]

as far as the psu I think it was 750 or 850, it was one of the highest or second highest you could get from the D.F Revolution series

[vocal hare]

A 3gb 1060 is def holding you back more than a 3900x

[potent portal]

This, especially if you're considering 1440p at some point soon

[brittle tinsel]

that is the plan. very much so. Just havent really decided on which. I know id like to stick with nvidia and be able to do 1440p unless the difference between 1080p and 1440p breaks the wallet

[vocal hare]

CPU is still important but the high in res you go the more gpu limited you get

Well the monitors are rather cheap now but it’s getting a gpu that’s expensive

As of now that’s your limiting factor

3900x isn’t the greatest anymore but you’ll see more benefit from a gpu upgrade

Even in cpu heavy games

[potent portal]

I went from a 1060 3gb to a 2070 with a R5 2700 and doubled my fps

[brittle tinsel]

it gets the job done for sure. I dont think ive ever seen it go above 60% (task manager) 45%-50% on the dragon center.

[vocal hare]

That

Rarely will you ever see you cpu pegged

[brittle tinsel]

then again though, I play EVERYTHING on lowest settings 1080p to try and hit my monitors 144hz

[serene onyx]

ok guys

i made an entirely new pc

still not working

none of the parts are the same

[vocal hare]

Where are you getting these parts

[serene onyx]

like genuinely

New egg

and amazon

and the funny thing is

all the parts do work

[vocal hare]

No I mean like you just have a bunch on hand ?

[serene onyx]

yes'

[potent portal]

PC of Theseus. I have one of those myself. Replaced every part in it.

Still doesn't work

[serene onyx]

i swapped everything '

dont work

damn

[brittle tinsel]

2070 still holding up to todays titles? with the 1060 I cant play anything that is on the new unreal engine version or using DX12

[potent portal]

My best guess is whatever was bad took out other parts, and switching parts one at a time made it kill the replacement parts as well

[vocal hare]

I would not buy a 2070 in 2025

[serene onyx]

but the replacements work

i tested them

all of them

they are all from different builds

[vocal hare]

Unless you get one for like $80

[potent portal]

It would be good enough, at least you'd have 8GB of VRAM which would solve your unreal issue

[vocal hare]

What is your gpu budget

Assuming you pool that with your cpu budget

[potent portal]

Generally though a 2070 will cost about as much as a 3060 and I'd rather have the 3060

Same performance level but the 3060 has 12GB

[vocal hare]

Well some do

[potent portal]

(don't get the crap-o 8GB model)

[vocal hare]

Not all

[serene onyx]

IT WEOJRD

IT PSOTED

OMG

I TRIED A NEW RAM STICJ

BUT IT DIDNT WORK BEFORE?

WTH

[vocal hare]

Ram is like the first thing to test ngl

[serene onyx]

i did

[potent portal]

And it was one of the first things tested

[vocal hare]

Not with the new frankensteined build though right?

[brittle tinsel]

havent quite figured it out exactly. Unless I can get a personal loan of about 8k or so, I think im working with about 5k to build 3 gaming pcs and upgrade this one. (priority on the gpu)

[potent portal]

ez

[vocal hare]

Why do you need 3 gaming PCs?

Idk maybe it’s because I consider it a luxury albeit a useful one

You can build quite decent PCs for around 1k

It’s a good time for cases rn

Ssds are a bit meh

But yeah 5k is plenty for 3 PCs and an upgrade unless y’all are trying to play 4k

Gpus are dicey rn

[brittle tinsel]

well, I have 3 brothers. we game alot every other week when our oldest brother is home but outside of me having the 3900x and 32gb of ram (needed it for work at the time after my old one died.) they are all 3 still gaming on 16gb ddr3 and i5 4570S cpus. not ideal for this day and age. we all have 1060 3GB

[brittle tinsel]

the goal is 1440p unless its gonna save us money or be better to build them with 1080p in mind.

[vocal hare]

Christ is that 5k budget including monitors?

How were you looking to budget

[brittle tinsel]

not entirely at first. we all have 1080p 144hz monitors. they dont need headsets, mice or keyboards. so just the pc. we could probably get 1440p monitors down the road on payments from best buy or something

[vocal hare]

Like as in splitting up the budget

I mean you can get decent 1440p monitors sub $200 now

Honestly the PCPartPicker $1000 template isn’t the worst

[brittle tinsel]

priority is getting them to ddr4 at the least with cpus that can handle mainly gaming. if we have to roll with the 1060s for a bit thats fine. ive been doing it for years, their problem is cpu and ram bottlenecking them from playing.

[vocal hare]

Prob swap out the 4000d for personal preference or the new frame 4000d

Well the 1k template is a am5 build

Gpu is a lil pricey

Could def be cheaper

Do these need Wi-Fi?

[brittle tinsel]

no wifi. we are all hardwired
are you talking about this $1k build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/JKD48d/great-intel-gaming-build

[vocal hare]

I was looking at the AMD one

This is like a sub $20 difference

Ngl it was pretty spot on for the current pricing

Probably swap the selected power supply for another one though

If you aren’t in a hurry you can see what AMD cooks up

Maybe the prices go down or maybe the prices get worse

Depends on if AMD delivers

[serene onyx]

guys i fixed it

[mossy venture]

going am4 to lga1700 doesn't really make sense imo

[brittle tinsel]

??? im lost

[vocal hare]

Lga1700 is ded going on

[mossy venture]

that list links to an intel cpu doesn't it?

[vocal hare]

No potential upgrades

[brittle tinsel]

that was refering to building my brothers pcs. all 3 of theirs are going to be complete from the ground up. their psus are non modular, the cases have all these gaps and are terrible (cheap prebuilt on payment plans)

[mossy venture]

ohhhh

my bad

[plucky timber]

Oh

Average prebuilt

💀

[mossy venture]

14600kf and z790-s wifi from gigabyte come with free 32gb and 1tb ssd on newegg, $335

grab those

[brittle tinsel]

exactly, you get it. 🤣

[vocal hare]

If I’m being honest the suggested 1k more like 1200 build is not to bad

The am5 one

It’s just the price for the 7800xt is not the greatest rn

[plucky timber]

Cheapest motherboard with crappy vrms, crappy psu, case with sus airflow, potentially contains corsair vengeance

I hate prebuilts

They charge premium prices for the cheapest crap

[vocal hare]

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/PCWG3C/great-amd-gaming-build

this list

but i'd prob swap the psu

and case is personal preference