building-and-recc-chat

[proper night]

Cool. Generous pea size. Got it.

And I guess with the non-conductive stuff a little over spill isn't as much of a concern as before.

[dusky hearth]

or you can do the x with dots on the inside of the empty areas of the x, though that is not really required since it's still not a very large ihs

yeah you can empty the whole tube and not worry about anything but a mess

[proper night]

This MX-6 stuff works better than Silver 5 too?

Superior thermal performance?

[dusky hearth]

yeah

[proper night]

Thank you. You've been most helpful.

[dusky hearth]

mx6 is good enough for both cpu and gpu if you wanted to repaste the gpu

and nowadays our reccomendation for repasting gpus is to get thermal putty rather than pads so that you dont have to get multiple pad thicknesses and also figure out what those needed thicknesses are

[proper night]

Is putty different from paste?

[dusky hearth]

Yes, more viscous

Kinda like playdough vs toothpaste

Maybe not quite to the point of play dough

[little osprey]

Hey, I'm thinking of switching to AM5. I want some options and opinions on what specs I should get. My current thought is:

R7 7800x3d
T-Force Delta RGB (2x16) RAM

and I'm not quite sure on what B650 motherboard I should get

[potent portal]

My recommendation https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xr8Dxg
You can get a cheaper board if you don't need wifi, like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs

[little osprey]

I need WiFi

[potent portal]

First link then

I try to recommend boards with at least 3 M.2 slots and good VRMs

[little osprey]

Will that CPU Cooler fit in a Hyte Y60?

[potent portal]

Yep no problem there

[little osprey]

my Thermalright AssassinX120 R SE is razor sharp close to touching the glass

[potent portal]

Maximum height for the cooler by the case spec is 160mm

[little osprey]

mkay

trust

[potent portal]

I'm going by the Hyte website so if there's an issue take it up with them

[little osprey]

I'll get someone else to confirm as well....give their opinions too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xr8Dxg

Anyone else?

Hold up

I just realized

so

I kinda want RGB on the CPU Cooler

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h7Z9TW/vetroo-u6-pro-582-cfm-cpu-cooler-vt-cpu-u6pro-bk

Seems like a lot of the thermalright stuff is sold out, which is what I'd normally default to

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kY6NnQ/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-argb-58-cfm-cpu-cooler-frozn-a620-pro-se-argb

[little osprey]

bet

[crimson zinc]

Custom lighting

You’ll have to learn how to do it through your RGB software

I suggest openrgb

[weary galleon]

Openrgb should be able to control everything I believe

[rain carbon]

i got fustrated and gave up on openrgb since i didnt even know where to start

so i just use the good ol resource hog signalrgb

god i wanna get off it but idk why openrgb doesnt detect my fans or even if its supposed to without external hardware

i hate rgb

[tawny violet]

OpenRGB is so incredibly unintuitive IMO

It's almost criminally difficult for me to use

I bet it's great if you complete a PhD course on it tho

[rain carbon]

i wish i could use it

apparently markiplier syndrome is a blocked word on this server lmao

but i dont have the free time of a linux user

[tawny violet]

Aura might be dogwater but at least it is INTUITIVE dogwater

[rain carbon]

is aura a resource hog?

i just want my 2 gigs of ram back LMAO

[tawny violet]

Oh you bet your butt

[rain carbon]

signal rgb uses TWO gigs passive

[tawny violet]

It's also awful with stability and having no ability to treat specific headers different

[rain carbon]

thats lovely

[tawny violet]

Not THAT bad tbf

It's like

400 megs for me tops

But that's when experimenting with effects

Normally less

[rain carbon]

signalrgb takes 2 gigs for blank colour

no swooshing waves

[tawny violet]

Oof

[rain carbon]

with the effects it goes up to 3-4

because of course it does

id just use my motherboard but by god asrock rgb software is GARBAGE

i have reversed colours (i think it was red and green) so i had to change the slider to look like puke to be purple

i swear rgb is the least intuitive thing about pcs

probably because its technically free since rgb stuff doesnt want to take accountability for software and rgb software doesnt want to take accountability for software so they all suck

[mystic dune]

@short yoke can i use your build for a video i am making?

[tawny violet]

Windows is trying to fix that

[rain carbon]

Trying

Wheres doing

🥹

[tawny violet]

Ask Felix

@cyan ravine how is Windows RGB control coming along?

[dusky hearth]

situation: there are 15 competing standards

15?! ridiculous! we need to develop one universal standard that covers everyone's use cases.
yeah!

[soon:] situation: there are 16 competing standards

[rain carbon]

(situation becomes outdated) wow we have a new standard, wish there was a way to do this with this standard tho, guess we gotta improve this standard a bit!
Situation: there are 2 competing standards

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LtT6RV

thoughts on this build

[mossy venture]

Id suggest this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rvJ6RV

Cheaper monitor option
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

[dusky hearth]

no rgb

[weary galleon]

True

Less time getting RGB to work, less budget spent on rgb

More time playing videogames and more budget spent on performance

[glossy siren]

is there a such a thing as a AMD5 mother board WITH OUT any type of on-board video???

[mossy venture]

Cpus have integrated graphics

Any mobo should have at least one display output

That changed a good while back

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dq4Zxr/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax

[glossy siren]

can not have on-board video and have a video card in at the same time and expect it to work!!! it has not worked that way for the last 30yrs.
why does people keep buy this garbage i have no idea. the number of gaming machines i get not working right cause of this. two video cards can NOT use the same resources.

[mossy venture]

Are you ai

[glossy siren]

i have been working with computer for over 35yrs

[mossy venture]

And yes you can lmao

[glossy siren]

and it has never worked

[mossy venture]

I actively have a 13600k with an igpu and a 3060 ti

The igpu drives my second monitor

[glossy siren]

and yet i get clients all the time with video crashes with game cause of the dual video

then you are a lucky one

this is why the industry is going down hill morons buying garbage cause of the price instead of buy quality stuff that actually works.

[plucky timber]

what is the context here?

igpus and dgpus shouldn't conflict

[mossy venture]

Either AI or someone rage baiting

[plucky timber]

probably rage bait

ai doesn't edit messages

[mossy venture]

The wording is what gets me

[plucky timber]

maybe english is their second language?

punctuation is too informal to be AI

what confuses me is

why would someone ragebait in a tech server of all places

[mossy venture]

Someone who's been working with computers for 35 years, id hope they know igpus and dgpus don't cause issues w eachother

Its common

[weary galleon]

That's not ai

[plucky timber]

It's extremely unlikely for that to happen

even if you have a driver nightmare

they still wouldn't mess with each other

[mossy venture]

I mean it isn't impossible, but its not a common thing

[plucky timber]

the game or whatever application usually just pickes one gpu and runs with it

[mossy venture]

Nothing that warrants a rant like that lol

[plucky timber]

It's such a technically improbable thing

the odds of that happening are so low

and he made it sound like a very common occurance

which is very suspicious

[shut rampart]

my friend bought ram for his MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard and its giving boot leg ram he said

[mossy venture]

What ram and cpu does he have, and what slots are the ram in

[potent portal]

I am typing this message on my secondary monitor, which is attached to my iGPU, while I play a game on my primary monitor attached to my dGPU.

If anything this setup works better than a single GPU

[dusky hearth]

i use a laptop with an igpu and dgpu and that also works perfectly fine as well

[shut rampart]

slot 2

and 4

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32gb-2x16gb-ddr4-3200mhz-c16-udimm-desktop-memory-black/6448611.p?skuId=6448611

[mossy venture]

its always the vengeance

[shut rampart]

also will 70% isopropyl Alcohol work for cleaning thermal paste

with a micro filber towel

[mossy venture]

it's recommended to use 90% plus

[shut rampart]

thats what I have for now

[mossy venture]

ive used 70% personally but that isn't a recommendation

[shut rampart]

well my family work in a nail shop soo 70% is what due

anyways yeah for my friend ram yeah he wanted to upgrade right now so thats why he bought it

but his pc not turning on

[mossy venture]

vengeance is infamous for having issues

what cpu does he have

he might need a bios update

[shut rampart]

I will have to go and ask and he takes long to reply

but I told him to re put in his old stick

and that worked so im guessing he does need to bios

[potent portal]

Don't drip it on anything, use it sparingly, dry it off when you're done, and give it time to air dry. If you do that then it's fine to use.

