building-and-recc-chat

[serene onyx]

I’m sure it is

But is the Gpu still good with modern games

[potent portal]

That GPU can't even run several modern games

Like it will crash getting to the menu

[serene onyx]

Sounds about right

Thanks

[fringe rose]

is there a way to check my psu voltage usage? so i know if i have to buy a new psu sooner than later since im using my 650w with my new parts (i returned my 750w one because it came with a defective 24 pin)

[stoic island]

Hwinfo64 can report on the voltage received by mobo, gpuz can report on voltage received by GPU (hwinfo64 might too but I forgot if it does)

[fringe rose]

is there a way to calculate like total? or do i just wait for the randomly occuring pc crash if i used too much lol

[stoic island]

Wdym calculate total

Are you trying to test the most power you use?

[fringe rose]

like, if my psu is 650w, i wanna know how much of it im using total so i know if im being too risky or anything

[stoic island]

You can do occt power test

Or watch power draw while doing p95 small ffts and furmark

[fringe rose]

ooo alr ty!

[potent portal]

This will stress test every component in the system to show an absolute worst case scenario. If it survives 10 minutes of this without shutting off, you're probably ok for gaming.

[stoic island]

Yea occt is a pretty good test for pulling the most power that you would reasonably use out of everything

I find p95 smallffts does better on getting the CPU to draw more but it's not a big difference

[unreal obsidian]

question to all you pros: I’m building first open loop system, I have two radiators for the loop, and wondering if it’s better or matters at all whether to put the second radiator on top as an exhaust or on the bottom as an intake. And or whether it makes a difference. I already have one on the front as an intake. Cooling 14900k + soon to be (hopium) 5080 or sum, but currently a 1080ti water block. or second thought whether I should get a third radiator, but I feel that’s just overkill but idk.

[potent portal]

The only thing that matters is that the pump is not the highest point in the loop

[stoic island]

Iirc testing showed that you barely saw any difference beyond one huge rad, the limitation is the pump rather than having enough radiators, so I would not get 3 rads either way.

[potent portal]

Everything else, loop order, placement, etc is up to you

But yeah don't do 3 rads unless you've got a threadripper with quad 4090s

[stoic island]

Even then it's most likely going to be useless

[unreal obsidian]

aight word. I didn’t think it mattered but the more I dug up on it you just get a lot of opinions not necessarily based on performance. thinking top then just for loop placement. preciate it 🫡

[potent portal]

Yep there's not a lot of performance difference so all there is going to be is opinions

Even if you dig deeper into loop order, putting the GPU before the CPU results in a 2 degree difference, and the reverse is also true

[unreal obsidian]

so like putting gpu first makes it have priority over cpu? And vice versa?

[potent portal]

Yes on a technical level

But it's such a small difference it will have literally zero impact on performance

[unreal obsidian]

fair. yeah the only reason I’m goin about all this is cuz of the whole 14900k overheating phenomenon. wouldn’t have been my first choice for cpu but it was a Christmas gift so I didn’t have much of a choice. Not that I’m complaining but I just don’t want my rig blowing up 💀

[dusky hearth]

i am going to use a triple car radiator

[potent portal]

The thing about that is with the "fixes" Intel put in place it's going to cap at 253W and run at a lower voltage, so it'll be cooler

[potent portal]

Did you see the new MO-RA? It's basically that size

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

that price kinda go crazy

550 euro

[potent portal]

9x 200mm fans tho

Mo fan, mo rad, mo better

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[potent portal]

||this is not actual advice do not buy||

The funny thing is the product photos don't give ANY sense of scale whatsoever, so it just looks like a triple 360

[plucky timber]

At that point just get a heat pump

[potent portal]

For a better sense of scale here's a normal size human

[plucky timber]

I wonder

At what point are we going to start putting compressors in our PC's

[serene onyx]

Are titán x cards good?

[potent portal]

Too dangerous for an average person

[potent portal]

In what context? They're very old by now

[plucky timber]

I'd get a Titan Xp

If you had to

[serene onyx]

Are they still good for gaming?

[plucky timber]

And if they're cheaper than the 1080ti

[serene onyx]

And how much do they sell for used

[plucky timber]

Only if it's cheaper than a 1080ti

[serene onyx]

I found a listing for 3

[plucky timber]

Titan Xp = 1080ti

[serene onyx]

Oh nice

[plucky timber]

Is titan X or Titan Xp

Because Titan X = 980TI

[serene onyx]

Titán x

[potent portal]

Titan X = 980 ti yeah

[plucky timber]

And maxwell also doesn't have driver support nowadays

[serene onyx]

Damn

So not worth it?

I found 3 for 300$

[potent portal]

You mentioned modern games earlier, this is another example of a GPU that cannot run some of them

[serene onyx]

😞

[plucky timber]

Last driver is from 2018

[serene onyx]

Oh jeez

[potent portal]

There's 3 games out now that have a hard requirement for Nvidia 2000+ or AMD 6000+ because they exclusively use ray tracing and you cannot turn it off

[plucky timber]

Post link

Is it Titan X or Titan X pascal

[serene onyx]

I’ll send

https://www.facebook.com/share/15R3Z4irhF/?mibextid=wwXIfr

They are connected

Together

As one

It’s weird

[potent portal]

SLI

[serene onyx]

Yes

[plucky timber]

Yeah that's maxwell

[potent portal]

Funny enough that makes it worse for gaming, not better these days

[plucky timber]

Damn we really live in an age where people don't know SLI was a thing

[serene onyx]

I was searching for some gpus to flip but this is a Gpu I never heard of before

[plucky timber]

They're like the 3090s of the olden days

[serene onyx]

I know it’s a thing but I never seen that Gpu before

[plucky timber]

Or rather

3080 ti super

[serene onyx]

Ah

Dang

[plucky timber]

It's also maxwell

If it was a pascal it'd still be decent

For 1080p

[serene onyx]

I found this dude selling a crap ton of 3060’s I’m waiting for his response, I might get a deal if I’m lucky 😏

[serene onyx]

Dang

Well it was worth a try

[potent portal]

If flipping is your goal then the Titan X does go for about $150, the titan branding makes them valuable even if the GPU isn't really

[plucky timber]

It's maxwell tho

That alone destroys the value

It's only good for collectors

[potent portal]

If it's a build and flip then yeah it's worthless but as a pure flip that could be good for a few bucks

[plucky timber]

True

But lack of driver support is probably the biggest issue with these cards

[serene onyx]

Found a scumbag on fb marketplace selling a r5 3600 with the stock cooler and a stick of ram for 100$

🤦🏽

[serene onyx]

Yeah, I was working on some very cheap pc builds I could flip and came across those gpus

[plucky timber]

It's worth $100... In 2021

[serene onyx]

Yeah ik

I tried to purchase it for like 35$ maybe 40$ he got mad and started telling me off

Horrible dude tbh

[unreal obsidian]

i used to run sli 1080s back in the day

it was tight

[serene onyx]

Thats awesome

I was trying to find local used ones

Can’t find any 🙁

Might try eBay

Yall have any motherboard combos for flipping pcs?

