#building-and-recc-chat

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cyan ravine
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They have no wire to the mobo just a dongle

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"Wireless"

flint sapphire
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pepehmmm im looking at this giant usb

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i think id rather have wires...

cyan ravine
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Imagine bragging about these

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Then also needing to restart pc twice just to make the rgb software work for a minute

flint sapphire
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its like blocking other ports

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have you seen it

cyan ravine
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Yeah man

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All my extra i/o on my x870E strix

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Cos that's who I'd be buying this

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I don't need them

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I'm wireless

flint sapphire
cyan ravine
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Holy hell

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I was joking

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That's huge

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Omg it probably needs it too

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It's trying to communicate

flint sapphire
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oh no

cyan ravine
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Inside a metal box

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ROFL

flint sapphire
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would you rather, deal with icue or the giant dongle

cyan ravine
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Wireless kek

flint sapphire
cyan ravine
flint sapphire
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currently building a future proof pc

analog hearth
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lol that’s funny

cyan ravine
flint sapphire
cyan ravine
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💀

flint sapphire
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heck yeah its clearly future proof

cyan ravine
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yeah obv

flint sapphire
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the most future proof

cyan ravine
flint sapphire
mossy venture
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No gen 5 ssd smh

rain carbon
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Felix there's a prevalent lack of coffee in my dms

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Guy died 😔

flint sapphire
mossy venture
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I saw $340 and 4tb and just assumed it was gen 4 lmao

cyan ravine
fallow knot
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Is there any reason why the z790 isn’t picking up my Ethernet connection?

potent portal
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Missing driver probably

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You'll find it on the motherboard support page

fallow knot
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Aight so not only do I need to change my pin, but I can’t access the internet to change it

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Wth is this

potent portal
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Windows moment 🪟

fallow knot
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Whoever thought up of needing internet to access changing pins needs the CEO treatment

potent portal
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Sounds like reinstallation time to me but you could try injecting the driver directly into system32

fallow knot
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I just reinstalled it

potent portal
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If you want, I have a script you can put in the install USB that creates a local account and skips many installation steps including the net check

fallow knot
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Bruh wut now I still got no internet

potent portal
fallow knot
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OOBE\BYPASSNRO

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This worked

potent portal
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OK good, that doesn't always work but the autounattend script does

tawny violet
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I wouldn't count on it working for long

cyan ravine
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Including but not limited to 3rd world countries especially

tawny violet
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Yeah but still, wouldn't count on it long-term

cyan ravine
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It simply can't happen

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They always need an offline method

tawny violet
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They might kill that command in particular and put something different in and say "It's there, people are just too dumb to know"

cyan ravine
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It'll get found still

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💀

plucky timber
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This is the part where I start ranting about Microsoft

dusky hearth
zenith cargo
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@potent portal

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bro I think I just killed my pc

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I have no power

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I was updating my drivers and my dog was under my desk. I was trying to scare him with noise spamming my keyboard on the left near windows key

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then boom

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shuts down

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power off

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can’t turn it on 💀

flint sapphire
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Did your dog accidentally flip the switch on your power cord or back of your psu? pepehmmm

dusky hearth
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Ong

potent portal
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Wire check time. Unplug everything except power, make sure the power switch is on for the power bar (if applicable) and the power supply

zenith cargo
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Bro I got scared

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It works now

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I unplugged and plugged it in

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phew

plucky timber
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Why would the keyboard scare your dog

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Wouldn't it be easier to just grab him

cyan ravine
plucky timber
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Most american keyboard

manic cloak
snow wasp
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My pc been acting weird ever since i got 5800x3d, new rams, new psu.
Once or twice a day my pc will show down, it shows down drastically with 10 seconds into complete freeze, nothing happens during that time, complete freeze including sounds from any sources. I then have to force shut down using the power button hold and then the windows will start normally again, but today for the first time i get this in the black screen (check pic). Please someone help. @mossy venture @cyan ravine

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I did fresh Windows 11 install after wiping c drive after putting these new components

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After that black screen the windows restarted automatically and now the windows is working but who knows when it will start freezing again 😔

mossy venture
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100% sounds like power issues

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The screen shot could be a few things

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Also what ram did you get?

cyan ravine
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I'd believe a secure boot or a ram speed issue

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FCLK

snow wasp
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Right now nothing coming up on the monitor, restarted pc few times with the power button.

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This time it froze when i launched patch of exile 2, instant freeze. And it mostly happens when I'm playing games, btw i didn't get this issue this often but started happening often in the last few days.

cyan ravine
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What ram is this

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I can't recall

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Wait this seems oddly familiar

snow wasp
cyan ravine
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I thought so

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And you haven't plugged any other kit in correct

snow wasp
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Btw I'm getting low % power deviant or something can't remember what it called on that hwinfo software

cyan ravine
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Not important

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You haven't plugged any other ram in yes

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Just those two sticks

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And only those two sticks

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Correct

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Your hesitation inspires confidence 😂

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I hope a picture is on the way lol

dusky hearth
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he died

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ram police kille

cyan ravine
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Rest in pieces

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Anyway

snow wasp
snow wasp
cyan ravine
potent portal
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If it's giving a missing BCD error then that install is probably toast.
That's also the reason why it's recommended to enable XMP after installing windows, because you have no way to test it before that point.

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You can rebuild the BCD ofc but you have to wonder what other damage has been done to the OS

languid nebula
mossy venture
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Do you alr own the psu?