[shut rampart]

I just put alcohol on the microfiber and make sure it didn't drip and then put it on the cpu

while the cpu was on the mobo

and wipe it off now I need to find like a case to hold the cpu

and not bend any pins

but I think I threw all of my cpu plasic case away 😦

[cyan ravine]

Hahahahaha

[cyan ravine]

I'm with bacca on this one. Well spotted from him

Good chance his ram is just cooked

Vengeance always has problems

DDR4 3200 bins are infamously bad quality

[cyan ravine]

90+ otherwise you may need to stop and wait a day or two

The higher the % the better it all evaporates

[shut rampart]

naw I already used it

lol

its ok I can let it air cool

[cyan ravine]

And the better it evaporates the less likely you'll have water residue in the pc

Ya do that

Put a fan on it for maybe 4 hours

[shut rampart]

I made sure I didn't touch any mobo parts tho

and then wipe it down with a clean microfiber

[cyan ravine]

Hmm

Just in case

Let it air dry

[shut rampart]

the mobo and cpu?

[cyan ravine]

Ye since we're here

I would encourage getting a 90% bottle at some point lol

Or just more paper towels tbh

I often don't use IPA unless it's really on there

The paste

[shut rampart]

well thats what I had

other then water...........

but thats not a choice

[cyan ravine]

You can clean things with water honestly

[shut rampart]

o

[cyan ravine]

I just wouldn't put a PSU or anything with a battery in water (mobo battery)

Leave it air dry long enough it's clean again

Usually a few days

[shut rampart]

thing is I dont think I have the plasic case that amd gives you for cpu

soo idk where to hold it

[cyan ravine]

Lay it on some paper towels

Lol

[shut rampart]

yeah but I was going to sell it

[cyan ravine]

Oh

You can buy the trays

They're like $3

Lol

You sell it as a tray cpu used

Send it via mail in a bubble wrap bag

Wrap in fragile tape

[shut rampart]

I dont deal with shipping

I just do local

[cyan ravine]

You could tho if you have a tray

If it wasn't a PGA one you could send them just wrapped in a little bubble wrap and tissue paper if we wanted to really MacGyver it

LGA ones are pretty safe overall it's just the PGA ones that kinda need a clamshell for transport

[shut rampart]

well I got an upgrade from the ram

he said that 2&4 slot doesn't work

but the other works

[potent portal]

Are they counting starting from the CPU side

[shut rampart]

yeah

well he said that that combo doesn't work aka slot 2 and 4

but 1 and 4 works etc he also said he put it on 3 4

[potent portal]

Ok so maybe slot 2 is just bad

1 and 4 should be fine technically as long as it's stable

[shut rampart]

can you xmp on 1 and 4

[potent portal]

If it's stable

Depends on too many factors to say without trying it

[snow wasp]

is this okey for fan and led expansion? https://link.gy/cd068

[potent portal]

Fan yes, but there's no RGB there

[snow wasp]

oh ok, anyway do each fan takes 12v that comes from the sata?

[potent portal]

Yes, and any fan you plug in will run at full speed without being able to control the speed

[snow wasp]

also what about this one for led https://link.gy/120bd

[potent portal]

That'll work in most cases

[snow wasp]

most cases?

if i connect it from the motherboard?

[potent portal]

Sometimes you can overload the header on the motherboard if there's a lot of LEDs on it, but that's uncommon if it's only fans

[snow wasp]

yeah only fans, no extra led strips

[shut rampart]

hello, my friend who was having issue also wants a pc upgrade, I tried to get more info of his part and this is what he has ofc he has an liquid cooler for his cpu and im thinking he also have a hdd not a m.2

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PPLhgn

budget 2k, for mostly streaming, he also wants to switch to team amd for cpu

[weary galleon]

For that budget he could basically do a new build. Could keep PSU and case if they're decent

[shut rampart]

I dont know whats his psu

and his case is also an idk so I guess new build

[cyan ravine]

Need to know cos he might have something so good it's worth keeping and selling his old with something more appropriate

Could save him potentially hundreds knowing what he has

If not thousands for trivial solutions

[shut rampart]

naw just build him a new pc

only thing missing is psu and case

[potent portal]

9800X3D is better if you can find one near msrp, otherwise https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ctFcqH

[sour sage]

my windows unactivated by itself????

[potent portal]

Run the activation troubleshooter

It'll recheck the key against your MS account

[sour sage]

it didn't work , and the key came with the laptop

it was pre-activated

i didn't chaneg any hardware

[potent portal]

How old is the laptop

You might also try the license transfer function from within the troubleshooter

You can try this command from an admin command prompt as well:
slmgr.vbs /dlv

[sour sage]

1 or 2 month

if nothing works out , the store i got it from is walking distance away , i could go ask them

[cyan ravine]

I would yeah

They'll reactivate it with their OEM licenses

Should cost them nothing, especially since it'll be under warranty

[little osprey]

I need some help. I need to upgrade from a 1080p Monitor to a 1440p, however, I've really wanted an OLED monitor, but they cost me my family jewels. Should I wait for OLED prices to go down? How soon will that be? Or should I go ahead and get the best non-oled 1440p Monitor now?

[dusky hearth]

A few years probably

[little osprey]

you're kidding

[dusky hearth]

I don't really see OLED prices dropping significantly in the next 2-3 years at least
The prices have been getting lower but fairly slowly

But honestly speaking, a $500 OLED monitor is going to probably be better than a $500 LCD monitor

[sullen spoke]

Monitors over the years have steadily dropped as they always do. About 2 years ago or so oleds finally hit the desktop market with prices in the 1k range, now you can get the same for 400-500

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

Mini LED, a step below OLED

[wide sparrow]

Not true. it was 999 now it's around 600-700

[mossy venture]

Third of the price

[dusky hearth]

I meant dropping to "cheap" prices like 200-300 for a good OLED

Though idk if it even is possible with inflation and such

[wide sparrow]

Oh.. never happening

[dusky hearth]

Idk, it may be possible, as long as they can mass produce decent panels well enough

And with good enough yields

Especially if there more competitors

[cyan ravine]

Happened

Cooler master did it once this year

[dusky hearth]

Oh

Was it good

[cyan ravine]

$300 1440p 240hz oled

[cyan ravine]

You tell me they're all LG panels

Oh actually, not anymore

They have Samsung QD-OLED ones now

Same result

[dusky hearth]

Damn

I though we were still in like the $500 mark for something decent

[cyan ravine]

We are

Just Cooler Master went postal for a day

[dusky hearth]

Cooler Master isn't someone I'd expect to have a cheap OLED monitor

Like

I would have expected nearly any other company to do this

[cyan ravine]

Oh it's been like 500+ since

But for one day we had it good

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

I wonder if it was a pricing error

[cyan ravine]

It may have been

It was amazing though

[mossy venture]

The cooler master oled has issues

I forget exactly what they were but it and the innocn one are the worst

[cyan ravine]

Both are good by OLED standards though

I've looked into that

Just not as good as the others

[mossy venture]

I could've sworn the CM had physical issues, like build quality wise

[cyan ravine]

It'd have to be really game breaking

As long as it has the panel that we all know and love it's easy to look past most of it

[mossy venture]

Oh for $300 for sure

Just worth being aware of

Do you know anything about the koorui gn10? Mini led 240hz

It looks really good but I can't find any good reviews

All i can find is on reddit

[vapid jolt]

Whats the best 750$ or cheaper build

[dusky hearth]

depends on what you're using it for

[cyan ravine]

I don't but koorui have a decent history to date so worth finding out

[coral wave]

I apologize, I'm new here and am not sure where to post this. I just built my first PC, all new components, and I am having some trouble. I am to the point where I can turn on the computer but it won't show anything on my display, and I get a yellow DRAM EZ Debug light. I have the MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk max wifi, 64GB (2 x 32GB) g.skill Trident Z5 neo series DDR5 6000, and Intel i9 14900k 14th gen 24 core (8p + 16e). All wires are firmly secured; sometimes, on startup, the CPU EZ Debug light will blink about once every 7 seconds in combination with a constant Yellow DRAM light, however, the CPU light stops after 4 or 5 blinks. Other times, it's just the DRAM. I have pressed them into place as hard as I can without breaking anything in the appropriate A2 B2 slots, I have tried using just 1 in A2 and then swapping them to see if that changed anything. I'm not sure what's left to try, aside from assuming that either my new components may be toast out of the box or I am inept at this.