Like any recs

[plucky timber]

For flips?

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[plucky timber]

I'd look for whole pcs

[serene onyx]

I’ve been doing that, found some decent ones, but I keep finding more like used individual parts or part bundles

I’ve been wanting to try those Ali express motherboard combos

I might buy some if this dude responds back regarding these gpus

[manic cloak]

Just wondering what memory type is Corsair’s vengeance 3200 cl16? Like Hynix or Samsung?

[potent portal]

It's a grab bag

Could be anything

But it's usually whatever they scraped off the bottom of the trash bin

And then they set in on a trash PCB

I've seen Samsung B-die come on that bin but it wouldn't run higher than 3400

[plucky timber]

Vengeance is a waste of flash

[topaz rose]

Tbh vengeance does look nice when the rgb isn’t defective

DDR4 vengeance really ain’t bad, ddr5 is when 🤮

[plucky timber]

This is the nzxt argument

Except worse

PSA: Do not purchase Corsair Vengeance under any circumstances (unless it's DDR3)

[topaz rose]

If I may ask, what’s your bases for ddr4 Vengance for being bad?

[stoic island]

notorious for being unstable at xmp

bargain bin dies a lot of the time

random revisions being different dies

[potent portal]

It's the single kit with the most people coming in here with memory problems to have

[plucky timber]

It's not just in here either

[potent portal]

It's at the point where people don't even tell me the specs, just a description of the issue, and I'll say "let me guess, corsair ddr4?" and they're amazed because I'm right.

[plucky timber]

Other tech servers have reported the same issue

And on tech fourms

It's very widespread

[topaz rose]

True

I got lucky

I overclocked mines kek

[potent portal]

Also the only real issue with corsair DDR5 is they'll often lock the PMIC, which prevents you from changing the voltage.

[plucky timber]

What about the quality control?

Or are they just bad for the price rather than bad because they're usually faulty

[topaz rose]

Mid ahhh

[plucky timber]

So it's still "cheapest kit (with same freq and CL) is better"

[topaz rose]

Cl16 prak

[potent portal]

If the difference is small then I'd rather avoid a restrictive brand, for the future when you might want to overclock and need more than 1.25v.

[serene onyx]

I just got a deal for a 6500 XT

85$

[potent portal]

That's about the price of the 5600 XT right now, which beats the 6500 XT by about 50%

The 6500 XT is the single worst GPU that AMD has launched this past decade imo

It's even sometimes worse than the 5500 XT

Particularly on lower end builds where you don't have PCIe 4.0

[serene onyx]

🙁

Oh

Understandable

I just needed something to put into this pc I’m going to flip

[potent portal]

Something from Radeon 5000 series would be good enough

[dusky hearth]

tbf

probably easier to flip something with a 6500xt than a 5500xt since bigger number = better frfr

at least to buyers

[serene onyx]

Yeah

I’m going to slap rgb in this pc to hopefully make it sell quicker

[potent portal]

Only if you want to be the seller that takes advantage of people's ignorance

[potent portal]

This does unironically work

[serene onyx]

I found a motherboard, cpu, and ram combo for 100$ too so this is a pretty decently cheap pc

[serene onyx]

Yeah 😭

[topaz rose]

it works with a 3600 and 5500

same cpu diffrent names at this point

[dusky hearth]

no worse than most prebuilt companies
infinitely better than nzxt

[topaz rose]

thts a new low

[dusky hearth]

lmao

[potent portal]

Actually the 5500 is worse because it's only PCIe 3.0

[dusky hearth]

maybe i should start my own pc rental service frfr

i will rent you a 1080 pc for $50 a month

[topaz rose]

thats intresting

i guess it only matters on gpus that use 8 lanes

[potent portal]

I'd love to see someone put a 4090 on that and wonder why they get low fps

And low util

[plucky timber]

I assume you mean that the vengeance is the restrictive one

[potent portal]

yes

[plucky timber]

Yeah

"Corsair worse than cheapest" meme is real

[potent portal]

If it's $2 more for a better one I'll take that one fr

[plucky timber]

Does that even happen?

[potent portal]

Oh yeah definitely

[plucky timber]

For DDR5 usually corsair is the overpriced one

[topaz rose]

tea,grpi[ [eal

teamgroup peak

[potent portal]

RAM pricing is separated by pennies at this point

[plucky timber]

Yeah I see CL32 and CL30 that's just a ten cents apart

[dusky hearth]

[topaz rose]

cl28 superriority

[potent portal]

I have seen cl28 perform worse than cl32, recently even

[topaz rose]

wtf how

[potent portal]

Something about the memory controller doesn't like it

[topaz rose]

what where the other timings, subs and poo

[potent portal]

Identical, nothing changed but CAS

[topaz rose]

intresint

lemmie guess, ryzen

[potent portal]

Yep

I don't know if it happens on Intel too since normally people that tweak go for higher frequency on that platform

[topaz rose]

us intel folk go for speed

we aint strapped for that

[plucky timber]

intel
speed

[weary galleon]

*memory speed

[inland wadi]

Has anyone that built they pc or know about pc could message me if ya have a second for a question please

[plucky timber]

You can ask the question here

[nimble vigil]

used 3070 or New 7700xt

[plucky timber]

Price of both?

[nimble vigil]

used 3070: 300-400

[plucky timber]

Yeah no

[nimble vigil]

New 7700xt:400-450

[plucky timber]

New def

$350+ is overpriced

And even under $350 is meh

What about used 2080ti?

[nimble vigil]

well im trying to get to 1440p

and with a 5600x

because i play mainly story games

[plucky timber]

2080ti is around 3070 performance

[nimble vigil]

even at 1440p?

[plucky timber]

Might even be better at higher res

Since it has more vram

And ESPECIALLY in AAA

And story games

Where you crank the graphics up

The vram would come in handy

[nimble vigil]

im also looking at the 4070 once it floods the used market with the 50s coming out

[plucky timber]

What about 6900XT?

[nimble vigil]

price?