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And ssd I'm assuming

languid nebula
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Yeah I own all of it, I know I need a new ssd as well

mossy venture
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Ahh

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Then I'd look for a 6700xt or 6750xt ideally, those were $300 for a long while but are now running out of stock

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7600 at $240-260 is solid, but id aim for something with 12gb vram

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If you're open to used, 6800 would be a great choice

languid nebula
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Thank you

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I’m able to use AMD gpu with an Intel chip?

potent portal
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Yes

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PCIe is universal

languid nebula
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sorry for all the questions but is there anything preventing me from getting a 3060 or an OC card? seems they are under 300 with even more memory

potent portal
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Nothing would be preventing you from doing that but they are significantly worse than the options presented

mossy venture
languid nebula
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i see okay

mossy venture
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7700xt is only $30 more for another 15% jump in performance, but then you're $60 over the initial budget, so yknow you do you

languid nebula
languid nimbus
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hmm

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how does b580 compare to 7700xt?

mossy venture
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Iirc it's like 25% slower?

languid nimbus
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aw darn

mossy venture
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Thats guess work mostly so don't quote me on that

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And im sure new drivers will improve perf like it did with the first intel arc series

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Wait

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Ig it depends on the game

potent portal
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They've already pushed a new driver that fixed 2 of the games reviewers had issues with

weary galleon
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From what I've seen, on average it's between a 6700 (non xt) and a 3060Ti

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Which would also equate to 7600xt-ish

potent portal
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Depends on the game but generally it falls between the 3060 and 3060 ti, occasionally beating the ti

weary galleon
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Tom's hardware seems to show it about equal to 7600xt

potent portal
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Tom's is somewhat problematic with their testing

weary galleon
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Oh

potent portal
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I think HUB has a more realistic chart this time around since they included a few of the new games that force RT on

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Which naturally does make the AMD cards look weaker, lots of fanboy complaints in the comments

snow wasp
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but this one issue i always see on HWiNFO is this, and this it the only one i always see red nothing else ever shows red at all.

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potent portal
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As Felix said, the deviation doesn't matter

snow wasp
potent portal
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Yeah that doesn't matter when it's idle

snow wasp
potent portal
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That stat matters so little I don't even monitor it

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It's only useful when you're pushing power during overclocking to monitor VRM efficiency

snow wasp
potent portal
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Yes

snow wasp
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Or it doesn't matter?

potent portal
muted light
snow wasp
snow wasp
kindred pawn
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My pc turns off after it uses a lot of cpu %, like in the 90s, is this normal or do I need a new cpu

mossy venture
kindred pawn
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or in task manager somewhere

potent portal
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Afterburner would work

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I recommend hwinfo64

kindred pawn
potent portal
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When the program opens, tick the "sensors only" box

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It's good to see what your specs are too though, might help narrow things down

kindred pawn
potent portal
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Hmm, is that all there is under that CPU category?

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You might not have chipset drivers installed

kindred pawn
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oh it was further down in the list lol

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my bad

potent portal
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Ah lol, the CPU (Tctl/Tdie) one is a good one to look at since it's usually one of the hottest sensors

kindred pawn
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lol

potent portal
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Oof, yeah you have a cooling issue

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Are you using a stock cooler?

kindred pawn
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wasn't stock

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i bought this 3 years ago tho

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so idk what it is

potent portal
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Yeah 103 is hot enough to trigger the safety shutoff so that'll be it for sure

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Hopefully you just need some new thermal paste, 3 years is well past the life of many pastes

kindred pawn
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i appreciate the help

potent portal
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No problem

odd venture
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update, everything came exactly as described, really couldn't be happier.

joke of tonight is i lost my computer case screws, thought they were missing from the box, was writing an email to the company, went to grab a picture of the accessories from the manual, remembered I had a bag of screws and left them on the table downstairs.

Found the screws
Lost the screw driver. pepe_clown

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im on a roll tonight

mossy venture
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And if its been 3 years, your thermalpaste 100% needs to be redone. If you don't have any id get mx4 or mx6 from arctic

kindred pawn
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albeit the components could've been better

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but i know nothing about pc maintenance

mossy venture
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Fair enough

burnt stratus
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guess i found a weekend project

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repasting the cpu

mossy venture
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I'd definitely repastr the cpu

burnt stratus
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its been about 2 years now

mossy venture
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Yeah you're due a repaste lol

burnt stratus
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honestly ive had 0 issues w/ cpu temps. i think my cpu is coved in paste

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but i will anyways

mossy venture
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Although as long as cpu temps are fine, does it really matter?

burnt stratus
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thats what im thinking

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all i have is a 2 year old thing of mx4 💀

mossy venture
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It's been something like a year for me

mossy venture
odd venture
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just going off my own experience, if it's been 3 years since; you changed paste, and your temps are mid-50s or less it's fine really

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anything above that and yeah you need to change the paste

mossy venture
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?

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Who's running games and heavy tasks under 60c

odd venture
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i'm referring to idle.

mossy venture
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Idle temps don't mean much

odd venture
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why not?

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i've seen idle temps be around 60 with old paste

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so a conclusion can be easily drawn from the idle temps.

mossy venture
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Cooling scales depending on the heat your cpu and gpu are putting out

burnt stratus
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that heavily depends on cpu

odd venture
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It does.

mossy venture
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You could idle at 60c, and run games at 75c

burnt stratus
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sorry my wifi is killing me

odd venture
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But if the temps are above 50 idle, the chance of it being high under load are pretty good

burnt stratus
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i sent that message 2 minutes ago

odd venture
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idle should be around 19c to 35c, just going by my own experience, not fact

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other's might have a different belief or opinion

mossy venture
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Older systems were a lot less efficient and less efficiently cooled

odd venture
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that's true

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also i think newer cpus would be more prone to throttle to protect their circuits no?

mossy venture
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Yeah

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Cough cough intel

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13th/14th gen voltage control cough cough

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My 13600k under a 280mm aio was boosting to 1.45v+ and 100c in any multi core benchmark

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All stock settings aside from xmp being enabled

odd venture
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I love air cooling.

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Just let me leave that here.

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Not that AIOs are an issue, I've just had terrible luck with them.