[potent portal]

What processor

[coral wave]

I'll add it to my original post as well. It's the Intel i9 14900k 14th gen 24 core (8p + 16e)

[potent portal]

Your BIOS needs to be updated then

Flashback https://youtu.be/sKMub20CUNI

https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7E25vA8.zip

It can take a few tries and it's a little picky about the USB drive you use sometimes

[coral wave]

I received a flash drive with my components. I assume this is what I need to update. Maybe I am not using post correctly. I get nothing on my display on startup. Will following this video circumvent that?

[potent portal]

You do not need a running PC to flash the BIOS using this method

[stoic island]

btw this is the video with flashback
https://youtu.be/iTkXunUAriE

the other video is the normal bios flashing way

[coral wave]

Okay, so I went through the whole process, starting with the PC off; the BIOS light is no longer flashing, but it turned on my PC and left it running? The DRAM light is still on but I assume it needs an actual restart to know for sure.

Am I good to power it down manually? Or should something have appeared on my monitor when it turned the PC on?

[potent portal]

If the light on the button stopped flashing then you can try switching off and on at the power supply

[coral wave]

So don't hold the power button and instead flick the power supply I/0?

[potent portal]

Correct

[potent portal]

Oops my bad, that's what I get for trusting a link in the MSI website to be what it said it was

[coral wave]

How long should I wait to turn back on?

[potent portal]

A few seconds should do

[coral wave]

DRAM light is still on, still no display either...

[potent portal]

It can take up to 10 minutes to train the memory

Usually less than 5 but worst case 10

[coral wave]

From the BIOS update?

[potent portal]

From this being the first boot, from the perspective of the BIOS

[coral wave]

Okay! I'll report back then

[coral wave]

No change

[cursive wharf]

@mossy venture Most monitor quality control issues I see tend to be from poor heat management or firmware (funni bugs), which isnt really tied to panel. Former point being most concerning, cuz the worst of it is cracking screens or front/back plates splitting iirc (either some Samsung of LG display I think?). Latter point means meh HDR (think back to AW3423DF release, HDR kinda sucked. Made the very expensive display kinda pointless IMO [until fixed] cuz it didnt really look much better than cheap OLED), meh VRR, etc.

TLDR: Prolly look into it cuz good panel wont mean issues will be minor.

[mossy venture]

Thats a good point, you mentioned firmware and iirc that's one of the issues the cooler master oled had

[potent portal]

It can take a few tries, and some boards want you to turn them on before you press the flash button.
Make sure you're copying the right file out of the BIOS update I linked too.

[cyan ravine]

You know I wasn't thinking about it at the time, you're right about the cracking problems. Hell, I've brought them up myself

It's a fair point, it should be thoroughly vetted

[shut rampart]

should I update my drivers? if I do fortnite says its not recommanded

[potent portal]

There should be a fairly recent version that doesn't get you the warning

[shut rampart]

what verison is that

[cerulean plume]

can anyone help me decide between two pcs

[dusky hearth]

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[cerulean plume]

White asrock b550m motherboard

Ryzen 7 3700x

Amd 6600 white 8 gb gpu

Sabrebt rocket 1 tb 4.0 m.2 nmve

32 gb white ram

White cpu cooler

650 msi psu

Montech case with hinged side panel

is this good for $620?

[dusky hearth]

this is one pc

what is the other option

also for 620... it's not horrible but probably could be better?

especially the gpu

[cerulean plume]

Case: Asus Prime AP201 ( New)
Motherboard: B760M-HDV/M.2 D4 (New)
CPU: Intel i5 12400 (New)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Spectrum V3 (with black Thermalright fan) (New)
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) 3200Mhz DDR4 Kit - Gray (New)
GPU: PowerColor Fighter RX 6600XT (Used)
Storage: 1TB Teamgroup MP44 Gen 4 M.2 SSD (New) PSU: Thermaltake Smart 500W (New)

this is the other option for 625

[mossy venture]

Id suggest this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3D7Dxg

[dusky hearth]

yeah neither are great, between those 2, i would go for the 12400 one, but bacca's list is better for the price anyways

[cerulean plume]

never built a pc before so im a little hesitant

[mossy venture]

It's fairly easy, id just follow a video tutorial in YouTube

[dusky hearth]

it's easy
i dont like the msi mech cooler though having used it before (it is a bit loud) but the prebuilts you listed had a cooler design that wouldnt be much quieter

[mossy venture]

The thermaltake smart is also a major issue

Known for killing pcs

[cerulean plume]

oh which pc was it in?

[dusky hearth]

oh i didnt see that since there wasnt a new line for that

yeah i wouldnt buy that prebuilt because of that

[dusky hearth]

intel one

[cerulean plume]

oh yea I see it now

[dusky hearth]

but yeah, building is easy, and if you ever need help, you can always come back here

[mossy venture]

Issue with the other one is the 3700x is fairly old and close to becoming incapable of running new games at 1080p60fps

[cerulean plume]

this is my first pc and its really just to last me untill the 50 series come out then ill go all out

[mossy venture]

Then I'd suggest an am5 igpu build that you can upgrade when new gpus come out

[cerulean plume]

oh okay ill look into it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMX9GJ

The iGpu is slightly worse than a 1650

And cpu is slightly worse than a 12400, but this means you can drop a far better cpu in there down the line with a gpu, and you have a whole new pc

That mobo either used to hold or still holds the world record oc with a 7950x, so don't worry about whether or not it can keep up with a cpu upgrade

And that psu could handle any 40 series gpu

Plenty of gpu clearance in the case, solid airflow, can add a second nvme down the line for more storage

[dusky hearth]

wait, what's your budget including the planned gpu you're getting when the 50 series comes out?

[plucky timber]

they're that good now?

[mossy venture]

Yeah rdna2 igpus are no joke

[potent portal]

The 8700G is able to play FPS games at 1080p with FSR balanced

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal what about the 8500g?

[plucky timber]

1650 gddr5 or gddr6

[crimson zinc]

https://youtu.be/cnxlwBeJtUs?feature=shared

8500g is the worst of the bunch by a bit
But actually better than I originally thought

[weary galleon]

Yeah 8500g gpu is cut down a lot

[languid nimbus]

Rip

[south cliff]

Hello people been a while

What would be a good pc for around 700-800 dollars used for some gaming,editing photos,and some normal use?

[plucky timber]

damn

techies asleep

I'll hit you up

[copper fossil]

Looking for some opinions here. We tested computer parts on the box and got a post on my friends 9800x3d/ gigabyte aorus elite x870. Now after getting everything instead I get a vga light. Tried a few different known working gpus as well. Kinda at a loss. Reset cmos. Reseated ram and cooler. Tried with one stick and still getting the vga light and sometimes code 05 on the debug led.