[plucky timber]

Around $699 new

Not sured about used

That'd outperform a 4070

If you could find it cheap used post 50 series launch

Tariffs may make that tricky

[nimble vigil]

yeah, thats the big headache and the reason ive been looking used

[mossy venture]

6900xt at $700 new is crazy, unless this isn't USD

Id pay around $425 for one atm

6800xt should be like $350-375

[plucky timber]

Oh sorry

[mossy venture]

7700xt should be $410 new

No no worries

[plucky timber]

I meant 7900xt

[mossy venture]

Ahh

Thats a bit too much for the 5600x

[plucky timber]

Yeah do not get the 6900xt

[mossy venture]

At 1440p, a 6900xt/6950xt/3080 ti or lower would be a fine pairing with the 5600x

Something with 12-16gb will last you longer especially for 1440p

[plucky timber]

Bacca

[mossy venture]

Hi

[plucky timber]

In your opinion

Is the 2080ti a better pick than the 3070?

[mossy venture]

Considering you're looking around $400, you should definitely be able to find a 3080 12gb or 6800xt

[plucky timber]

Since 11gb vram

[mossy venture]

There's upsides and downsides, but personally I'm taking the 2080 ti

2080 ti has older dlss and rtx, personally idc. Higher power draw, less stable power draw especially if its an early revision, runs hotter

But that extra vram is nice to have, and imo at the same price makes it a better choice than a 3070

6700xt/6750xt would be better tho

[nimble vigil]

so i just fliped to ebay and 6700xt for 325?

[plucky timber]

Used?

[fringe rose]

random question, got new mobo new cpu. was wondering if it was normal if boot times are supposed to be stupidly slow? im guessing it's for the first few boots since new parts

and also if it's normal for during that boot time red light on mobo to be there, then go away completely after it boots to windows

[nimble vigil]

in my life red light not good-

but i do not know

[potent portal]

Update your bios and it gets faster

Typically

[stoic island]

The debug leds cycling through on startup is normal

[plucky timber]

Red light

Green light

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-red-light-green-light-gif-23191619

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wtf-sokk-trauma-vidman-gif-13583512

[stoic island]

(and yellow and white on asus)

[plucky timber]

You move your ram turns into Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666 CL16

[fringe rose]

oo alr will do when i boot it tommorow.

[fringe rose]

gigabyte mobo. but im just guessing it's normal since it's only before it even goes to the "gigabyte" screen on the start up that it shuts off

[stoic island]

most companies just have 4 leds that light up red, asus does red green white and yellow

[plucky timber]

aSUS

[fringe rose]

i just fjnd it super comical how getting new mobo, my first boot went from the usual 7.9s boot time (atleast according to task manager) all the way to 29.3 LOL

[nimble vigil]

5600x
MSI B550 Pro
Corsair DDR4 3600 32 Gigs
1 tb m.2 NVME (will get more later)
6700xt
Corsair 650w psu

Opinons?

[stoic island]

might want to make sure you have the right drivers for everything btw

[stoic island]

less corsair would be better, but need specifics on the psu

[nimble vigil]

Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

ik im spending more on Fully Modular

[potent portal]

Any memory but that one

[nimble vigil]

yeah?

[potent portal]

Single worst kit in existence

Highest rates of failure and often unable to run rated speed out of the box

[stoic island]

the corsair 3600c18 kit really sucks

[nimble vigil]

Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB?

[potent portal]

better

[stoic island]

RM650 is fine, it's just a bit expensive in general

[nimble vigil]

i hate ppl from my highschool aint gonna hold you, thats where i got my corsair knowlage from and just went "Ok"

[potent portal]

Corsair is one of those brands that used to be good, but aren't now and they're riding that old reputation

[nimble vigil]

650 psu recommendations?

[potent portal]

The power supplies are still good though, because they're not the ones making them lol

[fringe rose]

only thing i installes was new intel cpu so prob nothing to update there, mobi does have gigabyte control center but that's prob bloatware

[stoic island]

I'm partially convinced johnyguru is the only guy keeping corsair's psus good lol

[stoic island]

Yea that's just bloatware

[potent portal]

They were at least the first major brand to push for cybenetics ratings so they seem committed to keeping them good

[fringe rose]

PFFT fair enough. any recommendations how update bios? i heard you usually need a usb but not sure

[potent portal]

Yep you'll need a USB that's FAT32 format

[fringe rose]

aw man

[stoic island]

You have a couple of options, look at your manual

[nimble vigil]

ik gigabyte makes a hell of a gpu but how are theirs psus?

[stoic island]

One explosive, one decent, the rest unproven

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[nimble vigil]

spooky

[stoic island]

it's a great lesson in why knowing specific model matters

ap-gm, pretty decent
p-gm, can blow up

[nimble vigil]

so ud?

[stoic island]

ud-gm is ok

[nimble vigil]

tbh might just go with MSI

[stoic island]

nothing great nothing bad

[potent portal]

UD-GM is B tier, good enough for your setup

[stoic island]

for MSI, A-GF is great, A-BN is ok

[plucky timber]

TUF Bronze is B tier

Tho I doubt they're cheap in the US market

[nimble vigil]

thank all of you for answering my questions

[serene onyx]

Hey guys

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806945468492.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.76f3puokpuokbF&algo_pvid=8dcedcc3-cd42-46aa-804a-6c6cac8ff2c8&algo_exp_id=8dcedcc3-cd42-46aa-804a-6c6cac8ff2c8-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!112.62!40.94!!!823.23!299.23!%402103246617364946091782894e0fe2!12000039510419508!sea!US!4759599889!ACX&curPageLogUid=x4a9a8kuWir1&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

Is this good to be paired with the RX 6500 XT?

[plucky timber]

Do you have any alternatives to the 6500XT?

Pcie gen 3 will cripple performance on it

Due to the 6500XT only having 8 gen 4 lanes because AMD is cheap

[mossy venture]

You could likely find a $40-50 b450, thats be better

Used 2600/3600/2700x, etc. B550/3600 would be nice for gen 4.0

Ik youre reselling but it makes a massive difference for the 6500xt

[potent portal]

PCIe 4.0 started with 500 series chipsets and 3000 series CPUs, with a few exclusions like G sku APUs and the 5500 that stick with 3.0

If you're sticking with a PCIe 3.0 system then you would be better off with a 5500 XT GPU, it will perform noticeably better in that situation

[inland wadi]

I have a
Ryzen 7 2700X
Asus Rog Strix B450 F Gaming
Nvidia GForce RTX2060 Super Mini
G.Skill Ripjaws F4-3600C1 2x8 16 gb
When I was playing my game went to task manager
CPU 45%
Memory 80%
GPU 91% 76 C
I only play GTA Five M and Assetto Corsa
Is any of this bad or what should I change or upgrade? I don’t play to much

[tawny violet]

"Only upgrade once the games you play don't run like you want them to"

[inland wadi]

Well the game has been doing a little lagging and not loading the map as quick

[tawny violet]

What is your goal with it?