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I've had 2 pumps fail out of 2 AIOs I bought before going back to Air Cooling

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At least I don't have to worry about pump failure.

crimson zinc
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@mossy venture when you’re done with this conversation, do you mind making me a 7500f+32GB ram+fishtank case for $850?

manic cloak
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fishtank case is absurd

odd venture
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it's not.

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Fill it with mineral oil.

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It's grand.

crimson zinc
manic cloak
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fish powered pc when

odd venture
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god forbid you have to replace parts or perform maintenance

kindred pawn
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how bad is repasting

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is it hard

odd venture
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it's hard to not get paste on your hands yeah

dusky hearth
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what

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just dont touch the cpu?

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with your finger

mossy venture
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I've had good luck with this one so far

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But I almost never recommend them

mossy venture
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There is a free 1tb ssd with the 7600x on newegg rn

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It might be more worth it to bundle that with a mobo, or mobo and ram

burnt stratus
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U don’t need to be wrong and rude

kindred pawn
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i didn't mean to be rude

burnt stratus
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It’s fine

mossy venture
odd venture
dusky hearth
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i'm proud to say i've never gotten thermal paste on my

odd venture
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hands

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well good

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it's usually something you only do once

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after that you don't wanna waste the dish soap from not being careful enough

crimson zinc
potent portal
mossy venture
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Should work out abt the same price

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Maybe a 2% performance difference plus igpu

potent portal
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Margin of error effectively because the clock speeds are the same iirc

crimson zinc
mossy venture
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Same ssd

mossy venture
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I lied it's 300mhz

potent portal
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Oh right it's the same as the non x and we're talking about the x

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derp

mossy venture
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How dare you fal smh

potent portal
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Curse this human condition that causes me to be imperfect

mossy venture
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Become true techie- become ai

potent portal
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Nah I already had that arc

mossy venture
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Oh?

potent portal
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Had to turn myself off and on again a few times

mossy venture
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Ahh that's always the solution

dusky hearth
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currently turned on

rain carbon
potent portal
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That's what the battery backup is for

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I charge wirelessly on my chair

languid nimbus
cyan ravine
potent portal
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What you never tried it? It's the same way the birds charge on the power lines

dusky hearth
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I do the same thing by licking the wall outlets

cyan ravine
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TIL 343 recharges using quick charge 7™️

stiff beacon
potent portal
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lol totally not bots you guys

spare moon
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Hi, I recently finished building a pc using the lian li lancool 207 case and after turning it on I don’t see my pump turning on or any indicator that its on. Neither is my 7900 gre fans spinning and I receive no output. I am using the montech 360 mm aio if someone can please help. Much appreciated

plucky timber
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and elaborate on what you mean by "turning it on"

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did you press the power button and absolutely nothing happened?

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were there any signs of anything receiving power?

potent portal
kindred pawn
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How often should I re-apply thermal paste

plucky timber
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depends

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how long are you planning to use your pc?

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usually I upgrade my pc before I have to reapply thermal paste

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maybe every 3-5 years?

kindred pawn
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a very long time

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actually maybe till summer

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might just buy a new rig when summer comes

plucky timber
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summer?

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oh yeah that's in july

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it'll last longer than that

plucky timber
kindred pawn
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I'll be repasting tomorrow

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My cpu is overheating doing basic gaming

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Getting up to 112º

plucky timber
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3 years does sound about right tho

plucky timber
kindred pawn
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I made a huge mistake not getting the mesh one

plucky timber
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ah

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I think that's one of your issues

flint sapphire
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113c? Def reapply the cooler

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Might’ve just gotten loose

plucky timber
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yeah 113c sounds like something a lot worse than dry paste

flint sapphire
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I’ve had a few aircooler systems just instantly get better with some tightened screws

plucky timber
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something something coldplate shape

flint sapphire
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Just don’t over tighten kekw

plucky timber
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also if it's an am4 cpu

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I'd power it up and let the paste heat up

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then turn it off and remove the cooler

flint sapphire
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One more question, is it a aio?

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Like a thing with tubes and a rad

plucky timber
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could be a dead pump yeah

flint sapphire
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Had a couple dead pumps in the last year KEKDespair

plucky timber
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yikes

spare moon
spare moon
spare moon
plucky timber
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Please elaborate

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What were the signs?

ornate condor
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can I cool down 7900x with 240mm aio ?

silent olive
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Did my first build as a kid in 2012. Still have the same case + fans + psu + hdd (although I've added some SSDs over the years). Everything else I've upgraded once or twice over the years. I'm treating myself to a whole new build when I can get a 5090. Still debating on the CPU, but I'm thinking about waiting for the 9950 with 3d cache. Here's what I've got so far (black + rgb aesthetics): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hdgjZc

potent portal
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Good luck with that, you'll be competing with millions of people and bots to get one of the 5000 5090s they'll have nationwide at launch and the 9950X3D is probably going to be a similar story

mossy venture
kindred pawn
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update from yesterday, this is what it got to while loading up marvel rivals

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applied thermal paste and cleaned the cooling fan

plucky timber
kindred pawn
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because yesterday i had 112 degrees

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now it's 85

plucky timber
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hmm

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might be a cooler contact thing

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I'd run a proper stress test tho

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usually games don't push it to the max

dusky hearth
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63 is fine

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85 is also fine

kindred pawn
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so it's the heaviest load it should be while playing the game

plucky timber
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iirc ryzens like to idle high

potent portal
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85 is still much better than crashing

plucky timber
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85c is pretty low in terms of peak temps

potent portal
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And that was probably from the sudden load before the fan caught up anyway

kindred pawn
kindred pawn
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my brother said there was no airflow

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which made sense

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i couldn't see the other side

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until i air canned it

swift comet
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Question for the Builders: I'm planning to put together 2x NVMe Gen5 + 1x NVME Gen4 & RTX 5090 (Next Year) on Strix x870e gaming & Ryzen 7 9800X3D. Will I be able to run them all on Gen 5 and how can I tell if I'll have enough?

potent portal
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Unless you're editing 16k video there's no reason to use a gen 5 drive