[plucky timber]

where did all the peerless assassins go on pcpp

wtf

[dusky hearth]

05 isnt an error, it's a normal status unless it hangs there

is the system POSTing anymore? or just the vga light being on?

maybe try seeing if you can get to bios by plugging into the mobo's display out rather than the gpu (maybe take that out as well)

actually

how long are you waiting between the boots? ddr5 may take a while for ram training (though i dont think it would be on the vga light) so give it like 10 minutes to make sure it isnt just doing some ram training

also are you getting any other codes on the 7 segment display

[copper fossil]

It could just be us not being patient. Not used to am5 yet.

I will hook it all back up and let it do its thing for a while

[dusky hearth]

yeah try giving it 10 minutes, if it doesnt work by then, somebody may be here to help

it's getting a bit late for me so i'll be heading off

[copper fossil]

Yeah I’m
Off to bed too haha

[mossy venture]

Microcenter access?

[plucky timber]

damn

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2y2QqH

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JYCp8Q

[plucky timber]

did pc prices go up or something

[mossy venture]

In some aspects

[plucky timber]

this was my sad attempt

[mossy venture]

We made the same list lol

[plucky timber]

did I upload your list

clipboard moment

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFnmgn

[mossy venture]

Oh lmao

Tbf not a bad list

[plucky timber]

6750XT is $300 so

that seems to be the cheapest

but still $100 overbudget

[mossy venture]

They mentioned used so I figured they could grab a used gpu

[plucky timber]

yeah it's getting to the point where a used 1080ti might be the best option here

wait

I have an idea

I'm gonna mix parts in fromy our list

[mossy venture]

With an $800 budget, could fit a 2080/s/ti, 6700xt/6750xt, 3060 ti, 3070, 6800 or similar with one of these lists

Especially if they went for a used cpu too

[plucky timber]

tada

ddr5 too

[mossy venture]

Yeah thatd be ideal for upgradability

[plucky timber]

wait

I pasted the wrong list again

ahhh

[mossy venture]

lol

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9qMf9C

tada

[mossy venture]

I didn't even notice ngl

[plucky timber]

wait your ram has lower latency

[mossy venture]

The only thing abt the ram is 6000c30 is hynix while cl36 id samsung

[plucky timber]

I'm gonna swap that around

[mossy venture]

And cooler is fine but the 7600 stock cooler is what I'd stick with, at least for now to spend more on the gpu

[plucky timber]

yeah tbh with the dual towers not available atm for some reason

might be a good idea to just save the money for now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w7bskf

this is not too bad tbh

slightly overbudget but really upgradable

all you need to go X3D is a cooler

[mossy venture]

Could do a 7600 or used gpu for cheaper

[plucky timber]

wait did I paste the wrong list again

[plucky timber]

maybe a used 2080s?

oh you had the thing above

yeah a used gpu would probably put it neatly in the middle of the $700-800 range

[broken parrot]

Greetings.

I’m wondering if this laptop worth it for academic use only: Dell latitude 7200
Cpu: 15 8eme
Ram: 8gb
Discdur: 256gb(ssd)
Ecran: 12.5p(tactile)

[brittle tinsel]

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-VERTOTM-Graphics-DisplayPort/dp/B0CS6YS9S7?th=1

Friend is looking at a gpu, will this fit in a Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer Edition?
Google says the case supports GPU length up to 420mm but the website says anything over 250 will need a vertical mount bracket. I dont know how accurate their site would be since I didnt see anything newer than a 1080 on their list of supported GPU dimensions.

[broken parrot]

For the CPU it is i5 8..(no details I thought it is kinda scam), I believe the storage is way low, no?

[broken lake]

what would be a logical upgrade from a 12600k right now with all the issues on newer intel chips?

I have realized I am being completely bottlenecked by it when I am playing games

[plucky timber]

what games do you play?

If a 12600k is a "complete" bottleneck it's pretty unlikely an upgrade would improve gaming performance

also what are your specs?

[broken lake]

cod

4080 super, 12600k, 64gb ram

[plucky timber]

ah

activision

[broken lake]

ye

[plucky timber]

it's pretty likely that the game is just that badly optimised

I'd try competitve settings

[broken lake]

I mean, an upgrade wouldn't hurt though?

[plucky timber]

you also won't gain much

for the amount of money you're going to spend on an upgrade

[broken lake]

I see

[plucky timber]

I'd say try lowering your settings

activision doesn't like optimisng their games

[cyan ravine]

Yes if your board supports it

Need to know the exact board first tho

I would encourage a 13/4600K/F

Personally

[broken lake]

Gigabyte Z690I A ultra lite D4

[cyan ravine]

Yeah go stick one of these in it

Make sure the bios is up to date

[broken lake]

are the issues with the newer ones fixed?

[cyan ravine]

Check and record any bios settings

[cyan ravine]

The wave of problems stopped after microcode 0.12B

I use intel systems myself

I'd be telling you not to upgrade if it wasn't fixed

Lol

[broken lake]

just making sure lol

[cyan ravine]

All good

But you should be able to just drop one of those in there

Cheapest is best

They're all basically the same thing

[broken lake]

cool

my cpu is my oldest part in my pc so this should future proof it

[cyan ravine]

@broken lake just double checking make sure to do this and also record your bios settings with a phone camera

Bios settings don't survive updates

Even when they do they can often be unable to be read properly

So I advise against relying on "Exporting"

[broken lake]

ok, I don't think I changed anything but I will do

[cyan ravine]

Fans and xmp will change that much I'm fairly sure

Fan settings often can survive a bios update tho but need reloading

[broken lake]

I haven't touched fan settings

[cyan ravine]

If you use an aio then it mightn't be running full performance then

[broken lake]

I do have an aio

[cyan ravine]

Then the pump may not be configured properly

You want the pump as high as possible without being audible

So usually 100% but some are strong enough to be as good at 60%+

Just flat speed

No curve

[broken lake]

I'll look into that next time I restart my pc

[flint sapphire]

Your profile pic and this sentence confused me enough to read “microwave” instead of “wave” and “microcode”

[plucky timber]

Felix the intel microcode update

[little osprey]

Can an RTX 4070 Support a 1440p 240+hz monitor?

[fossil cedar]

depends on what game and the settings of that game and the cpu youre pairing it with

[analog hearth]

@minor garnet yo is that seat from a Golf?

sick setup. I've had my setup for years and I have yet to get it that advanced. I've only recently upgraded to T-LCM pedals

[jagged ember]

I'm still on my controller lol

But that is a sick setup

[little osprey]

I wanna say the most demanding game I have, but rarely ever play is either cyberpunk or Flight Simulator 2020

but I am rocking a 5800x3d

[cyan ravine]

Prolly 4070 Super in that case if RT means the world to you

Since basically every other 40 series card is horrendous value compared to it tbh

I would grab a 7900XT while you still can for their reasonable price personally, that's about as far as a 5800X3D can go in a reasonable expectation

[vale epoch]

I recommend the 7900xt too the rt performance on the 4070 super might be better than most cards on the market but its pretty rare to get playable frames with rt in 1440p without dlss and i’ve used dlss and in rt scenarios absolutely horrid artifacting at times

Not a good experience imo

[manic cloak]

Uh oh.

Okay so my current issue is:

Solid white light/VGA with no boot or anything to pop up on screen, monitor isn’t being turned on. I keep pressing the power button ON the monitor and the orange light won’t turn off.

My sapphire pulse has like a red LED flashing at the base of the Pcie, I can’t tell what code it is because it’s flashing twice then flashes randomly.

https://streamable.com/yj03ni

[visual tundra]

hello how can i fix this driver error otipcibus64.sys can anyone help me with this please

[finite drum]

I got a b650m pro rs wifi motherboard, and there is no beep to indicate it is posting. Does this have to do with the motherboard, I am not sure if it has an onboard speaker, is there something else it is supposed to do?