60fps?

what resolution do you play at?

[inland wadi]

I dont even know my fps on there i play at 1440

I just want the map to load a little better and less lag

[tawny violet]

do you have an SSD?

[inland wadi]

Also im not sure how to update anything so nothing been updated prob since 2020 like someone was telling me the drivers

Ssd and Hdd

[tawny violet]

at least you load the game from the SSD right?

[inland wadi]

But i put the game on hdd im sure

[tawny violet]

There's your mistake

[inland wadi]

Not 100% sure

[tawny violet]

loading from SSD is the big thing

[inland wadi]

Im double check that

Like i tryed to do the ssd for pc stuff my 1 hdd for games and the next hdd for pics and vids

[tawny violet]

Just transition all your games to an SSD and it'll improve your load times massively

[potent portal]

Second SSD for games would be an easy upgrade suggestion

[tawny violet]

as for lagging I'm not entirely sure how much higher you can go without a CPU upgrade

[inland wadi]

SSD is only a small 250 gb and its filled up my local disk

I only got a 250 cause i was ony using it for windows and stuff

[tawny violet]

but a 5700X3D would be a really good upgrade, and you can combine a 7900 GRE with that

[tawny violet]

2tb SSD (whichever is the cheapest honestly) as your first upgrade

and if that doesn't solve your issues, I'd get a 5700X3D and probably a 7900 GRE

it'd be a big investment, but that's probably the most you can do

[inland wadi]

Stupid question but is it easy to put in a ssd or can i put 2 in my pc?

[tawny violet]

It really isn't hard

I'd just get a 2tb one for starters and go from there

[inland wadi]

Should i get to for my pics / vids editing or that doesnt really matter as much

2

Could you send me which one you recommend me to get and would you get used or no

[tawny violet]

Just get the cheapest 2tb SATA SSD you can get new

I'd not recommend gambling on used storage if you don't know how to check up on it

[inland wadi]

Got it and so like my local disk has 0 room and im not a 100% if my games transfered to my hdd is

is it easy to swap to the ssd

[tawny violet]

Ye just plug it in, format and use

assuming it's SATA

NVME might be more involved cuz the slot might not be easy to access

[inland wadi]

This going to be scary format😭

Im new to this my bad

[tawny violet]

Issokay

[inland wadi]

Lol thanks i hope

Sucks cause i downloaded most things and filled my local disk up all the way

Now im trying to learn about moving them to the hdd but i thought they was already on there

[inland wadi]

My local disk is filled up and trying to unistall 15gb it says of temp files but nothing gets deleted

[forest lava]

I'm returning with an old issue (I never resolved it because I was too busy with life to focus on my pc)

I've found that one thing my computer hates is fullscreen

Terraria (a piss easy to run 2d pixel game) runs at abysmal framerates and flickers, except when I go to windowed mode, then it runs fluidly as it always has on weaker devices for me

I still also get that issue that mostly happens when an AAA game (i.e. Tekken or COD in fullscreen) is open, where other apps fail to update frames correctly

For instance, I could click on #general-chat, and the left third of the screen will adjust accordingly, but the right half will still be on the same screen I'm looking at right now, but will update if my cursor goes across the un-updated frames as if it were an eraser

I've made sure my drivers are fully updated and my GPU is properly installed

Am I gonna have to DDU this

[plucky timber]

if you haven't already

[serene onyx]

i found a 6500 XT for cheaper

65$

I copped it

[plucky timber]

put it on gen 4

Please

Gen 3 will gimp it

[serene onyx]

Yes

https://www.facebook.com/share/19r2kXnBsa/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Tempting

[manic cloak]

hi!

I can try and help

you got a list of your pc parts? Like a pcpp, or if it's prebuilt a link to the exact model?

[forest lava]

I can try to find it

[forest lava]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ThYwPJ

[mossy venture]

You run one monitor or multiple?

[forest lava]

Just the one

1440p 180hz (but this was happening on the previous 1080p 165hz)

[mossy venture]

Yeah I'd try ddu

[manic cloak]

@forest lava DDU isn't that bad I promise

i'd do DDU first

if nothing

try AMD's cleaner

[analog hearth]

The board and everything on it. $200. I have really nice friends :)

(5900X and 64GB)

[cyan ravine]

Whoa

Mice cop

M-

🐭

[analog hearth]

Also getting a 6800 XT from him for $200

[cyan ravine]

Tf

[analog hearth]

I have really nice friends :)
I wasn't lying lol

A water cooled, practically babied like an old man's Vette, 6800 XT

Clicking the "auto overclock" setting in Radeon drivers rather than manually OC'ing

[cyan ravine]

Ur friends with jay leno?

[analog hearth]

The CPU is what I’m worried about though. He tried pushing that as high as he could go with that

[cyan ravine]

Old man like the real elon musk?

[analog hearth]

Nah but that would be sick 💀

[cyan ravine]

Did real elon musk sell you the gpu

[analog hearth]

Lmao

[cyan ravine]

Wait he only uses teslas nvm

[analog hearth]

Elon would sell it for $200 more than what others are selling it at. Business people don't slack on making money

[cyan ravine]

Or he'll cut you a deal cos you'll make him money

[analog hearth]

I'd try to make a deal like that if I could tbh

[cyan ravine]

Remember to show up to real elon's office on monday 7am

123 fake st Springfield

[analog hearth]

💀

[mossy venture]

he uses a tesla k80

[little osprey]

bruh my windows 7 is so annoying

[snow dragon]

fr

[potent portal]

At least Win7 isn't getting full screen ads that crash the computer telling you to upgrade to Win11

[little osprey]

true but it wont even boot anymore

like the lights turn on but black screen

the hdmi port is torn out but its hdmi is connected through the small video card in there

probably need a new motherboard lmao

[weary galleon]

Thoughts on swapping some of my fans around? this new gpu has a blow-through cutout at the end which might feed hot air to the cpu

Current flow

Proposed flow (I'd move the CPU fan to the other side

Whole side of the case is mesh so can't really have too much positive pressure

[weary galleon]

I ended up not doing it, for now at least, because two of the case fans are mounted with zip ties and I don't feel like redoing that