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Gen 4 is plenty for 8k scrubbing

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Also there is not and never will be a 8900X3D

swift comet
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Sorry 9800X3D

potent portal
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Well between that and the 5090 you can expect that build to be done sometime near the end of next year

swift comet
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I managed to reserve the CPU now just praying for the GPU on release

potent portal
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Hopefully wherever you reserved it gets it sometime around the end of next month

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Because that's when the next restock is expected

swift comet
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I'm hoping this month, but yaaa.. lol

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Anyways. Will I have enough Gen5 lanes?

potent portal
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As for the 5090, you won't find that for less than $4k from a scalper any time in the next 6 months most likely

swift comet
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I'll sit and stare at my PC during CES day... lol

potent portal
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Unless you know a guy at microcenter that can tell you when you should wait in line overnight

swift comet
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Sadly no, but I'll still wait.. Should know right after CES.. Hopefully

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Anyhow.. How can I tell if I'll have enough Gen5 lanes to run all my Gen 5 hardware?

potent portal
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STRIX X870E-E right

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The first 3 M.2 slots support gen 5

swift comet
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I heard if all slots are filled up with Gen5 + GPU some lanes will downgrade to Gen 4

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Is that correct?

potent portal
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Sort of, what it does is limit the GPU slot to 5.0 x8

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But no GPU currently supports 5.0, and it's unclear if the 5090 will

swift comet
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I think it will be.

potent portal
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It's really expensive to implement and honestly pretty buggy so I'm not sure

swift comet
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Lots of posts saying it will and it makes sense

potent portal
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Well, running on the assumption that it does, 5.0 x8 should be plenty of bandwidth

swift comet
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Are PCIE lanes determined by just the Mobo or CPU as well?

potent portal
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Both

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An 8000 series CPU for example would cause M.2 slots 2 and 3 to be disabled entirely

swift comet
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So do I add both lanes to figure out my total lanes?

potent portal
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Yes but no

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The CPU and chipset have a set number of lanes that can be used, but whether they're actually used or not depends on the model of motherboard

swift comet
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How do you mean?

potent portal
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Let's say the CPU has 20 lanes available and the chipset has 40. But the motherboard only has one x16 slot for the GPU and 2 M.2 slots, so it would only be using 24 of those total 60 lanes

little osprey
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can someone help me find a laptop for my mom, im thinking of buying one for her since the she bought isnt going to last as long as she thought it would, its only got 4 gb of ram and 64gb of storage (she only has about 10gb free storage left) , I was looking to spending about $300. She is only goi ng to be using the laptop for her cricut and writing a book she says. I’d prefer to get one to have the option to add storage to it later on as well, and maybe have about 256-512gb storage and 8-16gb ram?

swift comet
potent portal
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There's 5x M.2 slots, and the first 3 are wired to the CPU, so it's asking for 28 lanes from the CPU, but that's shared with other things like the USB 4 controller so it has to reduce the lanes available to the GPU to stay under the 28 the CPU has

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The other 2x M.2 slots are wired to the chipset, which is a bit slower but has a lot more lanes available to it

swift comet
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OK so if I want to maximize my GPU lanes I can't use the 2 M.2 near it. I can only have 1 Gen5 M.2 and the rest Gen4. Is that correct?

potent portal
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If you needed all 16 lanes to the GPU then yes you could only occupy the first M.2 slot, leaving 2 and 3 open. You can still use 4 and 5.

swift comet
swift comet
little osprey
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closest best buy is an hour away

swift comet
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Ouch, sorry to hear that. I guess Google will be your next best solution.

little osprey
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well thats why im asking for help, it doesnt have to be for gaming

manic cloak
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sorry to refer you to there

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but it's kinda hard to find all of that without it being labeled as "used: good"

little osprey
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i live in small town and closest other town is about 20 minutes

plucky timber
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@little osprey I'm a bit late to the convo so here's some questions

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Budget?
what software does she use?
Does the laptop need to have a good battery life?

little osprey
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about $300 for budget, its gonna be for home and she uses windows

plucky timber
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ok that's simple

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I thought it'd be sub-100 judging by how the other guy responded

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I'd look for a laptop with an 8th gen i5

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those are usually the cheapest 4c/8t

little osprey
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shes not tech savvy, and i dont want her to have the same problem with a laptop i used to have when i had a laptop with only 64gb and ran out of storage lmao

plucky timber
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although $300 might be enough for a 10th-11th gen i5

plucky timber
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there's a lot of enterprise laptops being dumped onto the used market

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especially the 8th gen ones

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you can find ones with 256-500gb ssds for that budget easily

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I would debloat windows tho

little osprey
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yeah i just wanted something to last her a while and something that the storage could still be upgraded on in case i underestimated the things she would be downloading and saving

plucky timber
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hmm

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I'm assuming linux is not an option either

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I'd go for 10-11th gen then

little osprey
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ive only ever used windows, so if i went with a linux, i wouldnt really know what to do on it

plucky timber
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that's fair

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windows 11 is annoyingly bloated

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8th gen laptops are still...fine but they will start to chug pretty soon

little osprey
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yeah she got a 64 gb laptop and only has like 8-10 gb left and its brand new

plucky timber
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yeah that's the problem with windows

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lately they don't really care about making the os run smoothly

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they've just been pushing out feature updates

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so yeah I'd definitely recommend 10-11th gen i5s at least

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should fit within your budget

little osprey
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okay thank you, im gonna look around a bit and make a list you could possible take a look at?\

plucky timber
#

sure

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here's some keywords

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i5-1035G7
i5-1135G7
i5-10210u
i5-10310u

little osprey
#

okay ill try that

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how much ram would you recommend? she is only gonna do writing and designing things for her cricut that i know of so far

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would 8 be enough?