Please help

[potent portal]

Most modern motherboards don't beep

You can add a speaker if you like, the header is by the front panel header

[finite drum]

How do I read the red lights? The CPU and DRAM lights are on, although we unplugged the ram

Does that mean those are working or not working?

Because the RAM sticks are out

[stoic island]

The debug LEDs tell you what's wrong

It lights up if there's no ram or there's something wrong with it

[finite drum]

The CPU light is on, and the RAM light was on before and after I took out the RAM

[stoic island]

They generally will light up in order during startup, you will want to worry about whatever is staying lit at the end

[finite drum]

They just started lighting up and were being steady, there were no changes despite waiting several minutes

[stoic island]

If it's steady then it's an indicator that something is wrong with it and holding it back from booting

If CPU light is still on, check power cables and reseat the CPU

If ram light is still on, reseat the ram

You will still need some ram plugged in to boot, if you have none plugged in right now

[finite drum]

I put the RAM bakc in, and the RAM sticks are lighting up, how long should I wait for a change

They are physically lighting up and the light corresponding to them are

[stoic island]

I'd reseat them, and use 1 stick at a time to test

[finite drum]

I took them in and out, which reseated them

[stoic island]

Memory training can take up to around 3 minutes for first boot, but generally less, anything taking longer than that is an issue

Use a single stick in slot 2 if you have multiple sticks, leave the rest out

[finite drum]

Doing one at a time, what would I look for?

Why slot 2 specifically?

[stoic island]

Just try to boot with the single stick, give it around 3 minutes

[finite drum]

Does that matter?

[stoic island]

Generally recommended, and taking note of which slot you're using can matter if it's something to do with one of the CPUs memory channels

[finite drum]

Ok, thank you

We tried booting with no sticks, and it didn't give different results

[stoic island]

It won't boot with no sticks

[finite drum]

So just try and boot it twice, one with each stick? And what am I looking for when I boot it with one stick?

[stoic island]

Assuming you have everything plugged in, including GPU and monitor, you're looking for bios setup to show up on the monitor

The idea right now is to get it to boot somehow then narrow down the issue

[finite drum]

Yeah, will the lights change once it boots?

[stoic island]

The debug LEDs? It'll cycle through them and turn off if it does fully boot

[finite drum]

The thing that I don't get is why the sticks are lighting up

[stoic island]

The RGB on the sticks only need power to do anything, the sticks themselves can be defective and still light up, or have bad contact with the mobo slot for the pins that matter for data and not power, or there can be something wrong with that memory channel on the cpu

[finite drum]

Ok, so RAM could still be the problem

[stoic island]

Or maybe in very very unlikely edge cases, the 5v rail of the PSU is providing the correct voltage for 5v argb, but the 12v rail isn't functioning correctly for everything else. Point is, RGB on the ram lighting up doesn't mean the ram is working.

[finite drum]

If both the RAM and CPU lights on the motherboard are on, does that mean that they are both a problem?

[stoic island]

Usually just one lights up at a time, dunno anything that does multiple at the same time

If it doesn't boot with either stick, I'd reseat the CPU and check the pins on the motherboard and make sure nothing is bent or preventing you from getting good contact

Also, what exactly are you using? What are the rest of the parts?

[finite drum]

This tutorial was on a QR code in the manual, but I don't understand what it means. It shows the lights on, so does that mean that they are supposed to be on?
https://youtu.be/T5PTjo8avZM?si=71PN1HdcRQ4LQ_JU

[finite drum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LLpgt3

[stoic island]

What PSU and GPU?

[stoic island]

They tell you which part of booting it's in, if it gets stuck somewhere, you know that points towards the problem

Dunno why ASRock would make it so dram and CPU would light up at the same time though

[finite drum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JQvnLc

I am pretty sure about the PSU, it might be a slightly different model

[stoic island]

Pretty old model but should still work, although it's more likely to be TX-M if you bought it within the last 5 years

[finite drum]

I might not have, it was part of my old computer, although it worked fine for that

[stoic island]

TX is like a 10 year old model, wear and tear can take its toll but it's not a bad model in general

[finite drum]

The rgb stick and the cpu fan turn on, so the power works

[stoic island]

Should be a good time to take out the CPU, check the pins and contact, before remounting the CPU

[dusky hearth]

(Technically that only shows that the 12v rail is working and says nothing about 5v and 3v)

[stoic island]

(also technically just shows that something close to 12v is being supplied by the 12v rail, it could be 10v or 14v and fans can work and not much else, but I'd check other stuff before PSU first)

[finite drum]

It is one of the only parts that isn't new, it was powering my computer earlier today. It is most likely not the problem

I have to go, thanks for the help

[manic cloak]

Reseated my gpu, resetted CMOs, unplugged my power supply cables n etc and changed them, air dusted the crap out of it, any extra suggestions?

[stoic island]

Good luck

[cerulean plume]

anyone know any budget headsets?

[dusky hearth]

Depends on the budget

[stoic island]

I'd try switching PSU cables if you can and checking if any debris may be in the pcie slot

[shut rampart]

should I buy a cpu holder from thermalaright for my 9800x3d

[manic cloak]

I had a loose display port connection on the monitor was all

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[potent portal]

Nah AM5 doesn't need a contact frame, unless you're using liquid metal and get the one that stops it from leaking

[analog hearth]

@cyan ravine remember how we were clowning my gf's setup? I’m surprised her 12100F and RX 5700 are able to keep up with COD 💀

(This is after user-side optimizations)

1080p btw

Game still looks great

Still haven't played a match though lol. I just got home

[weary galleon]

That BO6? I get like 110-120 fps at 1440p with my 3060Ti

Mostly low settings and quality dlss

Maybe cod liking AMD cards still exists

[potent portal]

Yes that's definitely still a thing

[little osprey]

How can I find me a 7600x3d nowadays?

[dusky hearth]

store

[covert vapor]

Go to a Microcenter that has them in stock

That is the only way you'll get one that isn't second hand or on the secondhand market

[little osprey]

There is none near me 😭

Closest is 5 hours away

[covert vapor]

Welp, you'll have to either hope someone has one second hand and is selling or try and go for one of the other X3D chips

The 600X3D chips are Microcenter in-store exclusives after all

[cerulean plume]

whats the best budget headset I could get?

[snow wasp]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Razer-Kraken-USB-ultra-lightweight-HyperClear-Black/dp/B0BP2CN1HZ/ref=sr_1_20?crid=3GCHX9PVS09SG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tVU0b9fRO5ra3e2-cCDb8v-oU_lc9sn0WLSlHm3dNmZ0GliW8QboPmnIc-O4jmM2yLqjI3u2gq_BL8bmkyJI8uF0CQ6-QIJDX4qE05rqAE_HqsmLF1BBiDOP5e1NNlkrcGX5emGzlsvxkRJAE2qPvj20ewicZZ9YDfqTtZ-kxtDDHb-mrclYHHKLqmmb5_T1u9a4P0i7ot_Crbdogjxloz5BUCQHa8p5D_RiGfJxao8.GVLsCItIasGjAV3kHabLSvONxVKiz_rub8v28UBCz4E&dib_tag=se&keywords=headset&qid=1733713310&sprefix=headset%2Caps%2C659&sr=8-20

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Cloud-III-Ultra-Clear-USB/dp/B0C3BV19Q3/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3GCHX9PVS09SG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tVU0b9fRO5ra3e2-cCDb8v-oU_lc9sn0WLSlHm3dNmZ0GliW8QboPmnIc-O4jmM2yLqjI3u2gq_BL8bmkyJI8uF0CQ6-QIJDX4qE05rqAE_HqsmLF1BBiDOP5e1NNlkrcGX5emGzlsvxkRJAE2qPvj20ewicZZ9YDfqTtZ-kxtDDHb-mrclYHHKLqmmb5_T1u9a4P0i7ot_Crbdogjxloz5BUCQHa8p5D_RiGfJxao8.GVLsCItIasGjAV3kHabLSvONxVKiz_rub8v28UBCz4E&dib_tag=se&keywords=headset&qid=1733713310&sprefix=headset%2Caps%2C659&sr=8-11