[dusky hearth]

Hmm

You also forgot to make the arrows for the PSU since it looks like it's also intake inside the case

I think the 2nd image makes more sense for your configuration

Should have less turbulence

[weary galleon]

PSU intakes from the front of the case and exhausts out the top

[dusky hearth]

Oh

I saw the cable location and thought it was inside intake

I think I mixed it around lmao

[weary galleon]

No worries

[dusky hearth]

In this case though, hmm

[weary galleon]

But yeah anyways imma try it for a little while without moving anything and see how the cpu temps are

[dusky hearth]

Tbh as long as you're getting air flow in and out of the case in the places that need air, you'll be fine I'd expect

Airflow optimization past that bar is only going to give you minimal difference

[weary galleon]

I've thought about doing custom 3d printed ducting

More of a fun hobby project than a necessity for performance though

[wild sapphire]

alright yall its about that time again where I am going to probably put my 5600x 3070 gpu b550 motar tomhawk motar build to rest its time for a upgrade I think. Could you all help me get a build going I am looking to save it on newegg for awhile so I can make it my goal to eventually buy a new pc. had this rig for a good 5 years. I know the 50 series are coming out but I heard many bad things about them at least so far. So I will still wait and see the reviews but for now lets go with the 40 series cards.

[stoic island]

What's your budget and use for it? Also, any list we make can only be relevant for right now, it'll have to be remade whenever you're about to buy it

[wild sapphire]

well just trying to get a decent build so I am not to far behind cause again I been hearing alot of bad things about the 50 series so price wise lets aim for 1500 again oh a a good air flow case please oh it the build would be for gaming

[little osprey]

Just try both methods and look at cpu temp

[weary galleon]

^

[wild sapphire]

I am fine with just whatever idea you got I will look at it right away

just so I can get a idea of what I need to look at

[dusky hearth]

barely 2 generations old and you are gonna do a full upgrade?

[weary galleon]

-# aliexpress 5700x3d

[dusky hearth]

if the games you play arent struggling to run on your rig, you might want to wait till another generation, or at least until amd unveils the next gen of gpus

[plucky timber]

Full upgrade with those specs is

Ehhh

You'd have to spend a lot for diminishing returns

[wild sapphire]

well I am still all ears though if you got any remmodations

[dusky hearth]

what games do you play

[wild sapphire]

mainly I am just looking to get a bit more of a step up. is the 40 series form my 3070 not really much of a jump up? I play games like warzone overwatch marval rivals not really looking to get into 4k what not. Oh and hunt showdown shows a little lack luster in performance

[mossy venture]

40 series is very bad price/perf

Especially now with low stock

[plucky timber]

Especially if you have a 3070 too

I'd wait 1-2 generations since 50 series might be a disappointment

[jolly cliff]

So what is the best Motherboard for 7700X also for 7800xt

Should i stick with GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2

what about ASUS PRIME B650-PLUS WIFI AMD B650 AM5 Ryzen

[mossy venture]

Well first off, did you order all of the other parts yet and just need a mobo?

Personally I'd suggest the b650 eagle ax or gaming plus wifi

Gigabyte/msi

[jolly cliff]

I did not ordered anything rn

[mossy venture]

Whats your budget for the whole pc?

[jolly cliff]

Ryzen 7700x, Rx 7800 xt

[mossy venture]

If youre just gaming, id highly suggest the 7600x instead. The extra two cores don't help for games

[jolly cliff]

no for everything tbh not only for gaming

[mossy venture]

Whats everything? Do you plan to do anything heavy like coding, music production, video editing, blender, etc?

Or just stuff like streaming, gaming, web browsing

[jolly cliff]

yes streaming gaming, browsing

[mossy venture]

Yeah the 7600x will do the same thing

You should use gpu encoding for streaming anyways

And web browsing can be done with less than one core

[mossy venture]

Are you in the US?

[jolly cliff]

No, from Kuwait

[mossy venture]

Are you ordering off newegg.us or newegg kuwait

I can throw a list together rq

[jolly cliff]

no newegg kuwait

but help me with motherboard

i heard for my friend that gcc is a lot of problems

software problems

[mossy venture]

7600x, b650 eagle ax for mobo, 32gb 6000c30 from teamgroup, 1-2tb ssd ill find exact model later, cheapest 7800xt, montech xr, and 850w thermaltake gf3

[mossy venture]

?

What?

Could also do h5 flow or 903 max for case

[jolly cliff]

gigabyte control center

is a lot of problems

[mossy venture]

Oh nah it's fine

You could go msi b650 gaming plus wifi if you want

Personally I don't like msi bios

https://www.newegg.com/global/kw-en/msi-mag-a750gl-pcie5-750-w-80-plus-gold-certified/p/N82E16817701022

[jolly cliff]

what about GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2

[mossy venture]

If youre fine with an matx mobo, the b650m pro rs wifi is just as good

Overpriced but fine

The difference in cost would be better spent either on gpu or saved

[jolly cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/global/kw-en/asus-90mb1kp0-m0aay0-atx-motherboards-amd-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813119700

what about this

is good price too

its

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/global/kw-en/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-amd-b650-am5/p/N82E16813144628

I suggested this and the eagle ax because they're good at reasonable prices

I don't suggest others because they're either not good or are overpriced.

[jolly cliff]

what about for 7700x, 7800 xt what is the best motherboard

[mossy venture]

If you put a 9950x in a $400 mobo and that mobo here it would perform the same

[jolly cliff]

also eagle and msi ?

[mossy venture]

There isn't a best motherboard, just get a motherboard that won't limit the rest of your pc. I suggested those because they are good products.

The b650 plus from asus is meh

Aight man

I'm done with this

[pearl gulch]

Any recommendations for quick -- travel/vacation-worthy gaming laptops? I have to travel soon and these prices look way cheaper than I was expecting...
Just looking to do light gaming, nothing high intensity. GF sleeps 4-8 hours longer per day than I do and I am trying to fill the void with some live service RPG's I play.

[mossy venture]

@cyan ravine and @obsidian wigeon know laptops the best, id wait for one of them to pop by

[jolly cliff]

i need the toppest without problems thats why i'm afraid lol

[mossy venture]

Theres ofc a few other people here who are knowledgeable abt them theyre just my gotos for laptops

[pearl gulch]

yea I'm a tower PC kind of guy, but I need something and my work laptop is no longer an option...

[mossy venture]

Your pc will perform better if you would spend less on certain areas, and spend more on the gpu or cpu.