potent portal
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Should be for basic office work

plucky timber
#

should be enough yes

little osprey
#

okay thank you

plucky timber
#

I would heavily recommend debloating

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Windows eats up a lot of ram for some reason

potent portal
#

Especially with recall on the newer version 😭
Eating your disk space for no reason taking screenshots every few seconds

plucky timber
#

wh

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Why is that a feature

potent portal
#

Because the AI needs to see what you're doing at all times just in case you ask it "what was I doing 10 minutes ago"

plucky timber
#

that is literal spyware

potent portal
#

yep

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At least it's encrypted this time

plucky timber
#

Every day I step deeper into the linux rabbit hole

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Sigh

little osprey
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thats why i turn off advertising and ai stuff and the stuff it sends to help for troubleshooting

plucky timber
#

I use libreoffice and office web

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Just so I don't have to use windows

potent portal
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That's good and all but the apps still run and take resources even if they're neutered

plucky timber
#

It's actual torture for me to use windows

silent olive
silent olive
potent portal
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In that case either a stock bot or a trip to microcenter/best buy might be the easiest way, you just need to watch the rumors for when drops happen

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Personally I'm considering taking the trip to the new santa clara microcenter once they open for a GPU

manic cloak
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@little osprey

little osprey
#

yes?

manic cloak
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Do you live near a microcenter?

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I don't know if you do

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cause I was looking at microcenter for monitors and came across this

little osprey
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nah closest one is 3 hours i believe

manic cloak
#

oooh alrighr

potent portal
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Yeah that's about how far it'll be for me once that new location opens, for now it's about 12 hours to the closest one

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If you're determined the trip is doable

little osprey
#

yeah closest one to me is 3 and half hours from me lmao

manic cloak
#

Microcenter could honestly beat out newegg if they expanded their locations

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but then again

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microcenter probably has all of these good deals cause of backstock or something

potent portal
#

Nah part of the appeal is the in person stuff you can't do online

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Like actually decent troubleshooting and build services

manic cloak
potent portal
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That takes about $5 million per location total roughly

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And that's just accounting for the first year of the lease, not including expensive areas

manic cloak
#

If only elon musk could share some money

little osprey
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which they would easily make in the first month of opening them, if one opened near me and was about an hour away, id definitely make the trip, aint nothing new to me having to drive 20 min to an hour everyday

potent portal
#

I seriously doubt that, maybe 200k is reasonable per month for a new location

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They're operating at a loss for the first year by design, hiring extra employees and such

little osprey
#

maybe more close to 1 million, all the hype and attention it would bring would be insane. where i live, the closest best buy is an hour away, and then the next one i believe is literally an hour and a half

potent portal
#

Point being rapid expansion requires TONS of capital, which most businesses don't just have lying around

little osprey
#

and the hour away one is in a mall and its pretty small too

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theyd be doing fine by a couple years if they did do about 200k a month

potent portal
manic cloak
#

like you suddenly die, sure it goes to your kids, but it’s the continued cycle of what do you do with that much money

potent portal
#

At least elon tried something with his generational wealth from the emerald mines

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That something was buying twitter but hey, could be worse uses for that money

little osprey
#

https://www.microcenter.com/product/676305/acer-aspire-3-a315-24pt-r1l8-156-touchscreen-laptop-computer-steam-blue#tab-reviews-bm so @manic cloak @potent portal this is what you guys recommend? if so , im gonna go to tell my mom to sell that laptop on marketplace to help pay for this and ill pay the rest

Micro Center
Acer Aspire 3 A315-24PT-R1L8 15.6" Touchscreen Laptop Computer - St...

Get it now! Choose the ready-to-go Aspire 3 with the latest Ryzen 7000 Series Processors made for practical multitasking and productivity. With ease-of-use at its core, this family-friendly laptop is ready when you are. This Aspire 3 can tackle any job no matter how complex.

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Oh dang I seen I can’t ship it

manic cloak
#

Ya I was going to say you can't ship it, but i'd recommend it

little osprey
weary galleon
potent portal
#

A 1215U for $250 isn't bad at all

manic cloak
potent portal
#

2P4E I think it was, totally usable for daily

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Click the "save $80" hot deal thing

manic cloak
#

Ohhh

weary galleon
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I have one of those Inspirons, just with an amd 5825U

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build quality is alright, all plastic tho. Screen is 120hz which is odd but nice. No backlight on the keyboard

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Easy to open up the bottom for service. Ram slots, storage, battery all easily accessible

little osprey
#

I was gonna go with the i5 and 16gb of ram and 512gb so she doesn’t have to worry about storage or it slowing down on her if she is going to have multiple things going on in the background, but also I have a question @weary galleon when you say the build quality is already, do you mean it feels like it’s cheap or just stiff, also aren’t most laptops now mostly plastic?

potent portal
#

Higher end stuff has an aluminum chassis these days

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Plastic is just the cheap ones

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The really high end ones have magnesium alloy

weary galleon
#

Yeah it doesn't feel like it's gonna fall apart or anything but I'm a bit more careful with it than I would be something with an aluminum chassis

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And the keyboard (at least to me) feels ok, there isn't a ton of flex

little osprey
#

Do you think it would be able to take a small fall? I always like to prepare for accidents

manic cloak
#

Ehhh I wouldn't think so personally

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Not to have bias

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but i've seen my dad's fair share of dell office laptops go into pieces whether it was bumped or dropped

swift comet
manic cloak
#

but then again, what laptop doesn't shatter

weary galleon
manic cloak
little osprey
#

She’s not too tall but let’s say she dropped it while packing it, and dropped it from like a 3-4 foot drop

potent portal
swift comet
#

I was also considering Corsair Monitors but the G9 came with a free 990 Pro

weary galleon
potent portal
#

Samsung denies warranties for the shattered screens too

manic cloak
#

that can fit you guessed it, a 480mm radiator

swift comet
#

Nah I really love the Panel display on the Hyte

potent portal
#

Oh and that kryonaut extreme is intended for subzero overclocking, it's acually pretty bad above zero

swift comet
#

For the Monitor I've seen Heavy duty mounts to support it, so should be enough

swift comet
potent portal
#

It dries out really fast compared to something like MX-6 and performs worse at ambient temperatures