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Wired-Gaming-Headset-Microphone-Black/dp/B0CYJF4KG7/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3GCHX9PVS09SG&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tVU0b9fRO5ra3e2-cCDb8v-oU_lc9sn0WLSlHm3dNmZ0GliW8QboPmnIc-O4jmM2yLqjI3u2gq_BL8bmkyJI8uF0CQ6-QIJDX4qE05rqAE_HqsmLF1BBiDOP5e1NNlkrcGX5emGzlsvxkRJAE2qPvj20ewicZZ9YDfqTtZ-kxtDDHb-mrclYHHKLqmmb5_T1u9a4P0i7ot_Crbdogjxloz5BUCQHa8p5D_RiGfJxao8.GVLsCItIasGjAV3kHabLSvONxVKiz_rub8v28UBCz4E&dib_tag=se&keywords=headset&qid=1733713310&sprefix=headset%2Caps%2C659&sr=8-4

[cerulean plume]

thanks

[cerulean plume]

I'm stuck between the first two, which would you prefer?

[snow wasp]

I would go for razer, i won all 3 in pro models and so far i find Razer the most comfiest. Almost all headset will hurt my hear but Razor don't.

[cerulean plume]

ohh thanks, and is the microphone quality good aswell?

[snow wasp]

You're welcome 🙂 I haven't tested the mics properly because I use a studio quality mic, but with my past experience I know that Razor got pretty decent mic.

This Razer is more lightweight than the other and the ear cushion is soft and comfy, also it got 52k rating, higher than the other.

[cerulean plume]

👍

[analog hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ4x3Mjnr74&t

Actually surprising how much performance you gain. Plus the game looks better imo

[analog hearth]

Bro shorten the links next time

I mean bruh

[plucky timber]

not even #building-and-recc-chat is safe from motor's wrath

[dusky hearth]

those are indeed excessively long links

[analog hearth]

There are THREE of them and bro didn’t even want to send them in different messages

No bother to close the embeds

[dusky hearth]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BP2CN1HZ

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C3BV19Q3

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CYJF4KG7

could have been this short

[analog hearth]

Not even a "wow those are big links"

[plucky timber]

do we wanna pick apart the headsets

[rain carbon]

is black ops 6 even worth getting

[dusky hearth]

i'm too lazy to

[plucky timber]

gentlemen are the headsets even that good apart from the cloud iii

[dusky hearth]

they didnt even specifiy a budget

[analog hearth]

Get it when it has a phat discount

[plucky timber]

feels like the cloud iii is the only good one for audio quality

the rest are overpriced

[rain carbon]

that sounds like a not worth money to me

[analog hearth]

Bruh I can't stand headsets

[plucky timber]

activision?

discount?

never

[dusky hearth]

yeah i probably would have just gotten the cloud 3, but i have no idea what their budget is and if it was higher than this they could have gotten something better perhaps

[plucky timber]

razer is notoriously mid

for how much you're paying

[analog hearth]

Sending the longest links directly from Amazon and they're all three big name brand headsets. I just know what kind of person you are

[weary galleon]

if you are a cod fan, yes absolutely. If not, it's nothing revolutionary

[plucky timber]

I wouldn't buy razer anything

maybe a mouse at most

[weary galleon]

razer makes some good stuff

also some not so good stuff

[dusky hearth]

they're kinda useful in some use cases
mainly like aviation or construction comms lmao

[plucky timber]

some of them are good

[rain carbon]

the only headset i think are worth getting is the pc38x

[analog hearth]

Razer mice are actually good. Everything else is whatever. There's your answer

[dusky hearth]

gaming you're at a desk and a boom arm with a mic would work equally as well

[plucky timber]

razer mice are fine

keyboards?

let's not even get into keyboards

[dusky hearth]

well, unless you're playing on console then i guess

[analog hearth]

Yeah but this is a tech/gaming server

[plucky timber]

with how many good mechs there are on the market

that's cheapaer and way better

[rain carbon]

honestly ironically most people recommend non "gaming" hardware for gaming

[plucky timber]

if anyone asks for a razer keyboard I'd just link this https://keychron.com.au/

[analog hearth]

I will slander you and your Razer, Corsair, or Logitech keyboard

[dusky hearth]

i would say razer keyboards are on the "ok" range of quality, but for the price it's not worth it

[rain carbon]

logitech boards are CHEEKS

[dusky hearth]

especially since you have to deal with synapse to use its features properly

[plucky timber]

you can literally build a keyboard for cheaper

that has better quality

the keyboard market has gotten to that point

[rain carbon]

theres some cheap prebuilts you can grab and mod up a bit too

redragon i think is a good easy mod brand

[plucky timber]

you can also get a ultra lowbudget

and get a cheap board and then good switches

[rain carbon]

ultra lowbudget hot swappable

[plucky timber]

yeah

[analog hearth]

https://rkgamingstore.com/products/r65-wired-gaming-mechanical-keyboard
my brother recently got this and I was surprised he even picked it. Solid keyboard

[plucky timber]

you can get them for like a hundred if you want

[rain carbon]

or do what i do and lean into felix convincing you to buy the bridge75 for 110

[plucky timber]

is that hot swappable?

[rain carbon]

oh way more than hotswappable

[analog hearth]

Yes

[rain carbon]

2.4hz adaptor, aRGB, doubleshot caps, lots of foam, choice of hall effect or princess ultra switches

[plucky timber]

ahhh

I want a new keeb now

my keeb's not even bad

[analog hearth]

Comes with factory thocc. Lowkey want one but I have a big keeb problem

[plucky timber]

I don't need a new keeb I don't need a new keeb

[analog hearth]

What is it?

[plucky timber]

keychron k6

[analog hearth]

Thank god

[plucky timber]

I don't buy gaming plastic junk

[analog hearth]

Thought you were about to say Logitech or something

[plucky timber]

they cost more and they're trash

[analog hearth]

I was about to go about as insane as Felix when I asked if I can cool a 13700K with an old Hyper 212 Evo

[plucky timber]

logitech is good for mice

that's it

everything else is mid

[analog hearth]

I got a G502 X sort of recently. I switched back to my Razer Basilisk

Couldn't stand G Hub

[plucky timber]

at least you can use G hub

[analog hearth]

Also, onboard profiles don't act as "onboard" as you'd think

[plucky timber]

proprietary crap doesn't work on linux

[dusky hearth]

ghub broke for me

*kinda

[analog hearth]

Bruh like just let me control the mouse through VIA or something ffs

[dusky hearth]

the app doesnt launch for me anymore after an update

but my settings still are working

[analog hearth]

I’m tired of all these goofy name brand mice and their garbage driver that’s as bad as Armoury Crate

[plucky timber]

I uninstalled that crap right away

[dusky hearth]

so i havent bothered to reinstall it, but i cant load ghub anymore

[plucky timber]

ghelper is way better

ghelper does everything I need with armoury crate

and doesn't eat up my resources

[dusky hearth]

well, it's not that the window doesnt open anymore, but it opens and loads forever

so yeah ghub is kinda broken for me

[plucky timber]

I touched G hub like

when I got my mouse

haven't used it since

I'm on linux so I literally can't use it

[dusky hearth]

unfortunately it's only for laptops and handhelds, but i only have an asus laptop and i dont think i'll ever buy an asus product again lmao
not that the laptop was bad but it's just kinda not worth it between asus pricing and their default software being so trash

[cyan ravine]

Today I learned the Razer core X is literally an sff box turned egpu and I wanna convert one back

[tawny violet]

I mean it exists...