[plucky timber]

I just realised this is the same guy from last month

[mossy venture]

A $300 motherboard doesn't improve your performance over a $150 motherboard

[plucky timber]

Isn't this the fourth time you've tried to tell him the same thing

I'm so sorry bacca

[mossy venture]

Of course don't cheap out on components, but that doesnt mean throw money at them.

[jolly cliff]

lol

[mossy venture]

It's like having 128gb ram when your programs barely use 32gb. You have all that ram and absolutely no reason to use it

You have an expensive asf mobo, psu, case, ram (i don't know that, I'm just making an example) and not enough gpu and cpu power to justify it

ACHOO
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqQn2x

[plucky timber]

This might sound a bit unprofessional but

[mossy venture]

All sold by newegg directly

And it should ship to kuwait

[jolly cliff]

nice

[plucky timber]

If you're going to ask for recommendations and then not listen and come back several weeks later and ask the exactly same question

Please don't

It's very disrespectful

[mossy venture]

Tbf

He only asked for a motherboard recc

[jolly cliff]

i did lol

[mossy venture]

Just dont ask me multiple times if the product I'm suggesting is actually OK when im saying it is

[plucky timber]

This is the same guy from last month who came in with different accounts

[mossy venture]

Not mad

But just saying

[jolly cliff]

nicknames*

[plucky timber]

They're new accounts

[mossy venture]

Yeah he just changed his name it was a misunderstanding

[plucky timber]

Some of the other accounts are green

[mossy venture]

Iirc anyways

Idk i can't care that much

[plucky timber]

Yeah I'm not trying to make this a big deal but

Please don't waste our time

[jolly cliff]

sorry guys but thanks for help!

[shut rampart]

I put too much thermal paste on my cpu but its ok, doesn't really hurt the cpu right? and plus I had a contact frame on so it doesn't really get messy

but I feel like my fans are on the wrong way because I can feel the heat from the bottom of the case

[weary galleon]

yes, it's best to keep it out of the pins/socket but other than that, it's non-conductive and can be cleaned with isopropyl alcohol

[versed current]

I kinda did that

Just cuz I wanted to get the best thing possible

[plucky timber]

Oh you don't understand

[versed current]

I don’t

[plucky timber]

You didn't come across as disrespectful to us

[versed current]

@cyan ravine the cpu came and everything should be here by next weekend

I’m so happy for u guys

Cuz I feel like I can trust u

[plucky timber]

We're consumers

And volunteers

[versed current]

That know what u do

So I don’t have to double check the builds

Really makes building my first one less stressful

[mossy venture]

you talking to the wrong dude

[plucky timber]

That's the great thing about this server we find you the best bang for the buck

[plucky timber]

?

[versed current]

Even if I’m hard stuck to Amazon

[mossy venture]

was this dude here

[plucky timber]

He was on a different account

[mossy venture]

oh wait

[versed current]

?

[mossy venture]

i didnt see this

sorry

[plucky timber]

oh lol

[versed current]

It’s fine

I don’t even know

[mossy venture]

i thought you were still talking to the first guy lmao

[versed current]

What that guy was doing

[plucky timber]

Yeah no

[versed current]

Noo

[plucky timber]

I don't want to bring it up again

Cuz it might drive people away

[versed current]

lol

[plucky timber]

Just got a bit annoyed that's all

[versed current]

I get it

I get rlly annoyed when people are not being respectful when they came for your help

This happens to me in bedwars lol

[mossy venture]

im so glad i dont play bw much anymore

[plucky timber]

Bed wars

How nostalgic

I do hate 1.8.9 pvp tho

[versed current]

How good were u

[mossy venture]

i used to daily it with my friends in 2020/21

[versed current]

It’s not that fun

[mossy venture]

i was good but not sweaty good

[versed current]

The new update killed it

[plucky timber]

It's literally a clicking fest post 2020

[versed current]

I just play ranked

[plucky timber]

1.8.9 pvp is so frustrating now

[plucky timber]

Especially if you have latency issues

[mossy venture]

like i was good at pvp, could bridge fast, but people who were top tier easily outplayed me

[plucky timber]

Yeah

[versed current]

YES

[plucky timber]

People can click you and you can't hit them

So annoying

1.9+ pvp is so much better

[versed current]

It’s also server side

[mossy venture]

i started playing mc in like 2013

[plucky timber]

I started ~2013-2015

[versed current]

I can’t do 1.9 cuz I’m to laggy and get 80 fos

[mossy venture]

im still ok at pvp but im washed

[versed current]

Fps

[plucky timber]

Around 1.8

[versed current]

We should play fr

[plucky timber]

I'm a 1.8 player through and through

Hypixel is too sweaty imo

[mossy venture]

let me finish this val game and im down lmao

[versed current]

It is

But everyone is bad

[plucky timber]

Really

[versed current]

Mabye not tonight

[plucky timber]

I'd be down for mc too

[versed current]

Cuz I’m so tired

[plucky timber]

For nostalgia sakes

[mossy venture]

fair

[versed current]

Even thought it’s 7:30

[mossy venture]

it is 11:30

[versed current]

💀

[plucky timber]

2:30pm here

[mossy venture]

oh lmao

[versed current]

Alaskan time is crazy

[plucky timber]

Time zone moment

How is it living in Alaska?

[versed current]

Cold

[plucky timber]

In terms of cost of living

[versed current]

It’s ok

[plucky timber]

And accessibility

[versed current]

Idrk

I’m 14

lol

[plucky timber]

oh lmao

I heard real estate isn't too overpriced there

[versed current]

But i like it

[plucky timber]

With the downside being that it's alaska

[versed current]

Yea

lol

Bad air

Cuz all the fires

But it’s good

I like it

[plucky timber]

Yeah

Lots of nature

[versed current]

Yea

I like the snow

[plucky timber]

We don't get snow in Queensland, Australia sadly

[versed current]

lol

[plucky timber]

At least where I live

[versed current]

That makes sense

Australia is like 80F

[plucky timber]

Literally is

Usually it's more

[versed current]

lol

[plucky timber]

But it's been raining recently

We're actually one of the cooler states atm

[versed current]

So humid

[plucky timber]

We're usually the hottest

[plucky timber]

IT'S SO BAD

[versed current]

lol

The bugs

I hate bugs

[plucky timber]

See

[versed current]

The tiny spiders that make it here make me go crazy

[plucky timber]

We have a lot of bugs

And a lot of bugs that kills bugs

[versed current]

lol

[plucky timber]

Spiders are your friends

[versed current]

I wanna go to Australia

But if I see thos hair ass spiders

I’ll scream so loud

[plucky timber]