#

Arctic MX-6 is really the most I'd do

swift comet
#

Thank U for the notice. I'll definetly look into it

manic cloak
#

mainly cause it has sonic 😏

swift comet
#

@potent portal How about the Noctua NT-H2?

potent portal
#

That's a decent paste, I think it was 1 degree better than MX-6 iirc

manic cloak
#

I'd get the mx-6, I have it on my 13600k with a pa120 SE

swift comet
#

Ya I'll retun the Kryo

manic cloak
#

my CPU keeps pretty cooled

swift comet
#

I'll do some comparison of the 2

potent portal
manic cloak
potent portal
#

Yeah just needs a card

#

It already has the M.2 wifi slot

manic cloak
potent portal
#

M.2

manic cloak
potent portal
#

AX210, good chipset

#

You'd need to get antennas still

manic cloak
#

is there any difference?

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ya I just realized

swift comet
#

Looks like Artic MX6 Wins

image.png
potent portal
#

Difference between what? M.2 and PCIe wifi?

#

Practically speaking, no

swift comet
#

Thanks again @potent portal for pointing it out

manic cloak
#

also I have my attena from my z690, wouldn't I just need the connectors for this then?

potent portal
#

Oh, the Intel AX210 is one of the most compatible and stable chipsets compared to, well just about anything else

#

Ralink and AMD chipsets drop connections randomly

#

Atheros kinda works when it wants to

manic cloak
#

Alright

#

I just realized it's going to be like 170$ for this added

#

I might aswell find smth built in, or see if a PG lightning is in stock

potent portal
#

Unfortunately I think this is the only wifi LGA1700 board they carry https://www.microcenter.com/product/682097/asus-z790-prime-gaming-wifi7-intel-lga-1700-atx

Micro Center
ASUS Z790 Prime Gaming WIFI7 Intel LGA 1700 ATX - Micro Center

Get it now! ASUS motherboards are expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of 14th Gen Intel Core Processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Z790 GAMING WIFI7 provides users and PC DIY builders with a range of performance optimizations

manic cloak
#

prime we running from

potent portal
void wharf
#

Hey, so i just finished assembling my first pc and I tried to turn it on but only the display for the cpu cooler turned on. I was wondering if anyone knew a solution? My parts include:
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
SAMA SM360 Liquid CPU Cooler
Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
T-Force Delta DDR5 Memory
T-Force G50 1 TB SSD
ASRock AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT GPU
Thermaltake Smart BM3 850w Semi-Modular Power Supply
Thermaltake SWAFAN EX Cooling Fans
HYTE Y70 ATX Mid Tower Case

(Sry for the long list, just wanted to get everything)

manic cloak
manic cloak
#

usually by the ram, should be red, orange, green or white

void wharf
void wharf
manic cloak
void wharf
#

No

#

They don't even turn on the rgb 😭

#

Even though I know I plugged it into the right headers and heard them click in place

#

The only thing I can think of is either I plugged them into the wrong motherboard headers, or the power supply isn't working properly

plucky timber
#

it's always the headers

void wharf
#

Okje

#

Thats lowkey better than having to get a new power supply

plucky timber
#

golden rule

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first build never turns on the first time

#

it's tradition

potent portal
plucky timber
#

but yeah if it's not the headers

void wharf
potent portal
#

That's why you never close the case until you have a POST

void wharf
#

Well at least I'm following tradition 🥰

plucky timber
#

I would recommend posting a picture of everything's that plugged into the motherboard

void wharf
void wharf
plucky timber
#

it could be as easily as the reset header plugged into the power header

plucky timber
potent portal
#

It's not because the case is hard to open, it's because it's a jinx

manic cloak
void wharf
void wharf
plucky timber
#

they really should standardise the headers

manic cloak
#

just make everything usb

potent portal
#

They kinda did motherboard side but cases haven't caught up

manic cloak
#

who needs pin headers

#

we just need usbs

plucky timber
#

I mean we do need the power button

#

🤷‍♂️

manic cloak
#

we can make a usb port for that

void wharf
#

I'll probably have to remove the graphics card to actually be able to get to some of the headers

#

So I'll post a pic when I can

#

🥲

#

I'm literally so tired

plucky timber
#

yeah it's ok

potent portal
#

Luckily for you, you don't need a GPU in to get it to turn on since the CPU has one

void wharf
#

Been building this thing for like 3 days only for it not to work

plucky timber
#

yeah you don't need the gpu in tbh

#

you pretty much just want it to post before putting the gpu back in

void wharf
#

I've mostly just been taking my time and double checking stuff

#

Only for it to not work 🥰

void wharf
manic cloak
#

I'm just concerned it's either a dead motherboard, bad psu, or user error

plucky timber
#

it's always something trivial

manic cloak
#

Cause like out of everything that turns on

#

aio screen?

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but nothing else?

void wharf
#

Yeah idk

#

And it just says SAMA on it

manic cloak
#

Quick question

plucky timber
#

given that it's a first build

#

I'd take it one step at a time

manic cloak
#

Did you plug in the fan hub SATA to the motherboard?