[cyan ravine]

Not that

[tawny violet]

same tooling methinks

[cyan ravine]

The predecessor

No

The tomahawk itx sucks

The core X has actual ventilation

@tawny violet they aren't even remotely similar lol

[tawny violet]

huh

I thought they reused the tooling with a different outside

[cyan ravine]

Nah

Tomahawk is standard layout

With a rubbish thermal profile

The core X is a double sided ventilating sandwich (almost) config

More akin to that of an old NR200

Core X is made for egpu anyway, it has no mount for a motherboard

But I've never considered the design as closely before, the modularity still exists

The PSU is a repurposed unit, the thunderbolt PCB has two slots as well (you can increase the egpu perf by removing the USB nic)

The gpu mount is standard

A few handy tricks I think I can turn that into an itx case

The space is there to fit everything

If I'm right about this I could potentially solve a several hundred dollar hole in my old OC fun days and also get Reddit karma cos that's apparently worth farming

It really looks like it'd fit though

[little osprey]

What's a better Linux OS? Fedora or Ubuntu?

[rain carbon]

Based on name alone there's one I'm too terrified to look at

I don't wanna come off as a tips hat "m'lady"

[analog hearth]

What are you doing with Linux?

[little osprey]

gaming

[analog hearth]

Use Bazzite OS. It's basically a fork of Steam OS and it's made specifically for gaming (based on Fedora). You can configure it to function either like a console (so, the Steam OS interface) or just as a normal desktop

I’m trying to build another computer rn just to run it. I’ve ran it before but I’m looking to upgrade the computer I used to run it on lol

[dusky hearth]

Or you can wait for SteamOS 3 to fully release for other systems asides from the steam deck, which may be soon

[dusky hearth]

Which it technically already works but you use the steam deck image

[potent portal]

Pop!OS is good for gaming too. It does most of the setup for you, and can pre-install Nvidia/AMD packages. The Pop Shop (app store basically) makes installing packages easy too, including Steam.

Oh and it's based on Ubuntu so I guess to answer the initial question Ubuntu would be easier to work with

[analog hearth]

^^ I agree with this if you're using an Nvidia GPU. Nvidia support is spotting on Bazzite OS

[potent portal]

Especially since that fixes an annoying Nvidia bug where you don't get any display on startup

That was the only distro that would work with my 2070 out of the box. Other ones needed grub flags.

It's not a bug that affects every Nvidia GPU too, it seems to vary by model, vendor, even luck.

[analog hearth]

I can't remember. Was it Nvidia that dropped Linux support? It feels like Nvidia GPUs were dropped from MacOS and Linux distros all at the same time

So I guess generally Nvidia that dropped all Unix support?

idk it was weird

[potent portal]

No what happened was Nvidia open sourced their Linux driver (but took out all the important bits and stuck them into parts that are still closed source)

[analog hearth]

that's wack

I mean yeah make it open source but why otherwise delete all of the important stuff?

AMD GPUs work fine out of the box

[potent portal]

The AMD driver is, was, and almost always has been open source on Linux too

Which is why AMD is generally accepted as being the better choice for Linux

[analog hearth]

True. And it's pretty much already included in most distros (I think?)

I mean at least I've fully used my 6800 XT on Bazzite on a fresh install lolll

[potent portal]

There's a basic driver in the kernel, you only need the full package if you do more than run youtube

There's a basic Nvidia driver too, nouveau, but it's not great

[analog hearth]

oh I see lmao. So I should've done that as the first thing after installing Bazzite OS? 💀

idk though. They seem to heavily support AMD GPUs like they're their savior

They almost act like everything will work out of the box (which seemed to be the case for me)

After trying this distro, I think I can trust this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bazzite/comments/1ffpc55/rog_ally_bazzite_how_to_update_amd_drivers/

[potent portal]

A well designed Linux distro can be very "it just works" while also leaving customization open enough to break it

[cerulean plume]

can somenoe help me figure out if I have a ethernet port

[plucky timber]

look on the back of your pc

do you have one of these on the back of your pc?

if you're a desktop you should have one

my dms are not open

[dusky hearth]

You 99% do

[plucky timber]

yeah unless it's a ultra thin laptop

it is extremely likely that you have an ethernet port

[cerulean plume]

What's first to upgrade
Ryzen 7 3700x
Amd 6600 white 8 gb gpu
32 gb white ram
Sabrebt rocket 1 tb 4.0 m.2 nmve
650 msi psu

[cyan ravine]

We need better specifics

What model of ram, PSU, case, motherboard, cooler

[cerulean plume]

How do i send a pic?

[analog hearth]

You gotta be joking

[cerulean plume]

nah man but i figured it out

[cyan ravine]

Need to keep talking to send pics

Everything is labeled in the PC tho

[cerulean plume]

the ram is 2 sticks called pinnacle

motherboard is

White asrock b550m motherboard

[cyan ravine]

Timetec pinnacle

[cerulean plume]

case is Montech case with hinged side panel

[cyan ravine]

B550m pro4

Montech...probably x3

Is my guess

The PSU and cooler, need to know those

[cerulean plume]

dont really know those but its a 650 msi psu and idk the cooler unfortunately

[cyan ravine]

I must have more details for both

Or rather, we do

A 650 watt means only the capacity

Doesn't say how safe it is, what's compatible

They have a label and a complete name

Example

MSI A650GL

A650GF

650BN

A650G

[cerulean plume]

oh ill go look

[cyan ravine]

The cooler I can't work with either without at least a basic description

[cerulean plume]

Psu is msi mag 650 cpu cooler is custom amd

[cyan ravine]

I appreciate you trying man but I need the numbers or letters next to the 650

Mag 650 narrows it down to maybe 5

💀

It could be mag abn which basically takes not much more than what you got

[cerulean plume]

ah dam

[cyan ravine]

Or it could be mag agl which would do up to a 4070Ti

Like not knowing is a huge range of possibilities

It should be on the psu stickers anyway

I'll check back later gotta go ✌️

[frigid jackal]

Can anyone help me figure out if the z790-c is compatible with intel 665p 1.0tb?

[analog hearth]

it is compatible

"yes but I need" yeah it's compatible

"but" YES

[frigid jackal]

if it's used am I able to access all of the stuff I had on ther ebefore?

if I have a new ssd

[analog hearth]

yes

[frigid jackal]

there's no issues having like windows 10 on the old one and window 11 on the new one?

[analog hearth]

nah

[cyan ravine]

@frigid jackal Think of it like a usb stick

[analog hearth]

I personally would install Windows on the new drive first. Then after installing Windows, make sure that you have the correct drive selected in the BIOS

[cyan ravine]

If it can read the stick, all your dreams come true

Not wealth, not that one

But (almost) all your dreams and possibilities

[potent portal]

Darn long distance mind readers. It's like you've answered this a million times or something.

[frigid jackal]

I've been using the new one for a while with Windows 11 installed, when I install the old one in, what do I do with it?

the old one was like full of some old files I want to keep

[potent portal]

You can just pop it in the system, make sure the correct drive is set to boot in BIOS, boot up, and copy what you need. Then I'd wipe the drive so it doesn't cause confusion later with the bootloader during an update or something. M$ is notorious for breaking dual boot.

[frigid jackal]

there's no issues since it's different hardware?

[potent portal]

You'd still be booting the new OS

You can just copy the files you want off the old drive unless it's encrypted

[frigid jackal]

is there a video on copying the files or is it just something simple that I'll see when I get in there?

[potent portal]

It's as simple as opening file explorer and navigating to the files

[frigid jackal]

ohhhhh

so I'm booting the NEW ssd and copying the files from the OLD ssd onto the NEW one right?

[potent portal]

Yes

[frigid jackal]

and then I can format it or whatever to use it as secondary storage?

[potent portal]

Correct

[frigid jackal]

do I need to do anything with that M$ thing you mentioned? is what I'll be doing "dual boot"?