The small ones are more annoying ironically

You don't see them coming

[versed current]

lol

[plucky timber]

And they're EVERYWHERE

[versed current]

Yea

[plucky timber]

Once spring comes around there's billions of webs

[versed current]

I couldn’t

If would drive me nuts

What time is it for u in 13 hr

That’s usually when I game

So like if u are awake we could run back some games for ur nostalgia

And win

Cuz I’m crazy I swear

[plucky timber]

like 2-3am unfortunately

[versed current]

yikes

[plucky timber]

Yeah

Time zone moment

[versed current]

What time do u wake

[plucky timber]

Any time from 6-10am

[versed current]

Alr

So like 3pm my time

[plucky timber]

oh nice

[versed current]

We could

If u wanna

I have nothing better

[plucky timber]

Probably not tbh

Haven't played MC 1.8.9 in way too long

It was a good idea tho

Thanks for the offer

[versed current]

Yea

I should try it

But it will drive u away

Cuz of all the sweats

[plucky timber]

Yeah

I tried to get back into mcpvp

Instant death

Before I could realise what happened

[versed current]

Yea

Like

Most ppl that are sweaty

Suck

Cuz u need gamesense

Unlike so other PvP games

Cuz I’m not that good but I know how to win almost every game now

[plucky timber]

Yeah even R6 siege is less sweaty lmao

[versed current]

lol

I haven’t played a game

Besides mc

Ever

[plucky timber]

Ah

Reminds of me back in the day

I was pff

12-13 when I got onto mc

That game was my childhood

[versed current]

Yea

[plucky timber]

I learnt English off Minecraft btw

[versed current]

I’ve played it for like 7 years

[plucky timber]

This isn't my first language

[versed current]

That’s crazy

Thos Korean guy in ranked learned English off ranked

Which was crazy

Cuz he’s fluent now

[plucky timber]

Yeah

I used to watch DanTDM, Stampy, PopularMMOs...

[versed current]

I never got to

They are all gone

Or not as good

[plucky timber]

DanTDM has children

[versed current]

Mineceaft is a dead community

Yea

It’s crazy

[plucky timber]

Stampy retired

[plucky timber]

I'd say it's been replaced with a different generation of MC youtubers

[versed current]

Yea

[plucky timber]

That community moved on and now it's a new community

There are OGs still around like Ethoslab

[versed current]

Like kids content

[plucky timber]

The hermitcraft people are a part of OG MC that still sticks around

[mossy venture]

my names from JeromeASF

[versed current]

It’s not super popular tho

[plucky timber]

Oh my god

JeromeASF

[mossy venture]

my first mc username was TheTrueBacca9

[plucky timber]

Yesss

Ohhh

That's where that came from

[versed current]

🔥

Mine was starporg06

lol

[mossy venture]

ive been too uncreative to think of anything else since then lmao

[versed current]

I became obsessed with corgis

So now it’s qCorgi

[mossy venture]

I think mines TrueBaccaFTW now

[plucky timber]

My steam profile is also the same profile picture I had when the account was created

It's a mario pic

When I was really into mario

I haven't touched it

Nintendo pls don't sue

[mossy venture]

they will

nintendo always sues

[versed current]

I’m finna sleep

It was nice chatti

Chatting

[plucky timber]

gn 👍🏻

[versed current]

Have a good day lol

Do I need to get cable extenders to build pc?

[plucky timber]

Depends on case

They're mostly aesthetics if you have a normal size case

[little osprey]

Is having no hdmi port connected the motherboard the reason my windows 7 won't turn on?

[plucky timber]

Depends in the pc

Is it HP? Dell?

Do you have a dGPU?

[tough beacon]

Bent my Motherboards Capacitor by the GPU and now it's giving me CPU and DRAM red LED Lights.

Any recommended Motherboards? I can only fit a Micro ATX

Readjusted my CPU checked for any damages, then tried out different ram slots and nothing 100% a dead mobo.

[plucky bone]

:(((

[tawdry lance]

I know 5090 is not out, but what would PSU would you guys recommend for a 9800x3D + 5090 build assuming it does not have extremely terrible transients?

[mossy venture]

9800x3d sits around 120w in games, 1000w should be plenty

[tawny violet]

1000 is the recommended

850 could be fine
750 probably only fine with a power limit on the GPU

I believe you can run a 4090 on a 750 if you had an efficient CPU
I don't think that's gonna be the case with the 5090

[mossy venture]

yeah definitely

rm750e ive seen at least two separate occasions running 7800x3d/4090

[tawny violet]

TBF if I bought a 4090

I'd get the 850

[dusky hearth]

need a 1.2k CAD gaming build, tower only

[analog hearth]

Finally somebody cooked in #build-pics
#build-pics message

[neon condor]

I need to figure out a gaming rig thats Micro-Atx with a handle for traveling. Like a travling desktop.

Micro-Atx parts/cases are hard to work with but maybe you guys have some ideas

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QfWR4p

pieces aren’t the best, but you get the gist

[neon condor]

Perfect thanks man, trying to decide if I want to just use my laptop when I move to Tennessee or build a micro-atx desktop & sell my current desktop.

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cNng3w

[little osprey]

Hp

She's been through some things, don't worry

[plucky timber]

Is there supposed to be a dgpu?

[little osprey]

I got a very cheap one

[crimson zinc]

@little osprey I would suggest an upgrade

A whole upgrade

[little osprey]

Wdym

I have my upgrade

I just want to get this one revived

Where the hdmi is supposed to be

You think I'd be better buying a new motherboard?@plucky timber

[dusky hearth]

Don't know if it fits standard ATX though

Iirc HP had some proprietary motherboards for a few years

[plucky timber]

What's the issue again?

It's been an entire day

[little osprey]

Black screen, but lights on the pc still turn on

[valid burrow]

Ello, i made my own build now can someone look if its good or if i need to change anything?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ravendoux/saved/#view=6LrRzy

[little osprey]

There's some old refurbished ones

[plucky timber]

Please post the raw link without a login

[valid burrow]

Ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ravendoux/saved/#view=6LrRzy

Idk if its right now?

Im on a new phone and the settings are wierd on it

[plucky timber]

nope

It should show pcpp.com/[string]

[valid burrow]

Hmmm

[stoic island]

You can also make the list public

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3rccNc

Like this @valid burrow

The link should look similar

[valid burrow]

Hmmm

Ok

[little osprey]

I read it might be something with my SSD but wonder if it's because the hdmi connection is severed

[stoic island]

If you edit a saved list it brings you to a page where you can grab the actual link

[valid burrow]

Ohh ok

[stoic island]

which turns that link, which is tied to your account, into a link that's not tied to you

[valid burrow]

Ok

On it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w7pw3w

Soooo

[stoic island]

that works

[valid burrow]

can i install a Windows 10 for free?