#

whether it was sata or not

void wharf
#

No i didn't

plucky timber
#

is that possible?

void wharf
#

I didn't rly use the sata cords cuz I had an ssd that just goes into the M.2 slot

plucky timber
#

isn't it a sata power connector instead of a sata data connector?

manic cloak
#

It would make sense for the fans and nothing else working

void wharf
#

Unless I did something wrong 🫠

manic cloak
plucky timber
#

fan hubs that use sata usually use the sata power connector

#

which can only plug into the psu

#

it's possible he forgot to plug in something into the motherboard

#

like the cpu power connector

#

but one step at a time

manic cloak
#

^

#

check out your headers first

plucky timber
#

headers first

void wharf
#

Okie

#

It might be the power connector but I'll check

manic cloak
#

then check out your fan hub/any unplugged things

#

unplug is big no no

plucky timber
#

I highly doubt it's the fan hub

manic cloak
#

true but they installed fans

#

into a hyte

#

some wiring could of gotten mixed up or unplugged in the process

plucky timber
#

it should at least turn on

manic cloak
#

well it did

#

but it didn't

plucky timber
#

still i'd leave the fan hub for later

#

I'm suspecting the headers and then the cpu power connector

#

or...

#

actually you know what

#

the fan hub thing might be the right idea

#

but what if instead of the fan hub itself being the problem

#

what if the cpu cooler was plugged into the fan hub?

manic cloak
#

probably

plucky timber
#

some motherboards won't turn on without cpu cooler header being occupied

manic cloak
#

but that count to the fact the fans and rgb aren't working

plucky timber
#

if the fan hub's connected to sata

manic cloak
#

there would be rgb atleast

#

I think

plucky timber
#

the aio would receive power

#

it just wouldn't post because the motherboard refuses

#

actually yeah you were probably onto the problem

#

took me a while to connect the dots

#

if it is the dots...

manic cloak
#

Well it wouldn't be the motherboard

#

unless part of the motherboard is dead

#

but that's so unlikely

plucky timber
#

well no

#

if the cpu fan header is unoccupied the motherboard might just not post at all

manic cloak
#

they likely plugged in the AIO screen power right, cause the AIO Screen turned on

plucky timber
#

well no

manic cloak
#

but otherwise the pump is still in question

plucky timber
#

it could've been plugged into the fan hub

#

and if that was powered by sata it'd turn on regardless

#

because the sata's connected through the psu and not the motherboard

manic cloak
#

it is a semi smart psu

#

so possibly the sata cable could be dead

#

on the smart psu

plucky timber
#

I wouldn't go with dead anything yet

#

too early to tell

manic cloak
#

Ya

#

plus that smart bm3 is a C tier likely

#

it's a newer model of the bm2

plucky timber
#

wait

#

smart

#

as in thermaltake smart?

manic cloak
#

yes

#

but not as in thermaltake smart no modular 80+

plucky timber
#

eh they're all crap

#

so that's a check for "possible death by detonation"

potent portal
#

$100 for a probably C tier unit is way too much though

plucky timber
#

^

#

you can get a RMx

#

or that superflower unit that's been cheap

#

or the enermax

manic cloak
#

just in general a fully modular psu

#

more cables, less of a bomb

#

https://www.ebay.com/itm/404981677710? https://www.ebay.com/itm/404534218555?

eBay
(Factory Refurbished) MSI Z790 GAMING PRO WIFI LGA 1700 DDR5 ATX Mo...

CPU Socket Type LGA 1700. ModelZ790 GAMING PRO WIFI. Part NumberZ790 GAMING PRO WIFI. Form FactorATX. Physical Spec. 1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type C ports. 4x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type A ports. 4x USB 2.0 ports.

eBay
(Factory Refurbished) GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX DDR5 Intel ATX M...

ModelZ790 AORUS ELITE AX. - WIFI a, b, g, n, ac, ax, supporting 2.4/5/6 GHz carrier frequency bands. Power Pin1 x 24-pin ATX main power connector. 2 x 8-pin ATX 12V power connectors. Available applications in GCC may vary by motherboard model.

potent portal
#

I don't mind semi-modular personally, since you're going to need the 24 pin and EPS cables no matter what

plucky timber
#

Gigabyte can go up to DDR4-7600 instead of the 7200 of the msi

#

gigabyte also has more sata ports

#

Gigabyte wins

manic cloak
#

and has like 3 extra usb ports too

plucky timber
#

they're fine for lower budget pcs for

#

for 6750XT and above I'd go with something better

#

(and certainly not thermaltake)

#

unless the specific model is listed as an A tier

#

which...

#

that's also very confusing to figure out

#

good thermaltake psus are a hassle to find

manic cloak
#

plus he's rocking a7900xt

plucky timber
#

did discord update the ui again

manic cloak
#

not power hungry but, expensive mistake

plucky timber
#

stopppppp

#

I hate this app so much

manic cloak
plucky timber
#

I've been pressing reply instead of edit for the whole day now

#

or forward

manic cloak
#

no it's been like that

plucky timber
#

they've added another stupid ui update

manic cloak
#

it's happened to me

void wharf
plucky timber
#

I would definitely

manic cloak
#

oh

#

wait

#

ya do that

#

I misread

void wharf
#

Like, 2 days ago

plucky timber
#

you can get a better psu for the same price

void wharf
#

I think that's the one i got on amazon but like it has been delayed like 3/4 times

manic cloak
void wharf
#

Not sure how to plug in the F_Panel connector correctly 🥲

manic cloak
#

what's that?

void wharf
#

I tried to figure it out but I'm not very technically savy

#

It's the front panel header i think it's called

plucky timber
#

do you have the motherboard manual?