[potent portal]

It's technically dual booting since there's 2 bootloaders (temporarily)

It won't be there long enough to cause a problem most likely, as long as you wipe the drive properly

[frigid jackal]

worst case scenario what happens? Fresh install of windows?

[potent portal]

Worst case scenario you fail to boot and either fresh install or repair the bootloader

[frigid jackal]

thank you

[potent portal]

The "properly" part of wiping the drive is important too. I recommend using diskpart's clean command.

From admin command prompt:
diskpart
list disk
(Identify which one is the old drive by size, call it disk X)
select disk X
clean
convert gpt
create partition primary
format recommended
exit

[plucky timber]

That doesn't wipe it completely right?

Existing data isn't overwritten

[potent portal]

It only deletes the partition structure and GPT records

It doesn't zero out the data

[plucky timber]

I'd use DD to zero itbout

Wait

[potent portal]

Nah it'll be TRIMmed out

[plucky timber]

Does clean zero it?

[potent portal]

The data would be recoverable until the next TRIM command

[plucky timber]

I didn't see the clean part

That's very handy to know

[potent portal]

If a higher level of security were needed then yes you could zero out the data, or better yet write random bits

But this is their own drive

[frigid jackal]

alright

[plucky timber]

Oh they're probably gonna overwrite it anyways then

[frigid jackal]

put the boot priority to my new ssd

i just save adn exit bios now right?

[potent portal]

Specifically you want the Windows bootloader on the new SSD to be the priority

But it can usually figure it out if you set the drive itself

[plucky timber]

guys

Dumb idea

[frigid jackal]

Kingston is the new one

[plucky timber]

What would I need in theory to convert this into a working desktop

A battery?

[frigid jackal]

but whenever I go into advanced and then back to easy mode it switches the first image around and has the intel one first

[potent portal]

Then don't switch the mode, just hit F10 to save and exit when you swap it

[frigid jackal]

got it

😝😝

[potent portal]

Bare minimum? AC adapter and memory. Since it's a Dell they might have an intrusion switch that keeps it from booting with the case open, so you'd have to defeat that as well.

[plucky timber]

hmm

Budget nas?

[potent portal]

Nah you'd probably still spend more after the adapter and memory than you would on a generic raspberry pi

And the pi would be more flexible

[frigid jackal]

the old ssd would be D: right?

[potent portal]

Usually yes

[frigid jackal]

ok yeah makes sense lol

does that seem right?

[potent portal]

Yep

[frigid jackal]

Am I safe to do other things while it formats?

or should I hold off

[potent portal]

Yes go ahead

It should be fast since it's a SSD

[frigid jackal]

not sure if that means super fast but only 3% done in two minutes

maybe because it had a lot of stuff on it

[potent portal]

Hmm, I guess it neglected to include the "quick" command in the recommended format

Ah well, you can definitely still use it while it runs

[frigid jackal]

Just in case, since it's pretty late for me, what should I do once it's done formatting? restart? is it safe to use just as extra storage?

[potent portal]

Once it's done formatting you can restart and it should automatically assign it a drive letter to use it as spare space

If for some reason Winblows decides not to do that, it's easy to set the letter through disk management

[frigid jackal]

if I end up dying (falling asleep) before it finishes, is it safe? as in like letting the computer run without restarting it

[potent portal]

Perfectly fine

[little osprey]

I updated my drivers, i have an ethernet connection to a booster, my quest 2 is still not connecting to my PC.

I restarted all of my systems multiple times. I have no idea whats wrong

I'm convinced my internet just sucks. what could I be doing wrong?

[frigid jackal]

I remember I couldn't connect my bluetooth headphones because I didn't have those little antennas on the back of my pc

[little osprey]

im connected via ethernet

i have two other antennas plugged in though

two in a wifi card two in the motherboard, not sure why but theyre there

[frigid jackal]

I've done all i can do

🧘‍♂️ 🙏

[frigid jackal]

I'm assuming this isn't normal, any idea what's causing the speed to go from 800mb/s to 0mb/s?

could it just be because my storage is pretty full lol

[potent portal]

The drive probably overheated

Give it time, it'll come back

[cyan ravine]

Normal behaviour

[potent portal]

Copying from a faster SSD to a slower one can really stress out the controller on the slower one

[cyan ravine]

SSD's go through burst writes

[frigid jackal]

that's what I was doing exactly lol

[cyan ravine]

So they slow down, speed up

[frigid jackal]

ah

[cyan ravine]

All solid state is like this if it's not optane

[frigid jackal]

should I search up to see if there's any like drivers updates?

[cyan ravine]

Updates might make it slightly better if anything but you'd have to stop what you're doing

The fundamental way it works won't change

[potent portal]

It'll take you longer to fix than it would to just wait for the transfer to complete

[frigid jackal]

ah

I'm just moving some things to the old ssd like some games I might not play for a while

I don't mind waiting or anything

was just wondering if it was normal

🙏

also if y'all don't mind me asking
how did you get to know a lot about computers? experience? or maybe taking classes?

[jagged ember]

The mothership beams information directly into their brains

But generally experience and keeping up with reviews

[analog hearth]

A lot of YouTube

And then I went for a degree in Cybersecurity, which taught some computer science in the middle of it

(that's my story anyways)

[little osprey]

i still need help with this

[analog hearth]

Just get a super long USB 3 cable

[little osprey]

shouldn’t i get a cable designed for vr connection?

also what if i wanna use bodytrackers

[analog hearth]

Idk I thought you'd have a Quest 2 like everybody else

[little osprey]

i do

[analog hearth]

yeah just get a USB 3 cable

[little osprey]

alright

will it also charge my headset while I play?

[analog hearth]

and be absolutely sure that it's a USB 3 cable. Even better if your PC has a USB C that's USB 3.1 or 3.2. In that case, get a USB 3.1 or 3.2 cable

Yes

I believe so

[little osprey]

alright

lemme check my motherboard rq

[analog hearth]

If it doesn't charge, I believe it should slow its discharge rate

[little osprey]

yep USB C

[analog hearth]

What's your exact motherboard? I want to look it up and see what exactly it supports

Could just be a normal USB 3.0 connection

[little osprey]

GIGABYTE B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI

i think it’s just a normal 3.0 connection

[analog hearth]

I'm reading that it's USB 3.2 Gen 1. Go for that cable
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b650m-series_1102_e.pdf?

But what would be even better is if you have a USB C port at the front of your case. Idk what case you have but the internal connection on that motherboard is also USB 3.2 Gen 1. Would be great if the front would have a USB C port just for VR (doesn't make it faster. It would be more convenient than having a whole cable behind your PC, ya know?)

[analog hearth]

This is what I was looking at in that link btw

[little osprey]

oh yea i have one there

i’m still just worried about using body trackers. I’m gonna use slime trackers and i’m not sure if my bad bluetooth connection with VR is gonna make it any worse

[analog hearth]

What's your case? I'm gonna see what USB version it support

[little osprey]

Montech white case, i forgot to the name though

looks like this

[analog hearth]

I'm sure it would still work. I mean it's just the headset that has to connect to the PC, right? I've never messed with extra trackers on a Quest 2 lol

[little osprey]

right

[analog hearth]

Montech XR I believe

It doesn't say which version of USB on their product page but another page says it's USB 3.2 Gen 2. I'd just get a 3.2 Gen 1 cable if it's cheaper than a 3.2 Gen 2 cable. Try plugging it into the from of the case. Still slow? Try the back and see if it's quicker. If it's quicker, problem solved

[little osprey]

good?

16 bucks

[analog hearth]

Idk if 10 feet is good enough for you but yeah it otherwise looks good

[brittle spindle]

My m.2 stopped working. How do I know if it is the drive it self or the slot that has an issue?

[dusky hearth]

10' would definitely not be enough especially if your rear io isn't facing the playspace

[little osprey]

how long should i get it