[stoic island]

Yes, as long as you have an extra usb stick, you can install windows without an activation key

[valid burrow]

How

[stoic island]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d

[valid burrow]

Ohh thanks

[stoic island]

I would make some changes, what's your budget for this?

[valid burrow]

7000 sek

A bit less than 700euro i think

[stoic island]

You can use se.pcpartpicker.com then, that list is a good bit over unless you're using local stores?
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/w7pw3w

[valid burrow]

I need the 32gb ram and the 2tb ssd

[stoic island]

Or are you trying to buy the parts while somewhere else?

[valid burrow]

No i just wanna know what parts i can get for the price, approximately

[stoic island]

Prices in the US are pretty different from other countries, are you trying to look at parts in the US or parts in Sweden?

[valid burrow]

Im gonna buy them on friday

[valid burrow]

Sweden

Its easier with guarantee

[stoic island]

Seems like it'll end up being more expensive than 7000sek even cutting some corners there
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/fXFNpK

[valid burrow]

Ill see

Some of them arent available is Swedish shops

The case, power supply and memory

[stoic island]

What exactly are you using?

[valid burrow]

What do u mean?

[stoic island]

What store?

The list has items using either amazon.se or webhallen.com

[valid burrow]

Proshop, webbhallen, komplett, netonnet

[stoic island]

So Amazon is not possible?

[valid burrow]

No

I think i can survive without 2tb ssd

1tb ssd can be fine

But a fish tank case would be nice instead

Montech XR ATX Mid Tower Case is nice but expensive

[mossy venture]

Any chance you can get a 5600/x over the 5500?

[valid burrow]

Thought about that

[mossy venture]

It's far better and supports pcie 4.0, which isn't as important for the 6600 as the 6500xt, but its still good to have

[valid burrow]

But it is to expensive i think

[mossy venture]

The 5500 is basically a renamed 3600 that doesn't support pcie 4.0

[valid burrow]

My max budget is 7000 sek

[stoic island]

Updated to not use Amazon, still 1000sek over budget
https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/m24fpK

[valid burrow]

Ono

[mossy venture]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/NDTckf

Oh but that's with amazon

[valid burrow]

Potential incompatiblities

Red text

[mossy venture]

Just a mobo bios version warning, it's a non issue

The motherboard has a bios flashback button

12100f is 800kr, but thats only on amazon

[valid burrow]

Yea, my parents want me to only buy from "Swedish stores" because of the guarantee is safer here

[dusky hearth]

they dont trust first party amazon?

[valid burrow]

No they think Amazon by experience have bad customer support

[dusky hearth]

damn lmao

[mossy venture]

I hate bezos as much as the next person but I wouldnt pay more to avoid amazon

Ik it's not your choice it's your parents

[topaz rose]

Chat, is a 3080 used good upgrade from a 4060

[mossy venture]

Depends on price and your psu

Also which 3080 is it, 10gb or 12?

Personally if I'm upgrading atp I'm going for a 12-16gb card, but raw performance wise the 3080 is a lot better either way. It's like a 50% upgrade

[topaz rose]

It’s for my friend, not sure which psu but I belive it’s 650w with a 5500 as a cpu, and the 10gb cause 12gb doesn’t seem easy to find

Psu doesn’t seem to be a concern to me with the cpu being such low power

[weary galleon]

Not sure about a 3080 on 650w

I was looking at maybe getting one and it pulls over 300W gaming with peaks to around 400w

[topaz rose]

Mhh so I’ll just Undervolt if problems happen kek

Nothing a power cap can’t fix

[weary galleon]

Undervolt can help some, but a power cap is likely going to reduce performance

[topaz rose]

Im sure my friend honestly won’t care

I’ll ask which psu

[dusky hearth]

Bump

[mossy venture]

The 3080 will not be fine on a 650w, the 5500 will heavily limit the 3080, and whats the cost

[mossy venture]

This isn't how 3080s work

[topaz rose]

So I can’t go into Msi burner and say, 250w go

[mossy venture]

3080s have very high power spikes to the point it was tripping high quality 850w psus

[topaz rose]

wtf

4070 it is then

[mossy venture]

A 650w, especially one we don't know the name of, will not be ok.

[mossy venture]

40 series power spikes are much more controlled than 40 series

3080/90 would spike up to 3x their regular power

4070 id trust on a decent 450w with a 5500 lmao

[topaz rose]

Kek

4070 it is

5500 and 4070 combo go brrr

[cyan ravine]

TPU and any other site with PSU suggestions don't cover the fact GA102 (3080+) have up to 600W transients

So yeah Bacca is completely correct

[topaz rose]

L tpu

[stoic island]

The suggests may or may not apply depending on how sensitive the PSUs ocp is, the recommendation is going to work fine for average power

It's more of a problem for multi rail units, but it can also be a problem for like a 650w single rail unit

[cyan ravine]

It also doesn't talk about units that can handle power excursion spec

Which was a post-ampere technology

[cyan ravine]

Ye as long as the psu is good but the cpu isn't aggressive power, it can work

I have tripped a 3080 on 750W before. The psu quality matters a lot

[stoic island]

Theres no good way to tell if it'll work or not, don't think anyone even tests for <20ms spikes, iirc 20ms is the lowest people test for

[cyan ravine]

GN did tests I think for sub 20

[stoic island]

For the PSU?

[cyan ravine]

For ampere

It also is a case of polling, sensors can still detect at that instant point of transmission that the power is way beyond spec

For example, the 4090 can be gaming at like, 300W, then out of nowhere the rails report 700W in a single moment

Lol

The nomenclature is sub 20 is generally ignored but it can still cause issues

Though the 4090 is a different beast, the idea is similar, just not as high lol

[stoic island]

Yea I'm just referring to how like how earlier Seasonic gx/px were really sensitive to those sub 20 spikes and would often trip when 30xx released, there's no good way to tell if the PSU is going to be sensitive to it or not, and how sensitive it'll be

[cyan ravine]

I have one of those yeah

[topaz rose]

What are other used gpus to look out for

[cyan ravine]

Rdna 2 is just as bad if not worse

Both gens improved a lot going on after that as GN was making opinion pieces about bad power

[topaz rose]

Rdna2 6000 gpus

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Older can also apply if the vbios is stupid high

Like 2080 Ti's are ridiculous on 2x8