#

there's usually a page for it

manic cloak
void wharf
#

Yes

manic cloak
#

Ya those usually go with your cases connectors

#

@void wharf simply find the case connector that has like "LED" or "Switch" on it and count pins

#

gigabyte made it kinda easy compared to my asus so count left to right

void wharf
#

So the female connector has 9 pin slots

#

But there's like a bunch in the actual header

manic cloak
#

can you send an image?

void wharf
#

So maybe I plugged it in wrong 🫠

#

Yeah

#

I don't think I can send pics in this channel

manic cloak
plucky timber
#

no

#

he's not a green name yet

#

just has to chat some more

manic cloak
#

oh

#

just create links of the image through some website if you'd like

#

or even then you can just DM to me and I could reupload here ig

#

i'm bored enough to stay active in this chat

void wharf
potent portal
void wharf
potent portal
#

Right so it's one of those combo plugs

plucky timber
#

that looks like an audio header

#

oh

manic cloak
#

well

#

I think that goes somewhere else ngl

void wharf
#

It says f-panel tho

manic cloak
#

oh

void wharf
#

Unless I'm dumb

plucky timber
#

the plug

void wharf
#

🥰

manic cloak
#

the 20 and 19

#

cause if you look in the bottom right of the connector

#

it's a solid piece, no hole

void wharf
#

I tried that first but it didn't work

#

I can try again tho

manic cloak
#

actually

#

wait

#

this vexes me

void wharf
#

Sry im just losing my mind

manic cloak
#

does your hyte 70 have a manual

void wharf
#

Yes it does

manic cloak
#

and is there any other f panel cable?

#

or is that it

void wharf
#

I think that's it

#

It came in the hyte 70

manic cloak
#

any other smaller ones?

plucky timber
manic cloak
#

usually they're like 2 pins wide

plucky timber
#

pretty sure it's the usb header

void wharf
#

I don't think

plucky timber
#

not the fp header

#

is it labelled usb on the side?

#

wait these things exist

iu.png
#

ughhh

#

plug it on the left

potent portal
#

It should go all the way on the left of that front panel header ya

plucky timber
#

if it doesn't work rotate it

manic cloak
#

this was from a reddit post of the same case

#

or well, the hyte y70 touch

#

it looks like there's 2

plucky timber
#

hyte is like the new nzxt

void wharf
plucky timber
#

yeah basically

#

plug it on the left

#

try the power button

void wharf
potent portal
#

Notch goes up relative to the board

plucky timber
#

no no no

#

you're doing fine

#

header goes on the left

void wharf
#

Ok I'll try that 🥲

manic cloak
#

I just realized that gigabyte's front panel switches are flipped compared to asus's

#

why can't they just make it universally easy

plucky timber
#

did you post the asus image

manic cloak
#

no

#

that's their manual

#

pg 26

void wharf
#

Ive been reading that but I still don't fully understand it

#

Still like this 😭

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_10bbc062-d0fa-4003-995f-db4bcb539e0e.jpg
manic cloak
#

err...

#

quick question

void wharf
#

I don't have the touch screen just the normal

plucky timber
#

thank god

manic cloak
#

oh

void wharf
#

Lol

plucky timber
#

no NZXT gimmick

manic cloak
#

your name is green!

void wharf
#

Lmaooo

#

YIPPPPEEE

manic cloak
#

okay but real quick question

#

that 9 pin connector

#

is it connected with the case originally or did you plug it in

void wharf
#

Is came with the case

#

It*

plucky timber
#

it is the front panel connector

manic cloak
#

^

#

cause what I see in the video

plucky timber
#

it is 100% the front panel connector

manic cloak
#

and from other images

#

the F panel connector has rainbow cables

#

not all black

#

angle could of been bad for the image

#

but I wanna make sure

plucky timber
#

the connector should say f_panel

void wharf
#

They have all black

plucky timber
#

it says f_panel on the cable yes?

void wharf
plucky timber
#

try to turn it on

void wharf
plucky timber
#

flip the connector

potent portal
#

Try the reset button instead of power

void wharf
#

It has 9 pins slots so I don't think flipping will work

plucky timber
#

wait a second...

void wharf
#

At least at the far left

plucky timber
#

do you have the fan hub plugged into cpu_fan1?

void wharf
#

Hmmmm

plucky timber
#

ok

#

fan hub goes into sys_fan1

void wharf
plucky timber
#

radiator fans go into cpu_fan1

void wharf
potent portal
#

We could try bypassing the button altogether and jump the pins

plucky timber
void wharf
#

The fan hub?

plucky timber
#

do you have a fan hub?

void wharf
#

Like a controller for the fans rgb?

plucky timber
#

no that's the rgb controller

manic cloak
#

on the back of your case likely

#

there's a little spot that all your fans plug into

potent portal
#

@void wharf Try touching your screwdriver to these 2 pins

image.png
manic cloak
#

is there anything from that little spot plugged into the motherboard?

plucky timber
#

I do wonder

#

where is the pump plugged into?

void wharf
plucky timber
#

on the back?

void wharf
#

No the pump is on the front too

plucky timber
#

where?

void wharf
#

Hard to read but is says Sys Fan Pump

plucky timber
#

right

#

right

void wharf
potent portal
#

Yes take the plug off the header and touch both pins with the screwdriver

void wharf
#

Ok

void wharf
plucky timber
#

one of them

#

yes

#

there's 2 pump headers for some reason

void wharf
#

Isn't the other one a USB3.2

plucky timber
#

???

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no the other one is cpu_opt

void wharf
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Ohhhhh

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Yeah, should I change where they're plugged in?

plucky timber
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that shouldn't be the issue

manic cloak
manic cloak
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cause 64gb of ram is very tempting

potent portal
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64GB is also much more difficult to run, which means it won't run as fast

manic cloak
potent portal
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Unless you have a real need for that much memory I'd avoid it personally

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Intel benefits more from speed than it does from capacity

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AMD it would matter less because you aren't going to run it above 6000 probably anyway

manic cloak
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so the deal is somewhat a bust mainly cause I have intel

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dang

potent portal
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Oh and if you did try using 4 sticks it's quite possible you couldn't even run 6000

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One more thing to point out, it's not bogo memory, it's a free flash drive with memory, so either it was misinterpreted or they fixed it

cursive wharf
tepid meteor
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guys

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can anyone recommend this ram?

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one guy said they run abit hot so all i want to know if this could work with 4 sticks or if anyone has experience with them. Thanks!

cyan ravine
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Don't run 4 sticks

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Like unless you want pure pain don't do 4 of any kind on ddr5

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Also those are expensive af, silicon power make much better quality kits that look like that and perform the same for less